Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Alex Hall]

OIS seems to mostly help with stabilizing video, from what I've read. Holding 
still for a shot with an OCR app, you probably won't notice it as much.

To say that Apple could include OIS in their smaller devices but chooses not to 
seems groundless. We don't know if they could or not, because we don't know how 
the cameras work. What if the Plus is the only device to offer the necessary 
room? What if there are other technical reasons they couldn't do it last year 
or this year? Apple is always close-mouthed about technical challenges, so no 
one has a clue what the story is. Could this be just another way to drive sales 
toward the larger (and more expensive) phone? Certainly, and I'm not saying it 
couldn't be. However, there's also no reason to say that this is absolutely the 
case.

Other than that, what do you lose by going for the 6S over the Plus? More 
battery life, which is simply a consequence of not being able to cram as much 
battery into a smaller phone. No landscape mode for apps like Safari or Mail, 
which is a design decision--the smaller screen just couldn't show apps in the 
special landscape mode with enough room to let you operate them effectively. 
Remember that Apple is all about esthetics, and a bad user experience isn't 
worth it to them, so they will carefully evaluate things and only bring 
features that look good on big screens to smaller screens when they know they 
can do it well. Finally, you lose the extra room for app screens or braille 
input, which is, again, a consequence of a smaller screen.

Aside from OIS, both models are the same in all but screen/battery. The same 
camera, amount of ram, Touch ID sensor, flash, button placement, 
processor/coprocessor, wireless abilities, ports, NFC chip, and so on. I guess 
I'm not seeing the big deal; if you don't want the Plus, the smaller iPhone 6 
or 6S is still the same device, just smaller and lacking OIS. It's also $100 
less.
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 13:16, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Were you able to feel the bubbles? Interesting. I wonder why as it fits over 
> the glass of the phone. Well, I guess I will find out. LOL. It will not 
> matter to me unless it bubbles under my fingers, but it could drive a VI or 
> sighted person to drink I imagine. 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:46 PM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it 
> on for you.
> Note;  I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so 
> we took them off.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
>  
>  Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use 
> the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that 
> includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with 
> what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, 
> you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where 
> did you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>  
> What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
> like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. 
> By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a 
> screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and 
> movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been 
> out? Again, curious. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net 
> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
> I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
> TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize
> 
> If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
> I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
> exclusively only on the iPhone6S+
> 
> Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
> as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize
> 
> What a Concept
> 
> In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice 
> if they desir

RE: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[george b]

The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it on 
for you.

Note;  I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so we 
took them off.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

 

 Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use 
the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that 
includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with 
what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you 
will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did 
you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
<mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. By 
your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a screen 
protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and movement of 
the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been out? Again, 
curious. 

reggie & Lex


On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net 
<mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize

If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
exclusively only on the iPhone6S+

Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize

What a Concept

In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if 
they desire that feature, which is about $100 More

JustSaying
At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:



Anders,

I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I 
wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There 
was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the 
same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if 
they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones.

Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se> > wrote:

> 

> Hi!

> Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference 
> so don’t be angry.

> To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
> then i’d be as happy as can be.

> Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
> that so i don’t care much about it.

> We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
> english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.

> /A

>> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> >:

>> 

>> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
>> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people 
>> say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't 
>> say yes or no.

>> 

>> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started 
>> with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple will not 
>> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to 
>> change them.

>> 

>> Kawal.

>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

>> 

>> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how 
>> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with 
>> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it 
>> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I 
>> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small 
>> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you 
>> might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, 
>> and I had no

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Mary Otten]

Optical image stabilization isn't the only thing you get for that extra hundred 
dollars for the 6S plus. I don't know how it is accomplished. It is possible 
that they need the larger size to make it happen. I don't know how big the 
Samsung phones are either. But I do know that for me as a blind person, optical 
image stabilization is not necessary or useful.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
> TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize
> 
> If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
> I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
> exclusively only on the iPhone6S+
> 
> Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
> as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize
> 
> What a Concept
> 
> In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice 
> if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More
> 
> JustSaying
> At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
>> Anders,
>> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
>> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
>> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But 
>> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. 
>> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that 
>> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. 
>> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the 
>> larger phones.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal 
>> > preference so don’t be angry.
>> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod 
>> > touch then i’d be as happy as can be.
>> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
>> > that so i don’t care much about it.
>> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
>> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
>> > /A
>> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> >>
>> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille 
>> >> keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially 
>> >> sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have 
>> >> no sight, I can't say yes or no.
>> >>
>> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had 
>> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt 
>> >> Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know 
>> >> what they can do to change them.
>> >>
>> >> Kawal.
>> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see 
>> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, 
>> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I 
>> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. 
>> >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my 
>> >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and 
>> >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest 
>> >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested 
>> >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that 
>> >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning 
>> >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape 
>> >> mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward 
>> >> to.
>> >>
>> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a 
>> >> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might 
>> >> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite 
>> >> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just 
>> >> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S 
>> >> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the 
>> >> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple 
>> >> makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly 
>> >> surprised.
>> >>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do 
>> >>> wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference 
>> >>> in every day usage for VoiceOver 

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Mary Otten]

 Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use 
the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that 
includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with 
what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you 
will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did 
you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
> like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. 
> By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a 
> screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and 
> movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been 
> out? Again, curious. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
> TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize
> 
> If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
> I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
> exclusively only on the iPhone6S+
> 
> Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
> as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize
> 
> What a Concept
> 
> In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice 
> if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More
> 
> JustSaying
> At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
>> Anders,
>> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
>> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
>> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But 
>> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. 
>> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that 
>> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. 
>> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the 
>> larger phones.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal 
>> > preference so don’t be angry.
>> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod 
>> > touch then i’d be as happy as can be.
>> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
>> > that so i don’t care much about it.
>> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
>> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
>> > /A
>> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> >>
>> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille 
>> >> keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially 
>> >> sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have 
>> >> no sight, I can't say yes or no.
>> >>
>> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had 
>> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt 
>> >> Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know 
>> >> what they can do to change them.
>> >>
>> >> Kawal.
>> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see 
>> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, 
>> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I 
>> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. 
>> >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my 
>> >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and 
>> >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest 
>> >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested 
>> >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that 
>> >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning 
>> >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape 
>> >> mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward 
>> >> to.
>> >>
>> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a 
>> >> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might 
>> >> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite 
>> >> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just 
>> >> that: a 

RE: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[george b]

Lol and what does all of this have to do with the subject line

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:09
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

That's not true because Nokia has that feature on its VZW (NowRetired) 
LumiaIcon (Lumia929) & Samsung has it on their MobilePhones since launching the 
GalaxyS5 & Beyond (that includes the Note Series as well as the Galaxy S Series

the GalaxyS6 is about 5.1 Inches & the GalaxyS6Edge+ is about 5.7 Inches

And, as I recall, the iPhone6S+ is about 5.5 Inches & the iPhone6S is about 4.7 
Inches

Apple could have this feature on both modles, but it chooses not to

As I understand it, this feature is rumored to help in catching/viewing Video 
and/or taking pictures

I'm sure others, who have the iPhone6+ and/or 
iPhone6S+ can ChimeIn on it. I am particularly
interested to hear from TotallyBlind users of the 
iPhone6+ and/or iPhone6S+, and how it functions
for them. It would be Great if they had an
iPhone6 and/or iPhone6S to Compare TheDifferences With & WithOut the 
Optical Image Stablization feature

JustSaying
At 09:48 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
>Optical image stabilization isn't the only thing you get for that extra 
>hundred dollars for the 6S plus. I don't know how it is accomplished. 
>It is possible that they need the larger size to make it happen. I 
>don't know how big the Samsung phones are either. But I do know that 
>for me as a blind person, optical image stabilization is not necessary 
>or useful.
>Mary
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > I think they (they being Apple) should
> ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with TheSameSpecs with the 
> exception of TheirSize
> >
> > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of
> the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically Referrin'To the 
> Optical Image Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+
> >
> > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on
> both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its
> GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize
> >
> > What a Concept
> >
> > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its
> customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that feature, 
> which is about $100 More
> >
> > JustSaying
> > At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
> >> Anders,
> >> I agree with you about phone size. I really
> would like to have something the same size as the 5S. The fourss, or 
> the iPod touch, which is the same dimensions I think as far as width 
> and height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish they would do 
> something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There was a 
> rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was 
> the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not 
> happened. Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same 
> features as the larger phones.
> >> Mary
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders
> Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi!
> >> > Well, i might say something stupid now but
> this is my own personal preference so don̢۪t be angry.
>.
> >> > To me i really whish that if the iphone
> could be as small as the ipod touch then i̢۪d be as happy as can be.
>.
> >> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing
> nearly impossible but i never use that so i don̢۪t care much about it.
>.
> >> > We don̢۪t have grade 2 in swedish
> anymore and we we don̢۪t learn it for english  either so thats one 
>of tf the reasons i don̢۪t use braille keyboards.
>.
> >> > /A
> >> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he
> needs to use the braille keyboard then there is more room to spread 
> your fingers.  Partially sighted people say to me that they can read 
> the screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no.
> >> >>
> >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design
> hadn't really changed and I had started with the 4 so was looking for 
> something different.  No doubt Apple will not be changing the design 
> of their phones as I don't know what they can do to change them.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kawal.
> >> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> >> >&g

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Regina Alvarado]

What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. By 
your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a screen 
protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and movement of 
the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been out? Again, 
curious. 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin  wrote:

I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize

If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
exclusively only on the iPhone6S+

Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize

What a Concept

In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if 
they desire that feature, which is about $100 More

JustSaying
At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
> Anders,
> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But 
> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. 
> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that 
> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. 
> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the 
> larger phones.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal 
> > preference so don’t be angry.
> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
> > then i’d be as happy as can be.
> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
> > that so i don’t care much about it.
> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
> > /A
> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
> >>
> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
> >> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people 
> >> say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I 
> >> can't say yes or no.
> >>
> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had 
> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple 
> >> will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they 
> >> can do to change them.
> >>
> >> Kawal.
> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see 
> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, 
> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I 
> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. 
> >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my 
> >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and 
> >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest 
> >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested 
> >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that 
> >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning 
> >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape 
> >> mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward 
> >> to.
> >>
> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a 
> >> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might 
> >> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite 
> >> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just 
> >> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S 
> >> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the 
> >> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes 
> >> both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised.
> >>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do 
> >>> wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in 
> >>> every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks 
> >>> who use Braille screen input, the larger 

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Regina Alvarado]

I bought it in the Sprint store. It is wonderful. I would say Amazon or other 
places have them, though. No more stuck fingers. In fact, I find myself tapping 
even lighter on the screen. Do not know why this is so, however. It just 
happened. It cost about 40 dollars so it is more expensive, but I will always 
have one. 
On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use 
the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that 
includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with 
what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you 
will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did 
you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
> like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. 
> By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a 
> screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and 
> movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been 
> out? Again, curious. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
> TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize
> 
> If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
> I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
> exclusively only on the iPhone6S+
> 
> Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
> as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize
> 
> What a Concept
> 
> In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice 
> if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More
> 
> JustSaying
> At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
>> Anders,
>> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
>> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
>> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But 
>> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. 
>> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that 
>> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. 
>> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the 
>> larger phones.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal 
>> > preference so don’t be angry.
>> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod 
>> > touch then i’d be as happy as can be.
>> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
>> > that so i don’t care much about it.
>> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
>> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
>> > /A
>> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> >>
>> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille 
>> >> keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially 
>> >> sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have 
>> >> no sight, I can't say yes or no.
>> >>
>> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had 
>> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt 
>> >> Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know 
>> >> what they can do to change them.
>> >>
>> >> Kawal.
>> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see 
>> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, 
>> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I 
>> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. 
>> >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my 
>> >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and 
>> >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest 
>> >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested 
>> >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that 
>> >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning 
>> >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape 
>> >> mode for apps, and image 

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Mary Otten]

My carrier store does not have glass screen protectors. That is T-Mobile. I got 
one for my 5S2 years ago from the Verizon store. I have seen one online made by 
anger, and sold from Amazon via anchor direct. I am debating whether or not I 
want to get another one.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:46 AM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it 
> on for you.
> Note;  I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so 
> we took them off.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
>  
>  Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use 
> the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that 
> includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with 
> what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, 
> you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where 
> did you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
> like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. 
> By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a 
> screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and 
> movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been 
> out? Again, curious. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
> TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize
> 
> If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
> I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
> exclusively only on the iPhone6S+
> 
> Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
> as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize
> 
> What a Concept
> 
> In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice 
> if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More
> 
> JustSaying
> At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
> 
> Anders,
> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But 
> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. 
> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that 
> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. 
> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the 
> larger phones.
> Mary
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi!
> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal 
> > preference so don’t be angry.
> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
> > then i’d be as happy as can be.
> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
> > that so i don’t care much about it.
> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
> > /A
> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com>:
> >> 
> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
> >> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people 
> >> say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I 
> >> can't say yes or no.
> >> 
> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had 
> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple 
> >> will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they 
> >> can do to change them.
> >> 
> >> Kawal.
> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I don't yet hav

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Robin]

That's not true because Nokia has that feature on 
its VZW (NowRetired) LumiaIcon (Lumia929) & 
Samsung has it on their MobilePhones since 
launching the GalaxyS5 & Beyond (that includes 
the Note Series as well as the Galaxy S Series


the GalaxyS6 is about 5.1 Inches & the GalaxyS6Edge+ is about 5.7 Inches

And, as I recall, the iPhone6S+ is about 5.5 
Inches & the iPhone6S is about 4.7 Inches


Apple could have this feature on both modles, but it chooses not to

As I understand it, this feature is rumored to 
help in catching/viewing Video and/or taking pictures


I'm sure others, who have the iPhone6+ and/or 
iPhone6S+ can ChimeIn on it. I am particularly 
interested to hear from TotallyBlind users of the 
iPhone6+ and/or iPhone6S+, and how it functions 
for them. It would be Great if they had an 
iPhone6 and/or iPhone6S to Compare 
TheDifferences With & WithOut the Optical Image Stablization feature


JustSaying
At 09:48 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
Optical image stabilization isn't the only thing 
you get for that extra hundred dollars for the 
6S plus. I don't know how it is accomplished. It 
is possible that they need the larger size to 
make it happen. I don't know how big the Samsung 
phones are either. But I do know that for me as 
a blind person, optical image stabilization is not necessary or useful.

Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Robin  wrote:
>
> I think they (they being Apple) should 
ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize

>
> If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of 
the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm 
specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image 
Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+

>
> Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on 
both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its 
GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize

>
> What a Concept
>
> In my opinion, Apple is requiring its 
customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they 
desire that feature, which is about $100 More

>
> JustSaying
> At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
>> Anders,
>> I agree with you about phone size. I really 
would like to have something the same size as 
the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is 
the same dimensions I think as far as width and 
height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish 
they would do something for those of us with 
smaller hands. Oh well. There was a rumor that 
said they were going to come out with a new one 
that was the same size as the 5S. But so far, 
as you know that has not happened. Plus, if 
they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones.

>> Mary
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders 
Holmberg  wrote:

>> >
>> > Hi!
>> > Well, i might say something stupid now but 
this is my own personal preference so don̢۪t be angry.

.
>> > To me i really whish that if the iphone 
could be as small as the ipod touch then i̢۪d be as happy as can be.

.
>> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing 
nearly impossible but i never use that so i don̢۪t care much about it.

.
>> > We don̢۪t have grade 2 in swedish 
anymore and we we don̢۪t learn it for english 
either so thats one of tf the reasons i don̢۪t use braille keyboards.

.
>> > /A
>> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> >>
>> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he 
needs to use the braille keyboard then there is 
more room to spread your fingers.  Partially 
sighted people say to me that they can read the 
screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no.

>> >>
>> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design 
hadn't really changed and I had started with 
the 4 so was looking for something 
different.  No doubt Apple will not be changing 
the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to change them.

>> >>
>> >> Kawal.
>> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation 
for upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus 
would fit into my life. I have a cardboard 
cutout of a Plus, with some popsicle sticks 
taped to the back to give it structure. I 
carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 
to it for the next day. Both days, I was amazed 
to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in 
my hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin 
and light, and is longer and narrower than you 
might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets 
it rest in my pocket better, and I had no 
problems with it the two days I tested it with 
my model. While not an actual phone, this gave 
me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, 
which is good as it's the one I was leaning 
towards. The better battery life, larger 
braille input area, landscape mode for apps, 
and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to.

>> >>
>> >> You can easily print out the same 
template I used, and carry around 

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Regina Alvarado]

Were you able to feel the bubbles? Interesting. I wonder why as it fits over 
the glass of the phone. Well, I guess I will find out. LOL. It will not matter 
to me unless it bubbles under my fingers, but it could drive a VI or sighted 
person to drink I imagine. 
On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:46 PM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:

The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it on 
for you.
Note;  I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so we 
took them off.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
 
 Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use 
the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that 
includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with 
what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you 
will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did 
you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:

 
What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. By 
your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a screen 
protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and movement of 
the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been out? Again, 
curious. 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:

I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize

If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
exclusively only on the iPhone6S+

Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize

What a Concept

In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if 
they desire that feature, which is about $100 More

JustSaying
At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:

Anders,
I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I 
wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There 
was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the 
same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if 
they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones.
Mary
 
Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference 
> so don’t be angry.
> To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
> then i’d be as happy as can be.
> Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
> that so i don’t care much about it.
> We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
> english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
> /A
>> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com>:
>> 
>> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
>> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people 
>> say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't 
>> say yes or no.
>> 
>> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started 
>> with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple will not 
>> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to 
>> change them.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how 
>> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with 
>> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it 
>> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I 
>> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small 
>> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you 
>> might imagine. Not b

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Robin]

I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut 
with a couple of iPhones with 
TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize


If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the 
features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically 
Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which 
is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+


Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both 
its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its 
GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize


What a Concept

In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers 
ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that 
feature, which is about $100 More


JustSaying
At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:

Anders,
I agree with you about phone size. I really 
would like to have something the same size as 
the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is 
the same dimensions I think as far as width and 
height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish 
they would do something for those of us with 
smaller hands. Oh well. There was a rumor that 
said they were going to come out with a new one 
that was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as 
you know that has not happened. Plus, if they 
do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones.

Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Well, i might say something stupid now but 
this is my own personal preference so don’t be angry.
> To me i really whish that if the iphone could 
be as small as the ipod touch then i’d be as happy as can be.
> Ofcourse this will make braille writing 
nearly impossible but i never use that so i don’t care much about it.
> We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore 
and we don’t learn it for english either so 
thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.

> /A
>> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
>>
>> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he 
needs to use the braille keyboard then there is 
more room to spread your fingers.  Partially 
sighted people say to me that they can read the 
screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no.

>>
>> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't 
really changed and I had started with the 4 so 
was looking for something different.  No doubt 
Apple will not be changing the design of their 
phones as I don't know what they can do to change them.

>>
>> Kawal.
>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>
>> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for 
upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus would 
fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of 
a Plus, with some popsicle sticks taped to the 
back to give it structure. I carried it for a 
day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the 
next day. Both days, I was amazed to find that 
the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but 
small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, 
and is longer and narrower than you might 
imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it 
rest in my pocket better, and I had no problems 
with it the two days I tested it with my model. 
While not an actual phone, this gave me 
confidence that the Plus will be just fine, 
which is good as it's the one I was leaning 
towards. The better battery life, larger 
braille input area, landscape mode for apps, 
and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to.

>>
>> You can easily print out the same template I 
used, and carry around a cardboard version of a 
Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it 
might require minor adjustments in position or 
grip, but there are definite advantages and I 
encourage you to consider the change to a Plus 
as just that: a change, rather than looking for 
something the same size as the 5S but with 
better internals. Of course, if the plusses 
don't outweigh the minuses for you, there's 
nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple 
makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; 
you might be pleasantly surprised.

>>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
>>>
>>> Whether something is too big or not is 
obviously subjective, but I do wonder how the 
size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a 
difference in every day usage for VoiceOver 
users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who 
use Braille screen input, the larger screen 
real estate you have to work with might make 
typing easier. On the other hand, are folks 
finding the phones easy to carry when out and 
about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? 
I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I 
don’t even need to take it out of my pocket 
to use the touch screen. I have a transit 
widget that I check to monitor bus departure 
times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and 
Google Maps as well. And of course, I can 
listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, 
too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my 
pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or 
briefcase, that would be quite a bit less 
convenient for me. How do you folks 

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Mary Otten]

Anders,
I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I 
wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There 
was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the 
same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if 
they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference 
> so don’t be angry.
> To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
> then i’d be as happy as can be.
> Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
> that so i don’t care much about it.
> We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for english 
> either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
> /A
>> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> 
>> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
>> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people 
>> say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't 
>> say yes or no.
>> 
>> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started 
>> with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple will not 
>> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to 
>> change them.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how 
>> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with 
>> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it 
>> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I 
>> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small 
>> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you 
>> might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, 
>> and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While 
>> not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just 
>> fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better 
>> battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image 
>> stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to.
>> 
>> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a 
>> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might 
>> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite 
>> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just 
>> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S 
>> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the 
>> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes 
>> both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised.
>>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do 
>>> wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in 
>>> every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks 
>>> who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to 
>>> work with might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding 
>>> the phones easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in 
>>> your pockets? I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need 
>>> to take it out of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit 
>>> widget that I check to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like 
>>> BlindSquare and Google Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music 
>>> or audiobooks while commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my 
>>> pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite 
>>> a bit less convenient for me. How do you folks feel about this—for those 
>>> who’ve used the larger phones for a year now, do you eventually adjust to 
>>> the larger screen size?
>>> 
>>> Grant
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Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference 
so don’t be angry.
To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
then i’d be as happy as can be.
Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use that 
so i don’t care much about it.
We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for english 
either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
/A
> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
> 
> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people say 
> to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't say 
> yes or no.
> 
> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started 
> with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple will not 
> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to 
> change them.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how 
> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with 
> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it for 
> a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was 
> amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my 
> pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might 
> imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, and I 
> had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While not an 
> actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, which 
> is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better battery life, 
> larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image stabilization 
> are all things I'm looking forward to.
> 
> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a 
> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might 
> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite 
> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just that: 
> a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S but with 
> better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the minuses for 
> you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes both sizes. 
> Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised.
>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
>> 
>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder 
>> how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day 
>> usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use 
>> Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with 
>> might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones 
>> easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I 
>> use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out 
>> of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check 
>> to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google 
>> Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while 
>> commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry 
>> it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for 
>> me. How do you folks feel about this—for those who’ve used the larger phones 
>> for a year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size?
>> 
>> Grant
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Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes its in the eu.
Well i might try it later to day.
/A
> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
> 
> You could call the UK online store as they say they serve Europe as they are 
> based in Ireland Cork.  We have to call that store if we want to order 
> online.  I think Sweden  is in the EU? 
> On 26 Sep 2015, at 23:29, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> No i don’t know anything about it.
> I wonder if one could order from the uk and get it to sweden?
> /A
>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:34 skrev Krister Ekstrom :
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> Have you heard anything about when the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will be available 
>> here in Sweden?
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:17 skrev Anders Holmberg :
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I am about to order an iphone 6s.
>>> However is it very big?
>>> I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me.
>>> I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus.
>>> But i guess thats just my thoughts.
>>> No judgement behind it.
>>> /A
 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten :
 
 Hi all,
 I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the 
 speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to 
 be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I 
 noticed the same thing on my friends six as  compared to my 5S.
 Mary
 
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Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
True.
But i guess we have to get use to bigger phones.
In the early 2000 the phones got smaller and now suddenly they growing bigger 
in size again.
/A
> 28 sep. 2015 kl. 17:14 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> Anders,
> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But 
> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. 
> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that 
> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. 
> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the 
> larger phones.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal 
>> preference so don’t be angry.
>> To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
>> then i’d be as happy as can be.
>> Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
>> that so i don’t care much about it.
>> We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for english 
>> either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
>> /A
>>> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
>>> 
>>> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
>>> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people 
>>> say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I 
>>> can't say yes or no.
>>> 
>>> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started 
>>> with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple will not 
>>> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to 
>>> change them.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how 
>>> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with 
>>> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it 
>>> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I 
>>> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small 
>>> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you 
>>> might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket 
>>> better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my 
>>> model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus 
>>> will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The 
>>> better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, 
>>> and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to.
>>> 
>>> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a 
>>> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might 
>>> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite 
>>> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just 
>>> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S 
>>> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the 
>>> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes 
>>> both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised.
 On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
 
 Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do 
 wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in 
 every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks 
 who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to 
 work with might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding 
 the phones easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in 
 your pockets? I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even 
 need to take it out of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit 
 widget that I check to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like 
 BlindSquare and Google Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music 
 or audiobooks while commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my 
 pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite 
 a bit less convenient for me. How do you folks feel about this—for those 
 who’ve used the larger phones for a year now, do you eventually adjust to 
 the larger screen size?
 
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Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well i do hope though that the battery last longer on n iphone 6s than on my 5S.
Even though its been replaced.
/A
> 28 sep. 2015 kl. 21:18 skrev Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com>:
> 
> OIS seems to mostly help with stabilizing video, from what I've read. Holding 
> still for a shot with an OCR app, you probably won't notice it as much.
> 
> To say that Apple could include OIS in their smaller devices but chooses not 
> to seems groundless. We don't know if they could or not, because we don't 
> know how the cameras work. What if the Plus is the only device to offer the 
> necessary room? What if there are other technical reasons they couldn't do it 
> last year or this year? Apple is always close-mouthed about technical 
> challenges, so no one has a clue what the story is. Could this be just 
> another way to drive sales toward the larger (and more expensive) phone? 
> Certainly, and I'm not saying it couldn't be. However, there's also no reason 
> to say that this is absolutely the case.
> 
> Other than that, what do you lose by going for the 6S over the Plus? More 
> battery life, which is simply a consequence of not being able to cram as much 
> battery into a smaller phone. No landscape mode for apps like Safari or Mail, 
> which is a design decision--the smaller screen just couldn't show apps in the 
> special landscape mode with enough room to let you operate them effectively. 
> Remember that Apple is all about esthetics, and a bad user experience isn't 
> worth it to them, so they will carefully evaluate things and only bring 
> features that look good on big screens to smaller screens when they know they 
> can do it well. Finally, you lose the extra room for app screens or braille 
> input, which is, again, a consequence of a smaller screen.
> 
> Aside from OIS, both models are the same in all but screen/battery. The same 
> camera, amount of ram, Touch ID sensor, flash, button placement, 
> processor/coprocessor, wireless abilities, ports, NFC chip, and so on. I 
> guess I'm not seeing the big deal; if you don't want the Plus, the smaller 
> iPhone 6 or 6S is still the same device, just smaller and lacking OIS. It's 
> also $100 less.
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 13:16, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Were you able to feel the bubbles? Interesting. I wonder why as it fits over 
>> the glass of the phone. Well, I guess I will find out. LOL. It will not 
>> matter to me unless it bubbles under my fingers, but it could drive a VI or 
>> sighted person to drink I imagine. 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:46 PM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it 
>> on for you.
>> Note;  I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so 
>> we took them off.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
>>  
>>  Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you 
>> use the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and 
>> that includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go 
>> with what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too 
>> big, you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. 
>> Where did you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
>> like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. 
>> By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a 
>> screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and 
>> movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been 
>> out? Again, curious. 
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think they (they being Apple) should Com

Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

You could call the UK online store as they say they serve Europe as they are 
based in Ireland Cork.  We have to call that store if we want to order online.  
I think Sweden  is in the EU? 
On 26 Sep 2015, at 23:29, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
No i don’t know anything about it.
I wonder if one could order from the uk and get it to sweden?
/A
> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:34 skrev Krister Ekstrom :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> Have you heard anything about when the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will be available 
> here in Sweden?
> /Krister
> 
>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:17 skrev Anders Holmberg :
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I am about to order an iphone 6s.
>> However is it very big?
>> I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me.
>> I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus.
>> But i guess thats just my thoughts.
>> No judgement behind it.
>> /A
>>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the 
>>> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to 
>>> be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I 
>>> noticed the same thing on my friends six as  compared to my 5S.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Robin]

You wanna know what Apple WillDo ToChange TheLook 
of its iPhones ... simply Look at TheDesign of 
Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge & GalaxyS6Edge+


I'm specifically Referrin'To the CurvedEdges

Apple appeared to Copy the Placement of the 
PowerKey by MovingIt from the TopCenter-Right to 
the RightSide as illustrated on Samsung'sGalaxy 
MobilePhones beginning with the GalaxyS5 MayBe even the GalaxyS4


I'm not sure if Apple will do this, I just simply 
predicting it will happenn BasedOn PastExploits


At 05:03 AM 9/27/2015, you wrote:
I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs 
to use the braille keyboard then there is more 
room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted 
people say to me that they can read the screen 
better.  As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no.


I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't 
really changed and I had started with the 4 so 
was looking for something different.  No doubt 
Apple will not be changing the design of their 
phones as I don't know what they can do to change them.


Kawal.
On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:

I don't yet have one, but in preparation for 
upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus would 
fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a 
Plus, with some popsicle sticks taped to the 
back to give it structure. I carried it for a 
day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the 
next day. Both days, I was amazed to find that 
the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but 
small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, 
and is longer and narrower than you might 
imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it 
rest in my pocket better, and I had no problems 
with it the two days I tested it with my model. 
While not an actual phone, this gave me 
confidence that the Plus will be just fine, 
which is good as it's the one I was leaning 
towards. The better battery life, larger braille 
input area, landscape mode for apps, and image 
stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to.


You can easily print out the same template I 
used, and carry around a cardboard version of a 
Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it 
might require minor adjustments in position or 
grip, but there are definite advantages and I 
encourage you to consider the change to a Plus 
as just that: a change, rather than looking for 
something the same size as the 5S but with 
better internals. Of course, if the plusses 
don't outweigh the minuses for you, there's 
nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple 
makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; 
you might be pleasantly surprised.

> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
>
> Whether something is too big or not is 
obviously subjective, but I do wonder how the 
size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a 
difference in every day usage for VoiceOver 
users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who 
use Braille screen input, the larger screen 
real estate you have to work with might make 
typing easier. On the other hand, are folks 
finding the phones easy to carry when out and 
about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? 
I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I 
don’t even need to take it out of my pocket 
to use the touch screen. I have a transit 
widget that I check to monitor bus departure 
times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and 
Google Maps as well. And of course, I can 
listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, 
too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my 
pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or 
briefcase, that would be quite a bit less 
convenient for me. How do you folks feel about 
this—for those whoo’ve used the larger phones 
for a year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size?

>
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Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

It's definitely just your thought, yes, as I have a 6+, and I wouldn't ask 
for anything smaller.  I have a 5S as well as a backup phone, and to me, 
that thing feels dinky in my hand.  It just feels really really teeny.  Kind 
of reminds me of holding an old cassette tape in my hand.  E! Yikes!


Chris.

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To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s


Hi!
I am about to order an iphone 6s.
However is it very big?
I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me.
I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus.
But i guess thats just my thoughts.
No judgement behind it.
/A

26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com>:

Hi all,
I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the 
speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to 
be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I 
noticed the same thing on my friends six as  compared to my 5S.

Mary

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Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Mary Otten]

If you have seen the iPhone 6, the 6S is a sensually the same. There is 
apparently a very minor difference, but unless you held the two phones right 
together, you would not know it. I agree, that the 6+ is too large at least for 
me. I know many people like it because of the bigger battery. But the size is a 
dealbreaker in my opinion.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I am about to order an iphone 6s.
> However is it very big?
> I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me.
> I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus.
> But i guess thats just my thoughts.
> No judgement behind it.
> /A
>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the 
>> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be 
>> more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I 
>> noticed the same thing on my friends six as  compared to my 5S.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi Anders,
Have you heard anything about when the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will be available here 
in Sweden?
/Krister

> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:17 skrev Anders Holmberg :
> 
> Hi!
> I am about to order an iphone 6s.
> However is it very big?
> I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me.
> I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus.
> But i guess thats just my thoughts.
> No judgement behind it.
> /A
>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the 
>> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be 
>> more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I 
>> noticed the same thing on my friends six as  compared to my 5S.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No i don’t know anything about it.
I wonder if one could order from the uk and get it to sweden?
/A
> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:34 skrev Krister Ekstrom :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> Have you heard anything about when the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will be available 
> here in Sweden?
> /Krister
> 
>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:17 skrev Anders Holmberg :
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I am about to order an iphone 6s.
>> However is it very big?
>> I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me.
>> I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus.
>> But i guess thats just my thoughts.
>> No judgement behind it.
>> /A
>>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the 
>>> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to 
>>> be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I 
>>> noticed the same thing on my friends six as  compared to my 5S.
>>> Mary
>>> 
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Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I am about to order an iphone 6s.
However is it very big?
I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me.
I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus.
But i guess thats just my thoughts.
No judgement behind it.
/A
> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> Hi all,
> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the 
> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be 
> more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I 
> noticed the same thing on my friends six as  compared to my 5S.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Grant]

Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder 
how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day 
usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use Braille 
screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with might make 
typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones easy to carry 
when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I use my iPhone 5S 
on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out of my pocket to use 
the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check to monitor bus departure 
times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google Maps as well. And of course, 
I can listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry 
the phone in my pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or briefcase, that 
would be quite a bit less convenient for me. How do you folks feel about 
this—for those who’ve used the larger phones for a year now, do you eventually 
adjust to the larger screen size?

Grant

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size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Alex Hall]

I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how the 
Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with some 
popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it for a day, 
then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was amazed to 
find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my pocket. 
It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might imagine. 
Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, and I had no 
problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While not an actual 
phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, which is good 
as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better battery life, larger braille 
input area, landscape mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm 
looking forward to.

You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a cardboard 
version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might require minor 
adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite advantages and I 
encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just that: a change, rather 
than looking for something the same size as the 5S but with better internals. 
Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the minuses for you, there's nothing 
wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot 
though; you might be pleasantly surprised.
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
> 
> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder 
> how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day 
> usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use 
> Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with 
> might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones 
> easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I 
> use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out of 
> my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check to 
> monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google Maps 
> as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, 
> too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry it in a 
> backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for me. How 
> do you folks feel about this—for those who’ve used the larger phones for a 
> year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size?
> 
> Grant
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Improved speaker on iPhone 6s

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the speaker 
is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be more base. 
I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I noticed the same 
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Mary

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