RE: MD: Earbuds
Helo, After joining the list for a couple of months, and finaly acquired a SONY MZ-R70 for personal use 2 days ago, i need now some help/information! What's the diference in the sound that cames out of Left Rigth earphones. Diferent frequencies? it happens that I'm deaf from my left ear, so i can only use the rigth earbud... but, what am I loosing then? The use of a left and right source give's the illusion of a sound stage. When the audio is mixed the different channels are panned L or R to set up there position on the sound stage ie. a kick drum or vocals wouldn't have a different between L R channels to place them in the centre, where as an instrument on the far left of the stage would have more level in the left channel than in the right which gives the illusion it's to the left. Really depends on the individual trax what the difference's between the two earphones are. Your best bet would be to record your MD's in mono, you lost the stereo sound stage but you gain twice the disc capacity (ie. 148 minutes on a 74 min disc), and both earphones with have the same audio information when played back. And / Or you could convert the headphones to mono. A stereo minijack (male) to mono minijack (female) adapter will do the job and cost next to nothing (will take both LR from the MD and put them in to one earphone). Is there anyway to use both (L R) connectors in only you ear? will i take any advantage in byuing one? i hope my question is clear! somtime my english get's a bit hard to understand! thanks anyway Jose Pedro Sa --matt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Earbuds
What's the diference in the sound that cames out of Left Rigth earphones. Diferent frequencies? Not exactly. With stereo audio the sound of certain things will move from ear to ear. Because a persons ear are in two different places, he/she hears two different versions of the same sound. Sometimes recording enginers will get clever and purposfully move (pan) things from left to right and back. If you can only hear in your right ear, then when the sound moves to your left ear it will drop out totally. to use both (L R) connectors in only you ear? will i take any advantage in buying one? You could buy a single mono earbud (probably hard to find of good quality) and buy an adapter that will convert the stereo jack on the MD player to mono. This will give you both left and right channels in the same single earbud. If you want to use the same earbuds you have now, then you could buy a stereo to mono, and a mono to stereo adaptor and chain them together. This way you will get the same thing in both left and right earbuds, and you can just cut the other one off or something. i hope my question is clear! somtime my english get's a bit hard to understand! I hope my answer is clear, my English isn't so great either, and it's my only language! Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: earbuds
Hmm. That's exactly the comparison I've been making for two weeks. I've owned my 580's for a couple of years now, and my Etys arrived 3 weeks ago. First of all, they are two very different units, and therefore they have different traits. The 580s, due to being circumaural, will seem to be heavier on the bass than the Etys at first listen. The 580s transmit a bit of vibration to your head, so you can actually feel some of the bass besides listening to it. The Etys are so small you won't feel any vibration, so at first listen you might wonder why they are so bass shy. They aren't. The Etys bass is beautiful, very well defined, precise and taut, with zero boominess in it, and their response is ruler flat to 40 Hz, and down by 3 dB at 20 Hz (incredible!). So yes, they beat the Senns in this area. Both have very nice midrange. Just wait until you hear a vocal ensemble on either unit; they are both great! In the highs department, there is a marked difference. The Senns are very detailed for any headphone, but the Etys blow them away. There must be something about having the driver firing milimiters away from your timpani, because you will be hearing sounds you didn't notice before. The Etys are like microscopes; no detail goes by without you noticing it. Again, the Senns are not bad in this aspect, but the size of the driver and the distance from the timpani make the Etymotics the indisputed champ in this respect. Also, the impulse response of the Etys is the best I've ever seen in any headphone, due to their low mass and small size, so they are also very "quick" sounding. As for sound quality, the Senns have a well earned reputation for laid-back sound. Think being in a concert hall in the middle to back rows and you get the idea of what this means. It is very detailed, but relaxed at the same time. Some people find this sound boring. I bought an X-Can V2 amplifier (recently discontinued) by Musical Fidelity, which is a very aggressive hybrid amp, to cure this condition. The sound I get from this setup is simply amazing, although it is still a bit laid-back. The Etys are another story. They are as neutral as any headphone I've ever heard. Even Staxes, which I am using as a basis for comparison. In fact, if you have ever heard a Stax, you can imagine how Etymotics sound. Dare I say... perfect? Both are comfortable units, but you must get used first to an ear canal unit. Depending on your ear, it might be very comfortable or you might not tolerate it. Etys are shipped with plastic tips or foams; you can use whichever you feel better with, or you can have a custom earmold made. And getting a good seal between the driver and your inner ear is a must for good sound (it takes a lot of practice). The Sennheisers are among the most comfortable phones I've worn, and they don't need strange, yoga-like positions to insert them. Any Etymotics user knows what I am talking about :) Whichever you like more is a matter your own preferences. I think Etys are way more precise, neutral and transparent than the Senn 580 (or the 600, for that matter) and so they are the best dynamic headphone I've ever heard in those terms. But... the 580s add a sense of coloration and rich warmth that I like a lot. If I had to keep just one set, I would keep the Etys, though; they are simply wonderful, portable, and precise to a sickening degree. Hope this helps! Francisco. - Original Message - From: "John Small" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:39 PM Subject: Re: MD: earbuds On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:31:57 -0600, "Francisco J. Huerta" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am tempted to say they are the best dynamic headphones on the planet. And they are the size of standard earbuds. Highly recommended, if you have the money. Francisco, how does the S compare with the Sennheiser 580's, more or less? I've been thinking about the Etymotics but have remained on the sidelines. There are many many times I would perfer the noise attentuation they offer over the open type. Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: earbuds
I frequent the MiniDISCussion headphone boards, as well as the HeadWize boards and Headroom's own boards. There is rarely "agreement" on headphones, but there is nearly unanimous agreement on the following hierarchy of earbuds: 1) Etymotics ER4S or ER4P (S for use with a headphone amp, P for use directly from a portable). Not only the best earbud available, but one of the best headphones of any design. $269 2) Sony MDR-E888. Not nearly as good as the Etymotics, but clearly better than anything else. $69 3) A close race: Sony EX70 (not sure, but I think around $40-$50) and Sennheiser MX500 ($20). The EX70 has much better isolation (more of a "plug" type) and therefore better bass, but the Sennheiser supposedly has better overall sound (but no isolation). I'm a big headphone enthusiast -- I own the Etymotics ER4S, Sennheiser 580s, Grado SR-60, and Koss KSC/35, and have auditioned tons of others. I actually purchased the Koss "Plug" and was VERY, VERY, VERY disappointed. The sound was muddy, with boomy, poor bass. I even tried the "fix" for them from Headwize that supposedly dramatically increases sound quality. They were indeed better, but still nothing to write home about. The reviews of the Plug have pretty much agreed with my evaluation. If you only want to spend $20, get the Sennheisers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: earbuds
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:10:23 -0600, "Francisco J. Huerta" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this helps! Yes! One rarely hears anything negative about either the Etys or the Senns. A high recommendation from any list where mostly problems are reported! -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: earbuds
"Jim Gray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may have already been answered some time ago, but what should I pay for a really decent pair of earbuds, and what model is recommended? thanx... I sent this earlier from work from a Yahoo account, but I don't think it went through, so I'm sending again... I frequent the MiniDISCussion headphone boards, as well as the HeadWize boards and Headroom's own boards. There is rarely "agreement" on headphones, but there is nearly unanimous agreement on the following hierarchy of earbuds: 1) Etymotics ER4S or ER4P (S for use with a headphone amp, P for use directly from a portable). Not only the best earbud available, but one of the best headphones of any design. $269 2) Sony MDR-E888. Not nearly as good as the Etymotics, but clearly better than anything else. $69 3) A close race: Sony EX70 (not sure, but I think around $40-$50) and Sennheiser MX500 ($20). The EX70 has much better isolation (more of a "plug" type) and therefore better bass, but the Sennheiser supposedly has better overall sound (but no isolation). I'm a big headphone enthusiast -- I own the Etymotics ER4S, Sennheiser 580s, Grado SR-60, and Koss KSC/35, and have auditioned tons of others. I actually purchased the Koss "Plug" and was VERY, VERY, VERY disappointed. The sound was muddy, with boomy, poor bass. I even tried the "fix" for them from Headwize that supposedly dramatically increases sound quality. They were indeed better, but still nothing to write home about. The reviews of the Plug have pretty much agreed with my evaluation. If you only want to spend $20, get the Sennheisers. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === $20-25USD should get you something decent. I'm quite happy with the KOSS "The Plug" set that I just purchased. On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Jim Gray wrote: === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === This may have already been answered some time ago, but what should I pay = for a really decent pair of earbuds, and what model is recommended? = thanx... === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: earbuds
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Many people like Sony's MDR-E888LP earbuds (79.99 retail price, 59.99 at www.etronics.com) - http://www.sonystyle.com/sonystyle/4784/5334/7560/4890/4901/265.default.html but for a cheaper price, the Sennheiser MX-500 are a great deal (under 25 dollars usually)- http://www.sennheiser.com/headphones/dynamic/dh_1d005.htm Paul Mike Burger wrote: === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === $20-25USD should get you something decent. I'm quite happy with the KOSS "The Plug" set that I just purchased. On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Jim Gray wrote: === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === This may have already been answered some time ago, but what should I pay = for a really decent pair of earbuds, and what model is recommended? = thanx... === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: earbuds
From: "Jim Gray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] This may have already been answered some time ago, but what should I pay = for a really decent pair of earbuds, and what model is recommended? = thanx... I agree with Mike...Koss' 'The Plug' is great sounding and goes for $19.95 (USD) plus tax. The Etymotic Research plugs are absolutely awesome of course...but too pricey. Don C. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: earbuds
The Etymotic Research plugs are absolutely awesome of course...but too
pricey.
Don C.
I agree, Don. For about $269, you get performance almost on the same level
as Stax (Electrostatic headphones) in a portable package. Also, you can
choose the "P" model ("P"ower, for underpowered portables) or the "S" model
(for headphone amplifiers, the one I use). The "S" model is heaven on earth;
it provides a 20-40 dB attenuation of outside sounds, and its frequency
response mimics the human ear's. Most people think the "S" is a far better
earphone than the "P", but Don Wilson, one of the designers of the
earphones, is toying around with the idea of making a "universal" model, one
which will have the frequency response of the "S" with the higher efficiency
of the "P" (yes, I am on the waiting list for that one).
I am tempted to say they are the best dynamic headphones on the planet. And
they are the size of standard earbuds. Highly recommended, if you have the
money.
Francisco.
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Re: MD: earbuds
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:31:57 -0600, "Francisco J. Huerta" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am tempted to say they are the best dynamic headphones on the planet. And they are the size of standard earbuds. Highly recommended, if you have the money. Francisco, how does the S compare with the Sennheiser 580's, more or less? I've been thinking about the Etymotics but have remained on the sidelines. There are many many times I would perfer the noise attentuation they offer over the open type. Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joni Mustonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best "loud and clear" earbuds that i can by ? Do you want to spend $269? ;-) If so, http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/EtymoticER4Sasp.asp http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/EtymoticER4P.asp Are head and shoulders above anything else on the market. Otherwise, people seem to like the Sony 888's - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: earbuds
The best earbuds, for me, are SONY FONTOPIA IN-EAR EARBUDS MDRE888LP. Personally I don't like or use earbuds... they are not really good for my ear's health... However, you can buy these earbuds from Minidisco : http://www.minidisco.com/minispecs/sonyfontopia888.html for $70.00 Planet Minidisc : http://www.planetminidisc.com/mdr-e888lp.html for $80.00 (free shipping) and I'm sure they can match Minidisco price if you call them. I used to sell those headphone for $65.00 but since I don't really like them, I stop to sell it... Anyway, These two minidisc store will be able to please you with these headphones... Peter. - Pierre Forest - Kheops Minidisc Owner Kheops Minidisc - Your one stop shop for all your minidisc needs ! http://www.kheopsminidisc.com Blanks 74mn minidisc as low as $1.60 each ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joni Mustonen Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: earbuds Best "loud and clear" earbud´s that i can by ? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
