Re: Is the disappearance of Voice Over a unique problem, or do others have it, too?
Mine dies whenever I command tab really quickly between tons of windows, or move quickly through the finder or something like that. It's very strange and annoying. Will try the tutorial launch work around. Thanks so much for that. Kevin On Mar 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello again everyone, > > While it is good to know that I'm not the only one experiencing the problem, > I wish that there were a way to duplicate it at will. Being able to do so > would certainly make it easier for programmers to squish the bug. > > The problem of lost speech sometimes occurs when I rapidly Command-Tab > through running programs, and it also frequently occurs when I rapidly press > FN+F1 to quickly get the brightness down to zero which, or so I have heard, > is a great way to reduce battery consumption. > > I, too shall write to the Accessibility group and we'll all have to let the > chips fall where they may. > > Spring is finally coming to Vienna, Austria, and it's about time! > > Cheers, > > Mike > > > On 14,Mar,2011, at 6:22 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> I think you're overstating the case a bit here... Yes, it's annoying, but I >> haven't found it that annoying. I haven't experienced it as often as others >> here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two solves it. >> Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not loose our sense of >> perspective. It could be much worse, we could be stuck on Windows with a >> screen reader not built into the OS, which when it freezes requires us to >> reboot the system completely. I'll stop now. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I have >>> seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better with time. >>> it appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. in any case, >>> it is annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to accessibility. its >>> gotten bad enough that I may start sending bug reports to steve jobs >>> directly. perhaps he'll give the dev team a swift kick in the pants to make >>> this a priority,. perhaps if more of us would do so, it would garner enough >>> attention that apple Inc. would have to do something about this problem. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described might at least be a usable work-around. I will try it the next time Voice Over abandons me. Thank you very much. To all of you who wrote, thank you. Sometimes, the only way to recover has been to just hit the Power key, wait a second or so and then just press Enter. Not an elegant solution, but at least it has worked since "Shut Down" is the default selection in this dialogue.. I will definitely post a message to the Accessibility Group, apprising them of something they probably already know by now. My best to all and thanks again, Mike On 14,Mar,2011, at 4:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I have this problem on my MacBook as well. I find that the easiest way to > get VoiceOver restarted is to press control+option+command+f8. This > starts the VoiceOver tutorial. As soon as the tutorial starts, press > escape and VoiceOver will restart. I hope this problem gets fixed soon. > > It must be unique to the MacBooks as I cannot produce the problem on my > iMac. > > Robert Carter > > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For >> reasons I do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, especially >> when I am using Mail. >> >> Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to >> "unload itself," and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit Command >> F5 until VO decides to make an appearance. Its disappearance is >> apparently random, i.e. I can't make it disappear at will. >> >> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If not, what might be causing >> it? Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> My best to all of you, >> >> Mike >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To
Re: Adobe at CSUN -- Did anybody talk to them?
I went to the HTML5 v. Flash presentation today. IMHO there was tap dancing going on in the presentation. In the list of "Cons" about Flash they listed Mac accessibility but the speaker said they were activly working on it and were adding support for open standards-based accessibility APIs like IAccessible. Sooo, how will that help with voiceover? They seem to have some nice object to accessibility API mappings going on for Windows but are tenacious about not implementing for Apple's APIs. I'm sure the general friction with Apple over flash on iPhone isn't helping things either. BTW, WebAIM screen reader survey found VO usage on non-iOS devices over the last three surveys has gone from 6% in January 09 to 20% in December 2010 in the "commonly used" category. Still only 10% in the "primary" category (up 1%) as compared to Jaws at 59% (down 6%). For those of you wondering, yes I'm still lurking. Just not as much time to respond these days. CB On 3/18/11 6:18 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: I'm wondering if anybody here who attended CSUN heard any promising news from Adobe regarding the accessibility of Flash on the Mac. It's now been one year since Adobe announced they were, "...planning major upgrades to the accessibility support in Adobe Flash Player" and my testing of the latest Flash player, 10.3 beta, shows no accessibility improvements unless you count the addition of a control in System Preferences as an improvement Here's the link to their CSUN schedule: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2011/03/adobe-at-csun-2011-conference.html Here's the link to their March 24, 2010 announcement about bringing accessibility to Flash: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Finally got Boot Camp going, but now more trouble
Perhaps I'm missing something, but surely you can just ethernet it up to see if you need to download any updates? On 19/03/2011, Brent Harding wrote: > Hi there. After taking my 13-inch Macbook to a little shop a friend of dad > knew of, they finally got Boot Camp and XP going on this somewhat older > white Macbook. One of the major problems, well, the only thing I've noticed > so far is that no matter how I reconfigure my router, the wifi either times > out connecting or says that I might be out of range. If I'm across the room > from the thing, it better not be out of range because if I hit connect on > other ones I have no clue who owns them, those will ask me for the password. > The strange thing is that my own wifi works fine booting up from Snow > Leopard, but not XP. I tried lowering security all the way down to WEP as > believe it or not, all the other routers according to the network table in > the airport thingy say WEP in them, how aweful from a security > standpoint but I don't know who owns any of them to get into temporarily to > download some updates and see if that solves this. At the place I live at, > doubt anyone would know their SSID because they're all non-descript, some > 2-wire and numbers, one real long and random one and a cellular-connected > one through a local provider, so wouldn't know who to ask permission from if > they knew the default keys. With mine, there's 5 in total I can see from > here, but the one that refuses to ask for a key has to be mine. I have > Charter for Internet, and my modem is a SMCD3GN Docsis 3 Wireless gateway, > all the latest and greatest from what I can tell, even with gigabit > hardwired ports. How do I force this thing to take on the XP install on my > Macbook? I really have to wonder if these modems do Mac address registration > and OS analysis. It lets MacOSX on without a hitch, but when I reboot to XP > it says I'm out of range almost immediately or it sits there as long as you > can wait like a firewall would respond if it's decided the answer is no. Is > there a way I can reset what my gateway thinks about the Mac address for the > laptop so that it will allow the XP side on? I wonder then if it will forbid > OSX? I don't even know if that shop downloaded that 300 mb update there is > to the Boot Camp drivers, at least there was when I installed those into a > demo of fusion. Is there a way to download them with a PC and install via > USB stick since I can't find an open network? If not, what kind of 2Wire > Docsis 3 modem can I buy myself to replace this thing, figuring if I have my > own, this silly detection won't be there? I suppose if I convinced Charter > to send another one, I have to be careful to connect wirelessly with the > windows side first and see if it then locks Mac out, but I'd rather not go > through that mess. > Thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Finally got Boot Camp going, but now more trouble
Hi there. After taking my 13-inch Macbook to a little shop a friend of dad knew of, they finally got Boot Camp and XP going on this somewhat older white Macbook. One of the major problems, well, the only thing I've noticed so far is that no matter how I reconfigure my router, the wifi either times out connecting or says that I might be out of range. If I'm across the room from the thing, it better not be out of range because if I hit connect on other ones I have no clue who owns them, those will ask me for the password. The strange thing is that my own wifi works fine booting up from Snow Leopard, but not XP. I tried lowering security all the way down to WEP as believe it or not, all the other routers according to the network table in the airport thingy say WEP in them, how aweful from a security standpoint but I don't know who owns any of them to get into temporarily to download some updates and see if that solves this. At the place I live at, doubt anyone would know their SSID because they're all non-descript, some 2-wire and numbers, one real long and random one and a cellular-connected one through a local provider, so wouldn't know who to ask permission from if they knew the default keys. With mine, there's 5 in total I can see from here, but the one that refuses to ask for a key has to be mine. I have Charter for Internet, and my modem is a SMCD3GN Docsis 3 Wireless gateway, all the latest and greatest from what I can tell, even with gigabit hardwired ports. How do I force this thing to take on the XP install on my Macbook? I really have to wonder if these modems do Mac address registration and OS analysis. It lets MacOSX on without a hitch, but when I reboot to XP it says I'm out of range almost immediately or it sits there as long as you can wait like a firewall would respond if it's decided the answer is no. Is there a way I can reset what my gateway thinks about the Mac address for the laptop so that it will allow the XP side on? I wonder then if it will forbid OSX? I don't even know if that shop downloaded that 300 mb update there is to the Boot Camp drivers, at least there was when I installed those into a demo of fusion. Is there a way to download them with a PC and install via USB stick since I can't find an open network? If not, what kind of 2Wire Docsis 3 modem can I buy myself to replace this thing, figuring if I have my own, this silly detection won't be there? I suppose if I convinced Charter to send another one, I have to be careful to connect wirelessly with the windows side first and see if it then locks Mac out, but I'd rather not go through that mess. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
hotspots again, might be doing something wrong
Hi list, So i've reopened a pdf which normally has 2 hotspots on different pages assigned, but pressing vo 1 or 2 which are the hotspots doesn't do anything. I instead get the negative chime. Double pressing on my hotspot list shows that all are inactive, and i can't get them activated. Is there a specific key to press to reactivate the hotspots? Best Yuma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Adobe at CSUN -- Did anybody talk to them?
I'm wondering if anybody here who attended CSUN heard any promising news from Adobe regarding the accessibility of Flash on the Mac. It's now been one year since Adobe announced they were, "...planning major upgrades to the accessibility support in Adobe Flash Player" and my testing of the latest Flash player, 10.3 beta, shows no accessibility improvements unless you count the addition of a control in System Preferences as an improvement Here's the link to their CSUN schedule: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2011/03/adobe-at-csun-2011-conference.html Here's the link to their March 24, 2010 announcement about bringing accessibility to Flash: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Keynote Question
Thanks a bunch, Anne! Ezzie On 3/18/11, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Ezzy, > > You can subscribe to the VoiceOver On podcast through iTunes. Just enter > VoiceOver On in the search field and it should be the second result after > VoiceOver Getting Started. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 18 Mar 2011, at 05:49, Ezzy Bueno wrote: > >> Thanks sooo much, Anne! :) >> Where can I locate the podcast you mentioned? >> >> Ezzie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- Ezzy Ez Buenito http://www.sillyez.com (512) 553-8553 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving items in a playlist with VoiceOver
Sorry all, Seems it was me being thick... I was reading the digest mail for this list, and saw someone saying about cutting and pasting bookmarks, which gave me the best idea of all time... Seems it was as simple as that! :-D Sorry for the spam, but hopefully my blunder helps someone else out there LOL. Cheers, Chris Norman wrote: > Hi all, > I think I may have asked this before, but I couldn't find anything in the > list archives. Sorry if it's just me being thick, it is a little later here! > :-D > > I'm trying to move an item within an iTunes playlist, from the bottom to the > top. I've tried drag and drop, move item, and resize item, but to no avail. > > I've googled, and answers.com just says to drag with the mouse. Anyone got > any ideas? > > The other thing I tried with no success, is finding the file that defines the > playlist in the iTunes folder structure, but I couldn't even find that. > Anyone got any ideas? > > Cheers, > > Take care, > > Chris Norman > Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com > Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moving items in a playlist with VoiceOver
Hi all, I think I may have asked this before, but I couldn't find anything in the list archives. Sorry if it's just me being thick, it is a little later here! :-D I'm trying to move an item within an iTunes playlist, from the bottom to the top. I've tried drag and drop, move item, and resize item, but to no avail. I've googled, and answers.com just says to drag with the mouse. Anyone got any ideas? The other thing I tried with no success, is finding the file that defines the playlist in the iTunes folder structure, but I couldn't even find that. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: hot spot expiry?
Hi all! Whilst playing around with hotspots I also found that you can find out what is in a particular hotspot! If you do not want to look at all your current hotspots but want to look at 8 only you press vo+command+8 and it will tell you what you have there! Oh yeah Jes great podcast! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 18 Mar 2011, at 21:45, Esther wrote: > Hi, > > Hotspots are persistent through reboots. I'm not sure whether this was true > in the earliest versions of the OS when they were first introduced in > Leopard, though. They do have to be someplace that VoiceOver can "see", > though -- else we could set hot spots for the problematic app icons that > don't show up for VoiceOver navigation in the status menu bar. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:40, Yuma Decaux wrote: > >> Thanks for those clarifications. >> >> I always thought hotspots just didn't work anymore once a program was closed >> for some reason. >> >> This actually makes more sense anyway, but i always used hotspots for >> document referrals only, but this sort of changes a bit more of my workflow >> :) >> >> Thanks again >> >> Yuma >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
hot spots
Howdy all, You can find your hot spots file in: ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.VoiceOver3 custom.hotspots.plist XML Property List louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: hot spot expiry?
Hi, Hotspots are persistent through reboots. I'm not sure whether this was true in the earliest versions of the OS when they were first introduced in Leopard, though. They do have to be someplace that VoiceOver can "see", though -- else we could set hot spots for the problematic app icons that don't show up for VoiceOver navigation in the status menu bar. Cheers, Esther On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:40, Yuma Decaux wrote: > Thanks for those clarifications. > > I always thought hotspots just didn't work anymore once a program was closed > for some reason. > > This actually makes more sense anyway, but i always used hotspots for > document referrals only, but this sort of changes a bit more of my workflow :) > > Thanks again > > Yuma > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Something that sounds like "Eck" when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read
Hi, Good catch, Greg. Pete can probably check this if he slows down his speech. VO+J only works if you still have the Mail Preview Pane showing (which is the default set up for Mail). Cheers, Esther On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:32, Greg Aikens wrote: > VO says the word "text" when I use VO+J to move from the message table to a > message. Is this what you are referring to? > > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Anyone else noticing this? I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model >> 2.42ghz if that helps anyone. Tia. >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >> Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: hot spot expiry?
Thanks for those clarifications. I always thought hotspots just didn't work anymore once a program was closed for some reason. This actually makes more sense anyway, but i always used hotspots for document referrals only, but this sort of changes a bit more of my workflow :) Thanks again Yuma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: hot spot expiry?
The hot spots are automatically saved, until you either replace them or get rid of them. Unfortunately, you can only have up to 10 hot spots, from numbers 1 through 0. That's Apple's design. The hot spots are only active if the program associated with them is open because it's a quick way of returning to an area of the program, or a quick way of monitoring something within a program, such as a progress indicator. Remember, you can press vo-hot spot number twice to bring up your hot spot chooser menu to see which ones you haven't used in a while. Jes On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > > Hi list, > > This might be something that's already been answered, but here it goes: > > Can the hotspots continue to be active when a program closes, and is there a > way to save them somewhere? Maybe using keyboard maestro or quickeyes? > > There are a bunch of hotspots i'd need to have beyond the available digits on > the keyboard, and i'd like to save them for later use instead of resetting > them at each session. > > Any help greatly appreciated > > Yuma > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: hot spot expiry?
Hi Yuma, Perhaps you can clarify your requirement? The way I've used hotspots, closing the associated app renders them inapplicable. When I reopen the app my hotspot again becomes active. Only way I know to save them is via the "export preferences" menu item in the voiceOver utility. Perhaps you could get beyond the limit of ten by saving several hotspot files and automating which file becomes loaded via scripting? Perhaps others will chime in with a better idea. Best regards. Geoff On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > > Hi list, > > This might be something that's already been answered, but here it goes: > > Can the hotspots continue to be active when a program closes, and is there a > way to save them somewhere? Maybe using keyboard maestro or quickeyes? > > There are a bunch of hotspots i'd need to have beyond the available digits on > the keyboard, and i'd like to save them for later use instead of resetting > them at each session. > > Any help greatly appreciated > > Yuma > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: organizing bookmarks
Hi Matthew, Collections refer to special categories of items under the Bookmarks menu, such as "History", the "Bookmarks Bar" (i.e. the most frequently used bookmark entries that appear on the browser page when the Bookmarks Bar is not hidden), the "Bookmarks Menu" (usually, the list of bookmarks not on your Bookmarks Bar), the "Address Book" (for URLs of contacts in your Address Book), "RSS Feeds", if you choose to subscribe to them and have them displayed in Safari. So the table of "Collections" in the "Show All Bookmarks" page of Safari displays these items as well as folders of bookmarks. When you use the "Create new Collection" button you create a folder under the table listing both the categories I listed, and folders of Bookmarks. If you select a category under the table of bookmark collections (whether "History" or a particular bookmarks folder), then stop interacting with the table and navigate to the table of items under that selected collection (e.g. with Command-Shift-T to move to the next table) you can see both individual bookmarks and (sub)folders of bookmarks. The "Create new Collection" button creates a new folder of bookmarks under the Table of Collections. The "Create new Folder" button creates a new folder within the collections you have selected in the Table of Collections -- this could be a sub-folder of a bookmarks folder, or a folder on your Bookmarks Bar, for example. Also, to answer Laura's original question about reordering bookmarks, I find this easiest to do using Safari on the iPad (or iPhone), where after double-tapping the "Bookmarks" button, I can double tap the "Edit" button. either on the top level, where the items are folders, or after selecting a collection like the "Bookmarks Bar" or "Bookmarks Menu". For folders or bookmarks in my synced bookmarks this brings us a "delete" button beside the listed entry on the left side of the screen and a "Reorder . draggable" button on the right side of the screen for the listed folder. Doing a double tap and hold pass through gesture on this button lets me rearrange the order by drag and drop, and produces the burbling noise that the gesture was recognized. As I move my finger up or down the right side of the iPhone screen, I'll hear a "clink" and an announcement like "moved above" (or "moved below"), (and then the name of the bookmark or folder that I just move past in the up or down direction). To check the ordering of the items, just move your finger down the center of the iPhone screen, and scroll (three finger flick up) when you reach the bottom to keep going. Or, you could just flick right or do a "read all" from the current point (two finger flick down), but you'll also hear the delete buttons at the left and the move buttons at the right also listed, in addition to the name of the bookmark. When things are ordered to your satisfaction, double tap the "Done button". I think these will sync back to your Safari bookmarks on the Mac -- at least, this does through MobileMe, and I believe this also works when you sync through connecting your iPhone to iTunes if you have the box for syncing bookmarks checked. (Someone please check me on this.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 18, 2011, at 08:16, Matthew Janusauskas wrote: > > Can anyone explain the difference between folders and collections for Safari > bookmarks? > > Matthew > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andre Nuno Soares > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 17:44 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: organizing bookmarks > > Hello Laura, > > After you press Command Option B you'll be in a Search Text Field. VO left > arrow once and you'll find a table. Interact with it (VO-Shift-down arrow)and > you'll see categories for History (for the list of web pages you have visited > so far) Bookmarks Bar, Bookmarks Menu, All RSS Feeds, and one entry for each > bookmark import, if you did any. > Use the up and down arrow keys to move between the categories. > > You probably have been adding bookmarks to the Bookmarks Menu, so select that > and stop interacting with the table (VO-Shift-up arrow). VO-right arrow twice > and you're at a different table. Interact with it and you'll see all your > bookmarks. > > To create a bookmark folder navigate to the bookmark immediately above where > you want the folder to be and press Command-Shift-N. Type the name you want > to give it (you won't hear it being echoed) and finish with Enter. > > To change a bookmark location in the Menu, just cut it (Command-X) and paste > it (Command-V), again on the bookmark immediately above where you want this > one to be. > > To change the name or URL of a bookmark, select it and press VO-Shift-M for > the application menu, where you'll find this and other options. > > > Hope I managed to be clear :-) > > Cheers, > André >
Re: Something that sounds like "Eck" when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read
VO says the word "text" when I use VO+J to move from the message table to a message. Is this what you are referring to? On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Anyone else noticing this? I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model > 2.42ghz if that helps anyone. Tia. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > Twitter @lpnalda > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Hot Spots podcast is available
Yes, you can use it in any program, pages, mail, safari, just use your imagination. Jes On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > I really found this podcast helpful as well, just listened to it today. Can > you use it in any program, like pages, for example? > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > On 2011-03-15, at 8:12 PM, Sharon Ballantyne wrote: > >> Dear Jes and others, >> >> As a new Mac user, I really found this podcast useful and what a time saver >> it will be in eliminating a bunch of key strokes. I have most of my mail >> from other accounts set to forward to my inbox of one account. >> >> How would I set up for example my g-mail account to have its own mailbox as >> you modelled with your road runner and g-mail? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> You can e-mail off list at >> >> sbal...@nexicom.net >> >> Thank-you, >> >> Sharon >> On 2011-03-15, at 3:00 PM, Jes Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> The VoiceOVer Hot Spots podcast is now available for streaming and >>> download. Have fun. >>> To download, visit: >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4707788/VO-Hotspots.mp3 >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Amadeus Pro and switching between tracks
Hello! I have recently tried to find a workaround for the following: I have two tracks in a project and I want to edit one of them. The only way to do this from the keyboard is to press the letter n as in next to switch to the next track. I read on the maccessibility-website that there should be a way to select a specific track with voiceover. But I can't get this method to work. Have any of you any suggestions of an alternativ way to get around selecting tracks? Best regards Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Sharp Keys in Win 7
Hi Guys, just to let you know: I tried Sharp Keys 3 in Win7 32 bit in Fusion 3 and it works great. All the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
Thanks Esther. As always, your advice, suggestions, and user-experience is invaluable. :) I'll soon be a new Mac user, so it's fabulous that you're still as freely-giving with your methodology as you are. Thanks again, am off to have a look at Amazon upon sending. Twitter: @IndigoCellist Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi, > > I answered Chris's post on the mac-access list, but the quick summary is that > if you buy the box sets for 1 year of MobileMe service, either in a store or > on-line through Amazon, or another vendor, you can scan and OCR the 16 > character activation code that is stickered onto either the enclosed card or > booklet. I have my MobileMe account set with the box checked not to > automatically renew. Then, when it's close to the time for renewal, I just > buy the box set (usually around $70 from Amazon, but prices have gone as low > as $52), and go to the MobileMe activation page: > https://secure.me.com/wo/WebObjects/Signup.woa/wa/activation > Paste the activation code into the text box and change the selection from the > first option of setting up a new account to the second option of "Apply to an > existing account. Renew your subscription or convert your trial or family > member sub account to a full subscription" by navigating to it and doing a > VO-Space, then proceed to the continue button (labeled "btn_continue.png"), > press it (VO-Space), and give the log in for your MobileMe account for the > renewal to be applied to. You'll be able to check the new expiration date > for your account. > > Although Apple has recently stopped selling the MobileMe box sets in their > stores, you can still find these for sale on line and through other vendors. > Also, it doesn't matter if the box is labeled "old version" at Amazon -- > those codes will still work. The only thing is that you can't apply this way > in advance of your renewal (e.g. stockpile 3 years worth and apply them all > in advance); this is only effective for the period just before your renewal > is due (maybe a few weeks or a month?). > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 07:20, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you. Seems to me that >> somebody's gone and dropped the ball big time on this one. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of >>> mobileme on Apple's website :) >>> On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: >>> Hi Chris: Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be advocating for just this kind of thing. Carolyn H On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Hi gang, > > Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your > mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current > card expires? > > I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my > subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details > or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's > wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with > a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend > my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit > with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio > alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will > just have to call Apple. > > I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition > system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to > put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to > a different real person. The final real person could not really help me > but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme > chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and > this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going > back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of > the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment > details over the chat window. > > So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to > have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the > flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I > can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. > > Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessi
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
Hi, I answered Chris's post on the mac-access list, but the quick summary is that if you buy the box sets for 1 year of MobileMe service, either in a store or on-line through Amazon, or another vendor, you can scan and OCR the 16 character activation code that is stickered onto either the enclosed card or booklet. I have my MobileMe account set with the box checked not to automatically renew. Then, when it's close to the time for renewal, I just buy the box set (usually around $70 from Amazon, but prices have gone as low as $52), and go to the MobileMe activation page: https://secure.me.com/wo/WebObjects/Signup.woa/wa/activation Paste the activation code into the text box and change the selection from the first option of setting up a new account to the second option of "Apply to an existing account. Renew your subscription or convert your trial or family member sub account to a full subscription" by navigating to it and doing a VO-Space, then proceed to the continue button (labeled "btn_continue.png"), press it (VO-Space), and give the log in for your MobileMe account for the renewal to be applied to. You'll be able to check the new expiration date for your account. Although Apple has recently stopped selling the MobileMe box sets in their stores, you can still find these for sale on line and through other vendors. Also, it doesn't matter if the box is labeled "old version" at Amazon -- those codes will still work. The only thing is that you can't apply this way in advance of your renewal (e.g. stockpile 3 years worth and apply them all in advance); this is only effective for the period just before your renewal is due (maybe a few weeks or a month?). HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 18, 2011, at 07:20, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you. Seems to me that > somebody's gone and dropped the ball big time on this one. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > Skype name: > barefootedray > > Facebook: > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of >> mobileme on Apple's website :) >> On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris: >>> Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be >>> advocating for just this kind of thing. >>> >>> Carolyn H >>> On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>> Hi gang, Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires? I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real person. The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat window. So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will take my business elsewhere. Chris *in a huff and not amused :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: organizing bookmarks
Can anyone explain the difference between folders and collections for Safari bookmarks? Matthew -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andre Nuno Soares Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 17:44 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: organizing bookmarks Hello Laura, After you press Command Option B you'll be in a Search Text Field. VO left arrow once and you'll find a table. Interact with it (VO-Shift-down arrow)and you'll see categories for History (for the list of web pages you have visited so far) Bookmarks Bar, Bookmarks Menu, All RSS Feeds, and one entry for each bookmark import, if you did any. Use the up and down arrow keys to move between the categories. You probably have been adding bookmarks to the Bookmarks Menu, so select that and stop interacting with the table (VO-Shift-up arrow). VO-right arrow twice and you're at a different table. Interact with it and you'll see all your bookmarks. To create a bookmark folder navigate to the bookmark immediately above where you want the folder to be and press Command-Shift-N. Type the name you want to give it (you won't hear it being echoed) and finish with Enter. To change a bookmark location in the Menu, just cut it (Command-X) and paste it (Command-V), again on the bookmark immediately above where you want this one to be. To change the name or URL of a bookmark, select it and press VO-Shift-M for the application menu, where you'll find this and other options. Hope I managed to be clear :-) Cheers, André On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Laura Bratton wrote: > Hi Andre, > Once I have pressed command option B how do I make the changes that > you listed? > Thanks, > Laura > > Andre Nuno Soares wrote: >> Hello Laura, >> >> Command Option B displays all your bookmarks . In here you can change your >> bookmarks display order, their name or URL, add bookmark folders,etc. >> Was this what you were looking for? >> >> >> >> HTH, >> André >> >> On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Laura Bratton wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> Is there a way to organize my bookmarks? on my PC I could organize the >>> bookmarks by alphabet. can that be done on the mac? >>> Thanks for the help, >>> Laura >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
When I set this thing up I had sight, and had no idea I would need to worry about accessibility. Put it this way, I find the main facebook website more accessible! But when you have it working with Apple Mail, iCal, Address Book etc across a number of Macs sharing the account and also my iPhone etc, it works very well. I love push email and syncing etc and don't think there is much out there that can beat it. But the mobileme website is awful but it is better on the Mac then Windows for accessibility. If I was you, I would maybe consider google for now. On 18 Mar 2011, at 17:56, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: > I too am curious as to your findings here, because I intended to subscribe > with MobileMe within the next few weeks, and/or upon the supposed big > announcement in April. Is this service more accessible on the Mac side than > windows for example? Or is access a dead thing across the board? This is > truly disheartening, so definitely keep us posted as to your discoveries. > > > > > Twitter: @IndigoCellist > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you. Seems to me that >> somebody's gone and dropped the ball big time on this one. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of >>> mobileme on Apple's website :) >>> On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: >>> Hi Chris: Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be advocating for just this kind of thing. Carolyn H On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Hi gang, > > Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your > mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current > card expires? > > I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my > subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details > or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's > wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with > a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend > my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit > with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio > alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will > just have to call Apple. > > I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition > system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to > put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to > a different real person. The final real person could not really help me > but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme > chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and > this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going > back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of > the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment > details over the chat window. > > So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to > have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the > flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I > can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. > > Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I > will take my business elsewhere. > > Chris > *in a huff and not amused :( > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group
Something that sounds like "Eck" when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read
Anyone else noticing this? I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model 2.42ghz if that helps anyone. Tia. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
I too am curious as to your findings here, because I intended to subscribe with MobileMe within the next few weeks, and/or upon the supposed big announcement in April. Is this service more accessible on the Mac side than windows for example? Or is access a dead thing across the board? This is truly disheartening, so definitely keep us posted as to your discoveries. Twitter: @IndigoCellist Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you. Seems to me that > somebody's gone and dropped the ball big time on this one. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > Skype name: > barefootedray > > Facebook: > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of >> mobileme on Apple's website :) >> On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris: >>> Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be >>> advocating for just this kind of thing. >>> >>> Carolyn H >>> On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>> Hi gang, Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires? I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real person. The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat window. So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will take my business elsewhere. Chris *in a huff and not amused :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to
Possibly OT: imac restore disks?
Hey all, I have an imac g3 (slot-loader, 600 MHZ...). I'm looking for the mac OS9.2.2 restore disks... probably a long-shot, but if anybody has them or a disk image they're willing to send, I'd be really grateful! I only need mac OS9 to upgrade the firmware so I can install tiger... I have a mac os 9.0.4 disk but, as this is the summer 2001 iMac, it can only boot 9.2 earliest. Thanks! Ash -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you. Seems to me that somebody's gone and dropped the ball big time on this one. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of > mobileme on Apple's website :) > On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Chris: >> Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be >> advocating for just this kind of thing. >> >> Carolyn H >> On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Hi gang, >>> >>> Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your >>> mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current >>> card expires? >>> >>> I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my >>> subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details >>> or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's >>> wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a >>> bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my >>> payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with >>> a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio >>> alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just >>> have to call Apple. >>> >>> I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition >>> system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put >>> me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a >>> different real person. The final real person could not really help me but >>> offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat >>> technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this >>> guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back >>> and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat >>> window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over >>> the chat window. >>> >>> So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have >>> a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with >>> eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how >>> a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. >>> >>> Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I >>> will take my business elsewhere. >>> >>> Chris >>> *in a huff and not amused :( >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of mobileme on Apple's website :) On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Chris: > Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be > advocating for just this kind of thing. > > Carolyn H > On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Hi gang, >> >> Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your >> mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current >> card expires? >> >> I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my >> subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or >> my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle >> with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of >> playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment >> details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen >> capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As >> there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call >> Apple. >> >> I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition >> system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put >> me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a >> different real person. The final real person could not really help me but >> offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat >> technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy >> is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and >> forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat >> window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over >> the chat window. >> >> So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have >> a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with >> eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how >> a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. >> >> Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I >> will take my business elsewhere. >> >> Chris >> *in a huff and not amused :( >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
Hi Chris: Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be advocating for just this kind of thing. Carolyn H On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Hi gang, > > Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your > mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card > expires? > > I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription > is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account > and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the > pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing > around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details > and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. > Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no > one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. > > I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition > system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put > me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a > different real person. The final real person could not really help me but > offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat > technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy > is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and > forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window > came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat > window. > > So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a > telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes > that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a > blind user is going to complete this process themselves. > > Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will > take my business elsewhere. > > Chris > *in a huff and not amused :( > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
MobileMe Renewal Hell
Hi gang, Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires? I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real person. The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat window. So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will take my business elsewhere. Chris *in a huff and not amused :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Keynote Question
Hello Ezzy, You can subscribe to the VoiceOver On podcast through iTunes. Just enter VoiceOver On in the search field and it should be the second result after VoiceOver Getting Started. Cheers, Anne On 18 Mar 2011, at 05:49, Ezzy Bueno wrote: > Thanks sooo much, Anne! :) > Where can I locate the podcast you mentioned? > > Ezzie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
