Re: Another great Apple call, + gmail on the web?
I usually find selecting HTML view works a lot better. It's definitely usable on the web but not in standard view. I believe this is in settings. On 13 May 2010, at 15:25, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone: So my gmail continues to have issues this morning. I called Apple tech support, and they were great as usual. Usually, I find I need to deal with a Senior advisor This was the case again this time, and he told me that his gmail's having issues as well, running slowly, doing strange things in Apple mail, etc. After messing around with my settings we concluded that the best way is to read mail on the website. He turned on VO, and showed me the basics (I'm confused by the conversation layout of the web based interface) the only thing we couldn't figure out is how to reply to messages on the web and how to read the complete message contents? Is there a way to disable the conversation feature and just read individual messages? I really hope Google resolves this soon! It does, indeed, seem to be a gmail issue, though. Thanks for any advice about using ths site to work with gMail for the timebeing! :) Olivia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: problem using Gmail
seems google's got a lot of issues at the moment. Mine's acting very strangely indeed. On 13 May 2010, at 15:38, Carolyn wrote: Strange, I'm finding stuff with my PC that Mac didn't show me. FREAKY!!! Carolyn - Original Message - From: Olivia Norman To: list voiceover Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:39 PM Subject: Re: problem using Gmail LOL! Mine is working, but not correctly. I'm now seeing messages from earlier today that I've never seen before, a friend sent me a message that I missed completely, and the iMap isn't syncing correctly between my devices. I have never experienced these issues with Gmail before. It is very frustrating! Olivia On May 12, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Richard Ring wrote: I have to admit it seems rather slow, but my gmail is working, or else this message wouldn't be received. On May 12, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: This is the worst possible time Gmail could have chosen to do this! Is there any work around anyone can suggest? I am literally waiting for an email that could drastically change my life for the better, and it's imperative that I get and respond to it quickly! I'm glad to know this isn't just me, though. Olivia On May 12, 2010, at 2:03 PM, marie Howarth wrote: gmail imap has been acting rather strangely the past few days. I'm guessing its a problem with their server. Mine's been slow and takes at least 3 minutes on occasions to send a message and that to me sounds like a server issue rather anything you could do about it. On 12 May 2010, at 18:55, Olivia wrote: Hi Everyone: When I delete messages in gmail, they are now popping back up in my inbox. I get a message saying that reading data from the iMap server has failed. This is very annoying, and I need to fix it. I tried deleting and recreating my account, to no avail. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! Olivia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another great Apple call, + gmail on the web?
Pop3 is OK but it certainly is not ideal for those who need emails to be on cross devices. imap has saved my ass a few times when things have gone wrong and the email is still on the server. Until the past few days, however today is slightly better, imap has been working great. On 13 May 2010, at 17:45, Pete Nalda wrote: Olivia, Have you by any chance tried using POP3 instead of IMAP? I use POP3 and haven't had any trouble with my Gmail account using Apple Mail. I think you have to set POP3 in gmail's Pop and Forwarding Settings page. I've never used imap myself. On May 13, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Thank you so much! I actually googled this, but couldn't find any information. Olivia On May 13, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Gmail is having issues. You can read more about on Google's web app status page here: May 12 reports http://www.google.com/appsstatus#rm=1di=1ddo=1hl=en May 11 reports http://www.google.com/appsstatus#rm=1di=1ddo=2hl=en CB Olivia Norman wrote: Hmmm you mean basic HTML? Any way to disable this conversation thing and just see individual messages? I can't tell who sent what. On May 13, 2010, at 11:51 AM, marie Howarth wrote: I usually find selecting HTML view works a lot better. It's definitely usable on the web but not in standard view. I believe this is in settings. On 13 May 2010, at 15:25, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone: So my gmail continues to have issues this morning. I called Apple tech support, and they were great as usual. Usually, I find I need to deal with a Senior advisor This was the case again this time, and he told me that his gmail's having issues as well, running slowly, doing strange things in Apple mail, etc. After messing around with my settings we concluded that the best way is to read mail on the website. He turned on VO, and showed me the basics (I'm confused by the conversation layout of the web based interface) the only thing we couldn't figure out is how to reply to messages on the web and how to read the complete message contents? Is there a way to disable the conversation feature and just read individual messages? I really hope Google resolves this soon! It does, indeed, seem to be a gmail issue, though. Thanks for any advice about using ths site to work with gMail for the timebeing! :) Olivia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: where to start
Hi, Apple has a downloadable guide for the mac. http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/ http://maccessibility.net also is a good source for information. Hope this helps. :) On 13 May 2010, at 19:34, denise avant wrote: hello all, Except for the days when i used the versabraille, i've always used a dos or windows based computer. in those days, there was plenty of documentation supplied on tape, large print and braille. now that i am switching to the mac book pro, i want to know where i can find a clear and concise voiceover on the mac tutorial? thanks. I do plan to get the apple agreement whereby i can go to the store and take lessons. but in the meantime, where do i start? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: where to start
the danger of doing podcasts as in a how too by a beginner is that you may not quite know all of the answers that may solve some issues. the mac is a forever learning tool in my opinion. the guys over at blind cool tech are very experienced and some who have that much experience have a lot of the answers and that can be overwhelming. There are a lot of guides all around the web on various blogs and mac's inbuilt system is very sufficient for a beginner. One of the most important things to remember as a switcher is to put your windows days aside. Mac is its own platform and voice over its own screen reading software. the tutorial you get once you load up your mac is a very useful starting place. as I said earlier, maccessibility.net and another useful site is http://icanworkthisthing.com. I know a lot have struggled with the switching process but remember it is completely and utterly possible, I and others are proof of this. And most folks on here are very helpful if you have any questions. The audio stuff Apple provided on Leopard helped my switch to be very smooth. I listened to the audio before I put my hands on the mac and again when I got the mac. and I hadn't joined a mailing list for a few months until some questions I needed answering. Even now, others have more knowledge about some things while I find I can help others with certain issues. But it's only as hard as you make it for yourself. On 13 May 2010, at 20:30, Carolyn wrote: Sarah: I quite agree with you. I found them overwhelming, though these guys k ew very well whatthey were doing, I did not.grin I love your idea of the podcast by a beginner. But, I sure don't know the half of what you seem to:) I'll definitely check it out. Carolyn On May 13, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Those are good but they are more for the advanced user in my opinion. they are good though and I do listen to thise as well. On May 13, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I suggest listening to the Mac podcasts on www. blindcooltech.com On May 13, 2010, at 2:34 PM, denise avant wrote: hello all, Except for the days when i used the versabraille, i've always used a dos or windows based computer. in those days, there was plenty of documentation supplied on tape, large print and braille. now that i am switching to the mac book pro, i want to know where i can find a clear and concise voiceover on the mac tutorial? thanks. I do plan to get the apple agreement whereby i can go to the store and take lessons. but in the meantime, where do i start? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: http://www.solona.net/ mac support
I've still, even with following other's instructions never been able to get the terminal and solona thing to work together. I've stuck with the website. On 12 May 2010, at 12:23, Justin Thornton wrote: command shift f3 is the rong keystoke its command shift number 3 thanks On May 12, 2010, at 4:06 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I can help wiht the screen shot thing. Turn your screen to 100 percent and hit command shift f3 to take a screen shot. by default the screen shot will be on your desktop. Good luck. On May 12, 2010, at 1:04 AM, olivia norman wrote: I will check this out. I have never fully mastered how www.solona.net works on a mac correctly. How, for instance, do I take a screenshot? Also, where is your Maryland users group, and how can I get more information about it? Thanks! Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: theresa.f...@gmail.com and me had time to get together at our Southern Maryland Mac User's Group meeting earlier this week and try out her script for grabbing capttas from web pages and submitting them to solona.net. There is or will be a new release of the script available for download which fixes a couple bugs found as a result of our testing. I now have an account on last.fm I didn't have before as a result of that meeting. For the script to work Xcode built for i386 needs to be installed. Theresa really would appreciate both bug reports and progress reports from anyone who is using or has tried to use that script in the past and failed to get it working, those reports if sent were not received. Theresa does more of her work with Objective C and needs practice on apple scripting, so any help offered to her for improving her apple scripting abilities will be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MY FIRST POST TO THIS LIST.
Hi and welcome, The mac things I can help with. The date and time. go to voice over utility, vo-f8 and arrow down to commanders. VO right and select keyboard commander with VO -space. then VO right and check the check box to use keyboard commander and ensure by vo-right that use right option key is selected. Now hit right option key and T and this will announce date and time. This will only work if you are using snow leopard by the way. For messaging, if you are using protocols other than gmail or AIM, then you might want to opt for Adium. This is a multi-chat client and is free and works very well with voice over. The email situation is one I've heard of a lot on this list. The only thing I can think is your windows mailing client is downloading all of your emails from the server as iMap deletes in the client but keeps the messages on the server as back up. As for passwords, you should have an administrator's password but if you acquired the machine and you are uncertain of what that password might be, you might want to, if you can find it out as it is crucial for updating your mac. I know a few others would advise making a separate account from the admin one for your personal use and to do this you would go to system preferences, select accounts, and create new account and select all the appropriate fields. But I strongly would suggest you know the admin password first. I hope this helps you a little. On 12 May 2010, at 14:33, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Dear All. This is my first post to this list. I have acquired a Mack Book Pro which I've only had over a week. I'm using Voice over and Windows 7 with jaws in a virtual machine using fusion. I'm telling you all this so as you know my set up. I have various questions to put to you all so please forgive my long message. 1. I'd like to know how to map Voice over keys so that I can get the Mac Book Pro to tell me the date and time as I understand you can do this (the same principles to jaws). A step by step instruction would be appreciated. 2. I'd like to set up a password on my Mac Book pro so that all is confidential. 3. I'm looking for a plugin so that I can use I chat and let all my messenger contacts to communicate with me as I'd rather not open messenger as I prefer Voice Over as it's more responsive. Before anyone says I'm not window bashing as I'd like both to complement each other. I love my Mac though and I have been converted! I never thought i'd say this. I'm surfing the web, and using the mail and Skuype on this machine but wish to know, firstly, I deleted all my E-mails and am using Imap. However when logging in into a windows machine here at work, my E-mails are still there. Any ideas as to what may be causing the problems for all my E-mails to be shown still please? I'm having difficulty turning on and off the track pad commander so any help would be appreciated. I'd also like to know what people think of using the Garage Band application for podcasting as I've always used Gold wave so need to have something easy to do podcasts and so on. In due course i get the new Iphone so that I have a cool experience with both. Any help on all my questions would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype User ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adding a new group addressbook
This is a bug that's been reported to Apple, OK, good news, there's a work around. Check out this blog and I give instructions how to get around this problem in address book. http://blindbabbles.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/address-book-a-quick-start/ Hope this helps you :) On 12 May 2010, at 17:54, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi, Ok I'm having one of those days I'd rather forget, because I've done so many daft things on my machine. Can I blame the exams I've been grading? smile Anyways, I'm trying to add a new group in adddressbook. So I've done the following: 1. gone to the popup menu, and selected add new group. 2. tried to give it a name; 3. failed dismally. The problem seems to be that I can't edit the group name. Interestingly, when I go back to the groups table and interact, VO seems to be getting confused. It says it's highlighting row two, yet won't allow me to go to a different row. Suggestions welcome... I think I need more tea :-) Cheers Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adding a new group addressbook
or indeed on the maccessibility site below http://maccessibility.net/guides/mac-os-x-applications/address-book/quick-start-guide/ both the same article. :) Hope it helps On 12 May 2010, at 17:54, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi, Ok I'm having one of those days I'd rather forget, because I've done so many daft things on my machine. Can I blame the exams I've been grading? smile Anyways, I'm trying to add a new group in adddressbook. So I've done the following: 1. gone to the popup menu, and selected add new group. 2. tried to give it a name; 3. failed dismally. The problem seems to be that I can't edit the group name. Interestingly, when I go back to the groups table and interact, VO seems to be getting confused. It says it's highlighting row two, yet won't allow me to go to a different row. Suggestions welcome... I think I need more tea :-) Cheers Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adding a new group addressbook
oh I hadn't experienced that. Maybe you might want to report it. :) On 12 May 2010, at 18:24, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Nice workaround Marie Cheers !:) I presume the other part of this bug, namely where pressing the delete key delets the group rather than editing the name has also been reported to Apple? Dónal On 12 May 2010, at 18:17, marie Howarth wrote: This is a bug that's been reported to Apple, OK, good news, there's a work around. Check out this blog and I give instructions how to get around this problem in address book. http://blindbabbles.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/address-book-a-quick-start/ Hope this helps you :) On 12 May 2010, at 17:54, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi, Ok I'm having one of those days I'd rather forget, because I've done so many daft things on my machine. Can I blame the exams I've been grading? smile Anyways, I'm trying to add a new group in adddressbook. So I've done the following: 1. gone to the popup menu, and selected add new group. 2. tried to give it a name; 3. failed dismally. The problem seems to be that I can't edit the group name. Interestingly, when I go back to the groups table and interact, VO seems to be getting confused. It says it's highlighting row two, yet won't allow me to go to a different row. Suggestions welcome... I think I need more tea :-) Cheers Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: problem using Gmail
gmail imap has been acting rather strangely the past few days. I'm guessing its a problem with their server. Mine's been slow and takes at least 3 minutes on occasions to send a message and that to me sounds like a server issue rather anything you could do about it. On 12 May 2010, at 18:55, Olivia wrote: Hi Everyone: When I delete messages in gmail, they are now popping back up in my inbox. I get a message saying that reading data from the iMap server has failed. This is very annoying, and I need to fix it. I tried deleting and recreating my account, to no avail. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! Olivia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: continued Gmail issues
I really think it is a gmail issue as none of my messages seem to be going anywhere ffast. and they keep getting saved in drafts before they are sent. On 12 May 2010, at 20:03, Olivia wrote: Now, none of my messages are showing up, though they're still on the server. I'm awaiting an important email, and didn't need my gmail account to pick today to act up. All the deleted messages continue to come back, and the server and computer appear to be communicating very slowly. The messages are also appearing on my iPhone and iPad despite being deleted. Is this a gmail issue, or what? I would appreciate any suggestions! Thanks! Olivia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how to send link from itunes store
Hi christina, on the apps page, you'll see an action pop up box. vo-space and arrow down to copy link. hit vo-space or enter on the copy link and paste it wherever you want to send that app to a friend. On 12 May 2010, at 20:13, Christina wrote: Hello, I want to send a link to an app from itunes store to someone but I cannot figure out how.. . Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bookshare books and the Mac
on the bookshare file, hit vo-shift-M and highlight open with and select the archiver. I'm assuming. On 12 May 2010, at 20:36, Richard Ring wrote: Ok, I have downloaded this software. However, for the life of me, I can't figure out how to use it to extract a file. This can't be that hard, and I know it's me at fault. But if one of you kind people could assist, I would be extremely greatful. On May 12, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/theunarchiver.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Navigation in Preview
to use VO-A once moving away from the start of the document. Try interacting with the text. That helps in other apps for me. On 11 May 2010, at 15:02, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, folk, I'm not sure if I'm missing something fundamental here, but the only way I can read a document in Preview is to press VO-A to start, then when it reaches the end of the page, I press page-down and then space when it says next. When it reaches a subsequent page, I can only move to the text again by using VO-right-arrow to read. If I press VO-A again, it starts from the beginning of the document. Can someone point me to how I can read a document from start to finish, even if it is page-by-page? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off
it's quite a big risk for $30 though Nick. On 11 May 2010, at 14:21, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Not a lot of places do. Even if it isn't mentioned, it doesn't have to be in any release notes and, in some instances, the developer doesn't know. SO I wouldn't base my opinion on that. :) It may still be accessible. It's one of those trial and error situations. I have a lot of applications installed where the developer is surprised it's working that well. Regards, Nic On May 11, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: It also doesn't mention accessibility. :) On May 11, 2010, at 1:25 AM, william lomas wrote: shame can't try it first On May 11, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: that is cool Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
and if they haven't had that option, the PdF guide will help them along the way :) On 11 May 2010, at 16:00, Pete Nalda wrote: Ok. Yes I'll admit it was a Usability Study, and not a review. And I also agree that things could be changed to make it more usable to the masses, but, I think, also, that in this day and time, people are going to get a chance to experience some how it works information prior to sitting down with it. I also feel that there are very few products (especially computers) that are automatically useable out of the box without some form of study. That's why there are quick start guides and the like. Also, I think that the majority of iPad buyers will have had experience with another Apple product, thus allowing them the ability to figure out the interface. On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Pete, This is not a product review. It is a summary of an academic study. In the summary that you read, he isn't expressing his personal like or dislike for the iPad. His conclusion is based on the results of the testing of the people in his study. The way those tests work is they tell the person to do something, without telling them how, and they observe how the person tries to accomplish the task. How long it takes a person to accomplish a task, how many mistakes they make, and even things like their frustration level are logged. In user interface design, the goal is to design interfaces that work like people expect, not to train people to work a particular interface. Of course, nothing is always obvious to all people, but the goal is to make the operation as obvious to as many people as is possible. Some of this won't apply to blind people. VoiceOver gives blindies clues about what is clickable and what isn't. Sighted people don't have any automatic cues, like clickable things are circled or highlighted, though. As far as the buttons at the bottom, that might be obvious to you, but not necessarily obvious to a sighted person. In western language, flow starts at the top left, and continues down while scanning across each row. Even though sighted people can see an entire screen at once, they can't focus on all of it read it all at once. Since they're trained, through reading, to scan left to right, top to bottom, this is also the common pattern that they use to scan a screen like the iPad. Of course, any experienced iPad user will eventually learn to look to the bottom for buttons to switch between pages, but that is something that must be learned. The more obvious way to do it is to put tabs at the top of the window. A sighted person looking at cards in a card file, for example, will see labeled tabs sticking out of the top of the cards. That's why multi page dialog boxes on Windows and OSX display their dialogs this way. This whole left to right, top to bottom approach is also why the OSX menu bar is at the top of the screen, while the dock is at the bottom. Any user wondering where should I go next, or how do I get back to the screen that does that thing, will naturally start looking at the top of the screen. Beyond that, there are gesture reasons for the menu bar being up there, such as the mouse gesture for zipping to the top of the screen is very easy (just push the mouse away from you). By contrast, the dock, at the bottom, is the last thing they see. This is because you're likely to need to perform actions in the current program before you need to switch to another constantly. Also, the dock isn't extremely useful to sighted users, as most of them would just switch to another app by clicking a visible portion of one of the app's windows. Apple has very strong interface guidelines for designing desktop apps, but they aren't as strict, at least in that area, for mobile apps. So, he says that developers are left to their own ideas about how apps should work, and the result is that not everyone knows what to expect from app to app. Anyway, all that to say that this guy is an expert in user interface design, and his highly informed and tested conclusion is that better choices could have been made to make it so that the iPad's operation was more obvious to untrained people than it is now. Bryan On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the
Re: Ibis Reader: an accessible alternative eBook reader for the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad with some glitches
Thanks for this info Ester. On 10 May 2010, at 19:47, Esther wrote: Hi All, Here's an alternative, promising eBook reader for books in ePub format without DRM: Ibis Reader. It works with VoiceOver on the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad, and allows bookmarking but has some odd features in terms of navigation. You can read DRM-free ePub books either on your computer or mobile device, and keep them in sync. I'll excerpt the description from Wired's Gadget Lab article by Charlie Sorrel, Ibis Reader for iPhone: A Web App That Thinks It's a Native App: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/02/ibis-reader-for-iphone-a-web-app-that-thinks-its-a-native-app/ begin excerpt Ibis reader is an e-book reading application that does everything that you’d expect an iPhone e-reader to do, with one big difference: It doesn’t come from the App Store. The app runs on any iPhone or iPod Touch and offers full offline access to your library of books, and is as fast and responsive as a native iPhone application. It manages this through the magic of HTML5, which is supported by Mobile Safari and - crucially - offers offline storage for web-sites. To install Ibis you navigate to the page in Safari. You will be asked if you will grant the site 50MB of storage space. After agreeing, you hit the “+” button and add the app to the home-screen. Now, when you hit that button, you are launched directly into Ibis, not just a tab in Safari, and because it stores both itself and your downloaded books locally, it’ll even work with an iPod Touch out of Wi-Fi range. The controls are similar to Stanza or Kindle for iPhone: tap either side of the screen to flip pages and touch the center to access more settings. You can browse for public domain books from Feedbooks from within the app, and even add books from the URL of your choice. Anything downloaded is stored for you in a local library, and if you opt to sign up for an Ibis account, you can read, fully synced, across multiple platforms. Like Stanza and Apple’s upcoming iPad app, iBooks, Ibis uses the ePub standard format, and you can even upload these files to your account from your desktop web browser, from where they will automatically appear on your mobile device. And because Android uses Webkit for its browser, it too can install and use the app offline. I have been playing around with Ibis for a little while and it really does behave like a local application, although sometimes it is not quite as fast when flipping between different sections. In fact, there’s only one thing that really gives it away: scrolling is a lot slower. Whereas in a native app you can “throw” a page and it speedily scrolls up or down, the “elastic” holding the pages of web apps is a lot stronger. It’s not just Ibis. This is a problem with all non-native applications on the iPhone. As a full-featured e-reader, Ibis is surprisingly good. As a proof-of-concept for non-approved, non-App Store applications, it is straight-up amazing. end excerpt Additional Information and Some VoiceOver-Specific comments: 1. The web site to visit is: ibisreader.com If you visit this site from an iPhone or iPod Touch, the link to install comes up immediately. On an iPad, there will be a link to a version that is optimized for the iPad. In both cases, the + button is what VoiceOver reads out as the Utilities button in Safari. This is at the bottom center of the screen on the iPhone, and along the top menu bar on the iPad. The iPad-specific installation is a bit confusing because there is a graphic that is an arrow pointing to the button (that you won't be able to use), as well as the fact that VoiceOver announces the button as Utilities instead of +. Just ignore this part of the instructions, find the Utilities button, and double tap the Add to Home Screen button. I actually found it easier to navigate the iPhone/iPod Touch version of the app, since the links and buttons are laid out out to be close to each other. 2. When you reach the account page you can create your account by simply typing in an email address and password into the text fields. There are buttons just above the virtual keyboard for previous, next, autofill, and done that you can use to move focus to the next text field (e.g., type in your email address, then double tap the next button above the virtual keyboard to move to the password field, and either double tap the done button to dismiss the keyboard and access the page to double tap the OK button, or double tap the Go button at the bottom right of the keyboard). Alternatively, you can just double tap the text field for password and input -- the next, previous, and done buttons are easier to use on the iPad to move focus to fields. Using the Go button saves you having to double tap the OK button on the field -- login is immediate. 3. The top buttons on the home page are
Re: o.t, maybe. Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin for infringement of Nokia patents
I hate to tell you but I'm not from the US. I am highly aware of the popularity of nokias, seen as I live in Europe but it's a case of nokia is suing because they seem to think they can. Other manufacturers have no doubt used the patents that Apple are being accused of, GSM is used all over the world by many different manufacturers so Apple's merely an easy target at this present time. The old saying, sitting duck springs to mind. No one really believes nokia is scared but they are protecting their future interests. They obviously perceive Apple to be a threat otherwise the other manufacturers would be receiving a lawsuit also. it's called business. On 9 May 2010, at 16:29, Bryan Smart wrote: I know we love our iPhones here, but to act like Nokia is terrified and on the ropes is silly. Do you know that 2 out of every 5 smartphones in the world are Nokias. Their 40% market share is mamoth when compared to Apple's 17%. BlackBerries stil out-sell iPhones. It's great that Apple sold nearly 9,000,000 iPhones last quarter, but, in the same time, Nokia sold 21,000,000. As big as the iPhone is here in the US, I think that a lot of people forget just how popular Nokia is nearly everywhere else in the world. These patent battles happen all of the time. Qualcom was the big focus a few years ago. Nokia and Apple will maneuver for a while, they'll come to some agreement that I won't sue you for this patent if you don't sue me for that one, and then they'll both try to take a swing at RIM. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: o.t, maybe. Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin for infringement of Nokia patents and that is the point. Nokia's suffering so what do they do, hit the company that potentially has the most money. On 9 May 2010, at 11:49, Kaare Dehard wrote: sounds to me like they are timing this right, results are down for Nokia right now and they're probably trying to do this to cut some losses witha fat lisencing contract. On 2010-05-08, at 11:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: agreed. I do wonder what will come out of it though? I hoep nokia looses big time On May 8, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Yet another boring lawsuit. I really think this type of thing is just to see who can score browny points against another company; it's not really in the interest of consumers, despite what nokia will tell you. On 08/05/2010, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: NOKIA - Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin for infringement of Nokia patents NOKIA Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin for infringement of Nokia patents Espoo, Finland - Nokia announced that it has today filed a complaint against Apple with the Federal District Court in the Western District of Wisconsin, alleging that Apple iPhone and iPad 3G products infringe five important Nokia patents. The patents in question relate to technologies for enhanced speech and data transmission, using positioning data in applications and innovations in antenna configurations that improve performance and save space, allowing smaller and more compact devices. These patented innovations are important to Nokia's success as they allow improved product performance and design. Nokia has been the leading developer of many key technologies in mobile devices said Paul Melin, General Manager, Patent Licensing at Nokia. We have taken this step to protect the results of our pioneering development and to put an end to continued unlawful use of Nokia's innovation. During the last two decades, Nokia has invested approximately EUR 40 billion in research and development and built one of the wireless industry's strongest and broadest IPR portfolios, with over 11,000 patent families. Nokia is a world leader in the development of handheld device and mobile communications technologies, which is also demonstrated by Nokia's strong patent portfolio. About Nokia At Nokia, we are committed to connecting people. We combine advanced technology with personalized services that enable people to stay close to what matters to them. Every day, more than 1.2 billion people connect to one another with a Nokia device - from mobile phones to advanced smartphones and high-performance mobile computers. Today, Nokia is integrating its devices with innovative services through Ovi (www.ovi.com), including music, maps, apps, email and more. Nokia's NAVTEQ is a leader in comprehensive digital mapping and navigation services, while Nokia Siemens Networks provides equipment, services and solutions for communications networks globally. FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS It should be noted that certain statements herein which are not historical facts are forward-looking
Re: iMail
Hi, enter the address chooser, VO down to the person's name, hit enter and then stop interacting, vo back to the TO or CC or BCC buttons and vo-space. This should work. On 9 May 2010, at 18:11, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi Sarah: I typed in the name of the Contact, IE Sarah Smith. Pressed enter, went to send, I was informed it as not a valid email address. I started over, went to the tool bar, choose the address button, interacted with the table, arrowed to the person's name, and I've tried enter, clicking with mouse, context menu, etc. When I go back to the to button, CC, or BCC button, they are dimmed. Any thoughts? The user guide on iMail doesn't give any suggestions. Thanks, Sarai On May 8, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Try hitting enter when you here the name you want and it should address correctly. S On May 8, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Yeah, in theory, you are right. But when I do the typing of the name, I receive a message saying the email is not addressed correctly when sending it. I've confirmed the contacts are in my address book. On May 8, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Kieren wrote: Quite simple really either a) just start typing the name of the person you want in the to field and it should do auto complete if the names are in your address book. or b) if you open the addresses dialog select all the names you want then hit the To:, Cc:, or Bcc: button in the toolbar of that window and the names will be added to the appropriate field. Simple really HTH Kieren On May 9, 4:38 am, Sarai Bucciarelli bucc7...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi: I have imported my Outlook contacts in to the address book. When I go to send a message, choose to field, go to look up an address, I can see my contacts, but cannot choose their Email addresses. I have preferences set to fill lly type in the address once, it will not work. How do I type in someone's name, and get their Email address to go in the to field? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why can't I copy anything to my external hard drive it's not even half full?
it's the way a drive is formatted. On 9 May 2010, at 18:20, Courtney Curran wrote: I did use it with Windows, so I don't know what NDFS is. Where can this software be purchased? On 09/05/2010, at 1:31 in the morning, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Here's a thought, could this harddrive possibly be formatted in nTFS? If so, that's probably why. I believe there is software you can get, so that you'll be able to write to NTFS formatted drives. On May 8, 2010, at 11:58 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there is some kind of trick for copying something from the hard drive of my Mack to my external one with mixed content. I tried to do command-v, but it didn't work. It's not the hard drive I use to do my time machine backups on. Any help would be appreciated. Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Here is a new iPad VoiceOver bug
what speaker issue? I'm not noticing anything with my iPhone speaker. On 9 May 2010, at 18:34, Scott Howell wrote: Bryan, Do not wait, alert Apple to the issue if you do not think you can get to Best Buy before the end of the return date window. They may (if possible for you) direct you to an APple store or extend your return date, so you can verify the issue. The speaker issue sounds like what is possibly going on with the iPhone and the hope is this will be addressed in the next version. Perhaps setting VoiceOver up to be toggled on/off with a triple click of the home key, and turn it off to see if this helps with that issue. I would be curious if this does or not. Good luck, On May 9, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: I purchased directly from Apple. I'm really worried about their super short 14 day return period, which is up for me this week. I feel like I must make a move fast. Maybe I'll head back over to Best Buy and check out one of theirs again. In Settings, when I tap a button on the left, the first swipe is almost always rejected. However, I noticed that if I make a huge side-to-side screen swipe as my first swipe, it is recognized, but not like I'd expect. Sometimes, it swipes, and I hear the tone indicating that I've moved to another control group (the group on the right). Other times, focus will actually advance to the next button in the left column. In the first case, the iPad might be interpreting the swipe as a touch on the right side of the screen, or it might be confused and think that my one quickly moving finger is a four-finger-swipe? The only point of this repro is that it is a way that I can consistently show that something is wrong. The odd things that happen in other apps aren't as predictable. Anyway, thanks everyone for checking. It has got to be this particular iPad, or my finger, or smething unique to my situation, at least for the swiping bit. What about the constantly running speaker? Anyone have that going on? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here is a new iPad VoiceOver bug Bryan, Why not go back to where you purchase the iPad and see if you can perform the same tests on another unit. If there is an issue, they will of course replace it. In fact it would be interesting if you could get your hands on both models to try this experiment, but I really think the software versions will be the same, but still something to try. It would be pretty curious if they are slightly different software revisions. On May 9, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: It is possible. There could be some small OS revision between the Wi-Fi and 3G that introduced a problem. It is, like you say also possible that something might be a bit electronically off with my touch screen. This is the only iPad that I've ever used, other than a brief play with one at a Best Buy, so I don't know if the behavior of mine is atypical or not. It is frustrating, though. If I knew that I could swap it to resolve the problem, that would work. If I knew it was just a software problem that could be resolved soon, that might be fine, also. I just don't know. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here is a new iPad VoiceOver bug Maybe we haven't heard about it because he is using the 3g model of the iPad. Every voiceover related review and podcast I have come across had featured the wifi model. So, Maybe the behavior Bryan is experiencing is only on the 3g model. Or it could just be his model imparticular. On May 9, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Bryan, Nice to know your the only one. :) So, have you brought your concerns to Apple's attention? The issue with the words being cut off is not a result of the iPad implementation. This is very apparent on the iPhone and I am quite certain the iPod Touch as well. It is an issue with the speech and I have filed this issue quite a while back and hope it will be addressed in the next version. I will be curious if others have experienced your issue and I find it hard to believe that if this is a bug, that no one else would have mentioned it. So, hopefully if it is a bug, people report it and I am sure Apple did not rush the product to market. You know that most products pushed out the door will have some issues that may not have been found. However, you are correct, I have not read anything about what your experiencing, which is interesting. On May 8, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: OK, those of you with iPads, check this
Re: iMail
Then maybe the emails are not being recognised? On 9 May 2010, at 18:47, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi Marie: I did it, the problem is the to, cc, and bcc buttons are dimmed when I return to them after choosin the contact. On May 9, 2010, at 12:22 PM, marie Howarth wrote: Hi, enter the address chooser, VO down to the person's name, hit enter and then stop interacting, vo back to the TO or CC or BCC buttons and vo-space. This should work. On 9 May 2010, at 18:11, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi Sarah: I typed in the name of the Contact, IE Sarah Smith. Pressed enter, went to send, I was informed it as not a valid email address. I started over, went to the tool bar, choose the address button, interacted with the table, arrowed to the person's name, and I've tried enter, clicking with mouse, context menu, etc. When I go back to the to button, CC, or BCC button, they are dimmed. Any thoughts? The user guide on iMail doesn't give any suggestions. Thanks, Sarai On May 8, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Try hitting enter when you here the name you want and it should address correctly. S On May 8, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Yeah, in theory, you are right. But when I do the typing of the name, I receive a message saying the email is not addressed correctly when sending it. I've confirmed the contacts are in my address book. On May 8, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Kieren wrote: Quite simple really either a) just start typing the name of the person you want in the to field and it should do auto complete if the names are in your address book. or b) if you open the addresses dialog select all the names you want then hit the To:, Cc:, or Bcc: button in the toolbar of that window and the names will be added to the appropriate field. Simple really HTH Kieren On May 9, 4:38 am, Sarai Bucciarelli bucc7...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi: I have imported my Outlook contacts in to the address book. When I go to send a message, choose to field, go to look up an address, I can see my contacts, but cannot choose their Email addresses. I have preferences set to fill lly type in the address once, it will not work. How do I type in someone's name, and get their Email address to go in the to field? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group
Re: Here is a new iPad VoiceOver bug
the speaker remaining active? hmm. I prob get a day with regular use out of my iPhone, I don't consider that good battery life but I'm uncertain what the speaker remaining active is about. My phone works as I would expect it too. :) On 9 May 2010, at 19:36, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Marie, Not everyone has this problem with the iPhone. If you're one of the people like me who gets good battery life out of your iPhone, you almost certainly haven't got the problem of the speaker remaining active. Cheers, Anne On May 9, 2010, at 7:58 PM, marie Howarth wrote: what speaker issue? I'm not noticing anything with my iPhone speaker. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple mail issue
Depends, are you using imap or pop3? On 9 May 2010, at 00:35, Cody wrote: This isn't much of a VO issue but it seems that after I check my mail in apple mail and then reboot back into windows or check my mail on another window machine, all of my mail that I've deleted from apple mail comes back. Why is this? does it leave it on the server? Thanks Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice over feature
Maybe drop Apple accessibility a note. :) On 9 May 2010, at 01:02, Edward wrote: Hello all, I think implementing a full fledged hotspot manager that will enable a user to configure hotspots and assign different types of actions associated for a particular hotspot would be a very powerful voice over tool. Thanks Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple mail issue
I'm no expert but iMap saves your mail to the server until you delete it. That's the only thing I can maybe think. Maybe your windows one downloads your server messages? On 9 May 2010, at 01:01, Cody wrote: It's pop I sware, but then again I use apple mails default settings once I type in my email address it takes care of the restso it might be imap - Original Message - From: marie Howarth To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:58 PM Subject: Re: apple mail issue Depends, are you using imap or pop3? On 9 May 2010, at 00:35, Cody wrote: This isn't much of a VO issue but it seems that after I check my mail in apple mail and then reboot back into windows or check my mail on another window machine, all of my mail that I've deleted from apple mail comes back. Why is this? does it leave it on the server? Thanks Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Apple announces International date for iPad
Hi, Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US now can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family on 28TH May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple store for pricing details. From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple announces International date for iPad
what country are you in William? I have the UK prices. wifi 16 £429 wifi 32 £499 Wifi 64 £599 3G 16 £529 3G 32 £599 3G 64 £699 all prices are including VAT http://www.macworld.com/article/151113/2010/05/ipad_international.html?lsrc=rss_main On 7 May 2010, at 15:57, william lomas wrote: can't find prices anywhere On 7 May 2010, at 15:49, marie Howarth wrote: Hi, Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US now can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family on 28TH May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple store for pricing details. From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple announces International date for iPad
Not so bad actually Olivia. Take away VAT and we're probably paying around the same as the guys across the pond. On 7 May 2010, at 16:56, Olivia Norman wrote: I'm curious, how do these compair to US prices? Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On May 7, 2010, at 11:22 AM, marie Howarth wrote: what country are you in William? I have the UK prices. wifi 16 £429 wifi 32 £499 Wifi 64 £599 3G 16 £529 3G 32 £599 3G 64 £699 all prices are including VAT http://www.macworld.com/article/151113/2010/05/ipad_international.html?lsrc=rss_main On 7 May 2010, at 15:57, william lomas wrote: can't find prices anywhere On 7 May 2010, at 15:49, marie Howarth wrote: Hi, Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US now can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family on 28TH May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple store for pricing details. From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: making dvd player in the newest incarnation of the mackbook pro region free
This is very possible. I've done it for ages. Download VLC, it's free and open source, pretty usable too. then go to system prefs and where it says CdS/DVDs open that and next to when you insert a video dvd in the pop up hit ignore. Now open VLC to play your DVDs. still legal and you won't use up your region switching on the mac drive. :) On 7 May 2010, at 17:57, Chris Blouch wrote: You'll have to rip the DVD first and then use something like DVDBackup 1.3 which will remove region encoding, macrovision and encryption. The program is very old but still launches and the UI appeared to be accessible. Give it a try. I had to google around a bit to find a download link. Here was one: http://mac.majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=4900file=9evp=8e48358f3bc7daf2ddd1a4a145cf6c49 CB Bryan Smart wrote: Sorry, but that isn't possible, by design. You're supposed to be locked to one region. That's so, for example, that Japanese publishers can overcharge people in the U. S. for imported DVDs, and so that Hollywood can make Europeans wait months after a U. S. release before they can buy a playable movie. That's the whole point of region control, so they can control what each region can see, when they can see it, and how much they'll pay to see it. If you're not happy about that situation, may I suggest UTorrent? Hey, it isn't copyright infringement if you already own it. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ Nezumi Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:16 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: making dvd player in the newest incarnation of the mackbook pro region free hi all i was wondering does anyone have any advice on how to make my dvd player region free? i have both dvds from the UK and US and at the moment i can't watch say for example dvds from the UK because my drive region has to be changed but i can only do this a number of times i would be vary greatful if anyone has any advice thanks Liam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.
I may be wrong but on the iPhone if you hold the power button it will bring up the power options. To lock the iPhone you just press the power button once and it locks. I'm assuming, possibly incorrectly the same is true on the iPad. No holding, just press the power button. On 8 May 2010, at 00:03, Charlie Doremus wrote: Pete, If you happen to tap the iPad screen once you have pressed and held the power button your iPod will shut down. So the trick is not to tap once you start your music. Sent from the iPad I wish I had On May 7, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, but how come when I pushed the power button the music would stop? Was I pushing it too long? And yeah I know a case would prevent anything touching the screen, but my backpack has a suspended padded compartment so I was just going to put it in there, but hopefully while having a podcast or music going. I also have a sling with suspended padding as well. On May 7, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote: Two points! First you can lock the ipad screen by pressing the power button. Also using a case would cover the screen completely preventing any sort of screen presses. Sent from the iPad I wish I had On May 7, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses. The screen reacts to your skin not pressure. So having it in a big should be fine. On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this list. Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a more Zoomable media Player/Content viewer/creator. That said, can one have this thing in a bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast? What about accidental screen presses? I tried activating the screen lock switch at the store, but that's only for locking the screen from being rotated. I thought the power button would freeze the controls, but that shuts off everything and puts it to sleep. I thought with an iPad I could leave my ipod at home and just use the iPad to listen to music. Is this not possible in transit? What about with a case? I think a dedicated hold button would be really nice, but I'm guessing that would be asking too much as they'd have to redesign the hardware. I'm really embarrassed to ask this stuff, as I'm applying at the Apple store and this should be something I'd know. TIA. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A USB device is drawing too much power
I had the same issue for a long time. If your headset is old, it's likely the drivers are not working well with your system. Simple solution, get a new headset. On 6 May 2010, at 22:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So, I'm looking for someone here who knows a lot about hardware, specifically on the Mac-side and someone who knows a lot in particular about USB-devices. Oh, and electricity, perhaps. Here's the deal. I've got a Skype Wireless Freetalk Headset, the old model. I've been using it for a while with no issues at all. Eventually, my Mac would disable the device because it said it was drawing too much power and had to be disabled. The headset setup consist of a round-shaped small box with one button to turn off the receiver completely, and to pair it properly to the receiver and the headset. On this box there are two buttons, one extending to the plug of a USB and the other extending to a small, round plug which plugs into the right side of the headset for charging. Both of these aforementioned wires both extend away from the round box. When I get the message above in a dialog box, the headset promptly turns off because there is no signal being received from the USB port as it becomes disabled, and when touching the wire charging the headset, it becomes boiling hot. The USB wire feels fine, but all the way from the point from which the wire to the charger extends, to the plug that goes into the headset for charging, becomes incredibly hot and almost impossible to touch. My question to those knowing about this type of issue is this: Why would this happen after a year or so of using this headset just fine? Is it because the wire is broken? If that is the case, why could I use it for a couple of hours prior to this happening today, regardless of twisted the wire became? Thanks, and I'd be grateful for any advice. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari question
You need to clear the cash. either command-option-E or go to Safaris menu and also you need to clear cookies. hit CMD-comma and go to security and delete cookies. HTH On 5 May 2010, at 18:38, May McDonald wrote: Ok, here's another question. How do I get safari to clear all the user names and passwords that I have stored in it. There's a site that I have access to that logs me in automatically and I don't want it to do that any longer. Please help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bringing Alison On Board My MacBookPro
Do you have the link for the trial Mark? On 4 May 2010, at 11:00, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, In my endeavor to bring a fine female voice to my forlorn MacBookPro, I downloaded a trial version of Alison, by Cepstral Voices. As probably all of you know, Cepstral is the company that developed our beloved Apple Alex. Alison is an absolutely lovely voice. Now, I installed the trial version and, for the life of me, cannot get her to appear in the VoiceOver Utility despite reading the documentation that states that she is completely compatible with Snow Leopard. All I can seem to accomplish is to find her in System Preferences and only then can I play a sample of her voice. Cepstral states that the trial version should work fine even without purchasing a license, for a while. I have no problem purchasing a license but I want to make sure that she is going to work with my system. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Mark ANNOUNCING THE SECRET LIFE OF MARK MARCUS LIVE CALL-IN TALK SHOW!!! In each episode, join Mark, along with invited guests, as he explores the world in which we live and the world which lives within us. As you listen or participate in a family-friendly, no-holds-barred discussion, you will find yourself being drawn deeper and deeper into the mystery, majesty, and wonder that is The Secret Life of Mark Marcus. You can listen and participate via telephone, an Internet-enabled computer, or Smartphone application. No need to sign up on a website or be required to enter any pin codes. Just join in and let your voice be heard around the world. To listen or participate via phone just dial (724-898-1193 during the show's scheduled time. That's all there is to it. Sign Up To Receive Text-Message Alerts When The Show Is Live!! Can't listen live? No problem, download/listen to past episodes on demand, at your convenience. For more information including an audio PROMO for the next scheduled episode, show times, the ability to listen or participate via computer and more, go to: http://candleshore.com/secrets Let's Make A Joyful Noise, Together!!! Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. He who stands on tiptoe doesn't stand firm. She who rushes ahead doesn't go far. He who tries to shine dims his own light. She who defines herself can't know who she really is. He who has power over others can't empower himself. She who clings to her work will create nothing that endures. (Lao Tzu) For infinite knowledge, go to: candleshoreblog.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bringing Alison On Board My MacBookPro
Hi mark, I've installed Alison and callie as trial versions and also cannot get them to show up in voice over. Hope someone has a tip here. I do like having the alternatives and the choice to buy single voices. Thanks On 4 May 2010, at 11:34, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Marie, Yes, Click Here to go to the Cepstral site. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bringing Alison On Board My MacBookPro Do you have the link for the trial Mark? On 4 May 2010, at 11:00, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, In my endeavor to bring a fine female voice to my forlorn MacBookPro, I downloaded a trial version of Alison, by Cepstral Voices. As probably all of you know, Cepstral is the company that developed our beloved Apple Alex. Alison is an absolutely lovely voice. Now, I installed the trial version and, for the life of me, cannot get her to appear in the VoiceOver Utility despite reading the documentation that states that she is completely compatible with Snow Leopard. All I can seem to accomplish is to find her in System Preferences and only then can I play a sample of her voice. Cepstral states that the trial version should work fine even without purchasing a license, for a while. I have no problem purchasing a license but I want to make sure that she is going to work with my system. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Mark ANNOUNCING THE SECRET LIFE OF MARK MARCUS LIVE CALL-IN TALK SHOW!!! In each episode, join Mark, along with invited guests, as he explores the world in which we live and the world which lives within us. As you listen or participate in a family-friendly, no-holds-barred discussion, you will find yourself being drawn deeper and deeper into the mystery, majesty, and wonder that is The Secret Life of Mark Marcus. You can listen and participate via telephone, an Internet-enabled computer, or Smartphone application. No need to sign up on a website or be required to enter any pin codes. Just join in and let your voice be heard around the world. To listen or participate via phone just dial (724-898-1193 during the show's scheduled time. That's all there is to it. Sign Up To Receive Text-Message Alerts When The Show Is Live!! Can't listen live? No problem, download/listen to past episodes on demand, at your convenience. For more information including an audio PROMO for the next scheduled episode, show times, the ability to listen or participate via computer and more, go to: http://candleshore.com/secrets Let's Make A Joyful Noise, Together!!! Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. He who stands on tiptoe doesn't stand firm. She who rushes ahead doesn't go far. He who tries to shine dims his own light. She who defines herself can't know who she really is. He who has power over others can't empower himself. She who clings to her work will create nothing that endures. (Lao Tzu) For infinite knowledge, go to: candleshoreblog.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bringing Alison On Board My MacBookPro
I'm really confused. Even apple endorse them on the voice over indepth page. I've installed them, they're sitting in system prefs but not showing up in voice over whatsoever and they don't work in system voice either. I can see them but it also tells me every time I hit cepstral in system prefs, that it needs to relaunch system prefs to view cepstral. Anyone know the email to this company. I'd like to buy them but only if they work. On 4 May 2010, at 13:53, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, My installation shows they're installed today, and I've had them for a bit. They don't show up in Speech preferences, either, but it says 28 in the table which I will assume is 28 days until they run out? As far as I know, there should be nothing to consider when installing voices compatible with VoiceOver. They should in theory just work, but that's not the case. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 4, 2010, at 2:35 PM, marie Howarth wrote: Hi mark, I've installed Alison and callie as trial versions and also cannot get them to show up in voice over. Hope someone has a tip here. I do like having the alternatives and the choice to buy single voices. Thanks On 4 May 2010, at 11:34, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Marie, Yes, Click Here to go to the Cepstral site. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bringing Alison On Board My MacBookPro Do you have the link for the trial Mark? On 4 May 2010, at 11:00, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, In my endeavor to bring a fine female voice to my forlorn MacBookPro, I downloaded a trial version of Alison, by Cepstral Voices. As probably all of you know, Cepstral is the company that developed our beloved Apple Alex. Alison is an absolutely lovely voice. Now, I installed the trial version and, for the life of me, cannot get her to appear in the VoiceOver Utility despite reading the documentation that states that she is completely compatible with Snow Leopard. All I can seem to accomplish is to find her in System Preferences and only then can I play a sample of her voice. Cepstral states that the trial version should work fine even without purchasing a license, for a while. I have no problem purchasing a license but I want to make sure that she is going to work with my system. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Mark ANNOUNCING THE SECRET LIFE OF MARK MARCUS LIVE CALL-IN TALK SHOW!!! In each episode, join Mark, along with invited guests, as he explores the world in which we live and the world which lives within us. As you listen or participate in a family-friendly, no-holds-barred discussion, you will find yourself being drawn deeper and deeper into the mystery, majesty, and wonder that is The Secret Life of Mark Marcus. You can listen and participate via telephone, an Internet-enabled computer, or Smartphone application. No need to sign up on a website or be required to enter any pin codes. Just join in and let your voice be heard around the world. To listen or participate via phone just dial (724-898-1193 during the show's scheduled time. That's all there is to it. Sign Up To Receive Text-Message Alerts When The Show Is Live!! Can't listen live? No problem, download/listen to past episodes on demand, at your convenience. For more information including an audio PROMO for the next scheduled episode, show times, the ability to listen or participate via computer and more, go to: http://candleshore.com/secrets Let's Make A Joyful Noise, Together!!! Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. He who stands on tiptoe doesn't stand firm. She who rushes ahead doesn't go far. He who tries to shine dims his own light. She who defines herself can't know who she really is. He who has power over others can't empower himself. She who clings to her work will create nothing that endures. (Lao Tzu) For infinite knowledge, go to: candleshoreblog.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: Bringing Alison On Board My MacBookPro
OK, I got them to work, they kept repeating they needed to be registered. I had to download the beta for snow leopard. However, I'm sad to report that it made voice over freeze, jump all over the place and make Alex sound like he was choking when I had one of the cepstral voices as the content voice or indeed the default. Not sure what to say but I sure won't be spending any denero until this is addressed. On 4 May 2010, at 15:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yes, the documentation says so. In fact, it says that is one of the ways to get their voices to work. And the irony is that they do not. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 4, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Does Cepstryl say specifically that VoiceOver can plug these voices in and use them as part of the screenreader? If not, have you tried using them in Growl, at least? I remember Callie and Amy and a few others were quite high quality, but slowed down my older PC laptop something fierce, so I gave up on them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bringing Alison On Board My MacBookPro
yeah Mark, they are. You need to install the 5.1 version. On 4 May 2010, at 16:14, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Are they supported in Leopard, without the Snow? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Working with iPhoto
I tend to name my files before importing them to iPhoto. I've not used the facebook export tool and the majority seems off limits to us I guess because of the images. I've made several slide shows but I organise my pictures in folders outside of iPhoto and then import them. Usually having a nice sighted friend to help me label them in finder. Sorry, maybe someone else has had more luck. On 4 May 2010, at 16:43, olivia norman wrote: Has anyone had any success with iPhoto and voiceover? I have five photos, the table with events, faces, places, photos, etc, but when I try and get things like the file names of photos, or create albums, I am unable to do this. When I interact with the scrol area, where I assume the pictures are displayed, I'm told by Voiceover that it's empty. I am starting guide dog training in a few weeks, and would like an easy way to publish photos to facebook, send them to friends and family, and post them online. iPhoto offers these options, but appears to be inaccessible with VO, unless I'm missing something obvious? I would greatly appreciate any pointers. Thanks, Olivia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Firefox on the Mac
It's one of those, we wait and see things I believe. I heard something was meant to happen this year but we'll see. On 4 May 2010, at 20:56, Chris Blouch wrote: Hmm. The bug notes this is for PowerPC OSX. Is there one for Intel? So in 2006 Håkan Waara was granted $32,500 to make accessibility improvements for Firefox, and nothing since. http://www.mozilla.org/grants/2006/ CB Sean Tikkun wrote: Voting on this bug will increase it's importance and urgency. I've put the first one in! - Sean Tikkun On May 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, William Windels wrote: Hello all, about firefox, someone has posted a bugreport on bugzilla about firefox 3.6.3 and the missing support for voiceover. They closed the bug very fast because it was already reported. So, I don't think that it makes sense to posts more bugreports. I think , it should be better to count up my bugreport. The site of bugzilla is not that accessible so, I think, you need sighted assistance to do this. I don't want to say at all that safari and vo are not working well but, some websites work bad or not with other browsers than e.g. firebox.. so, here is the link and info: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560136 --- Comment #1 from Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ) marco.z...@googlemail.com 2010-04-19 00:35:01 PDT --- We are aware that Firefox isn't currently accessible on Mac OS X yet. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 336306 *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO's stuck on speech off
That is strange as cmd-f5 is always meant to turn VO on or off, or using the Fn-cmd-f5 on macbooks not using function keys with VO. Maybe having a look in system prefs in the universal access but this is a new one to me. Might be an idea to reset the pram, to do this shut the computer off, hit the power button and get ready to press the following key combination as soon as you hear the start up chimes, command-option-p-r and hold these keys down until you hear the chime again. If this doesn't work maybe it's a reinstall job, but I'm sure other listers may have some ideas. The link to Apple's page on how to reset pram is http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379 HTH On 4 May 2010, at 22:50, Hypnotic Consulting wrote: Hey folks, My wifes broken something and now VO won't really talk. Here's what's happening. I turn VO on, and he then starts and says speech off. I've restarted and he's still doing the same thing. My wife said all she did was install office. Any ideas? Jorge -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Amazon.com on the Mack?
It depends where you are. If you're in your shopping basket, it's definitely there. My bank account can vouch for that. Maybe try using item chooser, vo-I. I think it could be a link now I think about it. but it's definitely there. On 3 May 2010, at 04:27, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I was wondering how to get to the proceed to checkout button on Amazon.com with the Mack? Is it different than other platforms, or am I not seeing it. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
never had that happen. On 3 May 2010, at 04:19, Pete Nalda wrote: Good question! But it took me a restart to get my audio back after that, so it wasn't just VoiceOver! Youtube's html5 killed *all* of my audio in my Macbook pro. On May 2, 2010, at 10:11 PM, olivia norman wrote: Where's Steve's letter? Olivia On May 2, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Ok, here's some irony, tried the html5 version of youtube and now voiceover is totally not working. all I hear from my speakers is popping! Ouch! On May 2, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote: Hi Carlene. Go to http://www.youtube.com/html5. Their html5 player is still in beta, so it's something you must opt in to. Darcy On 2010-05-02, at 7:14 PM, carlene knight wrote: Where can I find a site with HtML 5? You say that youtube is using it but where so that I can check it out? This is actually exciting as I didn't realize that HTML5 was in use much yet. On May 2, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Saying that, HTML5 is really taking the place of Flash. It just seems to be aged technology, and people don't want a processor pig. They want to be able to access the same content on the iPhone, and Flash isn't going to be on there partly due to security problems and processor issues. So, HTML5 would be the ideal solution. I think it's safe to say that The Great Flash War of 2010 is hardly over. Of course, all this is just my opinion. To me, HTML5 already takes over all the functions Flash used to perform for me, and I actually have it disabled. I watch video a lot, and I have never needed it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's a processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to the wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work any and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to believe. Just my thoughts. On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: Hello I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo better with other formats of streaming video? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277 My Twitter http://twitter.com/chojiro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries
Re: New to mac
Ah, but you can use the numpad as cursor keys Simon. check out the numpad commander in vo utility, vo-f8. :) On 3 May 2010, at 09:37, Simon Fogarty wrote: And that's something I find myself doing all the time. I keep trying to use the number pad as kersor keys and trying to control the kersor within both documents and websites. But hay no, it doesn't work that way. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, 2 May 2010 9:29 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New to mac Nic I think the one thing we need to enforce here is do not bring your windows and windows-based screen reading concepts to the Mac. If you try to think of the Mac in windows terms or how things work with a windows screen reader, you will find the transition to be difficult. There are significant differences between windows and the Mac in terms of accessibility. You can browse the web in what is referred too as DOM mode, which is as close to a windows screen reader experience, but then there is groups mode, which presents the web experience, more as a sighted person would use it or as close as is possible. IWorks is a great package and although not perfect yet, Apple continues to improve it. I think it will be more accessible than Open Office in the end. YOu of course have the option of running VmWare's Fusion and using WIndows if necessary. My point of all this is to keep an open mind, be prepared for a learning curve, and be patient. Also make sure you do some reading and familiarize yourself with the OS and VoiceOver if you have not done so. COnsider this one of the most exciting adventures you have undertaken and you will be pleased. Yes, frustration will find you from time to time, but stay the course and you to can be a switcher. :) On May 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I personally prefer iWorks myself, but that is really only because in Open Office, each line is shown as another edit field. I still believe that is the case. As for web browsing, you can jump to certain blocks of text. With the introduction of Web spots in Mac OS X 10.6, it can sort the page so that with one command, you can jump to the areas of the page that may be of most interest to you. Of course, you can also go by elements. I really have not found any part of Mac OS inaccessible. There might be the occasional glitch, but those are quickly fixed or there is an easy workaround. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Edward wrote: Hello Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend? Also you wrote: Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. I don't want to rant on how good it is. :) Please rant, I would like to have as much info as possible. Is all of the mac OS accessible? Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with few keystrokes? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New to mac Hi, There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want. Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. I don't want to rant on how good it is. :) Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote: Hello all, I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms office and web browsing? Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this
Re: New to mac
Yeah, I have a macbook here but because I extensively do work at my desk, I bought an external apple keyboard and use the numpad commander as my navigation. This is simply because I do not own a macbook with the multitrack trackpad just yet. But it does make my extensive typing moments much more comfortable. On 3 May 2010, at 10:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I want to try the Numpad commander. But that'd be weird on a Macbook. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 3, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: And that's something I find myself doing all the time. I keep trying to use the number pad as kersor keys and trying to control the kersor within both documents and websites. But hay no, it doesn't work that way. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, 2 May 2010 9:29 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New to mac Nic I think the one thing we need to enforce here is do not bring your windows and windows-based screen reading concepts to the Mac. If you try to think of the Mac in windows terms or how things work with a windows screen reader, you will find the transition to be difficult. There are significant differences between windows and the Mac in terms of accessibility. You can browse the web in what is referred too as DOM mode, which is as close to a windows screen reader experience, but then there is groups mode, which presents the web experience, more as a sighted person would use it or as close as is possible. IWorks is a great package and although not perfect yet, Apple continues to improve it. I think it will be more accessible than Open Office in the end. YOu of course have the option of running VmWare's Fusion and using WIndows if necessary. My point of all this is to keep an open mind, be prepared for a learning curve, and be patient. Also make sure you do some reading and familiarize yourself with the OS and VoiceOver if you have not done so. COnsider this one of the most exciting adventures you have undertaken and you will be pleased. Yes, frustration will find you from time to time, but stay the course and you to can be a switcher. :) On May 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I personally prefer iWorks myself, but that is really only because in Open Office, each line is shown as another edit field. I still believe that is the case. As for web browsing, you can jump to certain blocks of text. With the introduction of Web spots in Mac OS X 10.6, it can sort the page so that with one command, you can jump to the areas of the page that may be of most interest to you. Of course, you can also go by elements. I really have not found any part of Mac OS inaccessible. There might be the occasional glitch, but those are quickly fixed or there is an easy workaround. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Edward wrote: Hello Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend? Also you wrote: Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. I don't want to rant on how good it is. :) Please rant, I would like to have as much info as possible. Is all of the mac OS accessible? Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with few keystrokes? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New to mac Hi, There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want. Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. I don't want to rant on how good it is. :) Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote: Hello all, I am
Re: Mac OS X 10.7
I vote lion or is a cheetah a cat? Now that would be col! On 3 May 2010, at 08:24, Rob Lambert wrote: There was talk of Snow Leopard actually being called Lynx. However, Cononical took it in Lucid Lynx (Ubuntu 10.04) so I'd have to say...hmm...who thinks Lion would sound good? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Is anyone wanting to take a shot at what Mac OS X 10.7 is going to be named? I don't really understand Apple's obsession with felines in Mac OS X, but I found this satirical picture on Flicker looking like an alpha build installer. If you have a bit of sight, you might want to look at this right now and tell me what you think. Ceiling Cat. Also, web status on several sites are showing builds of Mac OS X 10.7 going on a visit. Are they prowling? This could be a spoofing attempt, though I think it's more likely that it is someone inside Apple as development is being put on the back burner. Maybe their obsession with feline names in Mac OS X is because of its sleekness. Who knows? I totally vote for Ceiling Cat. MEOW! We might hear more about Mac OS X 10.7 at the World-Wide Developers COnference stretching from June 7 to June 11. I would go myself, but I'm too busy. I also think it might be an iPhone OS centric event, anyway, with just a few hints of Mac OS X 10.7. Thoughts? Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
I have a question actually. Adobe are only going after Apple but Microsoft are not using flash on their windows mobile 7 platform right now either, are they? On 3 May 2010, at 07:16, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Of course it's not true. Doesn't the question mark in the subject field speak for itself? :) It's a very subtle hint that it isn't. Nonetheless, it got the point across from some debate to get started. Mission accomplished. I can't help but find some validity, though, at least in the fact that Flash is dying. Echoing many of my previous posts, I personally think Flash will eventually. It'll be slow and painful for Adobe. Most mobile devices also support HTML5, whereas some do not support Flash. The fact that Flash is, essentially, third-party plugins also enables HTML5 to take the lead. You don't have to worry about updating to the latest software, or if the elements provided by HTML5 will be readable. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 3, 2010, at 8:09 AM, carlene knight wrote: Hi Courtney: I think that we had better find out whether this rumor is true or not as my husband knows nothing about it and keeps on top of everything. I couldn't find anything in Google, but it hasn't hit Snopes yet, so I guess we'll wait and see. Where did you hear this Nick? On May 2, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: I see a need for some people to use Flash, but I can't stand it. It's just so outdated for one, and another thing is that it seems to slow down the computer. I'm very happy with what Apple is doing about Flash. Courtney On 02/05/2010, at 7:20 in the Afternoon, carlene knight wrote: Nick, it just took me a bit. I hate Flash, and always have. You should hear me mumble and grumble when my husband listens to podcasts blasgting Apple for not supporting Flash on their products as it is so essential. Adobe, last I knew, was considering litigation. Where in the law books does it say that a company can not choose what applications it supports. On May 2, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote. Hi, Hey, I guess that just answered my question. It might just be replaced soon, though. Flash is getting old now, and we need a standard that is just implemented, doesn't require any third-party plugins to work like Flash essentially is, and doesn't crash your shit. That doesn't mean HTML5 can't, but at least, we can see what is actually on HTML5 pages and for good reason. I just love starting these debates. Oops? Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 11:24 PM, marie Howarth wrote: how are you accessing them anyway sarah? Flash content is not visible with VO On 2 May 2010, at 22:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: but how would twaudio work wiht out flash? you need to hit recording buttons in order to use it if you wanted to record directly from the website. On May 2, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's a processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to the wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work any and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to believe. Just my thoughts. On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: Hello I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo better with other formats of streaming video? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277 My Twitter http://twitter.com/chojiro -- You
Re: Mac OS X 10.7
apple are running out of cats. lol. Lion then. Unlss they will stick to their artic themes, artic tiger, but I think lion is their best bet. On 3 May 2010, at 11:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, We already have Jaguar. OS X 10.2. I think it goes like this: 10.0: Cheetah 10.1: Puma 10.2: Jaguar 10.3: Panther 10.4: Tiger 10.5: Leopard 10.6: Snow Leopard. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 3, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: OSX jaguar! I recon they will leave lion till 11.0. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Monday, 3 May 2010 7:13 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mac OS X 10.7 Hi folks, Is anyone wanting to take a shot at what Mac OS X 10.7 is going to be named? I don't really understand Apple's obsession with felines in Mac OS X, but I found this satirical picture on Flicker looking like an alpha build installer. If you have a bit of sight, you might want to look at this right now and tell me what you think. Ceiling Cat. Also, web status on several sites are showing builds of Mac OS X 10.7 going on a visit. Are they prowling? This could be a spoofing attempt, though I think it's more likely that it is someone inside Apple as development is being put on the back burner. Maybe their obsession with feline names in Mac OS X is because of its sleekness. Who knows? I totally vote for Ceiling Cat. MEOW! We might hear more about Mac OS X 10.7 at the World-Wide Developers COnference stretching from June 7 to June 11. I would go myself, but I'm too busy. I also think it might be an iPhone OS centric event, anyway, with just a few hints of Mac OS X 10.7. Thoughts? Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac OS X 10.7
ahhaha that's funny. although little cute domesticated cats is not what I think Apple want to portray. I really think the kanines should take over soon although I think that's another day, OSXI On 3 May 2010, at 11:06, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Nope i have the solution. Why not Siamese. The audio logo could be their meowing. /Krister 3 maj 2010 kl. 11.55 skrev Simon Fogarty: Didn’t know they’d had jaguar, I’d say they’ll leave lion till 11.0, so what about bobcat? Or cheater? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Monday, 3 May 2010 7:30 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.7 Hi, I guess it could be. I don't think we've had Lion yet. I believe we've had Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard and SNow Leopard now. That's for Mac OS X, anyway. Ceiling Cat would be rather amusing, but I don't think that'll happen. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 3, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Rob Lambert wrote: There was talk of Snow Leopard actually being called Lynx. However, Cononical took it in Lucid Lynx (Ubuntu 10.04) so I'd have to say...hmm...who thinks Lion would sound good? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Is anyone wanting to take a shot at what Mac OS X 10.7 is going to be named? I don't really understand Apple's obsession with felines in Mac OS X, but I found this satirical picture on Flicker looking like an alpha build installer. If you have a bit of sight, you might want to look at this right now and tell me what you think. Ceiling Cat. Also, web status on several sites are showing builds of Mac OS X 10.7 going on a visit. Are they prowling? This could be a spoofing attempt, though I think it's more likely that it is someone inside Apple as development is being put on the back burner. Maybe their obsession with feline names in Mac OS X is because of its sleekness. Who knows? I totally vote for Ceiling Cat. MEOW! We might hear more about Mac OS X 10.7 at the World-Wide Developers COnference stretching from June 7 to June 11. I would go myself, but I'm too busy. I also think it might be an iPhone OS centric event, anyway, with just a few hints of Mac OS X 10.7. Thoughts? Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What you don't know can hurt you (and your Mac). Get protected.
Sounds like a lot of scare tactics to me. It's how norton and maccaffe have made millions over the years. On 3 May 2010, at 16:39, Carolyn wrote: Has anyone checked this company and/or software out? I'm probably just ignorant enough to get ripped by what I don't know. Thanks for further info. Carolyn - Original Message - From: william lomas To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: James Nash Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Fwd: What you don't know can hurt you (and your Mac). Get protected. Begin forwarded message: From: Smith Micro smithmi...@reply.digitalriver.com Date: 3 May 2010 11:05:28 GMT+01:00 To: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com Subject: What you don't know can hurt you (and your Mac). Get protected. Reply-To: smithmi...@reply.digitalriver.com If you are having trouble viewing this email, click here. If you no longer wish to receive email offers from Smith Micro, please unsubscribe here. Take advantage of this money-saving offer from Smith Micro: Protect the security of your Mac today! What you don’t know can hurt you (and your Mac). Your Mac may not be as immune as you think. Hidden surveillance programs can be lurking on your Mac recording what you type, where you browse and even taking snapshots of your screen. You can fight back. Detect, prevent and delete the implements of internet invasions on your Mac. Put Internet Cleanup 5.1 to work for you now for just $19.99—Digital or Physical—and save over 30% (reg. $29.99)! (NOTE: This is a limited-time offer and expires in 10 days.) Stop intruders and secure your private information with Internet Cleanup's 24-hour protection. Although spyware for the Macintosh isn't anything compared to the spyware for Microsoft® Windows®, the threat is still there. —macosxspyware.com Internet Cleanup's Mac-specialized tools safeguard your data and personal information. When you're online, cover any of your tracks left by online forms, cookies, caching and other common activities. Offline, hide personal files, permanently erase deleted files and remove unwanted web and email data left on your hard drive. You get dual protection: detection and prevention. Internet Cleanup provides you with over a dozen easy-to-use tools to detect and remove spyware, protect your personal info, and speed up your web browsing. •Prevention: Protect your Mac from prying keyloggers and spyware around the clock, whether you're online or offline. Internet Cleanup's tools safeguard your critical data and keep your personal information private! •Detection: Internet Cleanup reveals surveillance applications that are hidden on your hard drive and intercepts attempts to breach your security. You get up-to-the-minute, enterprise-class detection capabilities that keep your Mac intruder-free! As Macs have become more popular, more malware has been designed specifically to target those operating systems...people should not feel comfortable saving personal information on their Macs in an unprotected form. —www.net-security.org You can stop the internet thieves that are targeting your Mac. Buy Internet Cleanup—Digital or Physical—for just $19.99, that's over 30% off the regular price of $29.99. (NOTE: This is a limited-time offer and expires in 10 days.) There are no worries with our 30-day no questions asked return policy! NEW! Flags- Easily sort and manage your search results by marking them with Flags. NEW! Secure Delete Free Space- a tool that overwrites the free space on your hard drive to ensure that data is removed and unrecoverable. NEW! View information sent and received during a connection. NEW! Protect your privacy by hiding files from other users. NEW! Selectively block JavaScripts. NEW! Prevent data theft from USB and FireWire devices. NEW! Synchronize your bookmarks on all of your web browsers. UPDATED! Safari, Internet Explorer, Firefox, Camino, and Opera support. UPDATED! Apple Mail, Eudora, Entourage and Thunderbird support. UPDATED! Updated GUI for the entire program. UPDATED! Support for OS X 10.6 Leopard. UPDATED! Erase or move Instant Messenger chat logs. UPDATED! Filter out email attachments. ENHANCED! Stop unauthorized transmissions. Plus NUMEROUS other features to keep you Mac protected 24/7 System Requirements: Mac OS X 10.4.2 or higher; 80MB of free hard disk space. 420266 This message was intended for: lomaswill...@googlemail.com For more information on why you're receiving this email, click here. Update your preferences | Unsubscribe | Privacy Policy Smith Micro Software 185 Westridge Drive Watsonville, CA 95076 william lomas follow me on
Re: What you don't know can hurt you (and your Mac). Get protected.
I'm with Ann. It's a classic money making marketing ploy. On 3 May 2010, at 17:50, Anne Robertson wrote: All it will do is slow down your system and throw up false alarms. They just want your money! We use ClamXAV from time to time, just to make sure we don't pass on any virused files to Windows users, but so far, we haven't found anything, but then we don't open files we're not sure about. O yes, this has been a Mac household for 14 years! Cheers, Anne On May 3, 2010, at 5:29 PM, william lomas wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Smith Micro smithmi...@reply.digitalriver.com Date: 3 May 2010 11:05:28 GMT+01:00 To: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com Subject: What you don't know can hurt you (and your Mac). Get protected. Reply-To: smithmi...@reply.digitalriver.com If you are having trouble viewing this email, click here. If you no longer wish to receive email offers from Smith Micro, please unsubscribe here. Take advantage of this money-saving offer from Smith Micro: Protect the security of your Mac today! What you don’t know can hurt you (and your Mac). Your Mac may not be as immune as you think. Hidden surveillance programs can be lurking on your Mac recording what you type, where you browse and even taking snapshots of your screen. You can fight back. Detect, prevent and delete the implements of internet invasions on your Mac. Put Internet Cleanup 5.1 to work for you now for just $19.99—Digital or Physical—and save over 30% (reg. $29.99)! (NOTE: This is a limited-time offer and expires in 10 days.) Stop intruders and secure your private information with Internet Cleanup's 24-hour protection. Although spyware for the Macintosh isn't anything compared to the spyware for Microsoft® Windows®, the threat is still there. —macosxspyware.com Internet Cleanup's Mac-specialized tools safeguard your data and personal information. When you're online, cover any of your tracks left by online forms, cookies, caching and other common activities. Offline, hide personal files, permanently erase deleted files and remove unwanted web and email data left on your hard drive. You get dual protection: detection and prevention. Internet Cleanup provides you with over a dozen easy-to-use tools to detect and remove spyware, protect your personal info, and speed up your web browsing. • Prevention: Protect your Mac from prying keyloggers and spyware around the clock, whether you're online or offline. Internet Cleanup's tools safeguard your critical data and keep your personal information private! • Detection: Internet Cleanup reveals surveillance applications that are hidden on your hard drive and intercepts attempts to breach your security. You get up-to-the-minute, enterprise-class detection capabilities that keep your Mac intruder-free! As Macs have become more popular, more malware has been designed specifically to target those operating systems...people should not feel comfortable saving personal information on their Macs in an unprotected form. —www.net-security.org You can stop the internet thieves that are targeting your Mac. Buy Internet Cleanup—Digital or Physical—for just $19.99, that's over 30% off the regular price of $29.99. (NOTE: This is a limited-time offer and expires in 10 days.) There are no worries with our 30-day no questions asked return policy! NEW! Flags- Easily sort and manage your search results by marking them with Flags. NEW! Secure Delete Free Space- a tool that overwrites the free space on your hard drive to ensure that data is removed and unrecoverable. NEW! View information sent and received during a connection. NEW! Protect your privacy by hiding files from other users. NEW! Selectively block JavaScripts. NEW! Prevent data theft from USB and FireWire devices. NEW! Synchronize your bookmarks on all of your web browsers. UPDATED! Safari, Internet Explorer, Firefox, Camino, and Opera support. UPDATED! Apple Mail, Eudora, Entourage and Thunderbird support. UPDATED! Updated GUI for the entire program. UPDATED! Support for OS X 10.6 Leopard. UPDATED! Erase or move Instant Messenger chat logs. UPDATED! Filter out email attachments. ENHANCED! Stop unauthorized transmissions. Plus NUMEROUS other features to keep you Mac protected 24/7 System Requirements: Mac OS X 10.4.2 or higher; 80MB of free hard disk space. 420266 This message was intended for: lomaswill...@googlemail.com For more information on why you're receiving this email, click here. Update your preferences | Unsubscribe | Privacy Policy Smith Micro Software 185 Westridge Drive Watsonville, CA 95076 william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To
Re: open office again
text edit reads docs file Sarah On 3 May 2010, at 19:01, Sarah Alawami wrote: Well I found out open office won't read dox files. I think I spelled the extention right but that was gogin to be my notes for an exam today. Ah well. looks like I can't do anything about it now. lol.'''Take care. Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com msn: chell...@hotmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1 podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/feeds -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New to mac
Hey Olivia, Webspots are awesome. You set one on a page using vo-cmd-shift-right bracket. You can remove a webspot by using vo-cmd-shift-left bracket at any area on a webpage. For example, if a page doesn't have a lot of navigation, and i need to jump to an area quickly, I'll set up a webspot and hit vo-cmd-right bracket or left bracket for the previous one. Saves on time for a lot of things. I use it on places I may need to log in or for somewhere I need information quickly. VO sets its own auto webspots too which you can get to using vo-cmd-N or previous auto vo-cmd-shift--N. Hope this helps :) On 2 May 2010, at 02:15, olivia norman wrote: I've never understood web spots and how they work. Can someone point me in the right direction here? Thanks, Olivia On May 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want. Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. I don't want to rant on how good it is. :) Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote: Hello all, I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms office and web browsing? Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New to mac
I agree with Scot. The one thing I did when switching was to view the mac as its own entity, which is exactly what it is. To constantly say to yourself how can I do this, I did it like this in windows will make your switch much more difficult. If at all possible, which it was for me to do, completely put down your windows computer while learning the mac. It's the only way you'll break the I did it like this on windows concept. You are learning a brand new OS and a brand new screen reader. It's a lot of fun. an exciting learning curve. And if you have an Apple store nearby, read up on voice over and the mac system, I used the help guides on the apple's website and visited the store and played with a mac. after around 10 minutes on one, I knew I had to move across to this exciting, and yes, accessible platform. On 2 May 2010, at 10:29, Scott Howell wrote: Nic I think the one thing we need to enforce here is do not bring your windows and windows-based screen reading concepts to the Mac. If you try to think of the Mac in windows terms or how things work with a windows screen reader, you will find the transition to be difficult. There are significant differences between windows and the Mac in terms of accessibility. You can browse the web in what is referred too as DOM mode, which is as close to a windows screen reader experience, but then there is groups mode, which presents the web experience, more as a sighted person would use it or as close as is possible. IWorks is a great package and although not perfect yet, Apple continues to improve it. I think it will be more accessible than Open Office in the end. YOu of course have the option of running VmWare's Fusion and using WIndows if necessary. My point of all this is to keep an open mind, be prepared for a learning curve, and be patient. Also make sure you do some reading and familiarize yourself with the OS and VoiceOver if you have not done so. COnsider this one of the most exciting adventures you have undertaken and you will be pleased. Yes, frustration will find you from time to time, but stay the course and you to can be a switcher. :) On May 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I personally prefer iWorks myself, but that is really only because in Open Office, each line is shown as another edit field. I still believe that is the case. As for web browsing, you can jump to certain blocks of text. With the introduction of Web spots in Mac OS X 10.6, it can sort the page so that with one command, you can jump to the areas of the page that may be of most interest to you. Of course, you can also go by elements. I really have not found any part of Mac OS inaccessible. There might be the occasional glitch, but those are quickly fixed or there is an easy workaround. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Edward wrote: Hello Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend? Also you wrote: Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. I don't want to rant on how good it is. :) Please rant, I would like to have as much info as possible. Is all of the mac OS accessible? Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with few keystrokes? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New to mac Hi, There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want. Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. I don't want to rant on how good it is. :) Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote: Hello all, I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms office and web browsing? Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward -- You received this
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
major streaming services are implementing HTML5 and flash is virtually non-existent to us mac VO users anyway. On 2 May 2010, at 22:03, Cody wrote: I don't see how this is such a great thing. Without flash, website won't work properly along with other applications that could need it - Original Message - From: Edward personal.edw...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Flash removed from OS X? Hello I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo better with other formats of streaming video? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277 My Twitter http://twitter.com/chojiro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
how are you accessing them anyway sarah? Flash content is not visible with VO On 2 May 2010, at 22:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: but how would twaudio work wiht out flash? you need to hit recording buttons in order to use it if you wanted to record directly from the website. On May 2, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's a processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to the wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work any and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to believe. Just my thoughts. On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: Hello I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo better with other formats of streaming video? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277 My Twitter http://twitter.com/chojiro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
I only had it installed for youtube. I do wanna get rid of it now. Is there anyway to uninstall or do I hit delete? On 2 May 2010, at 22:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Saying that, HTML5 is really taking the place of Flash. It just seems to be aged technology, and people don't want a processor pig. They want to be able to access the same content on the iPhone, and Flash isn't going to be on there partly due to security problems and processor issues. So, HTML5 would be the ideal solution. I think it's safe to say that The Great Flash War of 2010 is hardly over. Of course, all this is just my opinion. To me, HTML5 already takes over all the functions Flash used to perform for me, and I actually have it disabled. I watch video a lot, and I have never needed it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's a processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to the wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work any and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to believe. Just my thoughts. On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: Hello I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo better with other formats of streaming video? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277 My Twitter http://twitter.com/chojiro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
oops, I just deleted it from my plugins in my library. O well we'll see what happens :) On 2 May 2010, at 22:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Adobe actually has an uninstaller for Flash, which I believe should take care of it. Of course, you actually have to tab through the uninstaller as they're not exactly compliant. There is probably another way to do this as well, but this is just the easiest one I can think of. Try this, and good luck. http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/141/tn_14157.html Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 11:30 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I only had it installed for youtube. I do wanna get rid of it now. Is there anyway to uninstall or do I hit delete? On 2 May 2010, at 22:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Saying that, HTML5 is really taking the place of Flash. It just seems to be aged technology, and people don't want a processor pig. They want to be able to access the same content on the iPhone, and Flash isn't going to be on there partly due to security problems and processor issues. So, HTML5 would be the ideal solution. I think it's safe to say that The Great Flash War of 2010 is hardly over. Of course, all this is just my opinion. To me, HTML5 already takes over all the functions Flash used to perform for me, and I actually have it disabled. I watch video a lot, and I have never needed it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 2, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's a processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to the wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work any and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to believe. Just my thoughts. On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: Hello I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo better with other formats of streaming video? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277 My Twitter http://twitter.com/chojiro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
It's already happening. Youtube, the biggest streaming service on the face of the planet are adopting HTML5, other major companies are following suit and I have to say I for one will not miss flash or any of adobe's other inaccessible half hearted pieces of software junk. I struggled with it for years under the other OS and haven't seen much improvement even there so I can't say I'm going to miss it whatever apple decide to do. If anyone's using an iPhone or iPad or Touch, you don't use flash on there at all. can you say you're missing it? I can't get any site with flash to work productively. good for those of you who have managed to do so. On 2 May 2010, at 22:49, Scott Howell wrote: Simple, maybe these people will get smart and drop all that flash crap. I have to say that in general my experiences over the years with flash on either platform has not been very good. Adobe is so full of security holes, even the damned PDF standard is dangerous. Adobe is a company that needs to be taken to the woodshed and given a sound thrashing. I just wish PDF was not so prolific, but maybe Adobe will eventually fix the issues. On May 2, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok? then how are we to use blsck board and twaudio? and other sides like the speedtest at www.speedtest.net? Take care. On May 2, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
it's a ridiculous concept. That would be like microsoft insisting on all handsets have to run windows mobile 7 or whatever it's called. Adobe is grasping at straws. On 3 May 2010, at 00:27, Scott Howell wrote: Adobe has no legal grounds as far as I can tell and would look rather stupid trying to force Apple by going to court. Of course when you know your products suck, you will do about anything to keep your position. :) On May 2, 2010, at 7:20 PM, carlene knight wrote: Nick, it just took me a bit. I hate Flash, and always have. You should hear me mumble and grumble when my husband listens to podcasts blasgting Apple for not supporting Flash on their products as it is so essential. Adobe, last I knew, was considering litigation. Where in the law books does it say that a company can not choose what applications it supports. On May 2, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Changing voice at login
that often makes me jump too. But I guess I don't worry so much as it isn't on the page for all that long. Not page, window, time for bed i think lol On 3 May 2010, at 01:01, Yvonne Thomson wrote: I just wish I could work out how to change other stuff at login. It freaks me out when I'm watching an install or something and it's reverted to the default config. Having it go you are on a text element unexpectedly after a few seconds is kind of unnerving. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash removed from OS X?
no cramps here. *rubs hands together* bring it on! On 3 May 2010, at 01:05, Kaare Dehard wrote: understood, the same was once said for flash... I'm thinking of cyclic historical trends here... and all the attendant cramps that all folks will go through. On 2010-05-02, at 7:05 PM, carlene knight wrote: We have to think of the sighted as well as our needs. My husband uses flash for a lot of things he does. HTML5 is a great thing to look forward too, but it's not being used that much yet. On May 2, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Cody wrote: I don't see how this is such a great thing. Without flash, website won't work properly along with other applications that could need it - Original Message - From: Edward personal.edw...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Flash removed from OS X? Hello I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo better with other formats of streaming video? Thanks Edward -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect this? No. Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's letter on thoughts on Flash. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277 My Twitter http://twitter.com/chojiro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. carlene knight http://carleneknight.blogspot.com ckni...@knight-toolworks.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: audible to mp3
no, they are incripted to prevent copyright. On 30 Apr 2010, at 17:39, william lomas wrote: for a friend On 30 Apr 2010, at 17:36, Michael Huckabay wrote: I have a ? why would you want to convert these files? On 2010-04-30, at 12:11 PM, william lomas wrote: hi all, can I on a mac convert audible.com files to mp3? william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible E-book Reader?
stanza works great. And it's free. HTH On 30 Apr 2010, at 22:40, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Is there an accessible app out there that will make some e-book formats available? I have tried Sophie, and it doesn't seem to be working for me at all, unless I'm doing something wrong. One of my favorite e-book sites is Fictionwise, and I'd love to read something from there again. Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible E-book Reader?
Hi guys, Stanza can definitely be used on the mac Theresa, I use it here quite often. Here's the link if that helps. http://www.lexcycle.com/download-macintosh Rob, what are you trying to do with the navigation? for reading, I simply interact with the html and hit vo-a to read the book to me. Sadly, bookmarks don't work so I find I tend to read chapter to chapter. However, I'm pretty sure, and correct me if I'm wrong cmd-f works to find words and such we may have missed. I'm afraid I'm not much more help as my brain is currently at mushy stage so post questions you may have and I'll try and read and reply tomorrow and I'm sure others will be happy to answer while I'm in dreamland. I hope this helps. On 1 May 2010, at 01:27, Rob Lambert wrote: If someone could put up a podcast on Stanza, please? I felt the navigation to be a bit broken, and I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong...? On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Thank you, Marie. It's not clear to me from looking at Stanza's info if I can read books on my desktop. I don't have an IPod (well, the ancient Shuffle I have doesn't count) an Ipad, or an IPhone. Thanks, Teresa On Apr 30, 2:50 pm, marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote: stanza works great. And it's free. HTH On 30 Apr 2010, at 22:40, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Is there an accessible app out there that will make some e-book formats available? I have tried Sophie, and it doesn't seem to be working for me at all, unless I'm doing something wrong. One of my favorite e-book sites is Fictionwise, and I'd love to read something from there again. Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Thoughts on Flash
I read it and I totally love what he said. Very very awesome dude. everyone's gotta love steve. On 29 Apr 2010, at 18:58, Chris Blouch wrote: Apparently nobody noticed this yet but Steve Jobs posted an open letter addressing why they don't support Flash on the iPad, iPod and iPhone. Interesting read which reiterates a few points I had guessed at earlier. That Jobs guy must be pretty smart smile http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ CB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: booting taking forever?
I use a great app called Onyx to help clean up the system. I think this may help you. On 28 Apr 2010, at 19:57, James Nash wrote: Not dumb at all. First though, have you tried repairing permissions with Disk Utility? You really should avoid touching the System caches if you can avoid doing it. TC Jame, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 28 Apr 2010, at 20:07, Donna Goodin wrote: Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do I do that? Thanks, Donna On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:50 PM, James Nash wrote: Have you tried clearing your System caches etc? TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 28 Apr 2010, at 19:59, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi James, Soren, and all, OK, I just found that. The only item that was in the table was Itunes Helper. I deleted it, but my Mac is still taking a long time to boo. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Donna On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:44 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi Donna, In the accounts reference, there will be a tab called login items you should be able to fin any application that start when Mac oS X start here. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 28 Apr 2010, at 19:47, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Søren, Can you be more specific about how you got to this setting? I looked under system preferences, then accounts, but don't see anything like that. TIA, Donna On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. I had the same issue until I saw a weird application was starting up together with the os. I think it was called something like CT helper and then some digits. You can remove or disable these apps in the accounts settings in System preferences under your account and under login items. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Apr 28, 2010 kl. 3:50 PM skrev Donna Goodin: Hi all, Recently, it seems like my MacBook takes *forever to boot. It used to boot really quickly. Anyone have any ideas as to what could cause this, and how I might fix it? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You
Re: booting taking forever?
I'm afraid I don't have the link any more but I'm sure if you enter onyx mac OSX in google it should come up. it's free and very usable with voice over. On 28 Apr 2010, at 20:46, Donna Goodin wrote: Thanks, Marie. Where did you get it? TIA, Donna On Apr 28, 2010, at 3:28 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I use a great app called Onyx to help clean up the system. I think this may help you. On 28 Apr 2010, at 19:57, James Nash wrote: Not dumb at all. First though, have you tried repairing permissions with Disk Utility? You really should avoid touching the System caches if you can avoid doing it. TC Jame, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 28 Apr 2010, at 20:07, Donna Goodin wrote: Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do I do that? Thanks, Donna On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:50 PM, James Nash wrote: Have you tried clearing your System caches etc? TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 28 Apr 2010, at 19:59, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi James, Soren, and all, OK, I just found that. The only item that was in the table was Itunes Helper. I deleted it, but my Mac is still taking a long time to boo. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Donna On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:44 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi Donna, In the accounts reference, there will be a tab called login items you should be able to fin any application that start when Mac oS X start here. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 28 Apr 2010, at 19:47, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Søren, Can you be more specific about how you got to this setting? I looked under system preferences, then accounts, but don't see anything like that. TIA, Donna On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. I had the same issue until I saw a weird application was starting up together with the os. I think it was called something like CT helper and then some digits. You can remove or disable these apps in the accounts settings in System preferences under your account and under login items. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Apr 28, 2010 kl. 3:50 PM skrev Donna Goodin: Hi all, Recently, it seems like my MacBook takes *forever to boot. It used to boot really quickly. Anyone have any ideas as to what could cause this, and how I might fix it? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: iPad and bluetooth refreshable braille
as it stands, I don't think braille refreshable displays will work currently with the iPad. I do believe, and anyone can correct me if I'm wrong that this functionality will not work until the iPhone OS 4.0 is available on the iPad which won't be until the fall. HTH On 28 Apr 2010, at 20:35, Sean Tikkun wrote: Hey folks, One of my students just jumped and convinced his grandparents to get him an iPad. As his teacher I obviously need to support him. Our district is willing to get a bluetooth refreshable braille display, but I have no idea which ones might/will work. Not only that, they want to know ASAP... guess they have some money available. Any ideas or experiences? Your Friend, Sean Richards Tikkun jaq...@mac.com ADE_Logo_graysingle.png-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: weird VO thing
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Hope they fix this soon. Has anyone told Apple yet? I couldn't even begin to explain why its happening lol. On 27 Apr 2010, at 08:15, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Marie, Yes, it's happening to me a lot, too. Cheers, Anne On Apr 27, 2010, at 2:45 AM, marie Howarth wrote: I had this happen once but that was a while ago now. But something else that's been happening a lot recently is VO just stops talking either when I'm typing or switching between windows. I can easily cmd-f5 toggle several times to get it to come back on but this really is getting annoying. Anyone else experiencing this? On 27 Apr 2010, at 01:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh wow sounds easier then what I've been doing. Thanks. On Apr 26, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi Donna! When I have voiceover utility open and choose the file menu I can select export voiceover preferences and it will let me save that in a specific location and then can re-import them from the same menu. Jim On Apr 26, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Jim, Well, at least I'm not alone. :) How did you make a backup of your preferences? Thanks, Donna On Apr 26, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi Donna! I've had exactly the same thing happen to me, and not sure why! I just made a backup of my preferences and then recover them when I need to. Jim On Apr 26, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I just had the strangest thing happened. I was browsing on my Mac, and all of a sudden VO just really slowed down for no reason. I decided to restart my Mac, hoping that VO would return to normal, but when I did, it had reset itself to all the default settings. Anyone know what might have happened? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexasor: Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys Msn: jgatt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexasor: Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys Msn: jgatt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries
iTunes and speakers and voice over
Hi guys, I have used audio highjack for the question I'm about to ask. However, it is difficult to get the effects area up to higjack iTunes through my external speakers. Here's what I want. I like listening to music while I'm chatting or studying and so like to have voice over go through my USB headset. But the music can be distracting so as with Audio highjack I could highjack the audio from iTunes to go through my external speakers, is there another way to do this or does anyone have any tips on how I can get this to work in audio highjack? I try to route the mouse cursor to the scroll area and click with vo-shift-spacebar but nothing happens. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Marie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: weird VO thing
I had this happen once but that was a while ago now. But something else that's been happening a lot recently is VO just stops talking either when I'm typing or switching between windows. I can easily cmd-f5 toggle several times to get it to come back on but this really is getting annoying. Anyone else experiencing this? On 27 Apr 2010, at 01:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh wow sounds easier then what I've been doing. Thanks. On Apr 26, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi Donna! When I have voiceover utility open and choose the file menu I can select export voiceover preferences and it will let me save that in a specific location and then can re-import them from the same menu. Jim On Apr 26, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Jim, Well, at least I'm not alone. :) How did you make a backup of your preferences? Thanks, Donna On Apr 26, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi Donna! I've had exactly the same thing happen to me, and not sure why! I just made a backup of my preferences and then recover them when I need to. Jim On Apr 26, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I just had the strangest thing happened. I was browsing on my Mac, and all of a sudden VO just really slowed down for no reason. I decided to restart my Mac, hoping that VO would return to normal, but when I did, it had reset itself to all the default settings. Anyone know what might have happened? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexasor: Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys Msn: jgatt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexasor: Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys Msn: jgatt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: switching to Mac
Hi Carolyn, selection you can use shift--end and shift-home for selecting I believe. to select words you can use option-shift-right or left arrow. Note, option and the left or right arrows will also move you word to word. You must be interacting with a text area to do this though. are you wanting to open links from mail? to do this, move with voice over to the link and hit vo-space on it. HTH On 25 Apr 2010, at 23:00, ch...@q.com wrote: Hi everyoneI've ben challenging myself to use the Mac all weekend, to discover what I can through the getting started manual, and I'm only trying to ask questions when I can't locate answers with the resources I have. :I am wondering if there is a parallel process to the windows version of selecting to end of document and deleting, or to the beginning of document and deleting. On the pc, if I wanted to selet and delete such a chunk, I did so with ctl/home/delete, or ctl/end/deleteI could select words using ctl/shift/arrows. Today I had to delete a bunch of stuff letter by lettr because I couldn't find the parallel way to do it with the Mac. Any hlep would be much appreciated. I am still also having difficulty getting links to open up in email. Sometimes the data dector will work, but the choices are then only new to do, or copy link. Can someone clarify these choices and how to use them. I thank you for your continuing patience with me. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
I have to say I like Samantha better than the British voice on the iPhone who cannot say E or R at the speed I have it. I much prefer her to eloquence though any day. And after trying Samantha, I think the british one is called Cathy and Karen, the Australian one, i have to say I revert back to good old Sam. I'm not sure I'd like her on the mac but for the iPhone she works great. Am I right in thinking there are other voices for the iPod shuffle? Wonder if there is if there's any plans to export those voices to the iPhone and iPad. :) On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:11, ch...@q.com wrote: Brian: I'm curious: Isn't Samantha also synthetic? What about Alex? I kind of think she has a little smile in her voice, but I honestly find Eloquence th e easiest to understand. The old voice that used to be in the dectalk was pretty good, and I don't think anyone's using that except NOAA all hazards radio. I din't think the macbook pro even has Samantha on it as an option. Anyhow, interesting topic to me. Thanks Carolyn On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: Samantha sounds completely emotionless to me. I know that synthesizer intonation only approximates the change in pitch that happens as a person reads, but Samantha has one of the worst intonation models that I've ever heard. No matter if she is pausing at the end of a clause, making a statement, asking a question, or speaking with exclamation, she always speaks the same way. She starts high, slowly starts to drop in pitch, and has an abrupt drop when she reaches the end of a sentence or a clause boundary. All other modern synths, from Alex, to the old Macintalk voices, to DECtalk, to Eloquence, and even junk stuff like ESpeak can use intonation that changes a little depending on what it is reading. Samantha sounds completely flat and detached. Add to that she sounds like an annoyed person that smokes heavily, and I think she's a crap voice. It really bugs me that she is becoming the default voice for so many blind-people devices. If we had to use a Scansoft voice, Tom would be better. At least Tom modulates. A synthetic voice would be more expressive. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 5:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac? Hi, I find Samantha a lot nicer on a computer than the iPhone. THis is in part because of the quality, but I for some reason find her a much harsher assistant on the iPhone than I do on a computer. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Hell I thought she was one of the better quality voices out there. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 8:30 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac? Hi, Samantha is a SAPI voice, made by Scansoft, and referred to Vocalizer on any mobile platform from Nuance. It is the voice of the iThingies though, but I find her harsh to listen to. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:34 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Thank you for your response. But how can this be? Is she not the beloved voice of the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad? Perhaps I refer to her by the wrong name? Mark Get to know yourself as you get to know me on The Secret Life of Mark Marcus Live Talk Show http://candleshore.com/secrets -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gkearney Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:12 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac? I fear you shall not find symmetry in your world...Samantha is a Microsoft Windows SAPI voice and is not an option for Macintosh users. Gregory Kearney Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind of Western Australia 61 Kitchener Ave Victoria Park, WA 6100' AUSTRALIA +61 08 9311 8246 On Apr 21, 9:20 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Call me slow but I only just now realized that my beloved Samantha is not on my Mac. All I have, of any quality anyway, is Alex. Where is she? Please tell me that I can download her to my Mac so I can achieve perfect symmetry in my world. (Smile) Mark** ANNOUNCING THE SECRET LIFE OF MARK MARCUS LIVE CALL-IN TALK SHOW!!! In each episode, join Mark, along with invited guests, as he explores the
Re: malwear and macs
lol, I still got viruses with antivirus on windows. But I see what you're saying. I guess eventually either apple will help protect us from viruses or we'll have to invest in a third party app. I just hope no viruses or malwear get me. lol On 24 Apr 2010, at 19:23, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, PSH. Articles. They say it's not there. But really, let's see when Macs get viruses. And if you're attacked and your Mac does not defend itself, you lose the battle. And you have to invest in software. Actually, it's malware protection Mac has. Not antivirus. When downloading files, Mac OS X 10.6 automatically scans the file in the background for malware and potential risks. This, of course, does not fall well with the latest get a Mac ads. They continue to bash PCs for being highly unreliable, unstable and prone to virus infections of any kind. The ads seem to indicate that Macs are entirely invulnerable, which is not true with any operating system regardless of what you are running. Of course, in order to get a larger market share, Apple has to embellish that part a little bit to make it more appealing. It's partially true, but, as is always the case, if Apple went ahead and said Oh yeah, and you hardly get any viruses! people would be saying something like Well, I have antivirus on Windows. Of course, then you could start arguing stability and such, but each to their own! Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 24, 2010, at 7:33 PM, tim wrote: Nice, but it also stated that you have to say yes to the install. Unlike windows 7, it will install without say a thing unless you have active x turned off. Then using the browser becomes a pain to use. Also saw the article on snow having builtin virus, and we all see it still don't have virus protection. On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:37 PM, marie Howarth wrote: thought you guys maybe interested in this article. http://technology.globalthoughtz.com/index.php/a-potential-backdoor-malware-for-mac-identified007/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed:+globalthoughtzHome+(Global+Thoughtz) On 20 Apr 2010, at 22:27, James Nash wrote: Nothing - even UNIX is invulnerable. and as Chris has said, the web is the big and future target. Perhaps the most dangerous application/opening on a computer is the system's web browser. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 20 Apr 2010, at 22:02, Chris Blouch wrote: OSX being Unix doesn't make it impervious, as recent security updates from Apple attest to, but it does make it harder. Throw in the small market share and most malware developers will move on to easier/broader targets (Windows). That said, an even bigger target is the web which, by design, is cross platform. So if you're one of those deviant types interested in trying to break into a system, your time might be better spent doing cross site scripting or Acrobat exploits than OS-specific hackery. It also happens that people like to type in credit card numbers and shop over the web, which doesn't happen much in desktop apps or the OS. So this makes the web a juicy target for those of nefarious intents. CB Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: No, the real reason why it's hard is because osx = unix. Did the tweet include a link? It might be helpfull to include this so that we can see what the tweeter was going on about. On 19/04/2010, Joe Plummer joeplum...@tds.net wrote: That is not the reason for it being hard to get a virus on a Mac. The new OS of windows does the same thing. The reason it is hard to get this stuff on a Mac is that for now there is no one writing the stuff for the Mac. Because it is not a big enough market. Now it becoming more and more popular this might change. Sign, Joe Plummer ( JP ) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: malwear and macs I would't worry about it to much, because the mac will ask you if you want to install and tell you what is installing. That is why it is hard to get a virus on a mac now. On Apr 16, 2010, at 1:34 PM, marie Howarth wrote: someone just retweeted something about malwear now being able to take over macs. If this is true, how does everyone think we should protect our macs? I know norton and such programmes are available, but I hated them when I was on the windows side. One of the reasons I came to the mac was because the lack of viruses. Do those of you among us with more knowledge than I possess on this matter think this is a real threat and what would you do about it? I'm a pretty frightful mac user right now. -- You
Re: Mail too slow
maybe some cleaning up needs to be done on your systems? I'm assuming mail has cash, not that I pretend to know the ins and outs but I am not seeing the same issues. :) On 24 Apr 2010, at 19:42, Sarah Alawami wrote: actually in my case It will keep telling me a whole slew of rows are added and today I just sent out messages meant for yesterday forgetting they were even there. I wish mail can't quit with items in the outbox. but I do myself notice the slowness. Take care. On Apr 23, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Mike Reiser wrote: I've seen this issue as well, and also sometimes you can't quit it without it telling you the operation can't be completed. Mike aim screen name: crhchmiker msn screen name: blindgu...@gmail.com yahoo screenname: miker19882001 skype name:miker1988 twitter:www.twitter.com/archenemy12 On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:08 AM, mani wrote: Of late, I am finding Mail to be too slow. When I bring up Mail for the first time, it takes more than 10 minutes to get all my new messages. I know it is not my wireless connection because Safari works just fine. Any ideas why? Thanks, mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: malwear and macs
I already have mine set that way. Seems a good plan :) On 24 Apr 2010, at 20:01, John J Herzog wrote: Guys, One of the tips in the malware article is to protect yourself by preventing safari from opening safe files after download. This setting can be changed in Safari's preferences. Basically, it means that disk images are not automatically mounted, zip files are not unzipped, etc. This makes sure that nothing is done with the file until you physically click on it in your downloads folder. If you are really paranoid about security, perhaps this may be worth looking into. John On Apr 24, 2010, at 2:52 PM, marie Howarth wrote: lol, I still got viruses with antivirus on windows. But I see what you're saying. I guess eventually either apple will help protect us from viruses or we'll have to invest in a third party app. I just hope no viruses or malwear get me. lol On 24 Apr 2010, at 19:23, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, PSH. Articles. They say it's not there. But really, let's see when Macs get viruses. And if you're attacked and your Mac does not defend itself, you lose the battle. And you have to invest in software. Actually, it's malware protection Mac has. Not antivirus. When downloading files, Mac OS X 10.6 automatically scans the file in the background for malware and potential risks. This, of course, does not fall well with the latest get a Mac ads. They continue to bash PCs for being highly unreliable, unstable and prone to virus infections of any kind. The ads seem to indicate that Macs are entirely invulnerable, which is not true with any operating system regardless of what you are running. Of course, in order to get a larger market share, Apple has to embellish that part a little bit to make it more appealing. It's partially true, but, as is always the case, if Apple went ahead and said Oh yeah, and you hardly get any viruses! people would be saying something like Well, I have antivirus on Windows. Of course, then you could start arguing stability and such, but each to their own! Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 24, 2010, at 7:33 PM, tim wrote: Nice, but it also stated that you have to say yes to the install. Unlike windows 7, it will install without say a thing unless you have active x turned off. Then using the browser becomes a pain to use. Also saw the article on snow having builtin virus, and we all see it still don't have virus protection. On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:37 PM, marie Howarth wrote: thought you guys maybe interested in this article. http://technology.globalthoughtz.com/index.php/a-potential-backdoor-malware-for-mac-identified007/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed:+globalthoughtzHome+(Global+Thoughtz) On 20 Apr 2010, at 22:27, James Nash wrote: Nothing - even UNIX is invulnerable. and as Chris has said, the web is the big and future target. Perhaps the most dangerous application/opening on a computer is the system's web browser. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 20 Apr 2010, at 22:02, Chris Blouch wrote: OSX being Unix doesn't make it impervious, as recent security updates from Apple attest to, but it does make it harder. Throw in the small market share and most malware developers will move on to easier/broader targets (Windows). That said, an even bigger target is the web which, by design, is cross platform. So if you're one of those deviant types interested in trying to break into a system, your time might be better spent doing cross site scripting or Acrobat exploits than OS-specific hackery. It also happens that people like to type in credit card numbers and shop over the web, which doesn't happen much in desktop apps or the OS. So this makes the web a juicy target for those of nefarious intents. CB Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: No, the real reason why it's hard is because osx = unix. Did the tweet include a link? It might be helpfull to include this so that we can see what the tweeter was going on about. On 19/04/2010, Joe Plummer joeplum...@tds.net wrote: That is not the reason for it being hard to get a virus on a Mac. The new OS of windows does the same thing. The reason it is hard to get this stuff on a Mac is that for now there is no one writing the stuff for the Mac. Because it is not a big enough market. Now it becoming more and more popular this might change. Sign, Joe Plummer ( JP ) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: malwear and macs I would't worry about it to much, because the mac will ask you if you want to install and tell you
Re: jumping to text in safari
Hi, using vo-I works great for this in safari. sadly you can only search for words but say you want to find a piece of text and you know one word is definitely there, hit vo-I [sometimes it may say busy but this is because the website has a lot of information for voice over to search through, give it a few seconds and once it announces number of items start typing]. Once you start typing the number of items will reduce and you can arrow up and down to search for the text you require. It will read sentences with that word, making the search easier. Hit enter or vo-space and it will take you directly to where you selected. HtH On 23 Apr 2010, at 12:56, May McDonald wrote: Hi everyone. How do I find text and then move to it in Safari? I tried doing command f typing in what I'm looking for and then pressing enter but it won't take me to the location. May and Wyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover question
Hi Josh, It means press them both quickly. On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:29, Josh wrote: Hi I'm reading the voiceover guide on my netbook. when it says, press vo f1 f1, does this mean: hold down control option press f1 twice quickly? or does it mean to hold down coontrol and option, press f1, release control and option, and press f1 again? Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible newsreader
I'm testing one at the moment, will report back as soon as I have reached a conclusion. On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:33, william lomas wrote: hi does anyone please know of an accessible newsgroup reader? Unison is useless lol william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Gruml accessible RSS reader
Hi, Some people have been asking for an accessible RSS reader on the mac. The mail app obviously gives some functionality with rSS but the app I just found is pretty much amazing. You can share links with your social networks, read the articles where you like, and overall is pretty awesome. Very responsive with VO. It is in beta but I have just emailed the creators and congratulated them on the level of accessibility. What you need Your mac Your safari Your internet and a google account. OK, before anyone starts jumping down my throat. You only need to sign in with a google account. You do not need to go to the web to subscribe or whatever. You can but subscriptions or cancelling can all be done within the app. Download the app from the website and once you've ran the dMG file, enter your google account and off you go. It's called Gruml and I like it a lot. Here's the link. Any questions feel free to email me. http://www.grumlapp.com/ twitter: http://twitter.com/cali_chica AIM: phoenixfire1807 live journal site: http://miss-la-angel.livejournal.com my website: http://phoenixquils.com facebook: http://facebook.com/marie.howarth writer's twitter: http://twitter.com/MJ_Phoenix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Gruml accessible RSS reader
I have no idea what the difference is. On 23 Apr 2010, at 16:56, william lomas wrote: that is not a newsgorup reader though? On 23 Apr 2010, at 16:43, marie Howarth wrote: Hi, Some people have been asking for an accessible RSS reader on the mac. The mail app obviously gives some functionality with rSS but the app I just found is pretty much amazing. You can share links with your social networks, read the articles where you like, and overall is pretty awesome. Very responsive with VO. It is in beta but I have just emailed the creators and congratulated them on the level of accessibility. What you need Your mac Your safari Your internet and a google account. OK, before anyone starts jumping down my throat. You only need to sign in with a google account. You do not need to go to the web to subscribe or whatever. You can but subscriptions or cancelling can all be done within the app. Download the app from the website and once you've ran the dMG file, enter your google account and off you go. It's called Gruml and I like it a lot. Here's the link. Any questions feel free to email me. http://www.grumlapp.com/ twitter: http://twitter.com/cali_chica AIM: phoenixfire1807 live journal site: http://miss-la-angel.livejournal.com my website: http://phoenixquils.com facebook: http://facebook.com/marie.howarth writer's twitter: http://twitter.com/MJ_Phoenix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible rss readers
I thought it had been discontinued, net news wire, I know the feeds had been trangressed but anyway. I use mail for all of my RSS feeds, works great for me at least. Others may have other suggestions. On 22 Apr 2010, at 21:34, William Windels wrote: Hi Chad, I use netnewswire for rss reading. It's perhaps not perfect accessible but, after some configurations, I find it comfortable. It's also free. Alternatively, the mail program has also rss-functionality but I have no experiences with that and I think it has not that much possibilities. I think, if you type netnewswire in google, you'll find the places to download it. good luck, best regards, William Op 22-apr-2010, om 22:14 heeft chad baker het volgende geschreven: Hi what's a good accessible rss news reader? I'm knew to the mac not sure what's out there that's works good with voice over. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a rather odd bug (maybe)
what did it say in your status bar? if it says it was charging try hitting VO-F1 twice quickly to pull up your app chooser and see if your system dialogue is open. If it is and the window is there, hit CMD-w to close it. To check battery hit VO-M twice to pull up status bar and find battery, it should tell you if you're charging and how much is left to charge or if you're not, then how much battery time there is. Sorry if I've given you too much instruction, trying to be thorough. :) hth On 22 Apr 2010, at 22:09, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: HI all, Just encountered something rather strange. My macbook pro was running on AC current however VO kept telling me that I was running on reserve battery power. Now the only thing I can assume is that at some point (obviously prior to plugging in) I had been running on reserve power and had not got rid of the window. However, I couldn't find it anywhere. Anyone seen this before? Cheers from a rather baffled, Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: More Itunes problems
I have a huge library running from an external hard drive with most of my music on it. But when I'm on the go, I have another library on my mac's HD so I still have music and such and some Itunes U stuff. On 21 Apr 2010, at 04:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok I don't really see the poinkt of switching libraries. Maybe I don't use itunes enough but what's the point in doing this? Take care. On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote: hey it doesn't matter whether you open it from the dock or the applications folder. to switch libraries, hold down the option key when you open it. it will then bring up the dialog where you choose your library. peace and positivity Jessica and Goldina follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 2010-04-20, at 4:49 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: I'm still having trouble switching libraries in Itunes. When you open it, do you open it throught the dock or the applications folder, or does it not matter? When I try pressing command as I open it, it worked the first time, but it didn't work when I tried to switch back. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
I love Alex too and use him pretty much all of the time. I trialled other voices from infovox and such but could not bring myself to pay $99 for one set of voices. I understand now why they cost so much but even still I just can't justify that much money for 4 or 5 voices and I like a mix of the british and American voices so would need to buy two packs and I'm also learning spanish so would have kinda liked one of the spanish voices too, you can see my dilemma. lol On 21 Apr 2010, at 10:05, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Well, it'd be a surprise, sure. But more voices provides more choices. I love Alex, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Rob wrote: I can see her on portable devices, but full macs? I wonder how it would be received, compared to Alex. Sent from my iPod On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:58 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: She is by newance I believe so I don't think yu will find this voice on teh mac unless there is a newance version of this for os10? Tc S On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Thank you for your response. But how can this be? Is she not the beloved voice of the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad? Perhaps I refer to her by the wrong name? Mark Get to know yourself as you get to know me on The Secret Life of Mark Marcus Live Talk Show http://candleshore.com/secrets -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gkearney Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:12 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac? I fear you shall not find symmetry in your world...Samantha is a Microsoft Windows SAPI voice and is not an option for Macintosh users. Gregory Kearney Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind of Western Australia 61 Kitchener Ave Victoria Park, WA 6100' AUSTRALIA +61 08 9311 8246 On Apr 21, 9:20 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Call me slow but I only just now realized that my beloved Samantha is not on my Mac. All I have, of any quality anyway, is Alex. Where is she? Please tell me that I can download her to my Mac so I can achieve perfect symmetry in my world. (Smile) Mark** ANNOUNCING THE SECRET LIFE OF MARK MARCUS LIVE CALL-IN TALK SHOW!!! In each episode, join Mark, along with invited guests, as he explores the world in which we live and the world which lives within us. As you listen or participate in a family-friendly, no-holds-barred discussion, you will find yourself being drawn deeper and deeper into the mystery, majesty, and wonder that is The Secret Life of Mark Marcus. You can listen and participate via telephone, an Internet-enabled computer, or Smartphone application. No need to sign up on a website or be required to enter any pin codes. Just join in and let your voice be heard around the world. To listen or participate via phone just dial (724-898-1193 during the show's scheduled time. That's all there is to it. Sign Up To Receive Text-Message Alerts When The Show Is Live!! Can't listen live? No problem, download/listen to past episodes on demand, at your convenience. For more information including an audio PROMO for the next scheduled episode, show times, the ability to listen or participate via computer and more, go to:http://candleshore.com/secrets Let's Make A Joyful Noise, Together!!! Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. He who stands on tiptoe doesn't stand firm. She who rushes ahead doesn't go far. He who tries to shine dims his own light. She who defines herself can't know who she really is. He who has power over others can't empower himself. She who clings to her work will create nothing that endures. (Lao Tzu) For infinite knowledge, go to: candleshoreblog.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Article from the RNIB about the IPad
I don't know if the tripple click of the home button is set to a default but Apple try to not second guess their customers so I think this would be kind of counter Apple. And not to mention, they would still complain if the triple tap brought up voice over when it was a low vision user who was using the phone. I seriously think this article is nit picking. And, like you say Dan, all of these devices need to be hooked up to ITunes to get them working. Someone also pointed out on twitter earlier that the insertion of a simcard into the IPhones and IPad 3Gs would not be accessible. I don't know about anywhere else, but Apple inserted my simcard into my IPhone and registered it for me in store when I got it. And with the introduction of the new Micro-sims, I don't want to be messing with something that small. I'll leave that to the experts thank you :) On 21 Apr 2010, at 08:30, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Yeah, agreed there Anne. Apple does have it right, and obviously these blindness organizations expect VO, and any accessibility features to be turned on by default. The iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad are accessible out of the box in my opinion, because with those devices, you have to hook them up to a computer anyway at first, before using them to sync your content, and register the device. Voiceover can be turned on in iTunes via the device's settings, so therefore I do consider that accessible out of the box. Maybe what they were getting at, is the fact that it'd be nice if the tripple-click home setting under accessibility was set to toggle Voiceover by default? Not sure, , but that's a possibility as to what they were getting at. On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, Yes, it was a pretty good article for the RNIB, but I had the same reaction as you did about it being a pity it wasn't accessible out of the box. They just can't admit that Apple has really got it right! Cheers, Anne On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I'm a bit confused here. It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it has to be activated before the iPad can be used. and It would have been a real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, this was not quite the case. These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird definition of out of the box. It's a mainstream product. That'd make it too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a product not geared specifically towards blind people. That's the only thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of the box that rNIB promotes readily? I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and negatives of the product which is good. The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. John On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: Hi guys, Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it is for you all to read. It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the blind in the UK. You need to download the article, its in word format but will read on text edit and such on the mac. thanks http://www.rnib.org.uk/livingwithsightloss/computersphones/Pages/technology_news_reports.aspx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
Re: Article from the RNIB about the IPad
Neither can I Nick. As someone who has never even looked at my sim card in the IPhone, I couldn't comment but I think some users may find it difficult to know which way around the simcard goes. I know I used to always get my dad to change simcards in my old phones. But they don't even mention the sim card component in this article, and I highly doubt they're probably too aware of it. lol. I'm sure they would have said something if they knew about the simcard option. On 21 Apr 2010, at 11:12, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Hmm. I'm going to be interested in that. Inserting the sim in the iPhone is ridiculously easy. I want to do it on the iPad now. I can't imagine it being any different. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:10 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I don't know if the tripple click of the home button is set to a default but Apple try to not second guess their customers so I think this would be kind of counter Apple. And not to mention, they would still complain if the triple tap brought up voice over when it was a low vision user who was using the phone. I seriously think this article is nit picking. And, like you say Dan, all of these devices need to be hooked up to ITunes to get them working. Someone also pointed out on twitter earlier that the insertion of a simcard into the IPhones and IPad 3Gs would not be accessible. I don't know about anywhere else, but Apple inserted my simcard into my IPhone and registered it for me in store when I got it. And with the introduction of the new Micro-sims, I don't want to be messing with something that small. I'll leave that to the experts thank you :) On 21 Apr 2010, at 08:30, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Yeah, agreed there Anne. Apple does have it right, and obviously these blindness organizations expect VO, and any accessibility features to be turned on by default. The iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad are accessible out of the box in my opinion, because with those devices, you have to hook them up to a computer anyway at first, before using them to sync your content, and register the device. Voiceover can be turned on in iTunes via the device's settings, so therefore I do consider that accessible out of the box. Maybe what they were getting at, is the fact that it'd be nice if the tripple-click home setting under accessibility was set to toggle Voiceover by default? Not sure, , but that's a possibility as to what they were getting at. On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, Yes, it was a pretty good article for the RNIB, but I had the same reaction as you did about it being a pity it wasn't accessible out of the box. They just can't admit that Apple has really got it right! Cheers, Anne On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I'm a bit confused here. It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it has to be activated before the iPad can be used. and It would have been a real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, this was not quite the case. These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird definition of out of the box. It's a mainstream product. That'd make it too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a product not geared specifically towards blind people. That's the only thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of the box that rNIB promotes readily? I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and negatives of the product which is good. The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. John On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth
Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
yes, i think there should be an option to buy individual voices. I like heather and I think its Emily. Ryan's OK too but one or two voices doesn't justify me buying a whole bunch of voices, like you said, taking up room. Maybe if enough people email them they might consider it an option. haha, and then again, maybe not. On 21 Apr 2010, at 11:10, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, See, I asked them about this. APparently, Acapela does not permit sales of separate voices. THis is apparently because of agencies. They seem to find it a better solution to just buy a package that suits your needs so you can choose, rather than agencies and such having to buy multiple times. I guess I can see that, but it would be nice. I don't want a lot of those voices taking space on my computer. The only ones I really care about are Peter and Heather. let's complain! Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:04 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I love Alex too and use him pretty much all of the time. I trialled other voices from infovox and such but could not bring myself to pay $99 for one set of voices. I understand now why they cost so much but even still I just can't justify that much money for 4 or 5 voices and I like a mix of the british and American voices so would need to buy two packs and I'm also learning spanish so would have kinda liked one of the spanish voices too, you can see my dilemma. lol On 21 Apr 2010, at 10:05, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Well, it'd be a surprise, sure. But more voices provides more choices. I love Alex, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Rob wrote: I can see her on portable devices, but full macs? I wonder how it would be received, compared to Alex. Sent from my iPod On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:58 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: She is by newance I believe so I don't think yu will find this voice on teh mac unless there is a newance version of this for os10? Tc S On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Thank you for your response. But how can this be? Is she not the beloved voice of the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad? Perhaps I refer to her by the wrong name? Mark Get to know yourself as you get to know me on The Secret Life of Mark Marcus Live Talk Show http://candleshore.com/secrets -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gkearney Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:12 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac? I fear you shall not find symmetry in your world...Samantha is a Microsoft Windows SAPI voice and is not an option for Macintosh users. Gregory Kearney Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind of Western Australia 61 Kitchener Ave Victoria Park, WA 6100' AUSTRALIA +61 08 9311 8246 On Apr 21, 9:20 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Call me slow but I only just now realized that my beloved Samantha is not on my Mac. All I have, of any quality anyway, is Alex. Where is she? Please tell me that I can download her to my Mac so I can achieve perfect symmetry in my world. (Smile) Mark** ANNOUNCING THE SECRET LIFE OF MARK MARCUS LIVE CALL-IN TALK SHOW!!! In each episode, join Mark, along with invited guests, as he explores the world in which we live and the world which lives within us. As you listen or participate in a family-friendly, no-holds-barred discussion, you will find yourself being drawn deeper and deeper into the mystery, majesty, and wonder that is The Secret Life of Mark Marcus. You can listen and participate via telephone, an Internet-enabled computer, or Smartphone application. No need to sign up on a website or be required to enter any pin codes. Just join in and let your voice be heard around the world. To listen or participate via phone just dial (724-898-1193 during the show's scheduled time. That's all there is to it. Sign Up To Receive Text-Message Alerts When The Show Is Live!! Can't listen live? No problem, download/listen to past episodes on demand, at your convenience. For more information including an audio PROMO for the next scheduled episode, show times, the ability to listen or participate via computer and more, go to:http://candleshore.com/secrets Let's Make A Joyful Noise, Together!!! Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. He who stands on tiptoe doesn't stand firm. She who rushes ahead doesn't go far. He who tries to shine dims his own light. She who defines herself can't know who she really is. He who
Office may be written in coco was Re: the apple user?
Well, this article may release some new light on the office on the mac situation for us all. It is not in black and white yet but this article suggests that office may just be written in Coco. Outlook will be coming to the office suite and it will be written in coco. I am hoping the rest of the apps will be also written in the language our beloved voice over recognises. It's not concrete but later this year we may have access to the office suite that is so essential to the business world. http://www.tgdaily.com/services/48387-microsoft-touts-office-2011-for-mac-os-x On 21 Apr 2010, at 14:13, Kaare Dehard wrote: It comes down to what I've said choose the tools. Ms spreadsheet access is still better, and we can harrang apple in a kindly way til this changes, but I'm greedy, and do have bootcamp installed for these eventualities. It really is about chosing toools that fit the task even if in general terms, I don't like the manufactures of the tool. On 2010-04-21, at 4:38 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: good morning Denise, I would agree with the others who have replied to this thread stating that the Mac can be used as a productivity tool. I am a University professor (in the American sense of that word rather than the Uk/Irish meaning) which means I must use my mac to write papers, grade student exams and to carry out other functions. However, I have not totally abandoned my Dell. While the word processor in iWork 09 is accessible, I don't like either the Numbers spreadsheet application or indeed the access provided by VO. It's just an opinion, and no doubt the zealots on this list will vehemently disagree, but I still believe that the browsing of spreadsheets using Jaws is unparallelled. Vo lacks the kinds of semantic access to this kind of data that Jaws/Excel provide. I would particularly agree with the comment which said preview is a lovely PDF reader, however it has given me problems when used in full-screen mode. Cheers Dónal On 21 Apr 2010, at 01:23, denise avant wrote: Hi, Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write briefs, with case citations. I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. So thanks. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J Herzog Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the apple user? Hello, As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I can helpfully answer your questions. Forgive the length of this email. First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other screen readers can you say that about? Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for windows and run office without a hitch. There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact configuration at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh install of windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's awesome, because it does a complete and utter system restore when windows decides to go south on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with fusion is better than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a fusion snapshot literally restores all files and settings to the way they were when you took it. It is much more extensive than using the built in windows system restore utility. It has saved my skin a number of times, and I will give you a perfect example. At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a scanner with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I was using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for the new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I found myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard windows
Re: Article from the RNIB about the IPad
I like that analogy lol. On 21 Apr 2010, at 14:19, Kaare Dehard wrote: They from what I've read are like a lot of other organizations, You need accessible toilet paper to work off of the role before it can be deemed safe to do it's primary function for a blind person:) On 2010-04-21, at 6:20 AM, marie Howarth wrote: Neither can I Nick. As someone who has never even looked at my sim card in the IPhone, I couldn't comment but I think some users may find it difficult to know which way around the simcard goes. I know I used to always get my dad to change simcards in my old phones. But they don't even mention the sim card component in this article, and I highly doubt they're probably too aware of it. lol. I'm sure they would have said something if they knew about the simcard option. On 21 Apr 2010, at 11:12, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Hmm. I'm going to be interested in that. Inserting the sim in the iPhone is ridiculously easy. I want to do it on the iPad now. I can't imagine it being any different. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:10 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I don't know if the tripple click of the home button is set to a default but Apple try to not second guess their customers so I think this would be kind of counter Apple. And not to mention, they would still complain if the triple tap brought up voice over when it was a low vision user who was using the phone. I seriously think this article is nit picking. And, like you say Dan, all of these devices need to be hooked up to ITunes to get them working. Someone also pointed out on twitter earlier that the insertion of a simcard into the IPhones and IPad 3Gs would not be accessible. I don't know about anywhere else, but Apple inserted my simcard into my IPhone and registered it for me in store when I got it. And with the introduction of the new Micro-sims, I don't want to be messing with something that small. I'll leave that to the experts thank you :) On 21 Apr 2010, at 08:30, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Yeah, agreed there Anne. Apple does have it right, and obviously these blindness organizations expect VO, and any accessibility features to be turned on by default. The iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad are accessible out of the box in my opinion, because with those devices, you have to hook them up to a computer anyway at first, before using them to sync your content, and register the device. Voiceover can be turned on in iTunes via the device's settings, so therefore I do consider that accessible out of the box. Maybe what they were getting at, is the fact that it'd be nice if the tripple-click home setting under accessibility was set to toggle Voiceover by default? Not sure, , but that's a possibility as to what they were getting at. On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, Yes, it was a pretty good article for the RNIB, but I had the same reaction as you did about it being a pity it wasn't accessible out of the box. They just can't admit that Apple has really got it right! Cheers, Anne On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I'm a bit confused here. It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it has to be activated before the iPad can be used. and It would have been a real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, this was not quite the case. These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird definition of out of the box. It's a mainstream product. That'd make it too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a product not geared specifically towards blind people. That's the only thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of the box that rNIB promotes readily? I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and negatives of the product which is good
Re: the apple user?
I'm with you Nick. I don't use spread sheets nor do I ever intend to use them but I do believe some people do use tables and with increasing releases I'm sure Apple will do more to improve accessibility. I struggled with excel when I had to use jaws, and so can't imagine why there's such praise for the app and the screen reader. Maybe I'll never understand it. On 21 Apr 2010, at 14:26, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I'm still a bit confused here. What do you guys want in spreadsheets, exactly? I don't get it. I was never a big fan of them, so I wouldn't really know. Why did I not used to be a fan of spreadsheets? I really don't know. I guess I couldn't be bothered using Excel. As for the rest of it, I love my Mac. The Mac is not a machine to play with. It is an amazing and enjoyable, and very engaging experience. I would say immersive but the fact that would be a 3D experience surrounding the user would sound a bit weird. But that's what it feels like. Even if I only perform the various tasks of writing documents, e-mails and managing files, not to mention browsing the web, it always feels new. I always enjoy doing it, as opposed to doing it on a Windows machine. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Dan Roy wrote: I love my Mac and would never go back to using windows as my main machine. However,the point about spreadsheets is, unfortunately, a good 1. I am forced to use windows for spreadsheet work, for now anyway! On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: good morning Denise, I would agree with the others who have replied to this thread stating that the Mac can be used as a productivity tool. I am a University professor (in the American sense of that word rather than the Uk/Irish meaning) which means I must use my mac to write papers, grade student exams and to carry out other functions. However, I have not totally abandoned my Dell. While the word processor in iWork 09 is accessible, I don't like either the Numbers spreadsheet application or indeed the access provided by VO. It's just an opinion, and no doubt the zealots on this list will vehemently disagree, but I still believe that the browsing of spreadsheets using Jaws is unparallelled. Vo lacks the kinds of semantic access to this kind of data that Jaws/Excel provide. I would particularly agree with the comment which said preview is a lovely PDF reader, however it has given me problems when used in full-screen mode. Cheers Dónal On 21 Apr 2010, at 01:23, denise avant wrote: Hi, Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write briefs, with case citations. I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. So thanks. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J Herzog Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the apple user? Hello, As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I can helpfully answer your questions. Forgive the length of this email. First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other screen readers can you say that about? Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for windows and run office without a hitch. There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact configuration at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh install of windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's awesome, because it does a complete and utter system restore when windows decides to go south on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with fusion is better than a
Re: Office may be written in coco was Re: the apple user?
I am not certain, around £80 or £90 here in the UK, so around the same in Euros I'm guessing with current exchange rates. On 21 Apr 2010, at 15:05, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, What does MS Office actually cost for the Mac? Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:37 PM, marie Howarth wrote: Well, this article may release some new light on the office on the mac situation for us all. It is not in black and white yet but this article suggests that office may just be written in Coco. Outlook will be coming to the office suite and it will be written in coco. I am hoping the rest of the apps will be also written in the language our beloved voice over recognises. It's not concrete but later this year we may have access to the office suite that is so essential to the business world. http://www.tgdaily.com/services/48387-microsoft-touts-office-2011-for-mac-os-x On 21 Apr 2010, at 14:13, Kaare Dehard wrote: It comes down to what I've said choose the tools. Ms spreadsheet access is still better, and we can harrang apple in a kindly way til this changes, but I'm greedy, and do have bootcamp installed for these eventualities. It really is about chosing toools that fit the task even if in general terms, I don't like the manufactures of the tool. On 2010-04-21, at 4:38 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: good morning Denise, I would agree with the others who have replied to this thread stating that the Mac can be used as a productivity tool. I am a University professor (in the American sense of that word rather than the Uk/Irish meaning) which means I must use my mac to write papers, grade student exams and to carry out other functions. However, I have not totally abandoned my Dell. While the word processor in iWork 09 is accessible, I don't like either the Numbers spreadsheet application or indeed the access provided by VO. It's just an opinion, and no doubt the zealots on this list will vehemently disagree, but I still believe that the browsing of spreadsheets using Jaws is unparallelled. Vo lacks the kinds of semantic access to this kind of data that Jaws/Excel provide. I would particularly agree with the comment which said preview is a lovely PDF reader, however it has given me problems when used in full-screen mode. Cheers Dónal On 21 Apr 2010, at 01:23, denise avant wrote: Hi, Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write briefs, with case citations. I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. So thanks. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J Herzog Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the apple user? Hello, As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I can helpfully answer your questions. Forgive the length of this email. First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other screen readers can you say that about? Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for windows and run office without a hitch. There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact configuration at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh install of windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's awesome, because it does a complete and utter system restore when windows decides to go south on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with fusion is better than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a fusion snapshot literally restores all files and settings to the way they were when you took it. It is much more extensive than using the built
Re: character pallet
Hi, Try this. go to system prefs. select Keybarod and ensure the keyboard tab is highlighted. then uncheck the box where it says show character viewer. HTH On 21 Apr 2010, at 15:26, chad baker wrote: Hi lately when i start up my macbook i get the character pallet toolbar. Is there a way to get rid of it? thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Any way to delete tweets in Syrinx?
You can only delete your own tweets I believe. cmd-shift-D. Hope that helps :) On 21 Apr 2010, at 17:30, Jess wrote: Hi all, Is there any way to delete tweets using Syrinx? I've heard Qwitter can do it, but like using Syrinx, so can this be done? IF not, how can I get rid of old tweets? Thanks Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Article from the RNIB about the IPad
sarah, many, many users here and else where who are VI have set up their IPhones. It is really easy. Chances are the connector may not have been correctly attached or there may have been other things going on. The truth is, most of us who have the IPhone have gone through all of this with little assistance. Apple registered my simcard in store but I set it up through my own itunes, switched on VO and everything like that. And once I get the IPad I will do the same thing. No need to be nervous, few people have had the issue you speak of as far as I'm aware. On 21 Apr 2010, at 22:03, Sarah Alawami wrote: actually someone needed sightee asistence to set up there iphone as itunes kept giving them an error and it could not sybc thre device or something like that so I'm kind of nervous about doing this when it come stime for me to get mine. This was on a windows machine btw. On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:10 AM, marie Howarth wrote: I don't know if the tripple click of the home button is set to a default but Apple try to not second guess their customers so I think this would be kind of counter Apple. And not to mention, they would still complain if the triple tap brought up voice over when it was a low vision user who was using the phone. I seriously think this article is nit picking. And, like you say Dan, all of these devices need to be hooked up to ITunes to get them working. Someone also pointed out on twitter earlier that the insertion of a simcard into the IPhones and IPad 3Gs would not be accessible. I don't know about anywhere else, but Apple inserted my simcard into my IPhone and registered it for me in store when I got it. And with the introduction of the new Micro-sims, I don't want to be messing with something that small. I'll leave that to the experts thank you :) On 21 Apr 2010, at 08:30, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Yeah, agreed there Anne. Apple does have it right, and obviously these blindness organizations expect VO, and any accessibility features to be turned on by default. The iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad are accessible out of the box in my opinion, because with those devices, you have to hook them up to a computer anyway at first, before using them to sync your content, and register the device. Voiceover can be turned on in iTunes via the device's settings, so therefore I do consider that accessible out of the box. Maybe what they were getting at, is the fact that it'd be nice if the tripple-click home setting under accessibility was set to toggle Voiceover by default? Not sure, , but that's a possibility as to what they were getting at. On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, Yes, it was a pretty good article for the RNIB, but I had the same reaction as you did about it being a pity it wasn't accessible out of the box. They just can't admit that Apple has really got it right! Cheers, Anne On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I'm a bit confused here. It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it has to be activated before the iPad can be used. and It would have been a real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, this was not quite the case. These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird definition of out of the box. It's a mainstream product. That'd make it too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a product not geared specifically towards blind people. That's the only thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of the box that rNIB promotes readily? I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and negatives of the product which is good. The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. John On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18
Re: Mac OS 10.6.3 speed, Voiceover and browsing with Safari
Carolyn, I wonder where you're trying to open the applications folder? When I'm in finder, and hit cmd-N to open a new finder window, it automatically puts me in the home folder. My apps folder is not visible in this window. What I then do is stop interacting with the area and VO-left to the side-bar and interact and arrow down once. When re-interacting, I'm now in the scroll area. This is of course using the icons mode. If in table view you need to expand rather than open. Guess I'm trying to understand where it is you're having the issue in order to see if I can replicate it. And the cmd-shift-A command also works amazingly. This is my preferred choice but as I was saying, I'm trying to understand where you're attempting to vo-space on apps. On 20 Apr 2010, at 15:12, Carolyn wrote: I'll try that, Thanks. But it sure seems like some of the other commands are broken, or changed. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:00 AM Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.6.3 speed, Voiceover and browsing with Safari Hello Carolyn, Have you tried to open the Applications folder by using Command-Shift-A? It always works for me. Cheers, Anne On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Carolyn wrote: Nic: I continue to have the issue, where for example the applications folder won't open with VO/spacebar or command O. I thought it was just me, but there are at least 3 people now confirming this. I feel like I'm too much a rooky to explain this well to Apple at this point. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Vic To: MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.6.3 speed, Voiceover and browsing with Safari Thanks a lot, Carolyn, for confirming this. ch...@q.com wrote: Vic: I haven't seen this with safari, but I have noticed some new difficulties with VO focus. I am beginning to suspect that the latest update may have put a couple of inadvertent kinks into VO. I can press the applications button numerous times, and the folder won't open. It just keeps saying applications button pressed, but doesn't open the folder. I'm hoping someone who knows a lot more than I do can make sense of the new issues to Apple Accesibility better than I could. Carolyn On Apr 18, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Vic wrote: Hello all, After upgrading to the latest Mac OS 10.6.3 I am noticing that browsing with Safari is a bit slower than on previous 10.5 system. This is particularly noticeable on dynamic sites such as Yahoo! mail Classic or Facebook. For example, in many instances Voiceover would keep on saying Safari Busy and you are not able to do anything for a couple of seconds. Is anyone else is noticing this behavior or there issomething wrong with my system? I am running the new OS on the 13-inch Macbook Pro (one of the latest ones). Thanks for any input. Victor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
Re: webkit? (was Mac OS 10.6.3 speed, Voiceover and browsing with Safari)
Webkit has been a great support when problems have arisen in safari. A friend of mine was having issues with facebook last year, I recommended webkit and his problems were solved. And you never notice its there. :) On 20 Apr 2010, at 15:50, Chris Blouch wrote: Or just switch back to Safari for a few days if the problem makes things unusable. I've not had that experience though. CB Donna Goodin wrote: Thanks, Chris and Nic, this is good to know. I assume that once you've installed it, you can remove it if there are problems? Thanks, Donna On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yep. That's of course a drawback. But mostly, I've never had issues except that one time with multi-select list boxes, or the time when VO kept saying Selected edit. For a VoiceOVer user, the advantages have been greater rather than nonexistent. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I should note that what you're referring to is the nightly builds. There is some small amount of risk as the nightly builds incorporate the day's code changes which may or may not always work right. The advantage is you get all the latest fixes, features and performance enhancements. At certain points Apple then takes the webkit framework and migrates it to Safari so eventually it gets there. Once nice thing in the current webkit builds is a much improved support for ARIA which is markup that makes web widgets much more accessible. Not all sites are doing that yet but those that do get no special behavior in Safari. CB Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Webkit is the underlying framework for Safari. That is what is handling all HTML, at least on the Mac. A lot of the time, stability with Webkit is increased if you download the framework yourself and keep it up-to-date. The Apple version is far out of date. That's just a brief summary, but if something crashes, chances are that getting a new version of Webkit fixes it. http://www.webkit.org Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Sorry all, if this has already been discussed, but I've been really swamped the last couple of months, so I may have missed it. What is Webkit? Thanks, Donna On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yeah, I was wondering if you were talking to me for a second, even though I haven't commented at all. lol Well, I haven't noticed anything. In fact, Safari is better than ever, and with the installation of Webkit, it's faster than I can blink the proverbial eye. In fact, it's so blindingly fast that you don't even see it. That's true, even if I use the regular-type Safari, but it's a bit slower. Not by much, though. I suck at troubleshooting. This is because I never encounter the issues everyone else encounters. I feel left out. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Carolyn wrote: excuse me Vic. Too little sleep here, and I misheard your name. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Vic To: MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.6.3 speed, Voiceover and browsing with Safari Thanks a lot, Carolyn, for confirming this. ch...@q.com wrote: Vic: I haven't seen this with safari, but I have noticed some new difficulties with VO focus. I am beginning to suspect that the latest update may have put a couple of inadvertent kinks into VO. I can press the applications button numerous times, and the folder won't open. It just keeps saying applications button pressed, but doesn't open the folder. I'm hoping someone who knows a lot more than I do can make sense of the new issues to Apple Accesibility better than I could. Carolyn On Apr 18, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Vic wrote: Hello all, After upgrading to the latest Mac OS 10.6.3 I am noticing that browsing with Safari is a bit slower than on previous 10.5 system. This is particularly noticeable on dynamic sites such as Yahoo! mail Classic or Facebook. For example, in many instances Voiceover would keep on saying Safari Busy and you are not able to do anything for a couple of seconds. Is anyone else is noticing this behavior or there issomething wrong with my system? I am running the new OS on the 13-inch Macbook Pro (one of the latest ones). Thanks for any input. Victor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
