Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:

I think the only case where time is a problem is if the
host sends me a cookie and then daylight saving time/summer time ends
and I send the cookie containing the timestamp which is now later that
the current host time.

On second thought, even that is not an issue as the timestamp is in UTC.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

2005-11-10 Thread Bob Bales
I found my problem. I use eTrust for firewall and other security products. I
turned off the firewall tonight and voila, the problem went away. So, now I
just have to try and figure out what in eTrust is stumping my butt. Thanks
to Mark and everybody else who tried to help.

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[Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

2005-11-08 Thread Bob Bales
I am a novice at this, so be easy. I am running mailman for a friend of
mine. I loaded it from the cpanel of the host. The message system seems to
be working fine. The Admin Panel is giving me fits. I can sign in and make a
change, when I press to submit the changes it takes me back to the sign in
page, I re-sign in and the chnage has not taken place. Subscibers have the
sane problem when they try to sitch from or to non-digets/digets. Anybody
have some help out there? I'm pulling my hair out right now.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bob Bales wrote:

I am a novice at this, so be easy. I am running mailman for a friend of
mine. I loaded it from the cpanel of the host. The message system seems to
be working fine. The Admin Panel is giving me fits. I can sign in and make a
change, when I press to submit the changes it takes me back to the sign in
page, I re-sign in and the chnage has not taken place. Subscibers have the
sane problem when they try to sitch from or to non-digets/digets. Anybody
have some help out there? I'm pulling my hair out right now.

This is typically caused by not accepting cookies in your browser, but
since it appears to be a global issue, it may have something to do
with the server's sending/receiving of cookies.

Also see
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp
and
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-11-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 Mark == Mark A Lombardo Mark.A.Lombardo writes:

Mark I must be coming across as really thick and stupid.

Not at all, although it's maddening all around to run into this kind
of communication block.  Mark S is usually very successful at
explaining but let me try from a somewhat different angle.

Mark If I have set the tag to reply to poster, and I hit reply,
Mark then there is no way of mailman knowing which email address
Mark that came from

That's right.  It is not possible to prevent people who otherwise have
permission to post from posting replies, except by having someone
approve or deny every message.  So mailman doesn't try.

Mark How do I set that the reply only comes to the person that
Mark posted the mail, and not the list, I thought setting the
Mark reply to poster it would only send the mal to the person who
Mark posted, and not the rest of the list. Is this not correct?

No, but that's not your fault; that's precisely what the English says.
The problem is that there is no standard provision in email for
requesting personal replies.  There is a non-standard header called
Mail-Followup-To, but only a minority of MUAs (MUA = message user
agent, or mail program) respect it.  As far as I know none of the ones
commonly used on Windows or the Mac do.

The best we can guarantee is that Mailman won't encourage mail to go
to the list.  This is done by _not_ setting Reply-To.  That is all
that Mailman's reply-to-poster option accomplishes.  In theory,
Mailman could set Reply-To to be equal to From, but if Reply-To is
missing, personal replies are normally sent to From.  So that's no
help.

Your users must be using reply-to-all (or perhaps reply-to-list) out
of habit, and those commands are explicitly designed to send to the
mailing list too.  The presence of Reply-To is not going to override
the user's choice.

It _is_ fairly easy to strongly discourage personal replies by setting
Reply-To to the mailing list.  So the situation is asymmetric in that
sense.

Mark So what happens if someone wants to reply to the whole list,
Mark and not just me, and I have the explicit email address set.

As Mark S explained, there is nothing that you (as original author) or
Mailman can do about this.  Whatever you set, some repliers will want
their particular reply to go to the other place.  It is always
possible to force this, simply by directly entering the desired
address(es).  A full-featured MUA will make it convenient by providing
several commands which send replies to different places, but not
everybody uses those mail programs.  And of course the MUA doesn't
know when the user means to invoke reply-to-all, and when it's a
mistake born of habit.  :-(

While there's nothing wrong with what you want, in fact all of us in
Mailman strong support protecting privacy, it turns out that only a
very small minority of mailing lists have the need for privacy that
yours does.  In fact, the demand for a way to force replies to be
public is much more common, and much stronger.

So not only doesn't Mailman have the feature you want, but I don't
know of any mailing list manager that does.  And I think it is
impossible to implement reliably; there would always be many leaks.

All you can really do is strongly encourage your users to use the
personal reply function of their MUA, or (as suggested before) use a
blind CC to address the list and set full personalization on.

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[Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark.A.Lombardo
Please can someone help me? I have set a distribution list using mailman and
my isp. I have set the replies to poster, but the whole list is receiving
the replies, and it is annoying members of the list. Please people have
discussed the confidentially issue.


Kind Regards

Mark


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 08:53:03AM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:
Please can someone help me? I have set a distribution list using mailman and
my isp. I have set the replies to poster, but the whole list is receiving
the replies, and it is annoying members of the list. Please people have
discussed the confidentially issue.

Two words: User education.

And set the reply-to header setting appropriately (i.e. do *not* set
reply-to to the list), if you usually want direct replies to poster.
Oh I read you have already done that.

Then... User education (they should use the reply to sender function,
not group reply or list reply in their MUA if they want their replies to
be private).

If they aren't supposed at all to send to the list, deny them the right
to do so (possible on the web interface). Or set the list to moderated.

Kind Regards

Mark

Kind regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark.A.Lombardo
MUA = ?


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From:
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Sent: 28 October 2005 10:39
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

Hello!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 08:53:03AM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:
Please can someone help me? I have set a distribution list using mailman
and
my isp. I have set the replies to poster, but the whole list is receiving
the replies, and it is annoying members of the list. Please people have
discussed the confidentially issue.

Two words: User education.

And set the reply-to header setting appropriately (i.e. do *not* set
reply-to to the list), if you usually want direct replies to poster.
Oh I read you have already done that.

Then... User education (they should use the reply to sender function,
not group reply or list reply in their MUA if they want their replies to
be private).

If they aren't supposed at all to send to the list, deny them the right
to do so (possible on the web interface). Or set the list to moderated.

Kind Regards

Mark

Kind regards,

Hannah.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 12:40:14PM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:
MUA = ?

Mail user agent.

Kind regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 12:39:27PM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:
It they hit reply, it is redirecting the email to the list, this should not
be the case.  I have set the option to poster, so why does it post to the
list.

Perhaps the original poster set reply-to to the list address.

The setting poster does just not add an own reply to, but it leaves
original reply-to headers alone, AFAIK.

Kind regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark.A.Lombardo
Hello,

Please for novices around her don't use jargon.  I sent the original
message, and the message stating reply to poster.

Kind Regards

Mark

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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

Hello!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 12:39:27PM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:
It they hit reply, it is redirecting the email to the list, this should not
be the case.  I have set the option to poster, so why does it post to the
list.

Perhaps the original poster set reply-to to the list address.

The setting poster does just not add an own reply to, but it leaves
original reply-to headers alone, AFAIK.

Kind regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark.A.Lombardo
Hi Hannah,


I apologise for my comments earlier on. I am getting very little support
from my service provider on this issue. I am getting complaints from users
of the list. As far as I was aware I had set it up, so what ever reply they
hit it will direct the reply to the poster, and not to the list.

Kind Regards

Mark


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Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

Hello!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 01:11:34PM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:
Hello,

Please for novices around her don't use jargon.

You get what you pay for.

And I think one can expect for people to educate themselves.

[...]

Kind regards,

Hannah - slightly annoyed by that attitude of entitlement.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:

As far as I was aware I had set it up, so what ever reply they
hit it will direct the reply to the poster, and not to the list.

The only way to do this is to enable Full Personalization for the list
which you may not be able to do (It requires that the Mailman
installation have OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION set to Yes), or to
post with the list address as a Bcc:. Otherwise, the list posting
address will be in the To: or Cc: of the received post and 'reply all'
will include it.

To post with the list in Bcc: you need to turn off
require_explicit_destination on Privacy options...-Recipient filters
or post with an Approved: header, or the post will be held for
approval.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark.A.Lombardo
Hi Mark,

 

I am totally confused, can you explain this please?


Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended
for most mailing lists.


Poster

This list

Explicit address


 

 

 

Please can you explain this bit, for me, if this is set to poster, why does
everyone get the reply.

 

Mark

 

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From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 October 2005 18:04
To: Mark.A.Lombardo; 'Hannah Schroeter'
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

 

Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:

 

As far as I was aware I had set it up, so what ever reply they

hit it will direct the reply to the poster, and not to the list.

 

The only way to do this is to enable Full Personalization for the list

which you may not be able to do (It requires that the Mailman

installation have OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION set to Yes), or to

post with the list address as a Bcc:. Otherwise, the list posting

address will be in the To: or Cc: of the received post and 'reply all'

will include it.

 

To post with the list in Bcc: you need to turn off

require_explicit_destination on Privacy options...-Recipient filters

or post with an Approved: header, or the post will be held for

approval.

 

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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

 

 

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:

I am totally confused, can you explain this please?


Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended
for most mailing lists.


Poster

This list

Explicit address


 

 

 

Please can you explain this bit, for me, if this is set to poster, why does
everyone get the reply.


When a user tells his/her MUA (mail reader, email client) to 'reply' to
the current message, the MUA is supposed to direct the reply to the
address(es) in the Reply-To: header if any or to the address in From:
if there is no Reply-To:.

If the above is set to 'poster', Mailman makes no change to the From:
or Reply-To: header of the message.

If the above is set to 'this list' Mailman adds the list posting
address to the addresses in the existing Reply-To: header if any and
if first_strip_reply_to is No. Otherwise it just makes a Reply-To:
with the list posting address.

If the above is set to 'explicit address', it works like 'this list'
except the address used is the address in reply_to_address instead of
the list posting address.

So, if the user tells the MUA to 'reply', it will generally work as you
expect for any of the three cases.

However, if the user tells the MUA to 'reply all', the MUA normally
directs the reply as in the 'reply' case, but also adds every address
in the To: and Cc: headers of the current message to the recipients of
the 'reply all'

Thus, if a user does 'reply all' to a post and the list posting address
is in the To: or Cc: of the post, the reply will be sent to the list
posting address as well as the poster and other addressees of the
original message.

If you don't want this, and you DO want to allow list members in
general to post, then you have to arrange for the list posting address
to NOT appear in the To: or Cc: headers of the posts which you CAN NOT
do. I said in a prior post that Full Personalization, if you can
enable it, can do this by replacing the To: address with the
recipient's address, BUT this won't do for you because it also puts
the list posting address in Cc: in order to falicate the ability to
reply to the list if the user wants to.

If you really do not want users to have the ability to reply to the
list at all, as opposed to just when they do a simple 'reply' you have
to set up the list as a one-way/announcement/newsletter list as
described in the FAQ.

You basically have two choices:

1) set reply_goes_to_list to Poster and teach your list members to use
'reply' to reply to the poster and 'reply all' to reply to the poster
and the list.

2) prevent your list members from posting at all by setting up the list
as described in the FAQ.

At the risk of flogging a dead horse, you can't PREVENT your users from
addressing replies to the list, you can only try to teach them not to
or set up the list to not accept any posts from general list members.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:

If you don't want this, and you DO want to allow list members in
general to post, then you have to arrange for the list posting address
to NOT appear in the To: or Cc: headers of the posts which you CAN NOT
do.

Not quite correct. You can post by addressing the list in Bcc:, but if
you're allowing general list members to post, they won't do it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark.A.Lombardo
I must be coming across as really thick and stupid. If I have set the tag to
reply to poster, and I hit reply, then there is no way of mailman knowing
which email address that came from

So in simple terms, if I put up a subject on the mailing list and I don't
want people to reply, it is better to put the email address in the bcc
field.

How do I set that the reply only comes to the person that posted the mail,
and not the list, I thought setting the reply to poster it would only send
the mal to the person who posted, and not the rest of the list. Is this not
correct?

If this is not correct, then I am confused, because that is the way it
reads.

If I set reply is sent to an explicit email address (ie mine), then if
someone replies to an email I have sent to the list, it will send the reply
to me.

So what happens if someone wants to reply to the whole list, and not just
me, and I have the explicit email address set.

It must seems as though I am totally thick.

Mark

 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 October 2005 19:07
To: Mark.A.Lombardo
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Help

Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:

I am totally confused, can you explain this please?


Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended
for most mailing lists.


Poster

This list

Explicit address


 

 

 

Please can you explain this bit, for me, if this is set to poster, why does
everyone get the reply.


When a user tells his/her MUA (mail reader, email client) to 'reply' to
the current message, the MUA is supposed to direct the reply to the
address(es) in the Reply-To: header if any or to the address in From:
if there is no Reply-To:.

If the above is set to 'poster', Mailman makes no change to the From:
or Reply-To: header of the message.

If the above is set to 'this list' Mailman adds the list posting
address to the addresses in the existing Reply-To: header if any and
if first_strip_reply_to is No. Otherwise it just makes a Reply-To:
with the list posting address.

If the above is set to 'explicit address', it works like 'this list'
except the address used is the address in reply_to_address instead of
the list posting address.

So, if the user tells the MUA to 'reply', it will generally work as you
expect for any of the three cases.

However, if the user tells the MUA to 'reply all', the MUA normally
directs the reply as in the 'reply' case, but also adds every address
in the To: and Cc: headers of the current message to the recipients of
the 'reply all'

Thus, if a user does 'reply all' to a post and the list posting address
is in the To: or Cc: of the post, the reply will be sent to the list
posting address as well as the poster and other addressees of the
original message.

If you don't want this, and you DO want to allow list members in
general to post, then you have to arrange for the list posting address
to NOT appear in the To: or Cc: headers of the posts which you CAN NOT
do. I said in a prior post that Full Personalization, if you can
enable it, can do this by replacing the To: address with the
recipient's address, BUT this won't do for you because it also puts
the list posting address in Cc: in order to falicate the ability to
reply to the list if the user wants to.

If you really do not want users to have the ability to reply to the
list at all, as opposed to just when they do a simple 'reply' you have
to set up the list as a one-way/announcement/newsletter list as
described in the FAQ.

You basically have two choices:

1) set reply_goes_to_list to Poster and teach your list members to use
'reply' to reply to the poster and 'reply all' to reply to the poster
and the list.

2) prevent your list members from posting at all by setting up the list
as described in the FAQ.

At the risk of flogging a dead horse, you can't PREVENT your users from
addressing replies to the list, you can only try to teach them not to
or set up the list to not accept any posts from general list members.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark.A.Lombardo wrote:

I must be coming across as really thick and stupid. If I have set the tag to
reply to poster, and I hit reply, then there is no way of mailman knowing
which email address that came from


I'm not sure what you mean by this, but Mailman is not really involved
here other than perhaps setting a Reply-To: address. It's you and your
MUA (Outlook in your case) that decides where the reply/reply-all goes.

Consider this post of yours to the Mailman-Users list. The
Mailman-Users list is set up with 'reply to poster'. I think you
generated your post by some kind of 'reply-all' to my post. I think
this because your post has an In-Reply-To: header with the message id
of my post. It is addressed to me with a Cc: to the list, so unless
you just 'replied' to me and manually added the Cc: to the list, the
Cc: was added by the 'reply all'. Further evidence of your use of
'reply-all' is the fact that Hannah was addressed explicitly in your
initial reply to a message from me, presumably because she was
explicitly addressed in my message and you did 'reply-all'.

So anyway, I think you did 'reply-all' to my post, and the reply came
to me with Cc: to the list because my previous post had Cc: to the
list.


So in simple terms, if I put up a subject on the mailing list and I don't
want people to reply, it is better to put the email address in the bcc
field.


Do you want people to be able to reply to the list in general, and just
not to this post, or do you want them to never reply to the list? The
answer really depends on that and you've never said.


How do I set that the reply only comes to the person that posted the mail,
and not the list, I thought setting the reply to poster it would only send
the mal to the person who posted, and not the rest of the list. Is this not
correct?


This depends on how the person replying does the actual replying. If
the actual reply somehow reaches the list posting address, Mailman
doesn't care how it got there or whether it was a reply to some prior
post; it treats the post as any other from that sender.


If this is not correct, then I am confused, because that is the way it
reads.


The configuration option only governs where a simple reply to sender
only will go - nothing else - and it does this through the content of
headers in the message only, not through any enforcement on a received
reply.


If I set reply is sent to an explicit email address (ie mine), then if
someone replies to an email I have sent to the list, it will send the reply
to me.


It will actually be exactly the same as the reply to poster case if you
are the original poster. It's only different if someone else sent the
original post.


So what happens if someone wants to reply to the whole list, and not just
me, and I have the explicit email address set.


They do reply all, and the reply is addressed to the list and to the
explicit reply-to address and to any other addresses that were in the
To: an Cc: of the received post (except perhaps their own).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
One other thing that hasn't been mentioned, but all the answers in this
thread apply to replies to non-digest messages. Digests always have
Reply-To: the list posting address.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!

2005-10-28 Thread Jared Rimer
Change the length in KB a message is before posting in general to 0 
for no limit.  If I remember the setting.

At 10:55 10/26/2005, you wrote:
Hi,

We use this software and continue to get the following error message 
(see below).  Is there anything that can be adjusted in order to 
send larger messages?  Also, we can not send messages with attached 
files.  What can we do to rectify this situation?

Sincerely,
Marlowe Futrell
___

Your mail to 'NAPHAstaff' with the subject

 FW: [Naphastaff] RE: San Filippo event

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

 Message body is too big: 50802 bytes with a limit of 40 KB

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
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[Mailman-Users] help

2005-10-27 Thread jeremy
i am having serious problems with mailman.
we have nearly 700 members on our mailing list, and only some people are 
getting mail.
i have reviewed the help sections, but need to know, step-by-step,
how to export the email addresses from the list.
can you please help me?
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[Mailman-Users] help

2005-10-27 Thread jeremy
i am having serious problems with mailman.
we have nearly 700 members on our mailing list, and only some people are 
getting mail.
i have reviewed the help sections, but need to know, step-by-step,
how to export the email addresses from the list.
can you please help me?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-10-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
jeremy wrote:

i am having serious problems with mailman.
we have nearly 700 members on our mailing list, and only some people are 
getting mail.
i have reviewed the help sections, but need to know, step-by-step,
how to export the email addresses from the list.
can you please help me?


The steps differ depending on what you want and whether Mailman is on
your server or elswhere, what kind of access you have to the server if
any or if you just have access to the web admin pages for your list.
So someone may be able to help you if you describe your configuration.

Also, see the FAQ
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Articles 1.22 and 1.23, and search the archives of this list (see FAQ
1.18). This question has been answered many times on this list.

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[Mailman-Users] Help!

2005-10-26 Thread Jim Marlowe Futrell
Hi,

We use this software and continue to get the following error message (see 
below).  Is there anything that can be adjusted in order to send larger 
messages?  Also, we can not send messages with attached files.  What can we do 
to rectify this situation?

Sincerely,
Marlowe Futrell
___

Your mail to 'NAPHAstaff' with the subject

FW: [Naphastaff] RE: San Filippo event

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Message body is too big: 50802 bytes with a limit of 40 KB

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:

 
http://napha.org/mailman/confirm/naphastaff_napha.org/72586148b76afd1cdd2af6
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!

2005-10-26 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 10:55 -0700, Jim  Marlowe Futrell wrote:
[...]
 We use this software and continue to get the following error message 
 (see below).  Is there anything that can be adjusted in order to send 
 larger messages?

Yes.

  Also, we can not send messages with attached files.  What can we do
  to rectify this situation?

Set the limit for emails higher (or put the large attacjments on a
Webserver and mail the URL).

[...]
 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
 
 The reason it is being held:
 
 Message body is too big: 50802 bytes with a limit of 40 KB

What may this message mean?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!

2005-10-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jim  Marlowe Futrell wrote:

We use this software and continue to get the following error message (see 
below).  Is there anything that can be adjusted in order to send larger 
messages?  Also, we can not send messages with attached files.  What can we do 
to rectify this situation?


Are you the list admin or just a member of the list?

If you are the list admin, you can adjust the maximum allowable message
size on the list's General Options page. If not, you can discuss this
with the list owner or as another reply suggests, you can put large
things on a web site and just post URLs to the list.

If the attached file problem is because posts with attached files are
too big, see the previous paragraph. If it is because the attachments
are being stripped out, see the list's Content filtering page or
discuss this with the list owner.

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[Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-20 Thread Mark.A.Lombardo
Please can you help; currently I am using the software that is supplied by
my web HOSTing company free virtual servers or easyinternetsoultions. I
would like to know how if I have set a mailing list that, the replies only
come to the person who sent the email rather than the entire list, is this
possible?

 

Kind Regards

 

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-10-20 Thread John Fleming

- Original Message - 
From: Mark.A.Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mailman-users@python.org
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:35 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Help


 Please can you help; currently I am using the software that is supplied by
 my web HOSTing company free virtual servers or easyinternetsoultions. I
 would like to know how if I have set a mailing list that, the replies only
 come to the person who sent the email rather than the entire list, is this
 possible?

Yes, the web interface has an option to select where the replies go - to the 
poster or to the list.

John

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[Mailman-Users] Help with Passord protecting Mail List

2005-09-13 Thread George Payne
I have used Imail for a number of years.  I can't find where it tells how
the moderator uses their password to send and email.  Can you please help?

George Payne
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Passord protecting Mail List

2005-09-13 Thread Sythos
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 06:45:18AM -0500, George Payne wrote:
 I have used Imail for a number of years.  I can't find where it tells how
 the moderator uses their password to send and email.  Can you please help?

When moderator receive notification about suspended email in moderated
list he should reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject
specified in notification and in the body only:
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[Mailman-Users] Help with Qmail

2005-09-12 Thread Fabricio Vargas
HI
I have  qmail with Centos 3.5, I am trying to install mailman 2.1.6,  but
when i send a mail i get this error:

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ns.asoban.bo.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
vdeliver: Invalid or unknown virtual user 'lista3'

I followed the guide GNU - Mailman and this is my configuration

in Defaults.py

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'ns.mydomain.bo'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'ns.mydomain.bo'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

in  mm_cfg.py

add_virtualhost('www.mydomain.bo','mydomain.bo')

I create the list whit this command

./newlist --urlhost=www.mydomain.bo --emailhost=mydomain.bo lista3

and add the following to /etc/aliasses

## lista3 mailing list
lista3:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post lista3
lista3-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin lista3
lista3-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces lista3
lista3-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm lista3
lista3-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join lista3
lista3-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave lista3
lista3-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner lista3
lista3-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request lista3
lista3-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe lista3
lista3-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe lista3

Could anyone help me to identified where is the problem?

Thank you

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Qmail

2005-09-12 Thread Fabricio Vargas

I run this script on /var/qmail/aliases

#!/bin/sh
if [ $# = 1 ]; then
i=$1
echo Making links to $i in the current directory...
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post $i  .qmail-$i
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin $i 
.qmail-$i-admin
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces $i 
.qmail-$i-bounces
# The following line is for VERP
# echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces $i 
.qmail-$i-bounces-default
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm $i 
.qmail-$i-confirm
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join $i  .qmail-$i-join
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave $i 
.qmail-$i-leave
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner $i 
.qmail-$i-owner
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request $i 
.qmail-$i-request
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe $i 
.qmail-$i-subscribe
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe $i 
.qmail-$i-unsubscribe
fi

And now i have the following files  on /var/qmail/aliases

-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  53 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  54 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3-admin
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  56 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-bounces
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  56 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-confirm
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  53 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3-join
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  54 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3-leave
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  54 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3-owner
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  56 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-request
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  58 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-subscribe
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  60 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-unsubscribe

and i have this in virtualdomains

[EMAIL PROTECTED] alias]# more /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
mydomain.bo:mydomain_bo
otherdomain.bo:otherdomain_bo

but still the problem

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ns.asoban.bo.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
vdeliver: Invalid or unknown virtual user 'lista3'






-Mensaje original-
De: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: lunes, 12 de septiembre de 2005 15:26
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org
Asunto: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Qmail


Fabricio Vargas wrote:

and add the following to /etc/aliasses

## lista3 mailing list
lista3:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post lista3
lista3-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin lista3
lista3-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces lista3
lista3-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm lista3
lista3-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join lista3
lista3-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave lista3
lista3-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner lista3
lista3-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request lista3
lista3-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe lista3
lista3-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe lista3

This is not the way aliases work with qmail. See
http://www.qmail.org/qmail-manual-html/misc/INSTALL.alias.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Qmail

2005-09-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fabricio Vargas wrote:

I run this script on /var/qmail/aliases

#!/bin/sh
if [ $# = 1 ]; then
i=$1
echo Making links to $i in the current directory...
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post $i  .qmail-$i
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin $i 
.qmail-$i-admin
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces $i 
.qmail-$i-bounces
# The following line is for VERP
# echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces $i 
.qmail-$i-bounces-default
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm $i 
.qmail-$i-confirm
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join $i  .qmail-$i-join
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave $i 
.qmail-$i-leave
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner $i 
.qmail-$i-owner
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request $i 
.qmail-$i-request
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe $i 
.qmail-$i-subscribe
echo |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe $i 
.qmail-$i-unsubscribe
fi

And now i have the following files  on /var/qmail/aliases

-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  53 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  54 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3-admin
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  56 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-bounces
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  56 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-confirm
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  53 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3-join
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  54 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3-leave
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  54 Sep 12 15:59 .qmail-lista3-owner
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  56 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-request
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  58 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-subscribe
-rw-r--r--1 root qmail  60 Sep 12 15:59
.qmail-lista3-unsubscribe

and i have this in virtualdomains

[EMAIL PROTECTED] alias]# more /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
mydomain.bo:mydomain_bo
otherdomain.bo:otherdomain_bo

but still the problem

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ns.asoban.bo.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
vdeliver: Invalid or unknown virtual user 'lista3'

Since you've found the above script, you've probably seen the
information at http://www.list.org/mailman-install/qmail-issues.html.

Beyond this, you are more likely to find help for this issue from qmail
folks than from Mailman folks. See for example
http://cr.yp.to/lists.html#qmail.

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[Mailman-Users] Help // emails not sent out

2005-09-02 Thread Jim Null
HI ... we are using 2.1.5 and have several lists going.  On one particular
list, the one that is most active, we are having some problems, as follows:
 
1. Everyone on the list is moderated
2. When a post comes in, we receive a pending notice for approval
3. When approved, the message moves into our archives
4. The message goes out to some on the list, but not all,
 
Please advise any ideas on what might be the issue?
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help // emails not sent out

2005-09-02 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:23 AM -0500 2005-09-02, Jim Null wrote:

  1. Everyone on the list is moderated
  2. When a post comes in, we receive a pending notice for approval
  3. When approved, the message moves into our archives
  4. The message goes out to some on the list, but not all,

  Please advise any ideas on what might be the issue?

See 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help // emails not sent out

2005-09-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote:

At 10:23 AM -0500 2005-09-02, Jim Null wrote:

  1. Everyone on the list is moderated
  2. When a post comes in, we receive a pending notice for approval
  3. When approved, the message moves into our archives
  4. The message goes out to some on the list, but not all,

  Please advise any ideas on what might be the issue?

   See 
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp.


Also, look at the smtp-failure log and the bounce log for additional
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[Mailman-Users] Help with editing listinfo page

2005-08-08 Thread Jane Hermanson
Hello

I made an error creating a list and would like to delete it or atleast edit
the listinfo page so the list error link does not show.  I have read much
documentation and have tried what is suggested and searched for the html
page but to no avail.

Any advice great appreciated.

Regards

Jane

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with editing listinfo page

2005-08-08 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09, Jane Hermanson wrote:

 I made an error creating a list and would like to delete it or  
 atleast edit
 the listinfo page so the list error link does not show.  I have  
 read much
 documentation and have tried what is suggested and searched for the  
 html
 page but to no avail.

If your site administrator has set OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS  
= Yes then there should be a Delete this mailing list option under  
the Other Administrative Activities section at the top right of the  
list's admin web pages.

The site administrator can also remove the list from the command line  
using the bin/rmlist command.


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[Mailman-Users] Help in setting up Regular Expressions

2005-08-05 Thread ajit k jena
Hi,

I administer a few mailing lists. I have been struggling to
setup regular expressions to allow people to subscribe (and
may be post) from specfic address patterns.

I have seen some tips about doing this but none of those ideas
have worked for me.

Here is my need:

Lets say I have a list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SUBSCRIPTION :

I wish that people with address pattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
def@dept.iitb.ac.in (where dept is a department such as
phy, cc, che, chem, ee  etc) to be able to send
subscription requests to this list. All others must be
automatically discarded.

POSTING :

Similarly, while posting, only members post without moderator's
intervention. For postings that come from non-members the
following should happen:

  a) Non-member address pattern confirming to the scheme
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and def@dept.iitb.ac.in should be
 held up for moderator's approval.

  b) Non-member address pattern not confirming to the
 above patterns get discarded.

Basically, I am trying to lighten the burden on the moderator
in this SPAM infested world.

Pl send me your ideas ASAP.

Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help in setting up Regular Expressions

2005-08-05 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Aug 6, 2005, at 12:24, ajit k jena wrote:

 I administer a few mailing lists. I have been struggling to
 setup regular expressions to allow people to subscribe (and
 may be post) from specfic address patterns.

My first impression is that it would be better to do this in your MTA  
than mailman.  If nobody outside your domain can subscribe or post,  
you could just make Mailman invisible to them.

 SUBSCRIPTION :

 I wish that people with address pattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 def@dept.iitb.ac.in (where dept is a department such as
 phy, cc, che, chem, ee  etc) to be able to send
 subscription requests to this list. All others must be
 automatically discarded.

I don't believe you can do this without changing the code.  While you  
might use a negative lookahead assertion in a regular expression in  
Subscription rules ban_list, the unwanted subscriptions are rejected  
with a notice rather than being quietly discarded.

 POSTING :

 Similarly, while posting, only members post without moderator's
 intervention. For postings that come from non-members the
 following should happen:

   a) Non-member address pattern confirming to the scheme
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and def@dept.iitb.ac.in should be
  held up for moderator's approval.

   b) Non-member address pattern not confirming to the
  above patterns get discarded.

The Sender filters hold_these_nonmemembers and  
discard_these_nonmembers settings are checked in order, so I believe  
you could use [EMAIL PROTECTED]@(.+\.)?iitb\.ac\.in and ^.* respectively for 
those.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman

2005-07-29 Thread Tiago Cruz
Kenn Martin escreveu:

 Better yet, add the following to the MAKE_ARGS section of
 /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf :

   'mail/mailman' = 'MAIL_GID=mailman',

 This will also save you each time you run portupgrade. 


Hi Kenn,

Thank you to your tip, it's really very important set this variable to 
future upgrade in my system!
But I can't find this file in my FreeBSD 5.4 STABLE... I need install 
some package?

Thanks a lot!

Cheers,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman

2005-07-29 Thread Kenn Martin
--On Friday, July 29, 2005 8:48 AM -0300 Tiago Cruz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kenn Martin escreveu:

 Better yet, add the following to the MAKE_ARGS section of
 /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf :

   'mail/mailman' = 'MAIL_GID=mailman',

 This will also save you each time you run portupgrade.

 Hi Kenn,

 Thank you to your tip, it's really very important set this variable to
 future upgrade in my system!
 But I can't find this file in my FreeBSD 5.4 STABLE... I need install
 some package?

Yes you do.  The portupgrade package is essential to keeping installed 
ports up-to-date (including dependencies).  Once portupgrade is installed, 
you can check the status of all packages by running:
sudo /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -an

We have a central build server that cvsup's the base and ports weekly (and 
then builds a copy of the base and multiple kernels).  /usr/ports is 
NFS-mounted by everyone so portupgrade looks there when evaluating what 
packages can be upgraded.  The -a switch says to do all packages, the -n 
switch says to just report back and not actually build and install. 
Alternatively you can use the -i switch to be prompted for each package. 
Remember that /usr/ports/distfiles can end up with a lot of tar files over 
time and occasionally needs clean up.  Our weekly build process cleans it 
but prior to that it acts like a cache so installing the same package on 
multiple machines doesn't incur downloading tar files.



Information for sysutils/portupgrade

Comment:
FreeBSD ports/packages administration and management tool suite


Description:
Portupgrade is a tool to upgrade installed packages via ports or
packages.  You can upgrade installed packages without having to
reinstall depending or dependent packages.  It can automatically trace
dependency chains up and down upgrading packages recursively.

This package also includes the following utilities:
portinstall:Helps you install new ports in a handy way.
portcvsweb: Instantly lets you browse change history via CVSweb.
portversion:Replaces pkg_version(1) and helps you upgrade packages
with portupgrade(1). (runs much faster)
portsclean: Cleans ports workdir's, unreferenced distfiles,
old and orphan shared libraries, and stale packages.
portsdb:Creates binary database from the ports INDEX.
ports_glob: Expands ports globs.
pkg_deinstall:  Wraps pkg_delete(1) and provides additional features.
pkg_fetch:  Fetches packages from a remote site.
pkg_glob:   Expands package globs.
pkg_which:  Checks which package a file came from quickly.
pkgdb:  Manages and searches the package database.

Author: Akinori MUSHA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Mailman-Users] Help with web-based confirmation

2005-07-28 Thread Russ Romano
Hello...
 
I'm new to the mailman users list.  I was a remote admin for a
listproc-based mailing list for many years and upgrading to mailman a
couple of years ago.  A recent upgrade by our ISP pushed me to mailman
v2.0.13, and certain features appear to have been lost/hidden in this
migration.  I was hoping this group could provide some insight.
 
The biggest issue is that subscription confirmation via email doesn't
appear to work at all.  I'm not sure if mailman is having trouble with
HTML or MIME in the replies, or the appended 's in the reply cause
problems... but it isn't working for the majority of my users.  In the
past there was a very reliable web-based confirmation.  I know this
still exists because I used it to confirm my subscription to THIS list,
but on my confirmation emails it is missing, and I can't find an option
to turn it on via the admin interface.
 
I am a remote admin, and the mailman installation is outside of my
control.  I can work with my ISP to make changes... but they are not
mailman savvy so it is a painful process.  I'm hoping I'm just missing
an easy fix via the admin web interface.
 
Any insight would be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
-Russ
 
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman

2005-07-28 Thread Tiago Cruz
Hi @all!
I have progress!!! :) After hours of test, follow:

Vince Van De Coevering escreveu:

 The following is from the gentoo guide
 Code Listing 12.3: Setting defaults: Mailman/Defaults.py
 
 (Change the values below to reflect your primary domain, virtuals will be
 set next.)
 DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.com'
 DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain.com'

Here, I put my virtual domain sagarana.com


 Code Listing 12.4: mailman config: mm_cfg.py
 
 MTA = Postfix
 POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['virt-domain.com', 'virt.domain2.com']   
 add_virtualhost('www.virt.domain.com', 'virt.domain.com')
 add_virtualhost('www.virt.domain2.com', 'virt.domain2.com')
 (This is required for your virtual domains for mailman to function.)
 **end paste**

Here, I put my only domain virtual _too_ (sagarana.com)


 My guess is that you need to define your virtual domains in the mm_cfg.py
 file, create your mailing lists, and then restart mailman and reload postfix
 (which forces it to read the hash file mailman creates).  Remember, you'll
 need to reload postfix every time you finish creating/changing mail lists.

In virtual-mailman I put virtual-alias.sagarana.com anything and when 
I run malman/ postfix he put information correctly in this file

Now, postfix can see my [EMAIL PROTECTED] and another, without 
say User unknow!!

Now, I have the problem listed in FAQ called Group mismatch error but 
I don't try fix-it today, but tomorrow I'll try fix this permissions.

(but if somebody will be able to give to a tip I to me would go to like 
sufficiently :)

Thanks a lot!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman

2005-07-28 Thread Tiago Cruz
Tiago Cruz escreveu:

 Now, I have the problem listed in FAQ called Group mismatch error but 
 I don't try fix-it today, but tomorrow I'll try fix this permissions.

Now, the mailman works beautiful!!! Wonderfoul!!!

For Postfix, follow:
cd /us/ports/mail/mailman
make deinstall
vi Makefile
Set: MAIL_GID?=  mailman
make install

Thanks a lot!!! :D

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman

2005-07-28 Thread Kenn Martin
Better yet, add the following to the MAKE_ARGS section of 
/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf :

   'mail/mailman' = 'MAIL_GID=mailman',

This will also save you each time you run portupgrade.


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tiago Cruz escreveu:

 Now, I have the problem listed in FAQ called Group mismatch error but
 I don't try fix-it today, but tomorrow I'll try fix this permissions.

 Now, the mailman works beautiful!!! Wonderfoul!!!

 For Postfix, follow:
 cd /us/ports/mail/mailman
 make deinstall
 vi Makefile
 Set: MAIL_GID?=  mailman
 make install

 Thanks a lot!!! :D

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with web-based confirmation

2005-07-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Russ Romano wrote:
 
I'm new to the mailman users list.  I was a remote admin for a
listproc-based mailing list for many years and upgrading to mailman a
couple of years ago.  A recent upgrade by our ISP pushed me to mailman
v2.0.13, and certain features appear to have been lost/hidden in this
migration.  I was hoping this group could provide some insight.


2.0.13 is very old. 2.1 inal was released in Dec, 2002. Current is
2.1.6. Urge your ISP to upgrade.

 
The biggest issue is that subscription confirmation via email doesn't
appear to work at all.  I'm not sure if mailman is having trouble with
HTML or MIME in the replies, or the appended 's in the reply cause
problems... but it isn't working for the majority of my users.  In the
past there was a very reliable web-based confirmation.  I know this
still exists because I used it to confirm my subscription to THIS list,
but on my confirmation emails it is missing, and I can't find an option
to turn it on via the admin interface.


I don't know about 2.0.13 at all. I don't know if it supports web
confirmation. What I do know is that in 2.1 problems arise in e-mail
confirmations if the users MUA does funny stuff with the subject. A
confirmation message to the user has Subject: confirm token. A
confirming reply needs to go to the listname-request address with the
same subject. There is a kludge so that a reply with a subject such as

Subject: Re: confirm token

will work, but the kludge only ignores at most one 'token' preceding
'confirm' so that for example

Subject: Re : confirm token

will not work (note the space between Re and :).

I don't know if any of this is relevant to your situation. Again, your
best solution is to convince your provider to upgrade if you can.

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[Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman

2005-07-27 Thread Tiago Cruz
Hi guys!

My name is Tiago Cruz, I live in Brazil and I love *nix systems :)
I can't write in english as well, so sorry for anything.

I have a FreeBSD 5.4 box with Postfix and MySQL running with a several 
Virtual Hosts listed in Apache/ DNS.

I would like to put my test domain called sagarana.com in a list named 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Note: The domain sagarana.com its works as well, with my virtual users 
like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Well, I cannot send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because the postfix 
don't see my aliases of mailman ans say: Recipient address rejected: 
User unknown in virtual mailbox table

And... I not understood the function of file virtual-mailman (the my 
file have a 0kb...)

Thanks a lot
Brazilian Regards!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman

2005-07-27 Thread Vince Van De Coevering
I know this link isn't to a FreeBSD implementation but
It's a very good how-to for making Mailman, virtual domains,
And postfix all work together...

Virtual Mailhosting System with Postfix Guide
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml

The guide covers the interaction between several components
of a mail system including how to use Mailman with virtual
Domains.

Vince Van De Coevering
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503-371-9318 x216
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Tiago Cruz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: July 27, 2005 1:20 PM
 To: mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman
 
 
 Hi guys!
 
 My name is Tiago Cruz, I live in Brazil and I love *nix systems :)
 I can't write in english as well, so sorry for anything.
 
 I have a FreeBSD 5.4 box with Postfix and MySQL running with 
 a several 
 Virtual Hosts listed in Apache/ DNS.
 
 I would like to put my test domain called sagarana.com in a 
 list named 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 Note: The domain sagarana.com its works as well, with my 
 virtual users 
 like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 Well, I cannot send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because 
 the postfix 
 don't see my aliases of mailman ans say: Recipient address rejected: 
 User unknown in virtual mailbox table
 
 And... I not understood the function of file virtual-mailman (the my 
 file have a 0kb...)
 
 Thanks a lot
 Brazilian Regards!
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman

2005-07-27 Thread Tiago Cruz
Hi Vince!
Thanks by your reply!

Vince Van De Coevering escreveu:
 I know this link isn't to a FreeBSD implementation but
 It's a very good how-to for making Mailman, virtual domains,
 And postfix all work together...
 
 Virtual Mailhosting System with Postfix Guide
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml

Well, its a very good documentation! But google have show me before I 
write to this list... another excelent documentation is this:

http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html


 The guide covers the interaction between several components
 of a mail system including how to use Mailman with virtual
 Domains.

Yes, I follow as in FreeBSD without trobleshooting :)

But I still without understood the file virtual-mailman...
You can show a real example? Maybe will be more easy to I...

See my aliases:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/mailman/data]# postconf | grep aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases, 
mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-aliases.cf
newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases, 
mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf

Thanks a lot!
Brazilian Regards

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[Mailman-Users] Help

2005-07-22 Thread LinK
I would like to know how to get started ... I searched
FAQ and tried to get a grasp at list.org but here I am
...  I don't get the Python thing ... I understand it
is a programming language but certainly I don't have
to learn Python to install Mailman, right?  And then
when I go to download SNU Mailman version 2.1.6 there
are three downloads: Mailman 2.1.6 (show only this
release) Download mailman 2.1.6.tgz and Download
mailman 2.1.6.tgz.asc !! So, what should I download
... and then what do I do? 
You're help will be greatly appreciated and as you
see, I need a good deal of getting started help ... I
am able to follow directions but I don't see anything
that really spells it out clearly for me.

Do I upload this to my cgi bin ... am I hopeless :)
Thanks, Linda




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-07-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
LinK wrote:

I would like to know how to get started ... I searched
FAQ and tried to get a grasp at list.org but here I am
...  I don't get the Python thing ... I understand it
is a programming language but certainly I don't have
to learn Python to install Mailman, right?  And then
when I go to download SNU Mailman version 2.1.6 there
are three downloads: Mailman 2.1.6 (show only this
release)

This is the release notes.


Download mailman 2.1.6.tgz

This is the actual source distribution.

and Download
mailman 2.1.6.tgz.asc !!

This is checksums to verify the integrity of mailman-2.1.6.tgz

So, what should I download
... and then what do I do? 

Download mailman-2.1.6.tgz and use gunzip to unzip it and tar to unpack
the result.

See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/index.html

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[Mailman-Users] help

2005-07-09 Thread Jim
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[Mailman-Users] help discarding postings

2005-07-03 Thread Jason Novotny

Hi,

Our production server is using MailMan v2.0.13 and as a list admin I 
get all kinds of pending spam requests from non-subscribers. Where is 
the option to simply discard all postings from non-subscribers and not 
send me any reminders or info?

Thanks, Jason
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help getting SuSE 9.3+Mailman 2.1.5+Apache2 working

2005-06-28 Thread Poster

Michael Regoli said:
 Hello! I'm trying to get mailman and Apache2 working nicely from the
 stock SuSE distro. (YOU, Yast Online Update is current on the machine,
 so if there's new stuff for either mailman or Apache2, I've got it.
 mailman is version [2.1.5] and Apache2 is version [2.0.53].)

I had a similar problem -- I think. I have Suse 9.3, stock Mailman and
stock Apache2, all updated with YOU. In my case, it was first the
inability for Mailman to run as the right GID, then it was the
inability to read the wrapper config files (which incidentally, don't
exist). Scouring the internet led me to clues that the error really
meant that the GID was still wrong. Nothing I did worked. I changed
the UID GID files that Mailman uses. I tweaked the mailman.conf files
in /etc/apache2. I inspected mail.err logs in /var/log. I changed
perms, owner, group, and access bits on everything that seemed
related. Still nothing.

Finally, out of sheer desperation, I reinstalled the stock Suse
Mailman RPM running as the mailman user. Then I checked (and fixed)
permissions issues using the scripts in /usr/lib/mailman/bin. With the
mailman cgi files moved to /cgi-bin/mailman and aliased in apache's
default-server.conf file (and given their own separate Directory
section with CGI script running turned on), everything worked!

I'm convinced that a reinstall is necessary to fix some permissions
SOMEWHERE. I spent way too much time trying to debug it, but with
mailman's lame, unhelpful error messages, there's just not much I
could do.

I don't use virtual servers yet, but I expect I will soon. And BTW,
the error message you're currently seeing is an Apache error message.

HTH,
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[Mailman-Users] Help getting SuSE 9.3+Mailman 2.1.5+Apache2 working

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Regoli
Hello! I'm trying to get mailman and Apache2 working nicely from the
stock SuSE distro. (YOU, Yast Online Update is current on the machine,
so if there's new stuff for either mailman or Apache2, I've got it.
mailman is version [2.1.5] and Apache2 is version [2.0.53].)

Has anyone got the two working together? If so, could you shed some
light on your Apache2 configuration? I've followed all of the
instructions at
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html, but
cannot get Apache2 to see the mailman stuff in
/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin (I'm getting 403: client denied by server
configuration: /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin when I visit
http://servername/mailman/admin; for instance.)

Web server is running fine.  The machine has a few other virtual hosts
on it, so I've put the mailman configuration into the default virtual
hosts setup in /etc/apache2/default-server.conf:

VirtualHost xxx.xx.xx.x
 ServerName www.servername.here:80
 DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs
 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 TransferLog /var/log/apache2/access_log
 ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error_log
 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
 Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
   AllowOverride None
   Options +ExecCGI +Includes
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
 /Directory
/VirtualHost 

I've even tried duplicating the Directory ... section above in the
main default-server.conf file to allow CGI from within the
mailman/cgi-bin directory.  No luck.

I think I'm putting the mailman configuration in the wrong place, as
apache is clearly not letting me run anything from the mailman/cgi-bin
directory.

Thanks for any advice!  --mike
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman 2.1 on RedHat 9

2005-05-10 Thread John Dennis
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 20:27 -0700, DJ Freak wrote:
 I am using the default Mailman 2.1 installed by RedHat.  I can manage  
 groups via listinfo in my web browser and even add and remove members  
 to the groups that I create; plus, the mail log indicates that  
 messages are relayed on their merry way to the correct Mailman  
 commands location however no posts or admin mails are ever sent or  
 received.
 
 The big clue here is that when I go to

File ./mailmanctl, line 274, in check_privs
  gid = grp.getgrnam(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP)[2]
 KeyError: getgrnam(): name not found

You don't say which mailman rpm you've installed. There was a bug
several years ago in one of our rpm's where the variables MAILMAN_USER
and MAILMAN_GROUP were not defined and one would get this error as a
consequence. That bug has long since been fixed but you may have
installed that rpm if you are working with an old distribution. The fix
is to either add

MAILMAN_USER = 'mailman'
MAILMAN_GROUP = 'mailman'

at the top of your mm_cfg.py file

-or-

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[Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman 2.1 on RedHat 9

2005-05-09 Thread DJ Freak
Hello to all.  It's been a while since I've posted here.  I have been  
very happy with Mailman on OS X Server with much credit going to the  
kind people on this list.  However the chance to move these horrible  
server fans out of my home has come into my lap and I must grab it.   
Unfortunately this means moving everything from my G4 to my new Linux  
RedHat box.  It's been easier than I thought actually.  RedHat Linux  
feels much less cluttered and confusing than OS X Server's brand of  
UNIX.  I really like it a lot.  However...

I am using the default Mailman 2.1 installed by RedHat.  I can manage  
groups via listinfo in my web browser and even add and remove members  
to the groups that I create; plus, the mail log indicates that  
messages are relayed on their merry way to the correct Mailman  
commands location however no posts or admin mails are ever sent or  
received.

The big clue here is that when I go to

/var/mailman/bin

and type

./mailmanctl restart

I get the following

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File ./mailmanctl, line 524, in ?
 main()
   File ./mailmanctl, line 319, in main
 check_privs()
   File ./mailmanctl, line 274, in check_privs
 gid = grp.getgrnam(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP)[2]
KeyError: getgrnam(): name not found

I have deleted all groups and even commented the mailman references  
out of Postfix main.cf but the error does not change.  I even  
removed /var/mailman/data/all virtual and data files to try to  
jostle the error but still no change.  There is indeed a mailman user  
and group on the machine as far as I can tell but still this most  
stubborn error persists.

Any thoughts from any of you generous folk?

Thanks,

Evan Miller
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[Mailman-Users] Help!!

2005-05-05 Thread Ricardo Luis Cañavate García
Hi Friends!!

Today I'm configuring my mailman in RH9, When I  think all works well an
error appears in my explorer, Could you give a solution? Thanks.

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of
this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!
Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /var/mailman/scripts/driver, line 68, in run_main
immediate=1)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 52, in __init__
Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 49, in __init__
self.__get_f()
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 67, in __get_f
1)
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/codecs.py, line 496, in open
file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/mailman/error'



Python information:

VariableValue
sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat
Linux 3.2.2-4)]
sys.executable  /usr/bin/python
sys.prefix  /usr
sys.exec_prefix /usr
sys.path/usr
sys.platformlinux2

Environment variables:

VariableValue
PATH_INFO   /nozar/
HTTP_COOKIE testing=1; sid=4e8f0328df69b8fce06ab1786c893281;
PHPSESSID=191dc64695e8e46759d6c688a42572e8; x
SCRIPT_FILENAME /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!!

2005-05-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:51 PM +0200 2005-05-04, Ricardo Luis Cañavate García wrote:

  IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/mailman/error'

There's your problem.  Either the process is not being run with 
the correct userid/group that is allowed to write to this directory 
and file, or the ownership/group permissions on the directory or file 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!!

2005-05-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:32 PM +0200 2005-05-05, Ricardo Luis Cañavate García wrote:

  1.- When I install throught rpm package I can go to the web interface and
  works correctly but when try to send the message in the maillog appers:

It's up to the person who creates the RPM to make sure that it 
works correctly on your system.  You need to contact them for further 
assistance with the RPM version.

If you want to install from the source we provide (see 
http://www.list.org/download.html), we can provide assistance.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!!

2005-05-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:44 PM +0200 2005-05-05, Ricardo Luis Cañavate García wrote:

  - After the intallation, with --with-mail-gid=root as say beforem I
  don't access to the web interface because the user who runs apache
  are apache, and it tell me:

  Mailman CGI error!!!
  The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being
  stored in your syslog:
  Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the CGI
  wrapper script to be executed as group nobody, but
  the system's web server executed the CGI script as
  group apache.  Try tweaking the web server to run the
  script as group nobody, or re-run configure,
  providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'.

Mailman is being pretty obvious here with the error messages. 
You say that you specified --with-mail-gid=root when you built 
Mailman.  That may be required in order to have appropriate 
user/group permissions to the log files, etc  However, the error 
message is saying that you also need --with-cgi-gid=apache in order 
to make the web interface part of Mailman work with Apache.

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[Mailman-Users] Help: Uncaught runner exception: Use of the Sendmail.py

2005-05-03 Thread Rob Cartier
I have just recently upgrade to verison 2.1.5 and noticed that I am 
getting the following errors
Apr 21 16:34:55 2005 (2487) SHUNTING: 
1114115693.3566439+b7b30585c2d6766e459089d6ba7e512f0b93d599
Apr 22 21:04:23 2005 (2487) Uncaught runner exception: Use of the 
Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged
Apr 22 21:04:23 2005 (2487) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose
self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Sendmail.py, line 71, in process
assert 0, 'Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged'
AssertionError: Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged



I need to run sendmail instead of smtp since my ISP provider requires a 
login to
connect to their smtp server.  Can anyone give me a clue what is going
on here. It was working fine for over a year until the last upgrade :(

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: Uncaught runner exception: Use of the Sendmail.py

2005-05-03 Thread Rob Cartier
I corrected the issue by switching back to SMTPDirect and that solved the
problem. What was changed that caused the sendmail shell to start failing



Rob Cartier wrote:

 I have just recently upgrade to verison 2.1.5 and noticed that I am 
 getting the following errors
 Apr 21 16:34:55 2005 (2487) SHUNTING: 
 1114115693.3566439+b7b30585c2d6766e459089d6ba7e512f0b93d599
 Apr 22 21:04:23 2005 (2487) Uncaught runner exception: Use of the 
 Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged
 Apr 22 21:04:23 2005 (2487) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in 
 _dispose
self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Sendmail.py, line 71, in process
assert 0, 'Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly 
 discouraged'
 AssertionError: Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly 
 discouraged



 I need to run sendmail instead of smtp since my ISP provider requires 
 a login to
 connect to their smtp server.  Can anyone give me a clue what is going
 on here. It was working fine for over a year until the last upgrade :(

 Rob Cartier


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[Mailman-Users] Help

2005-05-02 Thread April Cox
Hi there! I was hoping to get some help from another user who may have
run into this problem. I can't find anything about it in the FAQ's. I am
trying to post to my mailing list but I receive the following:
 
You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I have been posting right along, but someone did re-configure my Outlook
email recently. I'm not sure if that contributes to the problem. Anyhow,
I can't find the option that tells me where I can change WHO can post to
the list. I had it set up so no-one could send to the list but me -
since it was a notification and reminder service and not a moderated
list. I have dug through all those configuration pages and I'll be
darned if I can find anything besides the owner and moderator areas. I
have my email address in both of those - but still get the message above
emailed to me after trying to post.
 
Here's a link to my archives:
http://mail.oceanstatepmi.org/mailman/private/members_oceanstatepmi.org/
 
The version I'm using is: 2.1.5
Help?!
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-05-02 Thread Christopher Adams
April,


To change who can post, go to your membership list in the admin page. The 
column labelled 'mod', to 
the right of the address has a check mark if the address can't post.

Check to see if your Outlook mail settings are different than your subscribed 
address. The reply 
that you sent indicates that either your subscribed address is different than 
your sending address. 
Check the Privacy  Settings for Sending. Look to see how the list is supposed 
to behave for 
moderated members and/or non-subscriber. It sounds like you are being 
considered a non-subscriber 
and that could be because you are subscribed at an address that is different 
than the one you are 
sending from.

April Cox wrote:

 Hi there! I was hoping to get some help from another user who may have
 run into this problem. I can't find anything about it in the FAQ's. I am
 trying to post to my mailing list but I receive the following:
  
 You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
 been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
 being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 I have been posting right along, but someone did re-configure my Outlook
 email recently. I'm not sure if that contributes to the problem. Anyhow,
 I can't find the option that tells me where I can change WHO can post to
 the list. I had it set up so no-one could send to the list but me -
 since it was a notification and reminder service and not a moderated
 list. I have dug through all those configuration pages and I'll be
 darned if I can find anything besides the owner and moderator areas. I
 have my email address in both of those - but still get the message above
 emailed to me after trying to post.
  
 Here's a link to my archives:
 http://mail.oceanstatepmi.org/mailman/private/members_oceanstatepmi.org/
  
 The version I'm using is: 2.1.5
 Help?!
  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-05-02 Thread Terry Allen
Hi there! I was hoping to get some help from another user who may have
run into this problem. I can't find anything about it in the FAQ's. I am
trying to post to my mailing list but I receive the following:

You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have been posting right along, but someone did re-configure my Outlook
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I can't find the option that tells me where I can change WHO can post to
the list. I had it set up so no-one could send to the list but me -
since it was a notification and reminder service and not a moderated
list. I have dug through all those configuration pages and I'll be
darned if I can find anything besides the owner and moderator areas. I
have my email address in both of those - but still get the message above
emailed to me after trying to post.

Here's a link to my archives:
http://mail.oceanstatepmi.org/mailman/private/members_oceanstatepmi.org/

The version I'm using is: 2.1.5
Help?!

Hi again,
The link to edit mailman list subscribers is:

http://yourserver.com/mailman/admin/yourlistname/members

Of course, substitute the servername  listname for whatever 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks for your comments!

Brad   Since Mailman will work with a variety of MTAs and not
Brad all of them will use the same interface to allow you to look
Brad at this information (or provide any interface at all to
Brad allow you to look at this information), your visibility into
Brad the MTA queues is going to be nonexistent.

I know; but there's nothing we can really do about that for people who
don't have special privileges.  That's one of the main things I had in
mind when I suggested a mini-FAQ on the proposed troubleshooting page.

I'll submit a change to the RFE to emphasize that.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 Larry == Larry Rosenman ler@lerctr.org writes:

Larry I keep forgetting that some of these folks don't know they
Larry exist.

Ah, that's no sin (heck, Brad was on _my_ case for assuming too much
expertise last week).  I just meant that anything that you do more
than once is a candidate for automation.

I just submitted an RFE

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1192175group_id=103atid=350103

If it looks useful, please improve and endorse.  If not, I'm sure that
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-29 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:23 PM +0900 2005-04-29, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 If it looks useful, please improve and endorse.  If not, I'm sure that
 the implementors would appreciate a brief review to that effect!
	In terms of looking at the mail queue, you'd only be able to look 
at the Mailman side of the mail queue.

	Since Mailman will work with a variety of MTAs and not all of 
them will use the same interface to allow you to look at this 
information (or provide any interface at all to allow you to look at 
this information), your visibility into the MTA queues is going to be 
nonexistent.

But web access to the logs and the mail queues is a good idea.
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[Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-28 Thread Gabriel Goaga
I have a mailman at this address:
http://mail.terramiaristorante.com/mailman/listinfo/emaillist_terramiaristorante.comhttp://mail.terramiaristorante.com/mailman/listinfo/emaillist_terramiaristorante.com
it used to work properly but now I tried to send a news letter to the list 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) but I did not received anything 
back like an approval message with a link which used to lead me back to the 
list and approve the message.
please give me some help, what can be wrong


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[Mailman-Users] help

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-28 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 05:33 pm, Gabriel Goaga wrote:
 I have a mailman at this address:
 http://mail.terramiaristorante.com/mailman/listinfo/emaillist_terramiaristo
rante.comhttp://mail.terramiaristorante.com/mailman/listinfo/emaillist_terr
amiaristorante.com it used to work properly but now I tried to send a news
 letter to the list
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) but I
 did not received anything back like an approval message with a link which
 used to lead me back to the list and approve the message. please give me
 some help, what can be wrong
What do the logs say?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 Larry == Larry Rosenman ler@lerctr.org writes:

Larry What do the logs say?

Don't you ever get tired of saying that?  0.5wink

We need to give admins web access to the logs, otherwise it's not
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-28 Thread Larry Rosenman
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 Larry What do the logs say?
 
 Don't you ever get tired of saying that?  0.5wink
 
 We need to give admins web access to the logs, otherwise it's not
 going to occur to them that they are available.

I keep forgetting that some of these folks don't know they exist.  I
just would love to help, and unfortunately I'm not omniscient(sp?) :)


 
 
 


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[Mailman-Users] Help: mailman, permissions, IOError (OS X, 10.3.8)

2005-04-25 Thread Jason Miller
Dear Mailman-users,
I had mailman working just dandy, and then I think I did something to
break it.  You can get the backstory if you think it's relevant, but I
don't think it's relevant at this point.  Since the start of this
problem (Friday), I've searched the mailman-user archive for help,
Googled, tried some 'common sense' approaches, reconfigures-and-
reinstalled about twenty times, and talked with local linux gurus,
all to no avail.  And so I come to the list for help.
I decided to resurrect mailman by doing a clean install of 2.1.5 using
Larry Stone's excellent instructions at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-September/ 
039600.html.
These instructions plus a postfix comment from Dan Phillips enabled me
to get mailmun up and running the first time.  Unfortunately, I'm not
having much success this time, and I was hoping I might benefit from
some of the list's accumulated experience to help me move forward.

I'm setting up mailman-2.1.5 in OS X 10.3.8.  My MTA is postfix.
Initially, I thought I had mailman working.  There were no hiccups
while I was following the Stone instructions for installing mailman.
(I do depart from his instructions by configuring with
--with-mail-gid=mailmaninstead of nobody because past experience led
me to believe that 'nobody' makes postfix unhappy; could these be
where I am going wrong?)
I can create a list from the command line and through the web
interface.  I cannot, however, distribute email.  Email invitations
sent to members do not get sent.  Email sent to a list does not get
distributed.  I've subscribed several test email accounts to each list
(one on localhost, one on yahoo, and other school address), and no
mail goes to any of the accounts.
Root does receive a stack of emails, however.  At least one every five
minutes.  The text of the email looks like this:
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/bin/python -S /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news
X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
X-Cron-Env: HOME=/Users/user
X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=user
X-Cron-Env: USER=user
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:30:01 -0500 (CDT)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 284, in ?
main()
  File /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 264, in main
process_lists(lock)
  File /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 199, in  
process_lists
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 128, in __init__
self.Load()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 593, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(file)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 559, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:  
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck'

I've also received similar emails (permission errors) that involve
gate_news, and aliases.  I've changed permissions by hand (chmod), and
I've modified Defaults.py so that all mentions of NNTP are commented
out, but this approach is just guesswork on my part.  I know that
postfix is very sensitive to permissions, and I also know (from
experience, now) that check_perms -f isn't thorough, because if it
were I wouldn't be having these problems.  (FWIW, postfix check
doesn't suggest to me any errors, either.)
Meanwhile, my system.log still has entries that look like
Apr 25 14:35:00 pyrite CRON[7432]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
Apr 25 14:35:00 pyrite CRON[7433]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S  
/Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news)
Apr 25 14:35:00 pyrite CRON[7434]: (millerj) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S  
/Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news)
Apr 25 14:35:00 pyrite CRON[7435]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S  
/Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news)

even though I don't have a News-Mailman gateway configured. In fact,
I've tried to make sure that mailman understand I do not want such a
gateway, but I guess I've not been successful.
I feel like fixing the IOError that's announced by the emails I've
been getting will be a major step in the right direction for me.  If
anyone can help me do that, or point out any other stupid errors I've
made, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
Jason


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: mailman, permissions, IOError (OS X, 10.3.8)

2005-04-25 Thread Carl Zwanzig

Do/did you have an old installation of MM? V2.1.n doesn't use a cron
job, but rather lets the qrunner daemonize. IIRC, you need to manually
remove all MM cron entries.

z!
who is certainly not an expert on this.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: mailman, permissions, IOError (OS X, 10.3.8)

2005-04-25 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Apr 26, 2005, at 05:03, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
Do/did you have an old installation of MM? V2.1.n doesn't use a cron
job, but rather lets the qrunner daemonize. IIRC, you need to manually
remove all MM cron entries.
While Mailman 2.1.x doesn't use cron for the various queue runners, 
there are still several cron jobs in a typical Mailman installation 
(password reminders, administrative reminders, periodic digests, and 
optional things like news-to-mail gatewaying and compressing archives).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: mailman, permissions, IOError (OS X, 10.3.8)

2005-04-25 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Apr 26, 2005, at 04:57, Jason Miller wrote:
Root does receive a stack of emails, however.  At least one every five
minutes.  The text of the email looks like this:
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/bin/python -S /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news
X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
X-Cron-Env: HOME=/Users/user
X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=user
X-Cron-Env: USER=user
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:30:01 -0500 (CDT)
Why are you running the cron jobs as 'user' instead of 'mailman'?  (Is 
the 'user' user a member of the 'mailman' group?)

I've modified Defaults.py so that all mentions of NNTP are commented
out, but this approach is just guesswork on my part.
You should never modify Defaults.py, but rather make any customizations 
you need in your mm_cfg.py.  (That allows your changes to persist 
through Mailman updates.)

even though I don't have a News-Mailman gateway configured. In fact,
I've tried to make sure that mailman understand I do not want such a
gateway, but I guess I've not been successful.
You could edit your crontab (for the 'user' user in your case 
apparently) and comment out the gatewaying task which runs every 5 
minutes by default.


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[Mailman-Users] Help

2005-04-08 Thread Adam Rubin
Hello, I am looking to set up mailman for my website, but I am a technical 
novice and was wondering if there are any walkthroughs available for the 
amateur site builder. I had a look at the documentation posted on your site 
and it seemed to be beyond the scope of my understanding.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-04-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Adam Rubin wrote:

Hello, I am looking to set up mailman for my website, but I am a technical 
novice and was wondering if there are any walkthroughs available for the 
amateur site builder. I had a look at the documentation posted on your site 
and it seemed to be beyond the scope of my understanding.

The installation manual at
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/index.html is pretty much the best
we've got. If this is too technical, I don't think we can help you.
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[Mailman-Users] help with mailman on bluehost.com

2005-03-29 Thread Samantha
Our webhosting software, www.bluehost.com http://www.bluehost.com/  offers
us mailman.  I want to create multiple mailing lists as a way to send out a
daily e-newsletter publication to some different subscriber lists.

 

However, I am finding it very confusing to use.  Do you have a support
Telephone # that I can call to walk me through it?

 

Please let me know at your earliest convenience.

 

Thanks,

 

Samantha Wiratunga

Managing Editor

Abe's Daily Grant Report

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help with mailman on bluehost.com

2005-03-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
Samantha wrote:

Our webhosting software, www.bluehost.com http://www.bluehost.com/  offers
us mailman.  I want to create multiple mailing lists as a way to send out a
daily e-newsletter publication to some different subscriber lists.

 

However, I am finding it very confusing to use.  Do you have a support
Telephone # that I can call to walk me through it?

The mailman-users@python.org list has no such phone support. This is
something your hosting provider should provide for you. Whether or not
they do, you should see the documentation at
http://www.list.org/docs.html and the FAQ wizard at
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
In particular, article 3.11 in the FAQ discusses one-way or
Announcement lists.

If after consulting your provider and the above documentation you still
have specific questions, ask them here.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help with mailman on bluehost.com

2005-03-29 Thread Terry Allen
Our webhosting software, www.bluehost.com http://www.bluehost.com/  offers
us mailman.  I want to create multiple mailing lists as a way to send out a
daily e-newsletter publication to some different subscriber lists.
However, I am finding it very confusing to use.  Do you have a support
Telephone # that I can call to walk me through it?
Please let me know at your earliest convenience.
Thanks,
Samantha Wiratunga
Hi again,
	I guess, probably the first thing is - can you explain what 
problems you are having in being confused.
	I personally find the Mailman web interface very intuitive. 
Surely bluehost.com are not providinh a command line interface are 
they? If you are using the web interface, then it's a matter of going 
to http://yourdomain.com/mailman/create  create your list using the 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-28 Thread Lynn Siprelle
On Mar 27, 2005, at 3:41 AM, Jim Tittsler wrote:
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 09:16:00AM -0800, Lynn Siprelle wrote:
I don't doubt you, and I will try it, but why would it work on one
machine and not another, both using Apache?
Do *any* CGI scripts work on the second machine?  (Is mod_cgi
being loaded/enabled?)
Yes and yes; other cgi scripts work fine. Mailman works fine, just not 
on the virtual servers.

No clues at all in the Apache error logs?
Just the ever-charming and informative premature end of script 
headers.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-28 Thread Lynn Siprelle

I'm out of ideas and down to grasping at straws.
Yeah, you and me both. :(
I noticed in your post
of the VirtualHost section of your Apache config, the first
ScriptAlias was not indented like the rest of the section.
This is an artifact of the DirectAdmin system that my host uses. After 
much digging I found the workaround to avoid this portion of the 
DirectAdmin software, and I will look at this.

Thanks.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-27 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 09:16:00AM -0800, Lynn Siprelle wrote:
 I don't doubt you, and I will try it, but why would it work on one 
 machine and not another, both using Apache?

Do *any* CGI scripts work on the second machine?  (Is mod_cgi
being loaded/enabled?)

No clues at all in the Apache error logs?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-26 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Mar 26, 2005, at 16:39, Lynn Siprelle wrote:
This works:
http://lsiprelle.simpli.biz/mailman/listinfo
This doesn't:
http://www.democracyfororegon.com/mailman/listinfo
Same server, same mailman installation. The first one runs fine, the
second one throws premature end of script headers.

What is your web server? What's in the VirtualHost (or whatever)
section of the web server config for the www.democracyfororegon.com
domain?
It looks like the second is a Drupal site, but the first isn't.  Do you 
have an overly aggressive Apache rewrite rule/RewriteBase in the 
.htaccess file for its installation that is affecting Mailman?  (If you 
rename .htaccess, does Mailman web access start working?)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-26 Thread Lynn Siprelle
It looks like the second is a Drupal site, but the first isn't.  Do 
you have an overly aggressive Apache rewrite rule/RewriteBase in the 
.htaccess file for its installation that is affecting Mailman?  (If 
you rename .htaccess, does Mailman web access start working?)
I don't doubt you, and I will try it, but why would it work on one 
machine and not another, both using Apache?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lynn Siprelle wrote:

I should also have added that I'm using the current beta.

Actually, the current is 2.1.6b5 at
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.6b5.tgz

 What is your web server? What's in the VirtualHost (or whatever)
 section of the web server config for the www.democracyfororegon.com
 domain?

 Apache 1.3.33

 VirtualHost 208.185.251.142:80
 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/

snip

  User admin
  Group admin

Is this the group expected by the wrapper?


snip

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-26 Thread Lynn Siprelle
I should also have added that I'm using the current beta.
Actually, the current is 2.1.6b5 at
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.6b5.tgz
Ah, ok.
User admin
Group admin
Is this the group expected by the wrapper?
To my knowledge. I'll see.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-26 Thread Lynn Siprelle
User admin
Group admin
Is this the group expected by the wrapper?
This may be it, because turning off my htaccess file didn't do the 
trick.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-26 Thread Lynn Siprelle
Despair! I can't get it to work. I recompiled making sure that this was  
the group expected by the wrapper and still no dice.

On Mar 26, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Lynn Siprelle wrote:
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Is this the group expected by the wrapper?
This may be it, because turning off my htaccess file didn't do the  
trick.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lynn Siprelle wrote:

Despair! I can't get it to work. I recompiled making sure that this was  
the group expected by the wrapper and still no dice.

I'm out of ideas and down to grasping at straws. I noticed in your post
of the VirtualHost section of your Apache config, the first
ScriptAlias was not indented like the rest of the section.


VirtualHost 208.185.251.142:80
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/

ServerName www.democracyfororegon.com
ServerAlias www.democracyfororegon.com democracyfororegon.com


I know it's not Python so indentation shouldn't matter ;-), but I
wonder if the ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ is
really on a separate line from VirtualHost 208.185.251.142:80 or
if there's really just a bunch of white space there that makes it
fold onto the next line when displayed.

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[Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Lynn Siprelle
I am trying to move my heretofore working mailman installation from one 
server (FreeBSD/Sendmail) to another (RedHat/Exim). I can access my 
lists at my main url, but I get Page not found on the domains I host. 
The error  log says premature end of script headers. None  of the 
lists have colliding names. Mailman is critical to my clients. I have 
been through the faq, the archives and the documentation. I've tried 
everything I could find that seemed applicable. help! Moving servers is 
bad enough without this crap!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Terry Allen
I am trying to move my heretofore working mailman installation from 
one server (FreeBSD/Sendmail) to another (RedHat/Exim). I can access 
my lists at my main url, but I get Page not found on the domains I 
host. The error  log says premature end of script headers. None 
of the lists have colliding names. Mailman is critical to my 
clients. I have been through the faq, the archives and the 
documentation. I've tried everything I could find that seemed 
applicable. help! Moving servers is bad enough without this crap!

Lynn
Hi again,
	If the error is 'premature end of script headers', I would 
hazard a guess that the CGI is not being interpreted by the server 
correctly for Mailman, or it is being interpreted as a binary file 
rather than a text file for execution.
	I'd have a look at the mailman installation on the new server 
for cgi execution firstly
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Lynn Siprelle
On Mar 25, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Terry Allen wrote:
I am trying to move my heretofore working mailman installation from 
one server (FreeBSD/Sendmail) to another (RedHat/Exim). I can access 
my lists at my main url, but I get Page not found on the domains I 
host. The error  log says premature end of script headers. None of 
the lists have colliding names. Mailman is critical to my clients. I 
have been through the faq, the archives and the documentation. I've 
tried everything I could find that seemed applicable. help! Moving 
servers is bad enough without this crap!

Lynn
Hi again,
	If the error is 'premature end of script headers', I would hazard a 
guess that the CGI is not being interpreted by the server correctly 
for Mailman, or it is being interpreted as a binary file rather than a 
text file for execution.
	I'd have a look at the mailman installation on the new server for cgi 
execution firstly
But why would it work on the main url but not the virtual ones? Here's 
what I mean.

This works:
http://lsiprelle.simpli.biz/mailman/listinfo
This doesn't:
http://www.democracyfororegon.com/mailman/listinfo
Same server, same mailman installation. The first one runs fine, the 
second one throws premature end of script headers.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lynn Siprelle wrote:

But why would it work on the main url but not the virtual ones? Here's 
what I mean.

This works:
http://lsiprelle.simpli.biz/mailman/listinfo

This doesn't:
http://www.democracyfororegon.com/mailman/listinfo

Same server, same mailman installation. The first one runs fine, the 
second one throws premature end of script headers.


What is your web server? What's in the VirtualHost (or whatever)
section of the web server config for the www.democracyfororegon.com
domain?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Lynn Siprelle
This works:
http://lsiprelle.simpli.biz/mailman/listinfo
This doesn't:
http://www.democracyfororegon.com/mailman/listinfo
Same server, same mailman installation. The first one runs fine, the
second one throws premature end of script headers.

What is your web server? What's in the VirtualHost (or whatever)
section of the web server config for the www.democracyfororegon.com
domain?
Apache 1.3.33
VirtualHost 208.185.251.142:80
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
	ServerName www.democracyfororegon.com
	ServerAlias www.democracyfororegon.com democracyfororegon.com
	ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
	DocumentRoot /home/admin/domains/democracyfororegon.com/public_html
	ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ 
/home/admin/domains/democracyfororegon.com/public_html/cgi-bin/

UseCanonicalName OFF
User admin
Group admin
CustomLog /var/log/httpd/domains/democracyfororegon.com.bytes bytes
CustomLog /var/log/httpd/domains/democracyfororegon.com.log combined
ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/domains/democracyfororegon.com.error.log
	Directory /home/admin/domains/democracyfororegon.com/public_html
		Options +Includes -Indexes
		php_admin_flag engine ON
		php_admin_flag safe_mode OFF
		php_admin_value sendmail_path '/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i -f 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
	/Directory


	#php_admin_value open_basedir 
/home/admin/:/tmp/:/var/www/:/usr/local/lib/php/:/etc/virtual/

/VirtualHost
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Lynn Siprelle
I should also have added that I'm using the current beta.
What is your web server? What's in the VirtualHost (or whatever)
section of the web server config for the www.democracyfororegon.com
domain?
Apache 1.3.33
VirtualHost 208.185.251.142:80
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
	ServerName www.democracyfororegon.com
	ServerAlias www.democracyfororegon.com democracyfororegon.com
	ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
	DocumentRoot /home/admin/domains/democracyfororegon.com/public_html
	ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/  
/home/admin/domains/democracyfororegon.com/public_html/cgi-bin/

UseCanonicalName OFF
User admin
Group admin
CustomLog /var/log/httpd/domains/democracyfororegon.com.bytes bytes
CustomLog /var/log/httpd/domains/democracyfororegon.com.log combined
ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/domains/democracyfororegon.com.error.log
	Directory /home/admin/domains/democracyfororegon.com/public_html
		Options +Includes -Indexes
		php_admin_flag engine ON
		php_admin_flag safe_mode OFF
		php_admin_value sendmail_path '/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i -f  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
	/Directory


	#php_admin_value open_basedir  
/home/admin/:/tmp/:/var/www/:/usr/local/lib/php/:/etc/virtual/

/VirtualHost
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