Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Hi, As usual i disagree with this and with Cawals post. In my version of skype, which is the latest as far as i know, i always land where i want to land when Skype opens, if i have set the table to contacts, that is where i land next time i open Skype. And as for the dial pad not being accessible, well there are buttons with the numbers clearly labeled on them and if that wasn't enough, there's a text field above the buttons where you can actually type in the number, so i can't understand what's inaccessible. Maybe i'm stupid or plain ignorant, wouldn't surprice me if i am, but those are my findings. /Krister 30 apr 2012 kl. 23:16 skrev Missy Hoppe: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
What i don't fathom with the Skype home portion of Skype is how you post something to facebook without changing mood message in Skype as well. Seems if you post something to Facebook, you also set it as your mood message, and changing mood message many times a minute is in my opinion pointless, at least it seems so. /Krister 30 apr 2012 kl. 23:30 skrev Mark BurningHawk Baxter: What's even weirder is that, if you compare the Skype home pane's information to that available on the main site, many status changes simply don't show up on the Skype home page. Maybe it only reports status changes for Skype and Facebook users, but that seems a bit limited. In point of fact, I rarely use Skype Home, unless I want to post something quickly to FB. As for navigating back to the recent, subheading of the table at the top, I never found it much of a chore one way or the other. If you Interact with the table below the tool bar and arrow *down*, past the favorites sublevel, all recent activity is displayed. I wish they would make the missed event, counter last longer, though. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
What i wonder about skype is this: When i am in a conference and someone wants to praticipate and calls me how can i then add them to the conference, and i'm not talking about when i'm about to call someone or if i want to add someone by calling them, i'm talking about when someone calls in and i get a dialog saying answer or decline. Is there a way today and if so how do you do it? If not, will there be a way? /Krister 1 maj 2012 kl. 00:08 skrev Kevin Chao: I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I believe there is a way. You add someone to the call by adding them in the usual way; or so I suppose. Gonna have to play with it later to make sure. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 1, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: What i wonder about skype is this: When i am in a conference and someone wants to praticipate and calls me how can i then add them to the conference, and i'm not talking about when i'm about to call someone or if i want to add someone by calling them, i'm talking about when someone calls in and i get a dialog saying answer or decline. Is there a way today and if so how do you do it? If not, will there be a way? /Krister 1 maj 2012 kl. 00:08 skrev Kevin Chao: I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Soundstudio help
Hi folks, I'm messing around with soundstudio and it looks really nice. However, I can't seem to figure out how to edit with it. Such as, marking position, and setting a marker. Any help on or off list is appreciated. Thank you. :) Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 msn: matt...@live.com skype: blindman3221 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Blink Pro is a more sophisticated alternative with fabulous support for conferencing and extremely accessible. On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: Yep. It's simply called Telephone. Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:03:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? From: steve.holme...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Ok. I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac. Can this be brought back? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Word count in Pages
Hi Mike: Since Anne answered all of your questions, I'd like to suggest a work-around for the first one. While it's possible to find out word count information in the document inspector, you might find it easier to associate the following Apple script with a keyboard shortcut. This would allow you to query for the information without needing to navigate away from the document text area. I hope this helps. *** on isVoiceOverRunningWithAppleScript() set isRunning to true -- is AppleScript enabled on VoiceOver -- tell application VoiceOver try set x to bounds of vo cursor on error set isRunning to false end try end tell return isRunning end isVoiceOverRunningWithAppleScript tell document 1 of application Pages set wordcount to the (count of words) as text set charactercount to the (count of characters) as text delay 0.5 say wordcount words and charactercount characters end tell On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Michael Malarsie wrote: Greetings! Can someone tell me how to find the word count in pages? Also, is there a shortcut to start the spell check? Lastly, is there a way to change the program itself to Spanish instead of English? Thanks ya'll! Mike Malarsie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
voiceover won't cooperate
Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
accessing Facebook info from command line
Hi I want to build a text-only Facebook client that can be used either through an HTML interface or a command line interface that can be used from the terminal. I wish to know if it is possible to access a user's notifications, messages, request, etc and do small things like post status updates using c, python, bash scripts, or html. It would be great if you could point me to an appropriate resource to get started. Thanks in advance. Cheers Venkatesh Potluri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this
Re: Soundstudio help
The last that I heard, Soundstudio was not very accessible as far as editting. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. This is why I personally use ProTools, but that may be over kill for what you're trying to do, as well as for your wallet. Chris. - Original Message - From: Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:57 AM Subject: Soundstudio help Hi folks, I'm messing around with soundstudio and it looks really nice. However, I can't seem to figure out how to edit with it. Such as, marking position, and setting a marker. Any help on or off list is appreciated. Thank you. :) Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 msn: matt...@live.com skype: blindman3221 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
I use Express Talk Pro. It is so ridiculously accessible I had it figured out in less than 5 minutes literally. Chris. - Original Message - From: Emrah li...@kavun.ch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Blink Pro is a more sophisticated alternative with fabulous support for conferencing and extremely accessible. On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: Yep. It's simply called Telephone. Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:03:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? From: steve.holme...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Ok. I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac. Can this be brought back? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessing Facebook info from command line
This already exists. I don't know if macports will let you set it up on the mac, though. See this page: http://stormdragon.us/?p=223 If this doesn't work for some reason, then just go to http://www.stormdragon.us Then use heading navigation, and scroll down and you should see about the fourth post down is the one you need. Chris. - Original Message - From: Venkatesh Potluri venky...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:35 AM Subject: accessing Facebook info from command line Hi I want to build a text-only Facebook client that can be used either through an HTML interface or a command line interface that can be used from the terminal. I wish to know if it is possible to access a user's notifications, messages, request, etc and do small things like post status updates using c, python, bash scripts, or html. It would be great if you could point me to an appropriate resource to get started. Thanks in advance. Cheers Venkatesh Potluri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I can't get it to start in the contact list either, but there are a lot of things that my mac does that don't make sense. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I'm with the people who get the home screen! And I cannot see how to make it contacts only either! I do have it tied to facebook! Colin On 1 May 2012, at 16:51, Jenny Keller wrote: I can't get it to start in the contact list either, but there are a lot of things that my mac does that don't make sense. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO woldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my settup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I don't have mine tied to facebook, so I still don't know what the issue is. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: I'm with the people who get the home screen! And I cannot see how to make it contacts only either! I do have it tied to facebook! Colin On 1 May 2012, at 16:51, Jenny Keller wrote: I can't get it to start in the contact list either, but there are a lot of things that my mac does that don't make sense. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
How do I check it? I don't put anything on my computer like music or anything, just documents. Please tell me how to look this up. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ColorVisor, color identifier for iPhone
Hello Jan, If you are interested in developing an app with a ready market, I suggest a reasonably priced OCR APP for the iPhone. You may know that Kurzweil has developed such an app for the National Federation of the Blind, but it costs over $1000 and is not available on the iPhone. Just thought you might be interested, as a developer. Cordially, Rafael Bejarano On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.commailto:jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.comhttp://visorApps.com/ Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: problems with vm fusion 4, help!
oglem of not having any arrow keys in fusion? After I installed fusion 4, my arrow keys aren't working properly. I think they are now conflicting with mission control or something like that. I can't recall how to fix this.. Thanks, Cait On Apr 28, 11:08 am, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can anyone help withvmfusion4? I had to reinstall it and now nothing is working like before. For instance, there is no menu bar when I do vo m. I am running a trial version offusionsince I was thinking that maybe the version I had before wasn't playing nice with lion. this is only the tip of the iceberg here, but this is start of theproblemsI am having. I probably need to make changes to my virtual machine, but without the menu bar, it's very difficult. Also, the virtual machine lots of times doesn't shut down totally, it seems to hang. I have to restart the mac or force shut downvmfusionto clear this out. Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Problem with the app store on the iPhone
Hi guys, especially the folks at Accessibility I just tried to download Jan's app. I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. I can accept that I may need to reset my iPhone because it demanded security questions which it never did before. Ok, fine. However, I was supposed to fill out three, but dumb did one. However, when it caste back with the prompt, it said The items in red b not been completed. I gave up for now until I have time to figure out things. Irritated for the moment, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Problem with the app store on the iPhone
Hi, The security questions are an extra precaution against Apple ID theft, and other such security breeches. You have to fill out all 3 before you can download anything at all. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Hi guys, especially the folks at Accessibility I just tried to download Jan's app. I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. I can accept that I may need to reset my iPhone because it demanded security questions which it never did before. Ok, fine. However, I was supposed to fill out three, but dumb did one. However, when it caste back with the prompt, it said The items in red b not been completed. I gave up for now until I have time to figure out things. Irritated for the moment, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8 http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com http://visorApps.com/ Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ColorVisor, color identifier for iPhone
May I email you off-list? I am interested in developing iOS apps, but XCode is confusing (plus I have a few other questions). Thanks in advance! On 5/1/12, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Hello Jan, If you are interested in developing an app with a ready market, I suggest a reasonably priced OCR APP for the iPhone. You may know that Kurzweil has developed such an app for the National Federation of the Blind, but it costs over $1000 and is not available on the iPhone. Just thought you might be interested, as a developer. Cordially, Rafael Bejarano On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.commailto:jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.comhttp://visorApps.com/ Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with the app store on the iPhone
Ok, but I can't figure out which ones it wants. I remember putting in questions at one point when I set up things, but knows which of those checkbox things I did. If the ones I am supposed to check for the answer are in red, I'm in trouble since I can't ee the screen and there is no hint from VoiceOver on it. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The security questions are an extra precaution against Apple ID theft, and other such security breeches. You have to fill out all 3 before you can download anything at all. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfEugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Hi guys, especially the folks at Accessibility I just tried to download Jan's app. I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. I can accept that I may need to reset my iPhone because it demanded security questions which it never did before. Ok, fine. However, I was supposed to fill out three, but dumb did one. However, when it caste back with the prompt, it said The items in red b not been completed. I gave up for now until I have time to figure out things. Irritated for the moment, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Problem with the app store on the iPhone
No no. You pick questions with the 3 picker items, and then fill in the answers to each. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Ok, but I can't figure out which ones it wants. I remember putting in questions at one point when I set up things, but knows which of those checkbox things I did. If the ones I am supposed to check for the answer are in red, I'm in trouble since I can't ee the screen and there is no hint from VoiceOver on it. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The security questions are an extra precaution against Apple ID theft, and other such security breeches. You have to fill out all 3 before you can download anything at all. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfEugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Hi guys, especially the folks at Accessibility I just tried to download Jan's app. I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. I can accept that I may need to reset my iPhone because it demanded security questions which it never did before. Ok, fine. However, I was supposed to fill out three, but dumb did one. However, when it caste back with the prompt, it said The items in red b not been completed. I gave up for now until I have time to figure out things. Irritated for the moment, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8 http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com http://visorApps.com/ Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
hi there; i understand about not being able to make the trip, but most of the times we took my last computer in they didn't even charge me. there is a new 800 number for voiceover issues. i don't have it on hand, but someone on the list can give it to you. perhaps they could help you trouble shoot this. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
go to the desktop where it says mac hd and use the command i for inspector. then right arrow until it gives you the available space. but if you don't download movies or music, then that probably wasn't the problem. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: How do I check it? I don't put anything on my computer like music or anything, just documents. Please tell me how to look this up. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Hi folks My husband and I got our macs only recently and I have just joined this list. My skype starts in the home screen, but my husband's starts in the contacts table. The only difference between us is that he has skype credits and voicemail activated, and I don't. Could this be the reason? We have compared our mac settings and can't see why our skype would start in different places. Neither of us have it connected to facebook. I don't think he has premium though - just a skype number and voicemail. Unless that is what they call premium. It's not a problem getting to the contacts table though, and I actually find skype quite easy to use on the Mac, no more difficult than under windows. Just one question: how do you read messages people send you? I really can't figure out how to do this. Thanks. Lisette On 2/05/2012, at 3:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I use Express Talk Pro. It is so ridiculously accessible I had it figured out in less than 5 minutes literally. Chris. - Original Message - From: Emrah li...@kavun.ch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Blink Pro is a more sophisticated alternative with fabulous support for conferencing and extremely accessible. On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: Yep. It's simply called Telephone. Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:03:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? From: steve.holme...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Ok. I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac. Can this be brought back? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Lisette: Please permit me to answer your question. Once you have selected the contact who sent you the message in the table under the toolbar, VO right until you find the HTML content. Interact with this and VO Right until you hear the relevant message. Just FTR, mine seems to come up in the contacts table at the bottom of the screen. Vo Function Shift Left arrow on my MBP brings me to the tool bar at the top, and one VO Right from there gets me to the table, which I interact with and down to recent, or whatever. Seriously, people, what is the big deal here?1 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Hi Mark Thanks for this answer. But how do you even know someone, or who, has sent you a message? Lisette On 2/05/2012, at 6:36 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Lisette: Please permit me to answer your question. Once you have selected the contact who sent you the message in the table under the toolbar, VO right until you find the HTML content. Interact with this and VO Right until you hear the relevant message. Just FTR, mine seems to come up in the contacts table at the bottom of the screen. Vo Function Shift Left arrow on my MBP brings me to the tool bar at the top, and one VO Right from there gets me to the table, which I interact with and down to recent, or whatever. Seriously, people, what is the big deal here?1 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Sorry, Lisette, for the ending to my E-mail; it was specifically directed at those who complain of the inaccessibility of Skype, not at all at you. There are a few ways I know if someone's sent me a message; first, my Skype plays a sound when I get a message, if I'm not in the Skype window. Disappointingly, it does not emit such a sound alert when I am in the Skype window, so I usually Command Tab out of the window while waiting. Secondly, when I open Skype in the morning or whenever, I quickly look in the top table under the recent, sublevel and check if there are any new names there, and whether or not it says there are missed events. There's also a history, sublevel you can expand below the Recent level which will show you activity back to .. well to the Big Bang. , • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Hmm. Very interesting. I have voice-mail enabled on mine too, but have never used it. I don't have any credits, though. I wonder if that's the key. I don't use skype enough to justfy spending money on it, though, so I wonder if there's anyone else willing/able to experiment with this theory. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette wesseling Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:29 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Hi folks My husband and I got our macs only recently and I have just joined this list. My skype starts in the home screen, but my husband's starts in the contacts table. The only difference between us is that he has skype credits and voicemail activated, and I don't. Could this be the reason? We have compared our mac settings and can't see why our skype would start in different places. Neither of us have it connected to facebook. I don't think he has premium though - just a skype number and voicemail. Unless that is what they call premium. It's not a problem getting to the contacts table though, and I actually find skype quite easy to use on the Mac, no more difficult than under windows. Just one question: how do you read messages people send you? I really can't figure out how to do this. Thanks. Lisette On 2/05/2012, at 3:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I use Express Talk Pro. It is so ridiculously accessible I had it figured out in less than 5 minutes literally. Chris. - Original Message - From: Emrah li...@kavun.ch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Blink Pro is a more sophisticated alternative with fabulous support for conferencing and extremely accessible. On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: Yep. It's simply called Telephone. Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:03:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? From: steve.holme...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Ok. I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac. Can this be brought back? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Mine, which comes up in the contacts table, is also linked to a phone number that I pay for, and I have voice mail, but no mobile number or anything. Skype is my telephone as well as my internet telephone. Thinking of switching to Magic Jack though, cause everyone says my computer fans make too much noise... If that helps. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
do not know it just hapens. On 1 May 2012, at 05:04 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote: Wait, how do you get it to start in contacts? I have the free version and can't get it to do that either. May and Prince Noah On 2012-04-30, at 6:21 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: There use to be an edit field so that you could copy numbers and paste It use to be edit field, then 1 to 0 I have the skype Free version and it starts in the contacts. Skype is a fiddly program to use with all the interaction and you can't easily get to the missed events to see who and what they are and then to clear the events. Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 11:15 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: Which edit field are out talking about? In Dial Pad? How would that work? When you're dialing numbers, the touch tones are generated and go out like a telephone. Which edit field do you need back? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mac Mail question
Hi, How do I move an email from trash back to the inbox? In the edit menu, there doesn't seem to be a move to inbox command. I can't do undo as I deleted it a couple of days ago, but now want it back. I know it's there and I have both interacted with the table and the message line and the actual message itself. Thanks. Kirsten. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I know when I got Skype I went in to the preferences and can't remember where but unchecked the box for Face book. Then my Skype was normal starting in the contact list. I did this so long ago. Kawal. On 1 May 2012, at 04:47 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team.
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I've looked everywhere in preferences and can't find that. I wonder if finding it and unchecking it would help. If anyone knows where that is in preferences, I'd really appreciate finding out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I know when I got Skype I went in to the preferences and can't remember where but unchecked the box for Face book. Then my Skype was normal starting in the contact list. I did this so long ago. Kawal. On 1 May 2012, at 04:47 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
I too have credit and Voice mail. On 1 May 2012, at 07:28 PM, Lisette wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks My husband and I got our macs only recently and I have just joined this list. My skype starts in the home screen, but my husband's starts in the contacts table. The only difference between us is that he has skype credits and voicemail activated, and I don't. Could this be the reason? We have compared our mac settings and can't see why our skype would start in different places. Neither of us have it connected to facebook. I don't think he has premium though - just a skype number and voicemail. Unless that is what they call premium. It's not a problem getting to the contacts table though, and I actually find skype quite easy to use on the Mac, no more difficult than under windows. Just one question: how do you read messages people send you? I really can't figure out how to do this. Thanks. Lisette On 2/05/2012, at 3:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I use Express Talk Pro. It is so ridiculously accessible I had it figured out in less than 5 minutes literally. Chris. - Original Message - From: Emrah li...@kavun.ch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Blink Pro is a more sophisticated alternative with fabulous support for conferencing and extremely accessible. On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: Yep. It's simply called Telephone. Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:03:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? From: steve.holme...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Ok. I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac. Can this be brought back? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You
Re: Mac Mail question
Once you find it in Trash, Press VO M to go to the menu bar; go over to Message, and down to move to, submenu. Right arrow there and then press I, for Inbox, and enter. That will move the message from Trash to Inbox. If there are other messages in Trash that you wish to move to Inbox, you can simply find them and hit Command Option T. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
thanks, I tried to get help from them, but they can't help me if it's not doing it and I can't make it do it on command. It is a random thing every two or three times I turn the computer on. thanks though. I've just learned to deal with it. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hi there; i understand about not being able to make the trip, but most of the times we took my last computer in they didn't even charge me. there is a new 800 number for voiceover issues. i don't have it on hand, but someone on the list can give it to you. perhaps they could help you trouble shoot this. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
thanks. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: go to the desktop where it says mac hd and use the command i for inspector. then right arrow until it gives you the available space. but if you don't download movies or music, then that probably wasn't the problem. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: How do I check it? I don't put anything on my computer like music or anything, just documents. Please tell me how to look this up. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
I have that problem too. I've heard the little chirp that someone has sent me a message, but have no idea how to get to a message that I've been sent. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Lisette wesseling wrote: Hi folks My husband and I got our macs only recently and I have just joined this list. My skype starts in the home screen, but my husband's starts in the contacts table. The only difference between us is that he has skype credits and voicemail activated, and I don't. Could this be the reason? We have compared our mac settings and can't see why our skype would start in different places. Neither of us have it connected to facebook. I don't think he has premium though - just a skype number and voicemail. Unless that is what they call premium. It's not a problem getting to the contacts table though, and I actually find skype quite easy to use on the Mac, no more difficult than under windows. Just one question: how do you read messages people send you? I really can't figure out how to do this. Thanks. Lisette On 2/05/2012, at 3:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I use Express Talk Pro. It is so ridiculously accessible I had it figured out in less than 5 minutes literally. Chris. - Original Message - From: Emrah li...@kavun.ch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Blink Pro is a more sophisticated alternative with fabulous support for conferencing and extremely accessible. On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: Yep. It's simply called Telephone. Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:03:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? From: steve.holme...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Ok. I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac. Can this be brought back? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi Kevin. I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac. The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac fixed? If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get this sorted. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Because if you don't know who sent you the message, how do you know what contact to chose, that's the big deal. In windows you get a edit field where conversations are at list format so whoever contacts you via conversation just pops up with their name beside it so you can see who is instant messaging you. Again, you can't pick the proper contact if you don't know which one sent you a message. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Lisette: Please permit me to answer your question. Once you have selected the contact who sent you the message in the table under the toolbar, VO right until you find the HTML content. Interact with this and VO Right until you hear the relevant message. Just FTR, mine seems to come up in the contacts table at the bottom of the screen. Vo Function Shift Left arrow on my MBP brings me to the tool bar at the top, and one VO Right from there gets me to the table, which I interact with and down to recent, or whatever. Seriously, people, what is the big deal here?1 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
This is one thing that Growl DOES do very well; In Preferences' tool bar, click on Notifications, and then on the Details tab. If you need more help with it, let me know. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Jenny: When you go through the top table, you will hear it say something like, Mark BurningHawk, one missed event. That's how you know. I don't know how better to explain that. Also, if all else fails, all you have to do is select everyone in the recent, sublevel of the top table and then go to the HTML content window and interact with it and check there. Yo'll find it. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
sorry, sounds way to complicated for something that trivial. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Jenny: When you go through the top table, you will hear it say something like, Mark BurningHawk, one missed event. That's how you know. I don't know how better to explain that. Also, if all else fails, all you have to do is select everyone in the recent, sublevel of the top table and then go to the HTML content window and interact with it and check there. Yo'll find it. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warrenty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
Re: Problem with the app store on the iPhone
Hi again guys. I got the Color Visor app, finally. Am I going to have to answer these questions every time now? My bank has security questions, but they namely come up if I use a different computer like at my mom's house. Hey, Jan, I'm impressed already. I tried another color program which for me was useless. Yours told me right away some colors with the names of them instead numbers. Even I can handle that, I'm pretty color dumb. However, I've wanted one for washing clothes to sort the dark ones from the light ones. Maybe I can even learn how to use it to match clothes that I haven't yet gotten around to marking according to color the old-fashioned way. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: No no. You pick questions with the 3 picker items, and then fill in the answers to each. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfEugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Ok, but I can't figure out which ones it wants. I remember putting in questions at one point when I set up things, but knows which of those checkbox things I did. If the ones I am supposed to check for the answer are in red, I'm in trouble since I can't ee the screen and there is no hint from VoiceOver on it. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The security questions are an extra precaution against Apple ID theft, and other such security breeches. You have to fill out all 3 before you can download anything at all. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfEugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Hi guys, especially the folks at Accessibility I just tried to download Jan's app. I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. I can accept that I may need to reset my iPhone because it demanded security questions which it never did before. Ok, fine. However, I was supposed to fill out three, but dumb did one. However, when it caste back with the prompt, it said The items in red b not been completed. I gave up for now until I have time to figure out things. Irritated for the moment, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
You don't by any chance have file vault turned on do you? Go to system preferences: Find the Security and Privacy panel. In this panel is a tab called File Vault It should list your disk and tell you that file vault is turned off/ or on. You are aware that for non-file vault systems, you can configure the login screen to use voice over and that you can even toggle voice over on/off with command-F5 in the standard login screen? Best wishes, JOnathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
Re: Problem with the app store on the iPhone
NO, you won't have to answer every time, just for the more secure transactions probably changing password and credit card information. Best wishes, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi again guys. I got the Color Visor app, finally. Am I going to have to answer these questions every time now? My bank has security questions, but they namely come up if I use a different computer like at my mom's house. Hey, Jan, I'm impressed already. I tried another color program which for me was useless. Yours told me right away some colors with the names of them instead numbers. Even I can handle that, I'm pretty color dumb. However, I've wanted one for washing clothes to sort the dark ones from the light ones. Maybe I can even learn how to use it to match clothes that I haven't yet gotten around to marking according to color the old-fashioned way. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: No no. You pick questions with the 3 picker items, and then fill in the answers to each. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfEugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Ok, but I can't figure out which ones it wants. I remember putting in questions at one point when I set up things, but knows which of those checkbox things I did. If the ones I am supposed to check for the answer are in red, I'm in trouble since I can't ee the screen and there is no hint from VoiceOver on it. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The security questions are an extra precaution against Apple ID theft, and other such security breeches. You have to fill out all 3 before you can download anything at all. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfEugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Hi guys, especially the folks at Accessibility I just tried to download Jan's app. I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. I can accept that I may need to reset my iPhone because it demanded security questions which it never did before. Ok, fine. However, I was supposed to fill out three, but dumb did one. However, when it caste back with the prompt, it said The items in red b not been completed. I gave up for now until I have time to figure out things. Irritated for the moment, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
Re: web navigation?
Up / down arrows will move the web rotar selection and left right will move by chunks. Do you use Group or Dom navigation? Best wishes, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote: I have quick nav on. However, the left/right arrows don't seem to navigate reliably (I ended up at the bottom of a page, and you can't read by smaller chunks inside, say, a paragraph of text). Say you're reading an article and aren't sure how an oddly spoken phrase is spelled. On Windows, or in an edit area on Mac, you'd arrow to the line, then move word by word to the phrase, then read word by word or character by character. How would you do this (efficiently, not by moving the rotor all over the place and hoping you don't hit the wrong key and jump out of the entire article) in Chrome or Safari? Even the lines setting on the rotor is not very useful - I still have no idea what it thinks a line is, and it never seems to move me anywhere. On 4/29/12, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven't had much luck with chrome vox. All it does is crash chrome on my machine. If you want to just navigate with arrows, you should just turn on quick nav by pressing the left and right arrow keys at the same time. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it might be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different for arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates at a smaller incrment. So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by word. In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object navigation will navigate by table cell. I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, DOM mode navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode combines major clusters of information and will navigate as things are layed out on the screen to the most part. Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about reading and navigating web pages. 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is better? 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like they do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web rotor as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text navigation way. Thanks in advance. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
I second Jonhathan's remarks here. Apple provides a 1 year warantee for all their computers at a minimum and if you can dig up a spare $99 before this June, you can extend your coverage for an additional two years; that's the Apple Care program. Anyway, without the Apple Care, you can still get that box down to an Apple store before June and it shouldn't cost you a dime. You should not be experiencing random behavior with your machine; at least not having to log in sometimes and other times not. Maybe one way to get something consistent could be to go into your system preferences and go bback to requiring a login and while in there, set login options to use VoiceOver. You can find all this under System Preferences - User options. I don't have my machine in front of me right now so cannot give you more exact information. At least then perhaps you could have speech the whole time and just login each time; VO should come up each time the login completes. See, VO runs during the login screen, then it turns off depending on who logs in and then if you previously had VO running in that user session, then VO will come back on. Hope this isn't too confusing. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: thanks. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: go to the desktop where it says mac hd and use the command i for inspector. then right arrow until it gives you the available space. but if you don't download movies or music, then that probably wasn't the problem. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: How do I check it? I don't put anything on my computer like music or anything, just documents. Please tell me how to look this up. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
What if you don't want to log in, you just want it to go to the desk top? Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: You don't by any chance have file vault turned on do you? Go to system preferences: Find the Security and Privacy panel. In this panel is a tab called File Vault It should list your disk and tell you that file vault is turned off/ or on. You are aware that for non-file vault systems, you can configure the login screen to use voice over and that you can even toggle voice over on/off with command-F5 in the standard login screen? Best wishes, JOnathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Yes, mine is connected to Facebook, and has been way before this most recent version. Even when it wasn't though, skype has always gone to my contacts at first. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only run it periodically to check for updates in hopes that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and again, and there simply isn't a way to configure how the program starts. To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim that they don't have this problem. I'd be more than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with Skype Team. Hi
Re: Problem with the app store on the iPhone
Ok, thanks Jonathan. I had visions of having to do this every time I went to iTunes or anything else like that. It's amazing how rattled you can get when you're in a hurry, don't know that something new has been added for you to put in, and then you can't figure it out because your time is limited. Note to oneself, don't do something like this when you're in a hurry. I think I would have figured it out if I hadn't been in a hurry, needing to get back to work so I can more stuff from iTunes or the iPad. I do have one question which is not related to the problem I had today, but it relates to the app store. I may have to call about this. About a couple of weeks ago I bought a copy of the King James version of the Bible from the app store that has links on it. It's on my iPhone now, and iTunes sent me a receipt on it. Now, every time I go to app store or iTunes to purchase anything, I get first an error telling me that the Bible can't be purchased now, and I have to choose ok to proceed. Any ideas of what I should do about that? Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: NO, you won't have to answer every time, just for the more secure transactions probably changing password and credit card information. Best wishes, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi again guys. I got the Color Visor app, finally. Am I going to have to answer these questions every time now? My bank has security questions, but they namely come up if I use a different computer like at my mom's house. Hey, Jan, I'm impressed already. I tried another color program which for me was useless. Yours told me right away some colors with the names of them instead numbers. Even I can handle that, I'm pretty color dumb. However, I've wanted one for washing clothes to sort the dark ones from the light ones. Maybe I can even learn how to use it to match clothes that I haven't yet gotten around to marking according to color the old-fashioned way. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: No no. You pick questions with the 3 picker items, and then fill in the answers to each. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfEugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Ok, but I can't figure out which ones it wants. I remember putting in questions at one point when I set up things, but knows which of those checkbox things I did. If the ones I am supposed to check for the answer are in red, I'm in trouble since I can't ee the screen and there is no hint from VoiceOver on it. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The security questions are an extra precaution against Apple ID theft, and other such security breeches. You have to fill out all 3 before you can download anything at all. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfEugenia Firth Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Problem with the app store on the iPhone Hi guys, especially the folks at Accessibility I just tried to download Jan's app. I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. I can accept that I may need to reset my iPhone because it demanded security questions which it never did before. Ok, fine. However, I was supposed to fill out three, but dumb did one. However, when it caste back with the prompt, it said The items in red b not been completed. I gave up for now until I have time to figure out things. Irritated for the moment, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote: Hallo MacVisionaries, my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. You will find the app on the App Store at http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor More information about the app can be found on my web site at http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ and there is an AppleVis app test at http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in general are very much appreciated. Greetings from Dresden (Germany) Jan Blueher --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Now available on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8ls=1 --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
You can do it either way. Look around the User options under System preferences. I forget what the option is called exactly but there is something to specify to Automatically login. But in case this keeps acting up on you, you may want to check the VoiceOver at login option also. I mentioned this in my last message but you may not have seen that one yet. Oh, if I had that much transportation trouble, I'd give my home teachers a call (LDS right?) If they have the time and are any good at all, they should be able to help you out or refer someone to help you out. that's one beauty of our church. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: What if you don't want to log in, you just want it to go to the desk top? Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: You don't by any chance have file vault turned on do you? Go to system preferences: Find the Security and Privacy panel. In this panel is a tab called File Vault It should list your disk and tell you that file vault is turned off/ or on. You are aware that for non-file vault systems, you can configure the login screen to use voice over and that you can even toggle voice over on/off with command-F5 in the standard login screen? Best wishes, JOnathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
RE: voiceover won't cooperate
Hello Jenny, Admittedly, I have not been paying close attention to this thread so forgive me for suggesting something that has already been posted but, have you considered turning off the login screen? All things being equal and security concerns aside, if you are the only user, there really is no reason to have it activated at startup. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover won't cooperate I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Well, the consensus seems to be that you do indeed have to pay for skype or have credit for it to start in the contacts list. I think this is the dumbest move ever on the programmers' part, and very shameful that we have to pay for such basic functionality, but I did confirm it. Skype was a lot more affordible than I thought, so I bought a year's subscription to the US for $30. Sure enough, skype now allows me to start in the contacts list. There's a part of me that is ashamed to have rewarded such a dispicable practice, but I'm hoping that over time, the subscription will pay for itself. So, over all, I have very mixed emotions right now. I'm happy that skype is behaving as it should, but angry that I had to pay money for this functionality to be achieved. I hope this helps someone; I guess that my investment will be worth it if it helps to improve accessibility for someone else. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Yes, mine is connected to Facebook, and has been way before this most recent version. Even when it wasn't though, skype has always gone to my contacts at first. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Wow! I wonder what those of us who can't get it to start up in the contacts list are doing wrong? Is yours connected to facebook? This is getting curiouser and curiouser. I'm still irritated by the idea that this is supposedly a premium feature, when it should just be a given option if desired. Not sure I'm articulating that right, but how can having the program start somewhere that's actually be considered a premium? That should count as basic functionality, and for those who are able to get it started in the contacts list, I'd love to know what they're doing differently, so I can try to fix mine. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? Hmm! I know I have the latest version of Skype, and mine always starts in the contact list. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't honestly see the point of paying for a feature that was free in previous versions. video conferencing I can understand, but this? I DON'T THINK SO! It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to soak us for more money, especially considering that their flagship product (windows 7) had such a poor showing over the last 4 years (millions of corporate machines still running XP). -eric On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: This was a change made in Skype 5.X. It's possible that your friend is running an earlier version of Skype, e.g. V2.X. Please Skype.com for pricing details. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't sound at all right or fair. How much is this skype premium. If it's cheap, and there isn't a monthly fee, I might consider it, but it never used to be that way, and if that's the case, how is it possible that at least 1 person I've talked to who is also using the free version is able to start in contacts like it used to do? I'm not trying to complain or be difficult; am just genuinely puzzled by this. Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium. FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 complaint with skype on the mac. When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively difficult
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I don't understand why it's so important that Skype come up with the focus other than in the contacts lists? I seek an explanation of why it matters. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Priorities
Hi Paul and Shawn. Technically, there is already a tax credit for accessibility. I haven't looked it up in some time since I retired in 2005, but this credit is extensive for architectual barrier removal. I haven't researched it lately as I said, but it could be amended, with all that entails, to encompass computer accessibility. For some companies, especially for those who only pay attention to the bottom line, it have to be a big credit, and it would be even better, I think for us if the law could be amended in such a way that disabilities like ours, which require more accessilility work, would get a company more credit. I think make sure of that, you find some companies doing a little tinkering around with small changes and calling it accessibility to get the credit. Also, if we ran Congress, we'd want to make it retroactive say, for the last three years. Hey, we'd want to be fair to Apple after all who got on the stick before just about everybody else. Tax laws and credits have been made retroactive before. Oh, yes, and e'd want our credit to apply to corporations as well as to 1040 filers. That way, small developers could apply for it. Regards, Gigi i think this might work better than a tax imposed on each individual, considering the number of devices and companies involved in administering much tax. However, an accessibility credit is already on the books and the administration for it is basically already in place. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Sean. This is a great idea and I would be interested in discussing it further. I had thought that we could impose an accessibility tax to be levied on everyone who buys a piece of electronic equipment. The money could be put into a fund and grants be given to companies that agree to develop accessible stuff to defray their RD costs. Your idea is much more proactive. I just wonder how to make this happen?On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: All. I would raise a different slant on the whole discussion. No one took this up before in one of my prior posts. This is a concept and please treat it as an idea. If people want to discuss this off line to see if it could be actually adopted. Then please let me know. I am more then happy to discuss. A we all know Business only cares about the bottom line. Since this is the situation. A solution to our problems is to become investors. So how can we as a group become investors? Being individual investor will not have the same impact as if we do it as a group. Let me put up some figures. If 10 million people in the USA put $10.00 into a investment fund per month. This would give the group $1.00 per month or 1.2 billion a year. If you extend this to a international level and got another 20 million people. Then the yearly amount grows to 3.6 billion dollars a year. Having this type of yearly funds for investing into companies. Their attitudes towards accessibility or what I would prefer to say Universal design will quickly change. Since this type of money could place the fund managers who ever they are on boards of companies due to amount of shares held by the investment fund. Basically what I have outlined is a different approach of changing peoples attitude by playing the same game. I believe there is at least 10 million or more people world wide that could afford $10.00 per month. Of course there are those who cannot. But they would benefit anyway. Before you shoot the idea down. Stop and think about if we had as a community this type of money. What changes could be done. The fund could be open to anyone who wants to help. It could even be open to all disabilities. That makes the numbers bigger and making the pool of investment larger. Investing into proactive companies like Apple would ensure they continue doing there good job. Informing companies like publishers that we will invest x million per month over the next x months if I believe would quickly change their attitude. So take off the blinkers everyone and see what this idea could do to change the world of technology? Ideas or comments are more then welcomed. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
The problem a lot of us were having is that ever since skype 5.3 or so, focus was not on the contact list when the program started. It was on Skype home instead. If the free versions of skype started in the contact list by default like it did when I first got my mac, then I, for 1, probably wouldn't be complaining too much. Now that I've paid for it, however, the behavior that should have already been standard does occur, but I still maintain that being forced to pay for this basic functionality is almost criminal. When skype started on that skype home thing, it was very frustrating, especially for those of us who are either still new to the mac, or simply don't want to deal with a bunch of pointless navigation. I hope this clarifies things for you a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't understand why it's so important that Skype come up with the focus other than in the contacts lists? I seek an explanation of why it matters. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I have been following this thread but not thoroughly at times, so pardon me if I missed anything. I understand that the regular Mac Skype goes to the Home page on startup, and that Skype Premium doesn't or can be made not to, not sure which. So far though, I am not convinced that the idea was to make people pay for the privilege of having Skype start on a different control. I think it's an accident, or a side effect of something else about Skype Premium. My point is that I don't think Microsoft is specifically trying to charge you money for that particular convenience. I thought I saw others in this thread who managed to get a current Skype, not Premium, to land on the Contact list on startup. If so, may one or two of them please speak up and verify this, and if possible, start working out how that might have come to work for some people and not for others. Again, apologies if I misread, or completely failed to read, anything in this discussion. On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:27:12PM -0400, Missy Hoppe wrote: The problem a lot of us were having is that ever since skype 5.3 or so, focus was not on the contact list when the program started. It was on Skype home instead. If the free versions of skype started in the contact list by default like it did when I first got my mac, then I, for 1, probably wouldn't be complaining too much. Now that I've paid for it, however, the behavior that should have already been standard does occur, but I still maintain that being forced to pay for this basic functionality is almost criminal. When skype started on that skype home thing, it was very frustrating, especially for those of us who are either still new to the mac, or simply don't want to deal with a bunch of pointless navigation. I hope this clarifies things for you a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't understand why it's so important that Skype come up with the focus other than in the contacts lists? I seek an explanation of why it matters. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Doug Lee d...@dlee.orghttp://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group doug@ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled. --anon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail question
Thanks, I was looking in the wrong menu then. On 1 May 2012, at 20:14, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Once you find it in Trash, Press VO M to go to the menu bar; go over to Message, and down to move to, submenu. Right arrow there and then press I, for Inbox, and enter. That will move the message from Trash to Inbox. If there are other messages in Trash that you wish to move to Inbox, you can simply find them and hit Command Option T. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I'm sorry, but it does not. Skype home is merely an HTML window; even if Skype's focus started there, merely stop interacting with the HTML content, VO left to the table, interact, then down to recent or whatever. There's no complex navigation involved. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Absolutely right Missy, you got that right and it was a mess and very confusing for someone who was new to the Mac. I for one was confused with interacting and if it was not for the patience of someone who helped me with the Mac in the first place, I'd not be where I am with the Mac today so I'm always grateful to the person who helped me. Kawal. On 1 May 2012, at 10:27 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: The problem a lot of us were having is that ever since skype 5.3 or so, focus was not on the contact list when the program started. It was on Skype home instead. If the free versions of skype started in the contact list by default like it did when I first got my mac, then I, for 1, probably wouldn't be complaining too much. Now that I've paid for it, however, the behavior that should have already been standard does occur, but I still maintain that being forced to pay for this basic functionality is almost criminal. When skype started on that skype home thing, it was very frustrating, especially for those of us who are either still new to the mac, or simply don't want to deal with a bunch of pointless navigation. I hope this clarifies things for you a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't understand why it's so important that Skype come up with the focus other than in the contacts lists? I seek an explanation of why it matters. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
I am one those people whose Skype starts on the list of contacts. Mine has always done that even after downloading skype afresh. I am wondering however, could it be that since I've always had a Skype account since Skype came out that nothing had changed? The reason for this is because when Skype was bought by Ebay, they were going to tie it with Face Book but those us who had Skype in the first place would not be affected as Ebay were to put adverts in which wouldn't affect us who had credit ETC. What do people think of my theory? Kawal. On 1 May 2012, at 10:45 PM, Doug Lee d...@dlee.org wrote: I have been following this thread but not thoroughly at times, so pardon me if I missed anything. I understand that the regular Mac Skype goes to the Home page on startup, and that Skype Premium doesn't or can be made not to, not sure which. So far though, I am not convinced that the idea was to make people pay for the privilege of having Skype start on a different control. I think it's an accident, or a side effect of something else about Skype Premium. My point is that I don't think Microsoft is specifically trying to charge you money for that particular convenience. I thought I saw others in this thread who managed to get a current Skype, not Premium, to land on the Contact list on startup. If so, may one or two of them please speak up and verify this, and if possible, start working out how that might have come to work for some people and not for others. Again, apologies if I misread, or completely failed to read, anything in this discussion. On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:27:12PM -0400, Missy Hoppe wrote: The problem a lot of us were having is that ever since skype 5.3 or so, focus was not on the contact list when the program started. It was on Skype home instead. If the free versions of skype started in the contact list by default like it did when I first got my mac, then I, for 1, probably wouldn't be complaining too much. Now that I've paid for it, however, the behavior that should have already been standard does occur, but I still maintain that being forced to pay for this basic functionality is almost criminal. When skype started on that skype home thing, it was very frustrating, especially for those of us who are either still new to the mac, or simply don't want to deal with a bunch of pointless navigation. I hope this clarifies things for you a little. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I don't understand why it's so important that Skype come up with the focus other than in the contacts lists? I seek an explanation of why it matters. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Doug Lee d...@dlee.orghttp://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group doug@ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled. --anon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail question
Hi there! You can also open VO+shift+m and in that menu arrow down to the move sub menu! And there is also a move again which is set to the last mailbox you sent something to! hth Colin On 1 May 2012, at 22:57, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: Thanks, I was looking in the wrong menu then. On 1 May 2012, at 20:14, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Once you find it in Trash, Press VO M to go to the menu bar; go over to Message, and down to move to, submenu. Right arrow there and then press I, for Inbox, and enter. That will move the message from Trash to Inbox. If there are other messages in Trash that you wish to move to Inbox, you can simply find them and hit Command Option T. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Hi. I would think that iTunes for a new Mac user would be way more difficult to tackle than a small bit of navigation through Skype. I think it's all in the user's head about how difficult such a small bit of navigation could be. There's the finder, mail, Safari, the previously mentioned iTunes, and even the setup of the Mac has lots moor navigation. If a new user goes through the VO tutorial like the should be doing, applications like Skype shouldn't really be an issue. Just my thoughts. On 2012-05-01, at 5:11 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I don't understand why it's so important that Skype come up with the focus other than in the contacts lists? I seek an explanation of why it matters. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Hi Jenny! would you like skype to tell you who has left a message or do you prefer having a sound! Because you can tell skype to speak events in stead of playing a sound! Colin On 1 May 2012, at 20:53, Jenny Keller wrote: sorry, sounds way to complicated for something that trivial. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Jenny: When you go through the top table, you will hear it say something like, Mark BurningHawk, one missed event. That's how you know. I don't know how better to explain that. Also, if all else fails, all you have to do is select everyone in the recent, sublevel of the top table and then go to the HTML content window and interact with it and check there. Yo'll find it. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
you know i could be having that problem and not even know it because i rarely shut my macbook down. i hardly ever did with my leopard machine and rarely do it in the lion. i just close the lid. when i open it it comes right out of sleep mode. sorry i couldn't help. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: thanks, I tried to get help from them, but they can't help me if it's not doing it and I can't make it do it on command. It is a random thing every two or three times I turn the computer on. thanks though. I've just learned to deal with it. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hi there; i understand about not being able to make the trip, but most of the times we took my last computer in they didn't even charge me. there is a new 800 number for voiceover issues. i don't have it on hand, but someone on the list can give it to you. perhaps they could help you trouble shoot this. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Lost my mailboxes table in mac mail
Hi all Please can somebody tell me how to get my mailboxes table back. I can only see my inbox and tabbing doesn't get me to my mailboxes table. It just takes me to message content group. I've probably just pressed something I shouldn't have. Thanks so much. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lost my mailboxes table in mac mail
THere should be an option in the View menu, but the shortcut is command-shift-M. Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Lisette wesseling wrote: Hi all Please can somebody tell me how to get my mailboxes table back. I can only see my inbox and tabbing doesn't get me to my mailboxes table. It just takes me to message content group. I've probably just pressed something I shouldn't have. Thanks so much. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Solved getting icons to read when changing mailboxes.
Hi everyone! I figured this out today and thought I'd share it here in case it helped anyone else. Just in case it matters, I didn't make smart mailboxes, only regular dumb ones. grin. When I'd arrow through my mailboxes table to choose a mailbox, then when I'd tab back to the messages table VO would only read one icon, rather than reading all that I'd chosen. First I figured out that each time I selected a mailbox, if I then exited mail and opened it again, that first mailbox would behave properly. Now I've figured out that when I go into the messages table, if I am on a message, ask VO to interact, VO says no text to interact with, then I uninteract with this nothing, then everything reads fine in that bunch of messages. It shouldn't be, and it's a bit weird, but at least I have a work-around. I'd be curious to hear from any of you who have multiple mailboxes set up. Oh, by the way, I'm using pop mail. Anyway, I hope this helps someone. Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
screen reader survey
Hey everyone, the fourth screen reader survey from web aim is now available, I would encourage everyone to participate so voiceover gets a good useage rading, here is the link. http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Question about Bootcamp
I'm pretty sure the short answer to this question will be technically?... yes... The long answer will probably be, yes, and no. Technically speaking, Bootcamp is made for either Windows Vista, or Windows 7. Is there a way however that I could set up a bootcamp partition, then install UBuntu, Vinux, or F123 Linux? preferably either the last two of the three. I know I could do this in VMWare Fusion, ok, fine, that's fair, but that's not exactly what I'm wanting to do for various reasons. For another thing, being I'm an audio engineer, I want to keep my mac partition free of pretty much anything non audio related for my studio workflow. Thanks. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lost my mailboxes table in mac mail
Oh I knew there was an easy answer. Thank you very much. In my gmail account I can't see the spam, starred, all mail, travel folders anymore. There's just an mailbox called blank under trash with nothing in it. I don't think I've changed any of my gmail settings. Should I be in full screen mode? Thanks for helping a new user. On 2/05/2012, at 11:21 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: THere should be an option in the View menu, but the shortcut is command-shift-M. Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Lisette wesseling wrote: Hi all Please can somebody tell me how to get my mailboxes table back. I can only see my inbox and tabbing doesn't get me to my mailboxes table. It just takes me to message content group. I've probably just pressed something I shouldn't have. Thanks so much. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about Bootcamp
I think so. I use the Refit boot loader (I may have that name wrong) to boot Mac OS and Windows. I don't see why I couldn't set up another partition, though. I'm sure google will have plenty of in-depth articles and tutorials about this. Note that you will need sighted help to set up some of this, at least I did. On 5/1/12, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure the short answer to this question will be technically?... yes... The long answer will probably be, yes, and no. Technically speaking, Bootcamp is made for either Windows Vista, or Windows 7. Is there a way however that I could set up a bootcamp partition, then install UBuntu, Vinux, or F123 Linux? preferably either the last two of the three. I know I could do this in VMWare Fusion, ok, fine, that's fair, but that's not exactly what I'm wanting to do for various reasons. For another thing, being I'm an audio engineer, I want to keep my mac partition free of pretty much anything non audio related for my studio workflow. Thanks. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: web navigation?
I've tried both, but I have no idea which is better, or even what the difference really is. I have read the help for it, and I am very familiar with what a DOM is, but i can't see a difference between the functionality of both modes when I'm using either one. Yes, I have the arrow keys down well enough. However, back to my original question: if there's a long p element (paragraph), how do I read line by line, word by word, and so on? Right arrowing will just skip the whole thing, or jump to the top of it if I move back to it. On 5/1/12, Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net wrote: Up / down arrows will move the web rotar selection and left right will move by chunks. Do you use Group or Dom navigation? Best wishes, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote: I have quick nav on. However, the left/right arrows don't seem to navigate reliably (I ended up at the bottom of a page, and you can't read by smaller chunks inside, say, a paragraph of text). Say you're reading an article and aren't sure how an oddly spoken phrase is spelled. On Windows, or in an edit area on Mac, you'd arrow to the line, then move word by word to the phrase, then read word by word or character by character. How would you do this (efficiently, not by moving the rotor all over the place and hoping you don't hit the wrong key and jump out of the entire article) in Chrome or Safari? Even the lines setting on the rotor is not very useful - I still have no idea what it thinks a line is, and it never seems to move me anywhere. On 4/29/12, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven't had much luck with chrome vox. All it does is crash chrome on my machine. If you want to just navigate with arrows, you should just turn on quick nav by pressing the left and right arrow keys at the same time. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it might be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different for arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates at a smaller incrment. So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by word. In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object navigation will navigate by table cell. I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, DOM mode navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode combines major clusters of information and will navigate as things are layed out on the screen to the most part. Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about reading and navigating web pages. 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is better? 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like they do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web rotor as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text navigation way. Thanks in advance. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Sounds like a lot of steps for checking who skiped you. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Lisette: Please permit me to answer your question. Once you have selected the contact who sent you the message in the table under the toolbar, VO right until you find the HTML content. Interact with this and VO Right until you hear the relevant message. Just FTR, mine seems to come up in the contacts table at the bottom of the screen. Vo Function Shift Left arrow on my MBP brings me to the tool bar at the top, and one VO Right from there gets me to the table, which I interact with and down to recent, or whatever. Seriously, people, what is the big deal here?1 . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
Hi, Mark. It isn't so much that navigating out of skype home to find contacts is difficult; it isn't. It's just tedius and should be unnecessary if folks want the program to start in the contacts list. Even though I know mac commands now and they only take a few seconds, I still find them more complex than most things on the PC, and like I said, especially for new mac users, this extra navigation, even if it is fairly simple, might seem overwhelming. I think I'm pretty much done with this topic. Although the resolution to the problem isn't 1 I think is right or fair, the mystery seems to have been solved, so there really isn't much more to be said. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? I'm sorry, but it does not. Skype home is merely an HTML window; even if Skype's focus started there, merely stop interacting with the HTML content, VO left to the table, interact, then down to recent or whatever. There's no complex navigation involved. . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
I second Mark on this. What is the big deal? It really is not that difficult, trust us. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kimsan kim...@blindaccesstraining.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Sounds like a lot of steps for checking who skiped you. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Lisette: Please permit me to answer your question. Once you have selected the contact who sent you the message in the table under the toolbar, VO right until you find the HTML content. Interact with this and VO Right until you hear the relevant message. Just FTR, mine seems to come up in the contacts table at the bottom of the screen. Vo Function Shift Left arrow on my MBP brings me to the tool bar at the top, and one VO Right from there gets me to the table, which I interact with and down to recent, or whatever. Seriously, people, what is the big deal here?1 . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about Bootcamp
Boot Camp will go with Windows Natively, no need for the Refit loader, I don't think, but for whatever reason, I don't think the system will like that partition being turned into a linux one. I mean, I'm not sure how the Mac will take to making a Windows partition, booting a Ubuntu Live CD, and then turning the partition into the linux type. I thought I read that the problem has to do with the EFI firmware on mac's instead of the normal PC Bios that it may not boot the linux partition. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 6:54 PM Subject: Re: Question about Bootcamp I think so. I use the Refit boot loader (I may have that name wrong) to boot Mac OS and Windows. I don't see why I couldn't set up another partition, though. I'm sure google will have plenty of in-depth articles and tutorials about this. Note that you will need sighted help to set up some of this, at least I did. On 5/1/12, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure the short answer to this question will be technically?... yes... The long answer will probably be, yes, and no. Technically speaking, Bootcamp is made for either Windows Vista, or Windows 7. Is there a way however that I could set up a bootcamp partition, then install UBuntu, Vinux, or F123 Linux? preferably either the last two of the three. I know I could do this in VMWare Fusion, ok, fine, that's fair, but that's not exactly what I'm wanting to do for various reasons. For another thing, being I'm an audio engineer, I want to keep my mac partition free of pretty much anything non audio related for my studio workflow. Thanks. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Question about itunes store
Good evening, all! I had a weird thing happen for the first time when buying music from the itunes store. One of the songs I bought refuses to download, claiming that the file is corrupt. I've tried checking for available downloads multiple times, but keep getting the same error. Also, in the same mini shopping spree, I got an album where some of the track titles were wrong, and were, in fact duplicates of other tracks on the same album. I've never had problems like this with the Itunes store, and am wondering how I might go about getting tech support or requesting a refund for the song I wasn't able to download and the ones which were listed on the album but really weren't there. Would I just call Apple, or is there an email address I should contact. I tried looking at help on the itunes store, but couldn't find anything that fit either of the situations I'm experiencing. Thank you all for your time, and any advice you may have would be extremely appreciated. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about itunes store
Hello Missy, I had this problem myself and it seemed to fix itself once I restarted my computer. HTH, Ezzie Bueno Sent from my Macbook Pro ezziebu...@gmail.com (323) 448-0757 Check out daily jokes and more! www.SillyEz.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/SillyEz Twitter: http://twitter.com/SillyEz On May 1, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Good evening, all! I had a weird thing happen for the first time when buying music from the itunes store. One of the songs I bought refuses to download, claiming that the file is corrupt. I've tried checking for available downloads multiple times, but keep getting the same error. Also, in the same mini shopping spree, I got an album where some of the track titles were wrong, and were, in fact duplicates of other tracks on the same album. I've never had problems like this with the Itunes store, and am wondering how I might go about getting tech support or requesting a refund for the song I wasn't able to download and the ones which were listed on the album but really weren't there. Would I just call Apple, or is there an email address I should contact. I tried looking at help on the itunes store, but couldn't find anything that fit either of the situations I'm experiencing. Thank you all for your time, and any advice you may have would be extremely appreciated. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Question about itunes store
Thanks! It's worth a try. I guess if it doesn't work, I can try calling Apple tomorrow. They might be able to point me in the right direction on how to get money back if need be. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ezzie Bueno Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about itunes store Hello Missy, I had this problem myself and it seemed to fix itself once I restarted my computer. HTH, Ezzie Bueno Sent from my Macbook Pro ezziebu...@gmail.com (323) 448-0757 Check out daily jokes and more! www.SillyEz.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/SillyEz Twitter: http://twitter.com/SillyEz On May 1, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Good evening, all! I had a weird thing happen for the first time when buying music from the itunes store. One of the songs I bought refuses to download, claiming that the file is corrupt. I've tried checking for available downloads multiple times, but keep getting the same error. Also, in the same mini shopping spree, I got an album where some of the track titles were wrong, and were, in fact duplicates of other tracks on the same album. I've never had problems like this with the Itunes store, and am wondering how I might go about getting tech support or requesting a refund for the song I wasn't able to download and the ones which were listed on the album but really weren't there. Would I just call Apple, or is there an email address I should contact. I tried looking at help on the itunes store, but couldn't find anything that fit either of the situations I'm experiencing. Thank you all for your time, and any advice you may have would be extremely appreciated. Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
I said, it sounds like a lot of steps not that I have a problem with it lol. I'm still 80% windows so cut me some slack smile! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) I second Mark on this. What is the big deal? It really is not that difficult, trust us. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kimsan kim...@blindaccesstraining.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Sounds like a lot of steps for checking who skiped you. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) Lisette: Please permit me to answer your question. Once you have selected the contact who sent you the message in the table under the toolbar, VO right until you find the HTML content. Interact with this and VO Right until you hear the relevant message. Just FTR, mine seems to come up in the contacts table at the bottom of the screen. Vo Function Shift Left arrow on my MBP brings me to the tool bar at the top, and one VO Right from there gets me to the table, which I interact with and down to recent, or whatever. Seriously, people, what is the big deal here?1 . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail question
Also, you can cut the message with ctrl-X and then paste it wherever you want it. This is what I usually do, it works great. On May 1, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! You can also open VO+shift+m and in that menu arrow down to the move sub menu! And there is also a move again which is set to the last mailbox you sent something to! hth Colin On 1 May 2012, at 22:57, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: Thanks, I was looking in the wrong menu then. On 1 May 2012, at 20:14, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Once you find it in Trash, Press VO M to go to the menu bar; go over to Message, and down to move to, submenu. Right arrow there and then press I, for Inbox, and enter. That will move the message from Trash to Inbox. If there are other messages in Trash that you wish to move to Inbox, you can simply find them and hit Command Option T. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about Bootcamp
The boot loader may not be necessary, but it makes life easy: I hit m to boot mac os or w to boot windows when the machine starts, and it does its thing. I forgot it used non-standard BIOS. Still, if you use a live cd of linux to format a partition correctly, I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. Again, google can answer this one way or the other, and I recommend doing thorough research before doing anything else. On 5/1/12, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote: Boot Camp will go with Windows Natively, no need for the Refit loader, I don't think, but for whatever reason, I don't think the system will like that partition being turned into a linux one. I mean, I'm not sure how the Mac will take to making a Windows partition, booting a Ubuntu Live CD, and then turning the partition into the linux type. I thought I read that the problem has to do with the EFI firmware on mac's instead of the normal PC Bios that it may not boot the linux partition. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 6:54 PM Subject: Re: Question about Bootcamp I think so. I use the Refit boot loader (I may have that name wrong) to boot Mac OS and Windows. I don't see why I couldn't set up another partition, though. I'm sure google will have plenty of in-depth articles and tutorials about this. Note that you will need sighted help to set up some of this, at least I did. On 5/1/12, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure the short answer to this question will be technically?... yes... The long answer will probably be, yes, and no. Technically speaking, Bootcamp is made for either Windows Vista, or Windows 7. Is there a way however that I could set up a bootcamp partition, then install UBuntu, Vinux, or F123 Linux? preferably either the last two of the three. I know I could do this in VMWare Fusion, ok, fine, that's fair, but that's not exactly what I'm wanting to do for various reasons. For another thing, being I'm an audio engineer, I want to keep my mac partition free of pretty much anything non audio related for my studio workflow. Thanks. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
