MacGroup: file sharing
I have a problem . I easily file share from my iMac to my iBook as well as to my PB. However, I cannot go to either my iMac or to my iBook from my powerbook. It won't let me in because I am supposedly not using the right password. I do not know what my old password is supposed to be although according to the hint it is my mother;s maiden name. I am at an utter loss, there is no way to even reset my password, since they keep telling me the old one is incorrect. It is driving me salami!. I don't need it here at home because I can share everything the other way around, but if I take this book along, I am stuck, Any help would be appreciated. You all don't want me to go completely berserk, don't you? Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 807 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20060815/d21d5f6a/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Insight Mail Server
Well, I did what you told us. Thanks. I had been able to mail out on insight until tonight. I sent myself an email from my gmail account and it did arrive. So I think all is ok. If only I knew now what I did with this security change and port change. Marta On May 4, 2006, at 22:42, Lee Larson wrote: Like some other people around here, I've been experiencing some pain with Insight's mail servers since they began their upgrade work. It seems they might have installed a security upgrade to their SMTP servers without documenting it anywhere I can find. Over the last few days the Insight SMTP servers have been refusing to send my mail and I've been forced to use other servers. Tonight I tried mail.insightbb.com as a secure server instead of a plaintext server. It worked fine. To do this with Apple's mail, go to your Mail preferences account window. Click on the Server Settings button and say that mail.insightbb.com is a secure server on port 465 with password authentication. Fill in your InsightBB account name and password. This change is a good thing and I'm glad they did it because it makes emailing more secure. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1241 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20060504/5f6473a0/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Insight Mail Server
Thanks. Lee. Tried to do what you explained. Hope i did it correctly. I don't even know what a secure server is. Marta On May 4, 2006, at 22:42, Lee Larson wrote: Like some other people around here, I've been experiencing some pain with Insight's mail servers since they began their upgrade work. It seems they might have installed a security upgrade to their SMTP servers without documenting it anywhere I can find. Over the last few days the Insight SMTP servers have been refusing to send my mail and I've been forced to use other servers. Tonight I tried mail.insightbb.com as a secure server instead of a plaintext server. It worked fine. To do this with Apple's mail, go to your Mail preferences account window. Click on the Server Settings button and say that mail.insightbb.com is a secure server on port 465 with password authentication. Fill in your InsightBB account name and password. This change is a good thing and I'm glad they did it because it makes emailing more secure. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1104 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20060504/d1de2d25/attachment.bin
MacGroup: difficulty with email overseas
Jerry, yes it is. I had it changed to mac.com last year with the list service, so that I would receive the group mail , because at that time insight did not have webmail--- however, mark this now, I got your reply just now in my regular mail account as well as in my .mac web account, also the reply about the computer not shutting down. This is great now. I believe it to be OK. I can't actually tell you what I did, I looked around a bit in the preferences and clicked hither and thither, and low and behold, I am getting the mails into the account. I thought if all fails, I just have to wait for the group's mail until I get back and use insight and gmail in the meantime, because they worked all along, except that I do not get the insight web account come down into my regular account. But the webmail works fine, because all mail comes into it first anyhow. - And I am ready now for a course in the advanced preferences with the pop-s and the smtp-s and the ports and what have you. Thanks for answering and what a luck it came through. If this get to you, please reply with Amen! Marta On Oct 19, 2005, at 00:11, Jerry Yeager wrote: It sounds like there is a problem with your settings for the .mac account. But first things first is your .mac account registered with the list serv? On Oct 18, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Marta Edie wrote: MARTA From: Marta Edie PB martaedie at mac.com To: MacUser Group MacUserGroup macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Date: Tue Oct 18, 2005 02:33:40 PM EDT Subject: MacGroup: difficulty with email overseas Group, I need a little advice. I have two mail accounts, insight and mac.com in my mailbox. Before, I used to forward my insight account to my .mac, in order to receive and send mail on the .mac. Since insight now has webmail, I did not do that. But somehow I don't seem to get my .mac mail now, for instance all the group' s mail .I can send from insight to mac.com, or from gmail to mac.com, and it works alright. However, somehow when I click on my regular mail account, I don't seem to receive anything, it first runs thus: first it goes to mac.com fetching mail, then to insightbb.com , but I don't get my macmail, ( which I always did before) although I can retrieve webmail from insight,'s web page , but when I put the .mac mail webssite up, I get only the stuff I wrote myself to test the system,or mail forwarded from gmail to .mac or from the web-insight forwarded to .mac.. Would I have to do something else in the preferences? I surely thought getting to the .mac web account would be sufficient. Please send enlightenment to mledie at insightbb.com or marta.edie at gmail.com, but then also try out on the regular mac.com, just for me to check it out or see whether the daemon hits you back. Thanks a million. Marta | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be October 25 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway. | The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup --- Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3416 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20051019/fd6265fe/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Computer won't shut down.
This is not an answer, just an acknowledgement that I received this mail, too. Marta On Oct 19, 2005, at 00:09, Jerry Yeager wrote: The Blue and White G3 Macs had / have some very odd things with their video cards that cause strange oddities to occur using OS-X. If you have access to another video card (and driver) try that. On Oct 17, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Joseph Jutz wrote: Hi Folks, I'm running a Blue White G3 Macintosh, using System 10.2.8. Today I replaced the original 17 monitor that came with the Blue White with a Samsung 930b TFT-LCD Flat Panel Monitor. Everything is working perfect as far as the new monitor is concerned, my problem is now the computer won't shut down. Once the screen gets to the little wheel spinning it just stays there forever. In order to shut off the computer, I have to unplug it. Any body out there have any suggestions to solve this problem? Thank, Joseph Jutz. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be October 25 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway. | The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup --- Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1507 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20051019/7db0e3ca/attachment.bin
MacGroup: difficulty with email overseas
Thanks, Mike, I got it. Amen twice. It is working. Marta On Oct 19, 2005, at 01:44, Mike Watkins wrote: Amen! Mike On Oct 18, 2005, at 6:44 PM, Marta Edie PB wrote: Jerry, yes it is. I had it changed to mac.com last year with the list service, so that I would receive the group mail , because at that time insight did not have webmail--- however, mark this now, I got your reply just now in my regular mail account as well as in my .mac web account, also the reply about the computer not shutting down. This is great now. I believe it to be OK. I can't actually tell you what I did, I looked around a bit in the preferences and clicked hither and thither, and low and behold, I am getting the mails into the account. I thought if all fails, I just have to wait for the group's mail until I get back and use insight and gmail in the meantime, because they worked all along, except that I do not get the insight web account come down into my regular account. But the webmail works fine, because all mail comes into it first anyhow. - And I am ready now for a course in the advanced preferences with the pop-s and the smtp-s and the ports and what have you. Thanks for answering and what a luck it came through. If this get to you, please reply with Amen! Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1490 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20051019/21da89ef/attachment.bin
MacGroup: calendar while not on the internet
Hi, all, - I have noticed that I have a blank calendar when I open my computer before connecting to the internet. I don't notice this at home, because I am always connected. My question: Is there a way to have a calendar with data showing when you are simply using the computer without being connected? If I want to see the appts. etc, I have to connect through the hotspot before the calendar shows the data. I know it does the synchronizing as you connect, but could one not set it, that the data stay and get corrected or changed when new items are added and you then connect to the internet? Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 693 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20051019/144d6d27/attachment.bin
MacGroup: difficulty with email overseas
Group, I need a little advice. I have two mail accounts, insight and mac.com in my mailbox. Before, I used to forward my insight account to my .mac, in order to receive and send mail on the .mac. Since insight now has webmail, I did not do that. But somehow I don't seem to get my .mac mail now, for instance all the group' s mail .I can send from insight to mac.com, or from gmail to mac.com, and it works alright. However, somehow when I click on my regular mail account, I don't seem to receive anything, it first runs thus: first it goes to mac.com fetching mail, then to insightbb.com , but I don't get my macmail, ( which I always did before) although I can retrieve webmail from insight,'s web page , but when I put the .mac mail webssite up, I get only the stuff I wrote myself to test the system,or mail forwarded from gmail to .mac or from the web-insight forwarded to .mac.. Would I have to do something else in the preferences? I surely thought getting to the .mac web account would be sufficient. Please send enlightenment to mledie at insightbb.com or marta.edie at gmail.com, but then also try out on the regular mac.com, just for me to check it out or see whether the daemon hits you back. Thanks a million. Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1319 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20051018/67c9df2e/attachment.bin
MacGroup: bandwidth speed test
Marta On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:48, Joe Oldham wrote: Try this site http://www.bandwidth.com/tools/speedTest On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Anne Cartwright wrote: Thaks Marta, But I get the folowing message when I try that site. Cannot run the script ?haveJava( )? because Safari does not allow JavaScript to be used in this way. Anne On Saturday, September 24, 2005, at 10:09 PM, Marta Edie wrote: Anne, Maybe this is what you are looking for, but I am not quite sure. At least Lee once had me test my bandwith speed via this link http://www.bandwidth.com/tools/speedTest Marta To read without reflecting is like eating without digesting. -Edmund Burke, statesman and writer (1729-1797) Marta Liesel To read without reflecting is like eating without digesting. -Edmund Burke, statesman and writer (1729-1797) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 985 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050925/a959ab4b/attachment.bin
MacGroup: bandwidth speed test
This is the same url, Ward, and Anne, it takes a bit of time until it comes up. I just click on the screen with the coffee cup Marta On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:48, Joe Oldham wrote: Try this site http://www.bandwidth.com/tools/speedTest On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Anne Cartwright wrote: Thaks Marta, But I get the folowing message when I try that site. Cannot run the script ?haveJava( )? because Safari does not allow JavaScript to be used in this way. Anne On Saturday, September 24, 2005, at 10:09 PM, Marta Edie wrote: Anne, Maybe this is what you are looking for, but I am not quite sure. At least Lee once had me test my bandwith speed via this link http://www.bandwidth.com/tools/speedTest Marta To read without reflecting is like eating without digesting. -Edmund Burke, statesman and writer (1729-1797) Marta Liesel To read without reflecting is like eating without digesting. -Edmund Burke, statesman and writer (1729-1797) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050925/f5a453dd/attachment.bin
MacGroup: OSR9 vs. OSX, etc.
Let's convince Steve Jobs TABBY should be on the horizon. Then the Mac would be coming home again after the long safari in the wild.Jerry you made my evening! Marta On Sep 15, 2005, at 18:50, Jerry Yeager wrote: 10.0? ?Puma 10.1? Cheetah 10.2? Jaguar 10.3? Panther 10.4? Tiger 10.5 (is supposed to be Leopard) 10.6 Tabby (just kidding 8^) ) On Sep 15, 2005, at 6:39 PM, NPfield at aol.com wrote: Response to Jonathan, who wrote, ?[OSX] typically goes WEEKS or even MONTHS between restarts. NO one can say that about any flavor of the Classic OS?: Well, sorry, Jonathan, I CAN say that. I actually can?t remember the last time my OS 9.2.2 crashed (although I will admit that my short-term memory is none too good). Admittedly, I don?t do the highpower work that many of you do, and as an old newspaper guy (from the hot type days), I?m fascinated by the discussions of Pagemaker and Quark. I live in Bowling Green and don?t get Louisville Magazine, but am tempted to come up someday and escort Marta over to see just how you do it. Response to Rob, who remarked on Apple?s wisdom in including OS9 with OSX to make the transition easier: Until a couple of years ago, until the HD went ?round the bend, I was still running, as a second Mac, my original LC II with an Apple II card in it, which made my transition from Apple II to Mac a lot happier back in the early 90s. (Who remembers ?Apple II Forever!? ?) I had a new Mac, which I loved, but I kept the LC II because it would run the Appleworks database for Apple II, which I found simpler and easier to use than the new AW version which came with my Mac. Now, with the time coming up for a new Mac (every 18-24 months!), I?m facing the possibility of no Appleworks at all, or some new gizmo which will severely challenge my learning curve. What?s a pore orphan chile to do? Finally, while I have your attention (maybe), will someone please list the OSX version numbers with their cat names, so I can figure out just how far behind I am? Nolan --- Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2926 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050915/c2bf115f/attachment.bin
MacGroup: pagemaker
Oho, now I also do understand!! For me, though, those ads only translate into $ signs . And Rob, your use of PM always confuses me, pagemaker is my second thought. First comes to mind that you don't start working until the sun gets past the high meridian. There is another abbr. one of the two JFs uses . I still haven't figured out all its BigOs in it, and it isn't tires! It is something like OTOH or similar. One day I shall consult Webopedia and find out or you all may spare me the extra search. Marta On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:42, Rob Kersting wrote: NOW I understand. But, being a PM user, what exactly is an error-free postscript file? Just joking.. Personally, Dan, I prfefer the ads with the girls in them. You should get Photos By Yono back in the magazine... rob Dan Crutcher wrote: Oh, Marta, don't ever say that (about those flashy full page ads). They are, indeed, our bread and butter, and our peanut butter and jelly . . . and the reason why we only charge $18 for a year's subscription. If nothing else, try to appreciate them for their layout, photography and other esthetic values. As for Quark/Pagemaker, about 10 years ago our printer insisted that we make the move from Pagemaker to Quark. Quark was much more advanced in its ability to produce error-free Postscript files, handle trapping (the art of turning a grid of dots into a clean- looking dividing line where two different colors meet on a page) and do several other behind-the-scenes processes that allowed printers to handle digital files efficiently. Quark quickly became the dominant page layout program for magazines, ad agencies and most of the publishing world. Now, Adobe InDesign appears to be headed towards that same dominance, partly because Quark was slow to upgrade to a usable OS X version, and because of InDesign's built-in compatibility with other Adobe programs like Acrobat, Distiller, Photoshop and Illustrator. Our October issue will be the first that we've designed completely in InDesign. If all goes well, it will be our design platform for the foreseeable future. Dan I am always amazed when I read Dan Crutcher, and then, when I see the Louisville Magazine I say to myself : How did they ever do this? ( Of course i could do without what is their bread and butter, those flashy full page ads!) | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be September 27 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway. | The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be September 27 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway. | The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3191 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050915/7c59a539/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Slot loading superdrive [bcc][faked-from]
Ditto here, too. I haven't quite absorbed the answer from Ward as yet ( I did not realize that a dongle did not just dingle-dongle for length-), but did put the e-mail into a safe place for referral. How much, do you all think I can still absorbe in my hard drive of my brain before I pass on? Too bad that we cannot put another memory chip into our brains! But maybe soon we all can communicate to the yonder world, too. And it would all be wireless!~. Sorry, i did not make it to the meeting--my brain sometimes has a kernel panic on top of everything else. Anyway, now, since everybody seems to have the secure signature , I want one, too! Not that I need it, but I want to learn how one gets it . My keychain is full of YOUR ALLS', I would like to show off this black check off mark, too. How about telling me -- us, how to get it in down to earth English, so we dead brains can manage. Marta On Jul 29, 2005, at 14:24, Green, Cathy wrote: Ward and Jerry, Many thanks for your informative responses! Nolan, Ditto! (re your message regarding Marta's response such) Cathy -- From: ? owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu on behalf of Ward Oldham Reply To: ? macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Sent: ? Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:41 PM To: ??? macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: ?? Re: MacGroup: Slot loading superdrive [bcc][faked-from] Hey Cathy, Dongle most commonly refers to a short pigtail device, either usb or adb that contains in firmware the serial number info. that a copy protected program requires. A typical example is Quark Passport, a multilingual version of Quark XPress.? Even though a user may have the application installed and the correct serial number input to verify that it is a registered product, its dongle would also be required for operation of the program. It would simply be plugged into the computer's usb or adb port. So should a user obtain an illegal copy of the software and even obtain an illegal serial number, they would still be unsuccessful in using the program without its dongle. Its goes to the extreme but many of your more expensive programs require dongles (which are manufacturer/application specific). Ward Ward Oldham, MacDude MacTown 128 Breckenridge Lane Louisville, KY ?40207 502-485-1243 ward at mactown.us http://www.mactown.us On Jul 28, 2005, at 5:21 PM, Jerry Freeman wrote: On Jul 28, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Green, Cathy wrote: what's a dongle?!? ccg dongle: noun. Computer slang for a cable to connect devices.? -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 6094 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050730/251d0d09/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Phone Technology
I am in the same boat as John . I recently bought a T-mobile pay as you go phone. Siemens with Triband,( use overseas ,but no camera or Blue tooth feature) for us the best buy since you get 1000.00 minutes for $ 100.00 lasting for 365 days if you don't deplete it earlier. and every card bought later ( even the $ 25.00)will extend the usage for another whole year and 15% more airtime.( I have had the same features on a phone in Europe for over ten years and it allows me to keep the same phone and number even if I went to europe only once a year. A good thing with T-mobile is, that you don't lose minutes when receiving calls overseas. T-moble will unlock the phone after three months, allowing you to change Sim cards.Cingular has great restrictions .I want to buy one for my husband, and am tending toward a motorola V 330, or V551, or This razs phone John talks about, which I liked but which I can't use because i want to use it without a contract with T-mobile and only Cingular carries it and the go-phone uses for Cingular are much more restricted than T-mobile. Why is it anyhow that these different companies use only certain phones of certain makes? I have been dealing with Motorola trying to get that razr phone to use with T-mobile- I am still negotiating. - With Verizon and Sprint I could not find the pay as you go features at all. And then I am dabbling with the Blue tooth capabilites, for my husband is hard of hearing and we thought he could then have it easier. Here I would appreciate your help, too. Marta On Jun 24, 2005, at 08:14, Brian O'Neal wrote: CDMA = Code Division Multiple Access GSM= Global system for mobile Communication GPS=Global positioning system The better technology is hard to say. I'm not an expert. GSM is much older than CDMA. I believe that GSM has better coverage, but CDMA has an advantage when it comes to data transfer. GSM phones come with a SIM card. This sim card can allow you to change phones by taking out the sim card and inserting it into another phone. But, with that comes the problem of subsidy locked phones. I had a GSM Palm OS phone (a Tungsten W) It was locked to the ATT wireless service, meaning I could not take it to another GSM carrier like T-Mobile or Cingular before the merger. Most all carriers lock their phones. Some will unlock them after a certain amount of time has passed. I think that I would go with the CDMA phone. Mainly because I believe, but am not certain, that CDMA has faster data throughput than GSM, and since your phone can do Web, email and SMS, you may want to utilize those down the line. Just using it as a phone you shouldn't notice a difference, except maybe the way the audio sounds from different compression methods. Clarity should be there with both. Opinion, Verizon-good, Cingular-bad, Sprint-OK, ATT-Thank goodness they no longer exist. Brian O'Neal On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:14 AM, John Robinson wrote: Advise is needed. Today I checked with Verizon on a phone (Treo 650) and it's integration with a MAC. On the Palm website some of the features are only available for Windows, some for the MAC as well. I also checked with Cingular on the Motorola Razor phone, not as many features, but a very small phone. Here is my question for the group, as I had two stories. The Verison salesperson said that the CDMA network that they used is far superior to the GSM (I thought it was GPS, not sure) that Cingular uses. Once I got to the Cingular store they pointed out that the GPS was far superior to downloading of email, getting connected to the web, etc. then the older technology of CDMA. So once again I ask the advise of the experts. Which is the better technology? Will it matter if you are using it only for a phone? If you do what internet connection then would that make a difference as to which is better. Many thanks, I so appreciate the groups help. John Robinson | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be July 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be July 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 4559 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050624/a52a5a83/attachment.bin
MacGroup: sound at closing of laptop
Lately my laptop makes the very same sound( glass in my case) as when mail arrives just before the computer shuts down. My iMac is not doing it. And I find no place where sounds are allowed or disallowed in the shutting down process. Where should I look? Anybody around to give me a clue? Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 382 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050610/88201243/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Java glitch in OS 10.3.9
You know people, it is so wonderful to learn so much. My update has been just fine, too, but look ,what I learned in the meantime as I tried to check all these suggested remedies! Were it not for the efforts of this group to help those with little technical background and know-how, we on the lower rungs of the ladder would still grope in the darkness. Marta On Apr 20, 2005, at 07:33, John Stone wrote: I did the update on my powerbook and then ran the test off of http://www.techspot.com/story17413.html, and I didn't get the error mesage, and I've been able to surf. The update seems to be fine on my Mac. John On 4/19/05, Bill Rising brising at louisville.edu wrote: On Apr 19, 2005, at 10:17, Henri Yandell wrote: Thanks, I'd noticed people complaining that there were issues but had put it down as a minor thing. Glad I've been too lazy to kick off the update on my laptop, as it's where I do all my Java development :) Just a guess about the problems (of which I've had zero): I'd guess that the problems with this update come from not having done earlier updates (like skipping the Java 1.4.2 Update 2 or the 2005-02, which also patched Java). So... if I had to make a wild guess, those that have done all updates involving Java in the past will have no problems. Those who skipped some updates which affected Java get a mess. Of course, I have no way of testing this hypothesis. I suspect the people complaining ran those updates. My gut guess is that the new Apple release shipped a bad binary in one of the files and the previous update allows said binary to be replaced with the older version. Of course we Java people are all desperately waiting for Tiger aka Java 5.0 (codenamed Tiger as well) on the Mac. OS X 10.4 is just a boring cost we'll have to pay while we wait for the real Tiger to appear :). Hen | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be April 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be April 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2559 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050420/f8524d42/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Apple Updates and (Palm errata)
Ward, I don't quite get you. I have this big --- iPod from you and a Bose Player , and I thought there would be plenty of room on the iPod to put the hard drive on it, not the documents etc, because I save them on iDisk and CDs.-- Removable hard disk storage? I thought all i had to do would be clicking the button to use part of theiPod as Hard disk . No?? I might even consider an external drive, just to learn the ins and outs of everything Maccy I can get my hands on ,although I know they are not Apple made, but nevertheless Maccy, before I kick the bucket, As soon as I feel better I shall get to your store anyway and buy everything on credit, so you will shake your head again over my AmexCard. Marta On Apr 17, 2005, at 15:21, Ward Oldham wrote: Hi Marta, The ipod solution is not cost effective unless you desire to ?kill two birds with one stone? and purchase both an mp3 player and removable hard disk storage in one device. Just an ordinary external firewire hard drive will do the trick and used in conjunction with a cloning utility like carbon copy cloner, you are able to create an identical bootable duplicate of your internal boot drive. Ward Ward Oldham, MacDude MacTown 1041 Bardstown Road Louisville, KY ?40204 502-485-1243 ward at mactown.us http://www.mactown.us From: Marta Edie martaedie at mac.com Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:18:53 -0400 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: Re: MacGroup: Apple Updates and (Palm errata) Thanks, Jerry, since I know your unconventional sense of humour i wasn't quite sure about those odd numbers- you know of the threes ,sevens and elevens in fairy tales. - One such number might be enough to turn you into an ugly dwarf. - - ?I guess I need more than a cup of coffee to be isighted at any time of day. - Now to a Mac-User question : Would it be a good idea to have one of those external hard drives so you have everything backed up, all your settings ?and preferences in all your applications etc?, in case your interior one gives out? -Ward suggested once to use your iPod's other half ( if you have that big size and are not wanting to put all the world's music on it ) as a hard drive to make a copy of your Mac HD. I would not want to start from scratch falls eine Katastrophe happened. Marta On Apr 16, 2005, at 15:56, Jerry Yeager wrote: Hello Marta, On Apr 16, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Marta Edie PB wrote: Jerry, what is an external firewire drive? I already downloaded that update yesterday ( it comes up automatically), and why would an uneven number make any difference? Or are you just joking like Lee on April1? -I have never known anything about my firewire, it only tells me that I have a firewire running when I do my iTunes and therefore can't share them.( Who would?) ?I could turn this announcement off, but I like to be reminded of this firewire business, so that some day I would ask about it. And the day is now. Your iMac comes with an internal hard drive, but if you run out of space you can get another hard drive and connect it to your Mac using either the USB ports or the FireWire ports. There had been various reports from time to time of folks having problems with their external hard drives using FireWire connections after a 10.3.n o. s. update (usually the hard drive manufacturer had not been very serious about letting folks know about firmware updates and so after an update from Apple, there were some problems). These usually happened with the odd numbered updates and were fixed in the even numbered updates (and by updating the hard drive's firmware). Palm errata!! Wow, now we are going into Latin, how glorious! BTW- this iSight update i did not do. I doubt that i want to see anybody anyway as I sit in front of this computer before breakfast. Need the morning coffee first ehh? Jerry Marta On Apr 16, 2005, at 14:39, Jerry Yeager wrote: Hey MIke, Marta is a guru (smile). It looks like Apple had nothing to do on a Friday night (smile), so yesterday they decided to release a couple of updates including 10.3.9. ?Get via Apple's web-site or via SUPP. One note: since this is an odd number update a thought of caution for those of you with external Firewire hard-drives connected to your Mac(s). Shutdown the external hard drive before doing the update. Then start the drive back up afterwards. Jerry On Apr 16, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Marta Edie wrote: Mike. ?I ?learned the hard way. ?Having bought a Zire 71 ( a couple of years back) I was able to use the hotsync feature (that is what palm calls it) employing the palm software and make an addressbook and a datebook ?typing data into the computer or/and on the Palm (Zire) ,which went fine, but then I had trouble trying to put the names from my already existent addressbook and date book
MacGroup: addendum
I do have this .mac account and up there the iCal is supposed to be stored. Indeed, there are four fles there, but no application will open them. And I have not yet learned to recover anything on this machine. Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 302 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20050209/17fcb892/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:26:24 -0400
O yes, John, I did. As soon as I saw Bill's answer, I downloaded it on both of my computers. I also thank you for thanking me to have asked the question. I am always good at asking, not so good at answering. Marta On Oct 18, 2004, at 15:41, John Robinson wrote: Marta, Did you not see my response concerning What Size from Version Tracker? There is a free utility by that name that will do EXACTLY as you are wanting. I downloaded it, ran it and it does as you wish, completely. Below is the link. http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21149 John R. On Oct 18, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Marta Edie PB wrote: Thanks, Mike and Henri, I did look at the indivdual folders in the Get info section, and I guess I could add up one by one. And dear Henri, do you know how afraid I am of those arbitrary letters and signs in unix? I need a course in terminal before I even try to wade into those waters. ( But I will eventually , after reading and comprehending Pogues' introduction to it). What I actually had in mind is a tool or a command that would open the HD and then list one by one the applications, the extensions (from 9) the homefolder in toto and then each folder separate, and all the space that is occupied by that stuff that has to be there for the running of the machine as well as the total space on the machine and what is still available. If anybody could make a tool like that-- or an applescript -!! It seems it would help others as well. Marta On Oct 18, 2004, at 13:35, Henri Yandell wrote: Sounds like a tool that should exist. An OS X centric diskspace analyser. On the command line side, if you open the terminal, you can do: df -h which will show you the space used on all mounted systems (partitions, cd's, usb thumbdrives, .dmg files etc). Also: du -sh */ in your home/default directory will show the MB used by each directory there. That pretty much does break down to the information you're asking for, but probably not quite. Going back to the applescript talk, it sounds like something that could be put together quite easily if we can identify which parts of the hard-drive would be of interest. /Applications /Users/x/Library /Users/x/Documents /Users/x/Desktop /Users/x/Pictures /Users/x/Movies /Users/x/Music /Users/x/Sites what else? The iDisk stuff in .Mac (I don't have it)? Taking that, and either calling the Folder or system(du -sh), we could then have an applescript report which displays the information. Hen On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, Mike Garton wrote: The best way I know of to do this is to go within your HD and select you home folder. Don't open it just select it. press apple then i on your keyboard and that will open the Get info window pertaining to that folder. It will tell you there how large that folder is. You can also go inside you home folder and select a folder within you home folder and using that same keystroke to get information on your pictures folder, documents folder etc. You can perform this operation on any folder on your hard drive or even individual files, to find out its size permissions and other info. You can also go to file and Get Info instead of using the keystroke (apple-i). Mike On Oct 18, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Marta Edie wrote: Folks, i have a question : How does one ascertain how full one's HD is? I know it tells me on my desktop 57.47GB, 57.42 free, but that does not indicate how much of what is where, how it is allocated on the disk space and what have you. I would sort of like a blueprint to tell me how much space my personal files take up. how much my pictures , all the applications etc., so I would know how much I can load on this thing, whether I should trash stuff etc. Over the year I have just happily added , but have no idea when the system will creak of overload. A little explanation would be greatly appreciated. Marta | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be October 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 4439 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20041018/371bfb8e/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:26:24 -0400
Bill, you are a wi- It is wonderful, exactly what I wanted ! Thanks a total of all my GBs Marta On Oct 18, 2004, at 14:22, Bill Rising wrote: On Oct 18, 2004, at 13:35, Henri Yandell wrote: Sounds like a tool that should exist. An OS X centric diskspace analyser. Try checking out Whatsize at versiontracker.com Bill | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be October 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 657 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20041018/c59d4206/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:26:24 -0400
Marta On Oct 18, 2004, at 14:22, Bill Rising wrote: On Oct 18, 2004, at 13:35, Henri Yandell wrote: Sounds like a tool that should exist. An OS X centric diskspace analyser. Try checking out Whatsize at versiontracker.com Bill | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be October 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 627 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20041018/b4b4e0d5/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:26:24 -0400
Thanks, Mike and Henri, I did look at the indivdual folders in the Get info section, and I guess I could add up one by one. And dear Henri, do you know how afraid I am of those arbitrary letters and signs in unix? I need a course in terminal before I even try to wade into those waters. ( But I will eventually , after reading and comprehending Pogues' introduction to it). What I actually had in mind is a tool or a command that would open the HD and then list one by one the applications, the extensions (from 9) the homefolder in toto and then each folder separate, and all the space that is occupied by that stuff that has to be there for the running of the machine as well as the total space on the machine and what is still available. If anybody could make a tool like that-- or an applescript -!! It seems it would help others as well. Marta On Oct 18, 2004, at 13:35, Henri Yandell wrote: Sounds like a tool that should exist. An OS X centric diskspace analyser. On the command line side, if you open the terminal, you can do: df -h which will show you the space used on all mounted systems (partitions, cd's, usb thumbdrives, .dmg files etc). Also: du -sh */ in your home/default directory will show the MB used by each directory there. That pretty much does break down to the information you're asking for, but probably not quite. Going back to the applescript talk, it sounds like something that could be put together quite easily if we can identify which parts of the hard-drive would be of interest. /Applications /Users/x/Library /Users/x/Documents /Users/x/Desktop /Users/x/Pictures /Users/x/Movies /Users/x/Music /Users/x/Sites what else? The iDisk stuff in .Mac (I don't have it)? Taking that, and either calling the Folder or system(du -sh), we could then have an applescript report which displays the information. Hen On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, Mike Garton wrote: The best way I know of to do this is to go within your HD and select you home folder. Don't open it just select it. press apple then i on your keyboard and that will open the Get info window pertaining to that folder. It will tell you there how large that folder is. You can also go inside you home folder and select a folder within you home folder and using that same keystroke to get information on your pictures folder, documents folder etc. You can perform this operation on any folder on your hard drive or even individual files, to find out its size permissions and other info. You can also go to file and Get Info instead of using the keystroke (apple-i). Mike On Oct 18, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Marta Edie wrote: Folks, i have a question : How does one ascertain how full one's HD is? I know it tells me on my desktop 57.47GB, 57.42 free, but that does not indicate how much of what is where, how it is allocated on the disk space and what have you. I would sort of like a blueprint to tell me how much space my personal files take up. how much my pictures , all the applications etc., so I would know how much I can load on this thing, whether I should trash stuff etc. Over the year I have just happily added , but have no idea when the system will creak of overload. A little explanation would be greatly appreciated. Marta | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be October 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3687 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20041018/9195a393/attachment.bin
MacGroup: iDisk
I posted this question before, maybe someone can enlighten me. I have an iDisk, also a copy of it on my desktop. I know Apple recently enlarged the amount allowed to 350 MGs , and one can allocate this according to one's preferences, more or less for mail or for storage. Now everday I get a pop-up telling me that my iDisk is larger than my iDisk on the computer, and that I cannot access my iDisk until the change is made. -What is a person to do? I sent an inquiry to Apple, thus far heard nothing. Should I trash the copy on my desktop and make a new one? Your input is greatly appreciated Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 686 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20041001/edceca0e/attachment.bin
MacGroup: The new iMac
Ward, don't make me drool ! Marta On Aug 31, 2004, at 10:33, Ward Oldham wrote: Hey Bill, I can help relieve that burning sensation . . . Ward Ward Oldham, MacDude MacTown 1041 Bardstown Road Louisville, KY ?40204 502-485-1243 ward at mactown.us http://www.mactown.us From: Bill Rising brising at Louisville.edu Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:35:58 -0400 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: Re: MacGroup: The new iMac On Aug 31, 2004, at 8:46, Rex Baldazo wrote: ...is officially here: http://www.apple.com/imac/ I feel a burning sensation in my pocket... Bill -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2926 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040831/e5a89051/attachment.bin
MacGroup: LCS MacGroup meeting Tuesday 22nd
Oh Ward, and all you good people from Mactown :why do you have to address the crowd while I am over here in Germany!!!. Make sure somebody record that, or I shall have to come to the store and voice all questions I have to you and your crew and you will have to endure all my technical simplicity coupled with a good measure of philosophy of life! Too bad! But you see I am over here with my PB making the hotel here unsafe for others. Send me an e-mail, telling me how things went. I am sure you will be more vocal than your usual : yep! Marta On Jun 18, 2004, at 23:10, Ward Oldham wrote: Hey Tom, Both Mark Henderson and myself as well as one of our best technicians, Ermin Halilovic will be there to address any questions you might have. ?Looking forward to an interesting evening! Ward Ward Oldham, MacDude MacTown 1041 Bardstown Road Louisville, KY ?40204 502-485-1243 ward at mactown.us http://www.mactown.us From: Tom Guenthner tom at aye.net Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:01:01 -0400 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: MacGroup: LCS MacGroup meeting Tuesday 22nd Our Q A session at the meeting next week will feature Ward Oldham and others from MacTown on Bardstown Road. Bring your questions and welcome our featured guest this month. See you there. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be June 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3893 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040619/7019cc93/attachment.bin
MacGroup: connection failure
Dan, thanks for the answer. No, that wasn't it. However, I did some escapades with my keychain -don't ask me for the rationale behind my actions,- that did not seem to do it. Finally I thought I should isync . Well, this seems to have done the trick. I can connect without a problem. Now if anybody can enlighten me ,as to why this might have happened, I would have one puzzlement less. Marta On Jun 2, 2004, at 22:32, Dan Crutcher wrote: Marta: Make sure that you don't have the Caps Lock key accidentally pressed when entering your password, which is, of course, case sensitive. I had mine on the other day and it took me about a dozen tries until I figured out what was wrong -- because most programs substitute asterisks or dots for the letters when typing passwords you can't see that you're actually typing all capitals. Dan Hello you all out there-- File sharing from my iMac to my powerbook works fine, but since today - I cannot connect from my PB to my iMac. The pulldown window tells me the password is incorrect. I have not changed the password. I restarted the computer. I checked fileshare, it is on, I checked my keychain, it shows me the very same password I have been using and which until today worked fine. What could I do to correct this? Marta | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be June 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be June 22. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1855 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040603/d0899ca5/attachment.bin
MacGroup: valid e-mail address
Dear Kay, I neither reposted your letters three times, nor did I go down in fury. Maybe you have a slight e-mail problem, too. I simply answered you once -We have many people in the group who absolutely do not know what it means to look at the preferences and the autofill and the key chain and the ...etc .I did not know myself a year or so ago. Now i am trying to faciltate a lot of things for those coming after me in the chain of learning ,lest they be totally discouraged and never reap the benefits of the computer marvels or pay a huge fee for what can be free through the group.And--I am inquisitive by nature, so i ask questions and have gotten most of my answers -believe it or not- from males!!! ( But there are Alex. two Susans, Mike and others of our sex who do contribute ). If you do have seven computers, they must be giving you a sevenfold headache, so I am sure you can't be bothered with a little e-mail address mix-up. No, I am not a web designer, nor a programmer, but i find it fascinating how things can go awry . So we try to find answers from those who have been down the road before and can be of great help. No, not to solve the riddle of the universe, but , often in a quote or a suggestion ,can fix the whole thing and we can start puzzling about something else. I hope I shall never lose my childlike attitude of awe toward the miracles the computer has wrought for me, and turn blas?, and I am confident the group will have enough patience ( probably because they did not work for Disney or Nasa) to help us inquisitive minds who simply want to enlarge our horizons, even if we still splash in the wadiing pools of computer know-how. Teaching is a noble profession, and the group is doing a superb job. I still can't see that inanimate objects can be dumb or wise or smart, we simply transfer those human attributes to them, which is a human tendency, but scientifically incorrect. Now as to my e-mail problem - well, since I unclicked my ( use of addressbook) in my autofill and deleted a few urls in the other part of the autofill sections, the BBC, the LosAngeles Times, the Washington Post and the ABC News all have accepted my e-mail address as valid. What do you know ? Hen, Rob, Jerry, Tony et al thanks for your help, your musings , your suggestions. It is always a pleasure to get an answer, even if not a definitive one. Das ist der Lauf der Welt( that's the way the cookie crumbles) Now this is the Finale for me pertaining to this string and you can all say :Amen! Basta, basta! Marta On May 23, 2004, at 20:12, Why id you repost your letters and then mine again three times? I had to scroll scroll scroll through the digest -to find the new posts. What a fireball in response. Whw. I am sorry you took offense at my suggestions. But you don't have to be angry, and rude and make personal attacks, just because you don't like my suggestions or humor (Those that know me here, know that I am joking half the time, and that some of these letters and are suppose to be funn!y) . I have been listening to a few of your questions on this list the last few months. Frankly I wrote what I did, since it sounded to me as if you have been REALLY struggling with all of these computer dustballs you find! So I was just trying to help, by telling you, you don't have to worry about it! All computers have dustballs. In my response, just gave you some of the precious teachings that others when I first learned the mac , in the 80s gave me! ... In fact, It was John my co-workerat Disney Imagineering, (Who a decade ended up becoming the head of Disney Online) that had taught me something very much like, to what I what I just wrote to you in that note. He had told me that first year, when I was first learning how to use my first Mac--That it was most important for me to figure out what was the most important fire to bring to him to help me to solve--because there would never be enough time to solve all of them. And guess who it was that had originally, John this insight he had, about computers? It was John's dad--who had worked at NASA in the 70s on the space missions, using the very first mainframe machines. He was one of the Chief Engineers on that project!!! So pardon ME, that you didn't care to hear some of what I learned, from some very brilliant people before me... and then, in turn tried to pass on to you. The other thing I have learned, is computer mailing lists like this one, are also mostly male-centric sort of forums. And what I find, is Most computer guys don't have the time or patience to answer every single question people ask. So if you scream fire to often, on little problems, you will burn it out, and not save the energy for the bigger problems when they hit. And in regards to your fury comments- I don't hate my computers, or I would not own 7 of them. I have my degrees in art and technology
MacGroup: USB socket in PB trouble
Well, folks, before calling Apple, i did one more thing, you always suggest: I repaired permissions, and low and behold, my USB works again. It did a lot of repairing, but since I can't read logs, I don't know what it repaired. I still can't see how a bad socket could have been a software problem. I had my little jiggly thing from my cordless mouse plugged in. But I tried everything else and it did not work with this one socket, and everything worked on the other. Any ideas why? - It is good to know, though, that Apple Care is quick in responding, for I don't quite trust that this thing is fixed forever. Marta. On Apr 7, 2004, at 23:05, andrew arnold wrote: My partner had the same good experience with a bad USB port, just the same as you, Marta. He called, the box arrived on a Tue, he sent it right back while the UPS person waited, and it was back at the office on Thursday, fixed. On Apr 7, 2004, at 11:37 AM, Marta Edie typed: Thanks, Brian, I have a hub on my iMac, because I have so many jugglers hanging on, but here i am speaking about the two built-in sockets of the powerbook, one of which isn't working anymore since I woke the computer up this morning. It would be nice if one could fix it inside the PB. Maybe Ward can have his say in here, I do have the protection plan from Apple, but of course most things that go wrong are never covered. If your computer is covered by AppleCare and the USB port quit due to a hardware failure, then it's probably covered. I've been very impressed by the speed of AppleCare. We've used it twice on my wife's iBook--once for a flakey power supply and then for a screen problem--and the turnaround was very fast. When we shipped the machine in for the screen problem, it was picked up on Monday afternoon and was back by Thursday morning. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be April 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup Kind regards, Andy a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu Remember the two most important things in life: 1. Don't tell everyone everything you know 2. The software box said, Windows XP or better, so I bought a Macintosh. Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew the century was going to end.-Douglas Adams | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be April 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2774 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040408/7ecfe6c4/attachment.bin
MacGroup: USB socket in PB trouble
Hi you tech people, One of my USB sockets in my powerbook has given up the ghost, I noticed it first, when my wireless mouse did not work anymore. I then plugged it into the second socket, and it worked. Selfsame with trying to sync my palm. Only works with No 2. Suggestions? I need two sockets, so I won't have to do the plug-in pull- out dance, And I need the mouse while other operations are going on. Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 434 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040407/e6f53748/attachment.bin
MacGroup: link failure
I do banking on line. Since yesterday I have trouble to get one link working in my PB. My iMac does fine. But on my PB, when I give my ID and password, Java script tells me one of them is invalid. But of course it isn't, since I can get through fine on my iMac. I cleared history, emptied the cache, restarted, called the bank, etc. Where else might I look ? It seems that java is confused here. And it is only this single link. All other links are doing ok. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 520 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040403/c4658e82/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Safari doesn't show up in dock
Sorry, Jeff, I realized it too late! The mail had already left with that Panther swisch and I could not run after it anymore. My Swiss Bank -- ask Andy of this group, he got me into it through the bank merger- has that abbreviation, now I always transpose the letters UBS and USB. No, the plug is not the United Bank of Switzerland! Marta On Mar 31, 2004, at 15:41, Jeff @ SLYN Systems wrote: USB! ;-) Jeff On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:13:27 -0500 Marta Edie mledie at insightbb.com writes: Shoun, Oh you wise one - if we all had as much computer expertise as you do, we might at once know to ask the right questions, or we would know how to fix the problem ourselves. Two years ago I would not know an ethernet cable from a UBS ,nor would I know the names for them, Safari, mozilla and explorer were foreign languages to me. So, one asks about one's immediate problem in one's own language of the layman, and then the answer evolves, takes shape and we all benefit from the problem finally being solved. I used to see you on TV talking to this guy from one of the stations. What did I understand from your expertise there? Almost nothing, because I did not have the linguistic capability in that field. That is why I depend on David Pogue's books so much, here is a person knowing a great deal, but is able to translate it into the language of the lay person and with humor to boot. I am still lacking in computerise, but have never minded asking. I finally am making a systematic effort to find all apple sites (it is an effort- but my tenacity is paying off) . I have several friends whom I prodded into the apple environment ,( they are glad they did!) and they thought safari was a Travel Agency. And not long ago, I did not know that downloading did not necessarily mean installing!. So keep telling us more, in a language we can grasp. I just learned the word volume you mentioned, never thought of it other than in tangible form I could throw at someone when I got mad. Marta On Mar 31, 2004, at 13:03, Schoun Regan wrote: On 3/31/04 12:40 PM, Steven Brown at sbrown1157 at earthlink.net wrote: How do you install Safari and why doesn't it show up in the dock? Steve, Are you saying Safari is not on your volume? What version of the OS are you running? 10.2, 10.3? If you do not see the Safari icon in the Applications folder, then it is likely that you do not have it installed. Did you use the Find command (apple-F) under the File menu in the Finder to look for it? If you do not have it, a simple look at Apple's web site would have gotten you there. http://www.apple.com/safari/ There is a nice big button that says Download Safari 1.2 One you download Safari, it will install itself inside the Applications folder. When you double-click on Safari, you can go to the Safari Preferences under the Safari menu and choose the General icon. You can then set Safari as your default browser. If Safari is running, it will appear in your Dock, simply holding down the mouse button over the Safari icon in the dock will pop up a menu and you can choose to keep it in the Dock. After seeing your second post while writing this, I can launch safari, but nothing in it opens. I do have it set as default. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong? I might suggest you look at the menu bar when you double-click on Safari. Does it show the word Safari next to the blue Apple? If so, then Safari is launching and you should be able to go to the File menu and choose new window. If, when you double-click on the Safari icon you do NOT see the word Safari next to the blue Apple, then you might want to download and reinstall Safari. Next time try to be more explicit when describing the problem. It may help others help you faster. Schoun The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 4511 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040331/6b646d87/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Appleworks
Mike, thanks for telling me you are running 6.2.9. I searched and found the upgrade. Usually my software update does this sort op thing ,automatically, but somehow here it failed. I installed the upgrade right away on my iMac, will do so on my PB today. Thanks Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.. On Mar 26, 2004, at 20:46, Mike Watkins wrote: Marta, I'm running Appleworks 6.2.9...don't know if it goes further than that. I'm a bit behind you, since I'm still on Jaguar. And thanks to you and to Schoun for your input on the GB's installed and available question. I still wonder what brought it on, but I'm glad to have it. Don't think I've changed the Finder view options since I had Jerry Y. install Jaguar, and it's started since then. Like Schoun says, I'll just be happy. Mike On Friday, March 26, 2004, at 08:42 PM, Marta Edie PB wrote: People, I am using Appleworks. Is there ever an upgrade ? I am running 6.2.7. Is that the end of the line? It seems to have been that way forever. Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1099 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040327/b45ce9d4/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Appleworks
People, I am using Appleworks. Is there ever an upgrade ? I am running 6.2.7. Is that the end of the line? It seems to have been that way forever. Marta -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 172 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040326/fe407d7e/attachment.bin
MacGroup: Crashed hard drive
I can't believe it. A crashed hard drive in the fridge! I first thought this was all a joke. You people never cease to amaze me! I won't be able to make it to the meeting. Leaving this city. However - I hope someone will take notes with ME in mind. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.! On Mar 22, 2004, at 00:19, Bill Holt wrote: Don, I can't vouch for the freezer approach, but did, some years ago, have success by substantially cooling a malfunctioning hard drive and doing an immediate file recovery operation. If it were me, I would bag the unit with several containers of dried silica sand and put it in the fridge over night. Loosen the cover screws before-hand. Turn the a/c down in the room as far as you can stand it. I'd be sure to have a full can of canned air for cooling and drying purposes. Next morning, I'd fire up the puter, fire up SCSI Mounter, and put the 'puter to sleep. Then, I'd pull the drive out of the fridge, hook it up to the 'puter, lift off the cover, and turn it on. And if it made anything like a startup sound, I'd wake up the computer and use SCSI Mounter to attempt to mount it. I'd gently tap the mechanism with a screwdriver if the drive didn't appear to be winding up - and stop as soon as it showed any signs of life. Then, if the drive mounted, I'd copy my most critical files first - in the fastest way - preferably to an internal HD. If there is an option, it may be preferable to recover to an ATA/IDE drive (a HD or a zip) instead of another SCSI unit. While files were transferring, I'd use the canned air to keep the unit cool and to counteract any visible signs of condensation on the control board. Then, if I were successful, I'd swear to implement a routine backup program so that the next time I had a hard drive fail it would only be an inconvenience. This, incidentally, I did after that failure some years ago, and it made my second HD failure, last year, tolerable. From: Dan Crutcher dcrutcher at loumag.com Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:20:54 -0500 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: MacGroup: Crashed hard drive A friend of mine has had what sounds like a hard drive crash of a LaCie Tsunami external SCSI drive connected to a G3 Mac. She isn't sure exactly what size the drive is; she says believes it's more than five years old and in the 100-200 MB range. She says it made a clicking or clunking sound right before (or when) it died. Now when plugged in and connected it emits several beeps, the power light blinks red for a while and then goes solid green, but it doesn't appear to spin up. She has several months of unbacked-up data on this drive and would really like to be able to recover whatever is recoverable. She has called several places that recover data, but they have estimated a cost of $500-$1200 -- if it's even recoverable. That's more than she can afford (or thinks the data is worth to her). Does anyone out there have any suggestions on: 1. Tricks she might try to get the drive to spin up at least one more time so she can copy files off it? 2. A lower-priced data recovery option? Thanks. Dan | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be March 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be March 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3674 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040323/bf112207/attachment.bin
MacGroup: ripping vinyl
You two Bills, thanks so very much. I am storing your info until I get this all digested.It sounds wonderful!. I guess these younger people don't even own any LPs anymore, and I have hundreds of them still. Of course I also still have these famous reel players. I have got whole operas on them. I tell you, I could spend my life with this computer and then some -- Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.. On Mar 20, 2004, at 22:06, Bill King wrote: on 03/20/04 21:41, Marta Edie at mledie at insightbb.com wrote: People, are you talking about putting songs from the old records 33rpms unto a CD? I did not know that could be done by individuals like us! I wish I could find a way to do that, but I guess it would be easier and cheaper to buy these old labels on the new CDs that are springing up everywhere now. But I do have some special old records with German actors on them which are not reproduced. So let me hear of the possibilities. I had never heard of ripping vinyl. Marta Marta, We are talking about old 33 rpm vinyl LPs; in my case, LPs from the late 1950s through the early 1970s. All that is required is an iMic, which is a device to connect the analog audio from a turntable to the USB input of your Mac. Then download the free software to convert the analog signals to digital form. This software is Final Vinyl. The iMic and Final Vinyl are available from Griffin Technology (www.griffintechnology.com). The iMic as best I remember is around $35. Usually, the LPs are not converted one song at a time but one side at a time. Then another piece of software is used to separate each side into individual songs. I think this can be done with Final Vinyl but a free program, Audacity, would be a better choice. Audacity is available from www.audacity.sourceforge.net ( Not soundforge as in my earlier post.) Bill | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be March 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2119 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040320/4e2e080d/attachment.bin
MacGroup: logitech mouse
Thanks, Harry and Michael, I installed it . It works fine, however, when I install Panther, it may only do the plain functions, so the lady said when i called. This mouse will only support up to Jaguar. One more question : how long approx.does one of those run on those two batteries since there is no device to turn it off when not in use? Marta On Monday, Jan 12, 2004, at 11:23 US/Eastern, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote: I have a Microsoft intellimouse which is cordless and it works just fine with jaguar. The base station is on my desk cuddled up between an external speaker and an Epson printer. The speaker, printer and mouse work just fine. Monday, January 12, 200410:04 AMMarta Ediemledie at insightbb.com a friend gave me a cordless logitech mouse for Christmas. It is sort of bulky with a scroll wheel on top, a switch button and those right and left clickers which usually only come for PCs. Before installing the thing I would like to know whether anybody has had experience with that kind of mouse. The receiver is to be put at least 8 inches away from electrical devices. My whole desk is full of printers, scanners, lamps and what have yous. Does that make any difference? Maybe i should install it into my PB, which sits by itself unencumbered by devices. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: Konfabulator, widgets Palm files
Hi Harry and Alex, i am so glad you are discussing this matter, because I use the palm zire 71 and am not sure what i will be in for when i turn to Panther. At the moment I use palm desktop on my powerbook, because I like that you can print whole addresses from the Palm software, not so with Apple addressbook. There you can only print telephone numbers or e-mail addresses with the name. That is a flaw of that Apple addressbook and irritating to me. Neither can you print your calendar in a list form, which to me is important, because i can go back and trace all appts and events etc for the last few years in a printout list. I had hoped with Panther it would be different, but apparently it is not.. With my i-Mac I sync all the palm data and Apple addressbook stuff and iCAl and through my .mac account everything to my powerbook and sync the pictures into my i-photo folders ( zire 71 has that little camera in it) . The trouble with i-sync is that it overrides all the palm desktop except the note pad and the pictures. In order to not have to change conduits all the time from the abled to the disabled, I chose to hot-sync palm stuff only on my PB to get all the entries that can be printed in addressbook form, and i-sync everything on my i-Mac which then shows on my PB too. If anybody could tell me how to print out address lists from the Apple stuff, I would not need the palm addressbook and calendar at all. ( there once was a download where you were to work through text-edit to print total addresses, but it was not successful, it lost its formatting.) Will Panther tell you what to install for Palm? Or is that a new download? I, too have too many palm do-dos and conduits etc floating around. Marta On Saturday, Jan 3, 2004, at 13:41 US/Eastern, Alex Whitman wrote: Hi Harry- I use a Handspring Treo - like your Visor, it runs Palm OS, so I do need some of the Palm software in order to HotSync. But I use iCal and Apple Address Book on the iMac because they are friendlier (to me) than Palm Desktop. I used Palm Desktop with Windows98 and XP boxes back before I saw the light. I still have everything I need to run Classic apps... I just haven't ever needed any (yet!). Alex .. Original Message ... On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:59:00 -0500 Harry Jacobson-Beyer harryjb at bellsouth.net wrote: Alex, Don't know what to tell you. I use Palm Desktop because I have a Handspring Visor (palm lookalike). I used it with OS9 and now with panther. My classic is on a separate partition but I'm not deleting anything on that partition. It just stays there waiting | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: iCal question
My iCal in the week display shows day and date in my PB, however, my iMac only shows the date. Example : PB = Sunday, Dec 14, iMac = Dec 14.Since one can start the week either with Sunday or Monday, I always have to think it over whether a certain date falls on a certain day of the week. The month view shows day and date in both machines. i tried all the preferences, but have not been successful in making the change. Some pointers would be helpful. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be January 27. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: The Powers of Ten is back
How interesting! Thanks,Jerry! How do you know it is a java applet? whatever that is. Everytime I hear applet, I think of small crab apples! Marta On Friday, Nov 14, 2003, at 16:28 US/Eastern, Jerry Yeager wrote: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/ index.html The link has a neat JAVA applet the seems to be okay for viewing via dial-up modems as well as higher speed set-ups. From the really far away to the very close up. And yet, you don't even have to get really small to see it (Sorry Steve). Jerry | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: pronunciation of daemon
Ann, I was just trying to look up up all greek nythology for this daemon -German D?mon -ae makes ? - when Ed beat me to it. I love this website. If I stay longer at this computer I shall grow roots in my behind! New explorations every day, no, every hour On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 14:01 US/Eastern, Anne Cartwright wrote: Ed Wiser, Thanks ever so much for this really neat site. It's given me a column for the next issue of Access as well as an educating time killer. Anne Cartwright Marta, eat your heart out; you should find this site awfully close to heaven. On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 01:20 PM, Ed Wiser wrote: http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/d/daemon.html -Original Message- From: Brian O'Neal [mailto:brimac at mac.com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:08 PM To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: MacGroup: pronunciation of daemon does daemon, sound like thats my friend daymon or demons be gone in the name of Jesus! Just wondering Brian O'Neal | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: pronunciation of daemon
So you are on to the despair site, too? It is a clever relief. But Daemon and Demon come from the same root. D?monische Kr?fte - positiv? Negative? At the very least: powerful! Take your pick. --Just as the despair people say: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups or none of us is as dumb as all of us! On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 16:53 US/Eastern, Bill Rising wrote: On 11/6/03 13:08, Brian O'Neal wrote does daemon, sound like thats my friend daymon or demons be gone in the name of Jesus! uh oh. If it is pronounced like the latter, I could see the Justice Dept. insisting that unix be banned in the name of family values. (See http://www.despair.com/nepotism.html ) Bill | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: mail boxes
I need your help: I have two mail accounts, one from insight, the other from .mac. On my iMac the inbox has two sub-boxes one for the .mac. the other for my insight account . Clicking on one or the other, brings up each inbox, or I can click on the main inbox icon and they all merge. Now on my PB , in order to bring up the .mac account, I have to go to the account proper on my .mac page which involves more maneuvering . How can I get this computer to do what the other does? I searched in pref. checked all the possibilities in the menubar etc. I simply can't find the proper clicking method to be able to receive the .mac right in my regular mailbox. Any help will be appreciated Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: Panther bug
A friend of mine who has just switched to the Mac and has Panther, and is in the process of loading all his stuff into the Mac ( Seattle, not Louisville)-found this link and wants me -- of all people -- to tell him if this is serious. ( I guess I will hear it from now on, because I prodded him into the MacWorld. ) http://www.macintouch.com/panfirewire.html. Someone might want to comment on this , so I can give him some sort of an answer. Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be November 25. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: cordless mouse and keyboard
I read in MacWorld about the new cordless mouse and keyboard needing Bluetooth. Are there any other ways for a cordless mouse and keyboard for the Mac, or must I buy a Bluetooth module? I thought my airport should be able to do the same. Please fill me in. Thanks Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be October 26. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: don't install new OS X update!
And what is cocktail, pray tell me? Marta On Wednesday, Sep 24, 2003, at 17:42 US/Eastern, Rob Kersting wrote: I didn't have any trouble either, except for trying to repair permissions after the update. Disk Utility would only get about 1/3 of the way done then it would freeze. Luckily, I had read about this on Macfixit.com, so I knew it was coming. I just restarted and used Cocktail to repair permissions. Worked find and was still working this morning. There's always a first time... rob Jerry Yeager wrote: No problems here on either the iBook nor the desktop. I wonder how Apple will solve this one? Jerry On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Bill Rising wrote: On 9/24/03 0:44, Matt Gantner wrote Apple has pulled the recent update (posted 9/23) Here is a slashdot article about it with some links to apple http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/23/2237224 folks are complaining of network DNS problems among other things Too late. Yours truly installed it (because of the need for ssh): at work: intenet connectivity is spotty. Works fine for long periods then disappears. at home: machine won't boot, gets as far as putting up a desktop picture, then the pointer disappears, it goes back to a blue screen, then back to the calibrated blue screen, then back to the desktop picture. Doesn't wanna boot off a CD either, so I'm gonna have to play stupid hard drive games to get things fixed. ugh. Bill | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be September 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin A.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be September 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
MacGroup: don't install new OS X update!
Thanks Rob and Ed, I am getting smarter by the day , having such help. But it does seem odd that you need a repair program to repair repairs. I shall save the link and study the thing. My brain has been assaulted with all that technical knowledge that I am having difficulty remembering it all. When will you guys get smart enough to plant another memory chip into old people's brains? I am sure my chip of 77 years is totally filled up, and I cannot erase any byte of superfluous memory from yesteryear. What wants to come in is constantly being blocked. Marta On Wednesday, Sep 24, 2003, at 18:31 US/Eastern, Rob Kersting wrote: Cocktail is a handy little tool that does a bunch o' stuff for OSX, much like MacJanitor. From the versiontracker.com description: Product Description: Available features: enable or disable journaling, set disk spindown time, re-prebind files, repair permissions, run cron scripts, delete cache files, recreate alias to Mac OS 9 desktop, force empty trash, delete locked items, delete DS_Store files, delete archived log files, view log files, create symbolic links, change speed and duplex of network cards, set size of the TCP receive and send window, turn off delayed acks, request new IP from DHCP server, change network ports, customize look and features of Finder and Dock, enable hidden features in miscellaneous applications, easily optimize system using Auto Pilot ... Here' s the link: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/18282 rob Marta Edie PB wrote: And what is cocktail, pray tell me? Marta On Wednesday, Sep 24, 2003, at 17:42 US/Eastern, Rob Kersting wrote: I didn't have any trouble either, except for trying to repair permissions after the update. Disk Utility would only get about 1/3 of the way done then it would freeze. Luckily, I had read about this on Macfixit.com, so I knew it was coming. I just restarted and used Cocktail to repair permissions. Worked find and was still working this morning. There's always a first time... rob Jerry Yeager wrote: No problems here on either the iBook nor the desktop. I wonder how Apple will solve this one? Jerry On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Bill Rising wrote: On 9/24/03 0:44, Matt Gantner wrote Apple has pulled the recent update (posted 9/23) Here is a slashdot article about it with some links to apple http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/23/2237224 folks are complaining of network DNS problems among other things Too late. Yours truly installed it (because of the need for ssh): at work: intenet connectivity is spotty. Works fine for long periods then disappears. at home: machine won't boot, gets as far as putting up a desktop picture, then the pointer disappears, it goes back to a blue screen, then back to the calibrated blue screen, then back to the desktop picture. Doesn't wanna boot off a CD either, so I'm gonna have to play stupid hard drive games to get things fixed. ugh. Bill | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be September 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. Marta Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin A.D. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be September 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be September 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be September 23. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org. | This list's page is http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup.
