Re: MD: Hesitating sound
Hi all, I've got a new problem, maybe you can help me. It never happened anything like this before, but it's two days that I'm trying to record some MP3s to my JE530, using an optical connection from my SBLive + Hoontech Optical daughterboard to my MD deck. What's happening is that every now and then the sound coming from WinAmp (but it shows in Liquid Audio too) "hesitates" resulting in a strange sound, like if a bit was lost in the reading process, or like it was read twice. I've tried re-installing both WinAmp and Liquid Audio with no luck. I've also defragmented the hard drive, but the problem remains. This has been happening for a couple days, and there has been no changement in my PC configuration, nor I had installed any new program. Any idea what it can be? Thanks in advance winamp does this to me all the time, it happens when your computer's processor is used for something other than MP3 decoding. what you have to do is make sure that your computer does absolutely nothing while you are recording (this especially includes screensavers - make sure you turn them off). If it does it on it's own with no corresponding system activity, then i've got no idea what's wrong - maybe try shutting down some other stuff that's in memory (like in the taskbar) Christopher Spalding Genius, generally excellent and gifted person. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hesitating sound
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sciamano Nerazzurro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luca - who's gonna leave in three weeks to serve his 10-month period under the Italian Army. :-( Hi, Sounds like fun-- Not! I can't help but think compulsary military service is a ridiculous breach of your right to free chouce. It's like being press-ganged into the navy back around the 16th century :-) I can understand some tinpot banana-republic dictatorship doing so, but surely most civilised countries no longer do it, right? Or do they and is Britain unusual in not doing so? Cheers, PrinceGaz -- "I don't want to start a war about this :-)" You're not alone PrinceGaz! The Dutch (politicians) are civilised to! Thre is no military service in the Netherlands. Cheers, Ralph -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md
Well, not exactly. But you can take a CD that you've already purchased, rip a track or 12, make MP3s and then dump them to your MD recorder ;o). Something I read somewhere about "music industry" and "down the pan". I guess you'll figure it out. (unless, of course, your internet source is "free" music). Yes, that's it !!! That's what you meant isn't it ? ;-)) PeterB - "Do what I say and not what I do". Peter A Barlow. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. +33 1 53 78 66 52 - Message d'origine - De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mardi 26 octobre 1999 14.52 Objet : Re: MD: md From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 3:27 AM Subject: MD: md Hi, I am new to the MD list and I was wondering whether you can record MP3's off the internet to your MD. Places I have checked have said that I can and I can't, I need to know the truth. Is it out there? Thanks Also I am leaning toward the sony MZ-R55 is this a good buy??? Thanks again, Frank You need to take a trip to my homepage! Go to the Minidisc section, and you'll find a nice easy-to-follow guide on how to put your MP3s onto your Minidisc recorder. I also cover how to put stuff on MD into MP3 files too. URL below. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk (under construction) EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: JE510
I've looked over the minidisg.org 'hacking' area, but can't see anywhere where I might find information on disabling the SCMS on Sony JE510. Anyone able to help if this is possible? I bought a CD-R from a local band, and they had the discs produced cheap. I need to dump it to MD so I can listen to it in my car, but rtying to copy over fibre from CD to MD, the JE510 complains and says 'cannot copy'. I'm assuming this is the SCMS bit :( Please.. anyone help? -- Jason Aspinall icq 2193928 http://www.tech-info.freeserve.co.uk Tech Help 24/7 http://www.cardiff-bsac.freeserve.co.uk Deeper into Diving http://users.cardiff-net.co.uk/tech-info/default.htm Puma Stuff - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hesitating sound
From: Sciamano Nerazzurro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 4:33 PM Subject: MD: "Hesitating" sound [...] What's happening is that every now and then the sound coming from WinAmp (but it shows in Liquid Audio too) "hesitates" resulting in a strange sound, like if a bit was lost in the reading process, or like it was read twice. I've tried re-installing both WinAmp and Liquid Audio with no luck. I've also defragmented the hard drive, but the problem remains. This has been happening for a couple days, and there has been no changement in my PC configuration, nor I had installed any new program. Any idea what it can be? [...] I'm going to take a rough shot at it being the graphics card. Unless you're running something less than a P150 you should never have skipping in Winamp. If you have a P150 or above then even the screensaver should cause much of a problem - you only need a P166 to use some screensaver plug-ins for WinAmp that synchronise display with the MP3, so just playing back without anything else running should be a breeze! The reason I say the graphics card is simple. In order to squeeze as much performance as possible from these cards they send just slightly more data to the card than it can take to try and push it. This results in the command being left in the data lines until the card is ready for it, meaning no other card can use those data lines until the graphics card is ready. Ordinarily this isn't too much of a problem - the chances of you noticing the printer pausing for a microsecond, or maybe the mouse locking for a very brief instant, or even the hard disc taking just that millisecond longer to read a file go pretty much unnoticed. With the sound card though it is clearly audible when this happens. If you have a WinModem it will be effected too - many people blame their ISP when they get disconnected, but actually it's the graphics card breaking communication. The solution is to nag the b** off your graphics card manufacturer until you get some drivers that *don't* lock up the bus - either that or switch graphics cards. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk (under construction) EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hesitating sound
Christopher Spalding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it does it on it's own with no corresponding system activity, then i've got no idea what's wrong - maybe try shutting down some other stuff that's in memory (like in the taskbar) This is my situation: WinAmp is the only application running, no screensaver, nothing in the background. And it's always worked perfectly until a couple days ago. Luca - I can't record my MP3s to MD!! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hesitating sound
Magic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to take a rough shot at it being the graphics card. Unless you're running something less than a P150 you should never have skipping in Winamp. I have a PII/350. Never experienced any skipping before, and I've not changed anything in my PC. The reason I say the graphics card is simple. In order to squeeze as much performance as possible from these cards they send just slightly more data to the card than it can take to try and push it. This results in the command being left in the data lines until the card is ready for it, meaning no other card can use those data lines until the graphics card is ready. Ordinarily this isn't too much of a problem - the chances of you noticing the printer pausing for a microsecond, or maybe the mouse locking for a very brief instant, or even the hard disc taking just that millisecond longer to read a file go pretty much unnoticed. With the sound card though it is clearly audible when this happens. If you have a WinModem it will be effected too - many people blame their ISP when they get disconnected, but actually it's the graphics card breaking communication. The solution is to nag the b** off your graphics card manufacturer until you get some drivers that *don't* lock up the bus - either that or switch graphics cards. My graphic card is a Creative Blaster Riva TNT. It has always worked perfectly, but since I recently updated its drivers, I thought that you might be right and that this could be the problem. So I re-installed the old drivers, but the skipping is still there, worse than ever. It's driving me crazy... Luca - h-h-h-how can any-y-y-one listen t-t-t-o someth-th-thing like this-s-s?? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: 80 Min MD's Live from Manufacturer
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Bonjour, Je cherche desesperement des 80 min sur Paris et impossible d'en trouver. Sont-ils distribues en France. Merci regis Arnaud DEVILDER wrote: Dear All, You are right, thickness of the track has been reduced in order to have a higher length of the groove in order to increase from 74 minutes to 80 minutes. TOC has also been changed, but I am not an expert and I can not give you more details on this topic. Concerning compatibility, I can tell you that there are NO PROBLEMS AT ALL with these medias. We have more than 30 different MD devices at the factory, all brands, all types, all ages and everything works well. I also own an MZ-R3 (still alive) and it works well on it ! So be confident ! MD is the easiest way to make your music alive !!! Best regards. Arnaud DEVILDER Export Manager MPO Media 40 rue de Paris -*- F-92100 Boulogne +33141105151 / +33141105144 Recordable Media Site : http://www.hi-space.com Corporate Sites : http://www.mpo.fr http://www.americdisc.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: 80 Min MD's Live from Manufacturer
Salut ! J'en ai trouve ici et la, principalement a la Fnac (dont pas forcement donnes, mais bon). Je n'ai pas non plus cherche dans toutes les Fnacs, mais la Fnac Velizy2 en a. Regis Priqueler wrote: Je cherche desesperement des 80 min sur Paris et impossible d'en trouver. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hesitating sound, graphic cards
"J. Coon" wrote: What cards do you recommend? Matrox ... period. I have an original Millennium 2MB in this PC, and a 32MB G400 dual-head in my games PC. Matrox cards have no peers. -cb Disclaimer: The above is my opinion, YMMV. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: 80 Min MD's Live from Manufacturer
Yann LEZY wrote: J'en ai trouve ici et la, principalement a la Fnac (dont pas forcement donnes, mais bon). Je n'ai pas non plus cherche dans toutes les Fnacs, mais la Fnac Velizy2 en a. Yep, couldn't agree more ... errr, I think maybe. -cb - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Buying MD-Recorder
hi! so, I'll finally buy a MD Recorder on saturday (portable one). But can anyone tell me which one to buy? Price and quality are both very important to me. I like the Sharp ones. Can anyone help me? THX! Matthias, Official WebMaster of DJs At Work /---\ |pager:skyper:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (words in "Subject", not in body) |contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |homepage: actually: http://beam.to/djsatwork |ICQ: 31981571 \---/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hesitating sound
From: Sciamano Nerazzurro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 2:01 PM Subject: Re: MD: "Hesitating" sound My graphic card is a Creative Blaster Riva TNT. It has always worked perfectly, but since I recently updated its drivers, I thought that you might be right and that this could be the problem. So I re-installed the old drivers, but the skipping is still there, worse than ever. It's driving me crazy... If you didn't literally swap the graphics card and manually reverse any updated files the new drivers installed, you probably now have a driver setup with mixed files. If it replaced the VMM.VSD file for example, uninstalling will not put the old version of this file back. THe files which are replaced / updated depend a lot on your card. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk (under construction) EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD-MS722H
Hi! Just another question. How good is this player, does anyone have it? are there problems like UTOC Errors with it? Is the MD-MT821H better? I think it is not because the 722 has a Slot-In which can't become defect so fast. what do u think? Matthias, Official WebMaster of DJs At Work /---\ |pager:skyper:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (words in "Subject", not in body) |contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |homepage: actually: http://beam.to/djsatwork |ICQ: 31981571 \---/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: E-town MD article
Hey Rick (and the rest of the list), How's it going. I just spotted an article up on www.e-town.com, entitled, "Is the Fat Lady singing on Minidisc?" It's somewhat well written and realistically brings up some good points, at least for the US market, but might make for some amusing reading for MD fans... you might want to link this on the MDCP? http://www.e-town.com --Brian Youn IBM Corporation, Austin Division 7T, Dept. CY8S, 045/3D-084 Design Systems Environment (External) 512-838-0125, (Tie) 678-0125 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] alternate: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: TOC question
Hi everyone, Recently rejoined the list after being a way for a while and now I have a question. I have a SONY 510 and a recently acquired Sharp 702. The other day I was going to record to my 702 and put a MD in that has some stuff that was recorded with the 510. When I pressed the record but it gave me a UTOC ERROR. I don't believe this is the UTOC problems that were experienced on the older 702s (mine is new one with the 'mz' in the model number.) So, is there a problem when trying to record to an MD that was created with a different version of ATRAC? What could be the problem here? I don't want to have remember which disc was created on which machine when trying to edit or record. Thanks for your help. Brian - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Bus congenstion
NO! This is not an email about public transport :-P Its sound cards, video cards, modems, and the AGP, PCI and ISA bus. I was very worried when a guy said my Creative Savage4 card may have "problems" with PC100 RAM. That scared me a bit. But I think it's more likely the peeps havent been geeks like me who spend hours fiddling with BIOS settings etc [needing a boot floppy on numerous occasions], to get everything running. My vid card is cooking with gas now-- much faster than b4 adjusting BIOS stuff that can only be described as "esoteric". I had odd problems with the computer seeming to freeze for 5-20 secs when switching apps, possibly memory conflicts (32MB EDO RAM) but now solved, see next paragraph. It was fast b4, and is steaming now. My guess is similar tweaks will get it to work with PC100 memory and cook with gas! BTW I have a tendency to spend hours tweaking things which may explain why many peeps did not resolve problems. And also why I'm a sad, sad geek with no life :-) The soundcard is not so good-- it seems to be emulated DirectX SB16 compatability and thats just not good enough. I need real DirectX and may put my old SB16 ISA back in if the LiveWare 3.0 drivers do nought!!! It may be IRQ5 M220 and DMA 1 5 (for 8 16-bit) but I don't want a c**p driver. If I disable SB16 emulation, and put my old SB16 in with only sound enabled would that work? Or will they fight with each other? Cheers, PrinceGaz -- "if it harms none, do what you will" Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://website.lineone.net/~princegaz/ ICQ: 36892193 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: 80 Min MD's Live from Manufacturer
Looks like everybody else speaks French, except me. Come on, guys! Please, write in English, German, Spanish or Portuguese, so I can understand what you're trying to say. Be polite to the others. []'s Flavio -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yann LEZY Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: 80 Min MD's Live from Manufacturer Salut ! J'en ai trouve ici et la, principalement a la Fnac (dont pas forcement donnes, mais bon). Je n'ai pas non plus cherche dans toutes les Fnacs, mais la Fnac Velizy2 en a. Regis Priqueler wrote: Je cherche desesperement des 80 min sur Paris et impossible d'en trouver. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Hesitating sound, graphic cards
Personally I think matrox cards are some of the best in 2d. They display at very high resolutions very well, they always have a good RAMDAC and that is the reason they display well. However, they are lagging in MANY other areas. Their drivers are some of the worst availible, not only does it take them 6 months to release a viable MSHQ certified driver, but they also cannot release a viable OpenGL ICD. For any games, the Matrox cards bite the big one. They are slow and ungainly. U can buy much better card by going with an NVidia based card such as the TNT, TNT2, TNT2 Ultra and GeForce256 based cards. Their drivers are much more mature, and their OpenGL ICD is one of the best on the market, puting it on the rank of SGI. I know my stuff. I install approx 50+ video cards a year, and deal with computers ranging from old 386's to Sun UltraSparc 10 Creator 3d systems. I personally have a GeForce 256 (Creative Labs Annihilator). I play Quake, Quake3, Unreal Tournament, and many other games. I also use my computer for presentations to the faculty of my departments. I have a tri boot NT/Linux/98SE system, NT for presentations. Hooking my vid card up to a 5000 dollar projector and projecting onto a 18 foot screen, the image quality is on par with Matrox cards now. Thats my .02 cents...well maybe .25 ;) Shawn M. Pierce Information and User support specialist University of Minnesota, College of Agriculture Departments of Plant Pathology and Agronomy (612)-301-6034 Day phone (612)-730-7617 All hours number mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (all other mail) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hesitating sound, graphic cards
From: J. Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 1:11 PM Subject: Re: MD: "Hesitating" sound, graphic cards Magic wrote: The solution is to nag the bajeebers off your graphics card manufacturer until you get some drivers that *don't* lock up the bus - either that or switch graphics cards. What cards do you recommend? I can't really make a recommendation on a good card graphics wise as I don't have much experience of them. I have an AGP card which is a SiS6305, and that doesn't lock the bus, but it's also not that quick - I don't play games on my PC much so I'm not that worried about fast graphics. I hear the 3Dfx Voodoo3 3000 card is supposed to be very stable, but your best bet would be to ask in a newsgroup about hardware or graphics cards. If you know which card you have at the moment, see if you can find a newsgroup related to it, they may be able to advise. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk (under construction) EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Bus congenstion
Gaz, what kinda sound card do you have? I have heard of ppl running Aureal based cards in conjuntion with ISA's. What exactly are your problems? And I have never heard of anything about the savage4 and PC100 memory, thats complete bunk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PrinceGaz Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: Bus congenstion NO! This is not an email about public transport :-P Its sound cards, video cards, modems, and the AGP, PCI and ISA bus. I was very worried when a guy said my Creative Savage4 card may have "problems" with PC100 RAM. That scared me a bit. But I think it's more likely the peeps havent been geeks like me who spend hours fiddling with BIOS settings etc [needing a boot floppy on numerous occasions], to get everything running. My vid card is cooking with gas now-- much faster than b4 adjusting BIOS stuff that can only be described as "esoteric". I had odd problems with the computer seeming to freeze for 5-20 secs when switching apps, possibly memory conflicts (32MB EDO RAM) but now solved, see next paragraph. It was fast b4, and is steaming now. My guess is similar tweaks will get it to work with PC100 memory and cook with gas! BTW I have a tendency to spend hours tweaking things which may explain why many peeps did not resolve problems. And also why I'm a sad, sad geek with no life :-) The soundcard is not so good-- it seems to be emulated DirectX SB16 compatability and thats just not good enough. I need real DirectX and may put my old SB16 ISA back in if the LiveWare 3.0 drivers do nought!!! It may be IRQ5 M220 and DMA 1 5 (for 8 16-bit) but I don't want a c**p driver. If I disable SB16 emulation, and put my old SB16 in with only sound enabled would that work? Or will they fight with each other? Cheers, PrinceGaz -- "if it harms none, do what you will" Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://website.lineone.net/~princegaz/ ICQ: 36892193 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Hesitating sound
I must admit, after replying to the graphics card, I began to wonder why gcards came up...so I looked back. Not to start a flame war or anything...but... The current architecture for PCI busses is a throughput of around ~800mb/ps. That has been that way for years, even with the first intel busses. The newer 66mhz pci slots have a throughput of 1.6gigs or somthing. AGP is somewhere around 3.2 gigs per sec at 2.x mode. The only cards that are slowing down a system are ISA cards, and that where your problem may lay. However, even SB16 cards can handle it all. There is only 1 time i have had problems with full busses. I had a TNT2 Ultra, a Aureal Superquad (pci), a Linksys 10bT net card on Ethernet, and the Microsoft MS80 speakers with are USB (is on PCI bus). All of that filled up the bandwidth, and would crash GL quake when I would play with many players. I simply took USB off of the speakers, and it went away. This problem is documented by Microsoft, and was fixed in SE. The only thing limiting computers these days are CPU's. A 486 with 32 megs can run Win98SE, I know, because I have one running it. A Matrox 2mb card MORE than handles any 2d applications. As a matter of fact. The Nvidia GEForce256 is too FAST for all processors, even K7-700mhz, the CPU is a BOTTLENECK! If it were my guess, you can check out a few things. First off, I would need to know what kind of sound card you were using. That can make a big difference, but even then if you hads a SB16, it should work perfectly. How much ram do you have? How much is being taken up by extra programs running in the background? What version of windows are you running? Win95 A and B sometimes loads Dos Compatibility Drivers for hard drives, this can slow them down by as much as 60%. How much hard drive space do you have free? If you have less than 100-75 megs, windows does not have enough memory to use as virtual memory. Why speed is your processor? If it is below 200 and you are running secondary programs, they can interfere with MP3 decoding. I know because I had a p200 and when I would do other stuff, it would skip if I ran a program. Lastly, if you have an OLD version of windows (A, B, Upgrade) that can be 99% of your problems since these versions are VERY buggy. You can format and reinstall and I bet you 50 bux that your problems go away...old windows kernals suck The only time when you would get pausing is when your hard drive activity goes into high gear, the hdd is often the weakest point of a computer. It takes A LOT of stuff to bog a computer down. If you have an ISA sound card, it will get bogged if your doing a lot of stuff, thats why you get sound stuttering if you run GL quake...because Magic is right to an extent, but it takes GIGS of info to stop bus info travel. Shawn Shawn M. Pierce Information and User support specialist University of Minnesota, College of Agriculture Departments of Plant Pathology and Agronomy (612)-301-6034 Day phone (612)-730-7617 All hours number mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (all other mail) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magic Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 5:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: "Hesitating" sound From: Sciamano Nerazzurro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 4:33 PM Subject: MD: "Hesitating" sound [...] What's happening is that every now and then the sound coming from WinAmp (but it shows in Liquid Audio too) "hesitates" resulting in a strange sound, like if a bit was lost in the reading process, or like it was read twice. I've tried re-installing both WinAmp and Liquid Audio with no luck. I've also defragmented the hard drive, but the problem remains. This has been happening for a couple days, and there has been no changement in my PC configuration, nor I had installed any new program. Any idea what it can be? [...] I'm going to take a rough shot at it being the graphics card. Unless you're running something less than a P150 you should never have skipping in Winamp. If you have a P150 or above then even the screensaver should cause much of a problem - you only need a P166 to use some screensaver plug-ins for WinAmp that synchronise display with the MP3, so just playing back without anything else running should be a breeze! The reason I say the graphics card is simple. In order to squeeze as much performance as possible from these cards they send just slightly more data to the card than it can take to try and push it. This results in the command being left in the data lines until the card is ready for it, meaning no other card can use those data lines until the graphics card is ready. Ordinarily this isn't too much of a problem - the chances of you noticing the printer pausing for a microsecond, or maybe the mouse locking for a
RE: MD: Hesitating sound
The VMM.DSD/.VXD are never replaced by a video card. The VMM are only files which control the movement of virual memory in Windows. They also control the flow and allotment of memory for the AGP slot and the PCI/DIMM/SIMM bridge. The VMM would have no affect on speed. To resolve the problem I would do this. TOTALLY uninstall drivers. 1. Go into the Add/remove Programs and remove anything creative might have put there 2. Look for nv3.dll or files of this sort in the windows/system/ directory. 3. Go into Windows/ and run REGEDIT.exe and find anything that says Creative Labs, or Nvidia. Do a fine for any key words. Remove any instances. If you do not feel you can do that. i would load Nvidia's reference drivers, they can be found at www.nvidia.com they are usually the best drivers around, better than peticular card drivers. All video cards only replace a few files and make entries into the registry. The only files that they usually touch are specific drivers files nv3.ogl, opengl.dll, things of the DLL nature. They never replace any OS files or system specific files. Again, the OS you are running can be a big part of your problems. I have found certain OS's do not like certain cards. New OS's do not like old net cards/video cards. 98Se HATES old 3 com cards, and other ISA net cards, it is impossible to get them running sometimes. The only versions of windows I recommend are OSR2.1 (b, second version), OSR2 (B), win98, win98SE. B is sometimes flakey, C is the worst Win95...its a bastard OS. A is marginally better. Both have MANY problems. Again, if you want to be helped, ALL system info is needed. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hesitating sound
From: Shawn M. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:29 PM Subject: RE: MD: "Hesitating" sound I must admit, after replying to the graphics card, I began to wonder why gcards came up...so I looked back. Not to start a flame war or anything...but... The current architecture for PCI busses is a throughput of around ~800mb/ps. That has been that way for years, even with the first intel busses. The newer 66mhz pci slots have a throughput of 1.6gigs or somthing. AGP is somewhere around 3.2 gigs per sec at 2.x mode. The only cards that are slowing down a system are ISA cards, and that where your problem may lay. Throughput means absolutely sod-all I'm afraid. If I had a 32k input buffer on a card, and I stuff 32k and 1 byte across the bus, that one byte will lock the bus until the card takes it. THe card could be doing anything - most likely waiting for the flyback of the monitor to output the next frame, but that bry brief delay would be enough to throw out a device such as a sound card. The program misses picking up the sound card interrupt for another 64k of DMA and the result is the sound "skips" or "repeats". PCI cards access the memory differently, but the principle is the same. If the bus is locked, even for a nanosecond too long, the request for more data may be missed. The throughput of your bus could be way in excess of speeds we can even imagine but the situation would still be the same. The point is that the graphics card IS what locks up system bus lines. The only thing limiting computers these days are CPU's. A 486 with 32 megs can run Win98SE, I know, because I have one running it. A Matrox 2mb card MORE than handles any 2d applications. As a matter of fact. The Nvidia GEForce256 is too FAST for all processors, even K7-700mhz, the CPU is a BOTTLENECK! In that case, can you tell me why it is a P3 600MHz system with 128Mb RAM and the NVidia G-Force256 is currently experiencing stuttering sound. Should I perhaps write to Intel and ask them for a faster CPU, or should I maybe just update the graphisc drivers, which on a system this fast are really the only logical explanation. Also, why can I play an MP3 off of my ZIP drive (that thing that makes the machine grind to a virtual halt) flawlessly on a P200 with only a Trident ISA graphics card and ab SB16. Are you going to tell me that obviously this machine is far superior to the P3? Just to give you an idea of the processing power involved, a 486DX33 can play MP3s happily in DOS with the SB16. I think it's safe to say any modern PC can probably manage that sort of background processing power without even needing a severe setting up session. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk (under construction) EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: E-town MD article
"Is the Fat Lady singing on Minidisc?" It's somewhat well written and realistically brings up some good points, at least for the US market, but might make for some amusing reading for MD fans... you might want to link this on the MDCP? Well written indeed, however in some respects its a very "blinkered" article. There is feel of "well its not that popular in the US so its not popular" (I'm not being anti-American here :). It doesn't mention the popularity of MD in Europe, and doesn't mention the disadvantages of the competing formats (MP3, CD-R). Then again it does mention that MP3 is inferior to ATRAC ! Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that he does not become a monster himself." - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bus congenstion
From: PrinceGaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 5:06 PM Subject: MD: Bus congenstion I was very worried when a guy said my Creative Savage4 card may have "problems" with PC100 RAM. That scared me a bit. But I think it's more likely the peeps havent been geeks like me who spend hours fiddling with BIOS settings etc [needing a boot floppy on numerous occasions], to get everything running. My vid card is cooking with gas now-- much faster than b4 adjusting BIOS stuff that can only be described as "esoteric". I have, but it is actually a problem with the synchronisation on the card. You need to get some sort of patch to adjust the clock setting og the card ig you want to use PC100 RAM. I don't know any more than that at this stage, as I am waiting on an EMail from Creative Labs, and a CD or floppy with the patch on it, as it is not yet on their web site. The soundcard is not so good-- it seems to be emulated DirectX SB16 compatability and thats just not good enough. I need real DirectX and may put my old SB16 ISA back in if the LiveWare 3.0 drivers do nought!!! It may be IRQ5 M220 and DMA 1 5 (for 8 16-bit) but I don't want a c**p driver. That's a contradicrion - the idea of DirectX compatibility is it eliminates the need to access the hardware of the card directly - the DirectX drivers do that for you. THe only time you would need 100% SB16 compatibility would be to run your old DOS games that don't use DirectX - or early Windows titles before DirectX became the accepted standard. If I disable SB16 emulation, and put my old SB16 in with only sound enabled would that work? Or will they fight with each other? You can run as many sound cards as you like as long as you ensure there are no conflicts. I have 4 running at the moment: SB16 for games compatibility PCI Sonic Vortex 2 PCI Yamaha XG Synthesizer (MIDI only enabled) Event GINA Just go into the BIOS setup (I'm guessing you know where that is? ;o) ) and manually adjust the settings for mapping PCI cards to IRQs. Ensure there are no conflicts, and away you go! I have to admit that having up to 420 real wavetable MIDI voices simultaneously running through a quad speaker setup sounds well... absolutely unbelievable!! I'm just waiting for a Minidisc recorder that will take quadrophonic input, then I'll be one happy bunny!... Now if I could just get my flippin' joystick working.. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk (under construction) EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: 721 vs 722
I'm gonna buy a sharp MD recorder next week. I've been seeing 72x models and don't know which to choose. 721 is 35$ cheaper than 722 ant 721 is thinner than 722. But the main doubt i have is: can ring jog of 722 be more fragile than 721 controls. And, can it (the jog) make easier use of the unit, enough to make me pay 35 bucks more? Thanx. Excuse me by my poor English. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Fat ladies
The "PC solution" offered by Sony, Sharp and others is a strange stopgap. First off, they cost only slightly less than current portable MP3 devices. Second, MP3 compression is decidedly lower quality than MD's ATRAC compression, and recording from a CD to an MP3 to an MD puts the music through two stages of compression! The sound quality benefits of MD are essentially wasted. And copying MP3s to a CD-R doesn't waste quality? And two stages of compression is essentially irrelevant when one is vastly more audible than the other (i.e. MP3). I had a laugh at this article. Unfortunately, I have a feeling it might be true for the US. The editing capabilities of MP3 indeed. And what about the inconvenience of CD-R for portable recordings and editing? The public needs to be better informed, I say. -- Archer http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6413/ End. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: JE510
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Jason, I used a 510 until it broke and Sony replaced it (out of warranty) with a 530. I never found an inbuilt way round SCMS. I've got an Elektor SCMS stripper which works fine. If this is a one-off, perhaps you would like to snail-mail me the CD and a blank MD - I'll post you back an SCMS-free copy - provided you're in the UK (looks like you are from your address). Otherwise... It seems I might have a spare stripper available - I made one for a friend, but it seems his Cambridge Audio CD player outputs a strange version of S/PDIF. Let me know if you're interested. Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason Aspinall Sent: 27 October 1999 10:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: JE510 I've looked over the minidisg.org 'hacking' area, but can't see anywhere where I might find information on disabling the SCMS on Sony JE510. Anyone able to help if this is possible? I bought a CD-R from a local band, and they had the discs produced cheap. I need to dump it to MD so I can listen to it in my car, but rtying to copy over fibre from CD to MD, the JE510 complains and says 'cannot copy'. I'm assuming this is the SCMS bit :( Please.. anyone help? -- Jason Aspinall icq 2193928 http://www.tech-info.freeserve.co.uk Tech Help 24/7 http://www.cardiff-bsac.freeserve.co.uk Deeper into Diving http://users.cardiff-net.co.uk/tech-info/default.htm Puma Stuff - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bus congenstion
Hi guys! First, apologies to all of you annoyed/bored by this ongoing thread, but a few of us may benefit from all the advice available. Hopefully. My PC setup is as follows: O/S: Windows 98 (Original full release) CPU: AMD K6-3/400 M/bd: MVP3 TI5VG+ with 1Mb Cache RAM: 2x16Mb EDO 60nS SIMMS HD: 4.3Gig (2Gig free) Video: Creative Savage 4 AGP 32Mb (2x AGP on m/bd v/card) Audio: Creative Live Player 1024 CD: Creative CD-RW 2 2 24 FD: Standard 3.5" Modem: Rockwell chipset ISA v90 Countless drivers loaded, all in the Upper Memory Area of DOS, inc things like a 64K Expanded Memory(EMS) page frame, DOSKEY, PRINT and SMARTDRV (with 2Mb cache). Yeah I'm an 80's DOS throwback :-) My UMBs run from addresses B000-B7FF and C800-F7FF. And I've disabled BIOS caching b4 you ask! Unfortunately the SB16 emulation driver refuses to load high, so far but I'll work on that :-) I've still got 617K (631,000bytes) free conventional memory-- wooo! Win98 loads about ten or eleven things which appear at the right of the bar at the lower screen edge, but exiting them has no effect. But I just *Know* the problem is the emulated SB16 DirectX which on my old card had a delay of about 200mS while a true DirectX driver gave about 40-60mS reliably. Unless Creative can give direct SB16 access for DirectX drivers the old SB16 card seems the only choice :-( The stuttering occurred in the same prog it does now b4 I changed my genuine SB16's driver before-- an emulator of an old home computer. If I can find it I'll dig out Rebirth RB-338 demo (a synthesiser thingy I know little about) and see what it reports about my SB16 setup now. Phew-- well thats my PC, any ideas anyone or is it use my other ISA slot and plug in the old SB16 (and lose one of my 4 free PCI slots when doing so) ? Cheers, PrinceGaz - enjoying a sort of masochistic pleasure from spending hours faffing about with every concievable PC and BIOS setup! And having a boot disk ready :-( - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Fat ladies
Sony had better rethink its advertising campaign. Enough of those vague "Infiniti" style ads. Just tell people what MD is and *why* they should buy it. Time for a new ad agency indeed. Paul Kowtiuk - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: 80 Min MD's Live from Manufacturer
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === moi! ollaan sitten kohteliaita ja ei kirjoiteta ranskaksi! (yea o.k. let's not do this in French!) ok, about these 80 min discs: can anyone tell me where I could buy them in finland? -teeemu (joka ei kirjoita ranskaksi) Looks like everybody else speaks French, except me. Come on, guys! Please, write in English, German, Spanish or Portuguese, so I can understand what you're trying to say. Be polite to the others. []'s Flavio Salut ! J'en ai trouve ici et la, principalement a la Fnac (dont pas forcement donnes, mais bon). Je n'ai pas non plus cherche dans toutes les Fnacs, mais la Fnac Velizy2 en a. Je cherche desesperement des 80 min sur Paris et impossible d'en trouver. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Hesitating sound
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magic Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: "Hesitating" sound From: Shawn M. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:29 PM Subject: RE: MD: "Hesitating" sound Throughput means absolutely sod-all I'm afraid. If I had a 32k input buffer on a card, and I stuff 32k and 1 byte across the bus, that one byte will lock the bus until the card takes it. THe card could be doing anything - most likely waiting for the flyback of the monitor to output the next frame, but that bry brief delay would be enough to throw out a device such as a sound card. The program misses picking up the sound card interrupt for another 64k of DMA and the result is the sound "skips" or "repeats". PCI cards access the memory differently, but the principle is the same. If the bus is locked, even for a nanosecond too long, the request for more data may be missed. The throughput of your bus could be way in excess of speeds we can even imagine but the situation would still be the same. The point is that the graphics card IS what locks up system bus lines. So your telling me that a video card with 2 megs of ram or whatever is getting 2 megs of data per clock cycle, or maybe around 90 times a second by using windows? Thats totally illogical since windows requires little in the way of memory for 2d. Same with soundcards, they too have buffer memory that can hold prefetch. Thats stupid to think that a modern video card is held up by monitor inability to keep up, considering monitor refresh rates are VERY high. The monitor does not accept frames, they accept lines. IE refresh rates are how many times the monitor redraws a line per second, starting from top down. And considering that ISA busses and PCI busses are on different pathways, a video card would not hold up a soundcard, its the other way around. Thats why when you take out all of your ISA cards, you get a 5-7% speed increase...I know this because I tried it. The reason why you get stuttering sound can be for a few reasons. First, the CPU can be busy because of hard drive activity. When you run an IDE hdd at full choke, newer ones take up to 40% of the CPU power, older ones take up even more, upwards of 70%. Add into that CD-roms, and such, and you get MANY problems. Thats why I use Scsi stuff, a 40x IDE cd-rom utilizes upwards to 40% CD power, whereas my Plextor 40x UltraScsi uses around 3%. MP3 decoding can take up MASSIVE ammounts of CPU power, older versions of winamp took up more than 30%. Newer versions around around 12-15%. In Half Life, I had stuttering noises, this was cured by A. Lowering resolution, why? Not because too much data was going to the video card and it had to wait to fill buffers, but because too much info was going to the CPU! That was on my P200, now with my P2-450, I can run the same res, with the same vid card, same drivers, same OS...and NO STUTTERING!!! Have you ever looked at the bus scematic for BX chipsets? PCI bus is on a different bus, the AGP is pretty much on the PCI bus. ISA is on a different one. Have you ever looked at benchmarks across CPU's? Does the graphics card scale to the cpu? Or does the CPU scale to the graphics card? Let me ask you this. If you have a P150 and a GeForce256, will the computer lock up? HOW CAN IT!?! The graphics card is not getting enough info to it to fill its frame buffers. However, if you have a p2-600 and a GeForce256, the CPU STILL cannot feed enough info to the graphics card, because of polygon throughput...a CPU cannot handle it. This is why graphics cards are offloading Transform Lighting from the CPU to the Video cards (GEForce256's TL does this). ***The CPU has to send so much data to the graphics card, that it has no time to get data to the sound card, hence the stuttering*. If you look at benchmarks, Framerates scale to the power of the CPU up to a point. That point is the polygon or triangle output of a video card, a CPU finally is powerfull enough to send enough data to overwhelm a video card...BUT it does not start stuttering it only tops out at frame rates. I would say the GEForce256 will top out with a K7-800 or so. Why can a 386 run Unix as a server? I have one running a small file server :). Because it is not runing a GUI AND it is not running any background stuff. Why can ur dos machine decode MP3's? Because its not running windows wich takes up 50% of system, resources. Shawn PS. Who the hell has a 32k video card? Considering vid cards have upwards of 64 megs of ram now. What fills that much ram? Not windows or winamp decoding!?! Shawn M. Pierce Information and User support specialist University of Minnesota, College of Agriculture Departments of Plant Pathology and Agronomy (612)-301-6034 Day phone (612)-730-7617 All hours
Re: MD: Fat ladies
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I think he's right, I read the article, and felt that this author is only wanting Minidisc to go away, so he writes nothing bad about the other format, making the readier "stand-offish" to the Minidisc, so they won't buy it, so he gets what he wants. Is that right? The "PC solution" offered by Sony, Sharp and others is a strange stopgap. First off, they cost only slightly less than current portable MP3 devices. Second, MP3 compression is decidedly lower quality than MD's ATRAC compression, and recording from a CD to an MP3 to an MD puts the music through two stages of compression! The sound quality benefits of MD are essentially wasted. And copying MP3s to a CD-R doesn't waste quality? And two stages of compression is essentially irrelevant when one is vastly more audible than the other (i.e. MP3). I had a laugh at this article. Unfortunately, I have a feeling it might be true for the US. The editing capabilities of MP3 indeed. And what about the inconvenience of CD-R for portable recordings and editing? The public needs to be better informed, I say. -- Archer http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6413/ End. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Hesitating sound
Gaz, I can tell you right now. It is NOT the dos mode drivers. I know it. The SB emu drivers are ONLY for dos, nothing else. Everything else accesses the card directly, not through the emu drivers. The problem with dos games is they cannot directly access the pci bus with PCI sound cards. So an emu driver needs to be created, since SB16 IS THE STANDARD in drivers for old dos stuff, that is the one they program it after. Your program will not access these drivers, it doesn't even get close. It accesses probably DirectSound (the sound part of DirectX). Thus it does not touch the compat emu drivers...trust me on this one. I have had many different PCI cards. It used to be older cards such as the original Monster Sound wich was the FIRST PCI sound card, had REALLY sucky dos emu drivers, and it would hardly ever work. BUT, it would work BEAUTIFULLY in windows. I just thought of another thing. What version of DirectX do you have? If you are using new drivers, they can be optimized for DirectX7, and not an older version. Download version7 if you do not have it...its 6.8 or so megs. Its all about system hardware compatibility with software. I have seen hardware that hated with things close to it. I had to play card shuffel for 6 days with my current setup, and I FINALLY got it working. In the 7 years I have been doing hardware stuff, I have found computers to be more baffeling than even women :). Again, that emu driver is ONLY for dos programs. If you are running ANY window based program, it will NOT require it. It will either directly address the soundcard. OR it will use the DirectX system calls. I love programming stuff these days, I dont have to write sound card drivers for games, all I have to write are directx calls. I write small programs for my portfolio. I may only be 21, but I am WAY ahead of the game. There is in fact the Athlon 700 out now, it can be had for around 690 bux. VERY hard to find, but that didn't stop me from finding one, if I wanted it that is. The 800 will be out in Jan or so according to my friend. 1ghz+ will be out before second quarter 2000 :). Some nice stuff comming out. Intel has pushed up its new processor, the "whilhemitte" (I cant remember exact spelling), which is a TOTALLY new core (not P6 3 year old core which P2,3 is based on). That will hit 1.1ghz also by second Q 2000. AMD put the screws to intel, and intel responded by upping the date of the next gen processor by 8 months :). Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PrinceGaz Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 12:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: "Hesitating" sound From: Shawn M. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reason why you get stuttering sound can be for a few reasons. First, the CPU can be busy because of hard drive activity. When you run an IDE hdd at full choke, newer ones take up to 40% of the CPU power, older ones take up even more, upwards of 70%. Add into that CD-roms, and such, and you get MANY problems. Thats why I use Scsi stuff, a 40x IDE cd-rom utilizes upwards to 40% CD power, whereas my Plextor 40x UltraScsi uses around 3%. Well there is no HDD activity when I'm running the prog (ZX32 - a Spectrum Emulator). But the sound stutters-- I'll dig out that ReBirth RB-338 to check it's minimum refresh time. After sleeping on the card, not literally, I'm now convinced its the Creative SB16 emulation driver thingy you find in System - Creative... area of Control Panel thats the prob. Its not a direct access DirectX device. ***The CPU has to send so much data to the graphics card, that it has no time to get data to the sound card, hence the stuttering*. But if the same prog ran fine with an old SB16, even a P75 CPU as against my current K6-3/400 at full framerate, why should it fail now other than the above reason. I can guarantee the Spectrum emu I run needs a DirectX direct link. I tried playing Doom in DOS mode and it worked like a dream. Thats simultaneous MIDI music and sampled sounds thro' the SB16 emulation. If you look at benchmarks, Framerates scale to the power of the CPU up to a point. That point is the polygon or triangle output of a video card, a CPU finally is powerfull enough to send enough data to overwhelm a video card...BUT it does not start stuttering it only tops out at frame rates. I would say the GEForce256 will top out with a K7-800 or so. Errm, is anything faster than an Athlon 600 available? I assume thats the chip you mean by a K7, yeah Shawn? PS. Who the hell has a 32k video card? Considering vid cards have upwards of 64 megs of ram now. What fills that much ram? Not windows or winamp decoding!?! Peeps with 15yr old PCs, where the video memory is in the B000-B7FF region? In other words machines that would be worth more selling to the local museum than a second hand store :-)
