Radio App for Mac
Hi, do you know of a good usable online radio app for the Mac? I want to listen to a lot of radio station which are not listed in iTunes. It's also not possible to add them to iTunes as a Stream. Actually I used Mini Radio but to me it seems not to be the best solution. Do you know of an easy to use online radio app that is accessible with VO? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: podcasts
Sorry, too many lists. I believe that the creator of downcast is working on a mac client but I don't think it is out yet I found a few in the Mac app store but I haven't tried any of them. On 29/11/2012, at 3:10 AM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Garth. I'm sorry, i should have been clearer. I do use downcast and I think it's a wonderful podcast player. Is there anything for the mac that would be a good alternative to play podcasts but not be iTunes? Thanks. Chris On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote: I would recommend either Downcast or iCatcher. I have done a podcast on Downcast which you can play with the following link. http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBt-024-DowncastApp.mp3 Enjoy Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com Follow me on twitter @iBlindTech or @iBlindTechDemo for just the podcast info. On 22/11/2012, at 9:53 AM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I'm sorry if this came through many times. Is there any suggestions for a podcast client excluding iTunes? Thank you for any help. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: figured out the issue with voice over saying the wrong number of apps in mountain lion
Cocktail is a commercial app which costs $14. You can use it ten times before it self destructs. Download and more info here: http://www.maintain.se/cocktail CB On 11/29/12 12:45 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: Mike, What is cocktail exactly? Also, how can I learn more about the processes on the Mac and what they do. I am curious about the comparisons between the PC processes, which I know like the back of my hand, and the Mac side of the coin, which is all still very new to me. Kristeen On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: If anyone is curious, I was able to figure this out. Even when I only had finder running, voiceover would still say there were 2 running apps. The notification center is considered an app, even though you cannot command tab to it, or select it from the dock. Since I never use this feature, I used an application called cocktail to disable it, now the number of running applications is spoken correctly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New BARD website
Hi, The site went back online lastnight and after you log in you will see a message about what happened on the 27th after the site went live. Matthew On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: thanks for replying. I also went to the website after I sent my e-mail about it. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. Cordially, Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marianne Denning [maria...@denningweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New BARD website I was curious so I just went to the site and they are down for maintenance. They noticed a problem with downloading yesterday so are working to fix the problem. On 11/28/12, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Hi, The download links on the BARD website don't work for me since they updated it. Has anyone else on this list experienced this problem? Rafael Bejarano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New BARD website
Thanks a lot Matthew. I will be sure to check it out. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:33 AM, matthew Dyer matthewdyer...@msn.com wrote: Hi, The site went back online lastnight and after you log in you will see a message about what happened on the 27th after the site went live. Matthew On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: thanks for replying. I also went to the website after I sent my e-mail about it. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. Cordially, Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marianne Denning [maria...@denningweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New BARD website I was curious so I just went to the site and they are down for maintenance. They noticed a problem with downloading yesterday so are working to fix the problem. On 11/28/12, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Hi, The download links on the BARD website don't work for me since they updated it. Has anyone else on this list experienced this problem? Rafael Bejarano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Talking community's again! solution!
Hi all! Well for those of you who might want to use a talking community's room there is a solution! This involves replacing the java in mountain lion with a older version using some terminal commands [these commands come from Apple support ] I have never used Terminal before but used these commands OK! So from the link I will post below you will be taken to the page that tells you what to do and there is commands to undo those commands if you wish to go back! One thing I did was to copy the commands [one at a time] with the copy last phrase to clipboard command!VO+shift+c then pasted them into the field! On the first one Terminal asked for my user pass word then for the other 3 I just had to press return! After following all the steps I could use the talking communities rooms again! Here is the link to the Apple support page! http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5559 Also I cannot remember on which list someone posted that when they got into the room they wanted the talk button was still dimmed! There is one more step to do with VO that is not mentioned on TC's help page! When you have got to the room and you find those buttons dimmed use the window chooser VO+f2 twice and then arrow down to the log in window and select it! Then find the log in link/button and VO+space on it and when your back in the room the buttons will be undimmed! Hth Colin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Nook accessibility is coming for the mac
I just had a nice exchange with the lead for the Barnes and Noble accessibility team. I suppose most people on this list know that the Nook app for ios is now wonderfully accessible with v/o. In response to a question, he stated that they have plans to make Nook accessible on both Mac and pc, and they plan to do it by using industry standard frameworks, so the customer and use the application as she/he chooses. Are you listening Amazon? No, probably not. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Safari acting strangely
Hi all, Safari has been acting a bit strangely on my Mac lately. I have ML (10.8) on my Mac. The main issue is that the full screen mode automatically gets disabled. Due to this, the layout of the toolbar changes and the back/forward buttons do not appear where they should. Even if I click on the full screen button, after sometime it then again goes back to how it was before. In addition, sometimes after I press VO-down arrow on the HTML option to open a webpage it does get opened initially, but after a while it again takes me back to the menu which appears before you click on the HTML option. This has been happening only for the last few days and I don't know why. Can anyone suggest a way to fix this? Do I need to reset Safari or something? And, since we're talking about Safari, another annoying issue that I have been facing since I installed ML is that VoiceOver constantly keeps announcing the downloaded percentage of a webpage until it reaches 100%. This is very annoying, especially when my internet speed is slow, because it's hard to keep waiting until it reaches 100% and the only way to use VO until then entails getting constantly prompted by VO while I'm trying to find my way around on a webpage. Any suggestions, please? Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
itunes 11 is out
Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New BARD website
Thanks for replying. Actually, I did see the message, but they are still having trouble with the site. When you conduct a search, only a few results display. I don't know if the problem is with Safari or with the site itself. I've informed NLS of the problem. On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:33 AM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi, The site went back online lastnight and after you log in you will see a message about what happened on the 27th after the site went live. Matthew On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: thanks for replying. I also went to the website after I sent my e-mail about it. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. Cordially, Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marianne Denning [maria...@denningweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New BARD website I was curious so I just went to the site and they are down for maintenance. They noticed a problem with downloading yesterday so are working to fix the problem. On 11/28/12, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Hi, The download links on the BARD website don't work for me since they updated it. Has anyone else on this list experienced this problem? Rafael Bejarano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari acting strangely
Hi there! Well for your progress loading problem just go to VO utility and select the web option in the table then the loading page tab and you will find the place to either choose tone or nothing button as yours is already set speak progress! hth Colin On 29 Nov 2012, at 17:55, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Safari has been acting a bit strangely on my Mac lately. I have ML (10.8) on my Mac. The main issue is that the full screen mode automatically gets disabled. Due to this, the layout of the toolbar changes and the back/forward buttons do not appear where they should. Even if I click on the full screen button, after sometime it then again goes back to how it was before. In addition, sometimes after I press VO-down arrow on the HTML option to open a webpage it does get opened initially, but after a while it again takes me back to the menu which appears before you click on the HTML option. This has been happening only for the last few days and I don't know why. Can anyone suggest a way to fix this? Do I need to reset Safari or something? And, since we're talking about Safari, another annoying issue that I have been facing since I installed ML is that VoiceOver constantly keeps announcing the downloaded percentage of a webpage until it reaches 100%. This is very annoying, especially when my internet speed is slow, because it's hard to keep waiting until it reaches 100% and the only way to use VO until then entails getting constantly prompted by VO while I'm trying to find my way around on a webpage. Any suggestions, please? Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac
Thanks, Mary! I knew they were going to do it. They did so much work on the IOS app that I figured it was likely they'd work on the PC and Mac ones as well. Teresa Nobody ever tells me anything!--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a nice exchange with the lead for the Barnes and Noble accessibility team. I suppose most people on this list know that the Nook app for ios is now wonderfully accessible with v/o. In response to a question, he stated that they have plans to make Nook accessible on both Mac and pc, and they plan to do it by using industry standard frameworks, so the customer and use the application as she/he chooses. Are you listening Amazon? No, probably not. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New BARD website
No, I do not believe it's a Safari issue. Besides, I just did a search or two this morning and pulled up quite a large list of books by Stephen King, both in audio and Braille. Perhaps it's what you are searching for? Just a wild guess. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Thanks for replying. Actually, I did see the message, but they are still having trouble with the site. When you conduct a search, only a few results display. I don't know if the problem is with Safari or with the site itself. I've informed NLS of the problem. On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:33 AM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi, The site went back online lastnight and after you log in you will see a message about what happened on the 27th after the site went live. Matthew On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: thanks for replying. I also went to the website after I sent my e-mail about it. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. Cordially, Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marianne Denning [maria...@denningweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New BARD website I was curious so I just went to the site and they are down for maintenance. They noticed a problem with downloading yesterday so are working to fix the problem. On 11/28/12, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Hi, The download links on the BARD website don't work for me since they updated it. Has anyone else on this list experienced this problem? Rafael Bejarano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac
I didn't ask about the stand alone Nook and whether it will be made accessible. Seems that could happen if they used standard Android and took advantage of what Google builds in for accessibility. But I didn't ask if they plan to do that. And by standard framework, I thin they meant that they'll use what's built in to provide accessibility, rather than making you use a clunky nonintuitive, half-baked piece of junk aka kindle for pc with accessibility plug in, which can't be used with a screen reader and is thus missing all the built in functionality for reading, searching etc. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: figured out the issue with voice over saying the wrong number of apps in mountain lion
It doesn't come with the mac, go to http://maintain.se Original message: Hi, How can I find that application called cocktail in my system? I am using macbook pro 13. Thank you. Nene - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:35 AM Subject: figured out the issue with voice over saying the wrong number of apps in mountain lion If anyone is curious, I was able to figure this out. Even when I only had finder running, voiceover would still say there were 2 running apps. The notification center is considered an app, even though you cannot command tab to it, or select it from the dock. Since I never use this feature, I used an application called cocktail to disable it, now the number of running applications is spoken correctly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: figured out the issue with voice over saying the wrong number of apps in mountain lion
Cocktail is an app that allows you to tweak some things, it will also do things like clear your cache. You can look at the processes on your mac by going in to activity monitor, you will find it in the utilities folder. Original message: Mike, What is cocktail exactly? Also, how can I learn more about the processes on the Mac and what they do. I am curious about the comparisons between the PC processes, which I know like the back of my hand, and the Mac side of the coin, which is all still very new to me. Kristeen On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: If anyone is curious, I was able to figure this out. Even when I only had finder running, voiceover would still say there were 2 running apps. The notification center is considered an app, even though you cannot command tab to it, or select it from the dock. Since I never use this feature, I used an application called cocktail to disable it, now the number of running applications is spoken correctly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac
Oh, that will be wonderful! I will be looking forward to this! -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a nice exchange with the lead for the Barnes and Noble accessibility team. I suppose most people on this list know that the Nook app for ios is now wonderfully accessible with v/o. In response to a question, he stated that they have plans to make Nook accessible on both Mac and pc, and they plan to do it by using industry standard frameworks, so the customer and use the application as she/he chooses. Are you listening Amazon? No, probably not. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac
Hello what do you search for on ios for the nook app only when I searched all I got was a ebook reader and it did not say nothing about nook so any help would be most grateful -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac I didn't ask about the stand alone Nook and whether it will be made accessible. Seems that could happen if they used standard Android and took advantage of what Google builds in for accessibility. But I didn't ask if they plan to do that. And by standard framework, I thin they meant that they'll use what's built in to provide accessibility, rather than making you use a clunky nonintuitive, half-baked piece of junk aka kindle for pc with accessibility plug in, which can't be used with a screen reader and is thus missing all the built in functionality for reading, searching etc. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: itunes 11 is out
I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Accessible shopping extension?
Hi, I'm not actually sure what this type of app or safari extension is called. My husband uses some sort of plug in with google chrome on his mac. When he shops online it will automatically fill out his contact info and he chooses which credit card he wants to use and he's done. It fill it all out for him. Is there something like this that is accessible with VO. I use Safari and I've never used google Chrome because I assume it isn't as accessible as safari. I am open to any solution that isn't super expensive. It does not necessarily have to be a safari plugin. I always have to ask my ten-year-old son to help me enter my credit card info and such. I would like to be more independent. Thanks so much, Christina Sent from Christina's iMac :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari acting strangely
Thanks Colin -- that did the job perfectly. Can you suggest anything for the other problem, my friend? On 29/11/2012, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi there! Well for your progress loading problem just go to VO utility and select the web option in the table then the loading page tab and you will find the place to either choose tone or nothing button as yours is already set speak progress! hth Colin On 29 Nov 2012, at 17:55, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Safari has been acting a bit strangely on my Mac lately. I have ML (10.8) on my Mac. The main issue is that the full screen mode automatically gets disabled. Due to this, the layout of the toolbar changes and the back/forward buttons do not appear where they should. Even if I click on the full screen button, after sometime it then again goes back to how it was before. In addition, sometimes after I press VO-down arrow on the HTML option to open a webpage it does get opened initially, but after a while it again takes me back to the menu which appears before you click on the HTML option. This has been happening only for the last few days and I don't know why. Can anyone suggest a way to fix this? Do I need to reset Safari or something? And, since we're talking about Safari, another annoying issue that I have been facing since I installed ML is that VoiceOver constantly keeps announcing the downloaded percentage of a webpage until it reaches 100%. This is very annoying, especially when my internet speed is slow, because it's hard to keep waiting until it reaches 100% and the only way to use VO until then entails getting constantly prompted by VO while I'm trying to find my way around on a webpage. Any suggestions, please? Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moving a Folder in Mac Mail
Has anyone successfully done this with vo? Even if i am trying to do this with contiguous folders, vo tells me that the original folder is no longer available for dragging (using the vo-comma and vo-period commands). Thanks for any help. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: itunes 11 is out
From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
RE: itunes 11 is out
What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac
Here's a direct link to the IOS app: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nook/id373582546?mt=8 HtH, Teresa Nobody ever tells me anything!--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:10 AM, wayne coles wayne...@gmail.com wrote: Hello what do you search for on ios for the nook app only when I searched all I got was a ebook reader and it did not say nothing about nook so any help would be most grateful -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac I didn't ask about the stand alone Nook and whether it will be made accessible. Seems that could happen if they used standard Android and took advantage of what Google builds in for accessibility. But I didn't ask if they plan to do that. And by standard framework, I thin they meant that they'll use what's built in to provide accessibility, rather than making you use a clunky nonintuitive, half-baked piece of junk aka kindle for pc with accessibility plug in, which can't be used with a screen reader and is thus missing all the built in functionality for reading, searching etc. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving a Folder in Mac Mail
Hi, Marc, Drag and drop seems to get much better results when using full-screen mode. Did you try this? Also, you can use the old method for drag and drop, VO-command-shift-space at the beginning and end of the operation. HtH, Teresa We're made of star-stuff.--Carl Sagan On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone successfully done this with vo? Even if i am trying to do this with contiguous folders, vo tells me that the original folder is no longer available for dragging (using the vo-comma and vo-period commands). Thanks for any help. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: itunes 11 is out
Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Color schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just don't know if it will happen. On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker dhac...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Color schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac
Hi Mary, Given your informative and direct connection, do you mind asking? Some if not many would appreciate a stand alone reader I am sure. Thanks for sharing, Karen On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Mary Otten wrote: I just had a nice exchange with the lead for the Barnes and Noble accessibility team. I suppose most people on this list know that the Nook app for ios is now wonderfully accessible with v/o. In response to a question, he stated that they have plans to make Nook accessible on both Mac and pc, and they plan to do it by using industry standard frameworks, so the customer and use the application as she/he chooses. Are you listening Amazon? No, probably not. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: itunes 11 is out
Oh. You can't do that, but they do offer something called up next, where you can queue up songs through iTunes to be played right after each other, without having to search your entire library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
RE: itunes 11 is out
If you don't want to use the library, then you're out of luck. I personally like the library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com http://googlegroups.com/ ] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: itunes 11 is out
Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
RE: itunes 11 is out
Um.the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com http://googlegroups.com/ ] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh
Re: itunes 11 is out
I have always disliked the library. That's because despite the fact that I tell ITunes not to keep everything organized, it always insists on putting my stuf where it wants to instead of where I want it to. That always makes it harder to quickly find exactly what I'm looking for. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: If you don’t want to use the library, then you’re out of luck. I personally like the library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
RE: itunes 11 is out
Hmm, that's weird, cuz once you uncheck that box to not keep your library organized, it shouldn't anymore. Perhaps next time you have to redo your library, uncheck that box first? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I have always disliked the library. That's because despite the fact that I tell ITunes not to keep everything organized, it always insists on putting my stuf where it wants to instead of where I want it to. That always makes it harder to quickly find exactly what I'm looking for. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't want to use the library, then you're out of luck. I personally like the library. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell mailto:wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr mailto:rfore...@att.net rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original
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Go to iTunes preferences. Then go to advance in the toolbar and you have two options to play with. 1. Keep iTunes media folder organised (this is checked by default). 2. Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to library (this is checked by default). Untick these options, and it should then give you what you want. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and
Re: Accessible shopping extension?
Christina, There should be no problem entering credit card information on sites using Safari. What kinds of problems do you find yourself having when attempting to complete purchases online? I'm not familiar with an extension or plugin to allow the auto-completing of contact information or credit card numbers, but I'm always unsure about using such things, if they exist, because of security concerns. Thanks, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 12:12 p.m., Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm not actually sure what this type of app or safari extension is called. My husband uses some sort of plug in with google chrome on his mac. When he shops online it will automatically fill out his contact info and he chooses which credit card he wants to use and he's done. It fill it all out for him. Is there something like this that is accessible with VO. I use Safari and I've never used google Chrome because I assume it isn't as accessible as safari. I am open to any solution that isn't super expensive. It does not necessarily have to be a safari plugin. I always have to ask my ten-year-old son to help me enter my credit card info and such. I would like to be more independent. Thanks so much, Christina Sent from Christina's iMac :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
Yes the store uses headings, there are heading 3 and 5, no heading 1 and 2s etc.. The structure is all wrong. It could be organised much better. On screen everything sits where it should, but voiceover moves from left to right and the store is actually organised from top to bottom in columns. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now
RE: itunes 11 is out
Hmm, I'll have to have someone look at it with me when I get the chance. From what I can tell, VoiceOver moves the way it needs to move, but I could be wrong. I've never had any difficulty finding what I want in the store. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Yes the store uses headings, there are heading 3 and 5, no heading 1 and 2s etc.. The structure is all wrong. It could be organised much better. On screen everything sits where it should, but voiceover moves from left to right and the store is actually organised from top to bottom in columns. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um.the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr mailto:rfore...@att.net rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel
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If you just want to play songs from the finder, why not just hit the spacebar which will then perform a quick view and then start playing the song without having to even open iTunes? On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:40, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
RE: itunes 11 is out
Chris, You stole the words out of my mouth, lol. I think he wants multiple songs queued from there, which iTunes doesn't do. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:33 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out If you just want to play songs from the finder, why not just hit the spacebar which will then perform a quick view and then start playing the song without having to even open iTunes? On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:40, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com http://googlegroups.com/ ] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: New BARD website
Hi there I am not having any problems with the new Bard site. I am using Safari with my MacBook Pro, and it works fine. I just downloaded a whole pile of books from bar. As a matter fact, I think at the thing is faster. Of course, it doesn't take as long to download the Brf files As it does for the audiobooks. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: No, I do not believe it's a Safari issue. Besides, I just did a search or two this morning and pulled up quite a large list of books by Stephen King, both in audio and Braille. Perhaps it's what you are searching for? Just a wild guess. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Thanks for replying. Actually, I did see the message, but they are still having trouble with the site. When you conduct a search, only a few results display. I don't know if the problem is with Safari or with the site itself. I've informed NLS of the problem. On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:33 AM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi, The site went back online lastnight and after you log in you will see a message about what happened on the 27th after the site went live. Matthew On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: thanks for replying. I also went to the website after I sent my e-mail about it. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. Cordially, Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marianne Denning [maria...@denningweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New BARD website I was curious so I just went to the site and they are down for maintenance. They noticed a problem with downloading yesterday so are working to fix the problem. On 11/28/12, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Hi, The download links on the BARD website don't work for me since they updated it. Has anyone else on this list experienced this problem? Rafael Bejarano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
i am just being picky as web accessibility is my field. I agree it does not cause any major problems, but it could be made so much better and more intuitive. Guess I am going to have to write to the usual Apple departments. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:31, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, I’ll have to have someone look at it with me when I get the chance. From what I can tell, VoiceOver moves the way it needs to move, but I could be wrong. I’ve never had any difficulty finding what I want in the store. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Yes the store uses headings, there are heading 3 and 5, no heading 1 and 2s etc.. The structure is all wrong. It could be organised much better. On screen everything sits where it should, but voiceover moves from left to right and the store is actually organised from top to bottom in columns. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
I personally would be hard put to buy ZoomText. Yes, it may better fit others, but Zoom and VoiceOver seem fine on the Mac. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: itunes 11 is out
Ah, that makes sense. I'd be picky too, then. J From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out i am just being picky as web accessibility is my field. I agree it does not cause any major problems, but it could be made so much better and more intuitive. Guess I am going to have to write to the usual Apple departments. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:31, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, I'll have to have someone look at it with me when I get the chance. From what I can tell, VoiceOver moves the way it needs to move, but I could be wrong. I've never had any difficulty finding what I want in the store. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Yes the store uses headings, there are heading 3 and 5, no heading 1 and 2s etc.. The structure is all wrong. It could be organised much better. On screen everything sits where it should, but voiceover moves from left to right and the store is actually organised from top to bottom in columns. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um.the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr mailto:rfore...@att.net rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not quite sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ http://googlegroups.com/ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: New BARD website
Which version of Safari did you use? On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: No, I do not believe it's a Safari issue. Besides, I just did a search or two this morning and pulled up quite a large list of books by Stephen King, both in audio and Braille. Perhaps it's what you are searching for? Just a wild guess. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edumailto:beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Thanks for replying. Actually, I did see the message, but they are still having trouble with the site. When you conduct a search, only a few results display. I don't know if the problem is with Safari or with the site itself. I've informed NLS of the problem. On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:33 AM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi, The site went back online lastnight and after you log in you will see a message about what happened on the 27th after the site went live. Matthew On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: thanks for replying. I also went to the website after I sent my e-mail about it. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. Cordially, Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marianne Denning [maria...@denningweb.commailto:maria...@denningweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New BARD website I was curious so I just went to the site and they are down for maintenance. They noticed a problem with downloading yesterday so are working to fix the problem. On 11/28/12, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edumailto:beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Hi, The download links on the BARD website don't work for me since they updated it. Has anyone else on this list experienced this problem? Rafael Bejarano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
Hi Alex, There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches more complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used Zoom for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't a comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's a fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know if the parallel for magnification is valid. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just don't know if it will happen. On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker dhac...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Color schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it will say Preview the song, etc. HTH, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: itunes 11 is out
Ah, but as long as the buy buttons are clearly labeled, I'm good. That's a small issue, but one that's really not that bad, since I generally know where the preview buttons are anyway. Good point, though -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New BARD website
Thanks for the feedback. On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi there I am not having any problems with the new Bard site. I am using Safari with my MacBook Pro, and it works fine. I just downloaded a whole pile of books from bar. As a matter fact, I think at the thing is faster. Of course, it doesn't take as long to download the Brf files As it does for the audiobooks. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.netmailto:rfore...@att.net wrote: No, I do not believe it's a Safari issue. Besides, I just did a search or two this morning and pulled up quite a large list of books by Stephen King, both in audio and Braille. Perhaps it's what you are searching for? Just a wild guess. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edumailto:beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Thanks for replying. Actually, I did see the message, but they are still having trouble with the site. When you conduct a search, only a few results display. I don't know if the problem is with Safari or with the site itself. I've informed NLS of the problem. On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:33 AM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi, The site went back online lastnight and after you log in you will see a message about what happened on the 27th after the site went live. Matthew On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: thanks for replying. I also went to the website after I sent my e-mail about it. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. Cordially, Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marianne Denning [maria...@denningweb.commailto:maria...@denningweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New BARD website I was curious so I just went to the site and they are down for maintenance. They noticed a problem with downloading yesterday so are working to fix the problem. On 11/28/12, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edumailto:beja...@hsu.edu wrote: Hi, The download links on the BARD website don't work for me since they updated it. Has anyone else on this list experienced this problem? Rafael Bejarano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: itunes 11 is out
I know, but I have my hints turned off as they are so annoying when you've been using VO for quite a while. My point is that this used to work in earlier builds and seemed to stop working earlier this year. Apple can fix it from their end, it would not require a new build of iTunes as it is just the way they have implemented the alt tag. However, if you look around the store you will notice that albums no longer have this button, and instead work like iOS and just feature a song number which is dimmed. So I guess the store is still very much under construction. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:47, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it will say Preview the song, etc. HTH, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
Tried that already. No good. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, that’s weird, cuz once you uncheck that box to not keep your library organized, it shouldn’t anymore. Perhaps next time you have to redo your library, uncheck that box first? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I have always disliked the library. That's because despite the fact that I tell ITunes not to keep everything organized, it always insists on putting my stuf where it wants to instead of where I want it to. That always makes it harder to quickly find exactly what I'm looking for. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: If you don’t want to use the library, then you’re out of luck. I personally like the library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To:
Re: itunes 11 is out
I know all that. I tried all that too. It ain't a matter of my not knowing; rather, it's a matter of it's not working right. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Go to iTunes preferences. Then go to advance in the toolbar and you have two options to play with. 1. Keep iTunes media folder organised (this is checked by default). 2. Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to library (this is checked by default). Untick these options, and it should then give you what you want. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday,
Easiest Way to Use Mail and save Attachments in Lion
Hello, guys, I have a friend who uses a macBook Pro running Lion, and he runs Mail in the modern (not the classic) view. When he VO-J's over to the message text, sometimes he says it lands him on the message content instead of saying text and starting to read the message. He is also having trouble figuring out how to save attachments. I just wondered if the classic view for Mail would be easier for him? I don't use this view myself, so I'm not very familiar with it. He says he probably won't use Mail attachments very often, but I'm teaching him about creating files, folders, and saving files in folders, and thought mail attachments would be a useful skill. He is a fairly basic computer user. I thought about having him setup a keyboard command to save attachments from a mail message, but then figured that would be way to complicated to explain to him. And, on a completely unrelated note, for me, does anyone know the quickest way to get back to the sources table in iTunes when I am in the HTML area of the iTunes Store? Thanks so much, guys. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
That won't work if I'm streaming stuff. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: If you just want to play songs from the finder, why not just hit the spacebar which will then perform a quick view and then start playing the song without having to even open iTunes? On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:40, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: itunes 11 is out
Hi. I think he means within the library it's self. What I think might be the issue is the tagging of songs. If they aren't tagged correctly, iTunes won't sort them correctly. There are apps you can purchase that'll fix tagging if you want. HTH, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-11-29, at 3:25 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Go to iTunes preferences. Then go to advance in the toolbar and you have two options to play with. 1. Keep iTunes media folder organised (this is checked by default). 2. Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to library (this is checked by default). Untick these options, and it should then give you what you want. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: itunes 11 is out
Chris, I've not yet upgraded to iTunes 11, but you're right. It used to work earlier, and I, too, had hints turned off, and then I realized I really needed them for a particular webpage, so I turned them back on. They don't bother me too much -- I just use what I need and ignore the ones I don't. And, of course, I could always use VO-shift-H, I think it is. Most often, though, I forget that command. :) Thanks, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:47 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: I know, but I have my hints turned off as they are so annoying when you've been using VO for quite a while. My point is that this used to work in earlier builds and seemed to stop working earlier this year. Apple can fix it from their end, it would not require a new build of iTunes as it is just the way they have implemented the alt tag. However, if you look around the store you will notice that albums no longer have this button, and instead work like iOS and just feature a song number which is dimmed. So I guess the store is still very much under construction. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:47, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it will say Preview the song, etc. HTH, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You
Re: itunes 11 is out
Well, you could always play directly from the finder but if I understandit correctly that added them to your library. You play files from the finder by doing vo-space on them and if they are a type of file that is set to play in iTunes by default, they will play. The same is true with other players. For instance, I have several file types set to play in vlc by default so when I do vo-space on those files in finder, the files play in vlc. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received
Re: Easiest Way to Use Mail and save Attachments in Lion
hello; i use the classic mode. when saving files i go to the menu arrow right to file and then down once followed by pressing the letter s because that gets me close to the right selection quicker. if there are attachments i press save attachments there and tell the mac where i want them saved. its a shame it won't let me do a keyboard combination like when i attach files. i do a shift command a and then select what files to attach. hope that helps, max On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: Hello, guys, I have a friend who uses a macBook Pro running Lion, and he runs Mail in the modern (not the classic) view. When he VO-J's over to the message text, sometimes he says it lands him on the message content instead of saying text and starting to read the message. He is also having trouble figuring out how to save attachments. I just wondered if the classic view for Mail would be easier for him? I don't use this view myself, so I'm not very familiar with it. He says he probably won't use Mail attachments very often, but I'm teaching him about creating files, folders, and saving files in folders, and thought mail attachments would be a useful skill. He is a fairly basic computer user. I thought about having him setup a keyboard command to save attachments from a mail message, but then figured that would be way to complicated to explain to him. And, on a completely unrelated note, for me, does anyone know the quickest way to get back to the sources table in iTunes when I am in the HTML area of the iTunes Store? Thanks so much, guys. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Easiest Way to Use Mail and save Attachments in Lion
hello Max, I had him go to the menu and go to file, and save attachments, and that worked great, but I wasn't sure if there was a slightly quicker way. What do you like about the classic view over the modern view? Thanks for your reply, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:55 p.m., Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: hello; i use the classic mode. when saving files i go to the menu arrow right to file and then down once followed by pressing the letter s because that gets me close to the right selection quicker. if there are attachments i press save attachments there and tell the mac where i want them saved. its a shame it won't let me do a keyboard combination like when i attach files. i do a shift command a and then select what files to attach. hope that helps, max On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: Hello, guys, I have a friend who uses a macBook Pro running Lion, and he runs Mail in the modern (not the classic) view. When he VO-J's over to the message text, sometimes he says it lands him on the message content instead of saying text and starting to read the message. He is also having trouble figuring out how to save attachments. I just wondered if the classic view for Mail would be easier for him? I don't use this view myself, so I'm not very familiar with it. He says he probably won't use Mail attachments very often, but I'm teaching him about creating files, folders, and saving files in folders, and thought mail attachments would be a useful skill. He is a fairly basic computer user. I thought about having him setup a keyboard command to save attachments from a mail message, but then figured that would be way to complicated to explain to him. And, on a completely unrelated note, for me, does anyone know the quickest way to get back to the sources table in iTunes when I am in the HTML area of the iTunes Store? Thanks so much, guys. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Easiest Way to Use Mail and save Attachments in Lion
That's what I did, set up a keystroke through shortcuts in system preferences. I also killed the preview pane and just press enter to open messages and cmd-w to close them. I prefer this because (1) I don't have a message marked as read just because I arrow past it, and (2) if vo ever does fail to land on the text, I just hit vo-a and it will read the message. I almost forgot: with headers displayed, this method also makes it much easier to see those headers. In iTunes, I usually just hit vo-cmd-t to go to that table, but I'm sure someone will describe a hotspot method. I never understood hotspots so don't use them, but if I did then iTunes would be a prime candidate. On 11/29/12, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, guys, I have a friend who uses a macBook Pro running Lion, and he runs Mail in the modern (not the classic) view. When he VO-J's over to the message text, sometimes he says it lands him on the message content instead of saying text and starting to read the message. He is also having trouble figuring out how to save attachments. I just wondered if the classic view for Mail would be easier for him? I don't use this view myself, so I'm not very familiar with it. He says he probably won't use Mail attachments very often, but I'm teaching him about creating files, folders, and saving files in folders, and thought mail attachments would be a useful skill. He is a fairly basic computer user. I thought about having him setup a keyboard command to save attachments from a mail message, but then figured that would be way to complicated to explain to him. And, on a completely unrelated note, for me, does anyone know the quickest way to get back to the sources table in iTunes when I am in the HTML area of the iTunes Store? Thanks so much, guys. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
Yes, that's my point. If zoom on mac compared to zoom on windows is anything like vo compared to narrator, then, as you said, there's no comparison. Can some low-vision users chime in here? Maybe us totals are missing something? On 11/29/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches more complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used Zoom for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't a comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's a fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know if the parallel for magnification is valid. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just don't know if it will happen. On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker dhac...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Color schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Easiest Way to Use Mail and save Attachments in Lion
Hi Alex, Hotspots are tricky, because they only stay for short periods of time. I used to have a hotspot to go to the search box in the iTunes Store, until I realized I could press command+option+F. I love that command, now. I will play with the classic view. Thanks so much, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:58 p.m., Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I did, set up a keystroke through shortcuts in system preferences. I also killed the preview pane and just press enter to open messages and cmd-w to close them. I prefer this because (1) I don't have a message marked as read just because I arrow past it, and (2) if vo ever does fail to land on the text, I just hit vo-a and it will read the message. I almost forgot: with headers displayed, this method also makes it much easier to see those headers. In iTunes, I usually just hit vo-cmd-t to go to that table, but I'm sure someone will describe a hotspot method. I never understood hotspots so don't use them, but if I did then iTunes would be a prime candidate. On 11/29/12, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, guys, I have a friend who uses a macBook Pro running Lion, and he runs Mail in the modern (not the classic) view. When he VO-J's over to the message text, sometimes he says it lands him on the message content instead of saying text and starting to read the message. He is also having trouble figuring out how to save attachments. I just wondered if the classic view for Mail would be easier for him? I don't use this view myself, so I'm not very familiar with it. He says he probably won't use Mail attachments very often, but I'm teaching him about creating files, folders, and saving files in folders, and thought mail attachments would be a useful skill. He is a fairly basic computer user. I thought about having him setup a keyboard command to save attachments from a mail message, but then figured that would be way to complicated to explain to him. And, on a completely unrelated note, for me, does anyone know the quickest way to get back to the sources table in iTunes when I am in the HTML area of the iTunes Store? Thanks so much, guys. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Easiest Way to Use Mail and save Attachments in Lion
I forgot to say that I use the standard mail view and much prefer it. On 11/29/12, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Hotspots are tricky, because they only stay for short periods of time. I used to have a hotspot to go to the search box in the iTunes Store, until I realized I could press command+option+F. I love that command, now. I will play with the classic view. Thanks so much, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:58 p.m., Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I did, set up a keystroke through shortcuts in system preferences. I also killed the preview pane and just press enter to open messages and cmd-w to close them. I prefer this because (1) I don't have a message marked as read just because I arrow past it, and (2) if vo ever does fail to land on the text, I just hit vo-a and it will read the message. I almost forgot: with headers displayed, this method also makes it much easier to see those headers. In iTunes, I usually just hit vo-cmd-t to go to that table, but I'm sure someone will describe a hotspot method. I never understood hotspots so don't use them, but if I did then iTunes would be a prime candidate. On 11/29/12, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, guys, I have a friend who uses a macBook Pro running Lion, and he runs Mail in the modern (not the classic) view. When he VO-J's over to the message text, sometimes he says it lands him on the message content instead of saying text and starting to read the message. He is also having trouble figuring out how to save attachments. I just wondered if the classic view for Mail would be easier for him? I don't use this view myself, so I'm not very familiar with it. He says he probably won't use Mail attachments very often, but I'm teaching him about creating files, folders, and saving files in folders, and thought mail attachments would be a useful skill. He is a fairly basic computer user. I thought about having him setup a keyboard command to save attachments from a mail message, but then figured that would be way to complicated to explain to him. And, on a completely unrelated note, for me, does anyone know the quickest way to get back to the sources table in iTunes when I am in the HTML area of the iTunes Store? Thanks so much, guys. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
Well, if you really don't want to use iTunes, set your files to play in something else. Most of my files play in vlc by default so they only play in iTunes if I want them to do that on purpose. Most of the files in my iTunes library are ones I purchased from iTunes. it is not really that I don't like iTunes; it's that I had a bunch of music I ripped before iTunes was even an idea in the back of my mind and so iTunes either doesn't identify them correctly or assigns tracks incorrectly or leaves the track blank which means your albums will play in alphabetical order of the song names usually. I haven't time to straighten this out so I primarily use vlc which doesn't mess with my files. If I still had all the cds I ripped and gave away, I'd have a fantastic iTunes library and I'd probably like it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts
Re: itunes 11 is out
That sounds nice! Of course you could sort of do that with playlists but I realize that isn't really the same thing as queueing up what you want on the fly. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Oh. You can’t do that, but they do offer something called up next, where you can queue up songs through iTunes to be played right after each other, without having to search your entire library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfRay Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: itunes 11 is out
I guess I never thought of it as not intuitive. I guess intuitive or not depends partly on what you are expecting. Probably if it was changed now to what you consider intuitive, I'd pull my hair out for the first ten minutes or so and then I'd eventually forget the switch and come to say that was intuitive. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: i am just being picky as web accessibility is my field. I agree it does not cause any major problems, but it could be made so much better and more intuitive. Guess I am going to have to write to the usual Apple departments. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:31, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, I’ll have to have someone look at it with me when I get the chance. From what I can tell, VoiceOver moves the way it needs to move, but I could be wrong. I’ve never had any difficulty finding what I want in the store. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Yes the store uses headings, there are heading 3 and 5, no heading 1 and 2s etc.. The structure is all wrong. It could be organised much better. On screen everything sits where it should, but voiceover moves from left to right and the store is actually organised from top to bottom in columns. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
I don't think there's any reason to make that comparison, it's just not valid. Zoom on Mac works but it's not a sophisticated product. Voiceover works and it IS a sophisticated product. Ai Squared sees an opportunity to better Zoom related features. Also, the way Voiceover works may be fantastic (your mileage may vary) for blind users but for users who simply need reading support it's clear that there is an opportunity to build it. Put it this way, ZT Win does very well even though there is built in Zooming on Windows and sophisticated (JAWS, Windows Eyes) screen readers on the market as well as decent free ones (NVDA). On Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00:43 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: Yes, that's my point. If zoom on mac compared to zoom on windows is anything like vo compared to narrator, then, as you said, there's no comparison. Can some low-vision users chime in here? Maybe us totals are missing something? On 11/29/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspip...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi Alex, There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches more complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used Zoom for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't a comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's a fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know if the parallel for magnification is valid. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall meh...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just don't know if it will happen. On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker dha...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Color schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.netjavascript: wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) meh...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
Re: Moving a Folder in Mac Mail
Hi Teresa, Thanks for the full-screen mode tip. That did the trick. It also seems to work better in classic than modern view but i am going to go back to modern view and see what the results are like now that i am getting success. And, yes, it was the old 5-key mouse-down command that made it work as well. Thanks again. Marc On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Marc, Drag and drop seems to get much better results when using full-screen mode. Did you try this? Also, you can use the old method for drag and drop, VO-command-shift-space at the beginning and end of the operation. HtH, Teresa We're made of star-stuff.--Carl Sagan On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone successfully done this with vo? Even if i am trying to do this with contiguous folders, vo tells me that the original folder is no longer available for dragging (using the vo-comma and vo-period commands). Thanks for any help. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Easiest Way to Use Mail and save Attachments in Lion
hi; i wish there were a quicker way. for some reason in lion there are many things where you can't enter the keyboard combination. for example you can go into text edit and the menu there and save a document if you want to be sure which version of the doc is being saved. but you can't just type shift command s like you used to. would be nice if someone on the list would create a script for saving attachments. classic just feels more like what i was used to in leopard less thinking. take care, max On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: hello Max, I had him go to the menu and go to file, and save attachments, and that worked great, but I wasn't sure if there was a slightly quicker way. What do you like about the classic view over the modern view? Thanks for your reply, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:55 p.m., Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: hello; i use the classic mode. when saving files i go to the menu arrow right to file and then down once followed by pressing the letter s because that gets me close to the right selection quicker. if there are attachments i press save attachments there and tell the mac where i want them saved. its a shame it won't let me do a keyboard combination like when i attach files. i do a shift command a and then select what files to attach. hope that helps, max On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: Hello, guys, I have a friend who uses a macBook Pro running Lion, and he runs Mail in the modern (not the classic) view. When he VO-J's over to the message text, sometimes he says it lands him on the message content instead of saying text and starting to read the message. He is also having trouble figuring out how to save attachments. I just wondered if the classic view for Mail would be easier for him? I don't use this view myself, so I'm not very familiar with it. He says he probably won't use Mail attachments very often, but I'm teaching him about creating files, folders, and saving files in folders, and thought mail attachments would be a useful skill. He is a fairly basic computer user. I thought about having him setup a keyboard command to save attachments from a mail message, but then figured that would be way to complicated to explain to him. And, on a completely unrelated note, for me, does anyone know the quickest way to get back to the sources table in iTunes when I am in the HTML area of the iTunes Store? Thanks so much, guys. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
First of all, we are trying to help each other and none of us has any idea what the rest of us know and don't know so you are always going to get some advice you've already tried. secondly, if it doesn't work, one of two things is true (1) you haven't figured out how to implement it; or (2) it's a bug of some kind and you can google or in other ways check whether it's been reported and if not you can report it. If it's truly a bug and you've reported it, you've done all you can except that you may also be able to search and find workarounds from people who have encountered the same nasty bug. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: I know all that. I tried all that too. It ain't a matter of my not knowing; rather, it's a matter of it's not working right. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Go to iTunes preferences. Then go to advance in the toolbar and you have two options to play with. 1. Keep iTunes media folder organised (this is checked by default). 2. Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to library (this is checked by default). Untick these options, and it should then give you what you want. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as
fixing music tags for iTunes: was: itunes 11 is out
I'd like some referrals on apps to fix tags. Most of what I have heard of requires one to do a lot of information input which is just what I don't really have the time for but if there's something out there I haven't tried, I'd be interested. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I think he means within the library it's self. What I think might be the issue is the tagging of songs. If they aren't tagged correctly, iTunes won't sort them correctly. There are apps you can purchase that'll fix tagging if you want. HTH, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-11-29, at 3:25 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Go to iTunes preferences. Then go to advance in the toolbar and you have two options to play with. 1. Keep iTunes media folder organised (this is checked by default). 2. Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to library (this is checked by default). Untick these options, and it should then give you what you want. On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Have you not heard of playlists? Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is ticked. iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too. iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in full screen mode). I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess. Does not even follow standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure. I am sure visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit of a mess on that home screen. To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me. Chris On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
Ok, I think that if what you say, Dhacker, is correct, then maybe we should take screen-readers out of the equation entirely and concentrate on magnification software. I've never seen a discussion comparing various magnification apps on the PC versus the Mac. Thanks for the input. Most of the folks I know who've used Zoom on the Mac have never used anything else. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:13 PM, dhacker dhac...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think there's any reason to make that comparison, it's just not valid. Zoom on Mac works but it's not a sophisticated product. Voiceover works and it IS a sophisticated product. Ai Squared sees an opportunity to better Zoom related features. Also, the way Voiceover works may be fantastic (your mileage may vary) for blind users but for users who simply need reading support it's clear that there is an opportunity to build it. Put it this way, ZT Win does very well even though there is built in Zooming on Windows and sophisticated (JAWS, Windows Eyes) screen readers on the market as well as decent free ones (NVDA). On Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00:43 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: Yes, that's my point. If zoom on mac compared to zoom on windows is anything like vo compared to narrator, then, as you said, there's no comparison. Can some low-vision users chime in here? Maybe us totals are missing something? On 11/29/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches more complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used Zoom for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't a comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's a fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know if the parallel for magnification is valid. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall meh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just don't know if it will happen. On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker dha...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Color schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com.
Re: Moving a Folder in Mac Mail
I wonder why people have to do such different things to get this to work. For instance, the new drag and drop usually works for me in mail now but I have a friend who got it to work once and never again. There has to be some reason why some people have to use full screen mode and some don't and some have to use the old drag and drop and some don't or for that matter why one method sometime work for any given person but sometimes doesn't. It's nice to have all these options but it would be nice if one could predict accurately what would work in various situations. There has to be some kind of rhyme or reason to it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Teresa, Thanks for the full-screen mode tip. That did the trick. It also seems to work better in classic than modern view but i am going to go back to modern view and see what the results are like now that i am getting success. And, yes, it was the old 5-key mouse-down command that made it work as well. Thanks again. Marc On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Marc, Drag and drop seems to get much better results when using full-screen mode. Did you try this? Also, you can use the old method for drag and drop, VO-command-shift-space at the beginning and end of the operation. HtH, Teresa We're made of star-stuff.--Carl Sagan On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone successfully done this with vo? Even if i am trying to do this with contiguous folders, vo tells me that the original folder is no longer available for dragging (using the vo-comma and vo-period commands). Thanks for any help. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
Hi there! Well I do not use zoom but I remember someone saying a while ago that they wished the Mac version could give options to change colours so you could have yellow text on a blue back ground or something else! And as far as I know zoom text can do this [but I'm not sure] You only have black on white or white on black on the Mac! Colin On 29 Nov 2012, at 21:29, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I think that if what you say, Dhacker, is correct, then maybe we should take screen-readers out of the equation entirely and concentrate on magnification software. I've never seen a discussion comparing various magnification apps on the PC versus the Mac. Thanks for the input. Most of the folks I know who've used Zoom on the Mac have never used anything else. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:13 PM, dhacker dhac...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think there's any reason to make that comparison, it's just not valid. Zoom on Mac works but it's not a sophisticated product. Voiceover works and it IS a sophisticated product. Ai Squared sees an opportunity to better Zoom related features. Also, the way Voiceover works may be fantastic (your mileage may vary) for blind users but for users who simply need reading support it's clear that there is an opportunity to build it. Put it this way, ZT Win does very well even though there is built in Zooming on Windows and sophisticated (JAWS, Windows Eyes) screen readers on the market as well as decent free ones (NVDA). On Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00:43 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: Yes, that's my point. If zoom on mac compared to zoom on windows is anything like vo compared to narrator, then, as you said, there's no comparison. Can some low-vision users chime in here? Maybe us totals are missing something? On 11/29/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches more complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used Zoom for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't a comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's a fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know if the parallel for magnification is valid. Teresa Visualise whirled peas. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall meh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just don't know if it will happen. On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker dha...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Colour schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
I too am a VoiceOver only user. I have spoken at length with friends of mine who are low vision users though. Not to stray to far off topic for this list, but by all accounts from people I know, magnification on any version of windows is hardly sufficient. As was stated earlier in this thread, comparing builtin windows magnification to a product like zoom text is like comparing narrator to jaws. As for zoom text coming to the mac, if it does nothing else, it will certainly be a familiar comfort for windows users who are considering switching. I say this only because someone has expressed to me their hesitancy to switch because they like the features of zoom text and don't think zoom on the mac gives them all thse features. The mac users who are experienced with zoom may not wish to even consider zoom text, but for new or those considering switching, it might be that last push for them to make the complete change. I can't debate the merrits of zoom on the mac because I can't see, just offering an opinion based on conversations with magnification users. - Original Message - From: dhacker To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:13 PM Subject: Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon I don't think there's any reason to make that comparison, it's just not valid. Zoom on Mac works but it's not a sophisticated product. Voiceover works and it IS a sophisticated product. Ai Squared sees an opportunity to better Zoom related features. Also, the way Voiceover works may be fantastic (your mileage may vary) for blind users but for users who simply need reading support it's clear that there is an opportunity to build it. Put it this way, ZT Win does very well even though there is built in Zooming on Windows and sophisticated (JAWS, Windows Eyes) screen readers on the market as well as decent free ones (NVDA). On Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00:43 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: Yes, that's my point. If zoom on mac compared to zoom on windows is anything like vo compared to narrator, then, as you said, there's no comparison. Can some low-vision users chime in here? Maybe us totals are missing something? On 11/29/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches more complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used Zoom for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't a comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's a fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know if the parallel for magnification is valid. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall meh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just don't know if it will happen. On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker dha...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Color schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit
Re: Nook accessibility is coming for the mac
Hi Karen, My connection just came because I sent a thank you note to accessibil...@book.com. No special connection here. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
If somebody has purchased ZoomText for Windows and they want to switch to the Mac, will they have to buy ZoomText again or would their serial number for the Windows version work? I'm asking since I'm an assistive technology instructor and somebody might ask me this in the future. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I too am a VoiceOver only user. I have spoken at length with friends of mine who are low vision users though. Not to stray to far off topic for this list, but by all accounts from people I know, magnification on any version of windows is hardly sufficient. As was stated earlier in this thread, comparing builtin windows magnification to a product like zoom text is like comparing narrator to jaws. As for zoom text coming to the mac, if it does nothing else, it will certainly be a familiar comfort for windows users who are considering switching. I say this only because someone has expressed to me their hesitancy to switch because they like the features of zoom text and don't think zoom on the mac gives them all thse features. The mac users who are experienced with zoom may not wish to even consider zoom text, but for new or those considering switching, it might be that last push for them to make the complete change. I can't debate the merrits of zoom on the mac because I can't see, just offering an opinion based on conversations with magnification users. - Original Message - From: dhacker To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:13PM Subject: Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon I don't think there's any reason to make that comparison, it's just not valid. Zoom on Mac works but it's not a sophisticated product. Voiceover works and it IS a sophisticated product. Ai Squared sees an opportunity to better Zoom related features. Also, the way Voiceover works may be fantastic (your mileage may vary) for blind users but for users who simplyneed reading support it's clear that there is an opportunity to build it. Put it this way, ZT Win does very well even though there is built in Zooming on Windows and sophisticated (JAWS, Windows Eyes) screen readers on the market as well as decent free ones (NVDA). On Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00:43 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: Yes, that's my point. If zoom on mac compared to zoom on windows is anything like vo compared to narrator, then, as you said, there's no comparison. Can some low-vision users chime in here? Maybe us totals are missing something? On 11/29/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches more complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used Zoom for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't a comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's a fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know if the parallel for magnification is valid. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall meh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just don't know if it will happen. On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker dha...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows counterparts. - Better font smoothing - Better tracking - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements - Color schemes - More efficient reading tools for VI users On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can also be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a huge gamble. Original message: Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version of ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + Enhancements only to be followed by reading functionality. You can apply for group membership here:
Re: ZoomText on the Mac Coming Soon
Serial numbers will not be cross-platform compatible. No pricing has been determined as of yet . . . On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:15:44 PM UTC-5, rmann05 wrote: If somebody has purchased ZoomText for Windows and they want to switch to the Mac, will they have to buy ZoomText again or would their serial number for the Windows version work? I'm asking since I'm an assistive technology instructor and somebody might ask me this in the future. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/wJvZ1NBAgJQJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps there is a way to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice long list. On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: If you don’t want to use the library, then you’re out of luck. I personally like the library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
vlc: adding to media library
Does anybody know if there's a keyboard shortcut or accessible method for adding to the media library in vlc. I am sure it's enabled because the window comes up when I open vlc and I've apparently accidentally added a couple of songs to it but I have no idea when or how that happened. I have no problem making playlists but I can't figure out how to add to the media library intentionally. I googled and found one article but the description didn't seem to translate to what I could do with voiceover. It must be possible since I did it unknowingly. Thanks for any tips. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
I would almost be willing to bet there's a way to change that, maybe something in the view options but I can't check it out since I don't have any tv shows. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps there is a way to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice long list. On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: If you don’t want to use the library, then you’re out of luck. I personally like the library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with
Re: itunes 11 is out
You can switch to list view. There are three radio buttons. One thing i do like is the ability to see shows in the cloud. On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps there is a way to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice long list. On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: If you don’t want to use the library, then you’re out of luck. I personally like the library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really rather not do that. Clutters up drive space. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
expense tracking software for the mac?
Hi all, I will soon have need of expense-tracking software and, of course, I'd like to keep it on the mac instead of needing Windows. I have zero experience in this field, but I was told to look into Quickbooks, I think it was. Is that accessible? If not, is there similar software that will work with Voiceover? Thanks. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: expense tracking software for the mac?
Hi: I use Checkbook Pro by Splasm Software. On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I will soon have need of expense-tracking software and, of course, I'd like to keep it on the mac instead of needing Windows. I have zero experience in this field, but I was told to look into Quickbooks, I think it was. Is that accessible? If not, is there similar software that will work with Voiceover? Thanks. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VO Hints
Hi, Can someone remind me how to turn on vo hints? Thanks, On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it will say Preview the song, etc. HTH, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO Hints
Go to your VoiceOver utility. It's under verbosity and the fifth tab called hints! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, Can someone remind me how to turn on vo hints? Thanks, On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it will say Preview the song, etc. HTH, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO Hints
Yes. Open voiceover utility with vo-f8. In categories go to verbbosity. Hints is the fifth and last tab; select it with vo-space. There's a checkbox for speaking the instructions for the item in the voiceover cursor; there's a pop-up for handling items with help tags, and there's a table to set the delay before a hint is spoken. I'm not sure you need both the checkbox and the popup depending on what you need this for. The checkbox can be very annoying but is great when the prompt is needed. The popup is helpful but you can also get that information by doing vo-shift-h on items with help tags and then you can go ahead and label items by using vo-slash. In fact, I just labelled a checkbox in vlc. So you can play with things and see what helps you most. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, Can someone remind me how to turn on vo hints? Thanks, On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it will say Preview the song, etc. HTH, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: VO Hints
Cool, I got it. On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: Go to your VoiceOver utility. It's under verbosity and the fifth tab called hints! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, Can someone remind me how to turn on vo hints? Thanks, On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it will say Preview the song, etc. HTH, Harry On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite all buttons. Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40. Open it, and then jump to the table of songs. You will see in the first column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song. Told you, am picky. On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of things. Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo. Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs! Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adding to media library
Can you use and manage an I O S device like an IPhone, or IPad with VLC? I highly doubt it. Just wondered if there is another sollution if for whatever totally bizarre reason, you'd not want to use ITunes? I know that to get apps/music/movies/TV shows/Books, etc. you definitely need ITunes, but I'm saying just to sync things back and forth, do you have to use ITunes? Chris. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: vlc: adding to media library Does anybody know if there's a keyboard shortcut or accessible method for adding to the media library in vlc. I am sure it's enabled because the window comes up when I open vlc and I've apparently accidentally added a couple of songs to it but I have no idea when or how that happened. I have no problem making playlists but I can't figure out how to add to the media library intentionally. I googled and found one article but the description didn't seem to translate to what I could do with voiceover. It must be possible since I did it unknowingly. Thanks for any tips. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 is out
I have a TV show, but that is just it, A! TV show. Not several, so testing that view feature isn't quite yet gonna be possible. When we say it groups TV shows, can you be a little more specific? Like... if I go into the grid view, under the TV shows source, is that where you're talking about? Or, does this also happen in list view? As for not having a menu bar in Windows, I don't wanna veer off topic too much being this is a mac based list, not a windows list, but generally speaking, what screen reader(s) did you try it with? If JFW, I wonder if maybe that could be due to the fact that the scripts that come with jaws aren't yet compatible with ITunes 11. I wonder if anyone on here uses Windows with N V D A and could test it. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out I would almost be willing to bet there's a way to change that, maybe something in the view options but I can't check it out since I don't have any tv shows. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps there is a way to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice long list. On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: If you don’t want to use the library, then you’re out of luck. I personally like the library. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes library? that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only allows you to cue up songs in the library though. On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do that. Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to read with jaws when you show it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to add files to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? Is this possible? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac user! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the Mac. As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what you've seen so far? I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and
