Re: Report on the Glasshouse Stores
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 12:30:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > One idea might be to do a very slow ``pub crawl'' along the river, > > during the summer months that way everybody is happy at least one of > > While this would have some advantages, I think it might reflect > over-optimism about the ability of people to be in the right place > at the right time under these changing conditions. One way to offset that is to have biweekly meetings, so even if one were to miss 50% of the meetings it would still provide the same or better attendance :) I like the idea of the pub crawl; I think once the expectation of variety is set people will know to check and read ANNOUNCE. It's the occasional changes that are confusing since no-one expects... P -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ "If pixies dance by midnight in sherbet clouds, then stones would sing and pebbles would dance." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > One idea might be to do a very slow ``pub crawl'' along the river, > during the summer months that way everybody is happy at least one of > the months. The Anchor fans get to mourn what has become of their once > beloved pub (I still havent been), the youngs fans get to enjoy their > double chocolate stout, and so on. While this would have some advantages, I think it might reflect over-optimism about the ability of people to be in the right place at the right time under these changing conditions. aef
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Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Parallel to this little tour the tireless efforts of our > ``researchers'' can continue, looking for the perfect pub for when the > the long crazy days of summer draw to a close. There's a nice riverside pub down Hammersmith way worth checking out apparently... ;-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire http://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Starhttp://www.thehighwaystar.com Interim Technical Director, Web Architecture Consultant for hire
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* Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > It wasn't perfect by any means, though personally I prefer > it to the CoY. As has been mentioned it'd be nice to have > a place with out side for the summer months. > Out of interest what were the spirits like? One small downside to the CoY is that it uses cheapo house brand spirits, not so bad for GnT but not so good for a wee dram of scotch. However in the big picture of things this is all fairly minor. One idea might be to do a very slow ``pub crawl'' along the river, during the summer months that way everybody is happy at least one of the months. The Anchor fans get to mourn what has become of their once beloved pub (I still havent been), the youngs fans get to enjoy their double chocolate stout, and so on. Naturally each month someone will be unhappy, perhaps the current pub du mois will only provide chips with mayonaise as opposed to chips with salsa, but at least they can be commiserated with the fact that it will be a different pub next month. Parallel to this little tour the tireless efforts of our ``researchers'' can continue, looking for the perfect pub for when the the long crazy days of summer draw to a close. Greg p.s. Month is probably the opposite gender of day and Leon can now laugh at my incompetence. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:55:20PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:45:06PM +0100, Natalie S. Ford said: > > Just a pity the food is so awful - i can always eat in transit to the pub > > though... > > And the beer. > > Disregarding handpulled or not was it a deliberate move to use another > Sam Smith's pub or just a coinckydinks? coinckydinks, I suggested it because: - it was cheap (1.60 a pint), cheaper than CoY - central London - did food that was more than just chips and dips. I'd had the chicken and chips there which was fine so didn't know that the rest of the food was a bit naff, though we didn't try the snacky foods and 'traditional' pub grub. - had a big enough cellar, that didn't echo when people talked. I'm not a beer expert, in fact didn't even notice that it wasn't hand pulled (I appologies to the beer gurus out there). It wasn't perfect by any means, though personally I prefer it to the CoY. As has been mentioned it'd be nice to have a place with out side for the summer months. Leo
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:40:15AM +0100, Greg McCarroll >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > > > > Also something about a lack of girly drinks. What would you consider a > > > > girly drink? > > > > > > > > > "pint for the fella, white wine or fruit-based drink for the lady" > > > > > > > I dispute this! there is nothing wrong with white wine for the fella. > > I've seen Al Murray confiscate wine (and halves of beer) from men in the > audience. > if he went for my wine, there would be trouble -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:40:15AM +0100, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote: > > > > > > Also something about a lack of girly drinks. What would you consider a > > > girly drink? > > > > > > "pint for the fella, white wine or fruit-based drink for the lady" > > > > I dispute this! there is nothing wrong with white wine for the fella. I've seen Al Murray confiscate wine (and halves of beer) from men in the audience. Dave... -- Shoot some of those missiles, think of us as fatherless scum It won't be forgotten 'cause we'll never say anything nice again Will we? Drugs are just bad m'kay
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On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 11:17:51AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > Does SMIRNOFF ICE^(TM) have vodka? > NO. SMIRNOFF ICE^(TM) was created as a beer alternative; brewing it > using a malt base enabled us to create a recipe that could be sold and > consumed just like a beer here in the United States. There are similar "ciders" in Sweden brewed on malt so they can be sold in normal shops just like beer[0]. No idea what they taste like. [0] Beer up to 3.5% alcohol can be sold in normal shops here in Sweden, all other alcoholic drinks are only sold in the government monopoly shops "Systembolaget". -- Niklas Nordebo -><- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -><- +447966251290 i want to be different just like you
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on 23/5/02 11:19 am, Mark Fowler wrote: > Cherry flavoured beer! What will they ever *cough* De Hems *cough* think > of next. Unfortunately it won't be anywhere near as nice as a kriek. It'll be like ordering a lager and lime, but more synthetic. c. -- Die von Ihnen angeforderte Seite konnte leider nicht gefunden werden.
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On Thu, 23 May 2002, Chris Heathcote wrote:
> The next big bottle trend is going to be fruity beer... I think it's
> Grolsch that's introducing beer with 4 different fruit flavours added.
Cherry flavoured beer! What will they ever *cough* De Hems *cough* think
of next.
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On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 11:10:44AM +0100, Chris Heathcote said: > Smirnoff Ice in America contains no vodka. Smirnoff Ice is a weird drink ... What is SMIRNOFF ICE^(TM)? SMIRNOFF ICE^(TM) is a beer alternative brewed using a malt base that gives ICE a refreshing citrus flavored taste. Does SMIRNOFF ICE^(TM) have vodka? NO. SMIRNOFF ICE^(TM) was created as a beer alternative; brewing it using a malt base enabled us to create a recipe that could be sold and consumed just like a beer here in the United States. BUT. SMIRNOFF ICE^(TM) does contain Vodka in many foreign countries including Canada, Brazil, England, Ireland and South Africa. from http://www.smirnoffice.com/faq/ -- : it's not the heat, it's the humanity
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on 23/5/02 10:57 am, Mark Fowler wrote: > Smirnoff Ice isn't an alcopop. It's beer (just not the type you have > to pull on handles to pour.) Smirnoff Ice in America contains no vodka. 30,000 bottles of Bacardi Breezer are sold in the UK every hour. The next big bottle trend is going to be fruity beer... I think it's Grolsch that's introducing beer with 4 different fruit flavours added. c. -- Die von Ihnen angeforderte Seite konnte leider nicht gefunden werden.
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On Thu, 23 May 2002, the hatter wrote:
> I was meaning more of the smirnoff ice variety, no alcopops at all.
Smirnoff Ice isn't an alcopop. It's beer (just not the type you have
to pull on handles to pour.)
> Not even any red bull.
ENOTVR!
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote: > > > > Also something about a lack of girly drinks. What would you consider a > > girly drink? > > > "pint for the fella, white wine or fruit-based drink for the lady" > > I dispute this! there is nothing wrong with white wine for the fella. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 23 May 2002, Natalie S. Ford wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > Also something about a lack of girly drinks. What would you consider a > > girly drink? > > Baileys? Southern Comfort? From what I remember, the CoY did not do > *real* southern comfort - only an inferior clone... I was meaning more of the smirnoff ice variety, no alcopops at all. Not even any red bull. But now you mention it, most of the spirits they have are of the non-branded types. the hatter
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Also something about a lack of girly drinks. What would you consider a > girly drink? "pint for the fella, white wine or fruit-based drink for the lady" hth, Dave... -- Don't dream it... be it
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > Also something about a lack of girly drinks. What would you consider a > girly drink? Baileys? Southern Comfort? From what I remember, the CoY did not do *real* southern comfort - only an inferior clone... -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:45:14PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:08:06PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: > > On Wed 22 May 2002, Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well that'll be a no from me then. > > Cool, so you'll come to a meet if we find somewhere with good beer? :) > I bet he'll only admit to liking the beer from Harvey's pubs within 15 miles > of Lewes. :-) Mmmm ... Harveys ... -- David Cantrell|Reprobate|http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Educating this luser would be something to frustrate even the unflappable Yoda and make him jam a lightsaber up his arse while screaming "praise evil, the Dark Side is your friend!". -- Derek Balling, in the Monastery
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:08:06PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: > On Wed 22 May 2002, Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well that'll be a no from me then. > > Cool, so you'll come to a meet if we find somewhere with good beer? :) I bet he'll only admit to liking the beer from Harvey's pubs within 15 miles of Lewes. :-) Nicholas Clark -- Even better than the real thing:http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > On Wed, 22 May 2002, Kate L Pugh wrote: > > Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. > Double boo. Did I mention there's a beer festival happening in Cambridge > *right now*? Did I mention that I'll probably be there along with some of the regulars from $newsgroup? -- Grand Inquisitor Reverend David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation. -- Johnny Hart
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Kate L Pugh wrote: > Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. Double boo. Did I mention there's a beer festival happening in Cambridge *right now*? > Alas, the food was not universally considered good. Food is for wimps ;-) > http://husk.org/pics/?browse=glasshouse_stores_2002-05-21 http://husk.org/pics/index.cgi?view=glasshouse_stores_2002-05-21/ leon_is_very_rude.jpg Put it away! Also something about a lack of girly drinks. What would you consider a girly drink? L. Sic Transit Van
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Kate L Pugh wrote: >> Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. On Wed 22 May 2002, Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well that'll be a no from me then. Cool, so you'll come to a meet if we find somewhere with good beer? :) Kake
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Kate L Pugh wrote: > > Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. > Well that'll be a no from me then. /J\
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On Wed 22 May 2002, Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Disregarding handpulled or not was it a deliberate move to use another > Sam Smith's pub or just a coinckydinks? Dunno; it was Leo's suggestion. TBH I just like trying out new pubs, so being a pub minion is a good excuse. I'm happy to scout out pretty much any pub that anyone suggests, unless it's obviously dire. Maybe we should deprioritise investigating Sam Smith's pubs from now on, though. > I don't know about any body else but Sam Smith's make the worst tasting > beer I've ever tasted. Their cidah's nicer than Strongbow, though. (Tangent: for all its faults (eg suit overload, no character, me being completely fed up of it), the PO does have the advantage of doing Weston's.) > p.s this is not in anyway denigrating the sterling efforts of the Pub > Czar(s). I'm not a Czar; I'm a minion. Czars have to make decisions, ugh. I have a new suggestion. The Ivy House on the corner of Southampton Row and Cotton Street, just a minute from Holborn tube, has a big sign on the outside saying "free function room available". Anyone up for a trip there some time next week? I'm free except Wednesday and Friday. http://www.portal.e-street.net/com/uk/lon/BusinessPage.ly?businessID=10056346 http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=530503&Y=181602&A=Y&Z=1 Kake
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:55:20PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > > I don't know about any body else but Sam Smith's make the worst tasting > beer I've ever tasted. I'm with you on that, not that I come to many of the meets. Planning on getting to the next one though. -- dave thorn | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:45:06PM +0100, Natalie S. Ford said: > Just a pity the food is so awful - i can always eat in transit to the pub > though... And the beer. Disregarding handpulled or not was it a deliberate move to use another Sam Smith's pub or just a coinckydinks? I don't know about any body else but Sam Smith's make the worst tasting beer I've ever tasted. If everyone else feels different I'll shut up. Simon p.s this is not in anyway denigrating the sterling efforts of the Pub Czar(s). -- : it's not the heat, it's the humanity
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 02:26:15PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 12:43:33PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: > > Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. > That makes it a non-pub, and I for one will not be going. ...and I bet he won't be the only one... -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 12:43:33PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: > As for disabled access, the staircase is wide and has a double handrail, > and there are both men's and women's toilets on the same level as the > cellar bar. Kewl. ;-) > What did I forget? Nothing. ;-) Just a pity the food is so awful - i can always eat in transit to the pub though... -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
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From: "Mark Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > No Credit Cards are taken downstairs, which isn't a problem as far as the > > They did this whole carrying cards upstrairs thinig for some of us (though > not blech and Kake, they obviously look like criminals.) Not sure if > they'd do it for the mass of people we ar at a meeting. Forgive my paranoia, but I wouldn't let my card out of my sight in such a place - the opportunity for someone to surreptitiously skim it is too great - sure, most people aren't criminals - but the inconvenience of being caught out even once would be a major hassle. One of the things I've noticed in recent months, using a Cahoot card, is that in a lot of places they have to manually enter the number, and, in others, use a chipreader (built in to their terminal) rather than a swipereader - presumably to make it impossible to use any old card with skimmed details on the magnetic strip. Andrew.
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 12:43:33PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: > Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. That makes it a non-pub, and I for one will not be going. -- Lord Protector David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david " We must get users past their misunderstandings of uptime. A reboot doesn't mean that anything broke, there is no hardware or software corrective action taken, so there wasn't any real downtime. " -- overheard in an MS strategy meeting
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Kate L Pugh wrote: > Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. And no girlie drinks, inconvenient both for the girlies, and for those of us who don't qualify but like them anyway. > ASCII plan time. [snip] You are in a twisty maze of booths and little rooms, all different. Though after having seen several oxford pubs on the weekend, that seems slightly less weird to me now. > Centralness: a minute's walk from Piccadilly Circus tube. Regretably, as it'd be dead handy for me to get to. Wonder what we'd need to do to get a large area of TGIs instead. Beer might not be to everyones taste, but the cocktails are great. the hatter
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> What did I forget?
No Credit Cards are taken downstairs, which isn't a problem as far as the
kitty is concerned, but could be annoying for those wanting to buy their
own drinks/have food.
They did this whole carrying cards upstrairs thinig for some of us (though
not blech and Kake, they obviously look like criminals.) Not sure if
they'd do it for the mass of people we ar at a meeting.
Later.
Mark.
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Report on the Glasshouse Stores
Some of us (Leo, me, blech, Mark, Leon, muttley, neko, hatter, Jon, Jeannie, James from perlmonks, um, think that was it apart from the two random girls that hatter brought) went to the Glasshouse Stores last night, as mooted in http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20020429/019965.html Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. Food: Quite a wide choice, including four main-course veggie options (veggie chilli; yorkshire pudding with chickpeas, spinach and mushrooms; veggie sausages and mash; and "Thai vegetable schnitzel", whatever that is). These were all about GBP6; there were also specials for about a quid cheaper. Alas, the food was not universally considered good. The veggie chilli wasn't bad at all, but the garlic bread it came with was really odd and vinegary. blech had pie, which he thought was fine IIRC. Leon and Leo didn't like their dinners. Leo's was really rather stingy, a small pile of potato and sausage slices and the rest of the plate filled up with sweetcorn and grey canned peas. But better than the CoY, I think, in general. The cellar bar is bookable in whole or in part, given a deposit of GBP50. The deposit is returned "if you spent enough"; we have to ask the manager what "enough" is, apparently. The bartender didn't think we'd get the whole bar for only 50-60 people (although she's not seen how much we can drink en masse), but we would get "the big bit", which she thought would seat 45, but I think would seat more like 35--40. If we booked only half of the bar, the other half would be open to the public, so we could overspill if we wanted to. Even if we did get the whole bar, we would have to split up a little. ASCII plan time. | | | |toilets| | | |large seating area | | |with small tables | | |and small armchairs| |---|an an ickle sofa or two| |stairs | | | | | |---|-service- | || | || | || | | BAR | | || | || | || | |-service- |-- | | | seatingwhere | | we | |area|| sat | || stairs || |||| --- Something like that, anyway. Not necessarily to scale. Photos: http://husk.org/pics/?browse=glasshouse_stores_2002-05-21 As for disabled access, the staircase is wide and has a double handrail, and there are both men's and women's toilets on the same level as the cellar bar. Centralness: a minute's walk from Piccadilly Circus tube. What did I forget? Kake
