Re: Activating links in mail

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Johnny,

To activate a link in a mail message, you need to interact with the text of the 
message. Alternatively, you can find each link in turn by pressing VO-Cmd-l to 
find next link. You then just have to press VO-Space to activate it.

Cheers,

Anne

On 16 Aug 2011, at 08:29, Johnny Angel! wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> I'm sory if this has been covered before, but how does one click on and 
> activate links in email?  Itried using VO spacebar, VO shift spacebar, and 
> double clicking on the trackpad but no go.  I only was able to hear VO say: 
> hide, and detail, but was not able to figure where VO was getting this.  
> Please help.
> 
> Thanks,
> Johnny Angel!
> beefca...@neo.rr.com
> 
> 
> 
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Activating links in mail

[Johnny Angel!]

Hi all!

I'm sory if this has been covered before, but how does one click on and 
activate links in email?  Itried using VO spacebar, VO shift spacebar, and 
double clicking on the trackpad but no go.  I only was able to hear VO say: 
hide, and detail, but was not able to figure where VO was getting this.  Please 
help.

Thanks,
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Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

[Georges Zaynoun]

The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to 
format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install 
to a none-formatted bootcamp partition.  Bare in mind I am using the 
oem version win7 home premium 32bits.

Original message:

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open bootcamp
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any case,
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, press
alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D
but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. After
that you can press alt + N to go to next and the install should continue.
This will take a while, and if you've got no vision, I'm not sure how you'll
know you're at the setup screen, but at that point you may be able to use
narrator, but in my case I couldn't because I didn't have any sound drivers
installed. Maybe if you left a USB headset plugged in windows would detect
it and install the drivers and then you could use narrator that way.



HTH
Cody
- Original Message -
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this, and
everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my
system and thus won't help me.



If you can tell me step by step what to do, I do have a retail copy of 7
Ultimate, and would absolutely love! to get this working, but every time I
try, I wind up crashing things.



So, yeah, if you can tell me how to do this, it would be awesome!



BTW, I do not have a firewire port on my macbook as it's a white 13 inch mid
2010 model.



I'm running OSX 10.7, Lion.



Thanks.



Chris.



- Original Message -
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Installed Windows7 Alone.




Hi!



Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and
not using the unattended way.



I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook
13inch white from February 2009.



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considering installing windows Vista but would like advice what to watch for

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

After literally years of resisting installing windows Vista on my Mac, I am 
seriously considering actually breaking down, admitting defeat in an effort to 
rescue a windows lap top and actually installing windows Vista on my Mac book 
Pro.  Frankly, I feel like a traitor even thinking about doing that.  IF in 
fact I do this, I'm would use JAWS in it's lap top configuration.  Is there any 
special circumstance I need to look for under Lion while doing this?  I mean 
like assuming I get everything installed correctly.  Thanks.


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Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

[Cody]

You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open bootcamp 
assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough 
for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the 
windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first 
screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any case, 
press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, press 
alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the 
partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then 
format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire 
thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the 
list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D 
but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. After 
that you can press alt + N to go to next and the install should continue. 
This will take a while, and if you've got no vision, I'm not sure how you'll 
know you're at the setup screen, but at that point you may be able to use 
narrator, but in my case I couldn't because I didn't have any sound drivers 
installed. Maybe if you left a USB headset plugged in windows would detect 
it and install the drivers and then you could use narrator that way.


HTH
Cody
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.


Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this, and
everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my
system and thus won't help me.

If you can tell me step by step what to do, I do have a retail copy of 7
Ultimate, and would absolutely love! to get this working, but every time I
try, I wind up crashing things.

So, yeah, if you can tell me how to do this, it would be awesome!

BTW, I do not have a firewire port on my macbook as it's a white 13 inch mid
2010 model.

I'm running OSX 10.7, Lion.

Thanks.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Installed Windows7 Alone.


Hi!

Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and
not using the unattended way.

I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook
13inch white from February 2009.

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Re: charger Compadibility

[Dan Roy]

Ok, yes, I have my macbook now, and, the charger does work.  However, you make 
a valid point about passing on the newer charger.

Right now though, the fan in my Macbook air is going quite fast.  I am hoping 
this is from initial indexing.  I just dropped about 30GB of data on it.

Otherwise, working ok!


On Aug 15, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> While not quite the same setup my MacBook Pro charger works just fine in my 
> wife's old little MacBook and vice versa. Main thing is that her power supply 
> is not quite as big (physically and wattage) so it takes longer to charge up 
> my laptop if I'm using her power supply. I would assume similar things with 
> the Air and your MacBookPro where the Air uses a 45 watt power supply:
> 
> http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html
> 
> While the current MacBookPro has an 85w power supply
> 
> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html
> 
> So I think whomever you passed the MacBookPro along to would appreciate 
> getting the correct larger power supply.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/14/11 7:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> It should be, the macbook pro is a higher wattage charger, so, assuming it 
>> fits, it should work, though of course it won't charge any faster.
>> On Aug 14, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
>> 
>>> I am expecting my new macbook air to arrive tomorrow. Does anybody know if 
>>> the charger from the macbook pro is compatible with the 1 from the macbook 
>>> air.
>>> 
>>> If I do sell the macbook pro, if the chargers are compatible, I can package 
>>> the macbook pro with the brand new charger. Knowing my luck, this won't 
>>> work.  I just wanted to check and see if anyone knew for sure?
>>> 
>>> If this is considered off topic, you can reply to me at:
>>> d...@theroyhouse.com thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh my god, you gotta tell me keystroke by keystorke how to do this as I 
don't have anyone sighted near me who is savvy enough to help with this, and 
everyone I've asked to read the screen seems to think I'm gonna break my 
system and thus won't help me.


If you can tell me step by step what to do, I do have a retail copy of 7 
Ultimate, and would absolutely love! to get this working, but every time I 
try, I wind up crashing things.


So, yeah, if you can tell me how to do this, it would be awesome!

BTW, I do not have a firewire port on my macbook as it's a white 13 inch mid 
2010 model.


I'm running OSX 10.7, Lion.

Thanks.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Georges Zaynoun" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Installed Windows7 Alone.


Hi!

Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and
not using the unattended way.

I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook
13inch white from February 2009.

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Installed Windows7 Alone.

[Georges Zaynoun]

Hi!

Using BootCamp and without sighted help and totally alone I did it and 
not using the unattended way.


I made the partition using BootCamp then using a firewire cable I 
accessed the empty BootCamp partition in target mode and from a Windows 
XP machine I used the quick format to format the BootCamp partition.  
Finally held c down while powering the normal way and pressed enter a 
couple of times and then continued my way with space then enter to 
accept the license, c for custom and confirmed it with enter.  The 
instructions I have for installing a retail version didn't work exactly 
on the oem version dvd I used since I had to repeat the installation 
several times before it worked, I didn't have anybody to read me the 
screens but I relied on my previos knowledge, anyhow it worked.  On 
second restart it is totally unattended by itself and I already had usb 
headset, third restart came the speech with command-u.  I used BootCamp 
to download the drivers and burn them to a cd and it was a MacBook 
13inch white from February 2009.


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Re: Safari busy.

[carlene knight]

When I'm experiencing this, My sighted husband tells me that sometimes  the 
Voiceover cursor gets stuck in a bblank space, or tries to focus where there's 
nothing.  Since getting more memory and upgrading to Lion, I've had this 
problem less.
On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> The only sometimes solution I have found to this very annoying problem is 
> shutting off VO for about half a minute, then putting it back on.  About 75 
> to 80 percent of the time, it works.  I also get "finder busy" and "mail 
> busy" announcements, though not as frequently as Safari. It's the most 
> maddening thing I've found about using a Mac since I got mine in February.
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> 
>> I have a feeling some have discussed this, feel free to point me to anything 
>> relevant. I keep getting Safari busy problems and they have started driving 
>> me mad. I use Safari 5.1 with Lion. To replicate the problem, go to 
>> http://startpage.com (an awesome search engine) and type in a query and 
>> submit it. On the page of results, hit Command-r to reload the page. It'll 
>> ask you if you want to resubmit the form, you do. It'll lock up after a few 
>> times. If you can get to the html area it acts all weird, difficult to 
>> navigate and unresponsive. I have even gone so far as to do a clean install 
>> of Lion on my MacBook Air, then restoring from time machine, but that didn't 
>> fix the problem. Any ideas?
>> 
>> - Austin
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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

[Ray Foret Jr]

Well, not being familure with either one, I couldn't say.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Wonder if it does anything that cocktail and onyx will not do.
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker 
>> Tool, which can be found here:
>> 
>> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
>> 
>> This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to 
>> have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other 
>> manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a 
>> nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Mike Arrigo]

This probably connects to the thunderbolt port, I don't think you can use most 
adapters in the hdmi port, it's just for high definition.
On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Joe Paton wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> it's an AppleMini-DP to VGA Adapter
> Part Number:MB572Z/A
> At 17:54 15/08/2011, you wrote:
>> no dvd or cd drive, no this is not a surprise! the mac app store wil be 
>> causing all macs to not have a superdrive very soon.
>> this is funny!
>> what adapter do you have connected to your mac mini?
>> i need to have a monitor connected to mine.
>> thanks
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Re: versioning in text edit and Dropbox

[Jessica and Goldina]

hey Mark

thanks so much! going to the window chooser after VO spacing on browse all 
versions did the trick. I was able to see the vertical splitter and restore 
back to a new version. so neat!

and regarding the dock…did I say VO space? urgh…I meant VO d lol. my mind was 
clearly somewhere else! but that problem is fixed too. when I used the window 
chooser to bring up the versions control, selected a new version and quit text 
edit, I was able to use VO d to get to the dock. I'm thinking the reason I 
couldn't before maybe had something to do with me not doing anything with the 
versions control window which was in the background? I'm not sure why that 
would make a difference but it all works since using the window chooser to 
access the versions control! thanks!
peace and positivity
Jessica and Goldina
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On 2011-08-14, at 7:04 PM, Jeffrey Wheatley wrote:

> Is it possible to disable versioning with Text Edit when saving to Drop Box?
> 
> Regards, Jeff
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Marc Workman wrote:
> 
>> Jessica,
>> 
>> That's right.  The version browsing controls do not come up automatically 
>> for me either.  I feel like it used to when I first played around with 
>> versioning after Lion first came out, but perhaps not.  At any rate, you can 
>> find the vertical slider byVO spacing on the "Browse all Versions" button, 
>> and then after you are taken back to the main window, bring up the window 
>> chooser with VO F2 twice.  You will then want to look for "Version Browsing 
>> Controls", and there you will find the vertical slider.
>> 
>> I'm not sure about using VO space to get to the Doc.  I use VO D to get to 
>> the Doc.
>> 
>> I don't have Pages, but I know versioning and auto saving can be included in 
>> applications by developers, so I would be surprised if it weren't in Pages.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Marc doesn't come up for me either.
>> On 2011-08-11, at 7:08 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote:
>> 
>>> hi Paul,
>>> 
>>> I've been playing with versions a lot today trying to get the hang of it 
>>> myself. it definitely looks like a neat feature! but I can't seem to get it 
>>> to work. I get what you mean about saving a version, but when I go to the 
>>> "browse all versions" and VO space, it just gets sluggish for a minute and 
>>> then brings me back to the main window where my text is. I don't see the 
>>> vertical splitter you use to pick a version. is versions on by default? I'm 
>>> thinking it is because when I pressed command s it said "saving version." 
>>> but I can't seem to find the vertical splitter to select a different 
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> also, and this may just be my system, after I quit text edit after playing 
>>> with versions, I can no longer use VO space to get to the dock. it just 
>>> dings at me until I unload and reload voiceover! very strange!
>>> 
>>> is it possible to use versions in pages or just text edit? I didn't see the 
>>> option in pages.
>>> thanks!
>>> peace and positivity
>>> Jessica and Goldina
>>> follow me on Twitter:
>>> http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
>>> 
>>> On 2011-08-11, at 5:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Bless you!  I absolutely never would have looked for it there.  thanks!
 Donna
 
 On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Marc Workman wrote:
 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> It is already possible to disable the lock feature.
> 
> Go to system preferences, then time machine, then options.  You will find 
> a "lock documents" check box.  There is also a pop up button where you 
> can change how much time has to elapse before a document is locked.
> 
> You don't actually have to be using time machine, so it is a little 
> strange to find it there, but that's where it is.
> 
> Paul, I find auto saving and versioning a little puzzling myself, but I 
> can offer a few comments.
> 
> First, you need to know that there is a distinction between these two 
> things.  In your experiment, you didn't actually create versions.  I'm 
> not even sure it was auto saving so much as resuming where you were when 
> you left off.
> 
> Auto saving is when the application will automatically save the current 
> version, and it happens at regular intervals and when you pause to do 
> something else like check email.
> 
> When you create a version though, you make the equivalent of another 
> document.  And I believe this will happen automatically as well after a 
> certain interval, but you can also force the saving of a version by using 
> command S.
> 
> So here's an example and a test you can perform.  I open a document at 
> 4:00 and use command S to give it a name and put it in the folder I want 
> it in.  I work on it for half an hour, and that whole time it is auto 
> saving all my changes.  I hit command S again, and I proceed to make a 
> bunch of changes to what I

Re: bad Arrow Key behavior with VO

[Mike Arrigo]

Sounds like you have quick nav turned on, press the left and right arrow keys 
at the same time to turn this off.
On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Here's the situation:
> 1.  Launch TextEdit.
> 2.  Just start typing A  B C D.
> 3.  Hit the left arrow key.
> 4.  On my Mac Mini, I hear the insertion point move over the letter D.  But 
> on my new Air, VO jumps to the ruler.
> 
> Why is VO jumping when focus is on the edit area of text edit.  This behavior 
> seems to happen on other text edit areas in other applications, but TextEdit 
> is the easiest to see.
> 
> I've imported the VO settings on the Air from the Mac  Mini, so the VO 
> settings should be identical on both machines..  Both computers are running 
> Snow Leopard.
> 
> Any ideas?
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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Mike Arrigo]

I just tried this with a 2009 mac mini running lion, it worked in mail and text 
edit, though voiceover was much less responsive, but it was better than snow 
leppard, anyone running lion on a mini may want to try this and see how it 
works a bit more.
On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> If true this would be a great thing. In the past the mini has fruitlessly 
> search for a monitor when not connected to one, bogging down the system in 
> the process. Maybe the server version is different since it might often times 
> be sitting in a rack 'headless'.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/15/11 11:29 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
>> Are you using the newest model?  I got an email from apple telling me the
>> new ones worked fine without a monitor.  Wil find out today, waiting for
>> delvery on my mini server version.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:00 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: mac mini 2011 info
>> 
>> Hi, David,
>> 
>> The Mac Mini used to work with an adapter plugged into the monitor port, but
>> no longer, especially with Safari, the web browser. VO does not read web
>> pages properly and gives unending "busy" messages. I haven't experimented
>> with other applications, but I use the web so much that it's not worth it to
>> me to try it without a monitor. I love the small amount of space it takes up
>> on my desk, but it's not truly portable in that way.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:50 AM, David Geiger wrote:
>> 
>>> hi guys  if any one can help me  i am thinking about getting a mac
>>> mini 2011  i want to know if i can use it with out a monitor  and will
>>> voice over work  with out a monitor i have tried it a little with out
>>> one hooked but not enough to know if it works  good or not  hope to
>>> get a reply soon looking to buy soon thank you
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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Mike Arrigo]

Yes, do let us know on this, it would be nice if they no longer required a 
monitor.
On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

> Are you using the newest model?  I got an email from apple telling me the
> new ones worked fine without a monitor.  Wil find out today, waiting for
> delvery on my mini server version.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mac mini 2011 info
> 
> Hi, David,
> 
> The Mac Mini used to work with an adapter plugged into the monitor port, but
> no longer, especially with Safari, the web browser. VO does not read web
> pages properly and gives unending "busy" messages. I haven't experimented
> with other applications, but I use the web so much that it's not worth it to
> me to try it without a monitor. I love the small amount of space it takes up
> on my desk, but it's not truly portable in that way.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:50 AM, David Geiger wrote:
> 
>> hi guys  if any one can help me  i am thinking about getting a mac
>> mini 2011  i want to know if i can use it with out a monitor  and will
>> voice over work  with out a monitor i have tried it a little with out
>> one hooked but not enough to know if it works  good or not  hope to
>> get a reply soon looking to buy soon thank you
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Mike Arrigo]

The macbook air does not have a dvd drive or ethernet port, this may not be an 
issue for you, but it's something to be aware of.
On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> There is a noticeable difference in sound from a macbook air to a macbook 
> pro.  But this is to be expected on a smaller machine.  Sound is so poor in 
> my opinion, headphones will come in handy a lot.  Especially in noisy public 
> environments.  As far as performance, I don't think you will see any 
> difference at all.  From following your post the last couple years, you don't 
> seem to do many resource intensive tasks like audio production, or anything 
> like that.  I think you could probably even be able to make do with the 
> standard 11 inch air.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Aug 14, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
>> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling 
>> out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of the new ones, 
>> with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ 
>> processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can 
>> give me an accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models.  
>> A couple of the things I'm wondering about are:
>> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
>> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
>> compensate, at least to some extent.
>> 
>> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the two 
>> compare.
>> 
>> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either good 
>> or bad, I'd love to hear.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can 
>> live with.
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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

[Mike Arrigo]

Wonder if it does anything that cocktail and onyx will not do.
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> Hi,
> 
> The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker 
> Tool, which can be found here:
> 
> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
> 
> This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to 
> have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other 
> manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a 
> nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

[Ray Foret Jr]

Very nice tool it is too.


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On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:25 PM, james walton wrote:

> Because it's not in the app store,
> It's located here
>>> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:21 PM, craig J Dunlop  wrote:
> 
>> i cant find tinker tools in the app store .
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker 
>>> Tool, which can be found here:
>>> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
>>> 
>>> This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to 
>>> have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other 
>>> manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a 
>>> nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

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No,  you need to go to the site I sent you.


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On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:21 PM, craig J Dunlop wrote:

> i cant find tinker tools in the app store .
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker 
>> Tool, which can be found here:
>> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
>> 
>> This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to 
>> have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other 
>> manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a 
>> nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple certifications, and/or obtaining qualification to instruct.

[erik burggraaf]

Hi fangirl,

I teach mac and offer it as an accessible technology on my web site.  I've 
never had formal training on mac systems but I feel confident offering mac 
training because I follow these groups an use one every day.  I know most 
things about macs that an off-netter would want to know.  I walked into an 
apple store and asked where to go to get voiceover certified so that I could 
work for the apple store doing voiceover training and they referred me to a 
third party training centre.  I haven't followed up with them since the 
standards are so low here that anyone can train and I don't want to fork out 
thousands of dollars on training courses for the paltry dollars that are 
actually being paid for trainers.  It's a sad situation we have here, but I 
hope others have better luck.

Best,

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On 2011-08-14, at 10:33 PM, ShamelessFanGirl wrote:

> Good evening all, and a very happy, though I'll be it late casual sunday for 
> the TA folks. :)
> 
> I'm cross-posting this, because I would like as many differing points-of-view 
> as possible
> 
> The subject says it all for the most-part. Have any of you taken the plunge, 
> and either gone for your Apple certs, or do you instruct from a VO/OSX/IOS 
> perspective? What was the journey like, is accessibility on the Mac ready for 
> this kind of undertaking? And lastly, how receptive, is the market for the 
> implementation of all things apple into the arena of AT politics, for those 
> of you who instruct? I'm interested in both areas, and so am curious to hear 
> from those of you who have already gone there what it was like, which doors 
> to open, and how to get this off the ground.
> 
> I've been using my Mac full-time for just over 3 months now, so undoubtedly 
> have a lot still to learn, however, the experience has been such an enjoyable 
> one for me, that I want to, if possible, take that to the next level. After 
> all, some people learn better in a seeing is believing environment, and to 
> the best of my knowledge, there isn't a lot of that available to the 
> potentially new visually impaired switcher.
> 
> Thanks for reading all, and if this is all even slightly OT for these lists, 
> too broad, etc, feel free to contact me offlist. Thanks for reading my toam, 
> and in advance for any/all input regarding my lil endeavor.
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Sorry just a test!

[Red.Falcon]

Sorry this is a test! Been having trouble
Colin

On 15 Aug 2011, at 23:46, Jes Smith wrote:

> I appreciate the tip, and I tried that. Still, no success.
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jes,
>> 
>> You change the spacing in the Inspector.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 15:40, Jes Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> Whenever I select a blank template under word processing, and try to change 
>>> the spacing from single to double, the popup menu is dimmed. Why is this 
>>> and how can I fix it?
>>> Jes
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Re: Question about Pages and double spacing?

[Jes Smith]

I appreciate the tip, and I tried that. Still, no success.

On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Jes,
> 
> You change the spacing in the Inspector.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On 15 Aug 2011, at 15:40, Jes Smith wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> Whenever I select a blank template under word processing, and try to change 
>> the spacing from single to double, the popup menu is dimmed. Why is this and 
>> how can I fix it?
>> Jes
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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

[james walton]

No problem

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:38 PM, craig J Dunlop  wrote:

thanks don't know why I didn't think of that.

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:25 PM, james walton wrote:

Because it's not in the app store,
It's located here

 
http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:21 PM, craig J Dunlop  wrote:

i cant find tinker tools in the app store .

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Hi,

The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker
Tool, which can be found here:
 
http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html

This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to
have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other
manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a
nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.


 Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

[craig J Dunlop]

thanks don't know why I didn't think of that.

On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:25 PM, james walton wrote:

> Because it's not in the app store,
> It's located here
>>> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:21 PM, craig J Dunlop  wrote:
> 
>> i cant find tinker tools in the app store .
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker 
>>> Tool, which can be found here:
>>> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
>>> 
>>> This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to 
>>> have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other 
>>> manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a 
>>> nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Safari busy.

[Christine Grassman]

The only sometimes solution I have found to this very annoying problem is 
shutting off VO for about half a minute, then putting it back on.  About 75 to 
80 percent of the time, it works.  I also get "finder busy" and "mail busy" 
announcements, though not as frequently as Safari. It's the most maddening 
thing I've found about using a Mac since I got mine in February.
On Aug 15, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> I have a feeling some have discussed this, feel free to point me to anything 
> relevant. I keep getting Safari busy problems and they have started driving 
> me mad. I use Safari 5.1 with Lion. To replicate the problem, go to 
> http://startpage.com (an awesome search engine) and type in a query and 
> submit it. On the page of results, hit Command-r to reload the page. It'll 
> ask you if you want to resubmit the form, you do. It'll lock up after a few 
> times. If you can get to the html area it acts all weird, difficult to 
> navigate and unresponsive. I have even gone so far as to do a clean install 
> of Lion on my MacBook Air, then restoring from time machine, but that didn't 
> fix the problem. Any ideas?
> 
> - Austin
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[james Walton]

i know this!
i have one in my desktop.
i was just clarifying, i was confused about what you were talking about earlier

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[james walton]

I know this!
I was just clarifying


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:25 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

James, and ssd is a hardcrive replacement.  The SSD is 2 or three times the
speed of a SATA harddrive, but since a ram bus is about 5 times faster again
the drive is still the bottleneck even though it's much faster on SSD.

Best,

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On 2011-08-15, at 3:59 PM, james Walton wrote:

what do you mean hard drive?
do you have an ssd and an hdd in a macbook pro?

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captioning and audio discription creation tools?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi all,
A grand while I think? I posted here about some mac based tools for adding 
captioning and audio descriptions to our own line video.  Think more long 
firm class materials than say something on youtube.
I cannot find it again though, I think it came from the u. s. captioning 
center.

Anyway, anyone have some ideas and tools for doing this?
There is a company asking me about it as an accommodation, and I promise 
them I would gather ideas.

Thanks,
Karen

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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

[james walton]

Because it's not in the app store,
It's located here

http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:21 PM, craig J Dunlop  wrote:

i cant find tinker tools in the app store .

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Hi,

The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker
Tool, which can be found here:
http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html

This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to
have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other
manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a
nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 




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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[erik burggraaf]

James, and ssd is a hardcrive replacement.  The SSD is 2 or three times the 
speed of a SATA harddrive, but since a ram bus is about 5 times faster again 
the drive is still the bottleneck even though it's much faster on SSD.

Best,

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On 2011-08-15, at 3:59 PM, james Walton wrote:

> what do you mean hard drive?
> do you have an ssd and an hdd in a macbook pro?
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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

[craig J Dunlop]

i cant find tinker tools in the app store .

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker 
> Tool, which can be found here:
> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
> 
> This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to 
> have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other 
> manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a 
> nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Routing input from multiple sounds cards on a Mac mini

[Frank Ventura]

JP thanks that may be a good idea but I would like to change inputs from
another place in the room and would be using a Wireless keyboard. I
don't think there are any remote control mixers, but I could be wrong.
Frank

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Routing input from multiple sounds cards on a Mac mini

Hello Frank,

Wouldn't you be better off with a small mixer? You could more easily
control audio output and tonal quality if desired via hardware controls.

Thanks,

JP
At 14:04 15/08/2011, you wrote:
>Hello all, I would like to know if there is a means or a piece of 
>software to take input from several USb sound cards attached to a Mac 
>and route it to another audio device (probably another USB sound card) 
>for output? For example if I had three USB sound cards attached, each 
>with an audio input is there some means of switching from one to 
>another and routing that selection to another sound card for output? 
>Also is there a limit to the number of USB sound devices attached?
>Thanks
>Frank
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Setting up file Sharing, Was: Re: found a solution for command k not working dialog

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Paul,

What I want to know is I'm running XP Pro over here.  Where on XP do I need 
to go to make sure things are correctly set for me to connect to my machine 
from my macbook?  I have my workgroup set, and am not using the standard 
Workgroup name of... quote: workgroup, end quote, as to me, that's not 
secure enough.  I know the I P address of my system, so that's no issue.


I've always had issues connecting my macbook to my Windows PC and vice 
versa.  I'm done it maybe once or twice, but I don't remember how I've set 
it up, and this machine's been reformatted on the Windows side since then.


Basically, I want to access my entire C drive on my windows machine both 
with read and write access trustees, from my mac, and I'd like from my 
windows machine, to also have read/write trustee access to my Macintosh HD 
volume, or if nothing else, at bare least, read access.


Thanks for the help.

Chris.
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From: "Paul Erkens" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 2:28 PM
Subject: found a solution for command k not working dialog


Hi list,

If you encounter the following problem under Lion, I may have found a 
solution by pure luck.


Problem:
Under snow leopard, I could access a share point on an xp machine. I did 
this by pressing command plus k on the mac. A dialog would appear, asking 
the address of the server to connect to, the user name and password for the 
windows user account to log in to on the windows server machine, and which 
shares to mount from the windows machine on to the mac. If this sounds 
familiar to you, then read on.


Under Lion however, this same procedure, i.e. trying to log in to my windows 
machine from my mac, won't work any longer. I don't know why, but I do know 
how to work around it.


In the command k dialog, you normally enter the protocol to use, followed by 
the netbios name of the windows machine. Say that the windows machine that I 
want to log in to from my mac is called paulserver, then from my mac, I 
would issue a command k, and then type in:

smb://paulserver
and press enter. The connect button is the default command button in the 
connect to server dialog, so just pressing enter after typing where to 
connect to will do, without having to go through the rest of the dialog.
The smb:// prefix is just the way that you tell your mac how to approach the 
windows pc. It will be familiar to many of us, because on the internet, You 
use the http protocol to ask a page from a web server, and therefore you 
normally start the address with http://. Likewise, you can approach an ftp 
server using the prefix: ftp://. A windows machine uses a microsoft 
protocol, and from what I remember from reading about the unix world, these 
guys call the windows networking protocol samba. S a m b a. Its prefix is 
therefore named smb://.


Under Lion, the netbios name of the windows computer seems to be the 
problem. If you simply replace that name with the ip address of that same 
computer, the mac command k dialog suddenly works. I saw an interesting 
message on this list, how you could mount a windows share on the mac using 
terminal. However, I am not at all familiar with terminal yet. And while I 
was frighing my hamburger, it occurred to me that I could just as well try 
the ip address rather than the netbios pc name, and this seems to do it.


By the way if you don't know the ip address of your windows box, do the 
following on windows: start your command prompt. There, type

ipconfig
and press enter. That is: i p c o n f i g.
Windows will tell you the ip address of the windows box, along with a few 
other bits of information. You need the ip address, not the gateway address. 
To close your windows command prompt, type exit on a new line and the window 
will close. In the mac command k dialog, now use
smb:// directly followed by your windows pc's ip address and hit enter. Now, 
you can log in normally.


So ,if you previously connected to a windows pc from your mac using the 
method I described and it won't do it any longer under Lion, I hope this is 
the solution for you as well. Any extra bits of knowledge around this topic 
are highly welcome.


Paul.

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[james Walton]

yes it does

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

Does the 13 inch MBA have a card reader?
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On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hey Chris,
> 
> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB 
> drive most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.
> 
> That 11-inch Air is *really calling my name.  I would have given anything 
> to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big enough that 
> I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see why you're 
> sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful device.  
> And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, I'd be all 
> over it!
> 
>  I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
> see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point.  So I 
> don't know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more plane travel 
> coming up over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be able to take the 
> Air.  I'd definitely use it, I know that, but it's a luxury, not a necessity. 
>  Bt … lol
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is 
>> that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle 
>> instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
>> 
>> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
>> 
>> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
>> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
>> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I 
>> want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mika,
>>> 
>>> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard 
>>> drive, faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in 
>>> ethernet, DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also has 
>>> better sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net 
>>> via usb, but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to 
>>> haul around.  The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a more 
>>> powerful computer, with more features built-in.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
>>> 
 What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as 
 opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
 
 Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of 
 the machine, etc?
 
 Thanks,
 Mika
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
 
 I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
 the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
 the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
 could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
 session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
 the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
 backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
 vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to 
> haul around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my 
> MBP to and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, 
> and all those buildings are different from the building where my office 
> is.  So I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille 
> display.
> 
> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So 
> I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting 
> the low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't 
>> that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags 
>> with a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally 
>> picked up one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very 
>> comfortable and more pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 
>> to find out. It's been several 

Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

>From my understanding, the MBA is almost as fast as the MBP, since it uses a 
>SSD, witch is flash, and allows data to load faster.  But yes, the mbp does 
>allow to add more ram and a bigger hard drive.  I was told that the processor 
>speck doesn't really matter since the SSD loads significantly faster.  JMO
Kliphton SR
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On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Mika,
> 
> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard drive, 
> faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in ethernet, 
> DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also has better 
> sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net via usb, 
> but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to haul around.  
> The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a more powerful 
> computer, with more features built-in.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
> 
>> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as opposed 
>> to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
>> 
>> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of the 
>> machine, etc?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mika
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>> 
>> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
>> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
>> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
>> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
>> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
>> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
>> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
>> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul 
>>> around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to 
>>> and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, and all 
>>> those buildings are different from the building where my office is.  So 
>>> I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display.
>>> 
>>> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So 
>>> I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting the 
>>> low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
 Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't 
 that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags with 
 a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally picked up 
 one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very comfortable and 
 more pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's 
 been several years now but the one I got is still available:
 
 http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
 
 Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you 
 have to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess 
 it's no worse than many web shopping carts.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering 
> shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of 
> the new ones, with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, 
> running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's 
> anyone on list who can give me an accurate comparison of the user 
> experience on these two models.  A couple of the things I'm wondering 
> about are:
> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
> compensate, at least to some extent.
> 
> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the 
> two compare.
> 
> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either 
> good or bad, I'd love to hear.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can 
> live with.
> 
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RE: mac mini 2011 info

[Bill Holton]

Yes, they were turne don, but as I learned, if you buy the keyboard and
trackpad with the computer they mate easily.  If not you have to find the
Bluetooth menu.


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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac mini 2011 info

So just to check the obvious, was the mouse and keyboard turned on? 
There is a little switch on the bottom of the mouse and a button to push 
in on the right edge of the cyliner part of the keyboard. Batteries go 
in the other end of the cylinder bump end first.

CB

On 8/15/11 2:11 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
> Just tried setting my new Mini up.  Even after my wife went throught he
> setup with the mouse it won't pair with my blue tooth keyboard, an Apple,
or
> the track pad.  And I can't seem to get the MS keyboard I have with USB to
> start Voiceover.  Grrr.
>
>

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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Chris Blouch]

So just to check the obvious, was the mouse and keyboard turned on? 
There is a little switch on the bottom of the mouse and a button to push 
in on the right edge of the cyliner part of the keyboard. Batteries go 
in the other end of the cylinder bump end first.


CB

On 8/15/11 2:11 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Just tried setting my new Mini up.  Even after my wife went throught he
setup with the mouse it won't pair with my blue tooth keyboard, an Apple, or
the track pad.  And I can't seem to get the MS keyboard I have with USB to
start Voiceover.  Grrr.




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Re: found a solution for command k not working dialog

[Chris Blouch]

Windows uses Server Message Block protocol or SMB for file and printer 
sharing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block

There was an effort to make an open source SMB server/client package 
called Samba which was ported to many platforms including OSX.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba_(software)

CB

On 8/15/11 2:28 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

Hi list,

If you encounter the following problem under Lion, I may have found a solution 
by pure luck.

Problem:
Under snow leopard, I could access a share point on an xp machine. I did this 
by pressing command plus k on the mac. A dialog would appear, asking the 
address of the server to connect to, the user name and password for the windows 
user account to log in to on the windows server machine, and which shares to 
mount from the windows machine on to the mac. If this sounds familiar to you, 
then read on.

Under Lion however, this same procedure, i.e. trying to log in to my windows 
machine from my mac, won't work any longer. I don't know why, but I do know how 
to work around it.

In the command k dialog, you normally enter the protocol to use, followed by 
the netbios name of the windows machine. Say that the windows machine that I 
want to log in to from my mac is called paulserver, then from my mac, I would 
issue a command k, and then type in:
smb://paulserver
and press enter. The connect button is the default command button in the 
connect to server dialog, so just pressing enter after typing where to connect 
to will do, without having to go through the rest of the dialog.
The smb:// prefix is just the way that you tell your mac how to approach the 
windows pc. It will be familiar to many of us, because on the internet, You use 
the http protocol to ask a page from a web server, and therefore you normally 
start the address with http://. Likewise, you can approach an ftp server using 
the prefix: ftp://. A windows machine uses a microsoft protocol, and from what 
I remember from reading about the unix world, these guys call the windows 
networking protocol samba. S a m b a. Its prefix is therefore named smb://.

Under Lion, the netbios name of the windows computer seems to be the problem. 
If you simply replace that name with the ip address of that same computer, the 
mac command k dialog suddenly works. I saw an interesting message on this list, 
how you could mount a windows share on the mac using terminal. However, I am 
not at all familiar with terminal yet. And while I was frighing my hamburger, 
it occurred to me that I could just as well try the ip address rather than the 
netbios pc name, and this seems to do it.

By the way if you don't know the ip address of your windows box, do the 
following on windows: start your command prompt. There, type
ipconfig
and press enter. That is: i p c o n f i g.
Windows will tell you the ip address of the windows box, along with a few other 
bits of information. You need the ip address, not the gateway address. To close 
your windows command prompt, type exit on a new line and the window will close. 
In the mac command k dialog, now use
smb:// directly followed by your windows pc's ip address and hit enter. Now, 
you can log in normally.

So ,if you previously connected to a windows pc from your mac using the method 
I described and it won't do it any longer under Lion, I hope this is the 
solution for you as well. Any extra bits of knowledge around this topic are 
highly welcome.

Paul.



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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[james Walton]

what do you mean hard drive?
do you have an ssd and an hdd in a macbook pro?

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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[james Walton]

not that i know of no there is no way to do this.

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[erik burggraaf]

The SSD picks things up a bit, but the drives they are using aren't maximum 
read-write speeds.  You'll be ecstatic with the stability, battery life, and 
boot time, but even with the slower processor the harddrive will still be the 
bottleneck in your system.  I'm not saying it doesn't help.  I love my SSD, but 
it's not quite the performance booster I thought it would be.  Serious 
contribution to stability, and boottime is just amazing, but my apps don't run 
very noticeably faster, particularly max wav to mp3 encoding and lossie file 
conversions which I thought would be insanely fast on an SSD.  Maybe they are a 
second or two faster encoding a 600 mb wav file down to a 50 mb mp3, but the 
bottleneck is still the harddrive.

Best,

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On 2011-08-15, at 3:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Mika,
> 
> I believe there's a program called DVD Remaster that does that, though I 
> haven't tried it.  In the long-term, your definitely right, I suspect 
> there'll come a time not all that far off when having a DVD drive will seem 
> as obsolete as having a floppy drive does now.  But for me anyway, that time 
> hasn't quite arrived yet.  But, as with Chris's mention of the lack of an SD 
> card slot, this is a question of personal preference and usage.
> 
> The processor question is a tricky one.  The processor on the MBA is slower 
> than that on the MBP.  But the solid state drive should make up for a lot of 
> the difference there.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
> 
>> As for a DVD drive, is it easy say to copy a movie over to the hard drive of 
>> say a MacBook Air, so that you don't need a DVD drive on the road?
>> 
>> I just am thinking of this as software increasingly moves to being acquired 
>> through a platform like the Mac app store.
>> 
>> I'm just not sure, for me, why it would be important now a days to have a 
>> built in DVD drive?
>> 
>> Things like the processor, sound, etc. are more important in the uses I 
>> would tend to have.  I'm not sure also on the MBA that just came out how 
>> much of an improvement the processor is, etc.
>> 
>> BTW I now have the 11 inch MBA (the model just before the most recent 
>> release), bought in early 2011.  I still found I mostly used Jaws, mainly 
>> because I'm still more efficient browsing the web under Jaws and for 
>> Qwitter, though I have not really spent the necessary time to learn the Mac 
>> ways of doing things.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> mika
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:05 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>> 
>> Hey Chris,
>> 
>> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB 
>> drive most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.
>> 
>> That 11-inch Air is *really calling my name.  I would have given 
>> anything to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big 
>> enough that I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see 
>> why you're sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful 
>> device.  And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, 
>> I'd be all over it!
>> 
>> I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
>> see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point.  So I 
>> don't know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more plane travel 
>> coming up over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be able to take the 
>> Air.  I'd definitely use it, I know that, but it's a luxury, not a 
>> necessity.  Bt ... lol
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> 
>>> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is 
>>> that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle 
>>> instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
>>> 
>>> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
>>> 
>>> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
>>> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
>>> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I 
>>> want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Mika,
 
 The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard 
 drive, faster processor,

RE: mac mini 2011 info

[Bill Holton]

That was my problem exactly.  On the Mac keyboard the command keys are just
to the sides of the spacebar, on the PC keyboard they are reversed.  Don't
suppose there is any way to get the PC keyboard to do it the same way the
mac keyboard does?


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of james Walton
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 2:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac mini 2011 info

if you are using a windows keyboard, it is windows f5
windows being command

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Mika,

I believe there's a program called DVD Remaster that does that, though I 
haven't tried it.  In the long-term, your definitely right, I suspect there'll 
come a time not all that far off when having a DVD drive will seem as obsolete 
as having a floppy drive does now.  But for me anyway, that time hasn't quite 
arrived yet.  But, as with Chris's mention of the lack of an SD card slot, this 
is a question of personal preference and usage.

The processor question is a tricky one.  The processor on the MBA is slower 
than that on the MBP.  But the solid state drive should make up for a lot of 
the difference there.
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:

> As for a DVD drive, is it easy say to copy a movie over to the hard drive of 
> say a MacBook Air, so that you don't need a DVD drive on the road?
> 
> I just am thinking of this as software increasingly moves to being acquired 
> through a platform like the Mac app store.
> 
> I'm just not sure, for me, why it would be important now a days to have a 
> built in DVD drive?
> 
> Things like the processor, sound, etc. are more important in the uses I would 
> tend to have.  I'm not sure also on the MBA that just came out how much of an 
> improvement the processor is, etc.
> 
> BTW I now have the 11 inch MBA (the model just before the most recent 
> release), bought in early 2011.  I still found I mostly used Jaws, mainly 
> because I'm still more efficient browsing the web under Jaws and for Qwitter, 
> though I have not really spent the necessary time to learn the Mac ways of 
> doing things.
> 
> 
> Best,
> mika
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:05 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
> 
> Hey Chris,
> 
> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB 
> drive most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.
> 
> That 11-inch Air is *really calling my name.  I would have given anything 
> to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big enough that 
> I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see why you're 
> sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful device.  
> And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, I'd be all 
> over it!
> 
>  I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
> see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point.  So I 
> don't know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more plane travel 
> coming up over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be able to take the 
> Air.  I'd definitely use it, I know that, but it's a luxury, not a necessity. 
>  Bt ... lol
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is 
>> that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle 
>> instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
>> 
>> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
>> 
>> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
>> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
>> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I 
>> want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mika,
>>> 
>>> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard 
>>> drive, faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in 
>>> ethernet, DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also has 
>>> better sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net 
>>> via usb, but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to 
>>> haul around.  The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a more 
>>> powerful computer, with more features built-in.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
>>> 
 What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as 
 opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
 
 Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of 
 the machine, etc?
 
 Thanks,
 Mika
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
 
 I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
 the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
 the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) t

Re: found a solution for command k not working dialog

[james Walton]

i got that to work just fine
did my bios name and it worked perfectly!
did not need the ip address!

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found a solution for command k not working dialog

[Paul Erkens]

Hi list,

If you encounter the following problem under Lion, I may have found a solution 
by pure luck.

Problem:
Under snow leopard, I could access a share point on an xp machine. I did this 
by pressing command plus k on the mac. A dialog would appear, asking the 
address of the server to connect to, the user name and password for the windows 
user account to log in to on the windows server machine, and which shares to 
mount from the windows machine on to the mac. If this sounds familiar to you, 
then read on.

Under Lion however, this same procedure, i.e. trying to log in to my windows 
machine from my mac, won't work any longer. I don't know why, but I do know how 
to work around it.

In the command k dialog, you normally enter the protocol to use, followed by 
the netbios name of the windows machine. Say that the windows machine that I 
want to log in to from my mac is called paulserver, then from my mac, I would 
issue a command k, and then type in:
smb://paulserver
and press enter. The connect button is the default command button in the 
connect to server dialog, so just pressing enter after typing where to connect 
to will do, without having to go through the rest of the dialog.
The smb:// prefix is just the way that you tell your mac how to approach the 
windows pc. It will be familiar to many of us, because on the internet, You use 
the http protocol to ask a page from a web server, and therefore you normally 
start the address with http://. Likewise, you can approach an ftp server using 
the prefix: ftp://. A windows machine uses a microsoft protocol, and from what 
I remember from reading about the unix world, these guys call the windows 
networking protocol samba. S a m b a. Its prefix is therefore named smb://.

Under Lion, the netbios name of the windows computer seems to be the problem. 
If you simply replace that name with the ip address of that same computer, the 
mac command k dialog suddenly works. I saw an interesting message on this list, 
how you could mount a windows share on the mac using terminal. However, I am 
not at all familiar with terminal yet. And while I was frighing my hamburger, 
it occurred to me that I could just as well try the ip address rather than the 
netbios pc name, and this seems to do it. 

By the way if you don't know the ip address of your windows box, do the 
following on windows: start your command prompt. There, type
ipconfig
and press enter. That is: i p c o n f i g.
Windows will tell you the ip address of the windows box, along with a few other 
bits of information. You need the ip address, not the gateway address. To close 
your windows command prompt, type exit on a new line and the window will close. 
In the mac command k dialog, now use
smb:// directly followed by your windows pc's ip address and hit enter. Now, 
you can log in normally.

So ,if you previously connected to a windows pc from your mac using the method 
I described and it won't do it any longer under Lion, I hope this is the 
solution for you as well. Any extra bits of knowledge around this topic are 
highly welcome.

Paul.

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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[james Walton]

if you are using a windows keyboard, it is windows f5
windows being command

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RE: mac mini 2011 info

[Bill Holton]

Just tried setting my new Mini up.  Even after my wife went throught he
setup with the mouse it won't pair with my blue tooth keyboard, an Apple, or
the track pad.  And I can't seem to get the MS keyboard I have with USB to
start Voiceover.  Grrr.


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Re: Access Keys Not Working on Websites with Safari 5.1?

[ShamelessFanGirl]

I just tried them on twitter.com and a few other sites, and they seem to be 
fine here. Hmm, will continue to play, and keep you posted however. I hadn't 
used them all that much until this mail, so thanks for yet another valuable 
resource. :) Makes web navigation even more efficient.
On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, folk,
> 
> I was trying to use control-1, 2, etc. on Facebook and it doesn't work. Any 
> ideas? The tool tip says that these things still have access keys, so I think 
> it's either safari or VO that are the factors here.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
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Safari busy.

[Austin Seraphin]

I have a feeling some have discussed this, feel free to point me to anything 
relevant. I keep getting Safari busy problems and they have started driving me 
mad. I use Safari 5.1 with Lion. To replicate the problem, go to 
http://startpage.com (an awesome search engine) and type in a query and submit 
it. On the page of results, hit Command-r to reload the page. It'll ask you if 
you want to resubmit the form, you do. It'll lock up after a few times. If you 
can get to the html area it acts all weird, difficult to navigate and 
unresponsive. I have even gone so far as to do a clean install of Lion on my 
MacBook Air, then restoring from time machine, but that didn't fix the problem. 
Any ideas?

 - Austin

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Kristin,

I think we're basically on the same page, except that I'll keep my MBP as my 
main computer.  I occasionally watch some of our movies from DVD on my MacBook, 
so I prefer having the DVD drive built-in.  Again, not sure what I'm going to 
do, but I'm starting to feel like I have enough need to justify the purchase of 
an Air (of course, this is probably a juicy rationalization). lol
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> There is a USB DVD drive sold separately for $80.  My primary computer is a 
> mini, but the Air is the perfect portable one for me.  It is the size of an 
> iPad with the full features of a laptop.  
> 
> Has anyone found a laptop sleeve to fit the 11.6 inch Air? 
> 
> Kristyn
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hey Chris,
>> 
>> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB 
>> drive most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.
>> 
>> That 11-inch Air is *really calling my name.  I would have given 
>> anything to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big 
>> enough that I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see 
>> why you're sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful 
>> device.  And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, 
>> I'd be all over it!
>> 
>> I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
>> see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point.  So I 
>> don't know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more plane travel 
>> coming up over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be able to take the 
>> Air.  I'd definitely use it, I know that, but it's a luxury, not a 
>> necessity.  Bt … lol
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> 
>>> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is 
>>> that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle 
>>> instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
>>> 
>>> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
>>> 
>>> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
>>> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
>>> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I 
>>> want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Mika,
 
 The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard 
 drive, faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in 
 ethernet, DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also 
 has better sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether 
 net via usb, but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need 
 to haul around.  The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a 
 more powerful computer, with more features built-in.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
 
> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as 
> opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
> 
> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of 
> the machine, etc?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mika
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
> 
> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to 
>> haul around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my 
>> MBP to and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, 
>> and all those buildings are different from the building where my office 
>> is.  So I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille 
>> display.
>> 
>> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  
>> So I'll either be trying something like what 

Access Keys Not Working on Websites with Safari 5.1?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, folk,

I was trying to use control-1, 2, etc. on Facebook and it doesn't work. Any 
ideas? The tool tip says that these things still have access keys, so I think 
it's either safari or VO that are the factors here.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: bad Arrow Key behavior with VO

[Teresa Cochran]

Actually, Quick-Nav is the setting that allows you to navigate with the arrow 
keys. You use left- and right-arrow keys simultaneously to turn it on and off. 
It isn't hard to turn it on accidentally, and, indeed VO in Snow Leopard seems 
to do this spontaneously at times. Double-check and be sure it isn't on.

The other keystroke you mentioned, VO-semicolon, simply locks the VO keys on.

I'm not sure what you're referring to when you speak of VO hijacking the 
insertion point. Even if it follows keyboard tracking, it shouldn't matter when 
you move the arrow keys to navigate.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Interacting with the text area is exactly what I want to avoid doing. I don't 
> want VO to hijack the insertion point.  And if you mean quick nav, as in VO 
> semicolon, It is off.
> 
> Did this potentially change between point releases?
> 
> --Scott
> 
> 
> 
>> Try interacting with the text area first. Also, make sure quick nav is off.
>> 
>> Kristyn
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here's the situation:
>>> 1.  Launch TextEdit.
>>> 2.  Just start typing A  B C D.
>>> 3.  Hit the left arrow key.
>>> 4.  On my Mac Mini, I hear the insertion point move over the letter D.  But 
>>> on my new Air, VO jumps to the ruler.
>>> 
>>> Why is VO jumping when focus is on the edit area of text edit. This 
>>> behavior seems to happen on other text edit areas in other applications, 
>>> but TextEdit is the easiest to see.
>>> 
>>> I've imported the VO settings on the Air from the Mac  Mini, so the VO 
>>> settings should be identical on both machines..  Both computers are running 
>>> Snow Leopard.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> --Scott
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RE: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Mika Pyyhkala]

As for a DVD drive, is it easy say to copy a movie over to the hard drive of 
say a MacBook Air, so that you don't need a DVD drive on the road?

I just am thinking of this as software increasingly moves to being acquired 
through a platform like the Mac app store.

I'm just not sure, for me, why it would be important now a days to have a built 
in DVD drive?

Things like the processor, sound, etc. are more important in the uses I would 
tend to have.  I'm not sure also on the MBA that just came out how much of an 
improvement the processor is, etc.

BTW I now have the 11 inch MBA (the model just before the most recent release), 
bought in early 2011.  I still found I mostly used Jaws, mainly because I'm 
still more efficient browsing the web under Jaws and for Qwitter, though I have 
not really spent the necessary time to learn the Mac ways of doing things.


Best,
mika

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

Hey Chris,

Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB drive 
most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.

That 11-inch Air is *really calling my name.  I would have given anything 
to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big enough that I 
didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see why you're 
sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful device.  And 
I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, I'd be all over it!

  I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point.  So I don't 
know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more plane travel coming up 
over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be able to take the Air.  I'd 
definitely use it, I know that, but it's a luxury, not a necessity.  Bt ... 
lol
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Donna,
> 
> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is 
> that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle 
> instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
> 
> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
> 
> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I 
> want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
> 
> Chris 
> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mika,
>> 
>> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard drive, 
>> faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in ethernet, 
>> DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also has better 
>> sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net via usb, 
>> but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to haul around.  
>> The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a more powerful 
>> computer, with more features built-in.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
>> 
>>> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as 
>>> opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of 
>>> the machine, etc?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mika
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>>> 
>>> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
>>> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
>>> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
>>> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
>>> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
>>> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
>>> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
>>> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Hi Chris,
 
 In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul 
 around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to 
 and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, and all 
 those buildings are different from the building where my office is.  So 
 I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display.
 
 I do 

Re: Downloads folder

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,

a quick and easy way to open it in Safari while or after downloading is 
pressing CMD + Option + f to reach the search edit box of Google and then just 
once VO + arrow right.

All the best
Jürgen
Am 14.08.2011 um 21:47 schrieb Jeffrey Shockley:

> Hi,
> It's CMD Option L.
> HTH,
> Jeffrey
> On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
> 
>> I heard that there was a shortcut to open the Downloads folder directly from 
>> the finder in Lion, what is it?  I can't find it.
>> 
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Re: bad Arrow Key behavior with VO

[Scott Bresnahan]

Hi,

Interacting with the text area is exactly what I want to avoid doing. 
I don't want VO to hijack the insertion point.  And if you mean quick 
nav, as in VO semicolon, It is off.


Did this potentially change between point releases?

--Scott




Try interacting with the text area first. Also, make sure quick nav is off.

Kristyn

On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:


 Hi,

 Here's the situation:
 1.  Launch TextEdit.
 2.  Just start typing A  B C D.
 3.  Hit the left arrow key.
 4.  On my Mac Mini, I hear the insertion point move over the 
letter D.  But on my new Air, VO jumps to the ruler.


 Why is VO jumping when focus is on the edit area of text edit. 
This behavior seems to happen on other text edit areas in other 
applications, but TextEdit is the easiest to see.


 I've imported the VO settings on the Air from the Mac  Mini, so 
the VO settings should be identical on both machines..  Both 
computers are running Snow Leopard.


 Any ideas?
 --Scott
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Kristyn Leigh]

Hi Donna,

There is a USB DVD drive sold separately for $80.  My primary computer is a 
mini, but the Air is the perfect portable one for me.  It is the size of an 
iPad with the full features of a laptop.  

Has anyone found a laptop sleeve to fit the 11.6 inch Air? 

Kristyn
On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hey Chris,
> 
> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB 
> drive most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.
> 
> That 11-inch Air is *really calling my name.  I would have given anything 
> to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big enough that 
> I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see why you're 
> sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful device.  
> And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, I'd be all 
> over it!
> 
>  I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
> see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point.  So I 
> don't know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more plane travel 
> coming up over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be able to take the 
> Air.  I'd definitely use it, I know that, but it's a luxury, not a necessity. 
>  Bt … lol
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is 
>> that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle 
>> instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
>> 
>> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
>> 
>> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
>> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
>> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I 
>> want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mika,
>>> 
>>> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard 
>>> drive, faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in 
>>> ethernet, DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also has 
>>> better sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net 
>>> via usb, but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to 
>>> haul around.  The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a more 
>>> powerful computer, with more features built-in.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
>>> 
 What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as 
 opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
 
 Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of 
 the machine, etc?
 
 Thanks,
 Mika
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
 
 I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
 the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
 the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
 could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
 session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
 the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
 backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
 vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to 
> haul around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my 
> MBP to and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, 
> and all those buildings are different from the building where my office 
> is.  So I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille 
> display.
> 
> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So 
> I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting 
> the low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't 
>> that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags 
>> with a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally 
>> picked up one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very 
>> comfortable and more pockets to lose things in :

Re: mac mini 2011 info

[james Walton]

strange, i wonder if there is a reason mine does not work, is it because it is 
one for 10 dollars from amazon?
had to save money you know.

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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Joe Paton]

Hello,

it's an AppleMini-DP to VGA Adapter
Part Number:MB572Z/A
 At 17:54 15/08/2011, you wrote:
no dvd or cd drive, no this is not a surprise! the mac app store wil 
be causing all macs to not have a superdrive very soon.

this is funny!
what adapter do you have connected to your mac mini?
i need to have a monitor connected to mine.
thanks

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Chris,

Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB drive 
most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.

That 11-inch Air is *really calling my name.  I would have given anything 
to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big enough that I 
didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see why you're 
sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful device.  And 
I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, I'd be all over it!

  I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point.  So I don't 
know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more plane travel coming up 
over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be able to take the Air.  I'd 
definitely use it, I know that, but it's a luxury, not a necessity.  Bt … 
lol
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Donna,
> 
> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is 
> that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle 
> instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
> 
> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
> 
> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I 
> want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
> 
> Chris 
> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mika,
>> 
>> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard drive, 
>> faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in ethernet, 
>> DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also has better 
>> sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net via usb, 
>> but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to haul around.  
>> The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a more powerful 
>> computer, with more features built-in.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
>> 
>>> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as 
>>> opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of 
>>> the machine, etc?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mika
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>>> 
>>> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
>>> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
>>> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
>>> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
>>> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
>>> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
>>> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
>>> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Hi Chris,
 
 In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul 
 around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to 
 and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, and all 
 those buildings are different from the building where my office is.  So 
 I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display.
 
 I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So 
 I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting 
 the low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't 
> that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags 
> with a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally 
> picked up one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very 
> comfortable and more pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 
> to find out. It's been several years now but the one I got is still 
> available:
> 
> http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
> 
> Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you 
> have to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess 
> it's no worse than many web shopping carts.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Don

Re: Routing input from multiple sounds cards on a Mac mini

[Joe Paton]

Hello Frank,

Wouldn't you be better off with a small mixer? You could more easily 
control audio output and tonal quality if desired via hardware controls.


Thanks,

JP
At 14:04 15/08/2011, you wrote:

Hello all, I would like to know if there is a means or a piece of
software to take input from several USb sound cards attached to a Mac
and route it to another audio device (probably another USB sound card)
for output? For example if I had three USB sound cards attached, each
with an audio input is there some means of switching from one to another
and routing that selection to another sound card for output? Also is
there a limit to the number of USB sound devices attached?
Thanks
Frank

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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[james Walton]

no dvd or cd drive, no this is not a surprise! the mac app store wil be causing 
all macs to not have a superdrive very soon.
this is funny!
what adapter do you have connected to your mac mini?
i need to have a monitor connected to mine.
thanks

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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Joe Paton]

Hi,

Mine needs a converter lead connected to one of the display ports, 
but works ok.

it is 7 days old.
No dvd/cd, that came as a surprise.
Cheers,

JP
At 16:50 15/08/2011, you wrote:
If true this would be a great thing. In the past the mini has 
fruitlessly search for a monitor when not connected to one, bogging 
down the system in the process. Maybe the server version is 
different since it might often times be sitting in a rack 'headless'.


CB

On 8/15/11 11:29 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

Are you using the newest model?  I got an email from apple telling me the
new ones worked fine without a monitor.  Wil find out today, waiting for
delvery on my mini server version.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac mini 2011 info

Hi, David,

The Mac Mini used to work with an adapter plugged into the monitor port, but
no longer, especially with Safari, the web browser. VO does not read web
pages properly and gives unending "busy" messages. I haven't experimented
with other applications, but I use the web so much that it's not worth it to
me to try it without a monitor. I love the small amount of space it takes up
on my desk, but it's not truly portable in that way.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:50 AM, David Geiger wrote:


hi guys  if any one can help me  i am thinking about getting a mac
mini 2011  i want to know if i can use it with out a monitor  and will
voice over work  with out a monitor i have tried it a little with out
one hooked but not enough to know if it works  good or not  hope to
get a reply soon looking to buy soon thank you

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Chris Moore]

Donna,

One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is that 
it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle instead.  
Not sure if this is important to you.

I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.

I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I would 
expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I want.  A 
keyboard with a touch screen all in one.

Chris 
On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Mika,
> 
> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard drive, 
> faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in ethernet, 
> DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also has better 
> sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net via usb, 
> but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to haul around.  
> The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a more powerful 
> computer, with more features built-in.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
> 
>> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as opposed 
>> to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
>> 
>> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of the 
>> machine, etc?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mika
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>> 
>> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
>> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
>> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
>> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
>> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
>> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
>> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
>> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul 
>>> around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to 
>>> and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, and all 
>>> those buildings are different from the building where my office is.  So 
>>> I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display.
>>> 
>>> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So 
>>> I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting the 
>>> low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
 Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't 
 that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags with 
 a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally picked up 
 one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very comfortable and 
 more pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's 
 been several years now but the one I got is still available:
 
 http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
 
 Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you 
 have to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess 
 it's no worse than many web shopping carts.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering 
> shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of 
> the new ones, with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, 
> running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's 
> anyone on list who can give me an accurate comparison of the user 
> experience on these two models.  A couple of the things I'm wondering 
> about are:
> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
> compensate, at least to some extent.
> 
> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the 
> two compare.
> 
> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either 
> good or bad, I'd love to hear.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can 
> liv

Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Mika,

The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard drive, 
faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in ethernet, DVD 
drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also has better sound.  
With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net via usb, but they're 
not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to haul around.  The Air is a 
great portable device, but the MacBook is a more powerful computer, with more 
features built-in.
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:

> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as opposed 
> to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
> 
> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of the 
> machine, etc?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mika
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
> 
> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul 
>> around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to and 
>> from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, and all those 
>> buildings are different from the building where my office is.  So I'll be 
>> carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display.
>> 
>> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So 
>> I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting the 
>> low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't 
>>> that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags with 
>>> a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally picked up 
>>> one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very comfortable and 
>>> more pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's 
>>> been several years now but the one I got is still available:
>>> 
>>> http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
>>> 
>>> Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you have 
>>> to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess it's no 
>>> worse than many web shopping carts.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
 several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling 
 out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of the new 
 ones, with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, running a 
 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's anyone on list 
 who can give me an accurate comparison of the user experience on these two 
 models.  A couple of the things I'm wondering about are:
 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
 processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
 compensate, at least to some extent.
 
 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the 
 two compare.
 
 If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either 
 good or bad, I'd love to hear.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can 
 live with.
 
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RE: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Mika Pyyhkala]

What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as opposed to 
the MBA (MacBook Air)?

Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of the 
machine, etc?

Thanks,
Mika

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.

CB

On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul 
> around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to and 
> from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, and all those 
> buildings are different from the building where my office is.  So I'll be 
> carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display.
>
> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So 
> I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting the 
> low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't 
>> that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags with a 
>> shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally picked up one 
>> for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very comfortable and more 
>> pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's been 
>> several years now but the one I got is still available:
>>
>> http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
>>
>> Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you have 
>> to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess it's no 
>> worse than many web shopping carts.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
>>> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling 
>>> out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of the new ones, 
>>> with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ 
>>> processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can 
>>> give me an accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models.  
>>> A couple of the things I'm wondering about are:
>>> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
>>> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
>>> compensate, at least to some extent.
>>>
>>> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the two 
>>> compare.
>>>
>>> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either 
>>> good or bad, I'd love to hear.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can 
>>> live with.
>>>
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Re: bad Arrow Key behavior with VO

[Kristyn Leigh]

Try interacting with the text area first. Also, make sure quick nav is off.

Kristyn

On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Here's the situation:
> 1.  Launch TextEdit.
> 2.  Just start typing A  B C D.
> 3.  Hit the left arrow key.
> 4.  On my Mac Mini, I hear the insertion point move over the letter D.  But 
> on my new Air, VO jumps to the ruler.
> 
> Why is VO jumping when focus is on the edit area of text edit.  This behavior 
> seems to happen on other text edit areas in other applications, but TextEdit 
> is the easiest to see.
> 
> I've imported the VO settings on the Air from the Mac  Mini, so the VO 
> settings should be identical on both machines..  Both computers are running 
> Snow Leopard.
> 
> Any ideas?
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bad Arrow Key behavior with VO

[Scott Bresnahan]

Hi,

Here's the situation:
1.  Launch TextEdit.
2.  Just start typing A  B C D.
3.  Hit the left arrow key.
4.  On my Mac Mini, I hear the insertion point move over the letter 
D.  But on my new Air, VO jumps to the ruler.


Why is VO jumping when focus is on the edit area of text edit.  This 
behavior seems to happen on other text edit areas in other 
applications, but TextEdit is the easiest to see.


I've imported the VO settings on the Air from the Mac  Mini, so the 
VO settings should be identical on both machines..  Both computers 
are running Snow Leopard.


Any ideas?
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Chris Blouch]

I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with 
the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made 
the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that 
could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the 
session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in 
the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the 
backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable 
vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.


CB

On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi Chris,

In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul 
around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to and 
from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, and all those 
buildings are different from the building where my office is.  So I'll be 
carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display.

I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So I'll 
either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting the low-end 
model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't that 
big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags with a 
shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally picked up one 
for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very comfortable and more 
pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's been 
several years now but the one I got is still available:

http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552

Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you have to 
slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess it's no worse 
than many web shopping carts.

CB

On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling out 
the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of the new ones, with 
all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ processor 
with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can give me an 
accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models.  A couple of 
the things I'm wondering about are:
1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster processor, 
but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will compensate, at least 
to some extent.

2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the two 
compare.

If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either good or 
bad, I'd love to hear.
Best,
Donna

P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can live 
with.


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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Chris Blouch]

If true this would be a great thing. In the past the mini has 
fruitlessly search for a monitor when not connected to one, bogging down 
the system in the process. Maybe the server version is different since 
it might often times be sitting in a rack 'headless'.


CB

On 8/15/11 11:29 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

Are you using the newest model?  I got an email from apple telling me the
new ones worked fine without a monitor.  Wil find out today, waiting for
delvery on my mini server version.


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac mini 2011 info

Hi, David,

The Mac Mini used to work with an adapter plugged into the monitor port, but
no longer, especially with Safari, the web browser. VO does not read web
pages properly and gives unending "busy" messages. I haven't experimented
with other applications, but I use the web so much that it's not worth it to
me to try it without a monitor. I love the small amount of space it takes up
on my desk, but it's not truly portable in that way.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:50 AM, David Geiger wrote:


hi guys  if any one can help me  i am thinking about getting a mac
mini 2011  i want to know if i can use it with out a monitor  and will
voice over work  with out a monitor i have tried it a little with out
one hooked but not enough to know if it works  good or not  hope to
get a reply soon looking to buy soon thank you

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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi,

I'd imagine this might be one of those your-mileage-may-vary situations. I'd 
recommend, if this issue is an important one to you, that you go to a Mac store 
and try it out without a monitor, especially in Safari, and see if it works for 
you. I don't have the most recent model (I got mine last April) and it doesn't 
work for me.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

> Are you using the newest model?  I got an email from apple telling me the
> new ones worked fine without a monitor.  Wil find out today, waiting for
> delvery on my mini server version.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mac mini 2011 info
> 
> Hi, David,
> 
> The Mac Mini used to work with an adapter plugged into the monitor port, but
> no longer, especially with Safari, the web browser. VO does not read web
> pages properly and gives unending "busy" messages. I haven't experimented
> with other applications, but I use the web so much that it's not worth it to
> me to try it without a monitor. I love the small amount of space it takes up
> on my desk, but it's not truly portable in that way.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:50 AM, David Geiger wrote:
> 
>> hi guys  if any one can help me  i am thinking about getting a mac
>> mini 2011  i want to know if i can use it with out a monitor  and will
>> voice over work  with out a monitor i have tried it a little with out
>> one hooked but not enough to know if it works  good or not  hope to
>> get a reply soon looking to buy soon thank you
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RE: mac mini 2011 info

[Bill Holton]

Are you using the newest model?  I got an email from apple telling me the
new ones worked fine without a monitor.  Wil find out today, waiting for
delvery on my mini server version.


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac mini 2011 info

Hi, David,

The Mac Mini used to work with an adapter plugged into the monitor port, but
no longer, especially with Safari, the web browser. VO does not read web
pages properly and gives unending "busy" messages. I haven't experimented
with other applications, but I use the web so much that it's not worth it to
me to try it without a monitor. I love the small amount of space it takes up
on my desk, but it's not truly portable in that way.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:50 AM, David Geiger wrote:

> hi guys  if any one can help me  i am thinking about getting a mac
> mini 2011  i want to know if i can use it with out a monitor  and will
> voice over work  with out a monitor i have tried it a little with out
> one hooked but not enough to know if it works  good or not  hope to
> get a reply soon looking to buy soon thank you
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Chris,

In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul 
around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to and 
from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, and all those 
buildings are different from the building where my office is.  So I'll be 
carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display.

I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  So I'll 
either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting the low-end 
model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability.
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't that 
> big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags with a 
> shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally picked up one 
> for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very comfortable and more 
> pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's been 
> several years now but the one I got is still available:
> 
> http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
> 
> Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you have 
> to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess it's no 
> worse than many web shopping carts.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
>> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling 
>> out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of the new ones, 
>> with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ 
>> processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can 
>> give me an accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models.  
>> A couple of the things I'm wondering about are:
>> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
>> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
>> compensate, at least to some extent.
>> 
>> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the two 
>> compare.
>> 
>> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either good 
>> or bad, I'd love to hear.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can 
>> live with.
>> 
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Re: mac mini 2011 info

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, David,

The Mac Mini used to work with an adapter plugged into the monitor port, but no 
longer, especially with Safari, the web browser. VO does not read web pages 
properly and gives unending "busy" messages. I haven't experimented with other 
applications, but I use the web so much that it's not worth it to me to try it 
without a monitor. I love the small amount of space it takes up on my desk, but 
it's not truly portable in that way.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:50 AM, David Geiger wrote:

> hi guys  if any one can help me  i am thinking about getting a mac
> mini 2011  i want to know if i can use it with out a monitor  and will
> voice over work  with out a monitor i have tried it a little with out
> one hooked but not enough to know if it works  good or not  hope to
> get a reply soon looking to buy soon thank you
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mac mini 2011 info

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hi guys  if any one can help me  i am thinking about getting a mac
mini 2011  i want to know if i can use it with out a monitor  and will
voice over work  with out a monitor i have tried it a little with out
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Re: Tinker Tool nice app

[Teresa Cochran]

That's sounds very interesting. I'll check it out; thanks.

Teresa
On Aug 15, 2011, at 2:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker 
> Tool, which can be found here:
> 
> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
> 
> This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to 
> have around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other 
> manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a 
> nice app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Question about Pages and double spacing?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jes,

You change the spacing in the Inspector.

Cheers,

Anne

On 15 Aug 2011, at 15:40, Jes Smith wrote:

> Hi list,
> Whenever I select a blank template under word processing, and try to change 
> the spacing from single to double, the popup menu is dimmed. Why is this and 
> how can I fix it?
> Jes
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Kristyn Leigh]

Some apps cannot be projected from an iPad.  I am very happy with my Macbook 
Air, but I have not owned the Macbook Pro.  I bought mine last year and got the 
extra RAM and larger hard drive in the smaller model.  So it runs Lion just 
fine.  If you can afford it, it is usually good to get a little more than you 
need right now to allow for future options.

Kristyn
On Aug 15, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Joanne,
> 
> I thought about that.  But when I teach I hook my MBP up to the monitor in my 
> classroom, and use it to display material for my students.  an iPad would be 
> a lot slower when I need to type information during class.  My thinking was 
> that by the time I paired the iPad with a Bluetooth Keyboard, I wouldn't be 
> much more portable than I already am with my MBP.  Good suggestion, though, 
> for other uses that would have made a lot of sense.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:
> 
>> hi Dona,
>> 
>> just a thought, what about keeping the mbp as main computer, and get
>> an ipad for your travel use?
>> 
>> On 15/08/2011, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> Hi Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> thanks for responding.  What you said was pretty much what I expected, but
>>> good to have it confirmed.  As for high-resource tasks,I am hoping to do a
>>> lot more with garage-band once I get a keyboard.  But another option would
>>> be for me to keep my MBP as my main computer, and just use the Air for
>>> travel, teaching, and other situations where I need portability, which
>>> speaks to your suggestion of just getting the standard 11 inch.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
 
 There is a noticeable difference in sound from a macbook air to a macbook
 pro.  But this is to be expected on a smaller machine.  Sound is so poor
 in my opinion, headphones will come in handy a lot.  Especially in noisy
 public environments.  As far as performance, I don't think you will see
 any difference at all.  From following your post the last couple years,
 you don't seem to do many resource intensive tasks like audio production,
 or anything like that.  I think you could probably even be able to make do
 with the standard 11 inch air.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Aug 14, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next
> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering
> shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of
> the new ones, with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old,
> running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's
> anyone on list who can give me an accurate comparison of the user
> experience on these two models.  A couple of the things I'm wondering
> about are:
> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster
> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will
> compensate, at least to some extent.
> 
> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the
> two compare.
> 
> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either
> good or bad, I'd love to hear.
> Best,
> Donna
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> live with.
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Chris Blouch]

Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't 
that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags 
with a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally 
picked up one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very 
comfortable and more pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 
to find out. It's been several years now but the one I got is still 
available:


http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552

Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you 
have to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess 
it's no worse than many web shopping carts.


CB

On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling out 
the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of the new ones, with 
all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ processor 
with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can give me an 
accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models.  A couple of 
the things I'm wondering about are:
1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster processor, 
but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will compensate, at least 
to some extent.

2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the two 
compare.

If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either good or 
bad, I'd love to hear.
Best,
Donna

P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can live 
with.



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Re: charger Compadibility

[Chris Blouch]

While not quite the same setup my MacBook Pro charger works just fine in 
my wife's old little MacBook and vice versa. Main thing is that her 
power supply is not quite as big (physically and wattage) so it takes 
longer to charge up my laptop if I'm using her power supply. I would 
assume similar things with the Air and your MacBookPro where the Air 
uses a 45 watt power supply:


http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html

While the current MacBookPro has an 85w power supply

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

So I think whomever you passed the MacBookPro along to would appreciate 
getting the correct larger power supply.


CB

On 8/14/11 7:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

It should be, the macbook pro is a higher wattage charger, so, assuming it 
fits, it should work, though of course it won't charge any faster.
On Aug 14, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Dan Roy wrote:


I am expecting my new macbook air to arrive tomorrow. Does anybody know if the 
charger from the macbook pro is compatible with the 1 from the macbook air.

If I do sell the macbook pro, if the chargers are compatible, I can package the 
macbook pro with the brand new charger. Knowing my luck, this won't work.  I 
just wanted to check and see if anyone knew for sure?

If this is considered off topic, you can reply to me at:
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Re: iTunes 10.4

[Chris Blouch]

I never used that feature but the help for iTunes says to use Time 
Machine to make backups of your library. I guess they decided to not 
reinvent the wheel and just use the backup system they already wrote 
elsewhere.


CB

On 8/15/11 1:44 AM, ezzie bueno wrote:

Hello list,
 I hope you all had a great weekend.
I've been having issues with iTunes 10.4.  I cannot find the
option to back up my iTunes library to a disc on ANY of the
menus.  I found it more easily on previous versions of iTunes.  I
also cannot find a way to burn a movie to a DVD.
Am I missing something? I welcome any suggestions you may have.
 Thanks,
Ezzie Bueno
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Question about Pages and double spacing?

[Jes Smith]

Hi list,
Whenever I select a blank template under word processing, and try to change the 
spacing from single to double, the popup menu is dimmed. Why is this and how 
can I fix it?
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Re: Radio tuner aps for the Mac

[Esther]

Hi Frank,

I've only played with the trial version of Radium, but if you are using 
TrackPad Commander, you can navigate to the Radium icon in the Dock and double 
tap on the TrackPad to bring up the menu.  You'll be in the search field, and 
can type in the station you want, and flick to the menu button and other 
controls to configure shortcuts and preferences. However, I'm used to using 
keyboard shortcuts, and if you don't want to use TrackPad Commander, once you 
launch Radium, you can just press Command+comma to bring up the preferences 
menu, then navigate to the "Controls" tab, and interact with the table of 
keyboard shortcuts, checking the boxes for any that you want to activate.  
Among these will be a shortcut to start/stop Radium (Command+Shift+E by 
default).  Once this is checked, and the preferences window is closed, using 
this shortcut will take you to the search field in the Radium menu and allow 
you to start a search for a station, or else access the other parts of the menu 
(e.g. view the last selected station, resume playing, check it to mark as a 
favorite, access the menu button for other options including setting 
preferences, etc.)  The keyboard shortcut of Command+Shift+E toggles open and 
closed the menu window that you would normally get by clicking the Radium icon 
on the status menu bar. (If you want to change this to a different keyboard 
shortcut, in the table on the "Controls" pane in the "Preferences" menu where 
you checked the box for the "Start/Stop Radium" option, use VO-Space on the 
column listing the keyboard shortcut, then type in a new shortcut sequence.)

As far as I know there are no Tutorials. I find it helpful to Google for a 
review when I want to learn about an app's features and capabilities. You can 
use the Mail Archive search to find and read my earlier posts, which give a bit 
more details on the menu layout and other preference tab options, such as 
subscriptions. 

The Mail Archive page for this list is:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/

Type your search terms like:
Esther radium
to bring up links to relevant posts.  Since the Mail Archive supports searching 
by author, a better search would be to use terms like:
from: Esther radium   
where there is a colon after "from"

This will get you the link to the first post:
• Re: radio app for macbook air
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg51385.html

To read down the thread to my later posts, press Control+n  (for "next").  To 
read the earlier posts in the thread, discussing Radioshift and Piano Pub, 
press Control+p (for "previous"). User of different browsers can substitute the 
appropriate access key (e.g., use "Alt" instead of "Control" for Internet 
Explorer.)

You can read more about Mail Archive search syntax options and shortcut keys 
from their FAQ:
http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 14, 2011, at 22:24, Frank Ventura wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendation. Can anyone tell me how to operate this
> with VO. From my understanding it should sit in the menu bar. I can't
> seem to find it in any menu. When I launch the Radium app from the apps
> folder it just Radium has no Windows. I don't see anything helpful in
> the help menu. Is there a tutorial somewhere? Any help would be
> appreciated.
> Frank
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:54 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Radio tuner aps for the Mac
> 
> Recently, Esther posted abgout an application called Radium. It is
> available in the app store for $25, but there is a free trial demo
> available from the developer as well. The most recently update had
> comments that it has been made voice-over accessible. I love it when
> developers go out of their way to do that and then comment on it! 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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RE: Radio tuner aps for the Mac

[Frank Ventura]

Ah OK I have found that if you COMMAND TAB to Radium and open the
Windows menu and down arrow to Radium you can type in a station to
search for. Is there a shortcut key combo that can get me there as well?

Frank

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Radio tuner aps for the Mac

Recently, Esther posted abgout an application called Radium. It is
available in the app store for $25, but there is a free trial demo
available from the developer as well. The most recently update had
comments that it has been made voice-over accessible. I love it when
developers go out of their way to do that and then comment on it! 

Mary

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Routing input from multiple sounds cards on a Mac mini

[Frank Ventura]

Hello all, I would like to know if there is a means or a piece of
software to take input from several USb sound cards attached to a Mac
and route it to another audio device (probably another USB sound card)
for output? For example if I had three USB sound cards attached, each
with an audio input is there some means of switching from one to another
and routing that selection to another sound card for output? Also is
there a limit to the number of USB sound devices attached?
Thanks
Frank

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Joanne,

I thought about that.  But when I teach I hook my MBP up to the monitor in my 
classroom, and use it to display material for my students.  an iPad would be a 
lot slower when I need to type information during class.  My thinking was that 
by the time I paired the iPad with a Bluetooth Keyboard, I wouldn't be much 
more portable than I already am with my MBP.  Good suggestion, though, for 
other uses that would have made a lot of sense.
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:

> hi Dona,
> 
> just a thought, what about keeping the mbp as main computer, and get
> an ipad for your travel use?
> 
> On 15/08/2011, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> Hi Ricardo,
>> 
>> thanks for responding.  What you said was pretty much what I expected, but
>> good to have it confirmed.  As for high-resource tasks,I am hoping to do a
>> lot more with garage-band once I get a keyboard.  But another option would
>> be for me to keep my MBP as my main computer, and just use the Air for
>> travel, teaching, and other situations where I need portability, which
>> speaks to your suggestion of just getting the standard 11 inch.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> There is a noticeable difference in sound from a macbook air to a macbook
>>> pro.  But this is to be expected on a smaller machine.  Sound is so poor
>>> in my opinion, headphones will come in handy a lot.  Especially in noisy
>>> public environments.  As far as performance, I don't think you will see
>>> any difference at all.  From following your post the last couple years,
>>> you don't seem to do many resource intensive tasks like audio production,
>>> or anything like that.  I think you could probably even be able to make do
>>> with the standard 11 inch air.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next
 several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering
 shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of
 the new ones, with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old,
 running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's
 anyone on list who can give me an accurate comparison of the user
 experience on these two models.  A couple of the things I'm wondering
 about are:
 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster
 processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will
 compensate, at least to some extent.
 
 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the
 two compare.
 
 If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either
 good or bad, I'd love to hear.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Joanne Chua]

hi Dona,

just a thought, what about keeping the mbp as main computer, and get
an ipad for your travel use?

On 15/08/2011, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> Hi Ricardo,
>
> thanks for responding.  What you said was pretty much what I expected, but
> good to have it confirmed.  As for high-resource tasks,I am hoping to do a
> lot more with garage-band once I get a keyboard.  But another option would
> be for me to keep my MBP as my main computer, and just use the Air for
> travel, teaching, and other situations where I need portability, which
> speaks to your suggestion of just getting the standard 11 inch.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> Hi Donna,
>>
>> There is a noticeable difference in sound from a macbook air to a macbook
>> pro.  But this is to be expected on a smaller machine.  Sound is so poor
>> in my opinion, headphones will come in handy a lot.  Especially in noisy
>> public environments.  As far as performance, I don't think you will see
>> any difference at all.  From following your post the last couple years,
>> you don't seem to do many resource intensive tasks like audio production,
>> or anything like that.  I think you could probably even be able to make do
>> with the standard 11 inch air.
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next
>>> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering
>>> shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of
>>> the new ones, with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old,
>>> running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's
>>> anyone on list who can give me an accurate comparison of the user
>>> experience on these two models.  A couple of the things I'm wondering
>>> about are:
>>> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster
>>> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will
>>> compensate, at least to some extent.
>>>
>>> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the
>>> two compare.
>>>
>>> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either
>>> good or bad, I'd love to hear.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can
>>> live with.
>>>
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Ricardo,

thanks for responding.  What you said was pretty much what I expected, but good 
to have it confirmed.  As for high-resource tasks,I am hoping to do a lot more 
with garage-band once I get a keyboard.  But another option would be for me to 
keep my MBP as my main computer, and just use the Air for travel, teaching, and 
other situations where I need portability, which speaks to your suggestion of 
just getting the standard 11 inch.
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> There is a noticeable difference in sound from a macbook air to a macbook 
> pro.  But this is to be expected on a smaller machine.  Sound is so poor in 
> my opinion, headphones will come in handy a lot.  Especially in noisy public 
> environments.  As far as performance, I don't think you will see any 
> difference at all.  From following your post the last couple years, you don't 
> seem to do many resource intensive tasks like audio production, or anything 
> like that.  I think you could probably even be able to make do with the 
> standard 11 inch air.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 14, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
>> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling 
>> out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of the new ones, 
>> with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ 
>> processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can 
>> give me an accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models.  
>> A couple of the things I'm wondering about are:
>> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
>> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
>> compensate, at least to some extent.
>> 
>> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the two 
>> compare.
>> 
>> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either good 
>> or bad, I'd love to hear.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can 
>> live with.
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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Donna,

There is a noticeable difference in sound from a macbook air to a macbook pro.  
But this is to be expected on a smaller machine.  Sound is so poor in my 
opinion, headphones will come in handy a lot.  Especially in noisy public 
environments.  As far as performance, I don't think you will see any difference 
at all.  From following your post the last couple years, you don't seem to do 
many resource intensive tasks like audio production, or anything like that.  I 
think you could probably even be able to make do with the standard 11 inch air.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 14, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next 
> several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling 
> out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of the new ones, 
> with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ 
> processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can 
> give me an accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models.  A 
> couple of the things I'm wondering about are:
> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
> compensate, at least to some extent.
> 
> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the two 
> compare.
> 
> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either good 
> or bad, I'd love to hear.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can live 
> with.
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Tinker Tool nice app

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi,

The other night, (Saturday night I believe), I first  came across Tinker Tool, 
which can be found here:

http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html

This is a free and very nice and completely accessible app.  Very handy to have 
around.  Let's you deal with hidden files in finder and many other 
manipulations of system settings not normally available directly.  Quite a nice 
app and very well worth one's time to explore a little.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



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RE: Radio tuner aps for the Mac

[Frank Ventura]

Thanks for the recommendation. Can anyone tell me how to operate this
with VO. From my understanding it should sit in the menu bar. I can't
seem to find it in any menu. When I launch the Radium app from the apps
folder it just Radium has no Windows. I don't see anything helpful in
the help menu. Is there a tutorial somewhere? Any help would be
appreciated.
Frank

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Radio tuner aps for the Mac

Recently, Esther posted abgout an application called Radium. It is
available in the app store for $25, but there is a free trial demo
available from the developer as well. The most recently update had
comments that it has been made voice-over accessible. I love it when
developers go out of their way to do that and then comment on it! 

Mary

Mary Otten
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Resolved: WasRe: Click-To-Flash and Click-To Questions

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, all,

here's how I resolved this. I'm still a little confused about some of the 
settings, but I was able to choose Flash as the default player in Click-To and 
now I can play flash stuff again.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 14, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, folk,
> 
> There are two websites that I would like to have flash play automatically in. 
> I can get things to show that they're playing, but I don't hear anything. The 
> sites are Hulu and mlb Gameday audio. They used to work in SL, but now that 
> I've got the Click-To plugin and Click-To-Flash extension, I'm not sure which 
> settings cancel each other out between the two.
> 
> Also, once you open the preferences for either and configure them, how do you 
> close them?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa

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Re: Safari 5.1

[Shen]

Hi,
I don't think you can just roll your Safari back to the previous version. I did 
a quick search but haven't found anything so far. If I do, I'll let you know.

On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Linda Adams wrote:

> Shen and Others,
> 
> I'm still having problems with Safari 5.1 and Earthlink Web Mail.  My 
> problems are a little different from the one you describe with HotMail but 
> I'm thinking Safari 5.1 is the culprit.  Could someone tell me how to return 
> to the former Safari version.  I'm not too computer literate so details would 
> be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Linda
> 
> On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Shen wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> Is anyone using the latest Safari 5.1 with the hotmail website? If so,
>> do you have any trouble such as Safari going busy for a long time?
>> I don't remember having this problem with Snow Leopard and Safari 5.06.
>> Now, it seems that after logging in hotmail, Safari is giving me a lot
>> of busy signals.
>> And here's the clincher. Open an email, and click on an attachment to
>> download. Safari will go into endless busy. There's no way out of it
>> unless you force quit the application.
>> Any suggestions on these issues would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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