[Mac-access]: Voice Over Issue With The New iPad Air 2

[Renee M. Zelickson]

I have just purchased the new iPad and have escalated some issues regarding 
Voice Over not performing as it did on my old one, and was wondering if anyone 
has experienced the following:

1. In the Apple Store App:  After selecting a store from the list, a pop up 
appears with the button to confirm the store selection. when double tapping, 
the app crashes.
2. In the App Store:  The only way I have been able to get rid of the pop up 
after selecting an app to download and install, is by turning off Voice Over.
I turn it back on again when I want to make another selection.
3. While I realize that some guessers have changed, such as the way you close 
apps, I am noticing that Voice Over bounces around.

I have demonstrated these at the store, because I would rather the feed back 
come from them; it seems to go further.

Thanks
Renee
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

Oh, Okay, that's why I didn't see it.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Brenda it's inside the oval shaped recess above the volume controls. You 
have to use your fingernail to flick it up or down.


Sent from my iPad

> On 15 Mar 2014, at 14:56, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
>
> I didn't see a third switch there. I see one for volume up and one for 
> down
> and I did't see another.
>
> Take care,
>
> brenda
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Eleanor Burke" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:57 AM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> Isnt there a physical orientation lock button on the side near the volume 
> on
> the iPad?  There is one on my iPad mini.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
>> Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to
>> touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right
>> with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth
>> and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?
>> Cheers
>> Thuy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis
>>> actually
>>> a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing
>>> thing,
>>> that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we
>>> reinstall
>>> Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not
>>> come
>>> over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got
>>> something
>>> to work with now.
>>>
>>>   I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in
>>> IOS7.1?
>>> I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted
>>> it
>>> to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to
>>> the
>>> right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing
>>> locked
>>> in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
>>> setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "alberto" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>>
>>>
>>> You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general,
>>> reset,
>>> erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad 
>>> by
>>> hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not
>>> use
>>> iTunes.
>>> Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
>>> actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone
>>> too.
>>> You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say,
>>>> the
>>>> latest back up?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>>
>>>> Brenda
>>>>
>>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "alberto" 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud
>>>> instead
>>>> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up
>>>> or
>>>> in this case set up the iPa

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Brenda it's inside the oval shaped recess above the volume controls. You have 
to use your fingernail to flick it up or down.


Sent from my iPad

> On 15 Mar 2014, at 14:56, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
> 
> I didn't see a third switch there. I see one for volume up and one for down 
> and I did't see another.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> brenda
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Eleanor Burke" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:57 AM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
> Isnt there a physical orientation lock button on the side near the volume on
> the iPad?  There is one on my iPad mini.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
>> Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to
>> touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right
>> with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth
>> and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?
>> Cheers
>> Thuy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis
>>> actually
>>> a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing
>>> thing,
>>> that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we
>>> reinstall
>>> Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not
>>> come
>>> over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got
>>> something
>>> to work with now.
>>> 
>>>   I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in
>>> IOS7.1?
>>> I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted
>>> it
>>> to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to
>>> the
>>> right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing
>>> locked
>>> in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
>>> setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Brenda
>>> 
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "alberto" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general,
>>> reset,
>>> erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by
>>> hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not
>>> use
>>> iTunes.
>>> Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
>>> actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone
>>> too.
>>> You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say,
>>>> the
>>>> latest back up?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care,
>>>> 
>>>> Brenda
>>>> 
>>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "alberto" 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud
>>>> instead
>>>> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up
>>>> or
>>>> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
>>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for
>>>>> example,
>>>>> let's use Voice

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Sorry should have qualified that if you have the ipad in a case.


Sent from my iPad

> On 15 Mar 2014, at 14:56, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
> 
> I didn't see a third switch there. I see one for volume up and one for down 
> and I did't see another.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> brenda
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Eleanor Burke" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:57 AM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
> Isnt there a physical orientation lock button on the side near the volume on
> the iPad?  There is one on my iPad mini.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
>> Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to
>> touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right
>> with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth
>> and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?
>> Cheers
>> Thuy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis
>>> actually
>>> a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing
>>> thing,
>>> that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we
>>> reinstall
>>> Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not
>>> come
>>> over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got
>>> something
>>> to work with now.
>>> 
>>>   I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in
>>> IOS7.1?
>>> I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted
>>> it
>>> to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to
>>> the
>>> right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing
>>> locked
>>> in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
>>> setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Brenda
>>> 
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "alberto" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general,
>>> reset,
>>> erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by
>>> hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not
>>> use
>>> iTunes.
>>> Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
>>> actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone
>>> too.
>>> You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say,
>>>> the
>>>> latest back up?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care,
>>>> 
>>>> Brenda
>>>> 
>>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "alberto" 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud
>>>> instead
>>>> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up
>>>> or
>>>> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
>>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for
>>>>> example,
>>>>> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and
>>>&g

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

I didn't see a third switch there. I see one for volume up and one for down 
and I did't see another.

Take care,

brenda
- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Isnt there a physical orientation lock button on the side near the volume on
the iPad?  There is one on my iPad mini.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


> Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to
> touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right
> with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth
> and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?
> Cheers
> Thuy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
>>
>> I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis
>> actually
>> a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing
>> thing,
>> that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we
>> reinstall
>> Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not
>> come
>> over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got
>> something
>> to work with now.
>>
>>I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in
>> IOS7.1?
>> I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted
>> it
>> to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to
>> the
>> right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing
>> locked
>> in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
>> setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brenda
>>
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "alberto" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>
>>
>> You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general,
>> reset,
>> erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by
>> hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not
>> use
>> iTunes.
>> Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
>> actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone
>> too.
>> You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say,
>>> the
>>> latest back up?
>>>
>>> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "alberto" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud
>>> instead
>>> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up
>>> or
>>> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for
>>>> example,
>>>> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and
>>>> I
>>>> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but
>>>> the
>>>> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
>>>> that
>>>> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But
>>>> I'm
>>>> not
>>>> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not
>>>> transfer
>>>> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not
>>>> transfer
>>>> either and accounts did not trans

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

You helped me. Thanks. I sure do appreciate this. Now, it'll be sensible.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to 
touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right 
with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth 
and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
>
> I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis 
> actually
> a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing thing,
> that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we reinstall
> Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not come
> over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got 
> something
> to work with now.
>
>I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in IOS7.1?
> I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted 
> it
> to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to the
> right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing 
> locked
> in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
> setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "alberto" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, 
> reset,
> erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by
> hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not 
> use
> iTunes.
> Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
> actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone too.
> You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>
>> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, the
>> latest back up?
>>
>> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Brenda
>>
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "alberto" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>
>>
>> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud 
>> instead
>> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up 
>> or
>> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
>>> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and 
>>> I
>>> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but
>>> the
>>> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
>>> that
>>> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm
>>> not
>>> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not 
>>> transfer
>>> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not 
>>> transfer
>>> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "David Griffith" 
>>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
>>> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never 
>>> heard
>>> of
>>> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
>>> preferences
>>> for each device under iTunes.
>>>
>>> You can of course make the preferences identica

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

I'll surely try it. I've got to keep that thing from moving every time I 
accidently tilt it slightly. This has gott to stop! It's as if the keyboard 
moves. Thanks.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to 
touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right 
with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth 
and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
>
> I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis 
> actually
> a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing thing,
> that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we reinstall
> Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not come
> over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got 
> something
> to work with now.
>
>I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in IOS7.1?
> I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted 
> it
> to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to the
> right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing 
> locked
> in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
> setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "alberto" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, 
> reset,
> erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by
> hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not 
> use
> iTunes.
> Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
> actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone too.
> You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>
>> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, the
>> latest back up?
>>
>> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Brenda
>>
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "alberto" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>
>>
>> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud 
>> instead
>> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up 
>> or
>> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
>>> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and 
>>> I
>>> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but
>>> the
>>> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
>>> that
>>> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm
>>> not
>>> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not 
>>> transfer
>>> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not 
>>> transfer
>>> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "David Griffith" 
>>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
>>> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never 
>>> heard
>>> of
>>> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
>>> p

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Eleanor Burke]

Ah right, thanks for that.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi Eleanor. I usually like to keep that switch set for quick muting on the 
iPad.

Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPad

On 15 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Eleanor Burke"  
wrote:


Isnt there a physical orientation lock button on the side near the volume 
on the iPad?  There is one on my iPad mini.
- Original Message - From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to 
touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right 
with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, 
bluetooth and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?

Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPhone


On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:

I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis 
actually
a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing 
thing,
that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we 
reinstall
Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not 
come
over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got 
something

to work with now.

  I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in 
IOS7.1?
I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I 
wanted it
to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to 
the
right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing 
locked

in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - From: "alberto" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, 
reset,
erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad 
by
hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not 
use

iTunes.
Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone 
too.

You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  
wrote:


Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, 
the

latest back up?

Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest 
backup.


Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - From: "alberto" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud 
instead
of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back 
up or

in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  
wrote:


Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for 
example,
let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there 
and I
want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, 
but

the
purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was 
told

that
if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But 
I'm

not
able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not 
transfer
with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not 
transfer

either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" 


To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never 
heard

of
this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
preferences
for each device under iTunes.

You can of course make the preferences identical.
David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

Hello all,

Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iT

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Eleanor. I usually like to keep that switch set for quick muting on the iPad.
Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPad

> On 15 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Eleanor Burke"  wrote:
> 
> Isnt there a physical orientation lock button on the side near the volume on 
> the iPad?  There is one on my iPad mini.
> - Original Message - From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
>> Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to 
>> touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right 
>> with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth 
>> and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?
>> Cheers
>> Thuy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis actually
>>> a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing thing,
>>> that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we reinstall
>>> Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not come
>>> over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got something
>>> to work with now.
>>> 
>>>   I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in IOS7.1?
>>> I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted it
>>> to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to the
>>> right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing locked
>>> in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
>>> setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Brenda
>>> 
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - From: "alberto" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, reset,
>>> erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by
>>> hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not use
>>> iTunes.
>>> Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
>>> actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone too.
>>> You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, the
>>>> latest back up?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care,
>>>> 
>>>> Brenda
>>>> 
>>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>>> - Original Message - From: "alberto" 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud instead
>>>> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up or
>>>> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
>>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
>>>>> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
>>>>> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but
>>>>> the
>>>>> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
>>>>> that
>>>>> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm
>>>>> not
>>>>> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
>>>>> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
>>>>> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>>>>> 
>>>>

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Eleanor Burke]

Isnt there a physical orientation lock button on the side near the volume on 
the iPad?  There is one on my iPad mini.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thuy Mallalieu" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to 
touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right 
with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth 
and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?

Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPhone


On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:

I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis 
actually
a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing 
thing,
that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we 
reinstall
Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not 
come
over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got 
something

to work with now.

   I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in 
IOS7.1?
I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted 
it
to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to 
the
right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing 
locked

in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion"
setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "alberto" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, 
reset,

erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by
hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not 
use

iTunes.
Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone 
too.

You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.

On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, 
the

latest back up?

Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "alberto" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud 
instead
of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up 
or

in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  
wrote:


Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for 
example,
let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and 
I

want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but
the
purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
that
if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But 
I'm

not
able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not 
transfer
with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not 
transfer

either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never 
heard

of
this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
preferences
for each device under iTunes.

You can of course make the preferences identical.
David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

Hello all,

 Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust
this

comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I 
need

to
check and uncheck to get these to sync.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to touch 
the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right with one 
finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, bluetooth and do not 
disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
> 
> I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis actually 
> a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing thing, 
> that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we reinstall 
> Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not come 
> over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got something 
> to work with now.
> 
>I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in IOS7.1? 
> I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted it 
> to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to the 
> right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing locked 
> in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion" 
> setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brenda
> 
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "alberto" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
> You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, reset, 
> erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by 
> hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not use 
> iTunes.
> Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are 
> actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone too.
> You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, the
>> latest back up?
>> 
>> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Brenda
>> 
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "alberto" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud instead
>> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up or
>> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
>>> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
>>> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but 
>>> the
>>> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
>>> that
>>> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm
>>> not
>>> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
>>> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
>>> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Brenda
>>> 
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "David Griffith" 
>>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
>>> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard
>>> of
>>> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
>>> preferences
>>> for each device under iTunes.
>>> 
>>> You can of course make the preferences identical.
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
>>> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>> 
>>> Hello 

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

Mine has cellular and wifi capability. Pretty cool, if you ask me.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


That is not always the best, because if there is no WIFI, it may use data,
unless it's an iPad without cellular capability.
But it is still dependant on WIFI.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "alberto" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud instead
of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up or
in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the
> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
> that
> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm
> not
> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard
> of
> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
> preferences
> for each device under iTunes.
>
> You can of course make the preferences identical.
> David Griffith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
> Hello all,
>
>Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust
> this
>
> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need
> to
> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Glenn]

That is not always the best, because if there is no WIFI, it may use data, 
unless it's an iPad without cellular capability.
But it is still dependant on WIFI.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "alberto" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud instead 
of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up or 
in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the
> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told 
> that
> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm 
> not
> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard 
> of
> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch 
> preferences
> for each device under iTunes.
>
> You can of course make the preferences identical.
> David Griffith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
> Hello all,
>
>Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust 
> this
>
> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need 
> to
> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenda
>
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

Well, this is interesting. I thought about doing that, too, but kept 
insisting this should and could be done. Finally I did get the job done, 
but--I could not get my folders that I made over there, so I decided that I 
guess I'd have to forget that notion. They say thereis a way, but I couldn't 
do it, simply because my screen reader does not seem to have access to where 
they say we need to go. That part will be off topic here, so won't belabor 
the point. At any rate, I got it to where all I had to do was to redownload 
the voices. Seemed the last step I took, put the iPad in sync with my phone 
enough, that it saw the purchases and let me know, but still had to 
reinstall that. Some of the log ins for radio apps needed to be put back and 
so on. I kept getting asked when the phone would come back on, if I had 
given the iPad permission to access certain things such as iCloud and stuff 
like that. So, yeah, I got something that I can work with at this point now.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


When that happened to me, I simply downloaded them as I wanted them and
intended on contacting iTunes if I was charged twice but in fact I was not
charged twice.
- Original Message - 
From: "meadowlark77" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Okay, I actually had to redownload the Voice Dream. I didn't have to pay for
that again, but it's extra voices that I have, those purchases did not get
transferred, so every time I look at a voice, it says it's price and to buy
it. What do I do now?

Take care and thanks,

Brenda
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carello" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hello Brenda. With Voice dream from what I know you don’t sink books that
are in the library. You can open books in there using the services that it
allows you like drop box or Book share i think. There are others. There may
be other settings it keeps the same. You can purchase voices which then can
be downloaded on other devices with no extra charges due to the fact that
they were purchased with your apple ID. I know of no other purchases like
books that you can make with it. I hope this helps.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 1:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the
> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
> that
> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm
> not
> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard
> of
> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
> preferences
> for each device under iTunes.
>
> You can of course make the preferences identical.
> David Griffith
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
> Hello all,
>
>Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust
> this
>
> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need
> to
> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenda
>
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> <h

Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis actually 
a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing thing, 
that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we reinstall 
Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not come 
over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got something 
to work with now.

I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in IOS7.1? 
I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I wanted it 
to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to the 
right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing locked 
in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the "reduce Motion" 
setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "alberto" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, reset, 
erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by 
hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not use 
iTunes.
Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are 
actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone too.
You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, the
> latest back up?
>
> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
>
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "alberto" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud instead
> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up or
> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
>> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
>> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but 
>> the
>> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
>> that
>> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm
>> not
>> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
>> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
>> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Brenda
>>
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David Griffith" 
>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
>> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>
>>
>> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard
>> of
>> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
>> preferences
>> for each device under iTunes.
>>
>> You can of course make the preferences identical.
>> David Griffith
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
>> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>   Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
>> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust
>> this
>>
>> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need
>> to
>> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brenda
>>
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Eleanor Burke]

When that happened to me, I simply downloaded them as I wanted them and 
intended on contacting iTunes if I was charged twice but in fact I was not 
charged twice.
- Original Message - 
From: "meadowlark77" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Okay, I actually had to redownload the Voice Dream. I didn't have to pay for
that again, but it's extra voices that I have, those purchases did not get
transferred, so every time I look at a voice, it says it's price and to buy
it. What do I do now?

Take care and thanks,

Brenda
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carello" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hello Brenda. With Voice dream from what I know you don’t sink books that
are in the library. You can open books in there using the services that it
allows you like drop box or Book share i think. There are others. There may
be other settings it keeps the same. You can purchase voices which then can
be downloaded on other devices with no extra charges due to the fact that
they were purchased with your apple ID. I know of no other purchases like
books that you can make with it. I hope this helps.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 1:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:


Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the
purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told
that
if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm
not
able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard
of
this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
preferences
for each device under iTunes.

You can of course make the preferences identical.
David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

Hello all,

   Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust
this

comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need
to
check and uncheck to get these to sync.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[alberto]

You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, reset, 
erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad by hand 
choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not use iTunes.
Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are 
actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone too.
You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, the 
> latest back up?
> 
> Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
> 
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "alberto" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
> Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
> Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud instead 
> of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up or 
> in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
> On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
> 
>> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
>> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
>> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the
>> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told 
>> that
>> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm 
>> not
>> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
>> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
>> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Brenda
>> 
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David Griffith" 
>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
>> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>> 
>> 
>> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard 
>> of
>> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch 
>> preferences
>> for each device under iTunes.
>> 
>> You can of course make the preferences identical.
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
>> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>>   Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
>> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust 
>> this
>> 
>> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need 
>> to
>> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Brenda
>> 
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, the 
latest back up?

Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest backup.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "alberto" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud instead 
of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up or 
in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the
> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told 
> that
> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm 
> not
> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard 
> of
> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch 
> preferences
> for each device under iTunes.
>
> You can of course make the preferences identical.
> David Griffith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
> Hello all,
>
>Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust 
> this
>
> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need 
> to
> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenda
>
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

Okay, I actually had to redownload the Voice Dream. I didn't have to pay for 
that again, but it's extra voices that I have, those purchases did not get 
transferred, so every time I look at a voice, it says it's price and to buy 
it. What do I do now?

Take care and thanks,

Brenda
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carello" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hello Brenda. With Voice dream from what I know you don’t sink books that 
are in the library. You can open books in there using the services that it 
allows you like drop box or Book share i think. There are others. There may 
be other settings it keeps the same. You can purchase voices which then can 
be downloaded on other devices with no extra charges due to the fact that 
they were purchased with your apple ID. I know of no other purchases like 
books that you can make with it. I hope this helps.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 1:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example,
> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I
> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the
> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told 
> that
> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm 
> not
> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer
> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer
> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
>
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
>
> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard 
> of
> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch 
> preferences
> for each device under iTunes.
>
> You can of course make the preferences identical.
> David Griffith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
>
> Hello all,
>
>Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust 
> this
>
> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need 
> to
> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenda
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[alberto]

Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud instead of 
using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back up or in this 
case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example, 
> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I 
> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the 
> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told that 
> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm not 
> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer 
> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer 
> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
> 
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard of
> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch preferences
> for each device under iTunes.
> 
> You can of course make the preferences identical.
> David Griffith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> Hello all,
> 
>Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust this
> 
> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need to
> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brenda
> 
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Brenda. With Voice dream from what I know you don’t sink books that are 
in the library. You can open books in there using the services that it allows 
you like drop box or Book share i think. There are others. There may be other 
settings it keeps the same. You can purchase voices which then can be 
downloaded on other devices with no extra charges due to the fact that they 
were purchased with your apple ID. I know of no other purchases like books that 
you can make with it. I hope this helps.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 1:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example, 
> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I 
> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the 
> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told that 
> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm not 
> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer 
> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer 
> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
> 
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard of
> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch preferences
> for each device under iTunes.
> 
> You can of course make the preferences identical.
> David Griffith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
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> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> Hello all,
> 
>Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust this
> 
> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need to
> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brenda
> 
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example, 
let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I 
want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the 
purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told that 
if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm not 
able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer 
with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer 
either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 
To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard of
this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch preferences
for each device under iTunes.

You can of course make the preferences identical.
David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

Hello all,

Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust this

comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need to
check and uncheck to get these to sync.

Thanks,

Brenda

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RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[David Griffith]

I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard of
this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch preferences
for each device under iTunes.

You can of course make the preferences identical.
David Griffith

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

Hello all,

Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For 
some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust this

comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need to 
check and uncheck to get these to sync.

Thanks,

Brenda

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trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

[meadowlark77]

Hello all,

Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For 
some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust this 
comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need to 
check and uncheck to get these to sync.

Thanks,

Brenda

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New iPad

[Chris H]

Good evening all
well i finally got my iPad mini wifi 128 gb in silver over an hour ago.
The setup was painless, but lol! I had to turn everything on in iCloud 
settings just to get my contacts for example!
Now I'm currently downloading the free apps that Apple now offers when 
you purchase a new iDevice, such as Pages. This is why I'm not sending 
this from my iPad at this time.
Well my impressions overall? Very good! Feels nice and shiny, sound 
quality is just amazing, and the on-screen keyboard is very nice 
actually! Reminds me of a laptop keyboard because of the placement of 
the comma and period keys to the right of m for example. Just need some 
more practice though but I am getting there. But lol! earlier on, could 
I find the at key as part of signing into my Apple Id? Could I heck! 
Turned out it was to the right of the m key!
Anyway will keep you updated but those are my feelings so far. Can't 
wait to test the sound out with music I synced to my iPad earlier on. 
Speaking of which going to forget iTunes Match altogether, because it 
won't let me sync my music for offline listening otherwise.

You take care and hope we can get something going on this!


--
Best wishes for 2014 Chris
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Re: New iPad

[Chris H]

Hi
thanks, yes i know what you mean, if you have an iPad already then 
probably not worth the upgrade, as for me it's my first iPad as quoted 
in the original thread.


Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris

On 30/12/2013 00:08, Gordon Smith wrote:

  Hi Chris
  If you've used an iPhone, which I know you have, you'll have no
trouble adapting to the iPan Mini.  The procedures for using it with VO
are very much the same.  I personally really like the new Mini, although
I cannot currently justify the upgrade, as my 3rd generation iPad still
works very well.

  Kind Regards
  Gordon Smith
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re: New iPad

[Gordon Smith]

 Hi Chris
 If you've used an iPhone, which I know you have, you'll have no 
trouble adapting to the iPan Mini.  The procedures for using it 
with VO are very much the same.  I personally really like the new 
Mini, although I cannot currently justify the upgrade, as my 3rd 
generation iPad still works very well.


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Advice On Accessible Information Technologies And Braille 
Transcription Services.



- Original Message -
From: Chris H well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first 
tablet,
iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since 
did not
get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i 
chose
silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i 
can
store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, 
should
be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, 
thanks.

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Re: New iPad

[john gallagher]

hi there well now at least we have the choice i have just upgraded to a new 
iphone where i can connect my new device to the  mac. sadly though i cannot 
seem to do this with my new braille sense u 2 mini as when i try to connect to 
the mac it says cannot find drivers. never mind maybe there is a way to acquire 
the drivers. i have the mac book pro and am still learning 

- Original Message -
From: meadowlark77 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2013 3.02 am
Subject: Re: New iPad

>
>
> It's fantastic! Thinking of it at some point.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
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> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11.04 AM
> Subject: Re: New iPad
> 
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> please do, smile.
> 
> Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris
> 
> On 28/12/2013 17.00, meadowlark77 wrote:
> > That sounds like an awesome iPad. Phew! Alright, then! Just had to enjoy 
> > the
> > excitement with ya!
> > "still
> > Take care,
> >
> > Brenda
> >
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> > Subject: New iPad
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> > Hi all
> > well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet,
> > iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not
> > get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose
> > silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i can
> > store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, should
> > be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, thanks.
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Re: New iPad

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It's fantastic! Thinking of it at some point.

Take care,

Brenda

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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: New iPad


Hi Brenda
please do, smile.

Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris

On 28/12/2013 17:00, meadowlark77 wrote:
> That sounds like an awesome iPad. Phew! Alright, then! Just had to enjoy 
> the
> excitement with ya!
> \
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
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> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:16 AM
> Subject: New iPad
>
>
> Hi all
> well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet,
> iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not
> get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose
> silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i can
> store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, should
> be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, thanks.
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Re: New iPad

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Hi Brenda
please do, smile.

Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris

On 28/12/2013 17:00, meadowlark77 wrote:

That sounds like an awesome iPad. Phew! Alright, then! Just had to enjoy the
excitement with ya!
\
Take care,

Brenda

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To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:16 AM
Subject: New iPad


Hi all
well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet,
iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not
get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose
silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i can
store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, should
be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, thanks.


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Re: New iPad

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That sounds like an awesome iPad. Phew! Alright, then! Just had to enjoy the 
excitement with ya!
\
Take care,

Brenda

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Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:16 AM
Subject: New iPad


Hi all
well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet,
iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not
get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose
silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i can
store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, should
be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, thanks.
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New iPad

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Hi all
well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet, 
iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not 
get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose 
silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i can 
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Sound Of New iPad, Not As Bad As First thought

[Dane Trethowan]

Must have been the way I was holding the iPad, I have it sitting on a table now 
and the speaker sounds quite respectible, indeed the performance is much the 
same as I've been used to when it comes to iPad, still settings dozens of Apps 
up .


Sent from my iPad
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Re: New member and a question about setting up a new IPad.

[Sarah k Alawami]

I did not think of that either. lol. oops? Would the apps tha tare not iPad 
ready not work then or look funny only. Would they be usable w voice over if 
the poster did this? I would not know as I don't use an iPad.

Tc.
On Dec 8, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> Welcome aboard!
> I think restoring from your iPhone backup would have been a better option as 
> all apps you had on your iPhone would then be downloaded in the background 
> onto your new iPad.
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> Christopher Hallsworth
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>> reason all of my apps aren't showing up in purchased in the app store on the
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Welcome aboard!
I think restoring from your iPhone backup would have been a better 
option as all apps you had on your iPhone would then be downloaded in 
the background onto your new iPad.



Christopher Hallsworth

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Iphone4s and a IPad mini. I set up the mini as a new device and for some
reason all of my apps aren't showing up in purchased in the app store on the
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idea?

Matt

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RE: New member and a question about setting up a new IPad.

[Matthew C]

That was my last choice. I guess I could go through and uncheck the ones I
don't want on there. I just don't  like using itunes grin. Thanks for the
idea though.

Matt

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Have you synchronized it in iTunes?
iTunes will transfer all your apps.
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Re: New member and a question about setting up a new IPad.

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Have you synchronized it in iTunes?
iTunes will transfer all your apps.
Glenn
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Subject: New member and a question about setting up a new IPad.


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New member and a question about setting up a new IPad.

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Hello all. I just joined the list. My name is Matthew Carello. I have an
Iphone4s and a IPad mini. I set up the mini as a new device and for some
reason all of my apps aren't showing up in purchased in the app store on the
iphone. What would be the best way to get these apps on to the IPad? I know
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Matt

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Re: The new iPad.

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Sadam

On 23 Jul 2012, at 11:31, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

• What are the new features in the new iPad apart from the retina display? 

I  believe that the only difference between iPad 2 and iPad 3 is the resolution 
of the camera. I think they both have the same technical specifications other 
than that.

I am aware that some on list have replied to you with reference to iOS6. 
However, I won't do that because it's against Apple's code of conduct to 
speculate; regardless of the rumour mill. Yes, I know that possibly there may 
be contributions to that rumour mill from Apple themselves and yes, I do agree 
that sometimes their weird logic and double standards are difficult to fathom.. 
Nevertheless, you'll find that it is future-proof so in all honesty my advice 
would be stick with what you have for the time being.

Lynne

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Re: The new iPad.

[Gordon Smith]

I doubt very much you'd notice much difference to be honest.  I'm not going to 
talk about iOS6 because Apple discourages speculation.  But your iPad 2 should 
be future-proof for a while yet.  It's only the original iPad which is being 
effectively dropped.  Of course, technical support and warranty services won't 
be affected if, for example, you have an AppleCare plan which includes your 
original iPad.

Gordon

On 23 Jul 2012, at 11:31, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

> What are the new features in the new iPad apart from the retina display? 
> 
> Is it worth upgrading from iPad 2? 

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Re: The new iPad.

[william lomas]

you get dictation and siri when IOS six comes out
it is faster i believe, too but i think that's it
if the 2 is working it depends what yu'd get from a three

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> 
> Is it worth upgrading from iPad 2? 
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The new iPad.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all, 

What are the new features in the new iPad apart from the retina display? 

Is it worth upgrading from iPad 2? 

Best regards, 

Mr Sadam ahmed. 

Dip 

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Re: new ipad

[Glenn]

It would not look different, it would be an on-screen keyboard.
Just software.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "1smart...@cox.net" <1smart...@cox.net>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


If only you could see the look on my face! Although I do know some folks,
both sighted and blind who could use two-handed instructions on said toilet
paper.

I absolutely do not want my IOS devices to look like a piece of adaptive
equipment. My very nice never used beautiful Perkins braille writer has dust
all over the cover and my Braille keyboard Voice Note has a dead battery and
is in a drawer somewhere.

Karen

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Waaler" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you
> one better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be
> embossed with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of
> application? After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it
> otherwise?
>
> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the
> access technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I
> suspect most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
>
> Best regards.
> Geoff
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
>
>
>>A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>> Glenn
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "John Panarese" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>>
>>
>>   I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like
>> this.
>> People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
>> the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.
>> Thus,
>> the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.
>>
>> However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
>> improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is
>> a
>> vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
>> improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to
>> get
>> fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
>> really start taking advantage of its new specs.
>>
>> So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
>> that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
>> reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
>> accessibility and go assuming anything.
>>
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
>>> market is for people with vision.
>>> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>
>>>> new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>>>> all about colors etc
>>>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
>>>> broke, don't fix it
>>>>
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Re: new ipad

[Sean Murphy]

One thing about the new IPAD. The 4g selling point is an USA mobile (cellular) 
standard. I do not know if it is something available in Europe. I believe it 
use's a 1800 frequency. So countries like Australia cannot use the 4g component.


I wish the hell the Telco industry would standardise mobile technology so 
everyone uses the same frequency. But licences and governments like to screw 
people around.

Sean  
On 09/03/2012, at 6:55 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just to correct you here. Yes, Apple does allow it, and yes they do exist, 
> but experimentally so. However, the companies haven't made it into a regular 
> keyboard such as the ones you can set under Keyboard preferences in Settings, 
> which is also possible to do without any particular access to any source 
> code. You don't need any low-level access in iOS to do this, so if the 
> company can make it a workable solution, it's perfectly able to be 
> worthwhile. I admit it'd be interesting to try, but it wouldn't make me 
> faster.
> 
> Even so, though, the fact it is a small demand makes Apple less likely to do 
> it. Most companies probably wouldn't go for small-demand features, at least, 
> not often I'd think.
> 
> Regards,
> Nicolai
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn wrote:
> 
>> That is not a big demand!
>> Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
>> There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow 
>> access to that level of the source code.
>> There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have 
>> never typed on a computer keyboard.
>> Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I meant 
>> by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message - 
>> From: "Geoff Waaler" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>> 
>> 
>> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one
>> better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
>> with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application?
>> After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?
>> 
>> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
>> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
>> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access
>> technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
>> most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Geoff
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Glenn" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>> 
>> 
>>> A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>>> Glenn
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "John Panarese" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like
>>> this.
>>> People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
>>> the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.
>>> Thus,
>>> the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.
>>> 
>>>   However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
>>> improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
>>> vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
>>> improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to
>>> get
>>> fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
>>> really start taking advantage of its new specs.
>>> 
>>>   So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
>>> that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
>>> reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
>>> accessibility and go assuming anything.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 

Re: new ipad

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Just to correct you here. Yes, Apple does allow it, and yes they do exist, but 
experimentally so. However, the companies haven't made it into a regular 
keyboard such as the ones you can set under Keyboard preferences in Settings, 
which is also possible to do without any particular access to any source code. 
You don't need any low-level access in iOS to do this, so if the company can 
make it a workable solution, it's perfectly able to be worthwhile. I admit it'd 
be interesting to try, but it wouldn't make me faster.

Even so, though, the fact it is a small demand makes Apple less likely to do 
it. Most companies probably wouldn't go for small-demand features, at least, 
not often I'd think.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn wrote:

> That is not a big demand!
> Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
> There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow 
> access to that level of the source code.
> There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have 
> never typed on a computer keyboard.
> Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I meant 
> by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Geoff Waaler" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
> 
> 
> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one
> better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
> with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application?
> After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?
> 
> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access
> technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
> most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
> 
> 
>> A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>> Glenn
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "John Panarese" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>> 
>> 
>>  I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like
>> this.
>> People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
>> the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.
>> Thus,
>> the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.
>> 
>>However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
>> improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
>> vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
>> improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to
>> get
>> fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
>> really start taking advantage of its new specs.
>> 
>>So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
>> that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
>> reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
>> accessibility and go assuming anything.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>> 
>>> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
>>> market is for people with vision.
>>> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?
>>> 
>>> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>>>> all about colors etc
>>>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
>>>> broke, don't fix it
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: new ipad

[1smart...@cox.net]

If only you could see the look on my face! Although I do know some folks, 
both sighted and blind who could use two-handed instructions on said toilet 
paper.


I absolutely do not want my IOS devices to look like a piece of adaptive 
equipment. My very nice never used beautiful Perkins braille writer has dust 
all over the cover and my Braille keyboard Voice Note has a dead battery and 
is in a drawer somewhere.


Karen

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Waaler" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you 
one better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be 
embossed with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of 
application? After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it 
otherwise?


My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people 
demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an 
indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the 
access technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I 
suspect most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad



A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
Glenn

- Original Message - 
From: "John Panarese" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: new ipad


  I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like 
this.

People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks. 
Thus,

the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is 
a

vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to 
get

fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
really start taking advantage of its new specs.

So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
accessibility and go assuming anything.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:


So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
market is for people with vision.
What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?

On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:


new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
all about colors etc
stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
broke, don't fix it


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Re: Perkins keyboard layout in IOS? was new ipad

[Glenn]

I would hope people, especially Blind folks are not walking down the street 
texting.
If you do that, that explains your reasoning.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Waaler" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Perkins keyboard layout in IOS? was new ipad


Thanks for the reply!!  Wow!! You were serious then!!  I'd be very 
interested to learn what you would consider to be a comparable example. 
Since you used the word companies in the plural form, surely you'll be able 
to describe a single example of a main stream company that has made such an 
investment so as to accommodate a tiny faction of a small minority of the 
user community?

Yeah, I cut my teeth on the Perkins and even the slate and stylus, but can't 
think of a more ridiculous and unreasonable demand.  At age ten I learned 
touch typing (known as keyboarding in today's lingo), but assume even had I 
not done so, that VO on IOS provides sufficient feedback such that those 
unfamiliar with the layout are not precluded from pulling off data entry. 
Those who don't wish to master keyboarding can invest in a BT Braille 
device, or spring for a 4S and use Siri.  IMHO, the market place already 
accommodates the type of users you're describing, and I hope that Apple 
isn't distracted from adding vo features that would be of value to the 
entire user community.

So how would you envision walking down the street with a guide dog while 
composing a text?  I can easily accomplish this, but doubt that would be 
possible on an on-screen Perkins unless my note consisted of nothing but the 
letter a.

Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message
-- 
From: "Glenn" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


> That is not a big demand!
> Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
> There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow
> access to that level of the source code.
> There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have
> never typed on a computer keyboard.
> Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I 
> meant
> by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Geoff Waaler" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
>
>
> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you 
> one
> better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
> with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of 
> application?
> After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?
>
> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the 
> access
> technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
> most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
>
> Best regards.
> Geoff
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
>
>
>>A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>> Glenn
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Perkins keyboard layout in IOS? was new ipad

[Geoff Waaler]

Thanks for the reply!!  Wow!! You were serious then!!  I'd be very interested 
to learn what you would consider to be a comparable example.  Since you used 
the word companies in the plural form, surely you'll be able to describe a 
single example of a main stream company that has made such an investment so as 
to accommodate a tiny faction of a small minority of the user community?

Yeah, I cut my teeth on the Perkins and even the slate and stylus, but can't 
think of a more ridiculous and unreasonable demand.  At age ten I learned touch 
typing (known as keyboarding in today's lingo), but assume even had I not done 
so, that VO on IOS provides sufficient feedback such that those unfamiliar with 
the layout are not precluded from pulling off data entry.  Those who don't wish 
to master keyboarding can invest in a BT Braille device, or spring for a 4S and 
use Siri.  IMHO, the market place already accommodates the type of users you're 
describing, and I hope that Apple isn't distracted from adding vo features that 
would be of value to the entire user community.

So how would you envision walking down the street with a guide dog while 
composing a text?  I can easily accomplish this, but doubt that would be 
possible on an on-screen Perkins unless my note consisted of nothing but the 
letter a.

Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message 
-- 
From: "Glenn" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


> That is not a big demand!
> Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
> There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow 
> access to that level of the source code.
> There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have 
> never typed on a computer keyboard.
> Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I meant 
> by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Geoff Waaler" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
> 
> 
> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one
> better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
> with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application?
> After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?
> 
> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access
> technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
> most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
> 
> 
>>A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>> Glenn
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Re: new ipad

[Glenn]

That is not a big demand!
Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow 
access to that level of the source code.
There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have 
never typed on a computer keyboard.
Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I meant 
by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
Glenn
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From: "Geoff Waaler" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one
better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application?
After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?

My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access
technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!

Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


>A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
> Glenn
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Panarese" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
>
>
>   I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like
> this.
> People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
> the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.
> Thus,
> the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.
>
> However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
> improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
> vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
> improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to
> get
> fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
> really start taking advantage of its new specs.
>
> So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
> that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
> reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
> accessibility and go assuming anything.
>
> Take Care
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>
>> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
>> market is for people with vision.
>> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?
>>
>> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>> new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>>> all about colors etc
>>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
>>> broke, don't fix it
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Re: new ipad

[Geoff Waaler]

And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one 
better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed 
with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application? 
After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?


My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people 
demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an 
indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access 
technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect 
most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad



A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
Glenn

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From: "John Panarese" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: new ipad


  I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like 
this.

People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks. 
Thus,

the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to 
get

fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
really start taking advantage of its new specs.

So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
accessibility and go assuming anything.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



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So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
market is for people with vision.
What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?

On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:


new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
all about colors etc
stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
broke, don't fix it


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Re: new ipad

[Glenn]

A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a 
touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
Glenn

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From: "John Panarese" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: new ipad


   I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like this. 
People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for 
the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.  Thus, 
the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

 However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the 
improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a 
vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the 
improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to get 
fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers 
really start taking advantage of its new specs.

 So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have, 
that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap 
reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards 
accessibility and go assuming anything.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



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> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime 
> market is for people with vision.
> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?
>
> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>> new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>> all about colors etc
>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint 
>> broke, don't fix it
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   I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like this.  
People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for the 
blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.  Thus, the 
bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

 However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the improvements 
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overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the improvements are never 
apparent from the presentation and don't seem to get fully realized until the 
device is being sold and third party developers really start taking advantage 
of its new specs.

 So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have, that 
is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap reactions 
simply from a presentation that was not geared towards accessibility and go 
assuming anything.

Take Care
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> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?  
> 
> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
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>>  new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>> all about colors etc
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Re: new ipad

[Gordon Keen]

Also it should be remembered that developers might be able to add functionality 
to existing software because of improved hardware for example the higher 
quality camera might improve o.c.r apps and other scanning software for 
voiceover to work with.

Far to early to rush to judgement imho.

Regards

G

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What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?  

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new ipad

[william lomas]

new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
all about colors etc
stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint broke, 
don't fix it


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the new ipad

[william lomas]

hi this article on the new ipad it all speculation at the moment may be 
of interest. you can feel the screen?

http://news.sky.com/home/technology/article/16184131


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