Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Justin Ekis]

Hi Cheryl,

I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they mean. 
Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must be when 
other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was just their 
example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some other examples would 
be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain apps like adium, 
Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. Another example is apps 
that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If you configure the 
Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time or to speak alerts 
after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use the voice on it's own 
while voiceover is running will apparently cause that problem with the demo.

I hope this explanation makes sense.

 On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
> can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and said 
> they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and told them 
> I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
> 
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> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It appears 
>> that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 app. See 
>> below.
>> Dear Shawn,
>> 
>> We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur when 
>> two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For example Voice 
>> Over and another application. 
>> 
>> We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. I'm 
>> afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask you to 
>> test the voices with one voice application only.
>> 
>> Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
>> voices.
>> 
>> Wit kind regards,
>> 
>> Martijn
>> 
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my white Mac Book
>> 
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Re: Other Mainstream Mac Lists

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
The Apple corps of Dallas which is at acd.us has a Mac helpdesk. I'm not sure 
about a list, but they do have a way for people to submit problems for answers 
and I think there is a block for discussions.
Gigi

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On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:55 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

> When doing some searches for answers to tech Mac questions, I've stumbled 
> upon the Mac Access list. I'm not sure if it's still active, or if it'd meet 
> your needs, but it's something to google to get more information on.
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Mike M  wrote:
> 
>> I wish I knew of some as well.
>>I created a new one just the other day that includes more than just the 
>> Mac and I am hoping to grow into a beast like this one but we shall see. 
>>I spent some time in Google Groups trying to find some good ones but I 
>> hate their new layout. Trying to go anything is rather difficult.
>> 
>> Mike 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all, can anybody recommend another good Mac users group? I have some 
>>> unresolved questions that I need help with. They were about displaying 
>>> fonts on screen network printing and some others. Obviously nobody could 
>>> help on this list at the time. Please don't think I am ungrateful
>>> for the support you have given me since moving to the Mac. I don't expect 
>>> this list to know everything. When I was using a PC I belonged to some 
>>> sited windows lists as well as VIP ones. 
>>> So if somebody can point me to a good sited list I would be very grateful.
>>> Thanks as always.,
>>> Max.
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Re: Other Mainstream Mac Lists

[Kliphton]

There is another one called
mac4theblind
notice it is the number 4, not the word for.  Great list full of knowledeible 
people

think it's at freelists.org.  google should help you here

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On Nov 7, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Mike M  wrote:

I wish I knew of some as well.
   I created a new one just the other day that includes more than just the Mac 
and I am hoping to grow into a beast like this one but we shall see. 
   I spent some time in Google Groups trying to find some good ones but I hate 
their new layout. Trying to go anything is rather difficult.

Mike 
On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hello all, can anybody recommend another good Mac users group? I have some 
> unresolved questions that I need help with. They were about displaying fonts 
> on screen network printing and some others. Obviously nobody could help on 
> this list at the time. Please don't think I am ungrateful
> for the support you have given me since moving to the Mac. I don't expect 
> this list to know everything. When I was using a PC I belonged to some sited 
> windows lists as well as VIP ones. 
> So if somebody can point me to a good sited list I would be very grateful.
> Thanks as always.,
> Max.
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Re: Midi controllers with Djay 4

[David Eagle]

Hi, would anyone be kind enough to have a Skype conversation with me
about using DJay on IPhone and Mac with controllers? My Skype ID is
deagle912. Let me know a good time for you and we'll arrange
something.

Thanks

On 19/01/2012, Emrah  wrote:
> Thanks a bunch for this, and congrats for the set up! Sounds like you have
> quite a bit of experience in there.
> If you have any mix you would be willing to share, I'd be more than happy to
> listen to it.
>
> Best,
> E
> On Jan 20, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's 4 channels, not turntables. Routing is required for the extra
>> channels to work but you can have any setup you want.
>>
>> Mine is as such:
>>
>> Channel 1  ipad with dj on it
>> Channel 2 turntable 1 on dj for mac
>> Channel 3 turntable 2 on dj for mac
>> Channel 4 BC8 mkII analog synth patched in biscuit 8-bit crusher effects
>> module
>>
>>
>> This effectively gives me 4 turntables as the ipad is hooked to the numark
>> idj live, itself very cheap 90USD but works great, better than vci 100
>> series.
>>
>> And since dj has cloud integration, i know what track goes where, and the
>> ipad turntables are mainly used for fillers and hooks
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Yuma
>>
>> On 20/01/2012, at 11:34 AM, Emrah wrote:
>>
>>> Hey there,
>>>
>>> I was the one with the Mixtrack pro. I personally have everything I need
>>> on the controller, but since I do not use the Vestax you have, I cannot
>>> tell whether I have more option on the Numark or not.
>>>
>>> Yuma, are all 4 channels recognized and usable on DJay 4? And are you
>>> referring to 4 turntables, or 4 channels?
>>> What can you use the channels for?
>>>
>>> The Numark Mixtrack Pro has 4 audio outputs and a stereo out for
>>> monitoring, but nothing super fancy.
>>> I am planning to get the Pioneer DDJ S1 soon.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> E
>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>>
 I have the NS6 which has 4 channels for extra devices, lots of knobs
 buttons rotaries and tape sliders. Very very nice hardware. All triggers
 accessible via dj 4



 On 20/01/2012, at 9:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi,
> A while back, someone on this list mentioned that they had DJay 4 and i
> think a Numark Mixtrack pro. I just wondered how that controler is
> accessibility wise, are there good knobs and buttons on it? Also how
> big is it? By that i mean that i have a Vestax Spin Dj control and i
> find that there are way more options in the DJay app than can fit on
> the knobs and sliders of the spin so i wonder if there are more sliders
> and knobs on the Numark one?
> Thanks for any answer.
> /Krister
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[Wayne Coles]

hello list can somebody please help me i have a epsom 510w all in one device 
and when i plugged the cable in it downloaded the drivers but i want to use it 
wirelessly so is this possible and if yes how do i do it thanks in advance 
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Matt Dierckens]

However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, it 
gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I don't get 
these messages anymore.
Thanks.
Matt
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On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:

> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
> mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must be 
> when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was just 
> their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some other 
> examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain apps 
> like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. Another 
> example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If 
> you configure the Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time 
> or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use 
> the voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause that 
> problem with the demo.
> 
> I hope this explanation makes sense.
> 
>  On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
>> can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and said 
>> they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and told 
>> them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It appears 
>>> that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 app. See 
>>> below.
>>> Dear Shawn,
>>> 
>>> We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
>>> when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For example 
>>> Voice Over and another application. 
>>> 
>>> We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. 
>>> I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask 
>>> you to test the voices with one voice application only.
>>> 
>>> Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
>>> voices.
>>> 
>>> Wit kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Martijn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my white Mac Book
>>> 
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Re: Other Mainstream Mac Lists

[Mary Scott]

In the interest of staying on topic on this list, does anyone know of a list 
that deals with more general issues of blind people such as tips for daily 
living or products that are useful for guide dog users?  If there isn't one, 
maybe we need to create one.  Mel  
On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hello all, can anybody recommend another good Mac users group? I have some 
> unresolved questions that I need help with. They were about displaying fonts 
> on screen network printing and some others. Obviously nobody could help on 
> this list at the time. Please don't think I am ungrateful
> for the support you have given me since moving to the Mac. I don't expect 
> this list to know everything. When I was using a PC I belonged to some sited 
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> So if somebody can point me to a good sited list I would be very grateful.
> Thanks as always.,
> Max.
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Re: anyone tried Apple Hardware Test?

[Alex Hall]

Well, I got a sighted person and tried it. With new macs, the test has to be 
gotten online, but my network did not appear in the list so I was unable to try 
it. However, vo did not come on even for the network selection, so I hold out 
little hope for the actual test being accessible.
On Nov 7, 2012, at 4:00 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

>To my knowledge, it's not accessible.  It's a very old application.  
> However, if it has been "fixed", then I stand corrected.  As far as I know, 
> though, it can't be used with VO.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> Mac for the Blind
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> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> In doing more digging on the spontaneous restart problem, I discovered an 
>> option that lets you boot into a hardware test program. I expect it to be 
>> accessible, but I am wondering if anyone has ever tried it? It would be my 
>> luck to boot into this mode, run into accessibility problems, and have no 
>> way to exit it except to shut down (and who knows what I might damage by 
>> forcing a shutdown in the middle of a hardware test).
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Cheryl Homiak]

I wasn't running any of those. Plus it would be ridiculous to bother with a 
demo if you have to be that careful. Their demos in the past haven't done this 
and their demos in the past didn't require an Internet connection. Also, they 
say that this doesn't happen with the voices once they are purchased. If I 
understood correctly, the demos used to be exactlyu the same as the regular 
functioning of the voices except for the fact that they quit after thirty days; 
I don't understand why they should be now working any differently than if you 
had purchased the voice. The purpose in a thirty-day demo should be to make 
sure the voice really works with your system.


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On Nov 8, 2012, at 3:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:

> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
> mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must be 
> when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was just 
> their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some other 
> examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain apps 
> like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. Another 
> example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If 
> you configure the Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time 
> or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use 
> the voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause that 
> problem with the demo.
> 
> I hope this explanation makes sense.
> 
>  On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
>> can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and said 
>> they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and told 
>> them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It appears 
>>> that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 app. See 
>>> below.
>>> Dear Shawn,
>>> 
>>> We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
>>> when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For example 
>>> Voice Over and another application. 
>>> 
>>> We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. 
>>> I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask 
>>> you to test the voices with one voice application only.
>>> 
>>> Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
>>> voices.
>>> 
>>> Wit kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Martijn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my white Mac Book
>>> 
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Cheryl Homiak]

Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having trouble 
after you go to www.assistiveware.com
- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, it 
> gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
> I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I don't 
> get these messages anymore.
> Thanks.
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> 
> On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Cheryl,
>> 
>> I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
>> mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must be 
>> when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was just 
>> their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some other 
>> examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain apps 
>> like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. Another 
>> example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If 
>> you configure the Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time 
>> or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use 
>> the voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause that 
>> problem with the demo.
>> 
>> I hope this explanation makes sense.
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
>>> can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and 
>>> said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and 
>>> told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It appears 
 that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 app. See 
 below.
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
 when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For 
 example Voice Over and another application. 
 
 We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. 
 I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask 
 you to test the voices with one voice application only.
 
 Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
 voices.
 
 Wit kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 
 Shawn
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Re: iPad App Store losing sales, alienating

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I totally agree.

Chris.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Cheree Heppe" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: iPad App Store losing sales, alienating


Cheree Heppe here:

This design in which a tiny area is to be flicked at to advance the app list 
isn't a realistic access methodology.  The structure of the App Store prior 
to IOS 6 worked fine, as did the IBooks store.  Since the change, My perusal 
and purchase of both apps and IBooks has dropped off sharply.  This isn't 
because I don't prefer to look around and to purchase, it's because the 
access has become so chancy and difficult.


Whoever is advising the Apple creative teams on blindness disability may 
deserve a second hard look.  This is because when Apple opened its 
accessibility window for blind users, it completely derailed some entrenched 
and very expensive blindness products and made the major Windows screen 
readers look clumsy and badly designed.


You don't suppose those blindness bastions are going to take that lying 
down?  What if bad advice in the name of experienced accesibility could be 
given to Apple to weaken or limit the scope and reach of Apple's new access? 
What if the voices and speech could be skewed toward the silly season 
variety, as in that fake Ease Indin accent that allows the perfectly good 
Australian voice to mispronounce standard words.  Some of us blind users 
depend on the pronounciation to know how a word is spelled.  Some 
mispronounced words when spoken in that fake Ease Indian accent, sound 
exactly like other real words.


So, with a few suggestions that get accepted,  and with a few more that 
well, really guys, the totally blind can't be expected to really handle 
much, can they, the whole beautifully positive Apple access platform tilts 
toward the glitchy, falty Windows variety.


It is a good idea to call and have a trouble ticket created.  How did that 
old patriotic saying go?  Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.


So, let's not give up our newly won freedom with these Apple devices and 
interfaces.


By the way, I'm totally blind and totally able to use the Apple devices, as 
long as the accessibility playing field isn't stacked against me.



Regards,
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPad Mini

On 07/11/2012, at 1:51, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:


Hey Cheree, I don't know how to do this with the IPad,but with the IPhone 
at least, I definitely! can show you.  It's a little weird, but it is 
extremely doable.  I do it all the time!


OK, so, on your 4S, at least, what you need to do, is after you bring the 
page up for your first result, tap near the very bottom center of the 
screen, if it helps, I don't know how much, if any, vision that you have, 
but if you have enough to see the little thumbnail picture of the artwork 
for the app, what you need is immediately just directly below that.  it's 
basically gonna be right between that artwork, and your home key.  If you 
can't see it, it is a flickable item, so don't worry.  If push comes to 
shove, you definitely! can flick to it.  You will see that there is an 
adjuster.  It'll say something like 1 of 45, or 1 of 200, or whatever. 
Now, what you want to do is on that adjuster, just like you would do 
normally, just one finger flick up to get to the next result, and one 
finger flick down to get to the previous one.  Be sure you're focused on 
that adjuster though before you virtically flick.  Otherwise, you're gonna 
be moving the currently set rotor setting like words, headings, 
characters, etc.


Again, no dice for the IPad.  I will say that Chris from Apple did call me 
back yesterday, around 6, rigbht before he left for the day, and he told 
me that he, his boss, and about 5 or 6 others had a staff meeting which he 
himself requested, to discuss the stores IPad accessibility moving 
forward, as he too agreed since I O S 6.anything came out, it's somewhat 
climbed down hill in Voiceover support.  In this meeting, he told me one 
of the key outline discussions did revolve around my exact problem.  He 
definitely did send it up to engineering.  I'd encourage all of you guys 
to also write, and have them create you a case number like Chris did for 
me, this way it's not just an oh, we'll send it up.  You need to insist 
that they give you a case number.  I think the more people who do this, 
the better.  They are? now definitely, if nothing else, at least from me, 
aware the issue's there, but they're no

Re: Jaws 14 on VMWare.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Gosh, am I really that far out of the Windows world of things that I didn't 
know about jaws 14?  Last I knew, V 13 was the most recent version.


Chris. 


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Re: iPad App Store losing sales, alienating

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

What good does it do to challenge her, Ray?  I don't think she would have 
suggested it, had she not done it.  People, the people like her and I were not 
born yesterday.  We're not stupid.  Of corse we put it not one, not two, not 50 
tickets that seem to for the most part go unresolved.  They fix things when 
they're good and ready to fix 'em.  NOt when customers seem to need them fixed. 
 It's sad, but it's the truth.  Like it or not.  Willing to admit it or not.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: iPad App Store losing sales, alienating


  Okay,  so, did you yourself create such a trouble ticket?  

  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!


  Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!


  Skype name:
  barefootedray


  On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:


Cheree Heppe here:

This design in which a tiny area is to be flicked at to advance the app 
list isn't a realistic access methodology.  The structure of the App Store 
prior to IOS 6 worked fine, as did the IBooks store.  Since the change, My 
perusal and purchase of both apps and IBooks has dropped off sharply.  This 
isn't because I don't prefer to look around and to purchase, it's because the 
access has become so chancy and difficult.

Whoever is advising the Apple creative teams on blindness disability may 
deserve a second hard look.  This is because when Apple opened its 
accessibility window for blind users, it completely derailed some entrenched 
and very expensive blindness products and made the major Windows screen readers 
look clumsy and badly designed.

You don't suppose those blindness bastions are going to take that lying 
down?  What if bad advice in the name of experienced accesibility could be 
given to Apple to weaken or limit the scope and reach of Apple's new access?  
What if the voices and speech could be skewed toward the silly season variety, 
as in that fake Ease Indin accent that allows the perfectly good Australian 
voice to mispronounce standard words.  Some of us blind users depend on the 
pronounciation to know how a word is spelled.  Some mispronounced words when 
spoken in that fake Ease Indian accent, sound exactly like other real words.

So, with a few suggestions that get accepted,  and with a few more that 
well, really guys, the totally blind can't be expected to really handle much, 
can they, the whole beautifully positive Apple access platform tilts toward the 
glitchy, falty Windows variety.

It is a good idea to call and have a trouble ticket created.  How did that 
old patriotic saying go?  Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.

So, let's not give up our newly won freedom with these Apple devices and 
interfaces.

By the way, I'm totally blind and totally able to use the Apple devices, as 
long as the accessibility playing field isn't stacked against me.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPad Mini

On 07/11/2012, at 1:51, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:


  Hey Cheree, I don't know how to do this with the IPad,but with the IPhone 
at least, I definitely! can show you.  It's a little weird, but it is extremely 
doable.  I do it all the time!

  OK, so, on your 4S, at least, what you need to do, is after you bring the 
page up for your first result, tap near the very bottom center of the screen, 
if it helps, I don't know how much, if any, vision that you have, but if you 
have enough to see the little thumbnail picture of the artwork for the app, 
what you need is immediately just directly below that.  it's basically gonna be 
right between that artwork, and your home key.  If you can't see it, it is a 
flickable item, so don't worry.  If push comes to shove, you definitely! can 
flick to it.  You will see that there is an adjuster.  It'll say something like 
1 of 45, or 1 of 200, or whatever.  Now, what you want to do is on that 
adjuster, just like you would do normally, just one finger flick up to get to 
the next result, and one finger flick down to get to the previous one.  Be sure 
you're focused on that adjuster though before you virtically flick.  Otherwise, 
you're gonna be moving the currently set rotor setting like words, headings, 
characters, etc.

  Again, no dice for the IPad.  I will say that Chris from Apple did call 
me back yesterday, around 6, rigbht before he left for the day, and h

Re: iPad App Store losing sales, alienating

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

On the side of that adjuster on the IPhone, I agree, it's totally easy, so 
for that I must say, I"m siding with you, not Cheree, however, on all her 
other points, I totally have to say I agree with her.


Chris.


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- Original Message - 
From: "James Mannion" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: iPad App Store losing sales, alienating



I'm not sure what is being complained abouthere. The "tiny" area on
the screen to flick up or down is no problem to find if one is willing
t think for one minute or at least take some advice if not of how to
get to it. Tough the bottom left icon, the bottom left tab on the
screen and do one flick left. There, you are on it. Honestly this
complaint does not sound the least bit constructive. Apple provided
accessibility to flick through the apps, and yes, it was a solution
that appears to have been an after thought, but at least they did
provide it and provided it quickly. It is absolutely perfectly usable
and is no harder to use, just different, than before. It is absolutely
frustrating when people get on a kick that just because it is
different that it is all wrong.

On 11/7/12, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

Okay,  so, did you yourself create such a trouble ticket?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:


Cheree Heppe here:

This design in which a tiny area is to be flicked at to advance the app
list isn't a realistic access methodology.  The structure of the App 
Store
prior to IOS 6 worked fine, as did the IBooks store.  Since the change, 
My

perusal and purchase of both apps and IBooks has dropped off sharply.
This isn't because I don't prefer to look around and to purchase, it's
because the access has become so chancy and difficult.

Whoever is advising the Apple creative teams on blindness disability may
deserve a second hard look.  This is because when Apple opened its
accessibility window for blind users, it completely derailed some
entrenched and very expensive blindness products and made the major
Windows screen readers look clumsy and badly designed.

You don't suppose those blindness bastions are going to take that lying
down?  What if bad advice in the name of experienced accesibility could 
be

given to Apple to weaken or limit the scope and reach of Apple's new
access?  What if the voices and speech could be skewed toward the silly
season variety, as in that fake Ease Indin accent that allows the
perfectly good Australian voice to mispronounce standard words.  Some of
us blind users depend on the pronounciation to know how a word is 
spelled.

 Some mispronounced words when spoken in that fake Ease Indian accent,
sound exactly like other real words.

So, with a few suggestions that get accepted,  and with a few more that
well, really guys, the totally blind can't be expected to really handle
much, can they, the whole beautifully positive Apple access platform 
tilts

toward the glitchy, falty Windows variety.

It is a good idea to call and have a trouble ticket created.  How did 
that

old patriotic saying go?  Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.

So, let's not give up our newly won freedom with these Apple devices and
interfaces.

By the way, I'm totally blind and totally able to use the Apple devices,
as long as the accessibility playing field isn't stacked against me.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPad Mini

On 07/11/2012, at 1:51, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 


wrote:

Hey Cheree, I don't know how to do this with the IPad,but with the 
IPhone

at least, I definitely! can show you.  It's a little weird, but it is
extremely doable.  I do it all the time!

OK, so, on your 4S, at least, what you need to do, is after you bring 
the

page up for your first result, tap near the very bottom center of the
screen, if it helps, I don't know how much, if any, vision that you 
have,
but if you have enough to see the little thumbnail picture of the 
artwork
for the app, what you need is immediately just directly below that. 
it's
basically gonna be right between that artwork, and your home key.  If 
you

can't see it, it is a flickable item, so don't worry.  If push comes to
shove, you definitely! can flick to it.  You will see that there is an
adjuster.  It'll say something like 1 of 45, or 1 of 200, or whatever.
Now, what you want to do is on that adjuster, just like you would do
normally, just one finger fli

Re: Other Mainstream Mac Lists

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

There are tons of those.

Google is your friend.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Scott" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Other Mainstream Mac Lists


In the interest of staying on topic on this list, does anyone know of a list 
that deals with more general issues of blind people such as tips for daily 
living or products that are useful for guide dog users?  If there isn't one, 
maybe we need to create one.  Mel

On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

Hello all, can anybody recommend another good Mac users group? I have some 
unresolved questions that I need help with. They were about displaying 
fonts on screen network printing and some others. Obviously nobody could 
help on this list at the time. Please don't think I am ungrateful
for the support you have given me since moving to the Mac. I don't expect 
this list to know everything. When I was using a PC I belonged to some 
sited windows lists as well as VIP ones.

So if somebody can point me to a good sited list I would be very grateful.
Thanks as always.,
Max.

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musical typing i Garageband?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I've turned on musical typing in Garageband, but nothing happens when I press 
keys, even with vo off. I have a dialog with octave up/down buttons and an 
empty scroll area, but that's it. I created a new project and added a track to 
it, though as I selected piano in the first place I now have two piano tracks. 
What am i missing to get this working right? Thanks.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: local mail boxes not showing up?

[matthew Dyer]

   Hi,

Thees folders were created in the very tpop pof the  on my mac section.  After 
I interacted with the mail boxes table they showed up.  Thanks.


On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Amber Wallenstein wrote:

> Are the local mailboxes expanded in the table? I had this happen with my 
> gmail folders.  As soon as I expanded the gmail row in  the table, they all 
> appeared.
> Amber
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Re: Jaws 14 on VMWare.

[Chris Blouch]

Same here. I ran the Jaws installer a second time and did the repair 
option but no such luck. I guess the positive bit is that I had the same 
problem on a real Windows 7 32-bit box so the virtual machine is 
emulating that bug correctly :) I had Jaws 13 installed which I 
uninstalled on VMWare before installing 14. On the real desktop I even 
tried downloading the videointercept driver installer and running that 
as administrator, but that didn't work either. From what I can find in 
the forums others are also having issues with Jaws 14 and VMWare but I 
don't think it's just VMWare that's having issues.


CB

On 11/7/12 8:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello All.

I'm sorry for asking this on list but I'm not sure who else to ask.

I installed jaws 14 on my VMWare machine and it said that the mirror display 
driver had not been installed properly and that I either restart the computer 
or repair the instalation of jaws.

I did restart the virtual machine a couple of times but the message was still 
there.  In the end I removed it as I couldn't find the jaws repair instalation. 
Does anyone know if it has gone or else to look please?

Kawal.



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Re: Jaws 14 on VMWare.

[Mauricio Almeida]

well. i'm guessing it wasn't only me who had the problem, and gladly it wasn't 
the vm either:).
switching to jaws 13 again it is then.

thanks all

mauricio
On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Same here. I ran the Jaws installer a second time and did the repair option 
> but no such luck. I guess the positive bit is that I had the same problem on 
> a real Windows 7 32-bit box so the virtual machine is emulating that bug 
> correctly :) I had Jaws 13 installed which I uninstalled on VMWare before 
> installing 14. On the real desktop I even tried downloading the 
> videointercept driver installer and running that as administrator, but that 
> didn't work either. From what I can find in the forums others are also having 
> issues with Jaws 14 and VMWare but I don't think it's just VMWare that's 
> having issues.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 11/7/12 8:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I'm sorry for asking this on list but I'm not sure who else to ask.
>> 
>> I installed jaws 14 on my VMWare machine and it said that the mirror display 
>> driver had not been installed properly and that I either restart the 
>> computer or repair the instalation of jaws.
>> 
>> I did restart the virtual machine a couple of times but the message was 
>> still there.  In the end I removed it as I couldn't find the jaws repair 
>> instalation. Does anyone know if it has gone or else to look please?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[Daniel C]

Good day list,
I do podcasting, and normally use Windows to edit my podcasts. Since, however, 
my Windows machine is dying, I'm thinking of switching my production work over 
to my Mac.
Since this is my first Mac, I'm not sure what software I should use for audio 
editing. My gf told me about Amadeus, but I don't know how good it is or 
anything as no demo is available to try it.
Would Amadeus be something that'll work with voiceover? And if so how 
accessible is it?

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Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[Mike M]

Hello,
I use it for all of the editing I do for my podcast at htb2.com.
It works very well and is really simple to use.
garage Band wil also work but Amadeus Pro is much easier.
If you want I can send you a little recording of how it works.

Mike 
On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel C  wrote:

> Good day list,
> I do podcasting, and normally use Windows to edit my podcasts. Since, 
> however, my Windows machine is dying, I'm thinking of switching my production 
> work over to my Mac.
> Since this is my first Mac, I'm not sure what software I should use for audio 
> editing. My gf told me about Amadeus, but I don't know how good it is or 
> anything as no demo is available to try it.
> Would Amadeus be something that'll work with voiceover? And if so how 
> accessible is it?
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Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[Chris]

Get Audio Hijack Pro so you can capture your voice and or other sounds 
produced by the system, including VoiceOver. Also get Fission which 
allows you to edit your recordings made by Audio Hijack Pro.

www.rogueamoeba.com
Demos for these products are available. With Audio Hijack Pro noise is 
added to all hijackings longer than 10 minutes. With Fission saving a 
file will produce degraded audio with a series of fades.

As for Amadeus a demo is available but cannot remember the website off hand.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 08/11/2012 19:28, Daniel C wrote:

Good day list,
I do podcasting, and normally use Windows to edit my podcasts. Since, however, 
my Windows machine is dying, I'm thinking of switching my production work over 
to my Mac.
Since this is my first Mac, I'm not sure what software I should use for audio 
editing. My gf told me about Amadeus, but I don't know how good it is or 
anything as no demo is available to try it.
Would Amadeus be something that'll work with voiceover? And if so how 
accessible is it?



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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Matt Dierckens]

Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having trouble 
> after you go to www.assistiveware.com
> - 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, it 
>> gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
>> I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I don't 
>> get these messages anymore.
>> Thanks.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my mac
>> Twitter: matt692
>> 
>> On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Cheryl,
>>> 
>>> I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
>>> mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must 
>>> be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was just 
>>> their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some other 
>>> examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain apps 
>>> like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. Another 
>>> example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If 
>>> you configure the Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time 
>>> or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to 
>>> use the voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause 
>>> that problem with the demo.
>>> 
>>> I hope this explanation makes sense.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
 can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and 
 said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and 
 told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
 wrote:
 
> Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It appears 
> that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 app. See 
> below.
> Dear Shawn,
> 
> We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
> when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For 
> example Voice Over and another application. 
> 
> We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. 
> I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask 
> you to test the voices with one voice application only.
> 
> Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
> voices.
> 
> Wit kind regards,
> 
> Martijn
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Cheryl Homiak]

Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having exactly?

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On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> 
> On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having trouble 
>> after you go to www.assistiveware.com
>> - 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>>> However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, 
>>> it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
>>> I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I don't 
>>> get these messages anymore.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my mac
>>> Twitter: matt692
>>> 
>>> On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Cheryl,
 
 I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
 mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must 
 be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was 
 just their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some 
 other examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up certain 
 apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak events. 
 Another example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS Games client. 
 Also, If you configure the Mac in system preferences to automatically 
 speak the time or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else 
 that tries to use the voice on it's own while voiceover is running will 
 apparently cause that problem with the demo.
 
 I hope this explanation makes sense.
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
 
> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. You 
> can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back and 
> said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back and 
> told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It 
>> appears that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 
>> app. See below.
>> Dear Shawn,
>> 
>> We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
>> when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For 
>> example Voice Over and another application. 
>> 
>> We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a solution. 
>> I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can offer is to ask 
>> you to test the voices with one voice application only.
>> 
>> Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
>> voices.
>> 
>> Wit kind regards,
>> 
>> Martijn
>> 
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my white Mac Book
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Matt Dierckens]

Having trouelbe purchasing credits and activating.
Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

On 2012-11-08, at 1:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having 
> exactly?
> 
> -- 
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> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my mac
>> Twitter: matt692
>> 
>> On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having 
>>> trouble after you go to www.assistiveware.com
>>> - 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>> 
 However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, 
 it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
 I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I 
 don't get these messages anymore.
 Thanks.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:
 
> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what they 
> mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The problem must 
> be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. Visiovoice was 
> just their example of the kind of app they were warning against. Some 
> other examples would be the speech output for Growl, or setting up 
> certain apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to automatically speak 
> events. Another example is apps that are self-voicing such as the RS 
> Games client. Also, If you configure the Mac in system preferences to 
> automatically speak the time or to speak alerts after a delay. Basically, 
> anything else that tries to use the voice on it's own while voiceover is 
> running will apparently cause that problem with the demo.
> 
> I hope this explanation makes sense.
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. 
>> You can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back 
>> and said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed back 
>> and told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the demo.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It 
>>> appears that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 
>>> app. See below.
>>> Dear Shawn,
>>> 
>>> We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to occur 
>>> when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. For 
>>> example Voice Over and another application. 
>>> 
>>> We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a 
>>> solution. I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can 
>>> offer is to ask you to test the voices with one voice application only.
>>> 
>>> Please note that the problem should not occur for activated (purchased) 
>>> voices.
>>> 
>>> Wit kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Martijn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my white Mac Book
>>> 
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Re: without passing through router?

[Chris Blouch]

I've had pretty good luck with time machine over wifi. I have an old Mac 
G4 running in the basement with a 500GB drive for time machine backups 
wired to my wifi router. I then have sharing turned on and mounted that 
drive on a laptop and told time machine to use it. It seems to back up a 
lot of the time since I'm back on 802.11G since my Airport died. It was 
much more reasonable with 802.11N. In other words, if you're patient you 
might be fine just doing time machine backups over wifi and will have no 
need of a frankencable setup.


CB

On 11/7/12 12:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

You are correct in most accounts.  Time Machine will continue from 
where it left off if all things are equal, meaning that you're using 
the same Backup location and configuration as well as connection 
method.  Yes it should be much quicker on future backups.


With respect to the Internet connection being lost when the ethernet 
cable is connected.  Try going to the System Prefs, in the Network 
pane.  In the Actions pop-up menu, choose "Set Service Order" and then 
drag the WIFI above the Ethernet service.  This should allow the WIFI 
to maintain its Internet connection but still allow connectivity 
between computers with the ethernet cable.  Note that "should" is my 
favourite word in computer-land so I'm not promising that it will work 
perfectly.  I do, in my world, use multiple network services but these 
are usually in a Server environment so your machine may behave 
differently.


Good luck.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-06, at 12:50 PM, Ioana Gandrabur > wrote:



Thanks for your detailed response.
Like you said, it opens up more questiones than it answers.

I have a sighted husband that could help with non VO friendly 
solutions. Could you mind telling me what those might be?


Also, I am just thinking letting timemachine do its thing although it 
takes forever. I am thinking that for subsequent bakcups it would be 
faster since there is less to update. Do any of you know if 
timemachine can continue backup where it left off if the backup was 
interrupted? IN this case am I risking corrupted data?


hanks very much!


Ioana
Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com 
 on iTunes and most online stores.


On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Tim Kilburn > wrote:



Hi,

Migration Assistant is a different kettle of fish.  Although, the 
basic answer is yes, sort of.  Some complications will arise though 
if you are planning to have the units tethered more or less 
permanently.  Normally, the ethernet connection is a higher priority 
than the wireless one thus once the connection is made, you will 
lose your IP address and most likely lose your Internet connection. 
 There are workarounds for this sort of thing but they are not 
typically VO friendly.


The connection speed should be quicker than WIFI and depending on 
your router, could be slightly quicker then going through it as well.


The problem I see with your design though is that, unless your other 
Mac is set up as a server, using it for Time Machine backups is not 
as easy as it appears.  My suggestions for this would be to either 
have some sort of network access storage either through your 
existing router (if it supports it), to use a Time Capsule or 
Airport Extreme with external HD, or convert your other Mac to a 
MacOS Server.  Financially, if your router supports NAS, that's the 
least expensive route, purchasing the MacOS Server is only $20 and 
the most expensive would be the Airport Extreme or Time Capsule 
route.  Just because life is never easy, the less expensive routes 
are not necessarily the easiest methods to configure.


Sorry, probably just gave you more questions than answers.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-05, at 1:40 PM, Ioana Gandrabur > wrote:



Hi,

Just wondering if it is possible to connect 2 macs on a wired 
network directly with a cable. THe router is very far away from 
both to be close to the dsl plug on the wall. I thought that just 
connecting with a cable should do it since I did this with pc for 
migration assistent.
If it is indeed possible, how do I make sure the connection works 
and is it slower than passing through a router?


Thanks for your help.

Best,

Ioana

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Re: Anyone have Terminal tricks and resources?

[Esther]

Hi Mike,

As Chris and Brandon mentioned, there's a lot of answers for specific topics 
about using the terminal.  There isn't a lot posted about the best ways to set 
up VoiceOver for using Terminal.  The best and most extensive posts I've seen 
on that topic have come from Travis Siegel on the mac-access list.  Here's the 
link to an earlier mail archive post I made here that contains a link to one of 
Travis' mac-access list posts on "Hints on using terminal".  (This dates from 
before the mac-access list moved over to using the Mail Archive as a secondary 
archive that is easily searchable).
• Re: terminal and voice over
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg45511.html
You're welcome to join that list, too.  Here's the info page:
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/

I think this is the current web page with more information about their current 
mailing lists and list policies.  Note that discussion of Windows related 
topics have been split off to a separate Windows-access list. 
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/Mailing-Lists.html

Cheryl's suggestion of the "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal" 
eBook is also a good one.  Here's the link to their web page description:
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line

There is also another recent related eBook on this subject from O'Reilly:
• Learning Unix for OS X Mountain Lion by Dave Taylor (Released: September 2012)
This has the subtitle: "Using Unix and Linux Tools at the Command Line" and the 
URL for the web page is:
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025870.do
It is also available for purchase from iBooks for $9.99:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/learning-unix-for-os-x-mountain/id563659679?mt=11

I'm not sure whether you would be able to also read this on your computer if 
you purchased through iBooks, but you might, since O'Reilly does not use any 
DRM with their books.They also make all their books available to Bookshare, 
and international Bookshare members can also access all their books.   If you 
create an account and purchase eBooks directly from the O'Reilly web site, 
you'll be able to download multiple versions (e.g., ePub, mobi, and PDF for 
this volume), and any errata or minor revisions are always made available 
through the links on your account.  The ePub is readable on your computer as 
well as on any iOS device.  For some other, older books they may offer DAISY 
versions.

These suggestions assume no previous background with Unix or Linux. For Mac 
users coming from a Linux or Unix background, there are the older O'Reilly 
books like "Mac OS X for Unix Geeks (Leopard), 4th Edition" by Ernest E. 
Rothman, Brian Jepson, and Rich Rosen:
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596520632.do

There's a really old O'Reilly web page dating in 2002 on the "Top Ten Mac OS X 
Tips for Unix Geeks":
http://macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/2792

It's still good for a quick summary info, but the default shell has long since 
changed from tcsh to bash, and the way startup is handled is completely 
different.

One quick tip for Terminal users is that you can use command-c from the Finder 
GUI to copy the location of a file or folder, and paste it into a command-line 
argument in your Terminal shell.  The full path to that file is always copied 
that way, so it doesn't matter whether you are in the same directory in 
Terminal as the file you want to operate on or not.  There's also a free 
"Go2Shell" application from the Mac App Store that will let you launch a 
Terminal session that opens in the folder you're using in Finder.  Here's the 
URL at the Mac App Store:
http://itunes.apple.com/app/go2shell/id445770608?mt=12

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


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>> 
>>> Calling all geeks!
>>> I have been digging around and trying to heather resources to teach 
>>> myself how to use Terminal.
>>> I have learned some basics but wanted to put out some feelers and see 
>>> if you guys had some resources that you could recommend.
>>> I appreciate any tips and I am off to search archives
>>> 
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Re: Jaws 14 on VMWare.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Wow, you'd think who ever developed jaws 14 would have picked this one up!  
Even Apple aren't that bad hey??!  Good that I use Voice Over exclusively at 
home then.  The others have lost the plot if they can't fix this bug.

Kawal.
On 8 Nov 2012, at 18:40, Mauricio Almeida  wrote:

> well. i'm guessing it wasn't only me who had the problem, and gladly it 
> wasn't the vm either:).
> switching to jaws 13 again it is then.
> 
> thanks all
> 
> mauricio
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Same here. I ran the Jaws installer a second time and did the repair option 
>> but no such luck. I guess the positive bit is that I had the same problem on 
>> a real Windows 7 32-bit box so the virtual machine is emulating that bug 
>> correctly :) I had Jaws 13 installed which I uninstalled on VMWare before 
>> installing 14. On the real desktop I even tried downloading the 
>> videointercept driver installer and running that as administrator, but that 
>> didn't work either. From what I can find in the forums others are also 
>> having issues with Jaws 14 and VMWare but I don't think it's just VMWare 
>> that's having issues.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 11/7/12 8:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry for asking this on list but I'm not sure who else to ask.
>>> 
>>> I installed jaws 14 on my VMWare machine and it said that the mirror 
>>> display driver had not been installed properly and that I either restart 
>>> the computer or repair the instalation of jaws.
>>> 
>>> I did restart the virtual machine a couple of times but the message was 
>>> still there.  In the end I removed it as I couldn't find the jaws repair 
>>> instalation. Does anyone know if it has gone or else to look please?
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
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Re: Jaws 14 on VMWare.

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Did they change the video manager again?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Wow, you'd think who ever developed jaws 14 would have picked this one up!  
> Even Apple aren't that bad hey??!  Good that I use Voice Over exclusively at 
> home then.  The others have lost the plot if they can't fix this bug.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 8 Nov 2012, at 18:40, Mauricio Almeida  wrote:
> 
>> well. i'm guessing it wasn't only me who had the problem, and gladly it 
>> wasn't the vm either:).
>> switching to jaws 13 again it is then.
>> 
>> thanks all
>> 
>> mauricio
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> Same here. I ran the Jaws installer a second time and did the repair option 
>>> but no such luck. I guess the positive bit is that I had the same problem 
>>> on a real Windows 7 32-bit box so the virtual machine is emulating that bug 
>>> correctly :) I had Jaws 13 installed which I uninstalled on VMWare before 
>>> installing 14. On the real desktop I even tried downloading the 
>>> videointercept driver installer and running that as administrator, but that 
>>> didn't work either. From what I can find in the forums others are also 
>>> having issues with Jaws 14 and VMWare but I don't think it's just VMWare 
>>> that's having issues.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 11/7/12 8:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello All.
 
 I'm sorry for asking this on list but I'm not sure who else to ask.
 
 I installed jaws 14 on my VMWare machine and it said that the mirror 
 display driver had not been installed properly and that I either restart 
 the computer or repair the instalation of jaws.
 
 I did restart the virtual machine a couple of times but the message was 
 still there.  In the end I removed it as I couldn't find the jaws repair 
 instalation. Does anyone know if it has gone or else to look please?
 
 Kawal.
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Re: Jaws 14 on VMWare.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have no clue.  In fact I don't know anything about jaws 14 and normally I 
would have known a little bit.  I don't know what's happened, and I could not 
find the repair installation so they must have changed a lot on the way it is.  
I've just been concentrating on Voice Over although I use jaws every day at 
work. 
On 8 Nov 2012, at 21:44, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:

> Did they change the video manager again?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Wow, you'd think who ever developed jaws 14 would have picked this one up!  
>> Even Apple aren't that bad hey??!  Good that I use Voice Over exclusively at 
>> home then.  The others have lost the plot if they can't fix this bug.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 8 Nov 2012, at 18:40, Mauricio Almeida  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> well. i'm guessing it wasn't only me who had the problem, and gladly it 
>>> wasn't the vm either:).
>>> switching to jaws 13 again it is then.
>>> 
>>> thanks all
>>> 
>>> mauricio
>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
 Same here. I ran the Jaws installer a second time and did the repair 
 option but no such luck. I guess the positive bit is that I had the same 
 problem on a real Windows 7 32-bit box so the virtual machine is emulating 
 that bug correctly :) I had Jaws 13 installed which I uninstalled on 
 VMWare before installing 14. On the real desktop I even tried downloading 
 the videointercept driver installer and running that as administrator, but 
 that didn't work either. From what I can find in the forums others are 
 also having issues with Jaws 14 and VMWare but I don't think it's just 
 VMWare that's having issues.
 
 CB
 
 On 11/7/12 8:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> Hello All.
> 
> I'm sorry for asking this on list but I'm not sure who else to ask.
> 
> I installed jaws 14 on my VMWare machine and it said that the mirror 
> display driver had not been installed properly and that I either restart 
> the computer or repair the instalation of jaws.
> 
> I did restart the virtual machine a couple of times but the message was 
> still there.  In the end I removed it as I couldn't find the jaws repair 
> instalation. Does anyone know if it has gone or else to look please?
> 
> Kawal.
 
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Re: Jaws 14 on VMWare.

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Me neither. Oh well. 
Thanks 


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I have no clue.  In fact I don't know anything about jaws 14 and normally I 
> would have known a little bit.  I don't know what's happened, and I could not 
> find the repair installation so they must have changed a lot on the way it 
> is.  I've just been concentrating on Voice Over although I use jaws every day 
> at work. 
> On 8 Nov 2012, at 21:44, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
> 
>> Did they change the video manager again?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow, you'd think who ever developed jaws 14 would have picked this one up!  
>>> Even Apple aren't that bad hey??!  Good that I use Voice Over exclusively 
>>> at home then.  The others have lost the plot if they can't fix this bug.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 8 Nov 2012, at 18:40, Mauricio Almeida  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 well. i'm guessing it wasn't only me who had the problem, and gladly it 
 wasn't the vm either:).
 switching to jaws 13 again it is then.
 
 thanks all
 
 mauricio
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
 
> Same here. I ran the Jaws installer a second time and did the repair 
> option but no such luck. I guess the positive bit is that I had the same 
> problem on a real Windows 7 32-bit box so the virtual machine is 
> emulating that bug correctly :) I had Jaws 13 installed which I 
> uninstalled on VMWare before installing 14. On the real desktop I even 
> tried downloading the videointercept driver installer and running that as 
> administrator, but that didn't work either. From what I can find in the 
> forums others are also having issues with Jaws 14 and VMWare but I don't 
> think it's just VMWare that's having issues.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 11/7/12 8:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I'm sorry for asking this on list but I'm not sure who else to ask.
>> 
>> I installed jaws 14 on my VMWare machine and it said that the mirror 
>> display driver had not been installed properly and that I either restart 
>> the computer or repair the instalation of jaws.
>> 
>> I did restart the virtual machine a couple of times but the message was 
>> still there.  In the end I removed it as I couldn't find the jaws repair 
>> instalation. Does anyone know if it has gone or else to look please?
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Cheryl Homiak]

Okay, do you already have infovox voices or are these your first ones that you 
want to buy? And do you already have the Infovox Ivox Voice Manager installed?

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On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Having trouelbe purchasing credits and activating.
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> 
> On 2012-11-08, at 1:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having 
>> exactly?
>> 
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>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my mac
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>>> 
>>> On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having 
 trouble after you go to www.assistiveware.com
 - 
 Cheryl
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens  
 wrote:
 
> However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on safari, 
> it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this happens.
> I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I 
> don't get these messages anymore.
> Thanks.
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> 
> On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Cheryl,
>> 
>> I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what 
>> they mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The 
>> problem must be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. 
>> Visiovoice was just their example of the kind of app they were warning 
>> against. Some other examples would be the speech output for Growl, or 
>> setting up certain apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to 
>> automatically speak events. Another example is apps that are 
>> self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If you configure the Mac 
>> in system preferences to automatically speak the time or to speak alerts 
>> after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use the voice on 
>> it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause that problem 
>> with the demo.
>> 
>> I hope this explanation makes sense.
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. 
>>> You can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote back 
>>> and said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I emailed 
>>> back and told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while using the 
>>> demo.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It 
 appears that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 1 
 app. See below.
 Dear Shawn,
 
 We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to 
 occur when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. 
 For example Voice Over and another application. 
 
 We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a 
 solution. I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can 
 offer is to ask you to test the voices with one voice application only.
 
 Please note that the problem should not occur for activated 
 (purchased) voices.
 
 Wit kind regards,
 
 Martijn
 
 
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Re: External Blu Ray DVD/CD CDR or CDRW

[Chris Blouch]

It's been a while but last I checked OSX still didn't have native 
support for BluRay. So while there are lots of drives out there that 
might be 'compatible' there will have to be some 3rd party software to 
read it. You can find out more about this by searching on "bag of hurt" 
and bluray. I think it came down to issue with implementing the DRM 
scheme which travels all the way from the disk up the HDMI to the 
display. If anything in that chain breaks or is missing playback fails. 
Someday I want to get one of these drives as well so I can play with 
this but it's pretty far down on the list. As others have said, when in 
doubt go with the OWC folks as they have a history of finding 
models/flavors of hardware that happen to work right and/or include the 
bit of software to make it so.


CB

On 11/5/12 7:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Marc,

In addition to Esther's informative post, take a look at this link:
http://www.macblurayplayer.com/how-to-play-a-bluray-disc-on-mac.htm

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-05, at 10:35 AM, Esther  wrote:


Hello Marc,

I don't use Blu-ray drives on my Mac, but if I were looking for such a
drive and wanted to ensure compatibility with my Mac, I'd check Other
World Computing, and either buy directly from them, or check what
standard products in this category they offer.  You should not assume
that external burners will automatically be recognized in your Mac
applications in the same manner that native drives are.  OWC has a
history of checking out and supporting these functions on the Mac.  A
Google search of "owc bluray" brought up this link:
http://eshop.macsales.com/search/external+blu+ray

You can probably follow up with direct queries to OWC. And there are
likely list users who use DVD and Bluray devices who can help you more
with specifics.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 5, 6:53 am, Marc Rocheleau  wrote:

So um... no one has any recommendations at all? I don't mean to be a
pest about it but I really need this for my iMac and have no clue
where to start. As mentioned in previous messages, I am looking for an
optical drive with Blu ray and CD read/write capability. I am assuming
any device that can read/write blue ray can do normal DVDs just fine
too?

Any help would still be grately appreciated.

-Marc


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Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[Ray Foret Jr]

Let me tell you right now.  It's mighty hard to go wrong with amadeus Pro.  
Were I you, though, I'd buy it directly from the producer rather than the Apple 
Store.  There's been some, uh, issues with that version.


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On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel C  wrote:

> Good day list,
> I do podcasting, and normally use Windows to edit my podcasts. Since, 
> however, my Windows machine is dying, I'm thinking of switching my production 
> work over to my Mac.
> Since this is my first Mac, I'm not sure what software I should use for audio 
> editing. My gf told me about Amadeus, but I don't know how good it is or 
> anything as no demo is available to try it.
> Would Amadeus be something that'll work with voiceover? And if so how 
> accessible is it?
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Re: External Blu Ray DVD/CD CDR or CDRW

[Chris Bruinenberg]

I think there is one called blue ray player. I saw it on mac update this 
morning.  


Sent from my iPhone

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> It's been a while but last I checked OSX still didn't have native support for 
> BluRay. So while there are lots of drives out there that might be 
> 'compatible' there will have to be some 3rd party software to read it. You 
> can find out more about this by searching on "bag of hurt" and bluray. I 
> think it came down to issue with implementing the DRM scheme which travels 
> all the way from the disk up the HDMI to the display. If anything in that 
> chain breaks or is missing playback fails. Someday I want to get one of these 
> drives as well so I can play with this but it's pretty far down on the list. 
> As others have said, when in doubt go with the OWC folks as they have a 
> history of finding models/flavors of hardware that happen to work right 
> and/or include the bit of software to make it so.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 11/5/12 7:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Marc,
>> 
>> In addition to Esther's informative post, take a look at this link:
>> http://www.macblurayplayer.com/how-to-play-a-bluray-disc-on-mac.htm
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-11-05, at 10:35 AM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Marc,
>>> 
>>> I don't use Blu-ray drives on my Mac, but if I were looking for such a
>>> drive and wanted to ensure compatibility with my Mac, I'd check Other
>>> World Computing, and either buy directly from them, or check what
>>> standard products in this category they offer.  You should not assume
>>> that external burners will automatically be recognized in your Mac
>>> applications in the same manner that native drives are.  OWC has a
>>> history of checking out and supporting these functions on the Mac.  A
>>> Google search of "owc bluray" brought up this link:
>>> http://eshop.macsales.com/search/external+blu+ray
>>> 
>>> You can probably follow up with direct queries to OWC. And there are
>>> likely list users who use DVD and Bluray devices who can help you more
>>> with specifics.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 6:53 am, Marc Rocheleau  wrote:
 So um... no one has any recommendations at all? I don't mean to be a
 pest about it but I really need this for my iMac and have no clue
 where to start. As mentioned in previous messages, I am looking for an
 optical drive with Blu ray and CD read/write capability. I am assuming
 any device that can read/write blue ray can do normal DVDs just fine
 too?
 
 Any help would still be grately appreciated.
 
 -Marc
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Re: digital recorder

[Chris Blouch]

If it were not for the requirement that the device be external, 
QuickTime Player makes for a quick handy recorder. Just launch it, make 
a new audio recording and then hit the Start Recording button. Of course 
you can hook up external audio inputs to the mac if you were looking for 
better sound.


CB

On 11/5/12 8:07 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote:
hello; garage band confuses me and i'm thinking i'll need something 
external. thanks, max

On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

You could just use Garage Band and not really have to purchase 
anything extra.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-05, at 2:46 PM, Maxwell Ivey > wrote:



thanks i will, max
On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:


I like the Olympus LS-7.
Look it up on Amazon as I think they sell it.

On 6/11/2012, at 10:11 AM, Maxwell Ivey > wrote:


Hello group; I have recently decided to purchase a digital audio 
recorder so that i can record audio interviews or descriptions to 
go with slide shows.  i was hoping you could recommend a good easy 
to use unit that would work well with my apple mac book pro. 
thanks for your suggestions, max


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Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[Harry Hogue]

Mike,

Personally, I would be interested in a copy of the audio file demonstrating how 
it works, etc.  I have thought of starting a podcast, but haven't decided on 
what yet, but I want a tool that will work for me should I decide to go in that 
direction.

Thanks,

Harry

On nov 8, 2012, at 12:47 p.m., Mike M  wrote:

> Hello,
>   I use it for all of the editing I do for my podcast at htb2.com.
>   It works very well and is really simple to use.
>   garage Band will also work but Amadeus Pro is much easier.
>   If you want I can send you a little recording of how it works.
> 
> Mike 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel C  wrote:
> 
>> Good day list,
>> I do podcasting, and normally use Windows to edit my podcasts. Since, 
>> however, my Windows machine is dying, I'm thinking of switching my 
>> production work over to my Mac.
>> Since this is my first Mac, I'm not sure what software I should use for 
>> audio editing. My gf told me about Amadeus, but I don't know how good it is 
>> or anything as no demo is available to try it.
>> Would Amadeus be something that'll work with voiceover? And if so how 
>> accessible is it?
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Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Mike. I'd also like a Demo if at all possible 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> Personally, I would be interested in a copy of the audio file demonstrating 
> how it works, etc.  I have thought of starting a podcast, but haven't decided 
> on what yet, but I want a tool that will work for me should I decide to go in 
> that direction.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry
> 
> On nov 8, 2012, at 12:47 p.m., Mike M  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>I use it for all of the editing I do for my podcast at htb2.com.
>>It works very well and is really simple to use.
>>garage Band will also work but Amadeus Pro is much easier.
>>If you want I can send you a little recording of how it works.
>> 
>> Mike 
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel C  wrote:
>> 
>>> Good day list,
>>> I do podcasting, and normally use Windows to edit my podcasts. Since, 
>>> however, my Windows machine is dying, I'm thinking of switching my 
>>> production work over to my Mac.
>>> Since this is my first Mac, I'm not sure what software I should use for 
>>> audio editing. My gf told me about Amadeus, but I don't know how good it is 
>>> or anything as no demo is available to try it.
>>> Would Amadeus be something that'll work with voiceover? And if so how 
>>> accessible is it?
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blind friendly flatbed scanners? any ideas?

[Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers]

OK, I know a scanner is a scanner, but some of them do menus which don't talk 
and make the dear little things more difficult for us to use. I suppose a lot 
of them will have touch screens now. 

Another issue I have had with scanners in the past is it being difficult to 
position documents/books for the best results. I suspect improvements in OCR 
may have made this less of a problem than it once was.

Anyway, it must be difficult to judge which scanner to buy, or it wouldn't 
appear as a topic with such regularity. So, any nominations for a current model 
which is reasonably priced, isn't fiddly to use, can handle documents at a 
speed which wouldn't make it off-putting to scan a small book and works with 
Macs would be very welcome indeed. I guess that reasonably priced thing rules 
out all those, what I shall from now on know to refer to as, SARA things.

Cheers

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Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[Daniel C]

Hello Mike and list,
I appreciate everyone's responses to my audio question. I do plan to buy 
Amadeus for my editing.
I believe it was Mike, I'd be interested in a demo as well of Amadeus when time 
allows for you.

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Re: digital recorder

[Maxwell Ivey]

thanks chris; had thought about that, but mainly want something independent of 
the mac for when i don't want to carry the laptop with me. thanks, max 
On Nov 8, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> If it were not for the requirement that the device be external, QuickTime 
> Player makes for a quick handy recorder. Just launch it, make a new audio 
> recording and then hit the Start Recording button. Of course you can hook up 
> external audio inputs to the mac if you were looking for better sound.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 11/5/12 8:07 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote:
>> hello; garage band confuses me and i'm thinking i'll need something 
>> external. thanks, max 
>> On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You could just use Garage Band and not really have to purchase anything 
>>> extra.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-11-05, at 2:46 PM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
>>> 
 thanks i will, max 
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
 
> I like the Olympus LS-7.
> Look it up on Amazon as I think they sell it.
> 
> On 6/11/2012, at 10:11 AM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
> 
>> Hello group; I have recently decided to purchase a digital audio 
>> recorder so that i can record audio interviews or descriptions to go 
>> with slide shows.  i was hoping you could recommend a good easy to use 
>> unit that would work well with my apple mac book pro. thanks for your 
>> suggestions, max  
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Re: Infovox iVox adds genuine children's voices to OS X

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Traci. In the VO utility, go to verbosity and select the text tab. You 
should be able to find settings that let you change how it reads capital 
letters and deleting text. In those pop up buttons, your choices are change 
pitch, play a tone, or do nothing. HTH.

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Re: Another Update About Infovox Demo Voices

[Matt Dierckens]

These are my first purchases, and I have the 30 day demo
Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

On 2012-11-08, at 2:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Okay, do you already have infovox voices or are these your first ones that 
> you want to buy? And do you already have the Infovox Ivox Voice Manager 
> installed?
> 
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> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> Having trouelbe purchasing credits and activating.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my mac
>> Twitter: matt692
>> 
>> On 2012-11-08, at 1:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having 
>>> exactly?
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
 
> Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having 
> trouble after you go to www.assistiveware.com
> - 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens  
> wrote:
> 
>> However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on 
>> safari, it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this 
>> happens.
>> I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I 
>> don't get these messages anymore.
>> Thanks.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my mac
>> Twitter: matt692
>> 
>> On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Cheryl,
>>> 
>>> I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what 
>>> they mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The 
>>> problem must be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. 
>>> Visiovoice was just their example of the kind of app they were warning 
>>> against. Some other examples would be the speech output for Growl, or 
>>> setting up certain apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to 
>>> automatically speak events. Another example is apps that are 
>>> self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If you configure the 
>>> Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time or to speak 
>>> alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use the 
>>> voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause that 
>>> problem with the demo.
>>> 
>>> I hope this explanation makes sense.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. 
 You can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote 
 back and said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I 
 emailed back and told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while 
 using the demo.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk 
  wrote:
 
> Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It 
> appears that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 
> 1 app. See below.
> Dear Shawn,
> 
> We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to 
> occur when two different application use the same voice in demo mode. 
> For example Voice Over and another application. 
> 
> We're investigating the problem and will try to come up with a 
> solution. I'm afraid that in the meantime the only solution we can 
> offer is to ask you to test the voices with one voice application 
> only.
> 
> Please note that the problem should not occur for activated 
> (purchased) voices.
> 
> Wit kind regards,
> 
> Martijn
> 
> 
> Shawn
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Purchasing Infovox

[Cheryl Homiak]

Here's the link you want.

http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox/buy

Be sure to look at the explanation of the cost of the voices in credits. You 
buy the credits first and then apply them to buy a specific voice in the 
infovox ivox voice manager. You didn't specify whether or not you have the 
infovox ivox voice manager; I would think it would have been installed when you 
downloaded the demo but I'm not sure. Look in /Applications. You use the voice 
manager to create an account and keep track of your voices and credits.


-- 
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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> These are my first purchases, and I have the 30 day demo
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> 
> On 2012-11-08, at 2:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Okay, do you already have infovox voices or are these your first ones that 
>> you want to buy? And do you already have the Infovox Ivox Voice Manager 
>> installed?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>>> Having trouelbe purchasing credits and activating.
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my mac
>>> Twitter: matt692
>>> 
>>> On 2012-11-08, at 1:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having 
 exactly?
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens  
 wrote:
 
> Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> 
> On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having 
>> trouble after you go to www.assistiveware.com
>> - 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on 
>>> safari, it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when this 
>>> happens.
>>> I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I 
>>> don't get these messages anymore.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my mac
>>> Twitter: matt692
>>> 
>>> On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Cheryl,
 
 I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what 
 they mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The 
 problem must be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. 
 Visiovoice was just their example of the kind of app they were warning 
 against. Some other examples would be the speech output for Growl, or 
 setting up certain apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or Skype to 
 automatically speak events. Another example is apps that are 
 self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If you configure the 
 Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time or to speak 
 alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use the 
 voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause 
 that problem with the demo.
 
 I hope this explanation makes sense.
 
 On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
 
> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make sense. 
> You can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They wrote 
> back and said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but I 
> emailed back and told them I had not opened visiovoice at all while 
> using the demo.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. I've received another email about the Infovox voices. It 
>> appears that the problem occurs when using the voices with more than 
>> 1 app. See below.
>> Dear Shawn,
>> 
>> We've traced back the problem with the demo voices. It happens to 
>> occur when two different application use the same voice

Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[keith weatherly]

i would like to get this recording too
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Bruinenberg" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10



Mike. I'd also like a Demo if at all possible

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:


Mike,

Personally, I would be interested in a copy of the audio file 
demonstrating how it works, etc.  I have thought of starting a podcast, 
but haven't decided on what yet, but I want a tool that will work for me 
should I decide to go in that direction.


Thanks,

Harry

On nov 8, 2012, at 12:47 p.m., Mike M  wrote:


Hello,
   I use it for all of the editing I do for my podcast at htb2.com.
   It works very well and is really simple to use.
   garage Band will also work but Amadeus Pro is much easier.
   If you want I can send you a little recording of how it works.

Mike
On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel C  wrote:


Good day list,
I do podcasting, and normally use Windows to edit my podcasts. Since, 
however, my Windows machine is dying, I'm thinking of switching my 
production work over to my Mac.
Since this is my first Mac, I'm not sure what software I should use for 
audio editing. My gf told me about Amadeus, but I don't know how good 
it is or anything as no demo is available to try it.
Would Amadeus be something that'll work with voiceover? And if so how 
accessible is it?


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Re: Purchasing Infovox

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi. Thank you so much, I got it to work, and am now using Will for my main 
voice.

Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

On 2012-11-08, at 6:39 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Here's the link you want.
> 
> http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox/buy
> 
> Be sure to look at the explanation of the cost of the voices in credits. You 
> buy the credits first and then apply them to buy a specific voice in the 
> infovox ivox voice manager. You didn't specify whether or not you have the 
> infovox ivox voice manager; I would think it would have been installed when 
> you downloaded the demo but I'm not sure. Look in /Applications. You use the 
> voice manager to create an account and keep track of your voices and credits.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> These are my first purchases, and I have the 30 day demo
>> Matt
>> Sent from my mac
>> Twitter: matt692
>> 
>> On 2012-11-08, at 2:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, do you already have infovox voices or are these your first ones that 
>>> you want to buy? And do you already have the Infovox Ivox Voice Manager 
>>> installed?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>> 
 Having trouelbe purchasing credits and activating.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 1:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
 
> Well, please be more specific if possible. What trouble are you having 
> exactly?
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Matt Dierckens  
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, having ttrouble when onthe website.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my mac
>> Twitter: matt692
>> 
>> On 2012-11-08, at 7:34 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Where are you having trouble figuring out how to buy? Are you having 
>>> trouble after you go to www.assistiveware.com
>>> - 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Matt Dierckens  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 However, everytime I've used those voices, just in textedit or on 
 safari, it gives me that message. No system voice is speaking when 
 this happens.
 I'm still trying to figure out how to purchase these voices so that I 
 don't get these messages anymore.
 Thanks.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2012-11-08, at 2:37 AM, Justin Ekis  wrote:
 
> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> I haven't experienced this myself, but I think I may understand what 
> they mean. Basically, reading any app with Voiceover is fine. The 
> problem must be when other apps try to speak using the system voice. 
> Visiovoice was just their example of the kind of app they were 
> warning against. Some other examples would be the speech output for 
> Growl, or setting up certain apps like adium, Messages/iChat, or 
> Skype to automatically speak events. Another example is apps that are 
> self-voicing such as the RS Games client. Also, If you configure the 
> Mac in system preferences to automatically speak the time or to speak 
> alerts after a delay. Basically, anything else that tries to use the 
> voice on it's own while voiceover is running will apparently cause 
> that problem with the demo.
> 
> I hope this explanation makes sense.
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> I got this too and i wrote back and told them that didn't make 
>> sense. You can't just use a voice in isolation with voiceover. They 
>> wrote back and said they meant an application such as Visiovoice but 
>> I emailed back and told them I had not opened visiovoice at all 
>> while using the demo.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Shawn Krasniuk 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. 

Re: Accessible Audio Editing Software for Mac OS10

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi,

I use Sound Studio to edit the Tech Doctor podcast. I am very happy with it and 
it is available in the Mac app store.

I found it much easier to use with VoiceOver than Amadeus. They are both good 
editors.

Robert Carter

On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel C  wrote:

> Good day list,
> I do podcasting, and normally use Windows to edit my podcasts. Since, 
> however, my Windows machine is dying, I'm thinking of switching my production 
> work over to my Mac.
> Since this is my first Mac, I'm not sure what software I should use for audio 
> editing. My gf told me about Amadeus, but I don't know how good it is or 
> anything as no demo is available to try it.
> Would Amadeus be something that'll work with voiceover? And if so how 
> accessible is it?
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Re: musical typing i Garageband?

[Gavin Grundlingh]

Hi Alex,

Which keystroke are you using to turn on musical typing? From what you 
described, it sounds like you brought up the keyboard window instead of turning 
on musical typing. Command-K shows or hides the keyboard window, while 
Command-Shift-K toggles musical typing. Hope this helps.

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On 08 Nov 2012, at 6:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I've turned on musical typing in Garageband, but nothing happens when I press 
> keys, even with vo off. I have a dialog with octave up/down buttons and an 
> empty scroll area, but that's it. I created a new project and added a track 
> to it, though as I selected piano in the first place I now have two piano 
> tracks. What am i missing to get this working right? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
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