Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote: On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room in the basement that they've been quite happy to reserve for even quite small groups in the past. We use the Green Man for beer after GLLUG meetings and it is very good. I'd recommend giving it a try. Jason Clifford -- UKFSN.ORG Finance Free Software while you surf the 'net http://www.ukfsn.org/ Sign up now
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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 09:05:53AM +0100, Jason Clifford wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote: On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room in the basement that they've been quite happy to reserve for even quite small groups in the past. We use the Green Man for beer after GLLUG meetings and it is very good. I'd recommend giving it a try. One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-( -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
Simon Wilcox wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Jasper McCrea wrote: Simon Wistow wrote: It is *really* important that you sign up though. You will not under any circumstances be let in if you've not signed up according to the office manager. Not that I've been to many tech meets, but this doesn't seem like a very good policy for a meeting place. Although the facility is good. It's not a meeting place, it's their office. They're perfectly entitled to put into place whatever security they feel like. Place where London.pm meets to discuss technical matters not a meeting place. Film at 11. As you mention, the venue is excellent and I would encourage everyone to be wholly positive about this lest they decide it's not worth the aggravation. Don't get me wrong, I think Yahoo! are entitled to put in place whatever policies they want. However, I don't think it's in anyone's interest to be wholly positive about a policy that may at some stage prohibit someone from going to a meeting that they might like to or everyone else might like them to. Someone fretting on a mailing list is hardly going to push the Yahoo! office manager over the edge in a mad rampage and ban London.pm, is it? Perhaps you think I shouldn't mention it just because I'm not in a position to offer anything better? Jasper
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snip As you mention, the venue is excellent and I would encourage everyone to be wholly positive about this lest they decide it's not worth the aggravation. Don't get me wrong, I think Yahoo! are entitled to put in place whatever policies they want. you think signing in is bad? you try typing from behind a gas mask. However, I don't think it's in anyone's interest to be wholly positive about a policy that may at some stage prohibit someone from going to a meeting that they might like to or everyone else might like them to. Someone fretting on a mailing list is hardly going to push the Yahoo! office manager over the edge in a mad rampage and ban London.pm, is it? definitely not - it's a pain in the ass, but as mentioned many times, unfortunately due to the late notice i figure there wasn't time to rearrange, i'm sure mark will be looking elsewhere for next time. a Perhaps you think I shouldn't mention it just because I'm not in a position to offer anything better? Jasper
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Jasper McCrea wrote: Simon Wilcox wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Jasper McCrea wrote: Not that I've been to many tech meets, but this doesn't seem like a very good policy for a meeting place. Although the facility is good. It's not a meeting place, it's their office. They're perfectly entitled to put into place whatever security they feel like. Place where London.pm meets to discuss technical matters not a meeting place. Film at 11. But not necessarily clear from your previous email. I knew what you meant, as did most people on this list but taken out of context it easily reads as a critism of our hosts in general. As you mention, the venue is excellent and I would encourage everyone to be wholly positive about this lest they decide it's not worth the aggravation. Don't get me wrong, I think Yahoo! are entitled to put in place whatever policies they want. However, I don't think it's in anyone's interest to be wholly positive about a policy that may at some stage prohibit someone from going to a meeting that they might like to or everyone else might like them to. It's in everyones interest to make sure that we continue to enjoy the hospitality of Yahoo! as it's by far the most hospitable venue we have ever been lucky enough to be offered. Two weeks notice is plenty of time to sign up and since you can sign up until lunchtime on the day I don't see this really being a restriction. Someone fretting on a mailing list is hardly going to push the Yahoo! office manager over the edge in a mad rampage and ban London.pm, is it? Mad rampage, unlikely. Overloaded with work and an opportunity to remove a part of it because these people seem ungrateful, possibly. Perhaps you think I shouldn't mention it just because I'm not in a position to offer anything better? Precisely, put up or shut up :) Simon.
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:40:01AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ I think Jasper wrote: ] Don't get me wrong, I think Yahoo! are entitled to put in place whatever policies they want. you think signing in is bad? you try typing from behind a gas mask. :-) However, I don't think it's in anyone's interest to be wholly positive about a policy that may at some stage prohibit someone from going to a meeting that they might like to or everyone else might like them to. [...] definitely not - it's a pain in the ass, but as mentioned many times, unfortunately due to the late notice i figure there wasn't time to rearrange, i'm sure mark will be looking elsewhere for next time. I don't think the above concern is likely to be valid, and fwiw, I don't think this is too much of a pain, given that they've been extremely good to us, even if the security guards last time didn't know. It's also a venue that isn't too hard to get to. I'm all for staying with Yahoo! even in light of this policy. -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
Lusercop wrote: One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-( ..and that is a problem why? When people ask you how the meeting went, you can honestly, with pride and a smile on your face, reply: We drank the bar dry! You wouldn't have much of a problem getting full attendances to future meets with that sort of testimonial! *grin* Steve ==
Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:45:12AM +0100, Adam C Auden wrote: On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Lusercop wrote: One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-( Ah, but were they given fair warning of the thirst of bofhs? If so, then very well done to the attendees in question. :) It wasn't a particularly big meet, for once. Oh, and there's the minor annoyance of the circle/hc/metropolitan lines and the amazing slowness through central london Hooray for the Central Line (now it's working again)!!! -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:45:12AM +0100, Adam C Auden wrote: On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Lusercop wrote: One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-( Ah, but were they given fair warning of the thirst of bofhs? If so, then very well done to the attendees in question. :) There's a role-playing game group that meets there every Monday night. In spite of this, they still run out of beer on a Monday once every few weeks. R
Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:50:16AM +0100, Lusercop wrote: It wasn't a particularly big meet, for once. Oh, and there's the minor annoyance of the circle/hc/metropolitan lines and the amazing slowness through central london Hooray for the Central Line (now it's working again)!!! -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002 Please stop drinking the LUser kool aid. It is not working. It has roughly half service to 60% of the stations. $ perl -le 'print 0.6 * 0.6' 0.36 Nicholas Clark
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
On Friday 04 April 2003 11:30, Jasper McCrea wrote: Simon Wilcox wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Jasper McCrea wrote: Simon Wistow wrote: It is *really* important that you sign up though. You will not under any circumstances be let in if you've not signed up according to the office manager. I always find this sort of thing rather amusing ... I've worked at more than one place that has had similar policies ... none of them are worth the electrons they are written with. 1) someone signs up ... as A. N. Other .. there's no way of knowing if they really are A. N. Other or not. Even if they are who they say they are, there's no way of knowing if they are going to steal all the underpants. 2) Assuming you tighten it further to checking with whoever is organising it that they recognise the names on the list, that fails still because for a meeting like this, its quite possible a newcomers name would not be recognised, and would be let in anyway. 3) even if you do recognise the name, how do you know its not someone with a longstanding grudge whose signed up just to get into the building and steal your underpants? all it saves you from is random people walking in off the street, and there are simpler ways to do that ... still, the places I;ve seen it done before, it kept the office manager busy filling out little badges, and while they where doing that, they weren't fiddling with somehting else, so I guess some good came out of it. Perhaps someone should register as A. Pants-Stealer and see if a badge is made up for them ;) (and no, I won't ) Still, good of Yahoo! to provide the facility, don't look a gift horse in the mouth I say. -- Robin Szemeti
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:47:38AM +0100, Lusercop wrote:
[various people talking, nusked]
I don't think the above concern is likely to be valid, and fwiw, I don't
think this is too much of a pain, given that they've been extremely good
to us, even if the security guards last time didn't know. It's also a venue
that isn't too hard to get to. I'm all for staying with Yahoo! even in light
of this policy.
Why has nobody pointed out that it's just a BOX TO ENTER YOUR NAME? It took me
more time just now to cough! Christ, if people are going to bitch and moan about
something, let it be something that involves more than 0.8 seconds' typing
something that you don't even have to bloody remember. If it's not that, then
what possible reason can there be for it to be 'a pain'? The almighty effort
of following the URL to the form?
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 12:47:55PM +0100, Earle Martin wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:47:38AM +0100, Lusercop wrote: [various people talking, nusked] I don't think the above concern is likely to be valid, and fwiw, I don't think this is too much of a pain, given that they've been extremely good to us, even if the security guards last time didn't know. It's also a venue that isn't too hard to get to. I'm all for staying with Yahoo! even in light of this policy. Why has nobody pointed out that it's just a BOX TO ENTER YOUR NAME? It took me more time just now to cough! Christ, if people are going to bitch and moan about something, let it be something that involves more than 0.8 seconds' typing something that you don't even have to bloody remember. If it's not that, then what possible reason can there be for it to be 'a pain'? The almighty effort of following the URL to the form? You're not stating the important point. We previously had a box to enter our name. It was the sign in sheet on the security guard's desk at the Yahoo! building. You didn't have to do it in advance, which means that anyone who decided to come to the tech meeting on spec could do so. Now we have to be organised. Fortunately not very organised - lunchtime same day is no hardship. But it does require some organisational discipline. However, I think it's worthwhile considering that Yahoo! is an excellent venue. (And even gave us beer). Nicholas Clark
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Robin Szemeti wrote: snip 1) someone signs up ... as A. N. Other .. there's no way of knowing if they really are A. N. Other or not. Even if they are who they say they are, there's no way of knowing if they are going to steal all the underpants. snip Building security at my last office in New York apparently didn't find it odd that a bike messenger was walking off with our fax machine (*that* led to a friendly memo from the office manager I can tell you)... But when *I* (who saw building security each and every day of the week for well over five years) was taking home a three year-old computer legally bought from my company (and usefully repurposed as a home multimedia Linux system) I needed something like two countersigned letters from our COO and some bloody ID. jon who has already signed up but figures that if he can get some Yahoo! branded underpants it may all be worth it -- jon reades fulcrum analytics t: 0870.366.9338 m: 0797.698.7392 f: 0870.888.8880 lower ground floor 2 sheraton street london w1f 8bh
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 12:56:44PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
You're not stating the important point.
...anyone who decided to come to the tech meeting on spec could do so.
Now we have to be organised. Fortunately not very organised - lunchtime
same day is no hardship. But it does require some organisational discipline.
But not much. And hardly enough to moan about. Which is my point.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
Nicholas Clark sent the following bits through the ether: YAPC::Europe::UK::London::Victoria::Yahoo::Basement::2003::04::14::Evening Leon Brocard sent the following bits back: At the DPW I got a special customised orange badge. Will this be the case at the tech meet? And what about special badges for speakers? Do we get special badges? Oh please say that we do... :-) A
Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
At 11:23 04/04/03, you wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 09:05:53AM +0100, Jason Clifford wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote: On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room in the basement that they've been quite happy to reserve for even quite small groups in the past. We use the Green Man for beer after GLLUG meetings and it is very good. I'd recommend giving it a try. One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-( The discussions London.pm has about pub venues mirrors London Science Fiction fandom's problems too. We recently vacated the Silver Cross pub on Whitehall because of double bookings, rude staff, lack of beer due to pipes being cut, and running out of beer. We've recently moved to the Barley Mow near Barbican, and yesterday. they ran out of beer. Alex McLintock Available for java/perl/C++/web development in London, UK or nearby. Apache FOP, Cocoon, Turbine, Struts,XSL:FO, XML, Tomcat, JSP http://www.OWAL.co.uk/
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
Earle Martin sent the following bits through the ether: Why has nobody pointed out that it's just a BOX TO ENTER YOUR NAME? I don't know about you, but I really like just being able to turn up at conferences and meetings. It's a barrier to entry. I didn't go to a BSD meet a while ago because I hadn't signed up to it and it was too late to sign up. That sucks. Leon ps I love Yahoo! -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... DOC files? We don't need NO STINKIN' DOC FILES!
Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 02:20:25PM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: We've recently moved to the Barley Mow near Barbican, and yesterday. they ran out of beer. Bearing in mind that we have roughly doubled the number of people turning up, each of the months we've gone there, as people switch over. Roger
Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
On 04/04/2003 at 09:05 +0100, Jason Clifford wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote: On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room We use the Green Man for beer after GLLUG meetings and it is very good. I'd recommend giving it a try. UKBloggers met there in February, so evidently it's doing something right for the 'large groups of people thing'. (Not that I was there, but I didn't see any complaints about it in the subsequent days.) On the other hand, maybe Messrs Wistow and Batistoni will regard it as tainted. -- :: paul :: compiles with canadian cs1471 protocol
Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Paul Mison wrote: UKBloggers met there in February, so evidently it's doing something right for the 'large groups of people thing'. (Not that I was there, but I didn't see any complaints about it in the subsequent days.) On occassion when GLLUG has met there we've seen other fairly large groups of people too. On one occassion we shared the downstairs with a Pratchett fan meeting (we really should have tried a few tortoise sacrifices to wind them up ;) ) Jason Clifford -- UKFSN.ORG Finance Free Software while you surf the 'net http://www.ukfsn.org/ Sign up now
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 02:36:03PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
I don't know about you, but I really like just being able to turn up
at conferences and meetings. It's a barrier to entry. I didn't go to a
BSD meet a while ago because I hadn't signed up to it and it was too
late to sign up. That sucks.
Okay. I just tend to sign up for things in advance if that's a requirement.
I guess it depends on when the deadline for signing up is.
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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room
At 15:37 GMT 04.04.03, Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : UKBloggers met there in February, so evidently it's doing something : right for the 'large groups of people thing'. (Not that I was there, : but I didn't see any complaints about it in the subsequent days.) It was reasonable for 50 of us, though they didn't open the downstairs bar so we had to go up and down the stairs alot :| --cal
