Re: How to make screenshots ona a Mac as a blind person?

[JAMES AUSTIN]

It's funny you should mention this, I used Command+Shift+4 today with VO and 
succeeded in what I wanted.

Let me set the scene, as this may not work in all situations. I needed to find 
the publication info for a book and the title page would not read in Adobe 
Digital Editions. I began by maximising the window as hiding the other apps did 
not give me what I wanted after running the Screenshot through my OCR package. 
After pressing Command+Shift+4 I pressed Space and then I clicked the mouse. A 
picture was taken and as luck would have it I got the info I needed. As i said 
though, this was a specific case where I supposed there was not much chance of  
it not working.

Take care
James 

On 2 Mar 2014, at 17:08, Apple Boy  wrote:

> Correct. Command-shift-4 does not work with VoiceOver. I wonder if it's 
> possible to open the screenshot in the included iPhoto application?
> On 2 Mar 2014, at 16:18, Christian Schoepplein  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’d sometimes like to make screenshots on my Mac to include them in blog 
>> posts, for example if I describe how to perform some usefull things with Mac 
>> OS. I know of cmd + shift + 3 to make a screenshot that will be stored on 
>> the desktop, but are there any other usefull possibilities to create 
>> screenshots as a blind person with VoiceOver? Is it possible somehow to 
>> select the size and the part of the screen to include in the screenshot for 
>> example? For sighted people cmd + shift + 4 can be used, but that for me 
>> does not work with VoiceOver, but maybe I do something wrong…
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Christian
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Re: Adobe Flash Update

[JAMES AUSTIN]

An alternative would be to use Google Chrome. It has an in-built player that is 
used only within Chrome. Not an answer to your question, but a useful 
alternative if the suggested offered is unsuccessful for you.
On 1 Feb 2014, at 14:01, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Hello 
> 
> Try tabbing to the install button and hitting space on it. This is how I 
> install the updates. 
> Good luck. 
> 
>> On Feb 1,r 2014, at 5:50, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, The message is up on my mac that there is an update for Adobe Flash 
>> and there is an "update" and an "image" and there is also zoom and close. I 
>> can't get anything to work. This has happened before and the only button 
>> that I know will work is the close button, so I don't press it. I have tried 
>> mouse commands as well as the usual vo+space. How can I get this to happen?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Kristeen
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Re: Assistance with the Calibre E-Book Library

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Hi Christian

That would be very useful please.

Thanks
James 
On 12 Jan 2014, at 17:49, Christian Schoepplein  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am 12.01.2014 um 16:53 schrieb JAMES AUSTIN :
>> 
>> Has anyone had any luck in using the Calibre E-Book Library Manager? 
> 
> The graphical frontend isn’t useable with VO, some elements are spoken, but 
> as you mensioned the content of the window is not accessible.
> 
> However: Books can be converted via the terminal and the regarding command. 
> If this is interesting for you or someone else, let me know, I can post the 
> command.
> 
> Ciao,
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Assistance with the Calibre E-Book Library

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Hi everyone,

Has anyone had any luck in using the Calibre E-Book Library Manager? 

VO is able to read the titles of the windows and the menu bar, but not the 
content of the windows themselves. 

I have however managed to convert some books into EPUB by pure chance. So 
hopefully this might be of use to someone.

After you first open the app the first screen is the welcome wizard. By 
continuously pressing Enter you will eventually get to the Calibre main window. 
By default the Calibre Library where your converted books are stored is placed 
in your Home folder. I have no idea what the other defaults are, except that 
EPUB is the default output.

To add a book you can either locate it in Finder and use "open with" to add it 
to Calibre or you can add it directly from the "Add Books" option in the menu 
bar. Your new book will be at the top of the list, though conveniently, the 
list is not spoken. Once you select to convert the book (from the menu bar, VO 
will read you the title of the book. You can convert more than one, at the same 
time, but I've not tried this.

In the new window, pressing Shift+Tab followed by Enter will start the 
conversion, with VO announcing its commencement. VO will not announce when it's 
finished, but you'll find the converted book in your Calibre Library folder 
which as I said is in your Home folder by default.

if anyone knows of any more accessible software please let me know. I hope this 
is useful to someone.

Take care
James 
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Re: Suggestions for scanning printed books with an iPhone

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Thanks Anne and Esther,

I already have Text Grabber, but I'll look into the ScanStand.

Thanks

All good wishes
James
On 31 Dec 2013, at 18:26, Esther  wrote:

> Hello James,
> 
> I agree with Anne that TextGrabber and Prizmo are the best OCR apps for the 
> iPhone,  TextGrabber is currently on sale for $1.99, reduced from $5.99. (The 
> price just dropped yesterday morning.)
> • TextGrabber + Translator ($1.99, normally $5.99) by ABBYY
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/textgrabber/id438475005
> Here's a link to the June AccessWorld article that reviews both TextGrabber 
> and the StandScan Pro:
> http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw140603
> 
> If you need to order the StandScan Pro from its web site, there's a product 
> link for the device with the high-power battery and charger (that you want 
> for the brighter light that improves OCR results):
> http://bit.ly/1kYNUll
> I've shortened the link from the full address at the main site:
> http://standscan.com/
> I've used Zoom Reader (just with VoiceOver, not the low vision functions).  
> It uses the ABBYY engine for OCR, so it does a reasonable job, but 
> TextGrabber, which is ABBYY's own app, is better.  It's possible there are 
> low vision enhancements to ZoomReader that make it worth the $19.99 list 
> price, but frankly TextGrabber is better irrespective of price.  For one 
> thing, if you import an image from the camera roll, ZoomReader won't 
> correctly OCR if the image is upside down or rotated by 90 degrees, although 
> it will recognize the rotated images if you use the camera directly.
> 
> Another tip, if you take a lot of images that you want to transfer back to 
> your computer, you can export to a downloading app as an intermediary to 
> Dropbox and get more content transferred than if you simply export to Dropbox 
> directly.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther 
> 
> 
> On Dec 31, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello James,
>> 
>> The best OCR apps for iPhone are TextGrabber and Prizmo. Prizmo is easier to 
>> use freehand, but TextGrabber normally gives better results and is faster, 
>> as long as you use something like a StandScan Pro or ScanBox to provide 
>> optimal lighting and positioning.
>> 
>> You can buy the StandScan Pro from:
>> <http://standscan.com/index.php/product/standscan-pro.html>
>> It’s adbvisable to add the 12 v battery pack to your order as it provides 
>> better lighting.
>> 
>> If you’re in France, you can get the StandScan Pro from CECIAA for €30.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 31 Dec 2013, at 15:47, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> Happy new year to all.
>>> 
>>> Could anyone please suggest an OCR solution that will allow me to scan 
>>> printed books using an iPhone? I hear that Zoom Reader is supposed to be 
>>> very good, can anyone shed any light on this? I'd also like to know if i 
>>> can use the iPhone as a portable scanner, and have access to the resulting 
>>> scanned images on the Mac for editing purposes.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> All good wishes
>>> James
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Suggestions for scanning printed books with an iPhone

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Hi listers,

Happy new year to all.

Could anyone please suggest an OCR solution that will allow me to scan printed 
books using an iPhone? I hear that Zoom Reader is supposed to be very good, can 
anyone shed any light on this? I'd also like to know if i can use the iPhone as 
a portable scanner, and have access to the resulting scanned images on the Mac 
for editing purposes.

Thank you
All good wishes
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Re: The "second page" problem :-(

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I'm not running 10.9 yet, but try using Draft view in Nisus Writer Pro.
On 18 Dec 2013, at 19:32, Christian Schoepplein  wrote:

> Hi Zack,
> 
> thanks for this helpfull hint. But how can I deal with this problem in Nisus 
> Writer Pro? Has anyone a workaround for this app?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>  Chris
> 
> Am 18.12.2013 um 20:23 schrieb Zachary Kline :
> 
>> This is a known problem under TextEdit. The solution is to use “Wrap to 
>> Window,” mode instead of “Wrap to page.” You can toggle this on with 
>> cmd-shift-w.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Christian Schoepplein  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> since 10.9 and also with 10.9.1 there is the problem, that in some apps 
>>> only the first page of document files are spoken by vo, all further pages 
>>> are not recognized :-(. This strange behaviour can be noticed in Nisus 
>>> Writer, iText Express and many others, even the Text Edit app from Apple 
>>> can’t be used to read longer documents :-(.
>>> 
>>> Because I think, that this is a very big issue and makes work with 
>>> documents very heavy under Mac OS,  I’d be great if everyone can report 
>>> this issue to the accessibility team of Apple. Maybe then this issue, and 
>>> hopefully also many others, will be fixed in 10.9.2…, allthough I do not 
>>> really beleeve it :-(.
>>> 
>>> How do you handle the „second page“ problem? Do you know a workaround?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Christian
>>> 
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Re: mavericks: finder fails to refresh.

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Hi Donal
On 17 Nov 2013, at 18:14, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> Interesting.  Neither with the arrow keys on their own, or VO-Arrow keys, the 
> folder doesn’t show up.

A long shot, but could the extracted folder have somehow become hidden? Does it 
appear in Terminal if ls is used?

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Re: Printing Word Document Correctly.

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Have you tried either saving the file as a PDF or re-creating the TOC with 
either Pages or Nisus Writer?

Take are
James 
On 17 Nov 2013, at 14:30, David Griffith  wrote:

> OK thanks I will try with Pages.
> 
> It definitely did not print out in Nisus  Writer Pro as I had somebody
> sighted check the print out and the table of contents was missing, not just
> from the print out but on the screen.
> The same document when viewed in Word on a PC still has the automated table
> of contents there.
> 
> David Griffith
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: 17 November 2013 13:41
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Printing Word Document Correctly.
> 
> Hello David,
> 
> Although VoiceOver can't see the automatically generated table of contents,
> it is there and will be printed correctly.
> 
> If you can find what looks like a highlighted space, press Cmd-c and paste
> it into a TextEdit document and you'll see the table of contents.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 17 Nov 2013, at 13:20, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
>> My Fusion on the Mac is not working for reasons  not relevant here.
>> I am therefore trying to Print out a book submission using native mac
>> applications and so far failing miserably.
>> 
>> Nisus Writer Pro for example is completely unable to detect or print out
> the
>> automatic table of contents page generated by Microsoft Word 2010 , and is
>> just leaving it out of the print.
>> 
>> TextEdit is similarly unable to cope.
>> Pages is not seeing the table of contents either  but I have not tried a
>> print yet to see it actually comes out.
>> Does anybody know of an accessible Mac application that can print
> Microsoft
>> Office Document correctly with all features rather than stripping out the
>> advance features?.
>> 
>> I am using Mountain Lion.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> David Griffith
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Hi Chris and all
On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris  wrote:
> Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses 
> greatly appreciated. 
The "Hide" command only hides the window of the current application. The "Hide 
Others" command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the current 
application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise clutter on the 
screen. As you have found, this will not hide the application from the app 
switcher.

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Re: Creating EPub books

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You can create Epub books in both Pages and Nisus Writer Pro, but I have not 
had need to try this yet. There was a post some time ago on the list about 
creating such a book using Pages however.
On 17 Oct 2013, at 20:04, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> What is the best way for someone to create an EPub ebook?  I’m considering 
> writing a book, which eventually I want in IBooks, which means it’s going to 
> have to be in EPub eventually.  Even if that’s not the case though, I’d still 
> like to make an EPub version.  I tried IBooks Author from the app store, and 
> it looks sort of, ish, accessible, but I can’t seem to get my head around 
> where I type my data into the document, as there isn’t really a text entry 
> field from what I can tell.  I just wonder, thus, aside from this app, what 
> else may be out there that could help me with this.
> 
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Re: torrent client for mac.

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Hi Ian,

Try Utorrent

Best
J
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> Hi all, is there an accessible torrent client for the mac that we can use.
> 
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Re: Numbers Question

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Yes, i think so. if you put the title at the very top, what Numbers calls the 
"header row". This should let you hear which column you're in.

James 
On 26 Sep 2013, at 16:26, Jane  wrote:

> Hi there.
> 
> That's not quite what i am looking for. Those options are already set.
> 
> No, what I want to do is this.
> 
> Say I have a list of fruits in one column, Column a and a list or prices in 
> Column B a store to find the fruit at in column C.
> 
> Asj I go across the row, like a@ through whatever, I want it to read the top 
> row to remind me what I am loking at. Can I do this?
> 
> Jane
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:18 AM, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:
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>> Hi Jane,
>> 
>> I don't know about a script, but you can set this from within Numbers itself.
>> 
>> Under the "Table" menu you'll find a submenu under "Header Columns" and 
>> another under "Header Rows". Make sure that in both submenus you select 
>> zero. I'm not quite sure what these options do, but they allow VoiceOver to  
>> provide alpha-numeric identifiers for each cell. I would tink that you could 
>> set this in the "inspector", Command+Option+I. That way, you won't need to 
>> set the option each time you open numbers or create a new table.
>> 
>> Take care
>> James 
>> 
>> On 26 Sep 2013, at 01:04, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have just bought myself Numbers for my Mac running Mountain Lion. Is 
>>> there a way I can make a script so that when I arrow through the sheet, I 
>>> will get the column headings as I go from B1 to B2 and so on?  If so, what 
>>> is it, or where an I find it?
>>> 
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Re: Numbers Question

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Hi Jane,

I don't know about a script, but you can set this from within Numbers itself.

Under the "Table" menu you'll find a submenu under "Header Columns" and another 
under "Header Rows". Make sure that in both submenus you select zero. I'm not 
quite sure what these options do, but they allow VoiceOver to  provide 
alpha-numeric identifiers for each cell. I would tink that you could set this 
in the "inspector", Command+Option+I. That way, you won't need to set the 
option each time you open numbers or create a new table.

Take care
James 

On 26 Sep 2013, at 01:04, Jane  wrote:

> I have just bought myself Numbers for my Mac running Mountain Lion. Is there 
> a way I can make a script so that when I arrow through the sheet, I will get 
> the column headings as I go from B1 to B2 and so on?  If so, what is it, or 
> where an I find it?
> 
> Jane
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Re: Russian-English Dictionary accessible on a Mac with VO

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Hi Mary,

I have the English French and italian Collins/Ultralingua dictionairies and 
they are completely accessible except for the Flashcards. However, I think that 
Russian uses a script that is not based on Latin lettering. I think it is 
called Serilic. I am not sure if this will be accessible to Voice Over. If it 
is the same as is used in Hebrew, then probably not.

Best
James 

On 20 Sep 2013, at 16:44, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Hi James,
> I did just check with the ultra lingua site, and as was the case when I last 
> checked, I did not see anything related to any Russian products.
> However, now I do see that they have a Collins Russian English dictionary 
> which is said to have ultra lingua features. It costs more than the ultra 
> Lingle ones and I have no idea if it would be accessible. I wonder if anyone 
> has try this Collins product or any other of the Collins products and if they 
> are indeed accessible. Thanks.
> Mary
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Re: Russian-English Dictionary accessible on a Mac with VO

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You could try www.ultralingua.com and see if they have a Russian-English 
dictionary. The dictionaries are extremely good and accessible.

Best
James 
On 20 Sep 2013, at 06:36, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> OK, I don't know about an actual app, so this may not be exactly what you 
> want per sey, but how about going to
> 
> http://www.wordreference.com
> 
> You don't need to register for an account, unless you want to post to the 
> forums.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:47 PM
> Subject: Russian-English Dictionary accessible on a Mac with VO
> 
> 
>> I'm looking for an accessible Russian-English dictionary. Does anybody know 
>> of one?
>> 
>> Mary
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>> Mary Otten
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Re: pages

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Hi Sarah,
On 4 Aug 2013, at 23:20, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> iText express creates headers and footers, but voice over does not see them. 
> I have contacted the dev 10  months ago but no response.  that is you cannot 
> get back to them once you created them.
> Have you tried using the "Item Chooser" and typing in the name of your header?

Best
James 

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Re: pages

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Hi Linda
On 4 Aug 2013, at 19:52, Linda C. Knight  wrote:
> I saw from the beginning being a new mac user that pages is difficult.

> I wouldn't say that Pages is "difficult', once you get used to it, but it is 
> quite different from using what you might call a "traditional" word 
> processor. As others may have already explained, the real power of Pages is 
> not found in the menus but in the Inspector. You can bring this up with 
> Command+Option+I. From this window you can  control pretty much every aspect 
> of Pages.

That being said, you need to remember (and maybe you've discovered this 
already), that Voice Over support for Pages is quite rudimentary. This is such 
a shame and extremely disappointing. Maybe this will improve later this year. 
There are workarounds for a number of things such as including headers in 
documents, but they are long-winded and are sometimes hit and miss. You can 
include headings, but the process is quite time-consuming. Once you've got the 
headings you want though, you're good to go. Footnotes are another matter 
though. However, as with my following suggestion, what you use depends on what 
you want to do.
> 
> I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion on a different word processor other
> than text edit.
> 
There are a number of free solutions, including one that I believe is called 
"iText Express". If i remember correctly, this is a revamped version of 
TextEdit with some features including footnotes that TextEdit itself cannot 
create. If however you want an experience comparable to MS Word though, you 
might consider either Nisus Writer Express or Nisus Writer Pro. Each can be 
found in the App Store or on the developer's website at:

http://www.nisus.com

The support from the developer is excellent and both the Express and Pro 
versions can handle the importing of Word files. I think the difference between 
the two is that Express does not offer Tables of Contents and a few other 
features that the developers deem useful only to professionals. They are 
however quite expensive.

At the moment, neither of these products offer Voice Over support for tables. 
They do however offer a 15-day free trial from the website. 

Other people on this list use Nisus's word processing products and I'm sure 
that if you decided to give them a  try, we would all be happy to help you 
overcome any difficulties you might encounter.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps
James 
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Re: Numbers and Excel spreadsheets

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Hi Andy
On 28 Jul 2013, at 15:32, Andy Collins  wrote:
> I then tried sending it as an attachment to somebody using Excel on  a 
> Windows machine, but they were unable to open it. Anybody tell me how to make 
> this possible? I can't imagine that it is only possible to have Excel open in 
> Numbers, but not the other way about -
> 
If i remember correctly, the default filetype for a Numbers spreadsheet (even 
one that began life as a .xls file) is specific to Numbers. You'll need to 
choose the "Excel" option from the "Format" pop-up menu. Also, make sure you 
have the checkbox "Send Windows-friendly attachments" checked.

Hope this helps
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Re: Issues with TeXShop

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Hi  Dónal
On 26 Jul 2013, at 15:30, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> I'm not sure how many people on list use TeXShop, but I'm just wondering if 
> any of you have noticed that it is crashing a lot lately?  This is 
> particularly evident when I use either cmd-t to typeset a document, or cmd-w 
> to close the PDF output from LaTeX.

This seems to be an on-going bug. I'm not sure who to report it to, though 
hopefully the 2013 version might address it? I think it is coming out in 
September. 

As a workaround, and I'm sure you've thought of this, you could run pdflatex on 
the command line and send the output to a file on the Desktop to review any 
possible errors. I know it's not very efficient, but it should stop TeXShop 
crashing.

Perhaps there are other TeX editors, but I've not found any that are 
accessible. If i can be of any more help, please feel free to write me off list.

Hope this helps
Take care
James 

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Re: For those interested in listening to radio4extra on the Mac

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Have you tried Google Chrome? It contains in-built Flash which should allow you 
to play both live and catch up programming.

TAke care
James 
On 13 Jul 2013, at 20:18, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:

Hi all -

I've been finding it difficult to get a level of consistency in Safari on the 

www.bbc.co.uk/4extra

website.

I've used a windows machine and a Mac to look at the home page of that site, to 
compare how JAWS and VO see the content.

Firstly, JAWS appears to see much more, but this is not about ease of use, but 
about finding how to listen with VO.

Vo does not see the Schedule link from either using the roter or the VO F [find 
command], what I had to do was find the 4Extra link from the list of links, and 
then below that was the program currently on air, and the next link, was just a 
number, but by clicking that, with VO space, a page came up that had the 
schedule link visible.

I have also tried following help Anne gave, by going to the 4Extra home page, 
searching for the programme I want to listen to, and then looking for the 
programme number to click to play, but again, this sometimes works, and other 
times there is no listen link, or I can't get to the page that says: "play in 
pop out player."

I've persevered with this, because it looks like it should work, if only I can 
find the way, but it is hit and miss, and doesn't always produce results. So 
far, I've not looked in to installed the Get Iplayer that has been discussed on 
here, as I feel that is more about scheduling programmes for download, where as 
I just want to go and grab the odd programme I'm interested in, but which I 
missed when it was first broadcast.

So, that is where I'm up to. Happy to hear if anybody has helpful thoughts? -

Andy  
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Re: Creating an accessible and collaborative contact database

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Hi Dane,

Thank you, I'll give that a go. I didn't know that there was a Windows control 
panel in iCloud. Using iCloud didn't occur to me.

Take care
James 
On 25 Jun 2013, at 22:42, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Hi!

Perhaps I'm looking at things from the wrong angle but you did say accessible 
Contacts database did you not? If that's the case then why not use systems that 
already are designed to cater for the storage and organisation of contacts.

For example, just use the Contacts App on your Mac, use the iCloud Windows 
control panel to sync with Outlook or Address Book on your Windows machine and 
perhaps then you'll have your cross platform accessible contacts database.

On 25/06/2013, at 4:33 AM, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:

> Evening all,
> 
> I need to create an accessible contacts database that is cross platform. As 
> Numbers and Excel are Spreadsheets, and Numbers is notoriously difficult to 
> use with VO — at least in my experience, they are probably not going to make 
> the grade. Also, my manager would like to get rid of this way of creating 
> databases in our team.
> 
> As the database needs to be accessible to users of Assistive Technology on 
> Windows, I was thinking of simply creating individual files for each category 
> and then using headings to make navigation straightforward for all concerned. 
> I was thinking of either an RTF or DOC file so taht others could add their 
> own entries.
> 
> Any thoughts would be very welcome.
> Thank you
> Take care
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Creating an accessible and collaborative contact database

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Evening all,

I need to create an accessible contacts database that is cross platform. As 
Numbers and Excel are Spreadsheets, and Numbers is notoriously difficult to use 
with VO — at least in my experience, they are probably not going to make the 
grade. Also, my manager would like to get rid of this way of creating databases 
in our team.

As the database needs to be accessible to users of Assistive Technology on 
Windows, I was thinking of simply creating individual files for each category 
and then using headings to make navigation straightforward for all concerned. I 
was thinking of either an RTF or DOC file so taht others could add their own 
entries.

Any thoughts would be very welcome.
Thank you
Take care
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Re: Tables For Mac

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Thanks Dane,

A useful trick.

James 
On 23 Jun 2013, at 09:49, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

The last update seems to have been issued in 2010 so that's some time ago.

The application still seems to work as well as it ever did under OSX Mountain 
Lion so I guess the old quote applies, "If it ain't broke then don't fix it".

In my use of Tables there's been only 1 problem I've come up against, I 
couldn't directly export to a Microsoft Excel file so I exported to a comma 
delimited text file and was able to import this into Excel.

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The Tables app

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Hi Dane,

I thought the Tables app was no longer being actively developed? If it is, I'll 
give it a look.

Thanks
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Re: aliases VS. copy

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Just a note about the Desktop here, and this is  my experience. This may  no 
longer be an issue for most people. For some reason (which I've not yet had 
chance to look into) OS X does not like clutter on the desktop. The od folder 
shouldn't pose a problem, though I would imagine that this depends on the size 
of the folder and its contents. So in short, it might be an idea not to clutter 
your Desktop with too many folders. 

James  
On 13 Jun 2013, at 03:34, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

You got it. I have several of the little buggers on my desk top all pointing to 
folders on both of my drives. Think of these as a link to a file/folder stored 
any ware on your system including eternal drives. so instead of going to 
/volumes/music/itunes/library/music I can just click the iTunes library alius 
on my desk top and I'm there.  You have to move the thing from there you 
created the alius to the desk top though but it's all worth it. 
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> hello,
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> some one talked about creating aliases on the desktop for easy access. I have 
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> copying folders to the desktop and pasting them in there. so what is the 
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Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

[JAMES AUSTIN]

None intended, it appears that "single page view" is not accessible to VO. 
However, if you change your view to "Single Page Continuous" VO works fine with 
Skim and reading. Thanks to John for this.

Take care
James 
On 5 Jun 2013, at 15:09, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

Really.  Hmm, I wonder why that would be?  Well, no hard feelings, it was just 
a thought.  Smile.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "JAMES AUSTIN" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?


> I use Skim myself and since updating to 10.8.4 Skim has become unusable for 
> me.
> 
> James
> On 5 Jun 2013, at 11:16, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> Just a suggestion.  Has anyone tried maybe using the app called Skim to read 
> p d f files?  I hear that it works extremely! well and is way! way! better 
> than Preview.  Plus, it's completely 100% freeware.
> 
> I'd google it and try it.  You all might like it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?
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>> Hi Josh,
>> Yes, the behavior with PDF documents is improved, although it is still not 
>> the same as viewing them on Windows. Nevertheless, you can get all the text 
>> from them now without having to go through contortions. I trust that Apple 
>> will release more substantial changes in 10.9.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>>> Hi guys, in the release notes for OS 10.8.4, it states that there is 
>>> improved compatibility with PDF documents with voice over. I'm quite 
>>> impressed by this, but I'm wondering if anybody has actually had experience 
>>> with it, and if this is actually as it states. Thank you.
>>> 
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Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Hi John,

Thank you for that. I feel really dim for not trying that. Hopefully though the 
problem with single page view can be fixed, as it can be useful.

Take care
James 
On 5 Jun 2013, at 14:50, John Panarese  wrote:

  Just as a guess, try changing your view to continuous.  It seems in Preview 
that single page is not working as far as VO seems to not see the document.


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> Thanks Zack, I'll use Preview until such a time that Skim access is restored.
> Best
> James 
> 
> On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:43, Zachary Kline  wrote:
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> Hi,
> While I cannot confirm the problems with Skim on 10.8.4, I can suggest that 
> Preview has much improved. I should clarify that it has not yet given us 
> access to all the elements of PDF files, such as tables and forms, but it's 
> reading experience now very closely matches what you would receive with Skim. 
> Hopefully, more work will be done on this in 10.9.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>> No offense, but why would you need that if the compatibility in the native 
>> reader has improved? Are there certain types of things that voiceover can 
>> still not handle?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:31 AM, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since updating to 10.8.4, has anyone else noticed that PDFs no longer seem 
>>> to be readable in Skim?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Take care
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Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

[JAMES AUSTIN]

I use Skim myself and since updating to 10.8.4 Skim has become unusable for me.

James
On 5 Jun 2013, at 11:16, Chris Gilland  wrote:

Just a suggestion.  Has anyone tried maybe using the app called Skim to read p 
d f files?  I hear that it works extremely! well and is way! way! better than 
Preview.  Plus, it's completely 100% freeware.

I'd google it and try it.  You all might like it.

Chris.

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To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?


> Hi Josh,
> Yes, the behavior with PDF documents is improved, although it is still not 
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> will release more substantial changes in 10.9.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys, in the release notes for OS 10.8.4, it states that there is 
>> improved compatibility with PDF documents with voice over. I'm quite 
>> impressed by this, but I'm wondering if anybody has actually had experience 
>> with it, and if this is actually as it states. Thank you.
>> 
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Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Thanks Zack, I'll use Preview until such a time that Skim access is restored.
Best
James 

On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:43, Zachary Kline  wrote:

Hi,
While I cannot confirm the problems with Skim on 10.8.4, I can suggest that 
Preview has much improved. I should clarify that it has not yet given us access 
to all the elements of PDF files, such as tables and forms, but it's reading 
experience now very closely matches what you would receive with Skim. 
Hopefully, more work will be done on this in 10.9.
Best,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> No offense, but why would you need that if the compatibility in the native 
> reader has improved? Are there certain types of things that voiceover can 
> still not handle?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:31 AM, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since updating to 10.8.4, has anyone else noticed that PDFs no longer seem 
>> to be readable in Skim?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Take care
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Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

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Skim seems to be able to handle larger PDFs and is more stable. It also works 
well for presentations. I have to read a great deal for the work that I do and 
Skim fulfills my requirements better than Preview. However, reading PDFs with 
the new improvements is a joy. Hopefully, this is a sign of things to come.

Take care
James 
On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:38, Josh Gregory  wrote:

No offense, but why would you need that if the compatibility in the native 
reader has improved? Are there certain types of things that voiceover can still 
not handle?

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VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

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Hi all,

Since updating to 10.8.4, has anyone else noticed that PDFs no longer seem to 
be readable in Skim?

Thanks
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Re: Problem with my gf's MBA please help

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Hi Sarah and all,

Just curious here, but will the Recovery partition be able to do that? I 
thought that because the partition resides on the same disk as the OS, Disk 
utility is unable to scan everything. You might have better luck doing what 
Sarah suggests from a bootable backup.
On 4 Jun 2013, at 18:04, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Before you do that see if you can boot in to th recovery consul by holding down 
cmd plus r at start up. If you can, turn on voice over and  go to disk 
utilities and scan the hd for any disk issues, if it finds them click repair 
then try again. then repair permissions on the drive.

Good luck. and hope this helps. If not you might have to reinstall the os.
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> Are you able to reinstall the operating system?
> 
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>> can not find a log file and she is unable to log in to her system do to
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Re: Those Who Edit Word Documents on the Mac

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Hi Devon,

On 21 May 2013, at 18:33, Devin Prater  wrote:
I wonder if there are any command-line edditors that are accessible and provide 
the level we all need of edditing, like headings and formatting?

I don't know of any Command Line editors that will do what you want per say, 
though there is always LaTex. Be aware though that it will take time to learn. 
It is incredibly powerful and is  considered by some, to be the gold standard 
for any sort of writing. I am not sure how easy it is though to convert a LaTeX 
file to RTF or DOC, as they are both proprietary  formats. I believe that it is 
possible, though at some cost to any special formatting or attributes such as 
footnotes.

You could also look at John Gruber's Markdown or Fletcher Penny's 
Multimarkdown. Both of these are designed for web publishing, without the need 
to know HTML. The latter also has facility for footnotes. But again, converting 
to RTF may be problematic and is not (as far as I remember)  officially 
supported.

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Re: Those Who Edit Word Documents on the Mac

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Yes it can. I have used NWP to write all sorts of documents including research 
papers
On 21 May 2013, at 18:26, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Can nices or how ever you spell that program edit footers and headers? I'm 
asking this as I might have to do this the next time, hopefully never, I might 
have to use APA formatting.  and since you have to do headers and footers and 
possibly running headers I'm hoping the answer is yes.
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> the attributes change  there is no way I know of for Voiceover to distinguish 
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Re: Those Who Edit Word Documents on the Mac

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Hi Gordon,

It is possible to add headers and footers etc in Pages and Nisus Writer 
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the attributes change  there is no way I know of for Voiceover to distinguish 
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Take care
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would people recommend as the easiest way of accomplishing this?  Docx is 
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Re: How to read a pdf file?

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Hi Catherine,
On 12 May 2013, at 10:30, Catherine Turner  
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I have a pdf I want to read and am wondering how to do this.  When I
opened it from Finder it opened in Preview and I was able to read some
of it but not all.

I don't use Preview as my default app for reading PDFs, so I don't know what 
the default settings are. However, you have two ways (that I know of) for 
reading your PDF.

1. With your PDF open, in the "View" menu you'll find an option called 
"Continuous read". It will have the shortcut "Command+1. With this option 
selected, you should be able to read your PDF quite happily.

Alternatively, if you want to read one page at a time, you can press 
"Command+2" for "Single Page", which is also in the "View" menu. You can then 
use your left and right arrow keys for moving backwards and forwards 
respectively. 

You may also be able to set either of these as your default viewing choice in 
Preview's Preferences
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Re: Nisus writer pro

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Hi Paula,

NWP is very accessible overall. I have used this app for years and have  found 
ways to accomplish pretty much everything VO. Unfortuantely, some things are 
not curently accessible, including tables and VO's acknowledgement of Headings.

Feel free to write back if I can  be of any more assistance and  advice/tips.

Take care
James 

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> Hi there
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> I was looking at Nisus Writer Pro.  I see that it is crazily expensive.  I
> was wondering if anybody thinks it is worth the price in terms of VO access
> to formatting options and tables etc.  Any input will be greatly
> appreciated.
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Re: good file renamed for mac?

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Hi Micheal,


have you tried name Mangler 
On 2 Apr 2013, at 10:19, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hey listers,
i'm going out of my mined trying to look for a batch renaming program for the 
mac.
i need a program that can do things like replacing all underlines with spaces 
in file names or replacing words.
i tried a pay for program called renamer but it wasn't very accessible and it 
couldn't do what i wanted.
any help would be fantastic

thanks

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Re: PDF Documents With Voiceover

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An excellent suggestion by Travis. Another suggestion is to use OCR software 
)if you have any). If the PDF is completely unreadable, you may get some 
results from using something like ABBeY FineReader.

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Re: anti virus and the mac

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Hi Terry
To my knowledge there are no "viruses" for OS X in the wild. I use "virus" in 
its traditional sense. That does not mean, I repeat "does not mean" that there 
are not other threats. Most of which are Internet-based. Many of  the 
prevention methods involve vigilance by users.  For threats such as tracking 
cookies etc, you could try macScan.

Apple does have some in-built security for checking the validity of apps. It is 
a dialogue that pops up, and there are one or two virus definitions in Apple's 
viruses database. 

The  need for anti-virus is a divisive issue among the OS X community, and 
although hi don't use any, I would suggest that if you want to use some then do 
so. There does seem to be a great deal of complacency among OS X users.

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Re: Tracking changes in Pages

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Hi Anne, 
An invaluable discovery, thank you :)

James 
On 16 Mar 2013, at 22:34, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello everyone,

I've just worked out how to manage tracking changes in Pages. You need to use a 
Braille display.

In the View menu, show the Comments and changes pane. This will display text 
boxes containing the Accept and Reject buttons, plus the name of the person who 
made the change and the date and time of the change, followed by the text that 
has been changed. There is a text box for each change made on a given page.

Interacting with the page will tell you how many items are on that page, and if 
there are more than 3, there's probably a change.

On your Braille display, you'll see the original text attached to the new text. 
You can check which text has been changed as it has no text attributes.

I hope this makes sense!

Cheers,

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Re: need pages help

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Hi Laurel

One of the many shortcomings of VoiceOver in this app unfortunately. When I've 
had this problem in the past, I have interacted with the "body", rooted the 
mouse to the area with VO+Command+F5 and then physically clicked the mouse. 
This has always fixed the problem for me if I remember correctly.

Hope this helps
James 
On 15 Mar 2013, at 00:09, Laurel Wheeler  wrote:

Ok all,
I need some help fixing something. Earlier I was working in a pages document. I 
use vo with the roter to navigate by word using my up and down arrows. I closed 
my computer and came back to it later. I opened the same pages document to 
continue working in it. I found that I could no longer navigate by word using 
my up and down arrows. I now have to use my left and right arrows. I also 
cannot write anything in this file, or edit it. What did I do, and how can I 
fix this?
Thanks,
Laurel
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Re: ML 10.8 update problem

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There isn't, occasionally, Mail will ask to be updated but you just need to 
click continue and this takes a few seconds.

It is often worth running a Disk Repair and/or a Permissions repair before and 
after an update as sometimes, things can get a little messy.

This is from memory, so i hope the steps are accurate. but to do this:

1. Restart your Mac - make sure you don't have any external drives connected.
2. Press and hold option are as you hear the "bong" sound.
3. Navigate once to the right with the arrow keys and press enter.
4. This will launch the recovery partition
5. After this has launched - maybe a few minutes, start VoiceOver - you might 
need to hold down the FN key if you have a Macbook model.
6. You should find the option to Repair Permissions etc in the dialogue that 
appears on-screen


Hope this helps 
James 
On 15 Mar 2013, at 02:17, "Cathy"  wrote:

Hello,

I began with ML from late 2012. 

I updated the software for my ML 10.8 on my Mac mini tonight. Then I tried
to open my mail ap only to get the message that this version of mail does
not work with ML. the ap would not even open so I could check the menu to
see if there was a separate menu item to update mail.  now what? Shouldn't
the mail program have automatically updated? I selected the button to update
all available software. If there is something else I must do to update my
mail ap,  please give me instructions on how to resolve this problem. only
reason I can even post is because my "other" unnamed computer is still
limping along.



Thanks, Cathy



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If they do, I think that it should be a user-controlled option. Personally I 
don't like the choice and control being taken out of my hands.

hmmm, thanks for that ancer josh. hope they can put something in one day
On 12/03/2013 1:10 AM, Josh Gregory wrote:
> The only way that I, personally, know of is Just to switch to that voice if 
> you have it downloaded and read the word, then switch back to whatever voice 
> you were previously using.
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>> hey listers,
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>> german can i make a VO german voice read the word?
>> i hope you understand my question.
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Re: an intro and a question

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Hi Michael 

it's james.

I think there is something called handBrake but I have never used it. Perhaps 
others on this ist can advise.
Best wishes 
James 
On 10 Mar 2013, at 20:07, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hello listers,
i've been on this list for two weeks and thought it was time for an intro.
my name is michael marshall and i'm from melbourne australia.
this week i will be bying a mac computer.
i have alot of questions witch i can't think of right now accept one.
does anyone know of a good program for ripping DVD's to audio?
i'm shore i will come up with many more questions.
thanks for any help

Michael
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Re: Using iPhone as a notetaker/simple word processor

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Hi Brian
That's a novel use of E-Mail. Out of interest though, have you looked at Drafts?

It is a app with no need to ave and no folder structure. When you open the app 
you are placed in a text area and you can type away to your heart's content. 
You can exit the app and your draft will be saved for searching later. It has a 
wealth of sharing options including E-Mail.

Take care
James 
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> I keep coming back to the relatively low-tech note-taking solution called 
> email. All of my email accounts are configured as IMAP or Exchange and are 
> set to push changes automatically, thus syncing between whichever device I'm 
> working on and whichever server is hosting that account and then propagating 
> out to my various devices. I can quickly open the mail client on any 
> platform, create a new mail message, enter text etc, and the message will 
> show up in my drafts folder for me to edit or copy or whatever anywhere I go.

> This isn't to say I don't use dropbox and google drive and other storage & 
> syncing services when I need to create and sync complex documents, but for 
> basic note-taking I now reflexively reach for email, probably because I'm so 
> familiar and comfortable with the various email clients and the reliability 
> and low-overhead required for modern email storage and syncing.

Cheers,
Bryan

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>> Any other brilliant solutions for combining hardware and software for a 
>> cheap notetaking solution?

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Re: Creating Getting Started Guides

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I'll try to start something at the weekend 
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Re: Creating Getting Started Guides

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Thanks for this David, as i say I'll certainly give it a go but this will take 
time. :)
On 7 Mar 2013, at 01:05, David Griffith  wrote:

This would be a demanding but important project if you can pull it off.

If you are to do this I think you should concentrate on where the current
gaps are.
There is no use spending time going over basics that others have already
done though you could reference for example the vision Australia podcasts in
whatever you produce so people could consult them if needed.

I would suggest a number of real world projects as walk throughs.

So for example 

. using Pages to produce an Academic Report.

This would not need to include basics like formatting selected text but
would perhaps cover.

1 Choosing an appropriate template.
2. Customising Formatting of Margins as necessary.
3. Developing Header Styles.
4.  Page numbering and formatting of page numbering styles.
5. Header and footer insertions and navigating to Header and footer to read
information with VO.
5.b. Footnote insertion and footnote reading.
6. Strategies for coping with VO and Mac awkwardness with Tables.
7.  Spell checking effectively.
8. using a dictionary with college work.
9. using a thesaurus with college projects.
10. Doing grammar checks.
11. Any strategies you could think of to replicate Text analyser function in
Windows Screenreaders which identify proofing anomalies.
12. general proof reading tips - for example doing global find and replace
of double spaces, replace all space full stop  with full stops etc so work
looks Ok for sighted reader.
13. using the word Count in document Inspector.
14. familiarisation with Document Inspector generally.
15. having a "save as"  capacity with duplicate file creation.
16. table of Content creation. I am not sure if Pages can automate this in
the same way as Microsoft Word but  I hope that it can.
17. Automated Index  creation, I am again not sure if Pages can do this , if
not then perhaps investigate what program can do these things.
18. Managing hyperlinks for referencing purposes in documents.
19. Listing keyboard shortcuts for things like force new page.
20 . Adjusting  line spacing, hopefully fine adjustment. I have to produce
work in for example, 1.15 line spacing, that is just over single but below
1.5 line spacing.
21 . Inserting diagrams / flow charts/ organisation charts. This can be done
accessibly with Word and  Project working  on the Windows platform. What is
the accessible Mac Equivalent?
22. controlling Printing - print in reverse order, print collated documents
etc.

There are probably loads more things but this would perhaps get you started
on Pages.
A similar list could be created for Numbers.

David Griffith







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Subject: Creating Getting Started Guides

Hi all,

If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been
discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if
anything?

If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that
this would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So,
it might take some time to emerge.

Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net

Thank you
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Re: Creating Getting Started Guides

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Hi everyone,

Well there seems to be  a fair amount of interest in this, so (takes a deep 
breath) I'll try to devise something. Please bare with me though folks as this 
is a big undertaking and will need to fit around my other commitments. I am not 
making excuses nor am I making  promises, just  being honest.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank those of you on list who have 
offered help. Be assured that I will certainly need it.

Finally, I doubt that this will be anything like the polished masterpieces that 
Take Control are known for.

Watch this space, no promises but I am certainly happy to try.

Take care

James 
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Re: Creating Getting Started Guides

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Hi Phil
Let's see if it works first, money is not my motive but taht is very kind thank 
you.
On 6 Mar 2013, at 21:52, Phil Halton  wrote:

Of course I'd like such a guide, I'd even be happy to pay a little.

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> Hi james, if you'd like some help with creating these providing people wanted 
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Thanks so much Ian, that would be great

Plesae write me off-list
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Creating Getting Started Guides

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Hi all,

If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been 
discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything?

If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this 
would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might 
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Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net

Thank you
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Re: iWork programs and accessibility

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Thank you anne

I'd forgoten about the former and did not know about the latter.

Hope you're both well.
James
On 6 Mar 2013, at 17:59, Anne Robertson  wrote:

You can actually read tables in pages with VO using one of two methods. There 
is a command to convert the table to text in the Format menu but you have to 
locate the table first.

The other method is to select the table, then open the inspector, select Wrap, 
Then, in the object placement section choose floating. The table then shows up 
as an additional item on the page and you can edit it.

As for Apple doing something about Pages accessibility, I've been pestering for 
years about this and not much has changed.

Cheers,

Anne


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Creating Getting Started Guides

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Hi all,

If I wre to try to create something along the lines people have been 
discussing, where would they want me to start? What should i assume if anything?

If I were to do this would anyone be interested? Please bare in mind that this 
would be a side project and would need to fit around other things. So, it might 
take some time to emerge.

Please write me off-list at: james.aus...@mac-access.net

Thank you
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Re: iWork programs and accessibility

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Hi Josh,

Pages is a wonderful application, though there are some serious limitations to 
what can be achieved with VoiceOver. At present, VO cannot see lists, footnotes 
or tables. It cannot also see headings in a document. It treats any heading as 
a piece of text. 

James
On 5 Mar 2013, at 17:52, Josh Gregory  wrote:

Pages seems okay, I just bought it yesterday and I haven't had a chance to 
really delve into it yet,   But from what I've seen of it it seems fairly 
accessible.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi gang:
> 
> How accessible is Pages, Keynote, and Numbers?
> 
> Thanks all over the place.
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Creating Getting started Guides was Re: iWork programs and accessibility

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Hi David, 

You're absolutely right. I have often thought of doing something and have 
started several times. However, working full-time makes this sort of thing very 
difficult. It needs a collaborative effort. Moreover, it does not seem that 
Apple are making progress in the iWork area as we have not seen a significant 
update for it in nearly 4 years. Also, there are just some things that 
VoiceOver cannot do in Pages at the moment, such as lists and footnotes and of 
course, tables.

I would be very happy to try to write something along the "Getting Started…" 
lines but as i say it would have to be a collaborative effort I think.

What do people think?

James
On 6 Mar 2013, at 13:25, David Griffith  wrote:

There is a desperate need for structured work to be done on building up
knowledge of Mac productivity software so that a Visually Impaired person
can fruitfully access it.

There should be getting Started guides to pages, Numbers, Key Note etc.
These could then be usefully supported with audio tutorials giving walk
through of essential tasks.

All the current guides I have seen assume you have sight.
At the moment the visually impaired user base Resources on Mac seems more
concentrated on advanced Music/ creative products rather than serious
advanced Office Productivity.  Basic word processing is fine but as you are
finding moving beyond this to spreadsheets and more advance usage is a
massive learning curve. I have had the identical problems that you are
experiencing.
Ideally it would be useful for Apple to produce more than chapter 7 of the
Voiceover guide on applications.
Alternatively organisation like the RNIB should be doing more to increase
the expertise in utilising or work arounding the issue to enhance Mac
productivity for visually impaired users.
This has happened in the USA where Visual Impairment charities produced
Getting Started with the iPhone but there is a yawning chasm of a gap in the
market where there is zilch support for Visually impaired users using the
Mac.
I guess this is chicken and egg. The Mac users of office productivity is
small compared to the iPhone.  This is likely to  continue whilst the
organisations do not support Mac access solutions.
Listening to the interview on Blind Bargains recently it appears that
organisation like the RNIB are focussing on Windows and NVDA for investment
in Access for their user base. This is understandable but I wish they
widened their horizons beyond Windows.

We need proper in depth guides to intermediate / advanced use of Mac
Productivity .  I think this is quite tough to expect visually Impaired
people to pull themselves all up individually by  their bootstraps.
There needs to be a proper structured project which builds tutorials on a
number of tasks  using Iworks, probably initially investigated with sighted
assistance until procedures to complete tasks without sighted help are
formulated.


David Griffith 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: 06 March 2013 01:23
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iWork programs and accessibility

hi,

I have both pages and numbers. 
I have been disappointed with numbers because several of the shortcut keys
have not worked for me. for example, I had some XLS files that numbers
opened up fine, and I could read the first sheet of data, but the command to
move from sheet to sheet has not worked for me.there were other shortcut
keys in the help file that also would not work for me.  
I found pages to be very complex too learn, but this could simply be due to
the fact that I am a new Mac user. I also constantly received "busy"
messages from both aps, but now that I just got more memory installed,
perhaps this will no longer happen. must check into that.



my two cents.

Cathy

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Hi George

You'll might find what your searching for under the "Login Items" in the User 
an Groups section of System Preferences.
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Re: Getting into safe mode

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Hi George   
On 4 Mar 2013, at 20:18, George Cham  wrote:
A few weeks ago, I installed anti virus software that caused my Mac to keep 
rebooting. 
This software has now been removed, but its still showing up in menu extras, 
and is still asking me to activate it. 
Can I use VoiceOver in safe mode to get rid of this? 

At the moment, VoiceOver cannot be used in Safe Mode, unless I have missed 
something very recently on that subject from the list.

When you removed the Anti-Virus app from your Applications folder, did you also 
remove all of its associated files in your Library/Application Support folder 
and your Library/Preferences folder? If not you might want to do that. As it is 
an Anti-Virus app, it may also have placed some files in other places like 
System and the root Library but I am not too familiar with how such 
applications work. There may also be an association in your Library/Launch 
Agents folder.

When I say your Library, I am referring to the Library folder that is 
associated with your user account.

You could also try simply going into System Preferences into your Login Items 
screen in the Users and Groups section and deleting the reference.

I hope this helps 
Take care
James 
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Re: Nail view

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Hi George

To open a new E-Mail message, I'm guessing you mean to open a blank E-Mail to 
send, press Command+N. You can find this in the File menu along with its 
shortcut key if you prefer to perform such commands from the menus. 

Take care
James 
On 28 Feb 2013, at 06:56, George Cham  wrote:

I'm up and running ,with mac at full speed.
I have  changed my mail view to classic view , and sort by date.
The  thing is , I' received emails last week, they are showing at the top of 
the list, while the recent ones are at the bottom .
Any idea why this is happening ?
Also , what Is the  command for opening a new message?
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Re: safe mode and voiceover

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Hi John,

Again you're correct. Sorry my explanation was not as clear as I thought.

Take care
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On 27 Feb 2013, at 17:00, John Panarese  wrote:

   I would leave that question to someone more versed with that.  The problem, 
though, would be that it still would not load in Safe Mode.  Single User mode 
would probably be the best avenue for that.


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On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> You're right, in SUM, VO does not load. I woner if there would be a way of 
> installing  SpeakUP or some other flavour of a Linux/UNIX Screen Reader given 
> that OS X is built on and is UNIX compliant. But I think that might be 
> outside of the scope of this list.
> 
> James 
> On 27 Feb 2013, at 16:47, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure about the Braille display.  I know VoiceOver does not load at 
> all.  When OS X safe-boots, it doesn't load any third-party items, such as 
> KEXTs, launch agents, launch daemons, startup items, fonts, any user login 
> items, or any user-specific launch agents.
> When you are in Save Mode, nothing but the bare essentials load.  This is 
> done for specific troubleshooting and you can't turn on any services through 
> Safe Mode.  You probably can in Single User mode, but this is a terminal line 
> only interface, and,a again, I don't believe VO loads.
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, JAMES AUSTIN  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Will,
>> 
>> I think I read somewhere that although sound drivers are not loaded in safe 
>> mode, a Braille Display should work with VO. I could have imagined reading 
>> this though.
>> 
>> Also, I am not sure if your problems are due exclusively to the fact that 
>> you have an SSD? I would think that there are plenty of folks who have an 
>> SSD drive in their Macs running something other than OS X. If this is 
>> exclusively an SSD issue though hopefully it will get sorted.
>> 
>> Out of interest, have you tried booting into a bootable back up of OS X and 
>> then tried partitioning your drive with  an MS DOS partition?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Take care
>> James
>> On 27 Feb 2013, at 15:02, William Lomas  wrote:
>> 
>> hi all when holding down shift on a mac at boot up we get in to safe mode 
>> yet voiceover does not work?
>> i read this can solve my disc problem with bootcamp not being able to 
>> partition. if flash ssd's are so unable to perform partitioning i worry in 
>> case i may in future possess a bigger mac hd and need to partition
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Re: safe mode and voiceover

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Hi John,

You're right, in SUM, VO does not load. I woner if there would be a way of 
installing  SpeakUP or some other flavour of a Linux/UNIX Screen Reader given 
that OS X is built on and is UNIX compliant. But I think that might be outside 
of the scope of this list.

James 
On 27 Feb 2013, at 16:47, John Panarese  wrote:

  I'm not sure about the Braille display.  I know VoiceOver does not load at 
all.  When OS X safe-boots, it doesn't load any third-party items, such as 
KEXTs, launch agents, launch daemons, startup items, fonts, any user login 
items, or any user-specific launch agents.
When you are in Save Mode, nothing but the bare essentials load.  This is done 
for specific troubleshooting and you can't turn on any services through Safe 
Mode.  You probably can in Single User mode, but this is a terminal line only 
interface, and,a again, I don't believe VO loads.

Take Care

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> Hi Will,
> 
> I think I read somewhere that although sound drivers are not loaded in safe 
> mode, a Braille Display should work with VO. I could have imagined reading 
> this though.
> 
> Also, I am not sure if your problems are due exclusively to the fact that you 
> have an SSD? I would think that there are plenty of folks who have an SSD 
> drive in their Macs running something other than OS X. If this is exclusively 
> an SSD issue though hopefully it will get sorted.
> 
> Out of interest, have you tried booting into a bootable back up of OS X and 
> then tried partitioning your drive with  an MS DOS partition?
> 
> 
> 
> Take care
> James
> On 27 Feb 2013, at 15:02, William Lomas  wrote:
> 
> hi all when holding down shift on a mac at boot up we get in to safe mode yet 
> voiceover does not work?
> i read this can solve my disc problem with bootcamp not being able to 
> partition. if flash ssd's are so unable to perform partitioning i worry in 
> case i may in future possess a bigger mac hd and need to partition
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Re: safe mode and voiceover

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Hi Will,

I think I read somewhere that although sound drivers are not loaded in safe 
mode, a Braille Display should work with VO. I could have imagined reading this 
though.

Also, I am not sure if your problems are due exclusively to the fact that you 
have an SSD? I would think that there are plenty of folks who have an SSD drive 
in their Macs running something other than OS X. If this is exclusively an SSD 
issue though hopefully it will get sorted.

Out of interest, have you tried booting into a bootable back up of OS X and 
then tried partitioning your drive with  an MS DOS partition?



Take care
James
 On 27 Feb 2013, at 15:02, William Lomas  wrote:

hi all when holding down shift on a mac at boot up we get in to safe mode yet 
voiceover does not work?
i read this can solve my disc problem with bootcamp not being able to 
partition. if flash ssd's are so unable to perform partitioning i worry in case 
i may in future possess a bigger mac hd and need to partition

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Re: keeps saying files can't be moved

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Hi Will,

You're explanation is not very helpful. What exactly are you trying to move and 
how are you trying to do it? Under which OS?

If you could provide us with a little more information, we might be more able 
to help.

Hope all is well apart from that.
Take care
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On 27 Feb 2013, at 10:22, William Lomas  wrote:

hi all why does my macbook air keep saying files can not be moved?
one minute bootcamp works the next it doesn't i am not prepared to restore the 
whole mac again just to sort out this issue it is crazy smile

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Re: I'm back

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Hi George,
On 25 Feb 2013, at 09:55, George Cham  wrote:

Oh and where do I find the question mark symble .

Assuming that you are using a QWERTY keyboard and that you Touch Type, the 
question mark is writen by holding down the shift key with  the little finger 
on your right hand moving down from the semi colon.

If you are using an AZERTY keyboard you'll find the question mark by again 
holding down the shift key and moving your right index finger down from J

hope this helps 
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Re: Questions About YouTube

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Hi Desi,

I'm sure you've checked this, but what web browser is your husband using? As of 
Lion, I think, Apple stopped shipping Flash with OS X. Quite a few videos still 
use Flash on Youtube. You can get around this by using Google Crome.

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Re: Installing applications

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On 23 Feb 2013, at 19:45, George Cham  wrote:

I don't understand what you mean by open the image and mount it to the computer 
list. 

>From what I've read so far George, this is your first foray with the Mac, so 
>please forgive this rather long explanation. Hopefully, it will help you 
>understand a little of what is going on. 

When you download an app for the Mac, 99 times out of 100, you will download a 
Disk Image (.DMG) file. You can think of this file  as a .zip file if you like. 
As you have noticed, simply placing this file into your "Applications" folder 
doesn't result in you being able to use the app. You first need to open the 
image file. 

The default location for downloads on the Mac is conveniently "Downloads". So 
if you are in the Finder, which incidentally is running constantly, press 
Command+Option+L to open the "Downloads" folder. Once you've found the .DMG 
file, press either Command+O or Command+Down Arrow to open it. You'll be 
presented with a Finder window and in there you'll find your app, any 
supporting files and a shortcut to your "Applications" folder. Simply copy the 
app Command+C to your "Applications" folder (Command+Shift+A and paste it there 
with Command+V.

You can then use the app to your heart's content, but you will also want to 
"eject" the image. When you opened it originally, the DMG acted like a 
mountable disk, placing an icon containing the app on the Desktop. To get to 
the Desktop quickly from within the Finder, press Command+Shift+D. To eject the 
  Disk Image, press Command+E on the image. After a few seconds, the image 
should no longer be on the Desktop. You can then happily delete it from your 
"Downloads" folder with Command+Backspace, exiling it to the Trash. 

Hope this helps  and feel free to write if I can be of any further assistance. 
That goes for the list too, we're all here to help.
Take care
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Re: an ulternative to SArchiver?

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It has always compressed for me :) I'll try to send you a step-by-step guide if 
you like. 
James 
On 11 Feb 2013, at 17:12, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Yeah. it does not compress even though it says it can. i have the free version 
from the app store. and SArchiver crashes so much on my system that I just gave 
up trying. lol!
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> 
> We still use SArchiver. You can  compress to RAR and a range of other formats 
> including self-extracting zip files. 
> 
> To anser your question though, have you tried Stuffit Expander?
> Take care
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> Hello to all. Is there an alternative to sarchiver now that the site is dead? 
> I like its capability and i'm glad i spent the money on it, how ever i cannot 
> get any new updates even though it shows there is one. I use the mac 
> compresser, but there are times where i really want to compress to rar and 
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> 
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Re: British airways website and VO

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Hi  Dónal

I use it very regularly, though never for indirect flights. What mode are you 
using DOM or Groups?
James

On 11 Feb 2013, at 16:45, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone tried using the BA website with voiceover?  I'm trying to book 
flights which are not direct, and VO doesn't seem to be able to navigate the 
flight selection tables.

Cheers,

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Re: an ulternative to SArchiver?

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Hi everyone,

We still use SArchiver. You can  compress to RAR and a range of other formats 
including self-extracting zip files. 

To anser your question though, have you tried Stuffit Expander?
Take care
James 
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Hello to all. Is there an alternative to sarchiver now that the site is dead? I 
like its capability and i'm glad i spent the money on it, how ever i cannot get 
any new updates even though it shows there is one. I use the mac compresser, 
but there are times where i really want to compress to rar and cab and 7zip and 
all of that.

Any suggestions out there in internet land?

Take care all.

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Re: Questions about pages-urgent

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Good evening Marcos
On 9 Feb 2013, at 23:27, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:

firstly, how can I rename the document that I saved with the wrong name?

In the "File" menu, you'll find an option called "Rename".

Second, I need to use a double space between lines but can't find this option 
in the formatting menu, how can I do this?
Firstly, make sure that you've selected your document with Command+A, or the 
bits that you want double-spaced.

The key to Pages is not the menus. It is the "Inspector".

1. Command+Option+I to launch the inspector.
2.  Navigate to the "Text" tab and press VO+Space
3. The "Text" option should be selected by default, but if not you'll find it 
next to the "lists" option. VO+Space to select it.
4. You'll find a slider labelled "Line Spacing" in this window. If you VO right 
from here, you'll eventually find an option that  says "Single Line Spacing. 
There is a pop-up menu here. When you open this with VO+Space, you an choose 
"Double-space" from the available options.
5. Close the inspector and your document should now be double-spaced.

Final question, how can I make VO read the type of letter (arian, times, etc) 
that I am using?
Make sure that you are interacting with the document, VO+Shift+space. You an 
then press VO+T to hear the font your document is written in.

Hope this helps 
Take care
James

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Re: verbosity levels

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Try changing your Verbosity level to "Medium" or "Low"
On 7 Feb 2013, at 12:08, William Lomas  wrote:

hi all whenever i delete an email i keep hearing now in …. and then inbox of my 
account. can i stop VO please under mountain lion saying this?

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Re: Word processing software

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Hi Sarah,

Are you a Braillist?

In my experience, Braille is the best way to get a handle on this sort of 
thing. As has probably been said here, different citation styles require very 
different things. Parenthetical citation versus footnotes for example. (I hate 
the former personally) Even within particular departments, different lecturers 
sometimes like slightly different twists on their preferred citation method. 
I'm sure you've done this, but why not ask your particular lecturers for an 
example of each type of citation that they want. That way, when you hand your 
paper in, they should mark you down if you have followed their examples.

I have not yet tried creating a template, but yes, i believe  that you can 
create just about any sort of template you want.

Take care
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Re: Word processing software

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Hi everyone, 

As has been said already, Pages has the potential to be a fabulous app and for 
plain writing it is. By "plain" writing, I mean where you don't need to add 
footnotes, lists and the like. While you can add them, VoiceOver doesn't 
recognise them as such and will not let you know that they are there.If for 
instance you insert a bulleted list, the entire list will just be treated as 
normal text. On the other hand, running headers are certainly possible and work 
really well. They are a little fiddly to get set up though if memory serves.

I don't know if other users will agree with me, but I think the key to learning 
Pages is learning that "the Inspector" (Command+Option+I) is your friend. It 
allows you to have fine-grained control over the document. As i and others have 
said though, the short-comings are with VoiceOver, not Pages.

As Lynne said, Nisus Writer Pro is your friend and is also an extremely good 
product. We use both here. There are some accessibility issues with NWP, which 
I can talk about if anyone is interested, but 99% of the app is fully 
accessible with VoiceOver.

Take care
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Re: Reading title of window?

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Good morning Catherine,

As you navigate with Command+Tab, VoiceOver will tel you which application you 
are moving to, as I'm sure you know. To read the title of a window, press 
VO+F2. Pressing this twice quickly will bring up a list of open windows. To 
know what the current application is and how many are running press VO+F1. 
Pressing this twice quickly, will bring up a list of applications that you can 
then navigate with the arrow keys much like the list that appears with the 
above VO+F2 Command, when it is pressed twice quicly. 

You'll find both of these commands in the VoiceOver Commands menu which is 
VO+h+h.

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Re: accounting/bookkeeping/budget software for Mac?

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There's a finance app called Chronicle. You can get it from: 
http://chronicleapp.com

I'm not sure if this is what you're after, but it might be worth a look. If i 
remember correctly, it ws quite accessible when we last looked at it.

Take care
James 
On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:53, cait furness  wrote:

Hi Lori,
Some people use tables for this.  I think some are using Bean.. Not sure what 
else is out there.
Caitlyn

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> Hi everyone, 
> 
> What software do you recommend for a blind user (using voice over only and no 
> large print) to accomplish bookkeeping and budgeting work (keeping track of 
> finances)? 
> Is there something that you find user-friendly and would recommend? 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> - Laurie 
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Re: VoiceOver memory usage query

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Glen,

Yes, I'll try that thanks. I usually use Fred, but at the moment, I'm using 
Alex. 
On 5 Jan 2013, at 19:12, Glenn  wrote:

James,
Maybe you can switch to a smaller voice, like you can on IOS devices.
I'm not sure of the difference, it may be like 8 KHZ instead of 48, or 
whatever the sizes are.
I use the smaller one on my iPhone for better performance.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: VoiceOver memory usage query


I wouldn't  think it would take up that much memory, if any at all. I'm not 
sure to be honest though.

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I haven't done any research on this yet, but I'm curious. On this 2009 
> MacBook (though I'm sure the hardware is older), VoiceOver is currently 
> using 134+ MB. Baring in mind that I only have 2GB of RAM in this machine, 
> is this normal?
> 
> For those of you who are curious, you can find out by launching Activity 
> Monitor. The "Real Memory" column is the last one on the right of the 
> table.
> 
> Thanks for feeding my curiosity
> Take care
> James
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VoiceOver memory usage query

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Hi folks,

I haven't done any research on this yet, but I'm curious. On this 2009 MacBook 
(though I'm sure the hardware is older), VoiceOver is currently using 134+ MB. 
Baring in mind that I only have 2GB of RAM in this machine, is this normal?

For those of you who are curious, you can find out by launching Activity 
Monitor. The "Real Memory" column is the last one on the right of the table. 

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Re: Two Questions about Pages

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Hi Chris,

Pages is a brilliant app isn't it?

1.  In Pages, how do I format a line of text as a heading level 1, 2, 3, etc.  

This is a little keyboard-intensive, but the steps to do this are as follows:

1. Once you've got your text, press Command+Shift+T. This opens the styles 
drawer.
2. Press VO+Shift+up arrow  until you hear "stop interacting with scroll area"
3. Navigate with VO+left arrow once until you hear "drawer. Interact with the 
drawer with VO+Shift+Down Arrow
4.  Navigate down with VO until you hear  "paragraph styles". Interact with 
this.
5. You can then use VO+Down Arrow until you come to "Heading 1"
6. Root the mouse pointer to this with VO+Command+F5.
7. Press VO+Space and go down the menu to "Hot key".
8. You can then select one of the "f" keys as your shortcut for the heading.
9. Once you've navigated back to and interacted with the "body" of the 
document, find the text you want to make a heading level 1 and press F1.


2.  I have a list of items which I put one item per line.  Now, I want to 
select that whole chunk of text, which I've done, but now, what do I need to do 
in order to make that into a bulleted list?

Here you go:
1. Bring up the Inspector with Command+Option+I.
2. Navigate to the "Text" tab and activate it with VO+Space.
3. Then navigate to the "list" option and activate this. 
4. You'll find a pop-up menu here for bulleted lists. Select the one you want 
and you're god to go.

Bare in mind though, that VO will not recognise that the text is in a list. One 
of Apple's missed and necessary accessibility improvements for Pages.

Feel free to contact me if I can help further. My Skype is saulky1984, but 
please let me know who you are if you'd like to talk with me.
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Re: deleting emails

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Hi Micheal, 

As well as Sarah's  suggestion, if you're using an iPhone, you can also tap the 
"move" button once you've selected the E-Mails you want rid of. "Move" will  
bring up a new screen and let you put the offending E-Mails in the Trash.

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Re: Alternative Text editors

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Hi,

Fraise may be of interest to you. It is the successor to Smultron. I do not 
have a link for it, but Google should be able to find it for you. 

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Re: Snow lepord and security

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Hi Matthew,
On 10 Dec 2012, at 18:07, Matthew Dyer  wrote:
Does anyone know if apple is planing to stop releasing security updates or have 
they already stopped?

As far as I remember, Apple has now stopped supporting Snow Leopard. So any 
holes that have not been patched will remain unpatched. 

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Re: Amadeus Pro / WavePad Question

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Evening Gordon,
On 21 Nov 2012, at 19:12, Gordon Smith  wrote:
Does anybody know whether either Amadeus Pro or WavePad can save by markers 
into individual files?

yes, Amadeus Pro can do this. If I've understood your question correctly, you 
want to  save multiple files without  having to save each independently. Is 
that right? You can  do this by setting markers, which you can name. Then, once 
you've finished your recording, there is an option to  "split" the file 
according to the markers. This will result in several files, named according to 
the markers you've set. 

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Re: iPhone eMail help, deleting messages

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Hi folks,

For those using GMail, as TJ says, there is a "delete all" button in the 
"Trash" mailbox. You have to explicitly move the messages there first though. 
The only other service I hae going through Mail is my work E-Mail on an 
Exchange server. With Exchange, you can delete messages irectly from the Inbox.

HTH
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Re: Amadeus Pro Update

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Hi Ian
On 17 Nov 2012, at 04:49, Ian McNamara  wrote:
when I record something then play it back to test it nothing is coming out. It 
is as if the application is recording a sound file but nothing seems to be 
being detected with the microphone. 

I know you said that you've not changed any settings, but are you certain that 
the app isn't using the Line In or SoundFlower output options? Sometimes, I 
find that the Output tab in Sound for some reason ends up using one of these 
without my knowledge.

HTH
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Amadeus Pro Update

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Afternoon folks, 

There is an update  in the App Store which fixes the MP3 issue. Apparently it 
was related to the Sandboxing that Apple uses to aid security.

I'm not sure why we bought it from theApp Store.


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Why VoiceOver reads some PDFs strangely was Re: Skim Accessibility

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Hello Dónal et al,
On 9 Nov 2012, at 12:46, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
  It seems to apply weird hyphenation patterns and cause stilted or interrupted 
speech.

I may be wrong here, so please feel free to correct me, but I think  that this 
problem  stems in part, from the use of ligatures. If I remember, these  are 
italicised finishings to certain letters, also called Serifs. When i spoke to 
an Apple Accessibility team member about this, they  explained what they were, 
and that certain types of font employ them  for stylistic reasons. I.e. They 
look nice, but they make VoiceOver ignore the space between letters and words 
that use them. 

Dónal, if you'd like to write me off-list, I might be able to help you avoid 
them in your LaTeX-created PDFs. For everyone else, if you're creating PDFs 
yourselves, either from Pages or another word processor, try using fonts 
without Serifs, such as Arial or Times. There are others,  and you can find 
them if you do a Google search for something like "sans serif fonts os x"

Hope this helps

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Re: Could some of VoiceOver's web problems be hardware related? was Re: Has anyone found the need to consistently restart VoiceOver when loading webpages?

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I wonder if this is hardware-related? The only reason I ask, is that back in 
the days of 10.4 Tiger, we all had the same problems. Nowadays, some of us 
experience problems whilst others don't. Moreover, the problems are quite 
diverse.

Thanks
James 

On 8 Nov 2012, at 11:51, william lomas  wrote:

happens all the time with me
otherwise it reads link URL itc
very irritating so this coupled with my crashing banking site is forcing me to 
use windows more and more, and drift way from mac

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> Morning folks,
> 
> When clicking on links, has anyone else noticed the seemingly constant need 
> to restart VoiceOver under Safari 6x? It's as if even though the page loads, 
> VoiceOver does not register it. Restarting VoiceOver seems to remedy this. 
> 
> Just curious.
> 
> Thank you
> Take care
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Has anyone found the need to consistently restart VoiceOver when loading webpages?

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Morning folks,

When clicking on links, has anyone else noticed the seemingly constant need to 
restart VoiceOver under Safari 6x? It's as if even though the page loads, 
VoiceOver does not register it. Restarting VoiceOver seems to remedy this. 

Just curious.

Thank you
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Re: Hearing Apple Menu when typing in ML or Lion.

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Hi everyone

Nor can I, although I have experienced the first of these problems. At the 
time, I don't think i brushed the Mousepad, though I cannot be sure. This is 
certainly a bizarre bug. You might want to check the Console 
(/Applications/Utilities) the next time this happens and see if anything 
untoward turns up there.

Take care
James 
On 31 Oct 2012, at 21:26, Zachary Kline  wrote:

Hi,
I've never seen anything like this before. It almost sounds like your mouse 
cursor is set to move the VoiceOver cursor, which it might do if you 
accidentally brushed the trackpad. I can't think of anything else which could 
be causing this.
Yours,
Zack.
On Oct 31, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Sean Murphy  wrote:

> Hello All.
> 
> When I type in the edit field of a filename, sending a message via my Jabber 
> IM client and other places. I regularly hear apple menu being spoken when I 
> type, navigate or delete characters. I have had sighted assistance to see if 
> there is anything on the screen and they cannot see anything. The menu where 
> the "apple menu" is located is in the normal place.
> 
> Any ideas why this is the case?
> 
> Also I am finding under Mountain Lion I have to press vi-space twice before 
> it will select items. Such in the dock or buttons. Anyone else seen this?
> 
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Re: renaming folders&files, and looking for a program

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Hi Melissa,

If you choose to use SArchiver, under the  "Misc" options in Preferences, 
you'll find a checkbox called "Move archive to Trash after openeing".

That should solve your problem

Thanks 
Warmest wishes 
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Re: Question about setting a default mail account on a MacBook

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On 11 Sep 2012, at 17:03, James AUSTIN  wrote:

Hi Debbie, 
On 11 Sep 2012, at 16:45, Debbie April Yuille  wrote:
How do I rout the mouse?

Press VO+Command+F5

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Re: Backing off Apple software updates

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On 9 Sep 2012, at 21:09, James AUSTIN  wrote:

Hi Gordon,
On 9 Sep 2012, at 17:19, Gordon Smith  wrote:
Respectfully, I disagree on this point, and I'll tell you why.  If, as 
sometimes happens, updated versions make changes to preference files which 
point to the same application name as the older versions did, but which have 
distinctly updated formatting, replacing the older app won't solve your problem 
necessarily.  In fact, it could actually cause horrendous problems.  This 
comment is based on personal experience.


I was not aware of this, thank you for for letting me know. :)

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Re: Backing off Apple software updates

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On 9 Sep 2012, at 16:40, James AUSTIN  wrote:

Hi Phil,
On 9 Sep 2012, at 16:27, Phil Halton  wrote:
Is there a way to back off an update and revert to a previous version once 
you've installed the update?

Before updating, make a copy of the  previous version. That way, if the new 
version breaks something, you should be able to replace it easily enough. 

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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

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Hi Caitlyn
On 8 Sep 2012, at 20:13, Cait Furness  wrote:
Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?

You might also want to  check the Application Support folder and your 
Preferences folder, which you'll find in your Library folder.

If your own Library folder is hidden, which is the default setting since Lion, 
then do the following;

1. In the Finder, press Command+Shift+G. This will bring up the "Go To" 
dialogue. 
2. Type the following, without the quotes" "~/Library/ There is a slash in this 
quoted text., so you might just want to copy the quoted text.
3. You'll find the Application Support and Preferences folders here.
4. Within the Preferences folder, you're looking for a file called something 
like: "com.google.chrome.plist" There may be a few of these files. You can 
delete them and then empty your trash. This should alleviate your problem. 

Warmest wishes 
James 

Hi,
Ok, in a moment of weakness, I stupidly downloaded google chrome and installed 
it on my mac.  Now, I want to uninstall it completely off my system as there 
are things I don't like about it after all.  I already went to my applications 
folder and binned the app, but for some reason, my mac still thinks it's 
residing someplace on the system and tries to open links in it every time I 
click on a link from mail.  What's more, if I do click on a link from within 
mail, it actually *does* open chrome.  Now, I don't know where it's finding 
this thing, since I uninstalled it from the apps folder and then emptied my 
trash and restarted my system!

Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?

Thanks!

Caitlyn

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Re: Problem with downloads and documents folder in the Doc

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Hi Gary,

On 3 Sep 2012, at 21:02, gary price  wrote:

Whenever I go into the Doc and select either the Downloads or Documents folder, 
when I press Enter to open these folders it does not work!
Please is there a way to open these folders from the Doc? Any help appreciated.

Sure. When you go to the dock and are on the folder you want to open, first 
press Command+Shift+M. You can then navigate the list until you hear "list". 
Press Enter on this. You'll have to go back to the Dock, and do this for the 
other folder too. The next time you want to open either of these folders from 
the Dock, you will be able to see  their contents. 

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Thanks!

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Re: How to stop VoiceOver changing pitch

[JAMES AUSTIN]

Hi Chris, 

I think this is a long-standing bug with VO. I have mentioned it to Apple 
several times, as have others on this list.

Take care
James 
On 1 Sep 2012, at 13:15, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Hello all.
How do I stop VoiceOver from changing pitch when on a web site? Take for 
example the app store. When you are on the search edit text, the word "search" 
is spoken at a lower pitch. I would like to not have this please.
This is under Mountain Lion on a Macbook Pro 13 inch.
Thanks very much if you can help with this. It will be greatly appreciated.
Please respond as soon as possible. Thanks!
Chris.
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Re: stopping anouncement of text color and size

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Hi Mark,

you can do this quickly, but pressing VO+V and then by cycling o "text 
attributes" and setting it to "nothing".

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On 27 Aug 2012, at 19:16, Mark Furness  wrote:

How does one do as the subject line asks?

Mark
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Re: Find next control

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Hi Paul,
On 27 Aug 2012, at 16:34, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
Is there any way to set up a VoiceOver hotkey which would read the next/prior 
control on a web page? I want this to read the next edit box or the next button 
or the next check box or the next radio button. The WindowEyes screen reader on 
that other OS had this function which I found very useful particularly for 
doing web searches or entering data in a web page. I see that Safari has the 
idea of web spots and land marks but I am not clear what these are and whether 
they relate in any way to controls. 

You can find the "Next Control" with VO+Command+J. The other commands you want 
can be found in the VO Help menu, under the "Find" option. Unfortunately, many 
of these commands do not have pre-defined shortcut keys. You'll need to set 
these in the keyboard manager.

HTH
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Re: Can VO speak page numbers while reading a pages document?

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Hi TJ

As you read down your document, VO will announce the number of the current 
page. You can also create a table of contents, which I'll come to in a moment. 
However, the current level of access in Pages with VO, does not, as you've 
noticed, extend too far. Hopefully, this will change with the imminent release 
of Mountain Lion.

To create a Table of Contents, you first need to turn your section/chapter 
titles into headings. 

1.  Press Command+Shift+T to show the Styles Drawer.
2. Stop interacting with your document and use VO+Left arrow until you find the 
Styles Drawer
3. Interact with the Paragraph Styles Table
4. Use VO+Down Arrow  until you find Heading
5. Press VO+Space if you want to use this Heading. (Below this one are other 
heading levels)
6. Navigate to Shortcut Key which as a submenu. Here you can choose  from the 
available F keys.
7.  Once you've set your headings, stop interacting and navigating back to your 
document.
8. Once you've found the appropriate chapter and heading titles, simply press 
the relevant F key.
9. Create a blank page for your Table of Contents
10. Press Command+Option+I to bring up the Inspector.
11. Select the Document Radio Button Then select the TOC tab
12. You need to select the the various heading levels in the table. This should 
then create your TOC.

Hope this helps
James 

On 12 Jul 2012, at 20:45, Timothy J. Meloy  wrote:

> Hi all,
> The subject line says it all.  Can VO be set to speak page numbers as you're 
> reading through a document in pages?  I need to fdetermine which page of my 
> document on which each of its sections begins, so I can write a table of 
> contents for the document.  I turned on text attributes in verbosity under 
> the VO utility, but that didn't do the trick.  Any suggestions would be 
> helpful.
> Thanks,
> T.J.
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