MD: Chassis MiniDisc decks
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === As I have looked at various MiniDisc decks that have been on the market, I have noticed that a lot of Sony decks and some bookshelf systems have very similar layouts -- just a bit of internal improvements (ATRAC, DAC, extra facilities) and some slight cosmetic changes such as slightly-different MD slot escutcheons. For example the JE530 looks very like its predecessor (the '520), except for a newer slot escutcheon and there are a few internal improvements to the firmware for abilities like Control A1 and variable pitch playback as well as some slight improvements to the ATRAC and analogue interface gateway circuitry. This still can be of benefit if older models were broken beyond repair and it was possible to use most parts from the newer models for these units. With regards, Simon Mackay === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface
Which brings me back around to the original point that implementing real time ATRAC in software on today's desktop is not going to happen. Well, I think that there's a small qualifier here. I've been watching this thread for a long time now, keeping my trap shut. What it comes down to is that while ATRAC *could* be implemented in realtime (if not now, then in the near future), but that the complexity of the algorithm makes it a stupid decision. It'd be cheaper to just make a small ATRAC board that carries the $5 ASIC on-board, or some other embedded solution. It's the same argument as any other form of emulation -- sure, you *can* run your Playstation games on a computer with Bleem or such, but will that make people stop buying Playstations? No. The hardware inside a Playstation is designed for a small niche, and ATRAC chips are the same way. It's does only one thing, but it's very, very good at it. A general-purpose computer is better utilized for more generalized tasks. My US$0.02, /Andrew - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Md and airoplans
Is this from experience or some other reason? I have a couple of flights this week, both by Airbusses (A320/319) and would like to listen to my MDs or at least take the opportunity to title my tracks. I've listened to my MD on Northwest Airlines A319 flights with no problems. They're just limited during takeoff and landing. /Andrew - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: mz-r30 in X-Files
You're right. The man uses a mz-r30 to record the conversation from the distance. Using a MD is cool but the best is the type of microphone employed to do it: it is a laser microphone. Very compact, stealth, no EM or RF emissions. Detectable only with a laser detector. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Finally! 80 min MD's in Australia
Just picked up 3 2-pack's from work. TDK MD-XG 80 in a 2 pack with a bonus 6 disc carrying case (opens like a book, stores 6 discs without their sleeves). The (totally transparent) sleeves themselves seem to open up like a book. The MD still slides in and out as per usual. But the reason behind it opening is so that you can write on the backing/carrier sheet for the stickers. Once you've used the stickers, the other side of the carrier actually has lines on it like your cassette (YEECH!) slips, so that way you can write up your track list for the sleeve itself rather than sticking labels on it. Not a bad idea that. Not bad at all. You can also buy them individually without the bonus case, but in my situation, where I purchase them at below retail as part of the employee purchase scheme, it was 20c cheaper to go for the 2-pack. The MD-XG 74's are actually cheaper for me to buy individually rather than in their 2-pack form (which has no included bonus). Now I can finally record Dream Theater's "Metropolis 2" in its entire 77:14 length! 3#-) Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: One more thing
Forgot to mention ... I don't know who else carries them, but I work for Dick Smith Electronics, so that's where I got them 3#-) And I can't remember the individual pricing, I think it was $7.95. But I do know the 2-pack goes for $14.95 if memory serves me well. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface
There have been several non-professional software programs made in my area by some people who were able to see how the chip worked and was able to get the code from it (my friends dad worked at a place that had a chip reader). Not that great, but realtime. BTW people who have been around for a while, the freak is back. -J.R. Moore YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface
Even if a high-speed ATRAC chip is used as opposed to software ATRAC, I think the encoder would be better off at the PC end as this allows more utilisation of the limited bandwidth USB ports. Well, I'll just give my standard response to this sort of argument -- USB is designed for peripherals, not for media storage or transfer, IMHO. If I'm going to be doing data storage or retrieval, I'd be using SCSI. Honestly, making some kind of hardware-based solution makes the most sense, but if you're trying to save bandwidth on an already-CPU-intensive bus (AFAIK, USB is still essentially an interrupt-driven technology, causing CPU use every time a packet travels the wire), offloading the encoding to an already-working CPU might be a poor decision. Transaction 1 - US$0.02 Transaction 2 - US$0.02 --- SubtotalUS$0.04 :wq!, /Andrew - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface
* Andrew Hobgood [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 15 Mar 2000 | Well, I'll just give my standard response to this sort of argument -- USB | is designed for peripherals, not for media storage or transfer, IMHO. If | I'm going to be doing data storage or retrieval, I'd be using SCSI. SCSI over USB :). But really, Firewire/iLink/IEEE-1394 is infinitely superior for bulk data, currently 400Mb/s vs. USB's relatively pathetic 12Mb/s. Of course, nobody makes MO drives that can keep up with data transfer rates that fast. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ returned to its special container and PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ kept under refrigeration. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: DJ minidisc players checked out
Well I found a place that has the Denon DJ minidisc player in Akihabara (Tokyo). It was, from memory, 60,000 Yen which you can convert to your local currency at www.currency.co.nz -- for me it puts it around the same price as an SL1200, which I guess makes some sense. My first impression is that it's very big. The pads to select tracks or loops take up an inordinate (and I think excessive) amount of space, making the unit about as big as a normal turntable. I'd like to see one that's just a little larger than a portable MD player. COnsidering any DJ using the thing won't be able to rely on the venue providing it, you'll need to lug them around everywhere you go. Otherwise they're pretty damn good. Quite likedc it. Pitch and Speed control wass sensible and easy to use, loopiong worked quite well. The price seems a little high, since a portable is so much cheaper and you'd need two of them. But if you're dead keen on being a DJ, probably not a bad option. --- Rev Simon Rumble The Roman Rule: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The one who says it cannot be done should never http://www.rumble.net interrupt the one who is doing it. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Region Free DVD-Rom
http://www.dvdutils.com is a great site about stuff like this. Bear in mind that you not only need a region free DVD-rom drive, you also will need to region-free crack the dvd playing software you are using. Just to warn you though, it may be difficult to find a region free drive now as apparently all drives manufactured after January 1st 2000 are meant to be region locked although there will probably still be ways around this ;) AndyG - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface
* "Magic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 15 Mar 2000 | Possibly it would, although it may need to be a rather faster ATRAC. | Remember this whole thread started because I suggested that it would be | better to implement ATRAC encoding at the PC rather than at the MD because | it would free up the USB bus. USB 1.1 maxes out at 12Mb/s (bit vs. Byte), or 90MB/minute. A 74 minute CD is 640MB, or ~8MB/minute. Kick the math around and, after you figure in something like a 5% loss due to overhead, you can dump raw, 16-bit PCM down the USB pipe about 10 times faster than real-time playback. Encoding on the host machine saves you nothing. | Perhaps encoding on the PC shouldn't be in software but, as you suggest, | as hardware. Perhaps a modified form of sound card that outputs a special | ATRAC encoded stream at high speed. The entire point of USB is to move hardware *outside* of the host machine. If you put the encoder inside, then there is no reason for a USB device. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ of skin. PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD to CDR
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, J Coon wrote: Hi, I know there must be several ways to do this, but I don't find any links to it on the MD community web page. Every so often, people ask how to do this, 'cause they recorded something with their portable and want to share it with some that aren't enlightened. Is there a web page I can point them to for the options on how to do it? It seems there is plenty on going the other way, but to make these things more useful to musicians, they need a way to record on MD, and then copy it to a CD to give or sell to a potential market for their music. This is how I'd do it. A easier choice for musicians maybe to feed the MD to a CDR standalone recorder. But if you're concerned about perfection, you'd better: - have a MD deck with digital out. They're almost cheaper than portables... - have a soundcard with digital in. - Use a wave editor to transfer the MD contents to sound files, recording digitally. - Enhance it, by using normalization, and maybe some expansion or compression, or even denoising, although the best way is always to have good recorded material. - Toast it. If the MD deck has a control bus (eg. S-link) and you're going to that on a regular basis, it could be worth to implement some automation, in order to record to different files, and maybe generate CD-Text entries using the MD title and track labels. If you're interested on this, and do Linux, check jukebox-control.sourceforge.net, as almost all the process mentioned previously could be automated easily with some scripting with the aid of tools like brec, sox, cdrdao etc... and the perl S-Link library functionality that is being implemented. That's all! *---(*)---**-- Francisco J. Montilla System Network administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] irc: pukkaSevilleSpain INSFLUG (LiNUX) Coordinator: www.insflug.org - ftp.insflug.org - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: DJ minidisc players checked out
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Do they let you control other things? Like, can you use it to change satellite channels automatically, and start recording them at specified times, even controlled by a computer would work? If it did this, could it stop or insert music into the time where it would switch channels and cut the show in when the dish arrives on the channel? I really don't want to record silence, and if it can't stop automatically while it switches, at least to fill the space with something. Is there any cheap c-band receivers that are likely to get most radio talk shows? At 08:45 PM 3/15/00 +1100, you wrote: Well I found a place that has the Denon DJ minidisc player in Akihabara (Tokyo). It was, from memory, 60,000 Yen which you can convert to your local currency at www.currency.co.nz -- for me it puts it around the same price as an SL1200, which I guess makes some sense. My first impression is that it's very big. The pads to select tracks or loops take up an inordinate (and I think excessive) amount of space, making the unit about as big as a normal turntable. I'd like to see one that's just a little larger than a portable MD player. COnsidering any DJ using the thing won't be able to rely on the venue providing it, you'll need to lug them around everywhere you go. Otherwise they're pretty damn good. Quite likedc it. Pitch and Speed control wass sensible and easy to use, loopiong worked quite well. The price seems a little high, since a portable is so much cheaper and you'd need two of them. But if you're dead keen on being a DJ, probably not a bad option. --- Rev Simon Rumble The Roman Rule: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The one who says it cannot be done should never http://www.rumble.net interrupt the one who is doing it. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface
From: Andrew Hobgood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 8:43 PM Subject: Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface Well, I think that there's a small qualifier here. I've been watching this thread for a long time now, keeping my trap shut. What it comes down to is that while ATRAC *could* be implemented in realtime (if not now, then in the near future), but that the complexity of the algorithm makes it a stupid decision. It'd be cheaper to just make a small ATRAC board that carries the $5 ASIC on-board, or some other embedded solution. Possibly it would, although it may need to be a rather faster ATRAC. Remember this whole thread started because I suggested that it would be better to implement ATRAC encoding at the PC rather than at the MD because it would free up the USB bus. Perhaps encoding on the PC shouldn't be in software but, as you suggest, as hardware. Perhaps a modified form of sound card that outputs a special ATRAC encoded stream at high speed. It's the same argument as any other form of emulation -- sure, you *can* run your Playstation games on a computer with Bleem or such, but will that make people stop buying Playstations? No. The hardware inside a Playstation is designed for a small niche, and ATRAC chips are the same way. It's does only one thing, but it's very, very good at it. A general-purpose computer is better utilized for more generalized tasks. Yes, but the difference there is you are attempting to emulate the whole PSX system, where-as I was merely suggesting that this be an alternative method of encoding to allow high-speed recording to MD via an interface (probably USB). Al I am in reality suggesting is a new version of the Sony MDH-10 drive but running from a USB port with the ATRAC encoder on the PC rather than in the unit. Even if a high-speed ATRAC chip is used as opposed to software ATRAC, I think the encoder would be better off at the PC end as this allows more utilisation of the limited bandwidth USB ports. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Finally! 80 min MD's in Australia
On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Tony Antoniou wrote: Now I can finally record Dream Theater's "Metropolis 2" in its entire 77:14 length! 3#-) Ahhh = a man after my own heart... the first thing I did when I found someone local in New Zealand selling 80 min MDs was to record SFAM to it, I also noticed that the MDs I got (brand name escapes me off hand till i go to my room) were 81:15 in length :-) I'm just waiting for a mate to return my Saviour Machine Legend CDs so I can record them in all there 79min glory :-) Mark - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: One more thing
On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Tony Antoniou wrote: Forgot to mention ... I don't know who else carries them, but I work for Dick Smith Electronics, so that's where I got them 3#-) Could you find out if DSE New Zealand have this deal as I like the idea of that slip case! :-0 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Here's a creative one, let's see if any of you can figure it out.
Ok, here's a creative guess (and only a guess) But, I'm willing to bet there may be something wrong with the motor, that's spinning the drive, and consequently not properly filling the ram buffer. It's trying to play back as best it can but if the disc isn't spinning properly (at most angles) it's getting stuck. Howerver due to the design of the unit (ok, it's starting to get deep) at the one angle you've found it to work fine in, has the md, and the motor at a neutral balance point for all the hardware that makes up the unit, and is the one position it plays properly, since there is less resistance for the motor to spin the disk against. Alright, you asked for creative, you get creative... Seriously, I'm ballparking this one because of problems I've had in the past with portable cd players that are on their last legs (and a Sony Playstation that only works properly if its inverted (don't ask I just about flipped (no pun intended) when I was told that would fix the problem)). If this is the case, you're gonna definitely want to return the unit for another one. good luck -Jeffrey -- The day MS makes something that doesn't suck will be the day they start making vacuum cleaners. On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Crazy Gerbil wrote: Today i got my sharp ms-702 from the US. i live in israel so it took awhile to get it, anyway when i got it i recorded some stuff with no problem. i love the sharp it has great sound and an easy interface(besides a little issue with the titling) but there's a weird weird problem with the playback. when i start playing, after about track 5 it gets stuck! and i mean stuck as hell, it goes 1 second, waits 3 and again and again. the i tried checking it in several angles and in a certain angle it works fine() WTF?!? i thought it was something with the head so i tried calibrating the head like it said in the Service function on the mindisc.org webpage. it didn't fuck up anything but still... the playback gets stuck! i really don't want to send it back, anybody knows anything???!?! ~~Crazy GErbil - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
