Re: Unable to burn a Lion install DVD -- what am I doing wrong?
On 06 Aug 2013, at 14:23 , Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote: Attempting to burn it from the left hand list in Disk Utility, onto what I thought was a standard DVD (if it makes a difference, it's a DVD+R from Office Depot; it has an rw logo on it, but is not erasable) gives the message The disc inserted does not have enough free space. What am I doing wrong? Nothing. The blank does not have enough free space. You will need a Dual Layer disc. You are better off burning to a 8GB USB stick. -- Don't just *do* something: *sit* there! ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Unable to burn a Lion install DVD -- what am I doing wrong?
I'd like help to burn a Lion install DVD. I have downloaded the lion installer from Apple. I have found the InstallESD.dmg file inside of it. File size is: 4,706,314,014 bytes (4.71 GB on disk) Attempting to burn it from the left hand list in Disk Utility, onto what I thought was a standard DVD (if it makes a difference, it's a DVD+R from Office Depot; it has an rw logo on it, but is not erasable) gives the message The disc inserted does not have enough free space. What am I doing wrong? --- Entertaining minecraft videos http://YouTube.com/keybounce ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Mountain Lion Mail Delete Behavior (Can I get back to previous behavior?)
Hi folks: This is the place I turn to when my Mac is giving me a headache. For many years, I have been using Apple Mail, and until 10.6.8, when I would click on a single message in Classic View (List) with the newest mail at the bottom of the screen, the delete key would cause the message below the deleted message to then be highlighted. Now, unless the message above the unread message is read, the messages that's highlighted is above the message I just deleted. Is there any preference or other fix I can use to get back the old behavior? The workaround is to view messages with the newest ones at the top, but I prefer them at the bottom. Thanks for any insight on this. All the best, Andrew Andrew Darlow Editor, The Imaging Buffet http://www.imagingbuffet.com Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques: An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com and Pet Photography 101: Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Mountain Lion problems on a Mac Pro
Hi, I am having a lot of problems with Mountain Lion (ML) on my fairly old Mac Pro. I think my Mac Pro is the earliest version that is supported for ML. The original installation of ML ran fine (as far as I know) for about 6 or 7 months, but then some big problems arose. I reinstalled ML on a different hard drive and that worked for a few weeks, but then it developed some other (similar but different) major problems. I then did another reinstallation of ML on yet a third hard drive and now I'm having another set of problems (similar but different). Here is a summary of what I remember about the 3 sets of problems: FIRST INSTALLATION: I upgraded from Lion around the first of the year and I did not notice a problem for about 6 to 7 months. At some point, though, I had problems with the 2 Microsoft Office apps that I use. Suddenly I could not save or print Excel files or Word files. I reinstalled MS Office a few times, but the problems persisted. I ran Disk Utility many times. Finally, I gave up and did a fresh install of ML on a different hard drive. I used Migration Assistant to copy my user files to the new ML disk. SECOND INSTALLATION: This second ML installation seemed to work for a few weeks. Both Excel and Word worked, but then at some point I had problems with Apple Mail and Safari. Safari would crash some (but not all) of the time, even when going to sites that I had gone to every day for years. Mail would not even run at all. The icon would bounce for a second or two, but then crash before even bringing up the Mail window. So, I gave up again and did yet another fresh install of ML on yet another hard drive. I again used Migration Assistant, but I tried to migrate fewer things. THIRD INSTALLATION: This third ML installation worked for about 2 weeks, but then yesterday I started having trouble with Excel again. Mail was also a little weird (it would not do address completion for an address that always completed before -- and the completion check box in Mail Preferences was checked). And Toast would not start because it said it needed QuickTime 7 or later, even though I have QuickTime 10.2 installed (and then I also downloaded and installed QuickTime 7). Sometimes I use Toast Video Player and that also would not start because it wanted QuickTime 5! I'm not crippled yet (like when Mail would not even start), but enough things are flaky that I think I have a serious problem again. The problems associated with the 3 installations are not identical, but they seem similar enough to suggest some general incompatibility. Does anyone have any ideas about what is going wrong? And why does each installation start out fine, but then develop problems after a while (often a SHORT while)? Since I used 3 different hard drives, I find it hard to believe that it's a hard drive problem, but I suppose anything is possible. I believe they were all 3-TB Seagate drives. I guess I could go back to Lion, though I don't know if everything is backward compatible. For example, now that my iPhoto and iTunes (and other) libraries have been updated to run with the latest Mountain Lion versions of the apps, will these libraries still work with the Lion versions? One possibility is that a newer Mac might help. I am hoping to get a new Mac Pro (the newly designed cylinder type), so I'd hate to buy the current model if the new model is supposedly coming out very soon. I have a Mac Mini, so I guess I could use that and try to connect my extra drives externally until I get a new Mac Pro. Any suggestions to solve my current problems would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail Delete Behavior (Can I get back to previous behavior?)
I don't believe it matters how you order your mailing list. It's just that the algorithm for selecting the next message to view has changed incompatibly. Now, when you delete a piece of mail, if the message on one side of it is read and the message on the other side of it is unread, no matter in what order, the next message to come up will be the one that was unread. It's not just incompatible with the earlier behavior, it's just plain inconsistent. It used to be that I could wander down the day's mail, and if I found a message I wanted to put off handling until later, I would just mark it unread and keep going. But now when I'm finished with the next message and I delete it, Mail keeps throwing me back to the earlier message because of course it's marked unread. And it will do that even if the next message is also marked unread. It now seems to have a preference for going backward whenever it can. It's just maddening, and I wish they would get rid of it. On Aug 8, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Andrew Darlow a...@andrewdarlow.com wrote: Hi folks: This is the place I turn to when my Mac is giving me a headache. For many years, I have been using Apple Mail, and until 10.6.8, when I would click on a single message in Classic View (List) with the newest mail at the bottom of the screen, the delete key would cause the message below the deleted message to then be highlighted. Now, unless the message above the unread message is read, the messages that's highlighted is above the message I just deleted. Is there any preference or other fix I can use to get back the old behavior? The workaround is to view messages with the newest ones at the top, but I prefer them at the bottom. Thanks for any insight on this. All the best, Andrew Andrew Darlow Editor, The Imaging Buffet http://www.imagingbuffet.com Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques: An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com and Pet Photography 101: Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail Delete Behavior (Can I get back to previous behavior?)
Thank you very much for your comments. I agree that it's maddening, but it clearly flip flops in its behavior, which is very odd for a computer. Currently it is behaving the way it used to. All the best, Andrew Andrew Darlow Editor, The Imaging Buffet http://www.imagingbuffet.com Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques: An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com and Pet Photography 101: Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow On Sep 18, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote: I don't believe it matters how you order your mailing list. It's just that the algorithm for selecting the next message to view has changed incompatibly. Now, when you delete a piece of mail, if the message on one side of it is read and the message on the other side of it is unread, no matter in what order, the next message to come up will be the one that was unread. It's not just incompatible with the earlier behavior, it's just plain inconsistent. It used to be that I could wander down the day's mail, and if I found a message I wanted to put off handling until later, I would just mark it unread and keep going. But now when I'm finished with the next message and I delete it, Mail keeps throwing me back to the earlier message because of course it's marked unread. And it will do that even if the next message is also marked unread. It now seems to have a preference for going backward whenever it can. It's just maddening, and I wish they would get rid of it. On Aug 8, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Andrew Darlow a...@andrewdarlow.com wrote: Hi folks: This is the place I turn to when my Mac is giving me a headache. For many years, I have been using Apple Mail, and until 10.6.8, when I would click on a single message in Classic View (List) with the newest mail at the bottom of the screen, the delete key would cause the message below the deleted message to then be highlighted. Now, unless the message above the unread message is read, the messages that's highlighted is above the message I just deleted. Is there any preference or other fix I can use to get back the old behavior? The workaround is to view messages with the newest ones at the top, but I prefer them at the bottom. Thanks for any insight on this. All the best, Andrew Andrew Darlow Editor, The Imaging Buffet http://www.imagingbuffet.com Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques: An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com and Pet Photography 101: Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Using Java on the command line (Mountain Lion)
I'm having trouble with java on the command line.
I can compile a .java file but when I want to run the class I always end up
with:
Error: Could not find or load main class {class name}.class
even though the code runs perfectly well in NetBeans.
I've checked the web and it looks like the class path needs to be defined to
include . *but* that was never necessary in previous iterations of the OS.
What's wrong with the system ?
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Re: App that can open AppleWorks document on Mountain Lion?
And where's mthe beef ...say the file Rudolf Am 23.11.2012 um 23.39 schrieb Kevin Callahan: Wow! that's nice of you. I've asked my friend if he'd like to go with this. My friend, Peter, sent me this: I have been given a file with a collection of homilies. The homilies were written by a very close friend of mine who passed away in 1997. The file supposedly was taken from his mac (a very old mac). I'm waiting to hear back from Peter. Thanks Rudolf! - Kevin http://www.kevincallahan.org/ ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: App that can open AppleWorks document on Mountain Lion?
If Pages doesn't work you're up the creek. To extract as much of the text as you can interpret, you can drag drop it on TextEdit while holding down the command and option keys, which will force it to try to open that file type, then strip out the binary cruft. But better would be an older system that runs TextEdit, then save as RTF. On Nov 13, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: A friend is trying to open a file from a very old Mac (circa 1997 or earlier). It's a document file. I'm guessing it might be an AppleWorks document. Is there an app on Mountain Lion that can open AppleWorks documents? TextEdit doesn't understand the format. -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: App that can open AppleWorks document on Mountain Lion?
Hi Kevin I'm still running an old iMac (Lamp) and have Tiger with Classic on it, as well as Clarisworks 5, a Clarisworks 4 translator, Classic Appleworks 6 and Appleworks 6 for OSX. So, if it's only one file (and no secret things in it :-), you may send it over and I'll give a try to convert it to Appleworks 6. This in turn may be opened by Pages or numbers (depending the kind of file). Rudolf Mailadress: r.o.dur...@durrer.org On Nov 13, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: A friend is trying to open a file from a very old Mac (circa 1997 or earlier). It's a document file. I'm guessing it might be an AppleWorks document. Is there an app on Mountain Lion that can open AppleWorks documents? TextEdit doesn't understand the format. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: App that can open AppleWorks document on Mountain Lion?
On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: A friend is trying to open a file from a very old Mac (circa 1997 or earlier). It's a document file. I'm guessing it might be an AppleWorks document. Is there an app on Mountain Lion that can open AppleWorks documents? TextEdit doesn't understand the format. Absolute worst case scenario: Open Terminal (/Applications/Utilities/Terminal) When in Terminal, type: more and then drag the document in question into the Terminal window. That will stick the document's path into the command line. Then, hit return. That will show the raw data of the file. If it was a word processor document, you'll be able to make out much/all of what's there. If it was a spreadsheet or other format, you'll just see junk. But, if it was a spreadsheet, Excel should easily open it. -Andy___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
App that can open AppleWorks document on Mountain Lion?
A friend is trying to open a file from a very old Mac (circa 1997 or earlier). It's a document file. I'm guessing it might be an AppleWorks document. Is there an app on Mountain Lion that can open AppleWorks documents? TextEdit doesn't understand the format. Thanks, Kevin ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: App that can open AppleWorks document on Mountain Lion?
I've had success opening AppleWorks text files with Pages. Likewise, you may open other AW type docs with Numbers, even Keynote. Don't know if you have tried that already, though. BBEdit is also very good opening text files. The free alternative, TextWrangler is similarly capable. Cesar Alsina ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: App that can open AppleWorks document on Mountain Lion?
Kevin Callahan squawked out on Tuesday 13-Nov-2012@16:34:59 A friend is trying to open a file from a very old Mac (circa 1997 or earlier). It's a document file. I'm guessing it might be an AppleWorks document. Is there an app on Mountain Lion that can open AppleWorks documents? I don’t think there is, you have to be running 10.6 and have Appleworks installed. -- Kickboxing. Sport of the future. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: App that can open AppleWorks document on Mountain Lion?
On Nov 13, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Cesar Alsina als...@mac.com wrote: I've had success opening AppleWorks text files with Pages. Likewise, you may open other AW type docs with Numbers, even Keynote. Don't know if you have tried that already, though. BBEdit is also very good opening text files. The free alternative, TextWrangler is similarly capable. Pages gives file format error. I'll try the others, thanks. K Cesar Alsina ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: BTW: everything is working fine now -- so it probably was a flag that wasn't being set on the iMac 27 for some reason. I should add, my MBPro 17 is still getting the alert. When selecting a word in Mail and running a SEARCH (via Yahoo), I continue to get the RUN SERVICE alert, but nothing happens. Safari is not launched and the search never happens. I then quit Mail, relaunched it, tried again -- the alert continues to show up. Console says no information from LS (Launch Services) about running process. K On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: yes - on my iMac 27, I was able to repeatedly bring up the alert in Mail... However, on 3 other machines, the alert would no longer show once I clicked Run Service. After a few times in Mail, the alert is no longer appearing. Looks like all is okay now, but for a while there, I felt like I was running Windows. K On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Nathan Sims newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: You're saying this happens _every time_ or just the first time you try to utilize a specific 'restricted service'? when doing a SEARCH on SELECTED TEXT in any app other than Safari on my iMac 27 (downloaded after release) ... but on my iMac 24 (running the GM), the alert doesn't appear - same build number same settings on Security anything else I need to check? On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: I selected some text in Mail and launched a Search Yahoo via the contextual menu. I got the following alert. Same happens with TextEdit and I expect any other app other than Safari. confirmService.png There must be a way to turn this this off, no? I can't stand seeing this alert and having to click Run Service every time I want to run a search on Yahoo. What is selecting text in a document to search on a restricted service ? K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
Kevin Callahan spake on Monday 30-Jul-2012@20:59:13 I selected some text in Mail and launched a Search Yahoo via the contextual menu. I got the following alert. Same happens with TextEdit and I expect any other app other than Safari. Where is the Search Yahoo service from? I don't have it on my system. -- It was the sort of grin people use when they stare at your left ear and tell you in an urgent tone of voice that they are being spied on by secret agents from the next galaxy. It was not a grin to inspire confidence. More horrible grins had probably been seen, but only on the sort of grinner that is orange with black stripes, has a long tail and hangs around in jungles looking for victims to grin at. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: I believe contextual menu search (by default was Google) is something baked into OS X some versions back. Well yes, Services has been in OS X since forever. And the interface to its configuration has been awful the whole time. But Apple doesn't ship OS X with any Yahoo searching; that you have such an option means its being provided by some other means, most likely by an application present on your system. I'd suggest downloading Services Manager http://macosxautomation.com/services/servicesmanager and finding the Yahoo search service in the list. You can then Command+Click and select Reveal in Finder which will show you what application is at issue; perhaps the developer has an update. David___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Mountain Lion sleep services
my iMac is seeing issues with sleep services as of ML like so: (machine becomes rather unresponsive -- so I generally reboot) anybody else seeing something like this? 7/31/12 4:39:17.740 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (com.apple.cfprefsd.xpc.daemon[37384]) Exited: Killed: 9 7/31/12 4:39:17.000 PM kernel[0]: memorystatus_thread: idle exiting pid 37384 [cfprefsd] 7/31/12 4:39:19.621 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (com.apple.sleepservicesd[37385]) Exited: Killed: 9 7/31/12 4:39:19.000 PM kernel[0]: memorystatus_thread: idle exiting pid 37385 [SleepServicesD] 7/31/12 4:39:19.983 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[249]: (com.apple.cfprefsd.xpc.agent[37383]) Exited: Killed: 9 7/31/12 4:39:20.000 PM kernel[0]: memorystatus_thread: idle exiting pid 37383 [cfprefsd] 7/31/12 4:39:30.661 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (com.apple.sleepservicesd[37386]) Exited: Killed: 9 7/31/12 4:39:30.000 PM kernel[0]: memorystatus_thread: idle exiting pid 37386 [SleepServicesD] 7/31/12 4:39:42.358 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (com.apple.sleepservicesd[37387]) Exited: Killed: 9 7/31/12 4:39:42.000 PM kernel[0]: memorystatus_thread: idle exiting pid 37387 [SleepServicesD] 7/31/12 4:40:03.000 PM kernel[0]: Sandbox: sandboxd(37407) deny mach-lookup com.apple.coresymbolicationd ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:34 AM, David Schwartz da...@yesdavid.com wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:55 AM, objectwerks inc c...@objectwerks.com wrote: It uses whatever your default search engine is. So it does. The Service itself is provided by Safari.app (from Apple, but not part of the OS per se). So the question becomes what version of Safari is used on the machine(s) with the problem? This is with Mountain Lion, so it's Safari: Version 6.0 (8536.25) The issue went away on my iMac after telling the alert to RUN SERVICE. I just think the flag was not being set for some reason. Still getting the alert on my MBPro (running ML), however, even though I've always tapped the RUN SERVICE button in the alert each time it comes up. What's interesting is that the alert says it's a restricted service yet it's a service that has been backed into the OS for years. K -david___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: it's a service that has been backed into the OS for years. That could be a debatable point. Yes, Safari is an integral part of OS X, and can't even be deleted at the Finder level, but it's still an individual application, and it's that application that is providing the Service. Same as any other Service providing dot-app or dot-service package does. Anyway, here's an Apple Support Communities thread suggesting that running repair permissions worked for the user: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4145421 My Google-Fu doesn't reveal a lot of other reports, suggesting it's not a widespread problem. It doesn't appear that Apple offers Safari 6 as a stand alone download, and there's no Combo system updater yet (which often solves this sort of component-level problem), but if permission repair has no effect (which remember, you an perform from the Recovery partition) I'd still be looking at Safari.app as the culprit. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
I selected some text in Mail and launched a "Search Yahoo" via the contextual menu. I got the following alert. Same happens with TextEdit and I expect any other app other than Safari.There must be a way to turn this this off, no? I can't stand seeing this alert and having to click "Run Service" every time I want to run a search on Yahoo. What is selecting text in a document to search on a "restricted service" ?K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
You're saying this happens _every time_ or just the first time you try to utilize a specific 'restricted service'? On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: I selected some text in Mail and launched a Search Yahoo via the contextual menu. I got the following alert. Same happens with TextEdit and I expect any other app other than Safari. confirmService.png There must be a way to turn this this off, no? I can't stand seeing this alert and having to click Run Service every time I want to run a search on Yahoo. What is selecting text in a document to search on a restricted service ? K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: I selected some text in Mail and launched a Search Yahoo via the contextual menu. What application is providing the Search Yahoo service? (Hint: it's not built into OS X...) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
yes - on my iMac 27, I was able to repeatedly bring up the alert in Mail... However, on 3 other machines, the alert would no longer show once I clicked Run Service. After a few times in Mail, the alert is no longer appearing. Looks like all is okay now, but for a while there, I felt like I was running Windows. K On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Nathan Sims newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: You're saying this happens _every time_ or just the first time you try to utilize a specific 'restricted service'? when doing a SEARCH on SELECTED TEXT in any app other than Safari on my iMac 27 (downloaded after release) ... but on my iMac 24 (running the GM), the alert doesn't appear - same build number same settings on Security anything else I need to check? On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: I selected some text in Mail and launched a Search Yahoo via the contextual menu. I got the following alert. Same happens with TextEdit and I expect any other app other than Safari. confirmService.png There must be a way to turn this this off, no? I can't stand seeing this alert and having to click Run Service every time I want to run a search on Yahoo. What is selecting text in a document to search on a restricted service ? K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote: Are you maybe an admin user on the iMac 24 and not on the iMac 27? Admin on all my machines -- but I was running the GM on the iMac 24 (dev release) and on my other machines, I grabbed them from the App Store -K On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Nathan Sims newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: You're saying this happens _every time_ or just the first time you try to utilize a specific 'restricted service'? when doing a SEARCH on SELECTED TEXT in any app other than Safari on my iMac 27 (downloaded after release) ... but on my iMac 24 (running the GM), the alert doesn't appear - same build number same settings on Security anything else I need to check? On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: I selected some text in Mail and launched a Search Yahoo via the contextual menu. I got the following alert. Same happens with TextEdit and I expect any other app other than Safari. confirmService.png There must be a way to turn this this off, no? I can't stand seeing this alert and having to click Run Service every time I want to run a search on Yahoo. What is selecting text in a document to search on a restricted service ? K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
BTW: everything is working fine now -- so it probably was a flag that wasn't being set on the iMac 27 for some reason. On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: yes - on my iMac 27, I was able to repeatedly bring up the alert in Mail... However, on 3 other machines, the alert would no longer show once I clicked Run Service. After a few times in Mail, the alert is no longer appearing. Looks like all is okay now, but for a while there, I felt like I was running Windows. K On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Nathan Sims newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: You're saying this happens _every time_ or just the first time you try to utilize a specific 'restricted service'? when doing a SEARCH on SELECTED TEXT in any app other than Safari on my iMac 27 (downloaded after release) ... but on my iMac 24 (running the GM), the alert doesn't appear - same build number same settings on Security anything else I need to check? On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: I selected some text in Mail and launched a Search Yahoo via the contextual menu. I got the following alert. Same happens with TextEdit and I expect any other app other than Safari. confirmService.png There must be a way to turn this this off, no? I can't stand seeing this alert and having to click Run Service every time I want to run a search on Yahoo. What is selecting text in a document to search on a restricted service ? K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Mountain Lion Mail alert: Confirm Service
Are you maybe an admin user on the iMac 24 and not on the iMac 27? On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Nathan Sims newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: You're saying this happens _every time_ or just the first time you try to utilize a specific 'restricted service'? when doing a SEARCH on SELECTED TEXT in any app other than Safari on my iMac 27 (downloaded after release) ... but on my iMac 24 (running the GM), the alert doesn't appear - same build number same settings on Security anything else I need to check? On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: I selected some text in Mail and launched a Search Yahoo via the contextual menu. I got the following alert. Same happens with TextEdit and I expect any other app other than Safari. confirmService.png There must be a way to turn this this off, no? I can't stand seeing this alert and having to click Run Service every time I want to run a search on Yahoo. What is selecting text in a document to search on a restricted service ? K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB Lion thumb drive
On Jul 7, 2012, at 11:18, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: As for burning to DVD and booting off the optical, the optical drive has not worked consistently for at least a year. Never got the thumb drives to wok. Used FTDM and installed off the mini. SSD is working well. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
USB Lion thumb drive
I have a 8GB USB thumb drive that I have used several times to boot my MacPro1,1 which has the Lion Installer image on it. When I try to boot my MacBookPro off the same USB stick, it starts to boot (Apple logo and spinny circle) for about 30 seconds, then I get the 'do not' circle (still with the spinny circle under it). -- 'We get that in here some nights, when someone's had a few. Cosmic speculation about whether the gods exist. Next thing, there's a bolt of lightning through the door with a note wrapped round it saying, Yes, we do and a pair of sandals with smoke coming out.' (Small Gods) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB Lion thumb drive
The MBP is lion capable, right? You can always copy the installer image to the MBP and runt it from there. neil The three kinds of stress…nuclear, cooking and ahole. Jello is the key to the relationship. On 2012-07-07, at 2:51, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: I have a 8GB USB thumb drive that I have used several times to boot my MacPro1,1 which has the Lion Installer image on it. When I try to boot my MacBookPro off the same USB stick, it starts to boot (Apple logo and spinny circle) for about 30 seconds, then I get the 'do not' circle (still with the spinny circle under it). -- 'We get that in here some nights, when someone's had a few. Cosmic speculation about whether the gods exist. Next thing, there's a bolt of lightning through the door with a note wrapped round it saying, Yes, we do and a pair of sandals with smoke coming out.' (Small Gods) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB Lion thumb drive
On Jul 6, 2012, at 11:51 PM, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: I have a 8GB USB thumb drive that I have used several times to boot my MacPro1,1 which has the Lion Installer image on it. When I try to boot my MacBookPro off the same USB stick, it starts to boot (Apple logo and spinny circle) for about 30 seconds, then I get the 'do not' circle (still with the spinny circle under it). Possibly stupid question: did this MBP ship with Lion? If so then it needs either a special build of Lion, or possibly a later (general) revision of MacOS X than is on your USB drive.___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: iCloud mail down when sent via Mail on Lion
on 2012-06-07 10:45 Kevin Callahan wrote As of midday yesterday, I stopped receiving email via Mail app on my computers. My iPhone and iPad are fine, as is mail via iCloud/Safari on my computers. I believe it must be something on Apple's end (perhaps a port issue). https://discussions.apple.com/message/18583358#18583358 Wondering if other mac.com or me.com users are seeing problems right now as well. i am receiving to (and sending from) a mac.com address using Mail.app on 10.7; this is my secondary iCloud account so i have it set up for IMAP as what Mail calls MobileMe IMAP retrieving from imap.mail.me.com i wasn't attending the computer most of yesterday, but late last night it was certainly working ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Low-contrast scans in Lion
Thinking outside the digital box, is it just possible the fluorescent tube in the scan bar is showing its age? If you still have an older Mac hanging around, hook it up and see if you get the same crappy results you get on your new one. On Jun 2, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Hacker Scot wrote: I have an Epson Perfection 1250 scanner that used to work fine. Haven't hooked it up for a long time, but just connected it to a Lion machine and its scans of photos are coming out *very* low-contrast. Don't see any settings in Image Capture that have any effect on this, and am thinking it must be a driver difference. Epson doesn't offer an updated driver for Lion. Has anyone experienced this or have any advice? -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Faxing on SL or Lion?
Is there a way to send a Fax out directly from within OSX (Snow Leopard or Lion)? Since there's no phone jack on iMacs or MacBooks I don't see how Faxes can be supported directly. I do notice there is Fax s/w that uploads your pages to a remote site, and from there it sends them out as faxes, but I'd rather not have sensitive info lying around in unknown places... ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Faxing on SL or Lion?
On 30 May 2012, at 2:50 PM, Nathan Sims wrote: Is there a way to send a Fax out directly from within OSX (Snow Leopard or Lion)? Since there's no phone jack on iMacs or MacBooks I don't see how Faxes can be supported directly. I do notice there is Fax s/w that uploads your pages to a remote site, and from there it sends them out as faxes, but I'd rather not have sensitive info lying around in unknown places... I recently asked about a USB fax modem that, unlike Apple's own USB modem, would work with Lion. Someone suggested the Zoom 3095 USB mini-modem. I bought one and it works fine for me under Lion, at least for sending and receiving faxes. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Faxing on SL or Lion?
On May 30, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [E] wrote: On 30 May 2012, at 2:50 PM, Nathan Sims wrote: Is there a way to send a Fax out directly from within OSX (Snow Leopard or Lion)? Since there's no phone jack on iMacs or MacBooks I don't see how Faxes can be supported directly. I do notice there is Fax s/w that uploads your pages to a remote site, and from there it sends them out as faxes, but I'd rather not have sensitive info lying around in unknown places... I recently asked about a USB fax modem that, unlike Apple's own USB modem, would work with Lion. Someone suggested the Zoom 3095 USB mini-modem. I bought one and it works fine for me under Lion, at least for sending and receiving faxes. Thanks Gregg. That unit looks just about perfect... - Nate ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Faxing on SL or Lion?
On May 30, 2012, at 12:50, Nathan Sims newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Is there a way to send a Fax out directly from within OSX (Snow Leopard or Lion)? Yes. It's part of the print services if you have a fax modem connected (or a multi function printer that does faxing and the right drivers). ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, LuKreme wrote: } On Apr 28, 2012, at 20:29, Vince LaMonica v...@cullasaja.com wrote: } } Sad as it may be, there are many businesses which still operate with faxes and many industries which aren't moving away from it any time soon. } } I've found the secret to dealing with those is simply saying, it's } impossible for me to fax. I don't have a fax or a phone line. Trust me, I've tried. It's been a 'pick your poison' type of thing - would I rather e.mail unencrypted sensitive business information [because they don't do encryption and i refuse to accept things that are easily hackable like password-protected zip files, PDFs, etc], or FAX the info. And finding an entire industry [or four] that is like this means going to a competitor doesn't help - nobody has decided to use technology in a way that benefits their customers; their websites remain late '90s looking, yet their sales continue to increase, so why bother adapting change/improvements, since things are working for them as is. Honestly, it is hard to argue with that, business-wise, but customer-satisfaction wise, I complain every chance I get. I would like to know if there are any modems that are supported in Lion [eg: 3rd party that includes Lion drivers]. There are situations when dial up is needed and my VMware Fusion 4.1 solution can't live on forever [my laptop runs 10.7, but i have 10.6 installed via the whoops version of Fusion that accidentally allowed non-server editions of Mac OS X to be installed; i also run CS5 on there and other apps, since 10.7 and CS5 don't get along well; i'm not the usual user though - most of my time is spent in front of a desktop system, not a laptop, and my desktop[s] remain on 10.6 [with fusion 4.1 running 10.7 and 10.8, as i also develop iOS/Mac OS X software]]. /vjl/ ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On 29 Apr 2012, at 10:51 , LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: On Apr 28, 2012, at 20:29, Vince LaMonica v...@cullasaja.com wrote: Sad as it may be, there are many businesses which still operate with faxes and many industries which aren't moving away from it any time soon. I've found the secret to dealing with those is simply saying, it's impossible for me to fax. I don't have a fax or a phone line. Try that with some people, in particular certain government people or certain educational people who must live by government rules, and you'll find that your alternatives boil down to: 1 hand-carrying the document to them 2 never doing business with them For example, Palm Beach State College, the local community college in Palm Beach County WILL NOT ACCEPT certain documents by email. It's fax or original hard copy, your choice. They site a regulation laid down by the State of Florida. I don't know if other institutions in Florida use that interpretation. I do know that I cannot email my end-of-term workbooks, with student grades, to them. If I want to continue to get paid I gotta follow _their_ rules. Amazingly, email then becomes an option, or I go through one of the many online fax services, but it's been a few years since I had to do that. Even dealing with government agencies this has worked. Not around here. Government simply will not budge. Fax or original hard copy, nothing else is acceptable. The funny story was a few years ago somone saying a fax was a legal requirement because they had to have an 'original signature'. The usual reason around here is 'I said so. You want to get paid, do it my way.' ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
So far as I know the Zoom USB modems still work in Lion. But I'm not certain, as I use the fax section of the printer, and I know that that works. On 29 Apr 2012, at 12:31 , Vince LaMonica v...@cullasaja.com wrote: On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, LuKreme wrote: } On Apr 28, 2012, at 20:29, Vince LaMonica v...@cullasaja.com wrote: } } Sad as it may be, there are many businesses which still operate with faxes and many industries which aren't moving away from it any time soon. } } I've found the secret to dealing with those is simply saying, it's } impossible for me to fax. I don't have a fax or a phone line. Trust me, I've tried. It's been a 'pick your poison' type of thing - would I rather e.mail unencrypted sensitive business information [because they don't do encryption and i refuse to accept things that are easily hackable like password-protected zip files, PDFs, etc], or FAX the info. And finding an entire industry [or four] that is like this means going to a competitor doesn't help - nobody has decided to use technology in a way that benefits their customers; their websites remain late '90s looking, yet their sales continue to increase, so why bother adapting change/improvements, since things are working for them as is. Honestly, it is hard to argue with that, business-wise, but customer-satisfaction wise, I complain every chance I get. I would like to know if there are any modems that are supported in Lion [eg: 3rd party that includes Lion drivers]. There are situations when dial up is needed and my VMware Fusion 4.1 solution can't live on forever [my laptop runs 10.7, but i have 10.6 installed via the whoops version of Fusion that accidentally allowed non-server editions of Mac OS X to be installed; i also run CS5 on there and other apps, since 10.7 and CS5 don't get along well; i'm not the usual user though - most of my time is spent in front of a desktop system, not a laptop, and my desktop[s] remain on 10.6 [with fusion 4.1 running 10.7 and 10.8, as i also develop iOS/Mac OS X software]]. /vjl/ ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
I use a USB Zoom modem to send faxes to the hospital, which doesn't accept e-mail. When it is plugged in the printer setup routine accepts it. -- Bill Ehrich MacBook 6,1 OSX 10.7.3 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On 29 avr. 2012, at 19:23, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [E] wrote: Thank you and others for the suggestion to look at third-party modems. I googled and found that there are a few non-Apple modems that seem to work with Lion: Zoom, US Robotics and BestData. I found the Zoom 3095 at Amazon for $45, so I will probably go ahead and order one of those. Free in France, not exactly at the cutting edge of technology, offers a fax service that seems to work world-wide -- you feed it a PDF and it sends it off as a fax. As with all faxes, you can forge the signature and anything else you feel like forging, providing your correspondents with the security they so witlessly demand. AB___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Vince LaMonica wrote: Trust me, I've tried. It's been a 'pick your poison' type of thing - would I rather e.mail unencrypted sensitive business information [because they don't do encryption and i refuse to accept things that are easily hackable like password-protected zip files, PDFs, etc] I routinely used password-protected PDFs for sensitive information and am unaware that they are easily hackable. Can you cite a reference? -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Macs R We wrote: } I routinely used password-protected PDFs for sensitive information and am unaware that they are easily hackable. Can you cite a reference? There are many hacks for it, but this is legit commercial software which will open password-protected PDFs w/o an issue: http://elcomsoft.com/apdfpr.html [standard edition only gives access to password-protected features like copy/print/etc; the $99 version allows one to open a PDF that can't be opened w/o a password]. There are also websites where one can upload a password-protected PDF, and get back a non-password protected copy. PDF security is an illusion, unfortunately. /vjl/ ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
Hi Charles, Thanks for confirming. I was afraid it was gone, but I thought it was worth asking. Was there some big overhead to continue supporting their own modem? I sure don't get a lot of faxes these days, but it seemed nice to have the capability of sending or receiving if necessary. Gregg On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Charles Dyer wrote: It's dead, Jim. Apple's old USB modem no longer works with Lion. It's gone. History. Finished. A paperweight. Anyone who can make one work let me know, I have one. On 27 Apr 2012, at 16:58 , Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [E] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: Hi, I have an Apple USB modem, which was attached to my Snow Leopard Mac Pro. When I switched to a new Mac Pro running Lion, I connected the modem, but I got an error message when logging in (or booting?) that said it was not supported under Lion. I can't remember if the message suggested that no usb modems were supported or just this specific model. In the system profiler, I see the following message when I click on Modems (under the Network menu): No Apple modem found. If the Modem is external, make sure it’s connected via USB. This message suggests that an Apple USB modem should work. Does anyone know which is true? Should an Apple USB modem work on a new Mac Pro running Lion (10.7.3) or not? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On 28 Apr 2012, at 10:03 , Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [E] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: Hi Charles, Thanks for confirming. I was afraid it was gone, but I thought it was worth asking. Was there some big overhead to continue supporting their own modem? No idea. However, it's possible that Apple merely thinks that faxing is an outmoded technology which no-one cares about. Note that the print option under System Preferences is no longer Print Fax, but is rather Print Scan instead. I suspect that they simply don't care. I sure don't get a lot of faxes these days, but it seemed nice to have the capability of sending or receiving if necessary. I fax using my Brother MFD. That works. Gregg On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Charles Dyer wrote: It's dead, Jim. Apple's old USB modem no longer works with Lion. It's gone. History. Finished. A paperweight. Anyone who can make one work let me know, I have one. On 27 Apr 2012, at 16:58 , Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [E] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: Hi, I have an Apple USB modem, which was attached to my Snow Leopard Mac Pro. When I switched to a new Mac Pro running Lion, I connected the modem, but I got an error message when logging in (or booting?) that said it was not supported under Lion. I can't remember if the message suggested that no usb modems were supported or just this specific model. In the system profiler, I see the following message when I click on Modems (under the Network menu): No Apple modem found. If the Modem is external, make sure it’s connected via USB. This message suggests that an Apple USB modem should work. Does anyone know which is true? Should an Apple USB modem work on a new Mac Pro running Lion (10.7.3) or not? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
Charles Dyer spake on Saturday 28-Apr-2012@14:38:37 On 28 Apr 2012, at 10:03 , Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [E] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: Hi Charles, Thanks for confirming. I was afraid it was gone, but I thought it was worth asking. Was there some big overhead to continue supporting their own modem? No idea. However, it's possible that Apple merely thinks that faxing is an outmoded technology which no-one cares about. Note that the print option under System Preferences is no longer Print Fax, but is rather Print Scan instead. I suspect that they simply don't care. And I agree. After 166 years, it's time for this technology to die. There is absolutely no need for it anymore. I sure don't get a lot of faxes these days, but it seemed nice to have the capability of sending or receiving if necessary. I fax using my Brother MFD. That works. The last time I needed to fax I did it via the Internet. My printer DOES support faxing, but I don't have a landline, so not so useful. If people say they want a fax now a days I laugh at them and say, No, seriously. Even the banks, Mortgage lenders, and doctor's seem to have figured out that a significant percentage of their customer have no way to fax anything. I have friends who have not had land lines since they moved out of their parents houses 10 years ago, and you can't fax from a mobile phone (or from Vonage either). -- 'Dojo! What is Rule One?' Even the cowering challenger mumbled along to the chorus: 'Do not act incautiously when confronting little bald wrinkly smiling men!' ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:17 PM, LuKreme wrote: The last time I needed to fax I did it via the Internet. My printer DOES support faxing, but I don't have a landline, so not so useful. If people say they want a fax now a days I laugh at them and say, No, seriously. Even the banks, Mortgage lenders, and doctor's seem to have figured out that a significant percentage of their customer have no way to fax anything. This is more for the benefit of everyone else: faxzero.com . They also have an OS X widget available. They tack some spam ad on the cover page and you can fax at no cost to you. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:17 PM, LuKreme wrote: I have friends who have not had land lines since they moved out of their parents houses 10 years ago, and you can't fax from a mobile phone (or from Vonage either). Sad as it may be, there are many businesses which still operate with faxes and many industries which aren't moving away from it any time soon. I use my Apple USB Fax quite often [one of many reasons Snow Leopard is staying installed!]. But technically, you can fax from mobile phones. I used to do it ages ago well before smart phones became popular [eg: before the Treo]. Granted, the faxes were 100% generated on the phone, but if one needed to fax a piece of paper, well, I did it with my Palm III and modem way back when [and 128kb Sharp organizer with fax/modem attachment]. Yeah, faxing was more popular then, but still. It was doable with phones. I guess these days, fax apps for iPhones require a fax-internet gateway account. It will be nice when companies move away from faxing, but seeing as many aren't, it is still a useful technology for people. It's a shame Apple decided to not include drivers for their fax-modem [and there are still parts of the US which don't have broadband - modems are required for those folks [i live near several of those places!], so if someone needs to replace their aging Mac, they will be in for a rough surprise - no internet access for them! :( ]. /vjl/___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On Apr 28, 2012, at 7:17 PM, LuKreme wrote: I have friends who have not had land lines since they moved out of their parents houses 10 years ago, and you can't fax from a mobile phone Not really true. I do. It's a somewhat dumb flip-phone, but it knows how to be a modem/fax when hung off a USB cable. So did my previous somewhat dumb flip-phone. -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: USB modem and Lion
On Apr 28, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Vince LaMonica wrote: It's a shame Apple decided to not include drivers for their fax-modem [and there are still parts of the US which don't have broadband - modems are required for those folks [i live near several of those places!], so if someone needs to replace their aging Mac, they will be in for a rough surprise - no internet access for them! :( ]. Unless they can score an original UFO Airport Base Station, which will still be able to dial a dial-up connection. :-D -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
USB modem and Lion
Hi, I have an Apple USB modem, which was attached to my Snow Leopard Mac Pro. When I switched to a new Mac Pro running Lion, I connected the modem, but I got an error message when logging in (or booting?) that said it was not supported under Lion. I can't remember if the message suggested that no usb modems were supported or just this specific model. In the system profiler, I see the following message when I click on Modems (under the Network menu): No Apple modem found. If the Modem is external, make sure it’s connected via USB. This message suggests that an Apple USB modem should work. Does anyone know which is true? Should an Apple USB modem work on a new Mac Pro running Lion (10.7.3) or not? Thanks, Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion compatible portable printer
On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Daniel Israel wrote: I have need of a portable printer (black/white would do the job, color not necessary) for use with my late model MBP running OSX Lion. Another vote for the Canon iP100. I've used one for years on the road and it is a great little printer. Works fine with Lion.___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion compatible portable printer
Dunno about Canon, but I set up a friend's HP OfficeJet H470 mobile printer and it worked quite well. The newer model is the OfficeJet 100. Drivers get automatically downloaded when adding the printer. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Officejet-100-Mobile-Printer/dp/B004TGHIS8 http://www.amazon.com/HP-OfficeJet-H470-Mobile-Printer/dp/B0010Z3KZG -Nate On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Daniel Israel wrote: I have need of a portable printer (black/white would do the job, color not necessary) for use with my late model MBP running OSX Lion. Any recommendations on one that works well with Lion? (Something that I could easily plug in and print, then unplug it) My friend recommends Canon, but he's running Windows and I don't know how well Lion works with Canon printers (how good the drivers are). ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion compatible portable printer
I'm currently a canon service tech by day, and have generally don't have trouble with any Canon BubbleJet printer. The Canon iP 100 works well on Macs. If it was AirPrint capable it would be better. Peter Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2012, at 9:39 AM, Nathan Sims newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Dunno about Canon, but I set up a friend's HP OfficeJet H470 mobile printer and it worked quite well. The newer model is the OfficeJet 100. Drivers get automatically downloaded when adding the printer. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Officejet-100-Mobile-Printer/dp/B004TGHIS8 http://www.amazon.com/HP-OfficeJet-H470-Mobile-Printer/dp/B0010Z3KZG -Nate On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Daniel Israel wrote: I have need of a portable printer (black/white would do the job, color not necessary) for use with my late model MBP running OSX Lion. Any recommendations on one that works well with Lion? (Something that I could easily plug in and print, then unplug it) My friend recommends Canon, but he's running Windows and I don't know how well Lion works with Canon printers (how good the drivers are). ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Server vs Lion
On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:57 PM,2/19, LuKreme wrote: On Feb 18, 2012, at 18:51, Neil Laubenthal n...@laubenthal.net wrote: Disabled doesn't mean done though According to Apple it does. Your info will even go back to saying OS X instead of OS X Server. Apple does have a KB article that tells you how to disable Lion Server. However; when you run the downloaded Server application it downloads and installs some more stuff on first run . . .so disabling Server per the KB won't uninstall whatever the Server app added. The fact that it goes back to saying OS X after you disable the server services doesn't mean you're back to a standard Lion installation. --- There are only three kinds of stress; your basic nuclear stress, cooking stress, and A$$hole stress. The key to their relationship is Jello. neil ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Server vs Lion
As well as keeps a boatload of services loaded via launchd, whether or not they significantly impact the system is unknown to me. -- Bruce Carter, Senior Systems Engineer University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 On 2/18/12 8:51 PM, Neil Laubenthal n...@laubenthal.net wrote: Disabled doesn't mean done though, at first run it downloads and installs a bunch more stuff. On 2012-02-18, at 13:42, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: It is very easy to back out of in Lion. Simply turn of all the services in the server app, make sure the ³Dedicate resources for Server tasks² is off, and quit the app. You might have to reboot. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Server vs Lion
On Feb 18, 2012, at 18:51, Neil Laubenthal n...@laubenthal.net wrote: Disabled doesn't mean done though According to Apple it does. Your info will even go back to saying OS X instead of OS X Server. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Server vs Lion
Hi Neil, Don't be confused by the it's just an app look of Mac OS X Lion Server. The app is only a front-end to the install process and I would guess it is *not* easy to back out of. I would suggest a clone of your Mac on a Firewire drive so you can boot from it and play around before you go all out. Congratulations and all the best with the retirement thing - not sure I'll ever get there. Cheers, Ashley. On 17/02/2012, at 8:32 PM, Neil Laubenthal wrote: On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:44 AM,2/17, Ashley Aitken wrote: Hi Neil, Firstly, I am not an expert on Lion Server - I have never used it although I have read about it and in the short term will probably install it on one of our Lion machines to check it out further. Two things though: 1. Lion Server when released was not really ready for prime time. 2. Mac OS X Server in the past has not been very amenable to changing the IP address. Generally speaking I think a server is not meant to be used in situations when the IP address will be changing regularly, for example, as you travel in your RV. Of course, extra hardware can help with these problems. For example, if you had a modem/router that worked with USB 3G, and put the server on a static private IP address. Hi Ashley, thanks for the input. I will troll through Apple's boards for additional guidance. Like you . . .I've considered just playing with it awhile and seeing if it works or not . . .I'll probably end up doing that and either keeping a clone of the file server in case I decide to revert or else just run it in Parallels Desktop VM for testing purposes. Since it's just an app instead of a full blown server install and since Apple has a KB article on how to disable it . . .it's probably a bit easier to back out of then SL server was. The server will keep the same IP always anyway . . .we'll be using a WiFi Ranger for our router/firewall. This is similar to an Airport except instead of only having a single incoming WAN port (for the cable modem or FIOS modem) it's got both incoming wifi for using campground wifi as well as 3G air card input and satellite internet input; we'll have a choice of 3 incoming WAN ports which can be configured. On the LAN side the WiFi Ranger provides NAT and DHCP like an Airport does and everything inside will either have a static IP (file server) or a MAC address reserved DHCP but quasi-static IP . . .like you I found that SL server really didn't like it's IP changing much. I may also end up just keeping the setup the way I have it now . . .as I said it works but I occasionally have permissions problems on newly created folders or files on the share. I could get around this by either using Guest access instead of a particular user or else making the sharing user an admin user . . .but either of those bothers my former Windows sysadmin and IT security guy hat despite the relatively low insecurity either causes with an encrypted wifi and border firewall/router in place. Since I already have both Parallels and a developer membership it won't cost me anything to try things out other than a little time . . .and us retired folk have plenty of that; albeit not nearly as much as non-retired folks think we have and not nearly as much as I thought we would have. We're finding that this retirement stuff is pretty busy. --- There are only three kinds of stress; your basic nuclear stress, cooking stress, and A$$hole stress. The key to their relationship is Jello. neil -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Server vs Lion
On 18 Feb 2012, at 09:56 , Ashley Aitken wrote: Don't be confused by the it's just an app look of Mac OS X Lion Server. The app is only a front-end to the install process and I would guess it is *not* easy to back out of. It is very easy to back out of in Lion. Simply turn of all the services in the server app, make sure the “Dedicate resources for Server tasks” is off, and quit the app. You might have to reboot. Done. -- oh no! there's been unauthorized access to my paypal account!!! ... how nice of someone at a grade school in korea to notice and inform me of it ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Server vs Lion
On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:44 AM,2/17, Ashley Aitken wrote: Hi Neil, Firstly, I am not an expert on Lion Server - I have never used it although I have read about it and in the short term will probably install it on one of our Lion machines to check it out further. Two things though: 1. Lion Server when released was not really ready for prime time. 2. Mac OS X Server in the past has not been very amenable to changing the IP address. Generally speaking I think a server is not meant to be used in situations when the IP address will be changing regularly, for example, as you travel in your RV. Of course, extra hardware can help with these problems. For example, if you had a modem/router that worked with USB 3G, and put the server on a static private IP address. Hi Ashley, thanks for the input. I will troll through Apple's boards for additional guidance. Like you . . .I've considered just playing with it awhile and seeing if it works or not . . .I'll probably end up doing that and either keeping a clone of the file server in case I decide to revert or else just run it in Parallels Desktop VM for testing purposes. Since it's just an app instead of a full blown server install and since Apple has a KB article on how to disable it . . .it's probably a bit easier to back out of then SL server was. The server will keep the same IP always anyway . . .we'll be using a WiFi Ranger for our router/firewall. This is similar to an Airport except instead of only having a single incoming WAN port (for the cable modem or FIOS modem) it's got both incoming wifi for using campground wifi as well as 3G air card input and satellite internet input; we'll have a choice of 3 incoming WAN ports which can be configured. On the LAN side the WiFi Ranger provides NAT and DHCP like an Airport does and everything inside will either have a static IP (file server) or a MAC address reserved DHCP but quasi-static IP . . .like you I found that SL server really didn't like it's IP changing much. I may also end up just keeping the setup the way I have it now . . .as I said it works but I occasionally have permissions problems on newly created folders or files on the share. I could get around this by either using Guest access instead of a particular user or else making the sharing user an admin user . . .but either of those bothers my former Windows sysadmin and IT security guy hat despite the relatively low insecurity either causes with an encrypted wifi and border firewall/router in place. Since I already have both Parallels and a developer membership it won't cost me anything to try things out other than a little time . . .and us retired folk have plenty of that; albeit not nearly as much as non-retired folks think we have and not nearly as much as I thought we would have. We're finding that this retirement stuff is pretty busy. --- There are only three kinds of stress; your basic nuclear stress, cooking stress, and A$$hole stress. The key to their relationship is Jello. neil ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Mail
On 16 Feb 2012, at 23:08 , Kevin Callahan wrote: He and his wife share the same USER account on their iMac, but they each have their own separate MobileMe (now iCloud) accounts. Simplest solution is to not share a user account. Especially since there can only be one primary iCloud account per user account (You can add more, but any after the first have far less options). I've suggested they either check the FROM popup each time when replying, or they set up individual user accounts on the their computer to keep their email separate. Anybody know how Mail determines what address to use when replying if you have several accounts and if you receive an email with some or all of those accounts in the recipient list? I used to be the default was which account is being used. If user 1 read the email in the user2 account, it would reply as user2. However, under lion it is the first address listed in the To: header that is the default. This email header: To: krem...@kreme.com, kr...@kreme.com the reply from address is my list email regardless of if I reply from the email in my list account or the one in my personal account. -- BUGS: There is no conversion specification for the phase of the moon. strftime(3) man page ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Mail
On 17 Feb 2012, at 00:29 , Kevin Callahan wrote: But again, my friends just sent me screenshots proving this to not be the case under Lion. Very odd. I just tested it on my system. I can’t EXACTLY duplicate it because I don’t have two iCloud accounts configured, but I tested it with both orders for two email addresses and it picked the first one. -- 'And I promise you this,' he [Carrot] shouted, 'if we succeed, no-one will remember. And if we fail, no one will forget!' ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Lion Mail
If you have multiple accounts in Lion Mail and if you receive an email that has more than one of those accounts in the recipient list, what's the algorithm Lion Mail uses to determine which email address will be used when replying? Sure, you can choose from the FROM: popup, but Mail will automatically choose an address. I think in the past (Leopard, SL?), it would choose the FIRST email account in the recipient list of the incoming email. But I'm not sure that is true anymore. I can't test it because I have just one account. I'm trying to help a friend solve a problem: He and his wife share the same USER account on their iMac, but they each have their own separate MobileMe (now iCloud) accounts. If an incoming email is addressed to both of them, and when they reply, they often end up using the other person's email address in the reply. They haven't gotten in the habit of checking the FROM address nor selecting an address from the FROM popup. I've suggested they either check the FROM popup each time when replying, or they set up individual user accounts on the their computer to keep their email separate. Anybody know how Mail determines what address to use when replying if you have several accounts and if you receive an email with some or all of those accounts in the recipient list? Thanks, Kevin ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion Server vs Lion
Hi Neil, Firstly, I am not an expert on Lion Server - I have never used it although I have read about it and in the short term will probably install it on one of our Lion machines to check it out further. Two things though: 1. Lion Server when released was not really ready for prime time. Some of the problems may have been fixed but it's definitely a very different beast from Snow Leopard Server. In particular, it takes the Apple simplified route to configuration (e.g. TimeMachine). 2. Mac OS X Server in the past has not been very amenable to changing the IP address. It used to require wizardry, then Apple made a command to help, now I am not sure in Lion Server. Generally speaking I think a server is not meant to be used in situations when the IP address will be changing regularly, for example, as you travel in your RV. Finally, again from my knowledge of Snow Leopard Server, there was no Internet Sharing in server. It was not possible (at least not easy) to share an Ethernet connection over Airport etc. Of course, extra hardware can help with these problems. For example, if you had a modem/router that worked with USB 3G, and put the server on a static private IP address. Hope that helps and I recommend you browse through Apple's OX X Server Discussion Boards before making any major decision. Cheers, Ashley. On 17/02/2012, at 4:49 AM, Neil Laubenthal wrote: Before I start mucking about with Lion Server instead of Lion on my home file server . . .I wonder if somebody can answer a couple of questions. We're getting ready to move into an RV full time and will have internet access only when parked in a campground somewhere. I'm looking at Lion Server to solve one issue I have with my current file server running Lion (noted below). Don't need Open Directory or mobile homedirectories . . .although if I can easily convert our laptops over to these that would be acceptable. Don't need mail or web or any of the other services that Server provides either. My biggest issue is with permissions on shared files. We have a shared folder on a Lion server which gets mounted by both our laptops and almost all data files live there except those that have to live in ~/ on our laptops like DropBox data, Mail data, etc. Rather than just enable Guest access to the file server (that grates on my IT security brain even though the server is inside my router/firewall and we have WPA2 encryption on the wireless to the laptops. . . .I have a user/password on the server that is used on both laptops to mount the shared folder for storing files. Despite this . . .on occasion a folder gets created or a file gets created that only the originally creating laptop can edit but not the other one. Not much of an issue normally; a trip via Screen Sharing to the server and resetting the permissions on the shared folder followed by an unmount/remount of the shared folder on the laptops fixes it . . .but it's a pain. Will Server solve this issue for me or is this something I either need to just live with or turn on Guest access to the file server? How picky is Lion Server about internet connectivity or does it depend on what features are being used? While we're in the RV we'll have full time internet access via either wifi to the campground or via 3G air card to our router . . .but when moving between campgrounds connectivity will be unavailable. Since we'll only be using file sharing and possibly OD/portable home directories I wouldn't think that it will really care if connectivity is gone but one never knows for sure. The Lion Server will actually probably be off when we move anyway but it's possible it might be on but with no connectivity . . .although if the server is running the local LAN will be as well so it will have network connectivity but not internet connectivity. I've also considered whether to upgrade to OD and shared home directories . . .if I set this up do I need to create new user accounts for my wife and I on the Lion Server and then convert our existing user account names on our laptops over to mobile home directories? I can obviously create the same user names we have on the laptops in OD . . .but will Lion on the laptops be smart enough to convert the existing laptop homes into portable homes that sync to the Lion Server as well? How efficiently does portable home syncing work? We very rarely log out of our laptops . . .they just get put to sleep until later . . .does syncing work efficiently in the background or does it only sync at login/logout? If the latter it seems like the login/out process would take a long time to check all the files in the home directory. If it's real time background syncing . . .how much of a drag on local wireless LAN performance is it as far as impacting normal browsing, video streaming, etc? If you start at home with your synced portable home, put the laptop
Re: Lion Mail
I'm thinking the confusion starts from a false premise. If you have multiple email addresses, you are going to get multiple copies of the message. The external world doesn't realize that two addresses are going to go to the same endpoint, so nobody combines the messages into one. You will be reading only one of these copies (at a time), and if you reply to it, it will use whatever account that one went to. On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: If you have multiple accounts in Lion Mail and if you receive an email that has more than one of those accounts in the recipient list, what's the algorithm Lion Mail uses to determine which email address will be used when replying? Sure, you can choose from the FROM: popup, but Mail will automatically choose an address. I think in the past (Leopard, SL?), it would choose the FIRST email account in the recipient list of the incoming email. But I'm not sure that is true anymore. I can't test it because I have just one account. I'm trying to help a friend solve a problem: He and his wife share the same USER account on their iMac, but they each have their own separate MobileMe (now iCloud) accounts. If an incoming email is addressed to both of them, and when they reply, they often end up using the other person's email address in the reply. They haven't gotten in the habit of checking the FROM address nor selecting an address from the FROM popup. I've suggested they either check the FROM popup each time when replying, or they set up individual user accounts on the their computer to keep their email separate. Anybody know how Mail determines what address to use when replying if you have several accounts and if you receive an email with some or all of those accounts in the recipient list? Thanks, Kevin ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
On 2012-01-06, Rudolf O. Durrer r.o.dur...@durrer.org wrote: It was a download I did to my MBP and the saved it to an external HD. But this did not seem to be universal, at least not in that sense that it loads to any machine. It installed easily on MBP, but not on the Mini Strange. Especially as mine did function universally. I wonder if there was something else about the Mini that cause it to not function. With a non-universal installer, I can understand the annoyance caused by the update you experienced. -- arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu pgp b2c9d448 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
Well, not sure if I catched all you wrote (at least I got the one with the chickens :-) Do you mean, I have to stay on my compter during the whole process of downloading? Additional info: a few month ago, I downloaded Lion for my MBP, which was done quite easily. I still have a copy of this installation around on a external HD, but this one does not load on my new mini... BTW, I tried relaunching, but with no avail... Rudolf Am 05.01.2012 um 06.23 schrieb Macs R We: Ha ha! Lion broke into your chicken coop, ate all your chickens WITHOUT ASKING, and then left before you could scold it. Seriously, this seems to be the new paradigm for App Store OS installations -- one click and you've implicitly agreed to everything. And they are self-deleting. You either have to catch the download at the right point in the process to extract the heart of gold for later use, or you have to re-launch the App Store with control (or is it option?) held down, whereupon it will allow you to re-download the Lion you've already bought. I don't remember exactly, but if you Google it you should find this process described in a lot of places. On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Rudolf O.Durrer wrote: Hi I have downloaded Lion from App store tonight, leaving the Mini alone doing the job because App Store says download will take about 3 1/2 hours. When returning, the Appstore window shows Lion as installed, in the Software update preference pane, a new entry is showing an update from today named Mac OS X, but I can't find Lion anywhere, even not in the invisible folders.snip...snip...snip ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
No, you don't. The App Store just downloads the installer app to Applications. Once it is done,make a copy of the installer app somewhere as it deletes itself afterward. Run the app to do the install . . .as always make sure you have a backup just in case before upgrading. neil The three kinds of stress…nuclear, cooking and ahole. Jello is the key to the relationship. On 2012-01-05, at 6:52, Rudolf O. Durrer r.o.dur...@durrer.org wrote: Well, not sure if I catched all you wrote (at least I got the one with the chickens :-) Do you mean, I have to stay on my compter during the whole process of downloading? Additional info: a few month ago, I downloaded Lion for my MBP, which was done quite easily. I still have a copy of this installation around on a external HD, but this one does not load on my new mini... BTW, I tried relaunching, but with no avail... Rudolf Am 05.01.2012 um 06.23 schrieb Macs R We: Ha ha! Lion broke into your chicken coop, ate all your chickens WITHOUT ASKING, and then left before you could scold it. Seriously, this seems to be the new paradigm for App Store OS installations -- one click and you've implicitly agreed to everything. And they are self-deleting. You either have to catch the download at the right point in the process to extract the heart of gold for later use, or you have to re-launch the App Store with control (or is it option?) held down, whereupon it will allow you to re-download the Lion you've already bought. I don't remember exactly, but if you Google it you should find this process described in a lot of places. On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Rudolf O.Durrer wrote: Hi I have downloaded Lion from App store tonight, leaving the Mini alone doing the job because App Store says download will take about 3 1/2 hours. When returning, the Appstore window shows Lion as installed, in the Software update preference pane, a new entry is showing an update from today named Mac OS X, but I can't find Lion anywhere, even not in the invisible folders.snip...snip...snip ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
On 2012-01-05, Rudolf O.Durrer r.o.dur...@durrer.org wrote: Warning 05.01.12 03.52.05 storeagent 2897 LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -43 for application /Applications/Install Mac OS X Lion.app path (null). Notice05.01.12 04.06.52 ntpd21 time reset +0.183959 s Where is Lion hiding? How do I activate it? As has been said already, the App Store doesn't directly install Lion; it downloads an installer (the same is true for installing and upgrading Xcode). This should be located in your /Applications folder. I think it's also supposed to automatically launch when the download completes. However, note the -43 error and the reference to the Install Mac OS X Lion.app path. -43 is file not found [1]. If you don't see the installer under /Applications it sounds like the download failed, but the App Store thinks it completed. The easiest way to force a new download is to quit the App Store and relaunch it while holding Option and continue to hold Option while pressing install for Lion. Some reports indicate you must hold the key from launch through pressing Install. [2] But, check the /Applications folder first. [1]: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1618 [2]: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/18946/how-can-i-force-the-mac-app-store-to-re-install-an-application -- arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu pgp b2c9d448 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
No, there was no Installer in /Applications, even after several trials as you said. But I think I have found the culprit: on an external USB-HD (named Blackbox), I had stored a copy of the Lion installer for my MBP (which, btw, refused to install on the Mac Mini). The failing trials of new downloads did therefore not store the installer in its proper place but were directed to change the installer on Blackbox. Apple interferes really too much in my storing system (big brother cares too much :-) Anyhow, after disconnecting and the redownloading the whole thing, I succeeded. BTW and for everybodies info: the downloading file appeared in ~Library/Application support/App Store until the end the download, and had only then be moved to /Applications. Well, after endless hours of trials, all is done. Thanks all for the help. Rudolf Am 05.01.2012 um 15.14 schrieb Arno Hautala: On 2012-01-05, Rudolf O.Durrer r.o.dur...@durrer.org wrote: Warning 05.01.12 03.52.05 storeagent 2897 LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -43 for application /Applications/Install Mac OS X Lion.app path (null). Notice 05.01.12 04.06.52 ntpd21 time reset +0.183959 s Where is Lion hiding? How do I activate it? As has been said already, the App Store doesn't directly install Lion; it downloads an installer (the same is true for installing and upgrading Xcode). This should be located in your /Applications folder. I think it's also supposed to automatically launch when the download completes..snip...snip...snip... ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
On 2012-01-05, Rudolf O. Durrer r.o.dur...@durrer.org wrote: The failing trials of new downloads did therefore not store the installer in its proper place but were directed to change the installer on Blackbox. Apple interferes really too much in my storing system (big brother cares too much :-) Heh, I'd forgotten that the Store does this. I actually consider it a feature; it saves me some effort when I update the installer. Glad you figured it out. -- arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu pgp b2c9d448 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
Am 05.01.2012 um 19.54 schrieb Arno Hautala: On 2012-01-05, Rudolf O. Durrer r.o.dur...@durrer.org wrote: The failing trials of new downloads did therefore not store the installer in its proper place but were directed to change the installer on Blackbox. Apple interferes really too much in my storing system (big brother cares too much :-) Heh, I'd forgotten that the Store does this. I actually consider it a feature; it saves me some effort when I update the installer. Glad you figured it out. Well a feature or an annoyance...Now, my installer for MBP is broken, I have again to download it. That takes threee and a half hour again. I would prefer myself to decide where to store it, and it's not up to Apple to decide that. That's called freedom :-) -- The price of freedom is eternal vigilance (Thomas Jefferson, US President) This mail is from: Rudolf O. Durrer IURISTA CONSULT GmbH Legal Counselors Switzerland r.o.dur...@durrer.org iuri...@ch.inter.net ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
On 2012-01-05, Rudolf O. Durrer r.o.dur...@durrer.org wrote: Well a feature or an annoyance...Now, my installer for MBP is broken I bet it's broken, not because you moved the installer, but because one of the downloads failed. The MAS doesn't do deltas. I would prefer myself to decide where to store it, and it's not up to Apple to decide that. That's called freedom :-) I think I'd argue that you did store it where you wanted. Apple just tried to respect that decision and update the installer. For most users, it's a feature. Aside from the failed download, can you explain the downside to this behavior? -- arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu pgp b2c9d448 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Lion download
Hi I have downloaded Lion from App store tonight, leaving the Mini alone doing the job because App Store says download will take about 3 1/2 hours. When returning, the Appstore window shows Lion as installed, in the Software update preference pane, a new entry is showing an update from today named Mac OS X, but I can't find Lion anywhere, even not in the invisible folders. For the relevant time slice, Console shows the following entries: Critical05.01.12 03.49.20 installd4091PackageKit: - Begin install - Warning 05.01.12 03.49.26 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PackageKit.framework/Resources/shove 4101 Cross device symlink found in shove path, including /Volumes/Blackbox Notice 05.01.12 03.52.00 installd4091Installed Mac OS X () Critical05.01.12 03.52.00 installd4091PackageKit: - End install - Error 05.01.12 03.52.02 mDNSResponder 32 PenaltyTimeForServer: PenaltyTime negative -861698, (server penaltyTime -1042511842, timenow -1041650144) resetting the penalty Warning 05.01.12 03.52.03 storeagent 2897CANCEL 2: -[DownloadQueue _notifyClientsAboutDownloadsChange:forSource:] Warning 05.01.12 03.52.05 storeagent 2897LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -43 for application /Applications/Install Mac OS X Lion.app path (null). Notice 05.01.12 04.06.52 ntpd21 time reset +0.183959 s but this is just like chinese language to me... Where is Lion hiding? How do I activate it? Any hints? Rudolf ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion download
Ha ha! Lion broke into your chicken coop, ate all your chickens WITHOUT ASKING, and then left before you could scold it. Seriously, this seems to be the new paradigm for App Store OS installations -- one click and you've implicitly agreed to everything. And they are self-deleting. You either have to catch the download at the right point in the process to extract the heart of gold for later use, or you have to re-launch the App Store with control (or is it option?) held down, whereupon it will allow you to re-download the Lion you've already bought. I don't remember exactly, but if you Google it you should find this process described in a lot of places. On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Rudolf O.Durrer wrote: Hi I have downloaded Lion from App store tonight, leaving the Mini alone doing the job because App Store says download will take about 3 1/2 hours. When returning, the Appstore window shows Lion as installed, in the Software update preference pane, a new entry is showing an update from today named Mac OS X, but I can't find Lion anywhere, even not in the invisible folders. For the relevant time slice, Console shows the following entries: Critical 05.01.12 03.49.20 installd4091PackageKit: - Begin install - Warning 05.01.12 03.49.26 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PackageKit.framework/Resources/shove 4101 Cross device symlink found in shove path, including /Volumes/Blackbox Notice05.01.12 03.52.00 installd4091Installed Mac OS X () Critical 05.01.12 03.52.00 installd4091PackageKit: - End install - Error 05.01.12 03.52.02 mDNSResponder 32 PenaltyTimeForServer: PenaltyTime negative -861698, (server penaltyTime -1042511842, timenow -1041650144) resetting the penalty Warning 05.01.12 03.52.03 storeagent 2897CANCEL 2: -[DownloadQueue _notifyClientsAboutDownloadsChange:forSource:] Warning 05.01.12 03.52.05 storeagent 2897 LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -43 for application /Applications/Install Mac OS X Lion.app path (null). Notice05.01.12 04.06.52 ntpd21 time reset +0.183959 s but this is just like chinese language to me... Where is Lion hiding? How do I activate it? Any hints? Rudolf ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
cell phones Lion
Given that iSync is dead under Lion, is there a way to sync _non-Apple_ cell phones to a Mac running Lion, and if so, is there a list of compatible phones and where can I find this list and any required software to support those phones? I currently have a 'feature' phone which has a near-zero ability to sync. My current cell contract expires in March next year and I'd like to have a short list of possible replacements ready well in advance.___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: cell phones Lion
On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Charles Dyer wrote: Given that iSync is dead under Lion, is there a way to sync _non-Apple_ cell phones to a Mac running Lion, and if so, is there a list of compatible phones and where can I find this list and any required software to support those phones? I currently have a 'feature' phone which has a near-zero ability to sync. My current cell contract expires in March next year and I'd like to have a short list of possible replacements ready well in advance. A company called Mark/Space www.markspace.com makes software that allows a variety of non-Apple smartphones to sync with the Mac. I used it years ago with a Palm phone. -Andy ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Lion Mail - when conversations and related messages are turned ON
Wonder what a good solution might be? If you have conversations and related messages turned ON, and if you are in the middle of reading an email whose contents extends beyond the length of the current window size in Mail, when a new related message comes in, Mail will auto-scroll to the TOP of the message you are reading. This is rather disconcerting as you can be in the middle of reading an email, perhaps 3 pages down, and all of a sudden, you are looking at the header. Thoughts on how Apple might solve this effectively? Is there a preference to keep the message from scrolling to the top of the message simply because a new and related message has arrived in the inbox? -K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Lion restore partition
Yes. neil The three kinds of stress…nuclear, cooking and ahole. Jello is the key to the relationship. On 2011-11-17, at 12:52, William Ehrich ehr...@clear.net wrote: Instead of Lion's internet dependent little recovery partition can I simply use disk utility to 'restore' InstallESD.dmg to a 5GB partition for emergency recovery? -- Bill Ehrich ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: After upgrade to Lion, Safari 5.1 crashes on all sorts of web pages
On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:26 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: all have the same symptoms. It tries multiple times to load and then it says - Safari Can't display this webpage Safari has repeatedly encountered an error while trying to display - URL - - where - URL - is the actual URL that it was trying to open. The address bar shows: file:///Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/ Ah, I've seen THIS symptom myself in Snow Leopard. I have noticed it occurs when my network connection is hosed (often when I have a physical connection but no logical connection -- bogus IP, no DNS, unsatisfied hotspot, etc.) Not the case here. At the same time this happens (and it reliably happens on certain web sites day in and day out in Safari but never at other sites), other services continue to work. Just reaffirmed my original finding. I noticed I had my Airport on unnecessarily, as I was cabled in. After hitting the login button at PayPal, I turned Airport off while I waited for the page to load. IMMEDIATELY, Safari bitched that file://...Resources/ could not be opened because it was a directory. So your failure more may be different, but mine is confirmed. -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: After upgrade to Lion, Safari 5.1 crashes on all sorts of web pages
On Oct 29, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Macs R We wrote: Just reaffirmed my original finding. I noticed I had my Airport on unnecessarily, as I was cabled in. After hitting the login button at PayPal, I turned Airport off while I waited for the page to load. IMMEDIATELY, Safari bitched that file://...Resources/ could not be opened because it was a directory. So, what does your stack dump look like? That is the defining issue. So your failure more may be different, but mine is confirmed. I filed a bug report with apple. They asked for more info. A couple days later they closed it as a duplicate of an existing bug that they are working on. It appears the NVidia GL driver has a bug in it that is getting triggered in Safari, based on the stack dumps. I found the same stack dump as mine through Google with a guy who had an iMac with an NVidia graphics card. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
versioning in Lion
My wife is beating me up here with her frustration using Pages and auto-saving/versioning. She's making a lot of minute changes to a layout but found it frustrating she couldn't go back to her last saved document. Instead, she has to navigate the version history. She also wants Save As... She's not happy with Duplicate - since she can't provide a new name. By default, you get a filename copy. I'm trying to defend Lion here, but failing. We haven't found a way to disable auto-save in Pages. Is there a way to work in Pages (or any graphics program where you tend to make a lot of changes before wanting to save a file) with Snow Leopard-like saving behavior without reinstalling Snow Leopard? Thanks, K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: versioning in Lion
On Oct 26, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: Okay, it looks like cmd-S will bring up the save panel. hmm .. that seems to work only on a COPY that was created via DUPLICATE so it seems you first must DUPLICATE than cmd-S to save with new name K - Kevin http://www.kevincallahan.org/ Sent from iCloud via my iMac 27 On Oct 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: My wife is beating me up here with her frustration using Pages and auto-saving/versioning. She's making a lot of minute changes to a layout but found it frustrating she couldn't go back to her last saved document. Instead, she has to navigate the version history. She also wants Save As... She's not happy with Duplicate - since she can't provide a new name. By default, you get a filename copy. I'm trying to defend Lion here, but failing. We haven't found a way to disable auto-save in Pages. Is there a way to work in Pages (or any graphics program where you tend to make a lot of changes before wanting to save a file) with Snow Leopard-like saving behavior without reinstalling Snow Leopard? Thanks, K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: versioning in Lion
On 27/10/2011, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: My wife is beating me up here with her frustration using Pages and auto-saving/versioning. I can feel the pain for your wife (and I am feeling the pain myself). Lion is a very different way of doing saving/versioning files and I am not sure Apple has got it exactly right yet but I think it is going to be a better way. I am one of the people who always manually versioned files (made a duplicate and then renamed). With Lion, hopefully, this is not going to be necessary any more. She's making a lot of minute changes to a layout but found it frustrating she couldn't go back to her last saved document. Instead, she has to navigate the version history. By last saved version I take it she may mean the last Save a Version not the last version that was saved before she Quit the application the last time she was working on the document. In the future, like iOS, I suspect Mac apps won't even have a Quit menu action. That said, I do think Apple could help here. They should have a way to Revert to last saved version or something like that. What I mean here is to revert to the last explicitly saved version. In the future, I think Apple could even allow one to name saved versions. For example, Version submitted for printing or Version before major changes The Revert to ... menu could then allow you to easily choose one of these named versions. The entire version history would be used for an overview or picking a non-named version. She also wants Save As... She's not happy with Duplicate - since she can't provide a new name. By default, you get a filename copy. As you noted in a later post, the first time you save a duplicate you get the chance to rename it. This could be used for saving explicit (named) versions of the original document but I think that approach moves away from the whole idea of versioning a single documnt in Lion. I think a duplicate is meant to be the start of another document. I'm trying to defend Lion here, but failing. We haven't found a way to disable auto-save in Pages. I wouldn't do that, I would suggest trying to get used to the current approach. In the long term, perhaps with some tweaks I think it will be a lot better than the old way. Hope that helps. Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: versioning in Lion
Speaking personally, I felt immediately at home with auto-save/versioning, apart from a couple of times quitting with an unsaved document and being concerned that I wasn't prompted to save. I guess I didn't manually create versions of documents, relying instead on Time Machine backups. Like you posited, I only created a copy when the new one was going to be quite a different document, using the old one as a starting point, and Duplicate fits right in there. On 27 Oct 2011, at 01:38, Ashley Aitken mrhat...@mac.com wrote: On 27/10/2011, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: My wife is beating me up here with her frustration using Pages and auto-saving/versioning. I can feel the pain for your wife (and I am feeling the pain myself). Lion is a very different way of doing saving/versioning files and I am not sure Apple has got it exactly right yet but I think it is going to be a better way. I am one of the people who always manually versioned files (made a duplicate and then renamed). With Lion, hopefully, this is not going to be necessary any more. She's making a lot of minute changes to a layout but found it frustrating she couldn't go back to her last saved document. Instead, she has to navigate the version history. By last saved version I take it she may mean the last Save a Version not the last version that was saved before she Quit the application the last time she was working on the document. In the future, like iOS, I suspect Mac apps won't even have a Quit menu action. That said, I do think Apple could help here. They should have a way to Revert to last saved version or something like that. What I mean here is to revert to the last explicitly saved version. In the future, I think Apple could even allow one to name saved versions. For example, Version submitted for printing or Version before major changes The Revert to ... menu could then allow you to easily choose one of these named versions. The entire version history would be used for an overview or picking a non-named version. She also wants Save As... She's not happy with Duplicate - since she can't provide a new name. By default, you get a filename copy. As you noted in a later post, the first time you save a duplicate you get the chance to rename it. This could be used for saving explicit (named) versions of the original document but I think that approach moves away from the whole idea of versioning a single documnt in Lion. I think a duplicate is meant to be the start of another document. I'm trying to defend Lion here, but failing. We haven't found a way to disable auto-save in Pages. I wouldn't do that, I would suggest trying to get used to the current approach. In the long term, perhaps with some tweaks I think it will be a lot better than the old way. Hope that helps. Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Safari on Lion
On Oct 24, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: Trying to figure out why Safari (and other apps) seem slow on Lion. Safari, in particular, can take forever to load pages, although other times, it can feel fast. I've run tests from speedtest.net and I'm getting roughly 30 Mbits down - so you'd think everything would be snappy. Not so. On three of my machines, the upgrade made no difference in speed. But on one 2-yr-old iMac, I had horrible performance problems. Finally I booted from the recovery volume and ran disk repair - it found dozens of broken hard links, which it fixed. That made some difference, but not enough. Finally I went nuclear on it - made sure I had a recent ™ backup (hah - Lion autocorrect action there :), booted from Lion DVD, erased the partition and started fresh, then restored from ™. That brought the speed up to close to what it was under SL, but it's still a dog compared to the other machines. No idea why. Frustrating. ./s ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Safari on Lion
On Oct 24, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Scot Hacker wrote: Finally I went nuclear on it - made sure I had a recent ™ backup (hah - Lion autocorrect action there :), booted from Lion DVD, erased the partition and started fresh, then restored from ™. That brought the speed up to close to what it was under SL, but it's still a dog compared to the other machines. No idea why. Frustrating. Where'd you get the Lion DVD? ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Safari on Lion
On Oct 25, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Nathan Sims wrote: On Oct 24, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Scot Hacker wrote: Finally I went nuclear on it - made sure I had a recent ™ backup (hah - Lion autocorrect action there :), booted from Lion DVD, erased the partition and started fresh, then restored from ™. That brought the speed up to close to what it was under SL, but it's still a dog compared to the other machines. No idea why. Frustrating. Where'd you get the Lion DVD? You can create one from the App Store .dmg after you first download it. http://lifehacker.com/5823096/how-to-burn-your-own-lion-install-dvd-or-flash-drive ./s ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Safari on Lion
Trying to figure out why Safari (and other apps) seem slow on Lion. Safari, in particular, can take forever to load pages, although other times, it can feel fast. I've run tests from speedtest.net and I'm getting roughly 30 Mbits down - so you'd think everything would be snappy. Not so. Other apps can take a long time to load - I think it's because they're trying to load previously opened files. Now that I'm back on a spindle drive, I hear the heads hitting hard as I try to launch something as simple as TextEdit. Is the slow load time I'me seeing in Safari (I reset Safari often to eliminate cache issues) related to Safari? or is it something inherent in the Lion network stack? or in the filesystem? versioning? I don't think I'm the only one experiencing this as I'm getting emails from friends and family asking similar questions. K ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: After upgrade to Lion, Safari 5.1 crashes on all sorts of web pages
more info On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:33 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: Ever since I upgraded to Lion (10.7.1) from Snow Leopard, Safari crashes on all sorts of dynamic web pages. www.icloud.com in itunesconnect, when you look at the sales graphs Google Engineer: Here's Why Google+ Is Failing, And How We Can Start Doing This Right and many many more snip It seems to be a GL driver issue of some sort. Maybe an NVidia one? This part of the stack dump seems to always be the same or very simialr Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 com.apple.GeForceGLDriver 0x0002607e 0x2 + 24702 1 com.apple.GeForceGLDriver 0x0002000b3d53 0x2 + 736595 2 com.apple.GeForceGLDriver 0x0002000b44e7 0x2 + 738535 3 GLEngine 0x0001132ebc6d gleUnbindTextureObject + 57 4 GLEngine 0x0001132c0556 gleUnbindDeleteHashNamesAndObjects + 178 5 GLEngine 0x0001131db522 glDeleteTextures_Exec + 747 6 com.apple.QuartzCore 0x7fff94737bcd CA::CG::IOSurfaceRenderer::detach_surface(bool, bool) + 173 7 com.apple.QuartzCore 0x7fff94737cf7 I was able to find one other person with basically the same crashdump (it was on pastebin.com so there was no commentary, just the crashdump) from like back in July with a beta of Lion it seems, on an iMac. Seems that WebProcess and PluginProcess both crash at the same time as the Console shows crash dumps from both within milliseconds of each other. The crash dump is not the same but ends up at the same place. I created a new vanilla user on my system to see if it was dependent on my account. Nope. Happens to the new user as well. Appears to be a bug in the NVidia OpenGL driver. Driving me crazy as it basically makes Safari unusable for a lot of the things I do in safari (itunesconnect / github / many other places)... I installed Google Chrome and am using that and an old FireFox (old due to compatibility with a site I need for my son's school) for lots of stuff. I prefer Safari to tell the truth. I keep sending in the crash dumps as well as one OS X Feedback page on the problem.___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: After upgrade to Lion, Safari 5.1 crashes on all sorts of web pages
On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:33 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: Ever since I upgraded to Lion (10.7.1) from Snow Leopard, Safari crashes on all sorts of dynamic web pages. www.icloud.com in itunesconnect, when you look at the sales graphs Google Engineer: Here's Why Google+ Is Failing, And How We Can Start Doing This Right and many many more I couldn't get it to crash on any of these in Snow Leopard. all have the same symptoms. It tries multiple times to load and then it says - Safari Can't display this webpage Safari has repeatedly encountered an error while trying to display - URL - - where - URL - is the actual URL that it was trying to open. The address bar shows: file:///Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/ Ah, I've seen THIS symptom myself in Snow Leopard. I have noticed it occurs when my network connection is hosed (often when I have a physical connection but no logical connection -- bogus IP, no DNS, unsatisfied hotspot, etc.) AT THE SAME TIME, it also tries to refresh every other open window / open tab in as many Safari windows as you have open and they all do the same thing and fail with the same answer but with their URL. However, unlike the window that triggered the problem, you can just refresh these other failed windows and they come back normally. Symptoms largely mesh here -- I'd check for a loose network cable or wireless signal dropouts. -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
After upgrade to Lion, Safari 5.1 crashes on all sorts of web pages
I upgraded my Snow Leopard Mac Pro (mid 2008 model) to Lion a week ago. I have since updated to 10.7.2. Ever since I upgraded to Lion (10.7.1) from Snow Leopard, Safari crashes on all sorts of dynamic web pages. www.icloud.com in itunesconnect, when you look at the sales graphs Google Engineer: Here's Why Google+ Is Failing, And How We Can Start Doing This Right and many many more all have the same symptoms. It tries multiple times to load and then it says - Safari Can't display this webpage Safari has repeatedly encountered an error while trying to display - URL - - where - URL - is the actual URL that it was trying to open. The address bar shows: file:///Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/ AT THE SAME TIME, it also tries to refresh every other open window / open tab in as many Safari windows as you have open and they all do the same thing and fail with the same answer but with their URL. However, unlike the window that triggered the problem, you can just refresh these other failed windows and they come back normally. After failing like this, the Report to apple window comes up with a stack trace and system info and a place where you can put what you were doing that caused this. This is the stack trace and info about the crash. It is always the same: Process: WebProcess [9002] Path: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/WebKit2.framework/WebProcess.app/Contents/MacOS/WebProcess Identifier: com.apple.WebProcess Version: 7534.51 (7534.51.22) Build Info: WebKit2-753405102200~3 Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: Safari [8873] Date/Time: 2011-10-14 21:08:46.029 -0600 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.2 (11C74) Report Version: 9 Interval Since Last Report: 27736 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 40 Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 24392 sec Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 28 Anonymous UUID: E036B8F6-6E47-4E9E-8A14-27353498D917 Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL) Exception Codes: 0x0001, 0x Application Specific Information: objc[9002]: garbage collection is OFF Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 com.apple.GeForceGLDriver 0x0002607e 0x2 + 24702 1 com.apple.GeForceGLDriver 0x0002000b3d53 0x2 + 736595 2 com.apple.GeForceGLDriver 0x0002000b44e7 0x2 + 738535 3 GLEngine0x0001132ebc6d gleUnbindTextureObject + 57 4 GLEngine0x0001132c0556 gleUnbindDeleteHashNamesAndObjects + 178 5 GLEngine0x0001131db522 glDeleteTextures_Exec + 747 6 com.apple.QuartzCore0x7fff94737bcd CA::CG::IOSurfaceRenderer::detach_surface(bool, bool) + 173 7 com.apple.QuartzCore0x7fff94737cf7 CA::CG::IOSurfaceRenderer::detach_drawable(CA::CG::IOSurfaceDrawable) + 67 8 com.apple.QuartzCore0x7fff946cb21a CA::CG::IOSurfaceDrawable::~IOSurfaceDrawable() + 20 9 com.apple.QuartzCore0x7fff947373c1 CA::CG::IOSurfaceContextDelegate::~IOSurfaceContextDelegate() + 55 10 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x7fff960c3af0 CGContextDelegateFinalize + 53 11 com.apple.CoreFoundation0x7fff9019a1ef CFRelease + 399 12 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x7fff960c3a81 context_reclaim + 74 13 com.apple.CoreFoundation0x7fff9019a1ef CFRelease + 399 14 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff90e5c7ec WebCore::GraphicsContext::platformDestroy() + 30 15 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff90e5c76e WebCore::GraphicsContext::~GraphicsContext() + 24 16 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff910217a7 WebCore::ImageBuffer::~ImageBuffer() + 27 17 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff91011955 WebCore::HTMLCanvasElement::reset() + 207 18 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff9101186b WebCore::HTMLCanvasElement::parseMappedAttribute(WebCore::Attribute*) + 49 19 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff90f5551b WebCore::StyledElement::attributeChanged(WebCore::Attribute*, bool) + 353 20 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff90f54f91 WebCore::NamedNodeMap::addAttribute(WTF::PassRefPtrWebCore::Attribute) + 189 21 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff91043b55 WebCore::Element::setAttribute(WebCore::QualifiedName const, WTF::AtomicString const, int) + 455 22 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff91043979 WebCore::Element::setAttribute(WebCore::QualifiedName const, WTF::AtomicString const) + 17 23 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff910df4ab WebCore::HTMLCanvasElement::setWidth(int) + 101 24 com.apple.WebCore 0x7fff910df438 WebCore::setJSHTMLCanvasElementWidth(JSC
Locked Screensaver in Lion
10.7 (Lion) will by default, no longer allow anyone except the current console user to dismiss an active password protected screen saver. In previous versions of Mac OS X, it was possible to enter the name of any local administrator account credentials and bypass the screen saver, regardless of who was currently logged into the console. In this environment computers are required to be locked so IT maintains a local master admin account on all computers so that an IT staff member could do maintenance/troubleshooting at an end user's Mac locked with a screen saver. The end user is not required to be present to physically unlock the screen saver. I believe this problem exists if you ARD in to the computer as well. In 10.6 you would be required to edit the /etc/pam.d/screensaver file in order for this to work but that does not work in 10.7. Part of the problem in 10.7 is that with a locked screensaver only the credentials of the current console user is presented and it doesn't appear that there is anyway to switch to another admin user. Does anyone know if this behavior can be changed? Am I just missing something really simple? Thanks, Scott CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This fax and any attachments thereto may contain information which is privileged and confidential, and is intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use whatsoever of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and destroy the document and any attachments. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Locked Screensaver in Lion
Could the admin ssh into the Mac and blow away the screensaver process (would that be SystemUIServer)? On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Scott Roebuck wrote: 10.7 (Lion) will by default, no longer allow anyone except the current console user to dismiss an active password protected screen saver. In previous versions of Mac OS X, it was possible to enter the name of any local administrator account credentials and bypass the screen saver, regardless of who was currently logged into the console. In this environment computers are required to be locked so IT maintains a local master admin account on all computers so that an IT staff member could do maintenance/troubleshooting at an end user's Mac locked with a screen saver. The end user is not required to be present to physically unlock the screen saver. I believe this problem exists if you ARD in to the computer as well. In 10.6 you would be required to edit the /etc/pam.d/screensaver file in order for this to work but that does not work in 10.7. Part of the problem in 10.7 is that with a locked screensaver only the credentials of the current console user is presented and it doesn't appear that there is anyway to switch to another admin user. Does anyone know if this behavior can be changed? Am I just missing something really simple? Thanks, Scott CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This fax and any attachments thereto may contain information which is privileged and confidential, and is intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use whatsoever of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and destroy the document and any attachments. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk -- Macs R We -- Personal Macintosh Service and Support in the Wickenburg and far Northwest Valley Areas. http://macsrwe.com ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Locked Screensaver in Lion
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Scott Roebuck wrote: 10.7 (Lion) will by default, no longer allow anyone except the current console user to dismiss an active password protected screen saver. This is only partially correct. Another user can log in as a second user. At the BOTTOM of the screen there is a switch user button Chad In previous versions of Mac OS X, it was possible to enter the name of any local administrator account credentials and bypass the screen saver, regardless of who was currently logged into the console. In this environment computers are required to be locked so IT maintains a local master admin account on all computers so that an IT staff member could do maintenance/troubleshooting at an end user's Mac locked with a screen saver. The end user is not required to be present to physically unlock the screen saver. I believe this problem exists if you ARD in to the computer as well. In 10.6 you would be required to edit the /etc/pam.d/screensaver file in order for this to work but that does not work in 10.7. Part of the problem in 10.7 is that with a locked screensaver only the credentials of the current console user is presented and it doesn't appear that there is anyway to switch to another admin user. Does anyone know if this behavior can be changed? Am I just missing something really simple? Thanks, Scott CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This fax and any attachments thereto may contain information which is privileged and confidential, and is intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use whatsoever of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and destroy the document and any attachments. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Locked Screensaver in Lion
Right... but it switches user accounts. I need to login to the current users space so that I can get to their user settings and documents in a specific app. If I login to the Tech space or account it doesn't do me any good. On Oct 5, 2011, at 2:58 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Scott Roebuck wrote: 10.7 (Lion) will by default, no longer allow anyone except the current console user to dismiss an active password protected screen saver. This is only partially correct. Another user can log in as a second user. At the BOTTOM of the screen there is a switch user button Chad In previous versions of Mac OS X, it was possible to enter the name of any local administrator account credentials and bypass the screen saver, regardless of who was currently logged into the console. In this environment computers are required to be locked so IT maintains a local master admin account on all computers so that an IT staff member could do maintenance/troubleshooting at an end user's Mac locked with a screen saver. The end user is not required to be present to physically unlock the screen saver. I believe this problem exists if you ARD in to the computer as well. In 10.6 you would be required to edit the /etc/pam.d/screensaver file in order for this to work but that does not work in 10.7. Part of the problem in 10.7 is that with a locked screensaver only the credentials of the current console user is presented and it doesn't appear that there is anyway to switch to another admin user. Does anyone know if this behavior can be changed? Am I just missing something really simple? Thanks, Scott CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This fax and any attachments thereto may contain information which is privileged and confidential, and is intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use whatsoever of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and destroy the document and any attachments. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This fax and any attachments thereto may contain information which is privileged and confidential, and is intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use whatsoever of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and destroy the document and any attachments. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Locked Screensaver in Lion
OK, sorry. Was not clear on first reading that you needed to be in that user's account. Second reading made it more clear. On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Scott Roebuck wrote: Right... but it switches user accounts. I need to login to the current users space so that I can get to their user settings and documents in a specific app. If I login to the Tech space or account it doesn't do me any good. On Oct 5, 2011, at 2:58 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Scott Roebuck wrote: 10.7 (Lion) will by default, no longer allow anyone except the current console user to dismiss an active password protected screen saver. This is only partially correct. Another user can log in as a second user. At the BOTTOM of the screen there is a switch user button Chad In previous versions of Mac OS X, it was possible to enter the name of any local administrator account credentials and bypass the screen saver, regardless of who was currently logged into the console. In this environment computers are required to be locked so IT maintains a local master admin account on all computers so that an IT staff member could do maintenance/troubleshooting at an end user's Mac locked with a screen saver. The end user is not required to be present to physically unlock the screen saver. I believe this problem exists if you ARD in to the computer as well. In 10.6 you would be required to edit the /etc/pam.d/screensaver file in order for this to work but that does not work in 10.7. Part of the problem in 10.7 is that with a locked screensaver only the credentials of the current console user is presented and it doesn't appear that there is anyway to switch to another admin user. Does anyone know if this behavior can be changed? Am I just missing something really simple? Thanks, Scott CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This fax and any attachments thereto may contain information which is privileged and confidential, and is intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use whatsoever of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and destroy the document and any attachments. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This fax and any attachments thereto may contain information which is privileged and confidential, and is intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use whatsoever of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and destroy the document and any attachments. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: MobileMe sending mail (LION)
On Oct 1, 2011, at 7:32 PM, LuKreme wrote: Am I foolish for trusting Google? Perhaps, but I've seen nothing to convince me they are not trustworthy. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/30/us-internet-security-idUSTRE78T2GY20110930 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
