Re: MD: Size of WAV files from decoded MP3 files
I think they will be the same size. Don Capps wrote: From: "Bob Norton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes. The size of a WAV file depends only on the length of the recording, the bit resolution used and the sampling frequency. Bob...you completely missed my point here. I was referring to .wav files created by decoding an MP3 file. Not to the original .wav file as ripped or recorded from a CD. Don C. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Size of WAV files from decoded MP3 files
From: "J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think they will be the same size. True. They are. But the point of my discussion was that an interpolative filter creates that data in an attempt to reconstruct the song. It mimics what it thinks the original data was...an even more difficult task than compressing the data imo. The original data which the compression codec threw away is lost forever. What I was questioning was what (if any) effect this digital guesswork would have on the sonic fidelity. Don C. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Size of WAV files from decoded MP3 files
When Bob Norton wrote, N Yes. The size of a WAV file depends only on the length of the recording, N the bit resolution used and the sampling frequency. [and whether it's mono or stereo] Don Capps responded, C Bob...you completely missed my point here. I was referring to .wav files C created by decoding an MP3 file. Not to the original .wav file as ripped or C recorded from a CD. Seems that Bob did get your point, Don. A .wav file made by decompressing a lossily compressed song will be the same size as a .wav file of the ori- ginal uncompressed data. You're both saying the same thing and agreeing. "Bit resolution" isn't the same as the bit rate of storage in previous generations. Don posted further, | The original data which the compression codec threw away is lost forever. | What I was questioning was what (if any) effect this digital guesswork | would have on the sonic fidelity. That's a subjective question that nobody can answer for anyone else and which one can answer for oneself only by listening. To me, if all three are at the same bit rate, ATRAC3 sounds more faithful than WMA, which in turn sounds more faithful than MP3. You might reach a differing opinion, and so might I if I redo the comparison with other music. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Size of WAV files from decoded MP3 files
From: "Taky Cheung" [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you convert an mp3 back to wave using uncompressed PCM, that's the same as the wave file you ripped from CD. Bob was right, the size of the wave file is depends on the frequency, bit depth, and mono/stereo channel. I realize that. But I also know that the data "restored" is not the original data lost in compression because that data is gone forever. An MPEG 1 Layer 3 decoder uses a sophisticated interpolative filter in an attempt to accurately replace the lost data. Don C. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Size of WAV files from decoded MP3 files
hey man, all i know about WAV to mp3 is that it looses quality... -WiLL - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MiniSystem Recommendation
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === Hello I was wondering if you could guys could give me your opinion on a recommended Mini System. I'm currently looking into the Sony DHC-ZX50MD but was wondering if you could recommend anything else. Some important features are: 1. Reliability I was also looking into the Kenwood XD-981MD but I read some bad things about it. 2. FeaturesDigital recording level control as well as the other standard MiniDisc features. Would also like to haveCD, AM/FM Tuner, and Cassette Deck. Digital input and output are also nice. 3. Sound Would like it to sound really well at reasonable levels and be able to handle the occasional loud party. 4. AmericanI would prefer to buy an American release instead of a Japanese import through a specialty shop. This isn't that necessary though. Thanks, Tim === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Din unlock??
Niels asked, | I've got a sony je520 deck. And when I want to record to a blank md, I | get the error: 'Din unlock c71'. Could anyone tell me what's wrong? Just as the back pages of the manual say, the 520 is looking for a digital input signal but failing to find one, or finding one that it can't read. As Bryan suggested, if you are trying to record an analog signal, switch the input selector to `analog.' If you are trying to record digital input, make sure that the end of the cable is emitting red light and then make sure that it is inserted properly. Are you by any chance trying to record from a portable CD player? Many portable CD players that offer optical output will generate it only when a CD is actually playing, or when they are plugged into the wall (rather than operating on batteries), or both. So if you're trying to record from a portable CD player and it is running on batteries, get its AC adaptor and plug it into the wall. If you get that message before pressing PLAY on a portable CD player, press PAUSE to get it into playing position and see if the DIN UnLock message goes away on the 520; then press PLAY or PAUSE again on the CD player. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Din unlock??
Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I've got a sony je520 deck. And when I want to record to a blank md, I get the error: 'Din unlock c71'. Could anyone tell me what's wrong? Thanks, Niels Schenk It usually indicates that it's detected a Digital input cable, but that there's no signal. Do you have the other end properly connected to a digital output device? -- Mike Burger CompuCom Information Services http://www.compucomis.net (215) 946-5573 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sony, Best Buy, and MDs
There has been a lot of traffic on this list lately about whether Best Buy will or will not continue supporting the MD format. I previously worked at Best Buy for four-and-a-half years, and I must say I am disappointed at the company's stance on MD technology in general. And now, Sony has taken the first steps to kill of the MiniDisc in North America altogether: the RCD-W1, a dual-deck CD Recorder. http://www.bestbuy.com/Detail.asp?m=1cat=31scat=243e=11045615 For years, Sony has vehemently denied entering the CD-R market, instead supporting their proprietary MD products. But at the recent Consumer Electronics Show, Sony admitted to caving in to consumer pressure, and showed this home CD Recorder, as well as a Discman, Car Stereo Head Units and Changers which play MP3s burned onto CD. The same thing happened back in the 80s with BetaMax and VHS. Funny though - Beta's still around these days, it's just not being used (or sold) commercially in the United States. -Sleazy __ Get your free domain name and domain-based e-mail from Namezero.com New! Namezero Plus domains now available. Find out more at: http://www.namezero.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: recompressing (was MiniDisc Your Music)
I have several MDs of assorted jazz that were downloaded from MP3.com as 128K MP3's. I've used CoolEdit 2000 to decompress and play them via S/PDIF (TOSlink) to the MDS-PC recorder. I've noticed very few artifacts that I can attribute to the MDs ATRAC encoding. The biggest problem with 128K MP3 in general seems to be in the treble; it sometimes it sounds almost like a recording made with a cheap microphone. This sound is there when I play the file directly from the computer and the MD faithfully reproduces this problem. MDs made from CDs or LPs do not exhibit this. My opinion is that the additional audible damage incured when recording from 128K MP3s to MD is miniscule. Factors such as choice of MP3 decoder and type of connection between the PC and MD probably have far more of an audible effect than the ATRAC artifacts.. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: members who sell blanks (was MiniDisc Your Music)
Hello I took a lot of Peter's stock and recently tried to contact him to see how he was doing. I believe he is out of the country for a while because I did not hear back from him. Where ever he is I hope all is well and that he will check in on the board from time to time.. In any case the prices you mention are actually below cost on most name brand MD's. I could currently get some HiSpace Red color only and sell at close to those prices but the minimum order is ridiculous and how many people would choose that product and color on price alone when the more popular ones are not very much more?? I had a bunch of these for quite a while and had such a hard time moving them I quit stocking them. If enough of you tell me I am wrong I will reconsider, maybe restock them again. I know Peter could do this when he was with the buyitonline with those coupons but I fear all the trouble and hassle that caused might have had something to do with his decision to get out. In any case I am considering doing a regular special for everyone on the list and any ideas would be welcome, just email me direct. For now, I am going to offer a straight 10% off anything in stock till the end of the month. Just enter the words " MD Discussion" in the comments area of the order form and your total (less the SH charge) will be discounted. The discount will not show up in the cart (I am working on getting a new one that will allow for this) but rest assured I will do it manually. The charge is not made until I manually do it anyway which does allow me flexibility to do it. For now I can only do credit cards from North America (USA Canada) but am also working on other options for our friends overseas. This one may take some time as all the merchant companies really make this hard and expensive. I hope many of you will sign up for the store's mailing list to get specials each month (never more than 2 emails per month, no selling any address's from the list , NO SPAM). I know several people get upset with ads on this list which is why I have not made any in a while and I promise I will not make this a habit either... THANKS and Have a GREAT Musical Day! Les Music Mixers www.musicmixers.com/mall True, Peter did get out of the business...but he had a ton of stock to unload at the time...I don't know if he had ever gotten it all sold. On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Burger wrote, If, hypothetically, time was not of the essence, Peter Forrest and Art Munson, also subscribers of this list, have them anywhere from $1.10-1.35/per disc. I believe that there are minimum quantities necessary to gain the price, but the quantities are not high...something like 5-10 at a time. Pierre (aka Peter) has gotten out of that part of the business. Art Munson from Cassette House, whome Mike mentioned, and Les Lee from Musicmixers are members here who sell MD blanks. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: recovering deleted TOC
i'm using a sony MD walkman. what i'd like is to find someone who can recover the data for me. i'm at a loss. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Din unlock??
Hi, I've got a sony je520 deck. And when I want to record to a blank md, I get the error: 'Din unlock c71'. Could anyone tell me what's wrong? Thanks, Niels Schenk Is there a little switch to change it from Digital recording mode to Analog recording mode ? Bryan. http://bullets.gothic.ie - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:13:25 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a 7-day, 6-event timer for $29.95 I did not see one of these. I will recheck ... but if the R50 turns off after 5 minutes in record pause mode it does not matter. I cannot set the R50 to record one day and the 940 the next. Thanks. -jts - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:13:25 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | It's looking more a more like an LP4 player is the more elegant soln. In the long run, yes, but I've a feeling you won't be able to get one in time for this particular trip. This one time, maybe it's not so bad to copy the LP4 recording made in the 940 to two discs in SP mono. Yes, it takes four hours, but you don't have to sit there and twiddle your thumbs the whole time. I do this two times a week, it's not a one-time issue. That's why re-recording from LP4 to mono is such a PITA. Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:09:33 -0800, Peter Jaques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: say the program is 8-10pm tuesday wednesday. before you leave, set the RS timer to turn on at 7:59pm, put the R50 in rec-pause. set the 940 to turn on at 8pm *wednesday*. this way, every day the tuner turns on at 7:59. first day, that triggers the R50 to turn on. second day, the 940 turns itself on. Unfortunately the 940 uses only an external timer, not it's own internal clock, and the RS $26 electronic timer is 24 hours, and selectable by day. Also I think the R50 will turn itself off after 5 minutes in rec-pause mode. i find the most elegant solution to be the one using the equipment already available;) I agree, using the equipment at hand is preferrable! Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Din unlock??
Hi, I've got a sony je520 deck. And when I want to record to a blank md, I get the error: 'Din unlock c71'. Could anyone tell me what's wrong? Thanks, Niels Schenk - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: portable solid state players
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MD: Panasonic goes MDLP with a catch...
http://www.matsushita.co.jp/corp/news/official.data/data.dir/jn010221-3/jn01 0221-3-1.jpg Panasonic's first MDLP product, a 3-CD/MD bookshelf system, will be released on March 1. However, it is, guess what... A clone of an existing JVC system. http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/audio_w/product/mini/image/mxs55md.jpg Leon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable solid state players
nops! Send it again or use my direct mail please [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks DJIO . . . X) --- did any of my original msg come through? thanks matt - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable solid state players
did any of my original msg come through? thanks matt - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: MD: portable solid state players === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: External battery packs and portable electronics
Hi everyone! Please bring the thread back on course rather than trashing editors of magazines. The thread is all about the use of external long-range battery packs with portable electronic gadgets like MD Walkmans and digital cameras. With regards, Simon Mackay - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Timer Recording
Mark Dottle wrote, | I personally wouldn't bother using timers with my MD portable. Instead, | I prefer to record audio programs using my Hi-Fi VCR. A lot of people do. Unfortunately, John needs to listen to the programs away from home; he can't carry around a VCP with him for playback the way he can take along a portable MD unit, and he won't have time to dub them from video- cassette to MD before needing to hear them, so that method won't work for him. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony, Best Buy, and MDs
What make you think this is a threat to MD? MD reaches further than to just swipping music from commercial CDs. You can't cart that CD recorder in your pocket and make a recording of live music. Can't take it to your music lesson and record it, nor can you record a lecture with it. Nope, CD copiers are only for one segment of the population. SleazyBreezy wrote: And now, Sony has taken the first steps to kill of the MiniDisc in North America altogether: the RCD-W1, a dual-deck CD Recorder. http://www.bestbuy.com/Detail.asp?m=1cat=31scat=243e=11045615 -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: portable solid state players
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === well hopefully it will make it this time :P ok i was thinking today (for a change) and thought of something that might be considered a novel idea. a lot of the newer solid state players are not just mp3 they are wma/mp3/etc... format playable players. i believe even some of the cd players are that way too. what i would like to see is one of these incorperate the atrac codec into thier players. think about it, it's what most of us have been wanting all along, something that does sound good (atrac) and a larger medium of storage. I for one would enjoy seeing something like this come into reality. anyway it's a thought that will probably upset people on both sides of the arguement so argue away kids. - Original Message - From: "Robert J Lynn Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: Re: MD: portable solid state players Not a thing came through. - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM Subject: Re: MD: portable solid state players did any of my original msg come through? thanks matt - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: MD: portable solid state players === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable solid state players
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Actually, I'd prefer it the otherway around or even a hybrid of the two I am not much of audiophile but I do know ATRAC sounds better than MP3/WMA/Etc but the reason I chose MD over MP3 players for the medium itself. I like the idea of having small and well-protected(well..scract proof) that can hold 74min of music (well...now thanks to MDLP that increased) all for very very cheap price. Only if someone could find a way to increase the recording speed on MDs from computer to MDman I'd be all over that along with whole lotta other people...I'd bet. Once that is done I am sure manufactures will start adding whole lotta of extra featureswhich we'd benefit from. SONY should spend time and money on the MD medium itself rather than the ATRAC codeccause as we all know new codecs come around promising to be the one but they never live up to the claimby investing in the medium itself I am sure there will be MD recorders that are flash upgradable that can make use new codecs as they come...dont get me wrong...I'd love to see ATRAC win itbut we all know general public dont care about the codec...they just want the music...and most of them want it for free and of the net...err napster I mean. So sum up my dumb ramblings...ATRAC is good...but wont make it :( MD the medium itself...awesome...wont make it if SONY or even other manufactures dont make it directly competitive to other portables :( MP3s more specifically...one immediate way to do this is by making audio transfer from PC to MD...same speed as MP3 players Just my worthless two cents -icantelu PS I'm fairly new here...by that I mean few months old subscriber and semi-happy owner of 722 :) - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: MD: portable solid state players === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === well hopefully it will make it this time :P ok i was thinking today (for a change) and thought of something that might be considered a novel idea. a lot of the newer solid state players are not just mp3 they are wma/mp3/etc... format playable players. i believe even some of the cd players are that way too. what i would like to see is one of these incorperate the atrac codec into thier players. think about it, it's what most of us have been wanting all along, something that does sound good (atrac) and a larger medium of storage. I for one would enjoy seeing something like this come into reality. anyway it's a thought that will probably upset people on both sides of the arguement so argue away kids. - Original Message - From: "Robert J Lynn Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: Re: MD: portable solid state players Not a thing came through. - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM Subject: Re: MD: portable solid state players did any of my original msg come through? thanks matt - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: MD: portable solid state players === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Timer Recording
I personally wouldn't bother using timers with my MD portable. Instead, I prefer to record audio programs using my Hi-Fi VCR...a breeze for multi-event recording. The sound quality is quite good, and the VCR compression is a benefit, helping to prevent midrange loss during CD dubbs. Besides, I can remaster the tape by running the signal through my Rane graphic EQ, and/or BBE Sonic Maximizer onto MD or CD to enhance the recording. Mark Dottle - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: best portable player
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:51:28 -0800, Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got an E900 from a friend in Japan for $200, so I'm sure the cheaper models (E500, E700, E800) are cheaper -- but you'd have to know someone there. Other than that, you'd have to try a place like Micmic.com.hk: http://Micmic.com.hk/videogame/av/minidisk/md-m_player.htm They have several MDLP players for under $200. Thanks ... that's what I'm looking for. Any guess on when these will show up in the US? -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
