Re: MD: Future of minidiscs
"The 831 adds a layer of sparkly, burbling high frequencies to quiet passages and high frequencies .. in fact, if you record anything with a slight amount of background noise onto the 831 the background noise just sounds crazy and artificial like a load of bubbles bursting". It sounds to me like someone switched the version of ATRAC normally used in a Sharp 831 for version one. Yes I'm quite sure that is what must have happenedG. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: The truth on MD Manufacturing
Dear All, It seems that you are all really concerned about the MD Quality and the manufacturing of these beautiful media (even if our marketing and design is not the best (private joke for Pierre F. ;-))) Let me clear up some ideas : Manufacturers : Sony (Japan, Austria) TDK (Japan, Luxemburg) Maxell (Japan, Assembly lines in Telford, UK) XEUS (Japan) Ritek (Taïwan) Saehan Media (South Korea, for OEM only) MPO Media (France). At MPO Media, we manufacture several types of MDs : Under the Hi-SPACE brand, and under other brand names. But for each customer, we propose new components and most of them do not use the same components as Hi-SPACE. Therefore, you may think that X has a better shape than Y and Hi-SPACE has a better design than Z. The best way to see who is the manufacturer is not to look at the shell (because lots of brands have now their own design) but to analize the disc itself. I hope this will help to clarify this debate ! Arnaud DEVILDER Export Manager MPO Media 40 rue de Paris *-* F-92100 Boulogne France Tel : +33141105175 *-* Fax : +33141105144 www.hi-space.com Corporate Sites : www.mpo.fr www.americdisc.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: CD quality compared to MD quality
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === - Original Message - From: "Dan Frakes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 12:51 PM Subject: Re: MD: CD quality compared to MD quality On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 02:24:16 -0400, las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a little confused and disappointed by some of the things that I have read recently here on the list. I have always felt that the quality of an MD copied from a CD (digitally) is almost indistinguishable on equipment manufactured within the last year or 2. Now I am finding multiple comments from long time list members stating that there is on obvious difference in the quality between the original CD and the MD copy. [snip] I am interested in all opinions regarding lower end decks and portables. Also, the difference that people have noticed between CD and it's MD copy. OK, Larry, I'm game grin It all depends on your equipment. For the majority of people who use MiniDiscs, there is no audible difference. Most equipment that you buy at Circuit City or Best Buy just doesn't produce the differences. This is not intended to be "elitest" nor am I saying that you can't get good, satisfying sound from Circuit City or Best Buy. Millions of people are ecstatically happy with their Circuit City stereos, and I have absolutely no problem with that. I am simply stating an objective fact: you can only produce a certain level of audio quality within the constraints of mass-market audio components. And MD is good enough that within that market, it's difficult to tell the difference. However, on higher-end systems (or even with very good headphones) the difference in sound quality between CD and MD is often immediately audible. Let's put this discussion in perspective. My friends and I often debate whether or not MP3 is "CD-quality." They'll argue for hours that it is -- then I go to their place and see that they're listening to CDs and MP3s on their computer with $30 Labtec speakers. Of course they sound the same! grin There exists a level of "system quality" below which they sound the same, and above which there is an audible difference in quality. Our discussion here is simply raising everything up to a higher level: even on a decent system, CD and MD may sound the same. However, there is still a threshold of system quality above which you will be able to hear the difference. Have to give my 2 cents worth (again) on this one. A lot of truth here but you might want to consider component quality and not just system quality. There are cd players and there are HDCD players of considerable quality difference. I have yet to see any of the so called really high end gear companies produce MD decks. I would venture to say that if you had a Sony ES CD deck and A Sony ES MD deck you should not be able to so readily hear a difference. From the sounds of your system I would bet your CD deck is either a pro model or very high end HDCD. Perhaps if you had a pro model or super high end MD deck (if indeed they are available) the comparison would be more fair. After all a Technics is not going to sound like a Harman Kardon or Onkyo, much less something better like a NAD! So, it is my firm opinion that your cd deck MUST be far superior to your MD deck if you can so easily tell a difference. Except, I say again; when you turn the volume up to a normal rock and roll level its going to take Superman to hear any difference at all; not just between formats but between any decent gear as well (providing the same quality speakers are being used, speakers being the most crucial of all audio components).. Like I said before, you would need more bucks than you spent on your gear for test equipment good enough to measure the differences being discussed here. Also, until about 3 months ago I would have agreed with you totally on MP3. Since audio is my profession I took another look and have found there are now extremely high quality MP3s on the net. When converted to waves and burned to CD they are about as good as anything, which is why there is now such a fuss about themn I guess. I would not give 2 cents for an MP3 player, however.. Les www.musicmixers.com Our system at home consists of NAD separates and NHT and PSB speakers. I'm not even close to being wealthy, but audio quality is very important to me. I'm willing to spend a lot of time shopping so that I can get the best possible sound for my money. I'll make due with fewer features if it means better sound. So I spend quite a bit of time shopping for my system (and saving for it!), listening in audio shops, reading reviews, newsgroups, etc. In my opinion, I have the best system I could get for the money I spent (interestingly enough, my system
MD: md adverts
actually the only official adverts for MD I have seen was a stupid Sony one, all of which I remember was a guy with a pigeon on his head. Hmmm. i think one of the original adverts for MD (sony, obviously) was responsible for giving us 'Reef'... they are seen playing their demo (via a minidisc) to a record company blokey, who then chucks it out the 7th floor window, to be picked up by a skatekid (who just happened to be passing), who slips it into his MD player (that he just happens to be have with him) and then we are 'treated' to more reef... so.. the message is that you can throw your 'discs out of a multistory building, and they will still work. I suggest that we a/b test this, by throwing various different brands from various heights.. sorry, sorry. oh.. btw. i agree with princegaz'sss comments backing up pierre.. never apologise for your english.. it's many, many times better than my french! oh.. i hope i haven't offended any reef fans... shutting up now. seanB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Green Pens and all that Jazz.
Just read another idea that could be the cousin of the green pen. Someone claimed that using "Rain-X" (you know the stuff used on car windscreens) improves the sound of CD's. The only logical reason I can see this working is if your CD was dirty in the first place and needed cleaning. Anyone care to try it on perfectly good CD or MD and find out? (you could kiss goodbye the lubricant on the recordable MD surface). GC - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
David - did you do all the transfers digitally? If so, I am a little puzzled... it certainly worked on my JE520. Jonathan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md adverts
Sean Buckingham wrote: I suggest that we a/b test this, by throwing various different brands from various heights.. sorry, sorry. You would be able to tell the difference between slip in cases and flip top cases this way, but probably not the MD themselves. oh.. btw. i agree with princegaz'sss comments backing up pierre.. never apologise for your english.. it's many, many times better than my french! His English is readable and he gets his point across. What more can you ask? About the only French I know is "Are you sleeping, brother John", or Frera Jacques and I can't spell that. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md adverts
J. Coon wrote: oh.. btw. i agree with princegaz'sss comments backing up pierre.. never apologise for your english.. it's many, many times better than my french! His English is readable and he gets his point across. What more can you ask? About the only French I know is "Are you sleeping, brother John", or Frera Jacques and I can't spell that. Actually, Frere Jaques translates to Brother Jack. Brother John would be Frere Jean. Imagine that... A Dutch guy commenting on an American's French... ,xtG .tsooJ -- Joost van de Griek Applications Developer Yacht ICT http://www.yachtgroup.com/ "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
From: "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It also affects my MDS-W1 and my Aiwa AM-F70. I should imagine that it does not affect my MZ-R3, because its manual says that in mono mode the right channel of digital input is ignored and only the left channel is recorded (it mixes the two channels of analog input in mono mode), but I really ought to test it to be sure. Yep David, the manual says the R3 ignores the right-channel in mono mode from a digital source throwing away the right channel. I haven't tested this but if I have some spare time can easily check with one of my CDs (artist Erasure, track Stop!) whose intro swings wildly from left to right several times for a few seconds. Then repeat it recording via analogue connection. I'll also do both digital and analogue in stereo to compare overall levels. I'm afraid I cant objectively test if the analogue mono losses at high frequencies. Anyway presumably the digital copy should fade in and out considerably, whilst the analogue one should be markedly more steady. Stuff that- I'm not doing much now so I'll try it out now... [/me goes to do some trials] Recordings: 1: Stereo digital recording (control sample) 2: Mono digital recording (presumably left channel only) 3: Stereo analogue recording via amplifier headphone socket (analogue control sample) 4: Stereo analogue recording via amplifier in mono mode (presumably a standard analogue mix in the amplifier) 5: Mono analogue recording via amplifier in stereo mode (the one which if the R3 shifts the channels should sound a little different to 4) 6: Mono analogue recording via amplifier in mono mode (this should also sound different to 4 if the R3 shifts things) Note 5 and 6 will be recorded with both analogue channels connected from the amp to the MD! This is gonna take some time to do and listen to, I'll be back later! Yours, PrinceGaz. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Pre-Recs/Blank Quality
At 8/21/00 2:13 AM, las increased the world's knowledge by typing: Again you can't use 2000 technology to discredit 1960+ state of the art. [snip] Things get easier all of the time. But that doesn't mean that recording an album to tape was so difficult that it couldn't be done by the average person. If I remember correctly, the point was why was there a market for prerecorded cassettes, but why isn't there a market for prerecorded MDs. I'm old enough that I remember 8 tracks and reel-to-reel tapes. I was definitely "the average person" during the period when LPs and cassettes ruled the music industry. I couldn't afford anything close to the high end equipment you discussed. Even good equipment required significant manual fiddling to get a decent recording, and even then the quality wasn't anywhere near as good as a prerecorded tape. In short, there are three simple reasons why prerecorded tapes flourished, while prerecorded MDs don't: 1. Recording LP's to tape was a time consuming process that usually required some fiddling. Recording a CD to MD is as simple as it can get, even with "low-end" equipment. 2. A tape recorded from an LP was simply inferior to prerecorded tapes unless you happened to own very high-end equipment. Even then pops and clicks from LPs were common. I doubt that an audible difference can be heard between a MD recorded from a CD and a prerecorded MD. 3. Cassette players were everywhere. You could buy a tape and play it at home, in the car, on a portable player and on a boom box. MD players aren't nearly so ubiquitous. Most people will only be able to play a MD either at home or on their portable. But a CD can now be played anywhere a cassette could. To me, these reasons where why I preferred to buy cassettes before CDs took over. And these reasons are why I prefer to buy CDs and record them to MDs myself. (Note: I have a MD portable and a car stereo that plays MD. But that's it.) Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | Laughter is the brush that sweeps away the cobwebs of the heart. | | -- Mort Walker, | |King Features | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: sound quality difference in blanks?
"Psychoceramic-- crackpot. Jim, that joke is older then the invention of the mandolin! Larry Well I thought it was funny, but then I'm a strange sorta guy who obviouslly missed out on a few old jokes :-) PrinceGaz. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of minidiscs
From: "las" [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The 831 adds a layer of sparkly, burbling high frequencies to quiet passages and high frequencies .. in fact, if you record anything with a slight amount of background noise onto the 831 the background noise just sounds crazy and artificial like a load of bubbles bursting". It sounds to me like someone switched the version of ATRAC normally used in a Sharp 831 for version one. Yes I'm quite sure that is what must have happenedG. Actually that is exactly how ATRAC 1 was described as sounding by quite a few peeps, maybe Sharp decided to go "back to basics" with the 831 :-) PrinceGaz. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
Okay I've done the recordings on my MZ-R3 and and checked the results- Recordings: 1: Stereo digital recording (control sample) as you would expect, a very nice recording of the original with stereo intact 2: Mono digital recording (presumably left channel only) as the manual says, only the left channel was recorded, but plays back at the full level of the left source on both channels 3: Stereo analogue recording via amplifier headphone socket (analogue control sample) 4: Stereo analogue recording via amplifier in mono mode (presumably a standard analogue mix in the amplifier) 5: Mono analogue recording via amplifier in stereo mode (the one which if the R3 shifts the channels should sound a little different to 4) 6: Mono analogue recording via amplifier in mono mode (this should also sound different to 4 if the R3 shifts things) Note 5 and 6 will be recorded with both analogue channels connected from the amp to the MD! In what was admittedly a v.quick test under less than ideal conditions, obviously an analogue stereo to stereo remained so, while all the other analogue recordings were a mix of the left and right channels. There was no measurable difference in the recording level whether I used the amp or the MD to do the mono conversion, from the overall level of the stereo analogue recording. Whether the MD doing the mono bit supressed higher frequencies I cannot tell, at least not while my PC is sitting turned on here with me! Oh well I guess it's kept me busy for an hour or two if nought else. And I'm glad I did it too, as my R3 was in playback-pause mode when I went to do the test and it must be at least 2-3 weeks since I last used it. Apart from being slightly warm to the touch, it and the disk are both fine :-) PrinceGaz. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
I wrote, | Also, 10^.6 is not exactly 2. And while indeed it isn't, Timothy Stockman never said it was. Let me try again: 10^.6 is not exactly 4. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
Jonathan asked, | David - did you do all the transfers digitally? Yes. | If so, I am a little puzzled... it certainly worked on my JE520. What is "it"? Lopping off one sample from one channel in the leading silence? (And again, which channel should we take it from?) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Green Pens and all that Jazz.
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === While I don't think it will have any effect on the sound quality it might be an interesting experiment for cds that I keep in my car an extra coat of wax (which is what Rain-X really is) might help in being able to clean the cd on my t-shirt or jeans without scratching the cd surface. Then again, it could just toally gum up the cd player internals and require me to buy a new headunit. -Jeff On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Churchill, Guy wrote: Just read another idea that could be the cousin of the green pen. Someone claimed that using "Rain-X" (you know the stuff used on car windscreens) improves the sound of CD's. The only logical reason I can see this working is if your CD was dirty in the first place and needed cleaning. Anyone care to try it on perfectly good CD or MD and find out? (you could kiss goodbye the lubricant on the recordable MD surface). GC - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-mimedigest V2 #728
Memo from John H Rolt of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text 1 Mike Rosenlof ([EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: Does anybody have a favorite bag/case for carrying an MD player plus microphones, earphones, and a couple of discs? Mics are sound little cardoid types, player is a sharp 722 if all of that matters. I'd like something that offers a little protection plus pockets or compartments to keep things organized... I use a case from Case Logic (see http://www.casedirect.com/home.asp ) which I bought from MVC. It's just the right size for my MZ-R30 and a few discs. But before I found that I bought one of their cassette cases which had more room - could be handy depending on the size of the mic. 2 Other topics: I'm following the CD vs MD vs MP3 with interest - personally I'm still hooked on vinyl but they take a lotta room and I wouldn't let my children touch them .. any other (classic) vinyl junkies out there? I bought my JE520 deck from a guy who had high end (mostly Linn) audio and couldn't cope with the quality reduction of MD - his loss, my gain at GBP50 (but I'm still not chucking out the vinyl)! 3 Lastly, my tongue is hanging out till I can afford a scale factor edit deck (may be a long while) - I do a lot of legit recording of live choral and instrumental concerts and would really *lurve* to be able to edit down the noise of applause between numbers without actually removing (all of) it. Please excuse all the copyright blurb (if you can't edit it off, Rick?). Regards all; John - End of message text The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6NN where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The truth on MD Manufacturing
Hello Mr. Devilder. I'm not sure what you refer to when you say analyze the disc itself. The other point I am interested in that has been discussed here over.' Memorex MD blank discs. I have personally never had a problem with the Memorex discs that I bought. But it seems that other people on this list seem to feel that they are inferior in quality because of their shells. Below you give a list of the companies who manufacture MD discs and the countries that they are manufactured in. All of the Memorex discs that I own clearly say "Made in France" on them. Since the only manufacture you list as making their discs in France is MPO, unless you left out a manufacture or two, it would seem that MPO has to be the OEM for Memtek MDs. Also, going back about two and a half years ago, with the exception of MPO, weren't all MDs manufactured in Japan (with the machines to make them being made in Germany?) Thanks for devoting the time to write us. You listed your title as "Export Manager". I was always under the belief that you actually are the owner of the company. I'm I incorrect in this assumption? You have a really great day, Larry Arnaud DEVILDER wrote: Let me clear up some ideas : Manufacturers : Sony (Japan, Austria) TDK (Japan, Luxemburg) Maxell (Japan, Assembly lines in Telford, UK) XEUS (Japan) Ritek (Taïwan) Saehan Media (South Korea, for OEM only) MPO Media (France). The best way to see who is the manufacturer is not to look at the shell (because lots of brands have now their own design) but to analize the disc itself. I hope this will help to clarify this debate ! Arnaud DEVILDER - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: sound quality difference in blanks?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I didn't say it wasn't funny. It was 90 years ago when I heard it for the first time. PrinceGaz wrote: "Psychoceramic-- crackpot. Jim, that joke is older then the invention of the mandolin! Larry Well I thought it was funny, but then I'm a strange sorta guy who obviouslly missed out on a few old jokes :-) PrinceGaz. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, David W. Tamkin wrote: | If so, I am a little puzzled... it certainly worked on my JE520. What is "it"? Lopping off one sample from one channel in the leading silence? (And again, which channel should we take it from?) I didn't do this - I used the sine wave signal to do my testing instead (see the page on the MDCP, there are some .wav files containing some of the signals I used). Jonathan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD Manufacturing
Hi, I will try to answer your request : I'm not sure what you refer to when you say analyze the disc itself. To know who is the real manufacturer of a brand, the best way is to analyze the parameters of the disc and to check which are the same discs, manufactured by the same company. If you do not have such an equipment (as 99.99 % of all MD users) you can also see what is written in the inner circle of the disc. The font used or the information can be a help to identify the manufacturer. The other point I am interested in that has been discussed here over.' Memorex MD blank discs. I have personally never had a problem with the Memorex discs that I bought. But it seems that other people on this list seem to feel that they are inferior in quality because of their shells. The perception you have on a product based upon its shell may be disturbed. Sometime, the customer chooses a type of shell which fit whith the image he wants to show and may be totally different from the consumer's mind. Sometimes, if the shell is not good enough, the shutter may scratch it during the insertion, and you may have some recording issues but after several cycles of opening/closing, everything should work fine. Below you give a list of the companies who manufacture MD discs and the countries that they are manufactured in. All of the Memorex discs that I own clearly say "Made in France" on them. Since the only manufacture you list as making their discs in France is MPO, unless you left out a manufacture or two, it would seem that MPO has to be the OEM for Memtek MDs. There is only one manufacturer of MD in France. Now, if MPO has some contracts with Memorex , ... who knows ? Some confidential agreements are weaker than what the customs request in terms of information on the packaging ;-))). Also, going back about two and a half years ago, with the exception of MPO, weren't all MDs manufactured in Japan (with the machines to make them being made in Germany?) The equipment manufacturer is a company called Balzers, based in Liechtenstein (between Switzerland and austria www.bps.com) Thanks for devoting the time to write us. You listed your title as "Export Manager". I was always under the belief that you actually are the owner of the company. I'm I incorrect in this assumption? Unfortunately I am not the owner of MPO. MPO is a family owned company, owned by Mr and Mrs de Poix (french family). And I have no relation to them, except that I am a peaceful, nice and friendly employee. I am in charge of the sales in France and Northern Europe. For information in USA and Canada, please contact William Giroud ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and you can visit : www.hi-space.com (in french for the moment, because we change everything) www.mpo.fr (mother company worldwide) www.americdisc.com (operations in America NorthSouth) Best regards. Arnaud DEVILDER Export Manager MPO Media 40 rue de Paris *-* F-92100 Boulogne France Tel : +33141105175 *-* Fax : +33141105144 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, PrinceGaz wrote: In what was admittedly a v.quick test under less than ideal conditions, obviously an analogue stereo to stereo remained so, while all the other analogue recordings were a mix of the left and right channels. There was no measurable difference in the recording level whether I used the amp or the MD to do the mono conversion, from the overall level of the stereo analogue recording. Whether the MD doing the mono bit supressed higher frequencies I cannot tell, at least not while my PC is sitting turned on here with me! If the stereo signals are being mixed to produce the mono one for analogue recordings only, I assume they are being combined before going through the MD's ADC, in which case the volume loss should not happen anyway (assuming identical stereo input channels). Has anybody managed to reproduce my experiment yet? I hope that somebody does otherwise there might be a fault with my JE520, which is out of warranty (expired 9 months ago). Jonathan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
Jonathan had previously written, II If so, I am a little puzzled... it certainly worked on my JE520. And I asked, T What is "it"? Lopping off one sample from one channel in the leading T silence? (And again, which channel should we take it from?) and he responded, I I didn't do this - I used the sine wave signal to do my testing instead. OK, then, but (1) what is the "it" that certainly worked on your JE520? (2) if we want to fool a Sony MD recorder into matching the correct samples for monaural recording, should we lop off one sample from the leading silence in the left channel or one sample from the leading silence in the right channel? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: $10 OFF on any $25 and more Order with our New Buy It Online Store !
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MD: mono on the R3
Well, a monaural digital transfer to the R3 didn't reduce the peak, but it did reduce the RMS slightly, from .1846 to .1823 (probably by ATRAC's discard of psychoacoustically unimportant components). So I guess when I'm in a crunch for disc space I can use the R3 with good old ATRAC 3.0. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MD mono workarounds...
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, David W. Tamkin wrote: (1) what is the "it" that certainly worked on your JE520? What I meant here was that my observations listed on the MDCP page for 'bad' hardware in relation to the test samples there were made using my deck and the wave files on the MDCP page, meaning that testsig-lshft.wav gave full volume output on the level meter throughout playback, whereas for testsig.wav (the mono original), the volume decreased as the frequency increased. Note that it is a bad idea to play these loud as they contain slight clicks/pops which may damage delicate speakers. (2) if we want to fool a Sony MD recorder into matching the correct samples for monaural recording, should we lop off one sample from the leading silence in the left channel or one sample from the leading silence in the right channel? The right channel - then the MD will receive the first left-channel sample with the second right-channel sample, and for monauralizing, "the sample used from the left channel is one sample earlier than the corresponding sample from the right channel", meaning that it then puts it's second left-channel sample with it's first right-channel sample, restoring the original signal. If there is a flaw in this logic (it's 11.15 at night), please tell me. Jonathan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: sound quality difference in blanks?
las wrote: I didn't say it wasn't funny. It was 90 years ago when I heard it for the first time. Jeez, how the heck old are you, Larry? G -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: $10 OFF on any $25 and more Order with our New Buy It Online Store !
Hi. Well it looks like you were misinformed about Hi Space and Memorex. MPO makes them. They are the only company in France that Manufacture MDs. This from the horse's mouth at MPO. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: $10 OFF on any $25 and more Order with our New Buy It Online Store !
Yes, I read it today in the same time as you... As the guy from France told, it's not really known even by the president in Canada of MPO... I'm sorry for this but when I had ask this question, all the person from MPO always told me it was not them who made this... However, like it was said : MPO had a contract for Memorex and made the Minidisc with the specification that Memorex ask them... This is why there is a so big difference between the Memorex and Hi-Space minidisc. Anyway, the facts are real for me, I used to sell Memorex and experienced a lot of return and problem with Memorex Minidisc (not for the inner disc but for the shutter and the shelf) and never experienced any problem with Hi-Space... For me, it's clear, I stay with Hi-Space, TDK and Sony... If you're satisfied with Memorex, perfect... Maybe I just had all the wrong minidiscs at my store at this period of time... Have a great evening everyone ! Peter. - Pierre Forest - Kheops Minidisc Owner http://www.kheopsminidisc.com http://www.buyitonline.com/kheopsminidisc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of las Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: $10 OFF on any $25 and more Order with our New Buy It Online Store ! Hi. Well it looks like you were misinformed about Hi Space and Memorex. MPO makes them. They are the only company in France that Manufacture MDs. This from the horse's mouth at MPO. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: sound quality difference in blanks?
"J. Coon" wrote: las wrote: I didn't say it wasn't funny. It was 90 years ago when I heard it for the first time. Jeez, how the heck old are you, Larry? G I was born about 10,000 years ago. There ain't nothin in this world that I don't know. I saw Peter, Paul and Mosses playing ring around the roses and I'll whoop the guy what says it isn't so. Now I'm just a lonesome traveler, a great historical bum. Highly educated through history I've become. I built the Rock of Ages it was in the year 01 and that about the biggest thing that man has ever done. I saw Adam and Even a driven from the door. I'm the guy that picked the big leaves that they wore and from behind the bushes peep'n saw the apple they was eaten and I swear that I'm the one the et the core. Now I built the Garden of Eden in was in the year 02. Joined the Apple Picker's Union and I always paid my due. I'm the man what signed the contract to raise the Rising Sun, and that's about the biggest thing that man has ever done. I taught Samson how to use his mighty hand. I showed Columbus to this happy land and for Pharaoh's little kiddies I built all the pyramidies and to the Sahara carried all the sand. Now I was straw boss on the pyramids and the tower of babel too. I opened up the ocean, let the mighty children through. I fought a million battles and never lost a one and that's about the biggest thing that man has ever done. I taught Solomon his little ABCs. I'm the first one that ate limburger cheese and while float'n down the bay with Methuselah one day, I saw his whiskers blowin in the breeze. Now I fought the revolution that sent this country free. It was me and a couple of Indians that dumped the Boston tea. I won the battle of Valley Forge and the battle of Bully Run and that about the biggest thing that man has ever done. Now Queen Elizabeth she fell in love with me. We were married in Milwaukee secretly. But I got tired and shook her and joined up with General Hooker to go shoot'n skeeters down in Tennessee. I was born about 10,000 years a go oh. There ain't nothin in the world that I don't know oh. I took Doctor Freud and Einstein, and introduced them to Diane Fienstine and that's about the biggest thing that man has ever done. I'm the man that taught Billy Gates how to type. I taught him all about the Windows hype and while he worked on a program, I inspired Billyo Graham and that's about the biggest thing that MAN HAS EVER DONE -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: CD-DA
Either I misread something or the author wrote it incorrectly, but he stated that an MD copy could never sound as good as the original CD. then he said something to the effect, neither could an CD-DA?? Just what did he mean by that?? A CD-DA is a standard audio CD. Even a copy created on a computer of the original should be just as good. You are not dealing with compression here. Just transferring files. ``` - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Napster
Could someone please explain to me how Napster makes any money?? They do not charge anything for using their service and do not advertise. So how can they afford to fight the record industry and appeal decisions on top of that? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
