[Mac-access]: iTunes ripping CDs help

2015-04-13 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I've only just noticed that, whereas most things in my iTunes library
have a show in finder option, things I've ripped from CD don't.  So
these CDs are definitely in my library but I don't know where the
actual files are.  I want to be able to get at those ripped files and
play them on other devices.  Is there any way of getting at them?  Or
is that just the way it works, does iTunes hide them away somewhere
and we can't get at them?

Thanks,
Catherine
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[Mac-access]: ITunes U help

2015-02-10 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I've recently started using iTunes U on my Mac and am finding that,
after I delete materials which have been downloaded, iTunes keeps
going and downloading them again.  I assume this isn't meant to
happen?  Does anyone know why this might be happening?  Also is there
any way of it not telling me which materials are available but just
the ones which I've downloaded?

I suppose I've got used to how Downcast treats podcasts and I like the
fact that I can view what I've downloaded and then when I want to,
look at what else is in the feed.  iTunes U seems to automatically
just show what's available and I'm thinking this is going to get more
and more tedious the longer I use it because I'll have to move past
all the stuff I've already heard in the materials list before figuring
out whether there's anything new.

Catherine

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Re: [Mac-access]: YoruFukurou help

2015-02-09 Thread Catherine Turner
Cmd Option ' did it, thanks.  It's possible I misheard the podcast.

Out of interest how did you or anyone discover this keyboard shortcut?
 Since it doesn't seem to be in the menus anywhere…?

Catherine
On 2/7/15, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah get to the drawer with cmd option apostrophe  then hot the menu and
 follow options, then follow. I don't recall saying cmd d in the podcast. I
 do recall, or at least I hope I said command apostrophe.
 On Feb 6, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I don't think I'm getting to the drawer though it's hard to know for
 sure since I'm not totally sure what's in the drawer or what VO should
 say when I'm there.  I want to find a user and start following them
 and I got the impression from listening to the podcast that this is
 done with the drawer.

 I've tried pressing command d several times and each time pressing VO
 Shift Home and then VO left but this just gets me to a piece of text
 saying timeline.

 Is there another way of going about following someone?  I did command
 u to search for a user and found them but then how can I follow them?

 Thanks,
 Catherine

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Re: [Mac-access]: YoruFukurou help

2015-02-06 Thread Catherine Turner
When I'm in the timeline table I can't get into the context menu.
Don't know if this depends what view you have it set to or something.

I'm also wondering if/how you can set it to only show tweets within a
certain time frame or from certain users.

Catherine

On 2/5/15, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am a bit of a novice myself but have found the app pretty
 straightforward for basic usage.

 What I normally do with any app is to explore it it and go through all
 the menu options, noting any short cut keys that VO announces. Also
 whilst in the Twitter table pressing shift VO M to bring up the context
 menu also reveals shortcut options normally.

 I am a very basic user though.

 David Griffith

 On 05/02/2015 09:13, Catherine Turner wrote:
 Hi,

 I have YoruFukurou but haven't used it much yet.  I'd like to find
 some kind of overview/guide on using it with VO, or just in general,
 but haven't found one so far.  I went to the help but this took me to
 the home page with links to download the app and not really help.

 Does anyone know of any demonstrations/guides/podcasts about it?  In
 particular at the moment I'm wondering what the different views of the
 timeline are and how they're best used.  Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Catherine


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Re: [Mac-access]: YoruFukurou help

2015-02-06 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I don't think I'm getting to the drawer though it's hard to know for
sure since I'm not totally sure what's in the drawer or what VO should
say when I'm there.  I want to find a user and start following them
and I got the impression from listening to the podcast that this is
done with the drawer.

I've tried pressing command d several times and each time pressing VO
Shift Home and then VO left but this just gets me to a piece of text
saying timeline.

Is there another way of going about following someone?  I did command
u to search for a user and found them but then how can I follow them?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 2/6/15, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Catherine -
 Command D toggles the drawer and not Command Option Comma.

 You may be able to quickly get to the drawer by insuring you are not
 interacting with the timeline table and then, with the drawer toggled to
 show, press VO Shift Home and then VO Left Arrow one time.


 On Feb 6, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Is there any way of getting to the drawer apart from pressing command
 option comma, this isn't working?  I'm also not sure whether the
 drawer is showing since I toggle it from the view menu but not sure
 what status it's on.

 Catherine

 On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I am also not getting sound notifications although enable sound effect
 is checked in notification preferences.

 On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Another thing I'm wondering is whether it gets the stuff which goes on
 while the app isn't open.  I would expect it to but, for example,
 yesterday someone retweeted something of mine and yorofukurou doesn't
 seem to have it because according to it the latest mention of me was
 from November.  Yet right at the bottom of the table it has some
 really old tweets which are before I even installed yorofukurou .
 Confusing…

 Catherine

 On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 When I'm in the timeline table I can't get into the context menu.
 Don't know if this depends what view you have it set to or something.

 I'm also wondering if/how you can set it to only show tweets within a
 certain time frame or from certain users.

 Catherine

 On 2/5/15, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am a bit of a novice myself but have found the app pretty
 straightforward for basic usage.

 What I normally do with any app is to explore it it and go through all
 the menu options, noting any short cut keys that VO announces. Also
 whilst in the Twitter table pressing shift VO M to bring up the context
 menu also reveals shortcut options normally.

 I am a very basic user though.

 David Griffith

 On 05/02/2015 09:13, Catherine Turner wrote:
 Hi,

 I have YoruFukurou but haven't used it much yet.  I'd like to find
 some kind of overview/guide on using it with VO, or just in general,
 but haven't found one so far.  I went to the help but this took me to
 the home page with links to download the app and not really help.

 Does anyone know of any demonstrations/guides/podcasts about it?  In
 particular at the moment I'm wondering what the different views of the
 timeline are and how they're best used.  Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Catherine


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Re: [Mac-access]: YoruFukurou help

2015-02-06 Thread Catherine Turner
Appreciate the podcast Sarah, thanks.  Just not sure if mine is
working properly or whether I need to do something I'm not doing.

Catherine

On 2/5/15, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Search for yorufukurou at http://tffppodcast.com/listen
 http://tffppodcast.com/listen  The guide is from 2011 but about 90 percent
   of it will still apply.

 Take care.
 On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:13 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have YoruFukurou but haven't used it much yet.  I'd like to find
 some kind of overview/guide on using it with VO, or just in general,
 but haven't found one so far.  I went to the help but this took me to
 the home page with links to download the app and not really help.

 Does anyone know of any demonstrations/guides/podcasts about it?  In
 particular at the moment I'm wondering what the different views of the
 timeline are and how they're best used.  Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Catherine

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Re: [Mac-access]: YoruFukurou help

2015-02-06 Thread Catherine Turner
I am also not getting sound notifications although enable sound effect
is checked in notification preferences.

On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Another thing I'm wondering is whether it gets the stuff which goes on
 while the app isn't open.  I would expect it to but, for example,
 yesterday someone retweeted something of mine and yorofukurou doesn't
 seem to have it because according to it the latest mention of me was
 from November.  Yet right at the bottom of the table it has some
 really old tweets which are before I even installed yorofukurou .
 Confusing…

 Catherine

 On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 When I'm in the timeline table I can't get into the context menu.
 Don't know if this depends what view you have it set to or something.

 I'm also wondering if/how you can set it to only show tweets within a
 certain time frame or from certain users.

 Catherine

 On 2/5/15, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am a bit of a novice myself but have found the app pretty
 straightforward for basic usage.

 What I normally do with any app is to explore it it and go through all
 the menu options, noting any short cut keys that VO announces. Also
 whilst in the Twitter table pressing shift VO M to bring up the context
 menu also reveals shortcut options normally.

 I am a very basic user though.

 David Griffith

 On 05/02/2015 09:13, Catherine Turner wrote:
 Hi,

 I have YoruFukurou but haven't used it much yet.  I'd like to find
 some kind of overview/guide on using it with VO, or just in general,
 but haven't found one so far.  I went to the help but this took me to
 the home page with links to download the app and not really help.

 Does anyone know of any demonstrations/guides/podcasts about it?  In
 particular at the moment I'm wondering what the different views of the
 timeline are and how they're best used.  Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Catherine


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Re: [Mac-access]: YoruFukurou help

2015-02-06 Thread Catherine Turner
Is there any way of getting to the drawer apart from pressing command
option comma, this isn't working?  I'm also not sure whether the
drawer is showing since I toggle it from the view menu but not sure
what status it's on.

Catherine

On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I am also not getting sound notifications although enable sound effect
 is checked in notification preferences.

 On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Another thing I'm wondering is whether it gets the stuff which goes on
 while the app isn't open.  I would expect it to but, for example,
 yesterday someone retweeted something of mine and yorofukurou doesn't
 seem to have it because according to it the latest mention of me was
 from November.  Yet right at the bottom of the table it has some
 really old tweets which are before I even installed yorofukurou .
 Confusing…

 Catherine

 On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 When I'm in the timeline table I can't get into the context menu.
 Don't know if this depends what view you have it set to or something.

 I'm also wondering if/how you can set it to only show tweets within a
 certain time frame or from certain users.

 Catherine

 On 2/5/15, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am a bit of a novice myself but have found the app pretty
 straightforward for basic usage.

 What I normally do with any app is to explore it it and go through all
 the menu options, noting any short cut keys that VO announces. Also
 whilst in the Twitter table pressing shift VO M to bring up the context
 menu also reveals shortcut options normally.

 I am a very basic user though.

 David Griffith

 On 05/02/2015 09:13, Catherine Turner wrote:
 Hi,

 I have YoruFukurou but haven't used it much yet.  I'd like to find
 some kind of overview/guide on using it with VO, or just in general,
 but haven't found one so far.  I went to the help but this took me to
 the home page with links to download the app and not really help.

 Does anyone know of any demonstrations/guides/podcasts about it?  In
 particular at the moment I'm wondering what the different views of the
 timeline are and how they're best used.  Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Catherine


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Re: [Mac-access]: YoruFukurou help

2015-02-06 Thread Catherine Turner
Another thing I'm wondering is whether it gets the stuff which goes on
while the app isn't open.  I would expect it to but, for example,
yesterday someone retweeted something of mine and yorofukurou doesn't
seem to have it because according to it the latest mention of me was
from November.  Yet right at the bottom of the table it has some
really old tweets which are before I even installed yorofukurou .
Confusing…

Catherine

On 2/6/15, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 When I'm in the timeline table I can't get into the context menu.
 Don't know if this depends what view you have it set to or something.

 I'm also wondering if/how you can set it to only show tweets within a
 certain time frame or from certain users.

 Catherine

 On 2/5/15, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am a bit of a novice myself but have found the app pretty
 straightforward for basic usage.

 What I normally do with any app is to explore it it and go through all
 the menu options, noting any short cut keys that VO announces. Also
 whilst in the Twitter table pressing shift VO M to bring up the context
 menu also reveals shortcut options normally.

 I am a very basic user though.

 David Griffith

 On 05/02/2015 09:13, Catherine Turner wrote:
 Hi,

 I have YoruFukurou but haven't used it much yet.  I'd like to find
 some kind of overview/guide on using it with VO, or just in general,
 but haven't found one so far.  I went to the help but this took me to
 the home page with links to download the app and not really help.

 Does anyone know of any demonstrations/guides/podcasts about it?  In
 particular at the moment I'm wondering what the different views of the
 timeline are and how they're best used.  Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Catherine


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[Mac-access]: YoruFukurou help

2015-02-05 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I have YoruFukurou but haven't used it much yet.  I'd like to find
some kind of overview/guide on using it with VO, or just in general,
but haven't found one so far.  I went to the help but this took me to
the home page with links to download the app and not really help.

Does anyone know of any demonstrations/guides/podcasts about it?  In
particular at the moment I'm wondering what the different views of the
timeline are and how they're best used.  Can anyone help?

Thanks,
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Re: Downcast adding a podcast help

2014-06-16 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Thanks.  Not sure what Shift Command t is meant to do but it doesn't
do anything for me.  But I went into that table and interacted with
the search like you said, typed in the box and pressed Enter.  I then
stopped interacting with it and the table and then went across to the
search results.  The troublesome bit which still puts me off sometimes
is in order to get to the search bit you need to go past the specify
url bit, and every time you go past that it pops up asking for a url
but then you can just press escape and carry on moving through the
table to find the search bit.

Thanks,
Catherine

On 6/15/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok. what you do is nit vi shift cmd t and go to the very first table. you
 will see verious options one of which is search. Interact with that and a
 text box should open.

 I really need to doa podcast on downcast  again.it's in my reminders I just
 keep forgetting.

 Take care.
 On Jun 15, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm using Downcast for the Mac version 1.0.12 (1241).  I'm wondering
 if/how it's possible to search for new podcasts?  If I go to the
 navigate menu, then add podcasts there's a table showing a list of
 podcasts.  To the left of that there seems to be a table where you can
 pick top podcasts in either all or lots of categories like arts etc.
 At the top of that table is an item where you can put in an url or
 opml file.

 What I'm wondering is where does Downcast get the list of top podcasts
 from, and is it possible to search for podcasts?  I think somewhere on
 the screen I found a search box but I don't know what it was for as
 couldn't get any results even when typing something I knew to be a
 downloaded episode , so not sure whether that was meant to search
 Itunes/a database of podcasts or my local episodes and just I couldn't
 get it to work.

 Sometimes I come across podcasts and can't find the url so am hoping I
 could search within Downcast.

 Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
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Downcast adding a podcast help

2014-06-15 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'm using Downcast for the Mac version 1.0.12 (1241).  I'm wondering
if/how it's possible to search for new podcasts?  If I go to the
navigate menu, then add podcasts there's a table showing a list of
podcasts.  To the left of that there seems to be a table where you can
pick top podcasts in either all or lots of categories like arts etc.
At the top of that table is an item where you can put in an url or
opml file.

What I'm wondering is where does Downcast get the list of top podcasts
from, and is it possible to search for podcasts?  I think somewhere on
the screen I found a search box but I don't know what it was for as
couldn't get any results even when typing something I knew to be a
downloaded episode , so not sure whether that was meant to search
Itunes/a database of podcasts or my local episodes and just I couldn't
get it to work.

Sometimes I come across podcasts and can't find the url so am hoping I
could search within Downcast.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Safari Reader help

2014-05-28 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'm a bit confused actually.  In a previous conversation someone said
they liked to add articles from Vienna to Safari Reader.  So I
carried on using that phrase.  Now I notice Vienna actually calls that
option add to Safari reading list.  So now looking at it yes this is
where my articles are listed.  It seems useful but I seem to get stuck
in it sometimes and not be able to get focused back on other tabs/bits
of the window.

Would like to try and get the Safari Reader working as well though but
every time I look at it in the menu it's dimmed.  Does this just
depend on the website or is there something I need to do to enable it
or something?  Could anyone send me an url which should work with the
Reader so I can see if it's working?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 5/28/14, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 I think Safari Reader is something different from the Reading List.

 The Reader with Command shift R is a brilliant feature where Safari will
 strip aloud all the extraneous links etc. and simply read the important
 contents of say a news article to you.

 So if I go to say a BBC News Page story  I routinely just hit command shift
 R on that page and Voiceover will read out the important text of that page
 to me without me having to take any further action.

 This is instant and is completely different, as far as I am aware, of
 saving
 content to a reading list.

 Safari will not always have the ability to provide Reader functions on all
 pages as it depends on how the page is constructed.


 David Griffith



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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
 Sent: 28 May 2014 00:13
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Safari Reader help

 Hi,

 I'm wondering how to use Safari reader.  .  In Vienna I did add to safari
 reading list for one article , now I wonder how I get to
 that article in Safari?  I can find the toggle reader item in the
 toolbar, and I can find select previous/next items in reading list
 from the bookmarks menu but these items are dimmed.  Does that mean
 the article hasn't been added to the reading list?  Or is there
 something else I need to do?

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Notification Centre and facebook confusion

2014-05-28 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I get notifications from facebook in the notification centre and can't
figure out why.  There must be a facebook app somewhere on my Mac but
I can't find it and I don't remember configuring it though I must have
at some point.  It must be an app because if I just go to facebook.com
in safari it asks me to sign in.  I'd like to find the app and switch
it off or see what the options are.  I know I can stop the
notifications appearing by looking at System Preferences but I'd like
to know where this app is and have a look at it.  According to the
Notifications  System Preferences there's a listing for Share Button,
Facebook and I'm wondering where this Share Button thing is.  Can't
find it in the apps folder or by searching with spotlight or looking
through launchpad.

Can anyone enlighten me about facebook in the notification centre
and/or share button?

Thanks,
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Safari Reader help

2014-05-27 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'm wondering how to use Safari reader.  .  In Vienna I did add to safari
reading list for one article , now I wonder how I get to
that article in Safari?  I can find the toggle reader item in the
toolbar, and I can find select previous/next items in reading list
from the bookmarks menu but these items are dimmed.  Does that mean
the article hasn't been added to the reading list?  Or is there
something else I need to do?

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Re: Vienna reading articles help

2014-05-05 Thread Catherine Turner
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 On May 3, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Ok, so now that I got all my feeds obsessively sorted and categorised
 I'm having a little trouble reading the articles.   I go to the table
 containing articles and once I find one I want to read, stop
 interacting with the table and then go and interact with the html
 content.  But this html content seems to just have the first few lines
 of the article.  To read the full article I seem to have to either
 click a link from that initial page or choose open article page from
 the context menu in the articles table.  This then opens the full
 article in a separate tab which I go and select and then move to the
 html content, interact and read from there.

 To anyone who's using Vienna, could you tell me if you find that the
 most efficient/convenient way to use it?  There are quite a few
 keystrokes available and maybe if I used some I could get around
 quicker.  How do you go about reading the full articles?  Any
 suggestions appreciated.

 Thanks,
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How to rate the currently playing track in Itunes?

2014-04-28 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

Can anyone help me rate the currently playing track in Itunes?  I have
a large playlist.  There's a table containing the songs in the
playlist and when I first hear a song I want to rate I interact with
the table and am automatically focused on the currently playing song
so I can easily rate it.  But what about later if I want to rate
another song?  When I interact with the table again I'm still focused
on the last song I rated.  How can I either make it automatically
focus on the currently playing song or find which song is playing?  Is
it possible?  I have a feeling it might be to do with the keyboard
focus or the mouse pointer is as opposed to the VO cursor but not sure
what to do...

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Re: Drag and drop was Re: Vienna

2014-04-08 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Sarah,

Lol I'm a bit obsessive when it comes to categories and folders.  I
have so many feeds and like to keep them in categories.  But I've
figured out how to do this in an opml file so will sort it that way
and import them.  I do love the program and will be sticking with it.

Catherine

On 4/7/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't even bother with folders. My feeds are jus talphabitised. lol!  I
 would not even worry about it, destroy your folders and just have the feeds
 scattered or try and put them in ABC order.  but make sure that you move
 your feeds out of the folders before you do this of corse. Vienna really
 rocks and is a very good pod catcher if you want to use it that way.

 Take care.
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Ah this is interesting as I haven't upgraded yet and am still using OS
 X 10.8.4.

 I wonder if there's some way of structuring an opml file so that feeds
 could be imported and put into desired folders in the way I want.  I'm
 not too bothered about alphabetising them but I really do want to be
 able to put folders where I want.  This is a shame as I really like
 the app otherwise.

 Catherine

 On 4/6/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think there is a focus issue as I've been trying to alphabetize my
 feeds
 again aster adding new ones. it was easier in osx mountain lion as focus
 was
 never lost, how ever it has become nearly impossible to do this under
 the
 current build of mavericks. I hope apple can take a look at this as I'd
 love
 to have the same access to drag and drop that a sighted person would
 have.

 Take care.
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Catherine,
 When I get the chance later, I'll experiment with it to try to give you
 some suggestions for how to get things just right with regard to the
 order
 of folders/feeds in Vienna.

 For now, let me just say that your confusion about the enclosed items
 will
 be eliminated when you understand that VO is not saying two items and
 closed.  It is saying two items enclosed.  Maybe that will help a
 little.  Still, it is a little tricky to get things
 exactly right with regard to the order of things in Vienna.  Admittedly,
 I
 have not been overly concerned about it but to get things into folders.

 On Apr 6, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I wonder if anyone can help me be more successful at drag and drop.
 I've been trying to create folders and put them in the order I want
 and at the level I want in Vienna but this probably applies to other
 situations too.

 I never seem to be able to get the folders where I want them.  Quite
 often folders I want at the same level as other folders end up inside
 them instead.  i.e. I want all the folders to be at level 0 but often
 when I drag a folder it ends up at level 1 inside another folder.  I
 wonder whether the disclosure triangle has anything to do with this
 and I have always been confused by the disclosure triangle.  I also
 wonder whether the use of quick nav affects how it works.  I quite
 often get confused when VO says things like folder bla level 1
 expanded, 2 items and closed - it seems odd to me that it can
 simultaneously say something is expanded and closed.

 Anyway I wonder if anyone can help me understand how to drag and drop
 folders.  I don't know enough to know whether what I'm trying to do is
 impossible all together, impossible in Vienna or I'm simply doing the
 wrong thing.

 At the moment I have a folder I created called development and another
 called food.  Food is further up the list and I want to put
 development before food.  So I have quick nav on and have interacted
 with the table.  I go to development, VO says development edit text
 collapsed.  I mark it for drag and drop and then move back up the
 list to food.  But it seems no matter if I press drop, drop before or
 drop after I always seem to end up with the development folder inside
 food or another folder.

 All I actually want to do is have all the folders at level 0 and
 arranged alphabetically.  But when I create a new folder in Vienna it
 often doesn't put it where I want which is why I got into this drag
 and drop in the first place.

 Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 4/5/14, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Catherine -
 Yes. Use drag and drop.

 On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Another question.  I've created a folder and am wondering how to put
 certain feeds into it.  I can't figure this out from the menus, help
 or FAQs...I'm assuming it's possible.  I created a folder called
 TechNews and want to put some of the feeds already in Vienna into that
 folder.  Can anyone tell me if/how that's possible?

 I tried going into the context menu and going to edit feed but this
 just allows me to change

Re: Drag and drop was Re: Vienna

2014-04-07 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Ah this is interesting as I haven't upgraded yet and am still using OS
X 10.8.4.

I wonder if there's some way of structuring an opml file so that feeds
could be imported and put into desired folders in the way I want.  I'm
not too bothered about alphabetising them but I really do want to be
able to put folders where I want.  This is a shame as I really like
the app otherwise.

Catherine

On 4/6/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think there is a focus issue as I've been trying to alphabetize my feeds
 again aster adding new ones. it was easier in osx mountain lion as focus was
 never lost, how ever it has become nearly impossible to do this under the
 current build of mavericks. I hope apple can take a look at this as I'd love
 to have the same access to drag and drop that a sighted person would have.

 Take care.
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Catherine,
 When I get the chance later, I'll experiment with it to try to give you
 some suggestions for how to get things just right with regard to the order
 of folders/feeds in Vienna.

 For now, let me just say that your confusion about the enclosed items will
 be eliminated when you understand that VO is not saying two items and
 closed.  It is saying two items enclosed.  Maybe that will help a
 little.  Still, it is a little tricky to get things
 exactly right with regard to the order of things in Vienna.  Admittedly, I
 have not been overly concerned about it but to get things into folders.

 On Apr 6, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I wonder if anyone can help me be more successful at drag and drop.
 I've been trying to create folders and put them in the order I want
 and at the level I want in Vienna but this probably applies to other
 situations too.

 I never seem to be able to get the folders where I want them.  Quite
 often folders I want at the same level as other folders end up inside
 them instead.  i.e. I want all the folders to be at level 0 but often
 when I drag a folder it ends up at level 1 inside another folder.  I
 wonder whether the disclosure triangle has anything to do with this
 and I have always been confused by the disclosure triangle.  I also
 wonder whether the use of quick nav affects how it works.  I quite
 often get confused when VO says things like folder bla level 1
 expanded, 2 items and closed - it seems odd to me that it can
 simultaneously say something is expanded and closed.

 Anyway I wonder if anyone can help me understand how to drag and drop
 folders.  I don't know enough to know whether what I'm trying to do is
 impossible all together, impossible in Vienna or I'm simply doing the
 wrong thing.

 At the moment I have a folder I created called development and another
 called food.  Food is further up the list and I want to put
 development before food.  So I have quick nav on and have interacted
 with the table.  I go to development, VO says development edit text
 collapsed.  I mark it for drag and drop and then move back up the
 list to food.  But it seems no matter if I press drop, drop before or
 drop after I always seem to end up with the development folder inside
 food or another folder.

 All I actually want to do is have all the folders at level 0 and
 arranged alphabetically.  But when I create a new folder in Vienna it
 often doesn't put it where I want which is why I got into this drag
 and drop in the first place.

 Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 4/5/14, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Catherine -
 Yes. Use drag and drop.

 On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Another question.  I've created a folder and am wondering how to put
 certain feeds into it.  I can't figure this out from the menus, help
 or FAQs...I'm assuming it's possible.  I created a folder called
 TechNews and want to put some of the feeds already in Vienna into that
 folder.  Can anyone tell me if/how that's possible?

 I tried going into the context menu and going to edit feed but this
 just allows me to change the url.  Option clicking on it does the
 same...

 Perhaps I would need to drag and drop.  Or perhaps I'm
 misunderstanding the way folders work in Vienna...  Any thoughts?

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 4/4/14, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Ah thanks, that did it.

 Catherine

 On 4/4/14, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 Try VO shift space.

 Sent from my iPod

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 19:29, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,

 Glad you mentioned Vienna, have downloaded it and it looks just the
 kind of thing I was after.  One question - I was looking in the
 preferences and don't seem to be able to activate any of the buttons
 other than general in the toolbar for the preferences.  Have you
 tried this?  Are you able to get to all of the preferences?

 Catherine

Drag and drop was Re: Vienna

2014-04-06 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

I wonder if anyone can help me be more successful at drag and drop.
I've been trying to create folders and put them in the order I want
and at the level I want in Vienna but this probably applies to other
situations too.

I never seem to be able to get the folders where I want them.  Quite
often folders I want at the same level as other folders end up inside
them instead.  i.e. I want all the folders to be at level 0 but often
when I drag a folder it ends up at level 1 inside another folder.  I
wonder whether the disclosure triangle has anything to do with this
and I have always been confused by the disclosure triangle.  I also
wonder whether the use of quick nav affects how it works.  I quite
often get confused when VO says things like folder bla level 1
expanded, 2 items and closed - it seems odd to me that it can
simultaneously say something is expanded and closed.

Anyway I wonder if anyone can help me understand how to drag and drop
folders.  I don't know enough to know whether what I'm trying to do is
impossible all together, impossible in Vienna or I'm simply doing the
wrong thing.

At the moment I have a folder I created called development and another
called food.  Food is further up the list and I want to put
development before food.  So I have quick nav on and have interacted
with the table.  I go to development, VO says development edit text
collapsed.  I mark it for drag and drop and then move back up the
list to food.  But it seems no matter if I press drop, drop before or
drop after I always seem to end up with the development folder inside
food or another folder.

All I actually want to do is have all the folders at level 0 and
arranged alphabetically.  But when I create a new folder in Vienna it
often doesn't put it where I want which is why I got into this drag
and drop in the first place.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 4/5/14, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Catherine -
 Yes. Use drag and drop.

 On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Another question.  I've created a folder and am wondering how to put
 certain feeds into it.  I can't figure this out from the menus, help
 or FAQs...I'm assuming it's possible.  I created a folder called
 TechNews and want to put some of the feeds already in Vienna into that
 folder.  Can anyone tell me if/how that's possible?

 I tried going into the context menu and going to edit feed but this
 just allows me to change the url.  Option clicking on it does the
 same...

 Perhaps I would need to drag and drop.  Or perhaps I'm
 misunderstanding the way folders work in Vienna...  Any thoughts?

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 4/4/14, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Ah thanks, that did it.

 Catherine

 On 4/4/14, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 Try VO shift space.

 Sent from my iPod

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 19:29, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,

 Glad you mentioned Vienna, have downloaded it and it looks just the
 kind of thing I was after.  One question - I was looking in the
 preferences and don't seem to be able to activate any of the buttons
 other than general in the toolbar for the preferences.  Have you
 tried this?  Are you able to get to all of the preferences?

 Catherine

 On 4/2/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I personally use down cast for osx, and vienna for my rss reader. I
 have
 my
 own personal reasons why I will not get QCast, but thanks for the
 review.
 On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith
 d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

 After purchasing QCast for my Windows machine I noticed that I was
 also
 entitled to install it on my Mac for no extra fee.

 My initial observations of QCast on the Mac side is very positive. It
 is
 designed for use with Voiceover for visually impaired people.

 I was able to import my feed OPML from  my dropbox with no issue and
 all
 my
 normal podcast subscriptions were instantly available in QCast.

 So far I have only played Podcasts on the Mac side but if it follows
 the
 Windows implementation, as it appears to so far, you will be able to
 download podcasts into a  QCast folder in your documents directory. I
 will
 try to check this later.

 QCast offers nothing that is not already available in iTunes but does
 so
 with a massively simpler and easier interface. It is certainly more
 straightforward to play a podcast than in iTunes.

 If your main way of listening to Podcasts is   on an iOS device you
 may
 be
 better off sticking with Downcast  though where you can organise
 everything
 on your device.

 Having said that  QCast will definitely become my standard way of
 playing
 Podcasts on the Mac.

 QCast cost me $10 payable by PayPal and the user key and activation
 details
 came immediately.
 For that I received the right for a standard installation on Windows
 and
 Mac
 side and portable installations on Windows and Mac side

Re: Vienna was Re: Qcast

2014-04-05 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Another question.  I've created a folder and am wondering how to put
certain feeds into it.  I can't figure this out from the menus, help
or FAQs...I'm assuming it's possible.  I created a folder called
TechNews and want to put some of the feeds already in Vienna into that
folder.  Can anyone tell me if/how that's possible?

I tried going into the context menu and going to edit feed but this
just allows me to change the url.  Option clicking on it does the
same...

Perhaps I would need to drag and drop.  Or perhaps I'm
misunderstanding the way folders work in Vienna...  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 4/4/14, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Ah thanks, that did it.

 Catherine

 On 4/4/14, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 Try VO shift space.

 Sent from my iPod

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 19:29, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,

 Glad you mentioned Vienna, have downloaded it and it looks just the
 kind of thing I was after.  One question - I was looking in the
 preferences and don't seem to be able to activate any of the buttons
 other than general in the toolbar for the preferences.  Have you
 tried this?  Are you able to get to all of the preferences?

 Catherine

 On 4/2/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I personally use down cast for osx, and vienna for my rss reader. I
 have
 my
 own personal reasons why I will not get QCast, but thanks for the
 review.
 On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

 After purchasing QCast for my Windows machine I noticed that I was
 also
 entitled to install it on my Mac for no extra fee.

 My initial observations of QCast on the Mac side is very positive. It
 is
 designed for use with Voiceover for visually impaired people.

 I was able to import my feed OPML from  my dropbox with no issue and
 all
 my
 normal podcast subscriptions were instantly available in QCast.

 So far I have only played Podcasts on the Mac side but if it follows
 the
 Windows implementation, as it appears to so far, you will be able to
 download podcasts into a  QCast folder in your documents directory. I
 will
 try to check this later.

 QCast offers nothing that is not already available in iTunes but does
 so
 with a massively simpler and easier interface. It is certainly more
 straightforward to play a podcast than in iTunes.

 If your main way of listening to Podcasts is   on an iOS device you
 may
 be
 better off sticking with Downcast  though where you can organise
 everything
 on your device.

 Having said that  QCast will definitely become my standard way of
 playing
 Podcasts on the Mac.

 QCast cost me $10 payable by PayPal and the user key and activation
 details
 came immediately.
 For that I received the right for a standard installation on Windows
 and
 Mac
 side and portable installations on Windows and Mac side.

 It can be run as a demo with a restriction of  only one podcast feed.

 I was happy enough  to also purchase QFeed which is an RSS Reader from
 the
 same programmer. So far I have only installed this on Windows and it
 appears
 to work well. Again for the $10 fee you get rights to also install on
 a
 Mac
 and for portable installations on both Windows and Mac. I will report
 back
 if there is interest on my findings of QFeed on the Mac side.

 Regards

 David Griffith


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Re: Vienna was Re: Qcast

2014-04-04 Thread Catherine Turner
Ah thanks, that did it.

Catherine

On 4/4/14, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 Try VO shift space.

 Sent from my iPod

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 19:29, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,

 Glad you mentioned Vienna, have downloaded it and it looks just the
 kind of thing I was after.  One question - I was looking in the
 preferences and don't seem to be able to activate any of the buttons
 other than general in the toolbar for the preferences.  Have you
 tried this?  Are you able to get to all of the preferences?

 Catherine

 On 4/2/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I personally use down cast for osx, and vienna for my rss reader. I have
 my
 own personal reasons why I will not get QCast, but thanks for the
 review.
 On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

 After purchasing QCast for my Windows machine I noticed that I was also
 entitled to install it on my Mac for no extra fee.

 My initial observations of QCast on the Mac side is very positive. It
 is
 designed for use with Voiceover for visually impaired people.

 I was able to import my feed OPML from  my dropbox with no issue and
 all
 my
 normal podcast subscriptions were instantly available in QCast.

 So far I have only played Podcasts on the Mac side but if it follows
 the
 Windows implementation, as it appears to so far, you will be able to
 download podcasts into a  QCast folder in your documents directory. I
 will
 try to check this later.

 QCast offers nothing that is not already available in iTunes but does
 so
 with a massively simpler and easier interface. It is certainly more
 straightforward to play a podcast than in iTunes.

 If your main way of listening to Podcasts is   on an iOS device you may
 be
 better off sticking with Downcast  though where you can organise
 everything
 on your device.

 Having said that  QCast will definitely become my standard way of
 playing
 Podcasts on the Mac.

 QCast cost me $10 payable by PayPal and the user key and activation
 details
 came immediately.
 For that I received the right for a standard installation on Windows
 and
 Mac
 side and portable installations on Windows and Mac side.

 It can be run as a demo with a restriction of  only one podcast feed.

 I was happy enough  to also purchase QFeed which is an RSS Reader from
 the
 same programmer. So far I have only installed this on Windows and it
 appears
 to work well. Again for the $10 fee you get rights to also install on a
 Mac
 and for portable installations on both Windows and Mac. I will report
 back
 if there is interest on my findings of QFeed on the Mac side.

 Regards

 David Griffith


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Vienna was Re: Qcast

2014-04-03 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Sarah,

Glad you mentioned Vienna, have downloaded it and it looks just the
kind of thing I was after.  One question - I was looking in the
preferences and don't seem to be able to activate any of the buttons
other than general in the toolbar for the preferences.  Have you
tried this?  Are you able to get to all of the preferences?

Catherine

On 4/2/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I personally use down cast for osx, and vienna for my rss reader. I have my
 own personal reasons why I will not get QCast, but thanks for the review.
 On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

 After purchasing QCast for my Windows machine I noticed that I was also
 entitled to install it on my Mac for no extra fee.

 My initial observations of QCast on the Mac side is very positive. It is
 designed for use with Voiceover for visually impaired people.

 I was able to import my feed OPML from  my dropbox with no issue and all
 my
 normal podcast subscriptions were instantly available in QCast.

 So far I have only played Podcasts on the Mac side but if it follows the
 Windows implementation, as it appears to so far, you will be able to
 download podcasts into a  QCast folder in your documents directory. I
 will
 try to check this later.

 QCast offers nothing that is not already available in iTunes but does so
 with a massively simpler and easier interface. It is certainly more
 straightforward to play a podcast than in iTunes.

 If your main way of listening to Podcasts is   on an iOS device you may
 be
 better off sticking with Downcast  though where you can organise
 everything
 on your device.

 Having said that  QCast will definitely become my standard way of playing
 Podcasts on the Mac.

 QCast cost me $10 payable by PayPal and the user key and activation
 details
 came immediately.
 For that I received the right for a standard installation on Windows and
 Mac
 side and portable installations on Windows and Mac side.

 It can be run as a demo with a restriction of  only one podcast feed.

 I was happy enough  to also purchase QFeed which is an RSS Reader from
 the
 same programmer. So far I have only installed this on Windows and it
 appears
 to work well. Again for the $10 fee you get rights to also install on a
 Mac
 and for portable installations on both Windows and Mac. I will report
 back
 if there is interest on my findings of QFeed on the Mac side.

 Regards

 David Griffith


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Re: Qcast

2014-04-02 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'd be really interested to hear about your findings with QFeed.  I
want to find an RSS reader for the Mac.  Last night I installed
Readkit but am not getting on well with it.

Ideally I want a reader where I can easily save articles for future
viewing. I really like lire on ios but want something for the Mac...

Catherine

On 4/2/14, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 After purchasing QCast for my Windows machine I noticed that I was also
 entitled to install it on my Mac for no extra fee.

 My initial observations of QCast on the Mac side is very positive. It is
 designed for use with Voiceover for visually impaired people.

 I was able to import my feed OPML from  my dropbox with no issue and all my
 normal podcast subscriptions were instantly available in QCast.

 So far I have only played Podcasts on the Mac side but if it follows the
 Windows implementation, as it appears to so far, you will be able to
 download podcasts into a  QCast folder in your documents directory. I will
 try to check this later.

 QCast offers nothing that is not already available in iTunes but does so
 with a massively simpler and easier interface. It is certainly more
 straightforward to play a podcast than in iTunes.

 If your main way of listening to Podcasts is   on an iOS device you may be
 better off sticking with Downcast  though where you can organise everything
 on your device.

  Having said that  QCast will definitely become my standard way of playing
 Podcasts on the Mac.

 QCast cost me $10 payable by PayPal and the user key and activation details
 came immediately.
 For that I received the right for a standard installation on Windows and
 Mac
 side and portable installations on Windows and Mac side.

 It can be run as a demo with a restriction of  only one podcast feed.

 I was happy enough  to also purchase QFeed which is an RSS Reader from the
 same programmer. So far I have only installed this on Windows and it
 appears
 to work well. Again for the $10 fee you get rights to also install on a Mac
 and for portable installations on both Windows and Mac. I will report back
 if there is interest on my findings of QFeed on the Mac side.

 Regards

 David Griffith


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Mail sending alerts to myself?

2014-02-21 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Most of the time I read my gmail n the web, but occasionally use Mail.
 Every now and then Mail of its own accord sends a message from my
gmail account to my gmail account telling me about the time of a
meeting.  To my knowledge I haven't set this up anywhere - I haven't
ever entered anything in a calendar on the Mac or set anything to send
myself e-mail alerts.  This always seems to happen regarding meetings
arranged by the same person.  She sends me e-mails, which I read on
the web, about meetings and then I write them down on a completely
unrelated device (my braillenote which isn't synched to mail or
calendar or anything).

Can anyone explain how these e-mail alerts get automatically sent?
There must be some setting somewhere either on the Mac or in gmail I
don't know about.  It's quite odd and unnerving when this happens...

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Re: YoruFukuru help

2014-02-07 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Dane, Sarah,

Thanks for the info on how to find and follow a user Dane.

Sarah great, I'll have a listen to those podcasts.  I subscribe to
tffp in my pod catcher Icatcher but just had a look through episodes
not downloaded and the ones you link to don't seem to be listed.
Wonder if I need to look back further or maybe you had a different
feed address before...

The next difficulty I'm having is trying to look at older tweets than
the ones currently being displayed.  Need to go back over the last few
days and they're not displayed in the table.  Went to preferences and
told it to display 800 tweets but it doesn't seem to have done this.

In an attempt to find help on this went into the help menu.  Always
struggle with help menus on the Mac, VO normally says search results
interactive and I then can't get anything spoken and normally give up
and press escape.  This time I thought, since it was described as
search results interactive, I'll try typing something in there.  So
typed older meaning to search help for older, pressed Enter, upon
which I sent out a tweet just saying older.  How embarrassing.
Maybe people will think it's my birthday? lol Will have a listen to
the podcasts next anyway...

Thanks for your help,
Catherine

On 2/6/14, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here you go.

 http://www.tffppodcast.com/a-look-at-yorufukurou-a-twitter-client-for-the-mac/

 I go over everything except the appearance tab as I can't see it but  yeah
 there you go.

 also this but it was done under ml.

 http://www.tffppodcast.com/02-looking-at-mountain-lion-the-finder-yorufukurou-and-some-of-the-system-prefs/

 Take care and happy thursday.


 On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've just installed YoruFukurou and wonder if anyone can give me some
 tips to get me started?  At the moment I can't figure out how to
 search for a user and then follow them.  I found a search box in the
 toolbar but not sure it did anything when I typed there...can anyone
 help with how to find users and any other getting started tips you
 think mint be useful?

 Thanks,
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YoruFukuru help

2014-02-06 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I've just installed YoruFukurou and wonder if anyone can give me some
tips to get me started?  At the moment I can't figure out how to
search for a user and then follow them.  I found a search box in the
toolbar but not sure it did anything when I typed there...can anyone
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Re: Problem using a headset

2013-10-21 Thread Catherine Turner
Thanks Sarah, that helps.

Catherine

On 10/19/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok. to get your outputs so that vo will speak even when you have it set
 differently, go to the vo utilities and set under sound, cmd 6, the input to
 your internal speakers, not default input. This way you can switch outputs
 and have vo tell you which one. As for your headset problem I don't know as
 all of mine are hard wired.

 Take care.
 On Oct 19, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Can anyone give me any hints about using a headset with my Mac?  I
 have one which I can get working sometimes and not oner times.  It's a
 Logitech H800 headset.  It's meant to have both bluetooth and wireless
 which I thin complicates matters.

 The headset has three positions in the device selecter switch which
 I believe are off, bluetooth and wireless.  Although it's hard to tell
 because sometimes when the audio has come through, I switch to the off
 position and the audio carries on coming no matter which position I pt
 the switch to.

 So I put the dongle in and switch the headset to what I believe is the
 wireless position.  No sound comes through.  I go to sound in system
 preferences and to the output tab, and here I am stumped because it
 seems impossible to just look through the available options with VO
 without actually picking one.  So it starts set on internal speakers
 and there are 5 rows in the table but as soon as I start moving down
 the table VO goes silent, presumably because the sound is trying to
 output to a device which isn't connected/working.

 I have had this headset working a few times and I just can't fathom
 any pattern involving which switch I select, whether I put the dongle
 in first or last, whether I try to connect via the headset name in men
 extras/bluetooth or go to system preferences.  It's possible the
 headset is faulty but this would seem odd as it has worked a few times
 and is quite new.

 Has anyone got any ideas?  Is there any way of exploring those options
 in sound output under system preferences without actually activating
 them?  And failing all that, has anyone got any recommendations of
 headsets which work properly for a baffled person like me?

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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2013-10-19 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

Can anyone give me any hints about using a headset with my Mac?  I
have one which I can get working sometimes and not oner times.  It's a
Logitech H800 headset.  It's meant to have both bluetooth and wireless
which I thin complicates matters.

The headset has three positions in the device selecter switch which
I believe are off, bluetooth and wireless.  Although it's hard to tell
because sometimes when the audio has come through, I switch to the off
position and the audio carries on coming no matter which position I pt
the switch to.

So I put the dongle in and switch the headset to what I believe is the
wireless position.  No sound comes through.  I go to sound in system
preferences and to the output tab, and here I am stumped because it
seems impossible to just look through the available options with VO
without actually picking one.  So it starts set on internal speakers
and there are 5 rows in the table but as soon as I start moving down
the table VO goes silent, presumably because the sound is trying to
output to a device which isn't connected/working.

I have had this headset working a few times and I just can't fathom
any pattern involving which switch I select, whether I put the dongle
in first or last, whether I try to connect via the headset name in men
extras/bluetooth or go to system preferences.  It's possible the
headset is faulty but this would seem odd as it has worked a few times
and is quite new.

Has anyone got any ideas?  Is there any way of exploring those options
in sound output under system preferences without actually activating
them?  And failing all that, has anyone got any recommendations of
headsets which work properly for a baffled person like me?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Setting up Mail

2013-09-12 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Thanks.  Have set it up now.  Now must get familiar with how it works
and the layout.  At the moment there are no messages there, I guess I
have to tell it to get the mail an it doesn't get it automatically.
Will read the Voiceover manual about it - anyone any other suggestions
for reading or starting tips for using Mail?

Catherine

On 9/12/13, Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hello there. I never put anything in there. When you hit continue it should
 be able to find the settings it needs. If it doesn't it should take you  to
 the mail app where you can fill in what you need. Once again I never put
 anything in that text field and it has not hurt anything.
 On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I just went to set up Mail for the first time on my Macbook.  It asked
 for some information like name, e-mail address and password which I
 filled in.  But one of the text fields wasn't saying what it was for -
 VO just said text field.  Anyone remember or got any ideas what that
 text field is for?

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Setting up Mail

2013-09-11 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I just went to set up Mail for the first time on my Macbook.  It asked
for some information like name, e-mail address and password which I
filled in.  But one of the text fields wasn't saying what it was for -
VO just said text field.  Anyone remember or got any ideas what that
text field is for?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Skype capcha code

2013-08-26 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

The Skype app isn't in the store, you have to go to Skype's website
and get it from there.

On the subject of searching for things in the app store, the way I do
this is go to the toolbar and interact with it, somewhere in there
there's a search box…I just press enter when I've finished typing and
the results appear in the main bit of the window..there may be other
ways to do this I haven't found yet but this works for me…

Hth,
Catherine

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 Chris - Where do I get the SkypeMac app? I've looked in the Mac store, and
 couldn't find a Skype app. Incidentally, do you have any tips for doing a
 quick search in the App store? It's easy on the phone, but from the Mac,
 there isn't even a text box for search terms -

 Andy
 On 26 Aug 2013, at 21:31, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andy, just use the Skype mac or iPhone app to sign up.

 On 26/08/2013 21:14, Andy Collins wrote:
 Hi all - I was just taking a quick look at the sign up requirement for
 Skype, and see there is a captcha field. There is an audio option, but is
 it clear enough to hear? I didn't want to get that far only to find I
 couldn't complete the sign up process for an account because I couldn't
 hear the captcha well enough -

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Re: Starting apps automatically and warnings about downloading from web pages

2013-08-23 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Ah, well after doing a bit of googling I find that others have
experienced this problem with Skype too, and a solution someone has
written about involves doing some stuff in Terminal, I think basically
switching off that warning just for that app.  Has anyone used
Terminal and is it accessible with VO?

Catherine

On 8/23/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hmm. that should only appear once. I don't know why it is appearing every
 time you launch skype. I think what you are experiencing is gatek keeper
 which allows only certain types of apps to open automatically with out
 warning you. I would leave that on for your safety, but normally you only
 receive that message once and that's it.

 thoughts as to what to do from here?
 On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have an app (Skype) which I'd like to start automatically when my
 Macbook boots up.  I selected the open at login option from its
 shortcut menu in dock, but it never opens automatically.  I wonder if
 this is connected to the fact that every time I start Skype I get a
 warning saying this app was downloaded from a website and I have to
 click the open button to get it to run.

 Does anyone know if these two things are connected, and is there any
 way of having Skype run automatically and/or switching off that
 warning?

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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Starting apps automatically and warnings about downloading from web pages

2013-08-22 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I have an app (Skype) which I'd like to start automatically when my
Macbook boots up.  I selected the open at login option from its
shortcut menu in dock, but it never opens automatically.  I wonder if
this is connected to the fact that every time I start Skype I get a
warning saying this app was downloaded from a website and I have to
click the open button to get it to run.

Does anyone know if these two things are connected, and is there any
way of having Skype run automatically and/or switching off that
warning?

Thanks,
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Watching DVDs

2013-08-20 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

How are people watching DVDs on your Macs?  I'd like to watch some
DVDs on my Macbook.  The default app doesn't seem too easy to use, at
least I can't seem to get it to work.  I found a program called
Softcon DVD player which seems really good butI can't get it to play
anything.  Has anyone got any ideas?  How do you go about playing DVDs
and accessing the audio description if they have any?

Thanks,
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Re: Identifying capital letters

2013-08-16 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi both,

Thanks for your suggestion but I can't get it to do what I want.  I
changed it to play a tone when encountering a capital letter.  THis
seems to make it make a tone when I type a capital letter, but what
I'm bothered about is knowing about the capitals when I'm arrowing up
and down to read lines of text.  It doesn't seem to make any
difference to how it reads when I do this.  In textedit I'd like to be
able to arrow up and down the lines and have VO make some indication
of the caps without also having to arrow left/right along a
line…should this be possible?  It's not doing that at the moment,
perhaps it makes a difference what the cursor tracking options are set
to…any ideas…?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 8/16/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lol. yeah that's where it is. I have it  actually turned off as I just spell
 check most of the time and I don't' even pay attention to the tone or the
 word misspelled anymore as I tuned it out.  I to also type way too fast for
 my own good but want to type even faster. 66.5  wpm is dreadful. lol!

 Good luck.
 On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello Catherine,

 Try looking in the VO Utility, Verbosity, and on the Text tab. You can ask
 VO to play a tone, which is my personal favourite. But there are other
 options.

 HTH

 Gena

 On 15 Aug 2013, at 08:44, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I frequently have the habit of accidentally typing the second letters
 of words as capitals as well as the first, I suppose because I type
 quite quickly.  I've noticed that, when just arrowing up and down
 lines of text, VO doesn't read such words any differently to normal.
 I have to arrow along letter by letter to realise there's a problem.
 Is there any way to get VO to pronounce these mistyped words
 differently?  I mean, say I'm in Textedit, and I'm just using cursor
 up and down to read lines…these words don't come up as mis-spelled, so
 the only way I can check is to read every letter which takes too
 long…any idea?

 Thanks,
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Identifying capital letters

2013-08-15 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I frequently have the habit of accidentally typing the second letters
of words as capitals as well as the first, I suppose because I type
quite quickly.  I've noticed that, when just arrowing up and down
lines of text, VO doesn't read such words any differently to normal.
I have to arrow along letter by letter to realise there's a problem.
Is there any way to get VO to pronounce these mistyped words
differently?  I mean, say I'm in Textedit, and I'm just using cursor
up and down to read lines…these words don't come up as mis-spelled, so
the only way I can check is to read every letter which takes too
long…any idea?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Help with Itunes

2013-06-28 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

Thanks for this - I now found the autofill, I had to make sure the
side bar and status bar were showing from the view menu as they were
off by default.  May use smart play lists as well.

Catherine

On 6/27/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is under music radio button  under your device name. There is an auto
 fill, or there was when I checked a few weeks ago. Since I don't know what
 that option does I left it alone. lol!

 Take care.
 On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 wrote:

 Okay, here's what I do.

 I have thousands of tracks in my iTunes library but I don't want to hear
 them all, only my Favourite Tracks are what's required on my iPod or
 other IOS devices.

 I made a Smart Playlist which monitors what I play, for example if I've
 heard a song more than once then this is added to the playlist, the
 assumption here of course is that if the track has been played more than
 once then I most likely want to hear that track again.


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 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 My iPod isn't big enough for all my library, and I'd like iTunes to
 pick a selection of stuff and put it on there.  I used to do autofill
 in an older version of iTunes.  I can't find that function now.  I'm
 not sure which version of iTunes I'm running now (and don't know how
 to find out but I did download it within the last month or so.

 I have itunes set not to sync automatically.

 Can anyone help?
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Help with Itunes

2013-06-27 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

My iPod isn't big enough for all my library, and I'd like iTunes to
pick a selection of stuff and put it on there.  I used to do autofill
in an older version of iTunes.  I can't find that function now.  I'm
not sure which version of iTunes I'm running now (and don't know how
to find out but I did download it within the last month or so.

I have itunes set not to sync automatically.

Can anyone help?
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Re: navigating around tables on web page

2013-06-23 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Margaret,

I struggle with this myself sometimes but will try and help.

If you have  a numpad I find it behaves most consistently with using
the numpad - 8 and 2 are up and down and will go up and down cells in
a column; 4 and 6 go left and right along a row.  When you get to the
bottom of a column and try to go down it wraps to the top of the next
column - at least it does for me, but it's possible this is an option
to be configured.

If you don't use the numpad you can use a trackpad or the normal VO
cursor navigation commands I think, but this is where I'm still hazy -
it seems sometimes you may have to choose navigation from the rotor,
and VO sometimes seems to automatically interact with a table or a
cell and his makes a difference to how you navigate and I haven't
figured it out enough to explain the properly - that's why I stick
with the numpad which behaves consistently for me.

Hope this helps a bit anyway,
Catherine

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 Can someone please tell me how to navigate through a table on  a web page
 using VO in Safari.


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Help with mouse

2013-06-16 Thread Catherine Turner
Hello,

I wonder if it's possible to control click a certain file in Explorer
using the mouse with Voiceover.  The reason I ask is I want to access
the view previous versions item on a Dropbox file.  From
instructions I read this option appears after control clicking a file
in Explorer - is there a keyboard equivalent of this?  If not, I
wonder how to get the mouse to the correct place and control click.
It should also be possible to do this via the dropbox website but I
can't ind the option that's meant to appear so maybe it's not visible
to Voiceover in Safari.

Anyhow I open Finder, have quick nag off, arrow to the file I want,
press VO Command f5, then (with mouse keys on) press Control numpad 5.
 THis does option click on a file as the menu I want comes up, but it
is not the file I wanted.  It seems the mouse is stuck on one
particular file and I can't get it to the file I want.  ALso on this
subject, I don't understand why in the commands help the command for
mouse up and mouse downer the same?  And how come there isn' a command
for mouse left or mouse right?

Has anyone got any ideas how I can option click a file? Or has anyone
found another way to view previous versions of a file in Dropbox?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Wireless headset recommendations?

2013-06-16 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Can anyone recommend a wireless headset which works both with Windows and Mac?

Catherine
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Re: Wireless headset recommendations?

2013-06-16 Thread Catherine Turner
My apologies, I didn't mean to send this message here, sorry about that.

On 6/16/13, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anyone recommend a wireless headset which works both with Windows and
 Mac?

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Re: Bluetooth/setting up a braille display

2013-05-22 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Josh,

I'm trying to use a Braillenote Apex (sold by Humanware).  In the list
of displays it is listed as a HIMS Braille Edge 40.  (I selected the
Apex during the pairing process but it's now listed as a Braille
Edge).  For all I know the hardware is from HIMS but it certainly
doesn't have 40 cells so I'm thinking it probably doesn't have a
driver…  Though it does work with my iPod…

Catherine

On 5/21/13, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe I missed it somewhere, but what display are you trying to use?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 21, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm. Maybe there is no driver for your braille display yet? I really
 don't' know as I don't use the things. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 20, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,

 Thanks for your suggestion.  I went into menu extras and bluetooth
 seemed to be switched on.  Also I could find the Macbook when I
 searched for bluetooth devices from another device.  So I switched it
 off and then did the add braille display again and switched it on
 again and then it let me proceed.  But after I paired it I was in an
 edit field and couldn't read anything in it or find anything else in
 the window.  Don't know what that was all about.  And have no braille
 on the display, tried resetting the display but still not working.  I
 think maybe there's no driver for this display (a Braillenote Apex)
 because now in the list of displays in Voiceover Utility it says this
 display has 40 cells which it doesn't.  Anyway I'll ask on the
 braillenote list or ask Humanware…thanks for your help.

 Catherine

 On 5/20/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is on her mac not ios. Now to that, Try going to the extras menu
 and
 turning on boo tooth. If you hear turn off blue tooth you know it is
 already
 on. As for why your display won't be noticed I really have no idea, but
 it's
 a start.
 On May 20, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Do you have Bluetooth on on  the iOS devices? Go to settings and
 Bluetooth and turn on Bluetooth.

 On 5/20/13, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to set up a braille display and am having trouble with
 bluetooth.   I go to braille and add, but it says bluetooth is
 switched off.  When I go into System Preferences it seems like it's
 switched on - there's some info about the name of the computer, then
 there's a checkbox saying on, which is checked.  There's also a
 checkbox saying discoverable which is checked.  But still Voiceover
 Utility says bluetooth is switched off.  Is there something else I
 need to do in System Preferences?

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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Re: Bluetooth/setting up a braille display

2013-05-21 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Sarah,

Thanks for your suggestion.  I went into menu extras and bluetooth
seemed to be switched on.  Also I could find the Macbook when I
searched for bluetooth devices from another device.  So I switched it
off and then did the add braille display again and switched it on
again and then it let me proceed.  But after I paired it I was in an
edit field and couldn't read anything in it or find anything else in
the window.  Don't know what that was all about.  And have no braille
on the display, tried resetting the display but still not working.  I
think maybe there's no driver for this display (a Braillenote Apex)
because now in the list of displays in Voiceover Utility it says this
display has 40 cells which it doesn't.  Anyway I'll ask on the
braillenote list or ask Humanware…thanks for your help.

Catherine

On 5/20/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is on her mac not ios. Now to that, Try going to the extras menu and
 turning on boo tooth. If you hear turn off blue tooth you know it is already
 on. As for why your display won't be noticed I really have no idea, but it's
 a start.
 On May 20, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have Bluetooth on on  the iOS devices? Go to settings and
 Bluetooth and turn on Bluetooth.

 On 5/20/13, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to set up a braille display and am having trouble with
 bluetooth.   I go to braille and add, but it says bluetooth is
 switched off.  When I go into System Preferences it seems like it's
 switched on - there's some info about the name of the computer, then
 there's a checkbox saying on, which is checked.  There's also a
 checkbox saying discoverable which is checked.  But still Voiceover
 Utility says bluetooth is switched off.  Is there something else I
 need to do in System Preferences?

 Thanks,
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Bluetooth/setting up a braille display

2013-05-19 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'm trying to set up a braille display and am having trouble with
bluetooth.   I go to braille and add, but it says bluetooth is
switched off.  When I go into System Preferences it seems like it's
switched on - there's some info about the name of the computer, then
there's a checkbox saying on, which is checked.  There's also a
checkbox saying discoverable which is checked.  But still Voiceover
Utility says bluetooth is switched off.  Is there something else I
need to do in System Preferences?

Thanks,
Catherine
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How to read a pdf file?

2013-05-12 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I have a pdf I want to read and am wondering how to do this.  When I
opened it from Finder it opened in Preview and I was able to read some
of it but not all.  I'm wondering howI scroll down to read the rest,
or is there a different app I should use to red the file?  There was
an option to view it using Safari which I tried but couldn't find it
in the actual page in Safari.  What do people here do or reading pdfs?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Password protecting or encrypting a file?

2013-05-07 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I created the disc image.  Now I'm wondering how I add files to it?  I
already have a file in documents I'd like to put in there - can anyone
tell me how I get it into the disc image?  Also what does mount and
dismount mean in terms of how to access the file?

On a related subject, I did try to learn something about the process
by clicking the help button in one of the dialogs when I was creating
the disc image.  But after clicking help I seemed to be in a text
field wanting me to type a topic/question in, whereas I fought I'd be
in some context-sensitive help.  Generally speaking, does context
sensitive help come up when clicking help buttons in dialogs?  If so,
how do I get out of the edit box and into the help text?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 4/30/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't remember what the 2 fields are, but I would fill in both.  1  with
 the name of the dmg or bundle as it will call it, then the name with a more
 meaningful name.

 You can put a file or files in there after words. I have 1 for my journal, 1
 for a set of jingles i used to use, and one for a set of passwords I keep.

 All of these have various  limits. I even have an unprotected one for a
 flash drive I use for nls that is 7 gigs big, no more, no less.  and i have
 it set to where the size is not pre-allocated.

 Good luck.
 On Apr 30, 2013, at 2:33 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,

 Thanks for this suggestion and instructions.  I'm unsure about
 something though.  When I go to create a new disk image there are two
 edit fields.  One is called save as and the other is called name.
 I'm not sure what the difference between these is.  The name is
 already filled in with disk image and the save as is blank.  So do
 I leave the name as disk image and put some meaningful name of my
 choice in the save as box?

 Also after I've created it I'll be wanting to put a file n there which
 I already have with all the info I want.  Will I be able to add that
 file (which is a plain text file at the moment) to the disk image?  Or
 should I start from a different place - I chose create blank disk
 image from the file/new option…

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 4/28/13, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 Hello Catherine,
 you can use disk utility to create a mountable disk image which you can
 set
 up as encrypted via a password. You can then move secret files onto this
 disk image and when finished eject the disk image. When you next open
 the
 disk image you enter the password which you defined when you created the
 disk image. When the disk image is not mounted its contents are
 invisible.

 To open the disk utility press Command+Shift+A in finder to open the list
 of
 applications. Locate the utilities folder and therein you will see the
 disk
 utility. Open that program and look for new in the file menu. Use that
 to
 create a new disk image with the desired level of encryption. This disk
 image will have the file extension DMG and as far as finder is concerned
 is
 just another file. When you subsequently open the DMG file you will be
 prompted for the password which you specified when you originally
 created
 the disk image. If you then press Shift+Command+C in finder you will see
 the
 disk image which now looks like an external disk. YOu open that and can
 then
 see all your secret files. The disk image is just like a regular disk so
 you
 can organise your secret files into folders.

 I hope the above will get you started. If necessary get back to me and I
 can
 send you detailed step by step instructions.

 I use this technology to store lots of confidential files containing
 back
 account and credit card information and it all works fine.

 Good luck

 Paul Hopewell
 On 28 Apr 2013, at 09:53, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'd like to have a file with lots of passwords and other sensitive
 information written in it.  Is it possible to password protect or
 encrypt an individual file with TextEdit or other tools already on my
 Macbook Pro, or if not, does anyone recommend an app or other way of
 doing this?  If this is possible with TextEdit/native stuff, could
 anyone give me or point me to basic instructions about how to do this?

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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Re: Help selecting text on websites

2013-05-05 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

THanks for the suggested podcast - have listened to some of that
series and they are very good.

Good news is after resetting the VO settings it's now reading the
selection properly, phew.  I've fiddled with the settings to get some
back how I wanted them and it's still reading properly.  STrange, but
glad it's working now.

Catherine

On 5/5/13, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very good, thanks very much. :-)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 4, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Josh, Judy, Catherine, and Others,

 You can find the podcast whose description Judy gave at John Panarese's
 Macfortheblind.com web pages, under the Demonstrations section:
 http://macfortheblind.com/Demonstrations
 You can either go to this web page and navigate by headings until you find
 the heading title for episode 16, or you can use item chooser menu to
 search for some of the text that Judy excerpted.

 HTH. Cheers,

 Esther


 On May 4, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I don't know of these are meant to be links or not, but they're not
 showing as such.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 4, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

 I wondered if this would help. Judy.

 Macfortheblind Audio Demonstration Series (Episode 16) Working with Text
 on the Web in Mountain Lion

 In my first podcast covering Mountain Lion, I demonstrate the 3 ways one
 can now select text on the web in Mountain Lion. MacfortheblindSelecting
 Text on the Web in Mountain Lion Demo.mp3



 On 4 May 2013, at 10:26, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Chris, you asked which website I was trying this on - have tried
 several, including charity job.co.uk but it seems to happen every time
 I try on whichever website.

 Thanks for the suggestion about resetting and the instructions on how
 to do so, I'll try this later today.  I think I'll still do some more
 experiments with the VO Shift C method as the sounds so convenient,
 I'm just concerned that what gets counted as a phrase may be too small
 for what I want, but I'll fiddle around and get used to it as I think
 this could be really handy.  I wonder if there's a way to set up a
 document in TextEdit or somewhere which could automatically act as a
 pasteboard, where anything copied would automatically get pasted
 there?  If so, I could do the VO Shift C thing several times to get
 what I want and then  go and save it and switch automatic pasting off…

 I'll come back later and let you know whether resetting VO settings
 helped…

 Many thanks for this and all the help you're giving me on this list,
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Re: Help selecting text on websites

2013-05-04 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

Chris, you asked which website I was trying this on - have tried
several, including charity job.co.uk but it seems to happen every time
I try on whichever website.

Thanks for the suggestion about resetting and the instructions on how
to do so, I'll try this later today.  I think I'll still do some more
experiments with the VO Shift C method as the sounds so convenient,
I'm just concerned that what gets counted as a phrase may be too small
for what I want, but I'll fiddle around and get used to it as I think
this could be really handy.  I wonder if there's a way to set up a
document in TextEdit or somewhere which could automatically act as a
pasteboard, where anything copied would automatically get pasted
there?  If so, I could do the VO Shift C thing several times to get
what I want and then  go and save it and switch automatic pasting off…

I'll come back later and let you know whether resetting VO settings helped…

Many thanks for this and all the help you're giving me on this list,
Catherine

On 5/3/13, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes resetting fixes most problems.

 On 5/3/13, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah there is a way to reset everything. When in  VoiceOver utility, go
 into
 the file menu and there's a reset option. From there you can reset the
 custom settings to default settings, reset all settings  and other such
 things. Hth.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 3, 2013, at 4:54 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

 I have precisely the same problem with headings .
 This and other unpredictability's  , including constraints on copying
 amounts of text to one paragraph, is why I never ever recommend the VO
 Enter
 method of copying from web pages. It is excessively clunky also in terms
 of
 keystrokes.

 The other selection and copying methods are in my experience far more
 predictable and reliable. Especially line selection via quick nav and
 the
 rota and or shift VO C.

 Because I cannot replicate your general difficulties with  either the
 announcement of selected text or using shift VO C it is difficult to
 know
 what to suggest.

 I am not sure if there is a setting in Voiceover Utility to return
 settings
 to default, if so this might be worth trying.
 Also perhaps somebody could offer you a set of portable Voiceover
 settings
 to apply which may correct your difficulties. I am not sure how to do
 this
 but would be happy to do this if it helped.
 I may not be the best though as I am using an iMac with extended
 keyboard
 and using numpad commander. My settings may not suit somebody using a
 MacBook. I also have keys set up in keyboard shortcuts to run programs
 like
 Eyepal which you almost certainly do not have.
 Assuming you can eventually get Voiceover to behave properly you should
 find
 Shift VO C the easiest method  as you do not have to select or even use
 the
 copy command, it is all done with the one keystroke. I use it to get
 around
 the copying of heading text problem on web pages frequently for example.

 Hope that you resolve this.


 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
 Sent: 03 May 2013 09:33
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites

 Hi Chris,

 Ok, when on a web page and with Quick Nav on I pressed h to get to a
 heading, then VO plus Return.  But I just get a beep which indicates I'm
 trying to do something which can't be done.  I tried then moving
 somewhere
 after the heading and pressing VO Return again, then copying and pasting
 anyway just to check, and nothing was selected.  I tried with Quick Nav
 switched off as well and had the same results.  Have you any ideas
 what's
 going on here?  It's very frustrating and I can't help thinking I just
 must
 be doing something wrong but I don't for the life of me know what.  I
 went
 into keyboard help to make sure I am pressing the correct keys and it
 says
 wen I press Option Control Return select item so I am pressing the
 right
 things.any ideas?

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:
 There's a way easier way to do this.

 Start by placing Voiceover on the item you need to begin selecting
 from, then hit vo+return.  Now use your vo navigation and go to the
 end of what you need selected.  Then hit vo+return again.  Now
 everything between those

 chunks should be selected.  Now just hit command+C to copy.

 It took me quite some time to figure this out, but now that I have, it
 usually never fails.

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites


 Hi David,

 I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to
 clipboard command and was hoping I could use

Re: Help selecting text on websites

2013-05-03 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Chris,

Ok, when on a web page and with Quick Nav on I pressed h to get to a
heading, then VO plus Return.  But I just get a beep which indicates
I'm trying to do something which can't be done.  I tried then moving
somewhere after the heading and pressing VO Return again, then copying
and pasting anyway just to check, and nothing was selected.  I tried
with Quick Nav switched off as well and had the same results.  Have
you any ideas what's going on here?  It's very frustrating and I can't
help thinking I just must be doing something wrong but I don't for the
life of me know what.  I went into keyboard help to make sure I am
pressing the correct keys and it says wen I press Option Control
Return select item so I am pressing the right things…any ideas?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:
 There's a way easier way to do this.

 Start by placing Voiceover on the item you need to begin selecting from,
 then hit vo+return.  Now use your vo navigation and go to the end of what
 you need selected.  Then hit vo+return again.  Now everything between those

 chunks should be selected.  Now just hit command+C to copy.

 It took me quite some time to figure this out, but now that I have, it
 usually never fails.

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites


 Hi David,

 I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to
 clipboard command and was hoping I could use this to copy quite a
 large chunk of text to the clipboard.  I started VO reading with a two
 finger swipe down and when it got to the end of what I wanted two
 finger tapped to stop it.  I silenced it a bit too late and the last
 thing it said was list 2 items which was after the text I wanted,
 and when I pasted the result I just had list two items.  I was then
 hoping I could move by paragraph and copy those one at a time but
 paragraphs doesn't seem to be an option in the web rotor.  I haven't
 tried moving by static text as I assume, because there are links mixed
 into this largely textual bit of the page, that wouldn't work all the
 way through.

 What I want to select is a heading, then a few links, and then a large
 chunk of text which has some links scattered throughout.  Is it
 possible to select all this in one go using either the interact with
 text thing, or the copy last phrase to clipboard thing?  What I mean
 by all in one go is pressing any combination of keystrokes several
 times to select the stuff without having to select first a heading,
 copy and paste that, then go and select /copy/paste some text, then
 the links etc.  If not I'll probably use the quick nav, press shift
 down arrow method just press it lots of times and see what the results
 are when I paste it (as VO isn't announcing the selection).

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 5/1/13, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari
 announcing
 text that I had selected no matter what method I used including lines
 and
 words selected from the Web rota.
 There appears to be a problem then with some Voiceover settings where it

 is
 not announcing all selected text. This appears however to be an issue
 not
 confined to you as others on this list appear also to have encountered
 this
 problem.
 Very peculiar as I cannot reproduce this difficulty at all.

 I am using voiceover with medium verbosity. As far as I am aware I have
 not
 altered anything else in verbosity.

 David Griffith.



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Re: Help selecting text on websites

2013-05-02 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi David,

I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to
clipboard command and was hoping I could use this to copy quite a
large chunk of text to the clipboard.  I started VO reading with a two
finger swipe down and when it got to the end of what I wanted two
finger tapped to stop it.  I silenced it a bit too late and the last
thing it said was list 2 items which was after the text I wanted,
and when I pasted the result I just had list two items.  I was then
hoping I could move by paragraph and copy those one at a time but
paragraphs doesn't seem to be an option in the web rotor.  I haven't
tried moving by static text as I assume, because there are links mixed
into this largely textual bit of the page, that wouldn't work all the
way through.

What I want to select is a heading, then a few links, and then a large
chunk of text which has some links scattered throughout.  Is it
possible to select all this in one go using either the interact with
text thing, or the copy last phrase to clipboard thing?  What I mean
by all in one go is pressing any combination of keystrokes several
times to select the stuff without having to select first a heading,
copy and paste that, then go and select /copy/paste some text, then
the links etc.  If not I'll probably use the quick nav, press shift
down arrow method just press it lots of times and see what the results
are when I paste it (as VO isn't announcing the selection).

Thanks,
Catherine

On 5/1/13, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari announcing
 text that I had selected no matter what method I used including lines and
 words selected from the Web rota.
 There appears to be a problem then with some Voiceover settings where it is
 not announcing all selected text. This appears however to be an issue not
 confined to you as others on this list appear also to have encountered this
 problem.
 Very peculiar as I cannot reproduce this difficulty at all.

 I am using voiceover with medium verbosity. As far as I am aware I have
 not
 altered anything else in verbosity.

 David Griffith.



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Re: Password protecting or encrypting a file?

2013-04-30 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Paul,

Thanks for this suggestion and instructions.  I'm unsure about
something though.  When I go to create a new disk image there are two
edit fields.  One is called save as and the other is called name.
I'm not sure what the difference between these is.  The name is
already filled in with disk image and the save as is blank.  So do
I leave the name as disk image and put some meaningful name of my
choice in the save as box?

Also after I've created it I'll be wanting to put a file n there which
I already have with all the info I want.  Will I be able to add that
file (which is a plain text file at the moment) to the disk image?  Or
should I start from a different place - I chose create blank disk
image from the file/new option…

Thanks,
Catherine

On 4/28/13, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 Hello Catherine,
 you can use disk utility to create a mountable disk image which you can set
 up as encrypted via a password. You can then move secret files onto this
 disk image and when finished eject the disk image. When you next open the
 disk image you enter the password which you defined when you created the
 disk image. When the disk image is not mounted its contents are invisible.

 To open the disk utility press Command+Shift+A in finder to open the list of
 applications. Locate the utilities folder and therein you will see the disk
 utility. Open that program and look for new in the file menu. Use that to
 create a new disk image with the desired level of encryption. This disk
 image will have the file extension DMG and as far as finder is concerned is
 just another file. When you subsequently open the DMG file you will be
 prompted for the password which you specified when you originally created
 the disk image. If you then press Shift+Command+C in finder you will see the
 disk image which now looks like an external disk. YOu open that and can then
 see all your secret files. The disk image is just like a regular disk so you
 can organise your secret files into folders.

 I hope the above will get you started. If necessary get back to me and I can
 send you detailed step by step instructions.

 I use this technology to store lots of confidential files containing back
 account and credit card information and it all works fine.

 Good luck

 Paul Hopewell
 On 28 Apr 2013, at 09:53, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'd like to have a file with lots of passwords and other sensitive
 information written in it.  Is it possible to password protect or
 encrypt an individual file with TextEdit or other tools already on my
 Macbook Pro, or if not, does anyone recommend an app or other way of
 doing this?  If this is possible with TextEdit/native stuff, could
 anyone give me or point me to basic instructions about how to do this?

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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Help selecting text on websites

2013-04-30 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'm having trouble selecting text to copy from web pages and wonder if
anyone can help me.  According to my understanding of what I've read
in the Voiceover manualI'm supposed to (with Quick Nav on) choose an
item e.g. words from the rotor by pressing up and right arrow, or up
and left arrow.  THis I did.  Then I'm supposed to press down arrow to
move through the words which I can do.  But it says to select an item
press Shift down arrow.  I don't understand whether I'm supposed to
press shift down after I hear the word I want to select, or press
Shift down several times, selecting word by word as I do so.

Either way, I've been messing around with it, and when I press Shift
down VO doesn't say anything at all.  But I press Command c anyway to
copy and then paste into notes with varying results.  It seems,
despite having chosen words from the rotor, when I pressed Shift down
once I got several lines of text.  And sometimes I don't get anything.

I'm not convinced I've understood the instructions correctly.  Could
anyone explain how to select text while on a web page to me?  I'm fine
with selecting stuff with standard OSx commands but presumably these
don't work on websites as I can't get them to work in that situation.
Also when I go into VO keyboard help and press Shift down it doesn't
say anything and I would  have expected it to say select item or
something if I've understood  this correctly.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Navigating to mages o webpages

2013-04-23 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have a look at that.  The interesting
thing is, using a different screenreader I can pick up on the images.
I realise this list is for discussing Mac which is why I didm't
mention that in the first place.  It just made me wonder whether there
was some other way of getting VO to pick up on the images.

Thanks,
Catherine

On 4/21/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try the weather underground site. the coder probably of your site  did not
 code the images correctly. I'd give you the link but I'm in the middle of
 a24 hour black out of all social circles including twitter and facebook. I
 think it's http://weatherunderground.com if not google weather
 underground

 The site is very easy to navigate and use.

 Take care.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm trying to use the Met Office's website to look at a weather
 forecast for my area.  There are images for each day, I know this
 because a sighted person has confirmed it, but even though in
 Voiceover Utility I have navigate images set to always, according to
 Voiceover there is only one image on the page which is the
 advertisement.  Is there anything I can do to make VO recognise that
 there are these images?

 Thanks,
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Re: Paprika help please

2013-04-22 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Donald,

Thank you this worked.  I also discovered that if I just press
spacebar on the recipe this opens it too.

Thanks,
Catherine

On 4/21/13, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote:
 Hi Catherine,

 How I do this is to place the VO cursor on the recipe I want then use
 VO-Shift-m to bring up the context menu and then press open.  Then VO
 right and you'll see a recipe scroll area which has all the information
 you need.

 Hope this helps,

 Dónal
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 18:24, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Is anyone here using the Paprika recipe software on your Mac?  I've
 installed it and imported some recipes, but at the moment I just can't
 find a way to actually open/read a recipe.  I interact with the table
 of recipes and move onto one of them.  I then either do VO space, or
 double tap the trackpad, or press up and down arrows with quick nav
 on, and I get an error sort of beep and VO says the name of recipe
 dimmed.  I've also tried binging the mouse to the VO cursor with VO
 Command f5 and then clicking with VO shift space, and this doesn't do
 anything either.

 Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
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Navigating to mages o webpages

2013-04-21 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'm trying to use the Met Office's website to look at a weather
forecast for my area.  There are images for each day, I know this
because a sighted person has confirmed it, but even though in
Voiceover Utility I have navigate images set to always, according to
Voiceover there is only one image on the page which is the
advertisement.  Is there anything I can do to make VO recognise that
there are these images?

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Paprika help please

2013-04-21 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Is anyone here using the Paprika recipe software on your Mac?  I've
installed it and imported some recipes, but at the moment I just can't
find a way to actually open/read a recipe.  I interact with the table
of recipes and move onto one of them.  I then either do VO space, or
double tap the trackpad, or press up and down arrows with quick nav
on, and I get an error sort of beep and VO says the name of recipe
dimmed.  I've also tried binging the mouse to the VO cursor with VO
Command f5 and then clicking with VO shift space, and this doesn't do
anything either.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Help understanding/organising bookmarks in Safari

2013-04-20 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'm struggling to understand how the bookmarks are organised in Safari
and wonder if anyone can help me.  Am I right in thinking that in
order to get to any bookmarks not contained in the bookmarks bar I
need to choose show all bookmarks from the bookmarks menu?  I would
like to create several folders, maybe the easiest thing would be to
put these folders on the bookmarks bar. Because when I go to show all
bookmarks I am confused by the ensuing window.  I am never sure in
this window when I need to interact with something and when I need to
select it, or if merely by moving onto it I have selected it.  I keep
selecting bookmarks thinking this will take me to that website but it
seems to select the text and think I want to rename it.  Other than
pressing VO space or double tapping on it, I can't think how else to
say I want to go to this website now.  Can anyone help me get my head
round this?  If not I guess I'll just have to put everything in the
bookmarks bar but this seems a bit messy.  Is there any way of having
bookmarks folders showing from the bookmarks menu, or does it only
show the bookmarks bar, and anything other than that you have to go to
show all bookmarks?

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Re: Downloading files in Safari

2013-04-20 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

Thanks this does help, will press Command option l in future and see
what's going on.

Catherine

On 4/19/13, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote:
 Sorry,
 That was meant to be command option l.

 Cheers,

 Trevor

 -Original Message-
 From: trevor
 Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:32 PM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Downloading files in Safari

 Hi Catherine,
 I normally press command alt l, and that tells you what is downloading.
 if you tab it brings up the table of things that are downloading and things
 that have downloaded, tab again and if it says stop, it is still
 downloading
 but, if it says something like find in finder, then it is finished
 downloading.

 Hope this makes sense and helps.

 Trevor
 -Original Message-
 From: Catherine Turner
 Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:04 AM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Downloading files in Safari

 Hi,

 A few times when I've downloaded files in Safari I've not been sure
 it's happening and clicked the link again just in case, then I get
 several copies of the file.  I guess I should just get used to knowing
 it will be downloading, but I wonder is there something I'm missing in
 picking up a file is being downloaded?  I mean should there be a
 progress indicator or something?  Or is it possible to set up a sound
 when files are being downloaded or something?

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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Downloading files in Safari

2013-04-19 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

A few times when I've downloaded files in Safari I've not been sure
it's happening and clicked the link again just in case, then I get
several copies of the file.  I guess I should just get used to knowing
it will be downloading, but I wonder is there something I'm missing in
picking up a file is being downloaded?  I mean should there be a
progress indicator or something?  Or is it possible to set up a sound
when files are being downloaded or something?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Entering Unicode characters

2013-04-19 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Esther,

I will look into Text Expander, it may be useful for me.  It seems
sometimes my substitutions are working and sometimes not, even taking
into account cursoring up then down again, I must get someone sighted
to look at what I'm doing ad see whether the substitutions are being
made or not.  I can't work out any pattern to what's happening.  Maybe
the semicolon immediately followed by an a only works when there's a
space immediately before the semicolon as well which isn't much use
for that particular substitution.  That does seem to be the case
actually, if I do a space then semicolon a it gets submitted but not
in the middle of a word.  And there is no space before the semicolon
in the table of substitutions n preferences…I should maybe choose a
different string to substitute...I must have a look at those other
apps as well.

Yes I can make use of the numpad on my Maltron keyboard, I haven't
ventured much into the yet smile

Thanks,
Catherine


On 4/16/13, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 Hi Catherine,

 I should have thought of having you move away and then back to the word or
 line in question to check that substitution was being done. The issue is
 that the screen dynamically updates, and your screen reader is telling you
 what it it read when you first navigated to that text.  It doesn't refresh
 the content until you move off and then back on again.  This can be one of
 the problems in using iOS apps, if one of the elements changes but the
 developer hasn't had the screen do a refresh.

 With third party text substitution software, there's generally a setting
 enabled by default to have a distinctive alert sound played when a
 substitution is made.  This is what I hear when I use TextExpander on my Mac
 or TextExpander Touch on my iOS devices and a substitution has been made.
 It's also why, when I suggested that some list members might want to look
 into the aText text expansion software 15-day free trial version, I
 suggested that they go into the preferences pane (Command-comma), and change
 the default notification sound from click to something more distinctive.

 By the way, I think that part of my description of the aText text
 substitution software got cut off in the original post.  I meant to detail
 one of my reasons for preferring the TextExpander interface is that it's
 easy to review the list of substituted strings, whereas in aText you get
 the list of your defined text snippets, but you have to VO-J to the detailed
 panel for editing, in order to read the substituted text string.  On the
 other hand, aText sounds like a bargain for what it does at $4.99 -- seven
 times less than the TextExpander list price -- especially since it can now
 be used for synced Dropbox content, and I think also Google Drive.  As I
 said, I hope some other list member checks this out in more detail from the
 aText web page:
 http://www.trankynam.com/atext/
 I also read at the web page that some of the functionality of being able to
 do text expansion involving AppleScripts and shell scripts may be limited if
 you get the version from the Mac App store instead of the one at the
 developer's site.  That's because of the restrictions placed on software in
 the Mac App store.  While the policy limits the ability of malicious
 software to take over other software, it also limits the ability of your
 software to use certain system-wide actions, or bits of other software.
 It's difficult for me to do more than a casual test of the aText software
 because I already have TextExpander running for most of my text expansion.

 Catherine, I read that the Maltron one-handed keyboards also have a separate
 numpad.  I don't know how convenient it is for you to use the number pad,
 but you could also customized those keys by turning on NumPad Commander in
 VoiceOver Utility, if that is a desirable option for you.  I'm deleting some
 of the earlier messages in this thread, to keep the post from being too
 long.

 HTH.  Cheers,

 Esther


 On Apr 15, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Catherine Turner wrote:

 Hi Esther,

 Ah, I have progress.  It seems the substitution was being made but
 Voiceover wasn't necessarily reporting it accurately.  I discovered
 that if I did the substitution and then went down onto a new line and
 then cursored back up again VO would read it accurately.  THis also
 happens with the other (default) substitutions such as the copyright
 sign - if I type left paren c right paren and then cursor left to
 check it VO still reports as left parent c right paren.  But if I
 cursor up or down to a different line and then back again VO reports
 the copyright sign.  So I guess it takes VO a while to pick up on it
 or I need to refresh/refocus VO somehow to make it realise it has
 changed.  Well I can be confident it's working now.  I guess I just
 need to make sure that checkbox for allowing substitutes is checked in
 any apps I want to use it in.  Thank you very much for your help.  And
 yes, by the way, my

Automatically interacting with HTML content?

2013-04-16 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Here I am with another newbie question…it seems sometimes in Safari VO
automatically interacts with HTML content, and other times I have to
keep making it interact.  Is there any reason/pattern to this
behaviour or is it just one of those things?  Is there any way of
making it automatically interact every time a page loads?  SOmetimes
it does and sometimes it doesn't, and I can't work out any
reason/pattern…

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Entering Unicode characters

2013-04-16 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Esther,

Ah, I have progress.  It seems the substitution was being made but
Voiceover wasn't necessarily reporting it accurately.  I discovered
that if I did the substitution and then went down onto a new line and
then cursored back up again VO would read it accurately.  THis also
happens with the other (default) substitutions such as the copyright
sign - if I type left paren c right paren and then cursor left to
check it VO still reports as left parent c right paren.  But if I
cursor up or down to a different line and then back again VO reports
the copyright sign.  So I guess it takes VO a while to pick up on it
or I need to refresh/refocus VO somehow to make it realise it has
changed.  Well I can be confident it's working now.  I guess I just
need to make sure that checkbox for allowing substitutes is checked in
any apps I want to use it in.  Thank you very much for your help.  And
yes, by the way, my Windows key is functioning as the Command key.

Catherine

On 4/15/13, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 Hi Catherine and Colin,

 I thought that Catherine was probably using TextEdit, but the instructions I
 gave her should have worked for Mail (and notes in Mail), too. Catherine,
 when you type in your first string, just type the semi-colon and the a, and
 then press tab.  Then, in the next field, paste in the apostrophe with
 Command+v and press return.  You want your string to end with a character,
 and you want your substituted text to also end with a character.  If you're
 typing a space after the semi-colon and the a in the table, that might be
 the problem.

 If your Mac is accepting letters and key combinations from your Maltron
 keyboard, then you should be able to do the character substitution.  Can you
 check whether you can use the Windows key of your Maltron keyboard as a
 Command key so that you can copy with Command+c and paste with Command+v?
 That's usually what works with PC keyboards that have a Windows key.

 If I type a note with ;a (where I omit the quotation marks, and where I've
 changed the substitution characters to match the ones you've used), as soon
 as I press the spacebar after typing the a, the string turns into an
 apostrophe for me.  This should work for you, too.

 By the way, is it easier for you to repeat using the arrow keys to move to
 the Add button, or would you prefer to use item chooser menu
 (Control+Option+i) and type a d to move to the Add button?

 HTH.  Cheers,

 Esther



 On Apr 14, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

 Hi sorry I've got nothing about the coding but you said you did not have
 textedit!
 But if your using a MBA MBP textedit is already on there to use!

 On 15 Apr 2013, at 08:31, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Esther,

 Thanks for these instructions.  I haven't been able to get the text
 substitution to work though.  This is most likely something I've done
 wrong but I can't figure out what.

 I haven't got Textedit at the moment but I was trying it out with
 Notes.  In notes if I go to edit, Substitutions, Show Substitutions,
 the checkbox Text replacement s checked, and I press the Text
 Preferences button.  In the ensuing preferences the use symbol and
 text substitution checkbox is selected.  I pressed the add button and
 used the string ;a that's semicolon a space.  I've tried other strings
 too ad can't get any of them to work.  When I interact with the table
 of substitutions now at the bottom is the one I've added and the
 checkbox on the left of it is checked.  I've gone in and out of the
 preferences a few times and it's still there so I guess it's saved.
 But it doesn't appear in notes when I type it.  I tried out some of
 the other substitutions from that table like left paren c right paren
 for copyright symbol and it works.  I can only think that there's some
 small thing I haven't noticed but not sure what.  Let me know if you
 get any ideas.  I'll see if I can go to a Mac store though it's a bit
 awkward because they're quite noisy and don't know if there'd be a
 space I could set my stuff up with a desk I could get under (I'm in a
 wheelchair).  Anyway at least I have the unicode entry working now...

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 4/14/13, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 Hi Catherine,

 If you simply need to type an apostrophe, then the quickest way to
 enable
 you to do that is to use your Mac's facility for keyboard substitution.
 This will let you continue to use your Maltron keyboard, but give you
 access
 to the apostrophe character when you type some other string.  Here's how
 to
 do this.  I'm going to set up a shortcut so that the 2-letter
 combination
 ;l when typed together, with no space between the semi-colon and the
 l,
 will be substituted with an apostrophe character.  So the substitution
 will
 use the two character groups:
 ;l '
 (that's semi-colon+l, a space separator, and the apostrophe character,
 so
 you can copy and paste).  You should choose a convenient key

Re: Entering Unicode characters

2013-04-15 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Esther,

Thanks for these instructions.  I haven't been able to get the text
substitution to work though.  This is most likely something I've done
wrong but I can't figure out what.

I haven't got Textedit at the moment but I was trying it out with
Notes.  In notes if I go to edit, Substitutions, Show Substitutions,
the checkbox Text replacement s checked, and I press the Text
Preferences button.  In the ensuing preferences the use symbol and
text substitution checkbox is selected.  I pressed the add button and
used the string ;a that's semicolon a space.  I've tried other strings
too ad can't get any of them to work.  When I interact with the table
of substitutions now at the bottom is the one I've added and the
checkbox on the left of it is checked.  I've gone in and out of the
preferences a few times and it's still there so I guess it's saved.
But it doesn't appear in notes when I type it.  I tried out some of
the other substitutions from that table like left paren c right paren
for copyright symbol and it works.  I can only think that there's some
small thing I haven't noticed but not sure what.  Let me know if you
get any ideas.  I'll see if I can go to a Mac store though it's a bit
awkward because they're quite noisy and don't know if there'd be a
space I could set my stuff up with a desk I could get under (I'm in a
wheelchair).  Anyway at least I have the unicode entry working now...

Thanks,
Catherine

On 4/14/13, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 Hi Catherine,

 If you simply need to type an apostrophe, then the quickest way to enable
 you to do that is to use your Mac's facility for keyboard substitution.
 This will let you continue to use your Maltron keyboard, but give you access
 to the apostrophe character when you type some other string.  Here's how to
 do this.  I'm going to set up a shortcut so that the 2-letter combination
 ;l when typed together, with no space between the semi-colon and the l,
 will be substituted with an apostrophe character.  So the substitution will
 use the two character groups:
 ;l '
 (that's semi-colon+l, a space separator, and the apostrophe character, so
 you can copy and paste).  You should choose a convenient key or key
 combination that is easy for you to type on your Maltron keyboard in place
 of the semi-colon+l that I use in my example. Those two keys are next to
 each other on the Mac keyboard, and it's unlikely that you'll type a
 semi-colon+another letter without an intervening space in regular usage.

 I think the following instructions will minimize the number of keystrokes,
 but you'll have to use sticky keys.  I'll assume that you have the TextEdit
 application open.  Before you start the steps below, use Command+C to copy
 the apostrophe character to your clipboard so you are ready to paste it in.
 Here is the apostrophe character again on a line by itself:
 '
 1. Control+F2 to move to the menu bar
 2. Press e to move to the Edit menu
 3. Down arrow into the Edit menu
 4. Press s u to move to Substitutions
 5. Right arrow to the Show Substitutions submenu option, then press
 return
 6. In the Substitutions window, right arrow through, and make sure that
 the Text Replacement box is checked. Continue to right arrow to the Text
 Preferences button and press it (with your up+down arrow keys if QuickNav
 is on, or with VO-Space). If your keyboard is set up so that you can use
 NumPad commander and this is turned on, I think you can also press the 5
 key.
 7. You'll be on the Text pane of the Language  Text preferences.  Right
 arrow in the pane. The first entry in the pane should be a check box for
 Use symbol and text substitution that should be checked by default. If it
 isn't already checked, check this box. Then continue to right arrow to the
 Add button
 8. Press the Add button to append an entry to the Substitutions table
 9. Type the letters you want to use for substituting (e.g.,semi-colon+l, in
 the above example)
 10. Press tab, then type or paste the character you want substituted.  Here
 is where you can press Command+v to paste in the apostrophe symbol. Then
 press return
 11. Press Command+w to close the Text Preferences window
 12. Press Command+w to close the Substitutions window

 You should now be able to type the letter combination you selected, and have
 it replaced with an apostrophe.  You'll have to type your letter combination
 and then press space for the substitution to be made.  This means that
 you'll have to press the left arrow key or the delete key to move back.

 HTH.  Cheers,

 Esther

 On Apr 13, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Catherine Turner wrote:

 Hello Esther,

 Wow, thank you muchly for your comprehensive reply here.  I'm sure
 there'll be something in here to help me.  I'll have a play with these
 things but in the meantime If I explain further my problem maybe
 you'll have an idea...

 Basically my keyboard, a Maltron right handed keyboard, is really
 designed for Windows but seems to work largely in a usable way

Re: Entering Unicode characters

2013-04-15 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Ah, silly me, had thought because it wasn't in the Dock, and also
wasn't sure if it was of the optional things I didn't pay for when I
ordered the Macbook, thought I didm't have it.  But it is in
Launchpad, thanks for pointing that out...

Catherine

On 4/15/13, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 Hi sorry I've got nothing about the coding but you said you did not have
 textedit!
 But if your using a MBA MBP textedit is already on there to use!

 On 15 Apr 2013, at 08:31, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Esther,

 Thanks for these instructions.  I haven't been able to get the text
 substitution to work though.  This is most likely something I've done
 wrong but I can't figure out what.

 I haven't got Textedit at the moment but I was trying it out with
 Notes.  In notes if I go to edit, Substitutions, Show Substitutions,
 the checkbox Text replacement s checked, and I press the Text
 Preferences button.  In the ensuing preferences the use symbol and
 text substitution checkbox is selected.  I pressed the add button and
 used the string ;a that's semicolon a space.  I've tried other strings
 too ad can't get any of them to work.  When I interact with the table
 of substitutions now at the bottom is the one I've added and the
 checkbox on the left of it is checked.  I've gone in and out of the
 preferences a few times and it's still there so I guess it's saved.
 But it doesn't appear in notes when I type it.  I tried out some of
 the other substitutions from that table like left paren c right paren
 for copyright symbol and it works.  I can only think that there's some
 small thing I haven't noticed but not sure what.  Let me know if you
 get any ideas.  I'll see if I can go to a Mac store though it's a bit
 awkward because they're quite noisy and don't know if there'd be a
 space I could set my stuff up with a desk I could get under (I'm in a
 wheelchair).  Anyway at least I have the unicode entry working now...

 Thanks,
 Catherine

 On 4/14/13, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 Hi Catherine,

 If you simply need to type an apostrophe, then the quickest way to
 enable
 you to do that is to use your Mac's facility for keyboard substitution.
 This will let you continue to use your Maltron keyboard, but give you
 access
 to the apostrophe character when you type some other string.  Here's how
 to
 do this.  I'm going to set up a shortcut so that the 2-letter
 combination
 ;l when typed together, with no space between the semi-colon and the
 l,
 will be substituted with an apostrophe character.  So the substitution
 will
 use the two character groups:
 ;l '
 (that's semi-colon+l, a space separator, and the apostrophe character,
 so
 you can copy and paste).  You should choose a convenient key or key
 combination that is easy for you to type on your Maltron keyboard in
 place
 of the semi-colon+l that I use in my example. Those two keys are next to
 each other on the Mac keyboard, and it's unlikely that you'll type a
 semi-colon+another letter without an intervening space in regular usage.

 I think the following instructions will minimize the number of
 keystrokes,
 but you'll have to use sticky keys.  I'll assume that you have the
 TextEdit
 application open.  Before you start the steps below, use Command+C to
 copy
 the apostrophe character to your clipboard so you are ready to paste it
 in.
 Here is the apostrophe character again on a line by itself:
 '
 1. Control+F2 to move to the menu bar
 2. Press e to move to the Edit menu
 3. Down arrow into the Edit menu
 4. Press s u to move to Substitutions
 5. Right arrow to the Show Substitutions submenu option, then press
 return
 6. In the Substitutions window, right arrow through, and make sure
 that
 the Text Replacement box is checked. Continue to right arrow to the
 Text
 Preferences button and press it (with your up+down arrow keys if
 QuickNav
 is on, or with VO-Space). If your keyboard is set up so that you can use
 NumPad commander and this is turned on, I think you can also press the
 5
 key.
 7. You'll be on the Text pane of the Language  Text preferences.
 Right
 arrow in the pane. The first entry in the pane should be a check box for
 Use symbol and text substitution that should be checked by default. If
 it
 isn't already checked, check this box. Then continue to right arrow to
 the
 Add button
 8. Press the Add button to append an entry to the Substitutions
 table
 9. Type the letters you want to use for substituting (e.g.,semi-colon+l,
 in
 the above example)
 10. Press tab, then type or paste the character you want substituted.
 Here
 is where you can press Command+v to paste in the apostrophe symbol. Then
 press return
 11. Press Command+w to close the Text Preferences window
 12. Press Command+w to close the Substitutions window

 You should now be able to type the letter combination you selected, and
 have
 it replaced with an apostrophe.  You'll have to type your letter
 combination

Re: Help changing keystroke in QuickNav Commander

2013-04-15 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Thank you, this worked, phew.  Though it doesn't have the effect I was
hoping for.  I was wanting to press a key to skip past a load of links
and get to the next non-link stuff on a page, I guess this isn't the
keystroke I'm after, perhaps there's another one, I'll keep looking...

Thanks,
Catherine

On 4/13/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello. Hit the add button in the qn single key strokes option, then hit d
 then vo right to the menu and choose what you want. Since I don't know
 where it is in the menus as those are set to defaults, good luck finding
 it.

 Good luck.
 On Apr 13, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to change one of the single key presses used in Quick Nav and
 in attempting to, seem to have removed the command I wanted to alter.

 I want to use the letter d to move to the next different item.  At the
 moment that is used to find previous checkbox.  I don't particularly
 mind about having a keystroke at all for previous checkbox.  In
 attempting to change this I've gone wrong somewhere and e item find
 next different item has disappeared from the list of commands.
 Please can anyone help me how to get it back in there and then how do
 I assign the letter d to go to next different item?

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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Re: Entering Unicode characters

2013-04-14 Thread Catherine Turner
 the
 virtual keyboard for accented characters in languages other than English was
 painful.  While TextExpander Touch on iOS only works with apps built to
 support it, any note-taking app worth its salt on iOS will have TextExpander
 support built in.

 There are also free trial demos for TextExpander on the Mac.  Try the entry
 at the MacUpdate site:
 • TextExpander for Mac  –  On-the-fly typing accelerator
 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/19147/textexpander

 The Mac App Store entry for aText is:
 • aText ($4.99) by Tran Ky Nam Software (but remember this hasn't been
 checked out in detail yet)
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/atext/id488566438?mt=12

 Finally, if you do want more information on using the Character VIewer with
 VoiceOver, there are some extensive AppleVis forum posts by Nicolai
 Svendsen, who I think is still on this list, and myself.  Here's a link to
 the forum discussion page in question:
 • using the special character itim pallet
 http://www.applevis.com/forum/os-x-mac-app-discussion/using-special-character-itim-pallet
 In case that link wraps, here's the shortened version:
 http://bit.ly/Xzbs5x

 HTH.  I'll add the list of Special Symbols and Characters typed with Option
 key combinations below my signature.

 Cheers,

 Esther

 Special Symbols and Characters on the regular Mac Keyboard

 Categories:

 1. Currency Symbols
 2. Trademark and Copyright Symbols
 3. Apple Symbol
 4. Math and Greek Character Symbols
 5. Copyediting, typesetting, and miscellaneous symbols
 6. Punctuation marks: right and left quotation marks for English and
 other languages; inverted punctuation marks for Spanish

 Each entry gives the symbol followed by the descriptive name and the
 keyboard combination to press for the symbol.  Additional comments
 about context for symbol usage may follow (in parentheses).

 Currency Symbols (in addition to $ = Shift+4)

 ¢  cents  Option+4
 £  pound  Option+3 (on a British keyboard Option+3 is # -- the number
  or hash sign that is Shift+3 on U.S. keyboards, while Shift+3 is the
  pound sign)
 ¥  yenOption+y
 €  Euro   Option+Shift+2 (on a British keyboard this is Option+2)

 Trademark and Copyright Symbols

 ©  copyright  Option+g
 ®  registered Option+r
 ™ trademark   Option+2

 Apple Symbol

   apple  Option+Shift+K

 Math and Greek Character Symbols

 ±  plus-or-minus  Option+Shift+Equals (Shift+Equals is plus)
 µ  micro sign Option+m  (Greek letter mu), units of microns
 π   piOption+p  (Greek letter pi)
 √   square root   Option+v
 ÷   divided byOption+/ (slash is key to left of right-hand shift key)
 ·   middle dotOption+Shift+9 (sign for multiplication)
 ≈   almost equals Option+x
 ≠   not equalsOption+= (equals is key to right of delete key)
 ∞   infinity  Option+5
 ≤   less than or equalOption+comma (Shift+comma is the less than
 sign)
 ≥   greater than or equal Option+period (Shift+period is greater
 than)
 Å   Angstrom sign Option+Shift+a  (units of Angstroms)
 ∑  summation sign Option+w
 °   degree sign   Option+Shift+8
 ∂   partial differential  Option+d (calculus)
 ∫   integral  Option+b (calculus)
 Ω   Omega Option+z (units of solid angle, calculus)

 Copyediting, typesetting, and miscellaneous symbols

 ‡   double dagger Option+Shift+7 (used for footnotes)
 ¶   pilcrow sign  Option+7 (marks paragraphs)
 §   section sign  Option+6 (marks sections)
 •   bullet sign   Option+8 (marks list items)
 –  en dash  Option+hyphen (used for spans like pages 5–12, years 2009–2012,
 and for parenthetic remarks)
 — em dash  Option+Shift+hyphen (used for parenthetic remarks, and to set off
 the source of quotations)

 Punctuation marks: right and left quotation marks for English and other
 languages; inverted punctuation marks for Spanish

 ‘   left single quotation markOption+right bracket
 ’   right single quotation mark   Option+Shift+right bracket
 “   left double quotation markOption+left bracket
 ”   right double quotation mark   Option+Shift+left bracket
 «   left pointing double angle quotation mark Option+backslash
 »   right pointing double angle quotation markOption+Shift+backslash
 ‹   single left pointing angle quotation mark Option+Shift+3
 ›   single right pointing angle quotation markOption+Shift+4
 ¡   inverted exclamation mark Option+1
 ¿   inverted question markOption+Shift+slash (Shift+/ is question
 mark)
 …  ellipsis   Option+semi-colon


 On 13 Apr 2013, at 09:19, Catherine Turner wrote:

 Hi,

 Has anyone ever entered characters by entering the unicode numbers?
 To cut a long story short I have a need to do this and cannot get it
 to work.  I found some instructions about it and think I followed them
 properly,and now I am suppose to be able to hold down the option key
 and enter

Help changing keystroke in QuickNav Commander

2013-04-13 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I wanted to change one of the single key presses used in Quick Nav and
in attempting to, seem to have removed the command I wanted to alter.

I want to use the letter d to move to the next different item.  At the
moment that is used to find previous checkbox.  I don't particularly
mind about having a keystroke at all for previous checkbox.  In
attempting to change this I've gone wrong somewhere and e item find
next different item has disappeared from the list of commands.
Please can anyone help me how to get it back in there and then how do
I assign the letter d to go to next different item?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Entering Unicode characters

2013-04-13 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Has anyone ever entered characters by entering the unicode numbers?
To cut a long story short I have a need to do this and cannot get it
to work.  I found some instructions about it and think I followed them
properly,and now I am suppose to be able to hold down the option key
and enter the required unicode numbers which should result in the
corresponding character being entered.  What seems to be happening is
I hold down the option key and start typing numbers but it seems to
accept the very first digit which I enter without waiting for the
others, no matter how fast I type, and I am typing pretty quickly.

What complicates matters, and is the reason I have the need for this
in the first place, is I am using a special keyboard adapted for one
handed typing and I am also using sticky keys.  However I have tried
on the Macbook keyboard itself and with sticky keys switched off and
it does not seem to make a difference.  I wonder if anyone has any
ideas?  And if I cannot get this to work, is there a way I can put
certain characters somewhere in the menu so I can select them from
there when I need them?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Problem closing windows

2013-04-12 Thread Catherine Turner
Ah thank you - quitting the app was what I wanted to do and I hadn't
come across that keystroke yet, or if I had I'd forgotten :-) I was
looking in the file menu thinking something like that would be there,
and so confused when the only close things were close window which
were greyed out...I'm surprised the command doesn't seem to be in any
of the menus...or perhaps I'm missing it...

Catherine

On 4/10/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just hit cmd q to quit the app all together. The reason the app is still
 there is you can still view windows by key strokes or by going to the window
 menu. This is the case 99 percent of the time.  I do this all the time in
 mail. I want my mail running but I don't want to see all of my folders. I
 want a blank there.

 Take care.
 On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Ah sorry, I still don't understand.  If the app has no windows how
 come it's still there?  I mean, ok maybe the app is just open but
 nothing happening in it or something, but how can I close the app?
 What if I go into an app and then decide I don't want it running any
 more, don't want it showing in the app chooser?  How do I close it?
 It seems strange to me that when I press Cmd W sometimes this closes
 the app and it disappears from application chooser, and other times
 cmd w just seems to do nothing...confused...

 Catherine

 On 4/9/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually it is. The application has no windows when you do cmd w.  Often
 to
 reshow for lack of a better word  a window you can go to the view menu
 and
 down arrow to  what ever window it is you want to show or memorize the
 key
 strokes.

 Take care.
 On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:45 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm wondering why quite often Command W doesn't do anything to close a
 window and the close window item in the file menu is dimmed.
 Sometimes I open stuff from dock or elsewhere just to see what it is
 and then I can't close them.  Sometimes in this situation if I try
 flicking on the trackpad VO says bla bla has no windows.  At the
 moment I have Skype open which I can't close, and Grapher as well.
 Can anyone help?

 Catherine
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Re: Problem closing windows

2013-04-10 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Ah sorry, I still don't understand.  If the app has no windows how
come it's still there?  I mean, ok maybe the app is just open but
nothing happening in it or something, but how can I close the app?
What if I go into an app and then decide I don't want it running any
more, don't want it showing in the app chooser?  How do I close it?
It seems strange to me that when I press Cmd W sometimes this closes
the app and it disappears from application chooser, and other times
cmd w just seems to do nothing...confused...

Catherine

On 4/9/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually it is. The application has no windows when you do cmd w.  Often to
 reshow for lack of a better word  a window you can go to the view menu and
 down arrow to  what ever window it is you want to show or memorize the key
 strokes.

 Take care.
 On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:45 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm wondering why quite often Command W doesn't do anything to close a
 window and the close window item in the file menu is dimmed.
 Sometimes I open stuff from dock or elsewhere just to see what it is
 and then I can't close them.  Sometimes in this situation if I try
 flicking on the trackpad VO says bla bla has no windows.  At the
 moment I have Skype open which I can't close, and Grapher as well.
 Can anyone help?

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Re: Help installing an app

2013-04-09 Thread Catherine Turner
Thank you, I've installed Skype now.  I got a warning when I ran it
though, I suppose this happens when you get apps not from the app
store...

Catherine

On 4/8/13, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/8/13, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 You have to put the Skype file from the downloads folder in the
 applications folder to do this you have to press command c to copy it.

 On 4/8/13, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I wanted to install Skype and understand it can't be found in the app
 store so I went to their home page and have downloaded it.  I'm still
 new to Mac and trying to get to grips with using Finder and there are
 a couple of things I'm not sure of about next steps for installing
 Skype.

 Firstly I noticed in my downloads folder there are several skype files
 with slightly different names.  I think this is probably because I
 kept clicking the download link because I didn't think it was doing
 anything.  Is it likely that there should only be one file?  If so I
 guess it doesn't matter which one I install.

 Secondly on the skype website it says to install Skype drag the
 downloaded file into the applications folder.  I suppose I can copy or
 cut it to the applications folder?  Will need to read up how to do
 this...

 Thirdly, on my desktop I now have a Skype volume.  I'm not sure what
 this is.  Will this be a shortcut to launch Skype?  I'm wondering
 whether that is what I need to put in the applications folder, or is
 it a file from the downloads folder?  Also I still don't really
 understand what  a volume is.  I had assumed it meant hard disk since
 the Macintosh hd is named as a volume but that can't be the case if
 this skype item has appeared on my desktop and is referred to as a
 volume...can anyone enlighten me?

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Skype help please

2013-04-09 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I installed Skype and am having some problems getting started.  I am
in html content when the app starts and there's something saying Skype
name combobox, and according to Voiceover I can type text or display a
list of options with VO space.  I tried typing text but Voiceover
doesn't announce what I'm typing and when I get off that combobox and
back on again it doesn't read any text so I don't know if I've typed
it.  Doing VO space doesn't do anything.

Can anyone help?  Am I misunderstanding somethingI tried
interacting with the combobox as well and this doesn't seem to
help...also if I get past this bit, if anyone can give me any other
hints/info about using Skype I'd be grateful...

Thanks,
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Problem closing windows

2013-04-09 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I'm wondering why quite often Command W doesn't do anything to close a
window and the close window item in the file menu is dimmed.
Sometimes I open stuff from dock or elsewhere just to see what it is
and then I can't close them.  Sometimes in this situation if I try
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moment I have Skype open which I can't close, and Grapher as well.
Can anyone help?

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Help installing an app

2013-04-08 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I wanted to install Skype and understand it can't be found in the app
store so I went to their home page and have downloaded it.  I'm still
new to Mac and trying to get to grips with using Finder and there are
a couple of things I'm not sure of about next steps for installing
Skype.

Firstly I noticed in my downloads folder there are several skype files
with slightly different names.  I think this is probably because I
kept clicking the download link because I didn't think it was doing
anything.  Is it likely that there should only be one file?  If so I
guess it doesn't matter which one I install.

Secondly on the skype website it says to install Skype drag the
downloaded file into the applications folder.  I suppose I can copy or
cut it to the applications folder?  Will need to read up how to do
this...

Thirdly, on my desktop I now have a Skype volume.  I'm not sure what
this is.  Will this be a shortcut to launch Skype?  I'm wondering
whether that is what I need to put in the applications folder, or is
it a file from the downloads folder?  Also I still don't really
understand what  a volume is.  I had assumed it meant hard disk since
the Macintosh hd is named as a volume but that can't be the case if
this skype item has appeared on my desktop and is referred to as a
volume...can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Help with web navigation please

2013-03-23 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

Still getting to grips with my Macbook pro and wonder if anyone could
help with a couple of issues I have with navigating web pages.  I
think I've confused myself with the several ways of accomplishing the
same task.  So can anyone suggest a way I can do these two things?  I
do have quick nav switched on but I could switch it off if that makes
a difference.

1.  Say on a web page I want to navigate to a button, but after that
read by line.  So I can press b to get to the button, but after that
how do I then read from then onwards by line?  What keystrokes or
gesture could I use?

2.  In a table, if I want to move across a row cell by cell how do I
do that?  And how do I move down a column cell by cell?  I'm currently
set to have tables grouped, and I know how to change this if it helps,
but still not quite sure what having tables grouped means...

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Help with web navigation please

2013-03-23 Thread Catherine Turner
Thanks Anne.  I managed to get around the table by interacting with
it.  I'm finding it a bit confusing at the moment though because
sometimes I press right arrow and I get the sound which indicates
there's something wrong or there's nowhere to move to, and then I find
I need to stop interacting with something in order to be able to use
right arrow to get to the next element.  It seems like sometimes VO is
interacting with tables without me asking it to and sometimes it's
not.  Finding the whole thing quite confusing really, got to just keep
trying I guess.

Thanks for your help,
Catherine

On 3/23/13, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 Hello Catherine,

 If you're navigating the Web in DOM mode, then with Quick Nav on, just the
 right arrow will take you to the next element which probably corresponds to
 a line or a sentence. Without Quick Nav, this would be VO-Right Arrow. In
 Groups mode, you'd have to interact with the group, then press VO-Down
 Arrow, or with Quick Nav, set it to Navigation and use the Down Arrow.

 As for navigating tables, you have to interact with the table, then VO-Right
 arrow will go along a row, and VO-Down Arrow will go down a column. You can
 read a whole row with VO-r.

 Cheers,

 Anne


 On 23 Mar 2013, at 23:10, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Still getting to grips with my Macbook pro and wonder if anyone could
 help with a couple of issues I have with navigating web pages.  I
 think I've confused myself with the several ways of accomplishing the
 same task.  So can anyone suggest a way I can do these two things?  I
 do have quick nav switched on but I could switch it off if that makes
 a difference.

 1.  Say on a web page I want to navigate to a button, but after that
 read by line.  So I can press b to get to the button, but after that
 how do I then read from then onwards by line?  What keystrokes or
 gesture could I use?

 2.  In a table, if I want to move across a row cell by cell how do I
 do that?  And how do I move down a column cell by cell?  I'm currently
 set to have tables grouped, and I know how to change this if it helps,
 but still not quite sure what having tables grouped means...

 Thanks for any help.

 Catherine
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Problem changing VO voice

2013-03-23 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I wanted to look at different options for the VO voice and changed it
from being Alex to Daniel Compact.  But now I'd like to change it back
again and don't seem to have the option.  When I get to the voice
setting it says Daniel Compact locked.

At some point I was messing around/looking around at the settings in
system preferences for the system voice.  I don't think I changed
anything there but perhaps I did and this has messed up VO's voice
settings?

Does anyone have any ideas why I shouldn't be able to choose any other
voices apart from Daniel Compact?  When VO comes in the logon screen
it's using the Alex voice but after that I get Daniel Compact and
would like to change it again.  Come to that, are there meant to be
more voices than those two?  Because they are the only two I've seen
in my VO settings...I'm talking about the settings reached by pressing
VO Command left and right arrows - I don't know if there's another
place also for these settings...

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: My Mac has arrived.

2013-02-19 Thread Catherine Turner
And on this subject, where do you get apps from?  I mean you can
obviously download them from various websites but is there, for
exammple, an app store like there is on an Ipod?

Catherine

On 2/19/13, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some apps have  installers, but they are  simple to use. And not all of them
 do, only certain ones.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Lewis Crack lewiscr...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 That's cool that you have got your Mac!

 As to it being the same as Windows when installing Programss, the
 answer is no, but it's simpler. all you do, is download the app you
 wish to install, then open it in the Finder (the alternative to the
 File Browser/Windows Explorer in Windows), then copy and paste the app
 to the Applications directory and open it. You'll be asked to open
 it first, just to confirm that the file is safe to open, and then you
 can use the app to your heart's content!

 It's really that simple, unlike Windows!
 Hope this helps.
 Lewis.


 On 19/02/2013, Jamie Coady darklordja...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 some time down the line as i get better with mac i might invest in a mac
 desktop but i would put windows on it aswell.


 -Original Message-
 From: George Cham
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:25 PM
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: My Mac has arrived.


 Hi guys,
 I'll be picking up Mac today or tomorrow, my question is.
 How do I install programs on the Mac?
 Is it the same process as windows?

 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com



 George

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Re: Windows Fusion questions

2013-01-23 Thread Catherine Turner
Thanks for all the info.  Sounds like Fusion is the way to go for me.

Catherine

On 1/22/13, cait furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey, np, it's how we all learn!
 Cait

 On 2013-01-22, at 3:11 PM, jamie coady darklordja...@ntlworld.com
 wrote:

 thanks for this.


 -Original Message- From: cait furness
 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:20 PM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Windows Fusion questions

 fusion is easy to set up.  Either purchase the dvd from a retailer or
 download the file from their site and install it onto your mac and follow
 the prompts.  You can then install the other OS independently as a blind
 person, which is beyond all coolness imho!  Everything is accessible on
 the mac side, but once you're into the other OS, it's business as usual.
 Caitlyn

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 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to do what I think some others on this list do and have the
 option of running Windows on my Mac so that for certain tasks I can
 switch to Windows and use my screen reader there.  I just googled
 windows fusion and came up with a site talking about another product,
 Parallels Desktop.

 My question is are people here using Windows Fusion, or Parallels
 Desktop?  Is there anything accessibilitywise to make me choose one
 over the other?  And when you've actually installed, say, Windows
 Fusion, how easy is it to use from a blind person's point of view?
 Any other info on setting up Windows Fusion or Parallels Desktop and
 using them from a blind perspective most welcome.

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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Re: Reading title of window?

2013-01-22 Thread Catherine Turner
Thank you James, yes this helps, and I should remember to look in the
VO commands menu next time...

Thanks,
Catherine

On 1/21/13, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote:
 Good morning Catherine,

 As you navigate with Command+Tab, VoiceOver will tel you which application
 you are moving to, as I'm sure you know. To read the title of a window,
 press VO+F2. Pressing this twice quickly will bring up a list of open
 windows. To know what the current application is and how many are running
 press VO+F1. Pressing this twice quickly, will bring up a list of
 applications that you can then navigate with the arrow keys much like the
 list that appears with the above VO+F2 Command, when it is pressed twice
 quicly.

 You'll find both of these commands in the VoiceOver Commands menu which is
 VO+h+h.

 I hope this helps
 Take care
 James
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Windows Fusion questions

2013-01-22 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

I want to do what I think some others on this list do and have the
option of running Windows on my Mac so that for certain tasks I can
switch to Windows and use my screen reader there.  I just googled
windows fusion and came up with a site talking about another product,
Parallels Desktop.

My question is are people here using Windows Fusion, or Parallels
Desktop?  Is there anything accessibilitywise to make me choose one
over the other?  And when you've actually installed, say, Windows
Fusion, how easy is it to use from a blind person's point of view?
Any other info on setting up Windows Fusion or Parallels Desktop and
using them from a blind perspective most welcome.

Thanks,
Catherine
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Re: Help getting into status and extra menus?

2013-01-06 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Colin,

Marvellous, thank you.  I wonder how you discovered that keystroke in
the first place?  It's a pity the manual doesn't mention it, at least
I haven't found it so far and it should be mentioned in the section
about the extras.  So glad I have this helpful list to call on.

Thanks,
Catherine

On 1/6/13, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 Hi there!
 there is 2 ways to get there!
 1, VO+MM that is M twice!
 2, Or Control+f8 will take you there!
 Also Control+f2 will take you to the menu bar like VO+M does!
 hth Colin

 On 5 Jan 2013, at 23:13, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Can anyone tell me how I get into the status menus?  The voiceover
 manual refers to them and I can get into the menu bar but don't find
 any status menus by cursoring left and right either with just cursors
 or VO cursors.  I used the trackpad and then found extras,
 notifications etc but they seem to close as soon as I touch them.
 Should I be able to get to the status menus etc without using the
 trackpad?  For example I'd like to find out how much battery power is
 left, what the time is etc.

 Thanks,
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Re: Newby trouble with desktop

2012-12-29 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Thanks for your help with this.  I had a measure of success but think
I'll leave it for now as maybe I'll use the doc more than the desktop.
 I did set the view of the finder to list view - do you think that's
sensible?  It sounded like it would be the easiest to use...guess it
depends on personal preference really but am trying to make it as easy
as possible...

Thanks,
Catherine

On 12/24/12, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 It can be depending on your preferences. From the finder which is sort of
 the desk top and you can get to it with cmd tab do the following,

 hit cmd cahma.

 2. Check the stuff you want to show up like hard drives and stuff.

 3. Interact wight he tool bar with vo shift down arrow and go to the side
 bar tab.

 4. Press the side bar button with vo space and stop interacting with the
 tool bar. Uncheck the stuff you don't want to see. I unchecked everything as
 i don't use the side bar.

 5. Close the window with cmd w.

 Good luck.
 On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Am getting started with Mac and VO and was just trying to look around
 the desktop.  But Voiceover says it's empty.  I'm sure earlier on it
 wasn't empty.  Is the desktop empty by default on a new Mac?  Can
 anyone help?

 Thanks, and happy holidays to all,
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Re: Help using Voiceover in log on screen

2012-12-09 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

Thanks for he help with this.  Strange, I didn't get to follow any of
your instructions but the next time I started my computer VO started
in the log on screen.

About things in lists being in tables - how will I know it's a table?
VO didn't seem to say it was a table in that dialogue...but basically
whenever you want to do anything like that you interact with it...

Catherine

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 Any lists in Mac Os X appears as tables which you must interact with. So
 try interacting with that account list, which is really a table, then
 try clicking on log on options.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 08/12/2012 09:45, Catherine Turner wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have just got myself a Macbook Pro.  I worked my way through the
 Voiceover tutorial and am now trying to get Voiceover to start
 automatically for the log on screen.  I thought I had done the right
 things in system preferences but it didn't work, so have gone back to
 the instructions in the manual and am having trouble following them.

 The manual says, after going to Apple menu, system preferences, users
 and groups:
 In the account list, move the VoiceOver cursor to Login Options and
 press VO-Space bar.

 The first problem is I'm not 100 percent sure I'm in an account list
 because there doesn't seem to be anything saying account list.  But
 I'm fairly sure I've found that bit - there's a list with current
 user, my user name, guest user etc.  At the end of that list I find
 log in options but when I press VO spacebar there's just a ding sound
 as if I'm trying to click something which can't be clicked, and
 nothing happens.  I then thought it might be because I need to put my
 password in, so I got out of the list and clicked the enter password
 to make changes button or something like that.  Then I was asked to
 put my password in which I did, but on going back to that log in
 options in the accounts list I still get a ding and nothing.

 Does anyone know where I'm going wrong?  I'm totally new to Mac so
 please let me off if I'm missing something obvious :-)

 Thanks,
 Catherine
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Re: Considering Mac, questions about Voiceover/access

2012-08-16 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

Wow, thanks for all the responses, I'll be reading through the links Phil gave.

I've got a lot to think about then.  I googled VM fusion and discover
it's a way of running Windows on a Mac right?  So I would need a copy
of Windows and whatever else I wanted to run in Windows.  I wonder
where in the UK I could buy a full copy of Windows.  I don't know much
about this as I have always bought systems with Windows already
installed and as far as I know the CDs that came with them were not
full Windows CDs, just recovery CDs.  Does anyone know anything about
where I might buy Windows CD?

There are several things that appeal to me about Mac, having heard a
few podcasts and a friend demonstrating his to me recently.  But one
reason I was thinking of keeping my costs down.  Because I have a
dying laptop running Windows Vista and JAWS 10.  The kinds of Windows
laptops I'm looking at cost around £600.  Plus to upgrade JAWS would
cost £400 something.  So I was thinking if I went for Mac with
built-in screen reader that would be slightly cheaper.  But if I
decided for some reason I would need Windows sometimes this would
increase the cost significantly, and I think I would need to use
tables a fair bit.  So I guess I'll keep this laptop going as long as
possible and maybe I can get the money together to get a Mac plus
Windows and VM fusion and JAWS latest version...and in the meantime
start at least reading about how to use Mac and Voiceover.

Thanks for all the help.  I shall continue probably lurking on this
list to learn more about Mac while I get ready/save up...

Catherine

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 Catherine, Just a follow-up to my earlier post. I suggest you also check out

 the very well done podcasts at
 www.htb2.com

 This man recently lost his eyesight in afganistan and now uses Macs to great

 effect. His casts are very positive, helpful and well-done.

 He covers subjects like web surfing with Safari (an excellent and easy to
 use web browser on the Mac)

 and many other topics of interest to blind mac users.

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Considering Mac, questions about Voiceover/access

2012-08-15 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi all,

I don't have a Mac at the moment but am considering getting one and
have some questions about Voiceover and general Mac access which I
wonder if people could help me with?

1.  With word processing, is VO able to give font/formatting information?

2.  I use spreadsheets a fair bit and databases a little.  I currently
use Excel with JAWS and quite often monitor certain cells so I can at
a keystroke find out what's in them.  Does anyone here do anything
similar on Mac?  How configurable is VO when working in spreadsheets
e.g. is there a keystroke for reading a column total and can you set
which row the total is in either in VO or the spreadsheet program?

3.  Scanning/OCR - what are people using for this?  How do you find it
and what sort of things do you scan?

4.  Sound editing and MIDI - I do a fair bit of sound editing in wave
format, currently in Goldwave.  I haven't started doing any MIDI yet
but hope to in the future.  So I don't know much about the MIDI but am
just wondering if anyone is doing any Mac and what you use, how you're
finding it.

If anyone has any comments/feedback on the above questions that'd be
great.  Or if anyone here has switched from Windows to Mac and has any
other observations I'd be interested in hearing them.

Thanks,
Catherine
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