Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 198

2005-08-25 Thread Bucks2
My 01 S class MB does that too. Says how many miles before service and checks 
the level. Wasn't it 00 that MB offered that first? MB counts down the miles 
to service. Seems like it starts a 300 or so then at 100 then when due, if I 
remember right. I change when it's convenient for me. So if it's within a K or 
so it gets done. 

There's something about buying an $80,000.00 car and saving $50.00 on an oil 
change that makes me twitch. 

Ken


In a message dated 8/24/2005 12:28:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Subject: [MBZ] Oil Condition Sensor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII





Newer Cadillac's have a display in the dash area showing Oil Life
expressed as a percentage, it will typically go to 10,000 miles before
showing an oil life of 0%.
There is also one for the transmission fluid.

An industry first in new vehicle features, this oil probe can determine
and detect the actual level and remaining engine oil life. It can reduce
the need for costly engine repairs due to poor oil maintenance as well as
prevent unnecessary oil changes.

This was from a plug for a 2005 STS.

Interesting,

Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 84kmi


Re: [MBZ] website...

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

oh, thats nice.

Rusty Cullens wrote:


But it's going to be a info site too soon.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:31 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] website...

thats a parts website

Dave M. wrote:



We already have the website - it's just that some folks prefer the
email format. Here's the link:

http://www.buymbparts.com/forum/index.php

:-)

-Dave M.




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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] website... was: Oh joy! Another oil thread!

We need a site, like mbz.org, where these discussions
can be put in article form and new list members can be
directed there. When I joined the list and asked about
oil, I got the same OH HERE WE GO AGAIN - I was
somewhat taken aback, but now I understand as I have
seen the same thread several times in the last year.

BUT, keep in mind, that it was very helpful for me and
for any new person to the list...we just DON'T KNOW
unless it's explained...and the misconceptions are
cleared up. After 10,000+ miles on M1, I have almost
no  leaking (much more on dino).

Anyway, a website with articles, amny of which could
be taken from the oild mbz site with permission of the
authors, would be very useful.

Christopher



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Re: [MBZ] website... was: Oh joy! Another oil thread! and old site

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Yea, mine crashed too, and I was sick of it.

BenzBarn wrote:


I keep talking to Richard and he keeps telling me it will happen. Of course,
my own web site crashed along with everything else. Somehow my concerns are
more about my own site




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Re: [MBZ] website...

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Right, I am quite familiar with the forum.  Dont have much time to sift 
thru all that stuff though too often.


Dave M. wrote:


Huh...? Click the link... there's a web forum too. A nice thread-based
tool with ability to post attachments, insert images, searchable, also
you can sign up for email notification when there are replies to
topics you're interested in. Neat stuff.

=)

+dm



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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:30:32 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] website...

thats a parts website

Dave M. wrote:



We already have the website - it's just that some folks prefer the
email format. Here's the link:

http://www.buymbparts.com/forum/index.php

:-)

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Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Looks like a nice car for swine.

Joe Mendyka wrote:


http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=12dt4k6q.5id2sia2x=0h=1y=dfakfv

Here's a link to the pics I took of my car.  I hope that they give a
fair representation of what I've got.  If there's anything else
someone would like a picture of, let me know.

-Joe

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Re: [MBZ] crap in tanks and TOILET PAPER (?!?!??!) filters....

2005-08-25 Thread Don Teresa Merriman
50 years ago the stuff you wiped your butt with was a paper that did NOT 
break down to well in a wet envinronment and then came along companies like 
Georgia Pacific and about 30 years ago they developed a butt wipe paper that 
was designed to break down with moisture. Got any moisture in your 
crankcase? Now about 10 years ago a company named Oberg in Everett 
Washington came out with a fine screen filter that will stop particles that 
filters like Mann, Fram, Purcolator could only dream about slowing down. The 
filter worked so well that you had to have one with a tell tail light unit 
that told when the oil flow was slowing down due to the filters efficiency. 
I have seen race engines assembled in a clean room then set up on a engine 
dyno and shut down after a brief run because the Oberg unit was too 
efficient. The Oberg unit would remove small machine particle's, lint from 
hand towels used by the machinist/mechanics, stuff the hot tank chemicals 
did not get, well you get the idea. 
 Adios amigos Don in Mexico

 On 8/24/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 02:15:11PM -0400, Marshall Booth wrote:
   TOILET PAPER FILTERS - what is everyone talking about?
   Real toilet paper or the Hengst fuel filters that look
   a bit like a roll of toilet paper? If the former, how
   do you do it?
 
  Filters that use toilet paper as the filter element have been available
  for at least 50 years. They are VERY effective, but must be changed
  rather frequently in most situations. They CAN provide excellent
  filtering for fine (in the 1 micron range) particulate. They remove soot
  beautifully (Mercedes disposes off soot by changing the oil). Using a TP
  filter, one VW diesel owner did not CHANGE his Mobil 1 oil for 60kmi and
  when it was finally changed it was still honey colored and the TBN had
  not dropped more than about 50%. Problem was that he had to change the
  filter at least every 2500 miles or the filter would occlude, and with
  each filter change, a qt of fresh oil had to be added. The actual cost
  for the 60kmi was only about $10-12 less than if he had change the
  oil/filter in the conventional way - and there was the labor and
  disposal problems of changing the filter every 2500 miles (24 times) for
  60kmi of driving.
 
 I have one of these on one of my cherokees - a frantz oil filter. It is
 literally a roll of toilet paper as the element, but it's not paper I'd
 want anywhere near my bathroom, for fear that it got used. I think 1000 
 grit
 sandpaper would be more comfortable. The oil filter that the jeep was
 supposed to get is NLA, and the one that everyone tries to sell me rubs on
 the motor mount and leaks like a sieve as a result, so I have to use a
 cheesy FWD cadillac filter. The PO wasn't convinced that the caddy filter
 provided enough filtration.
 
 *shrug*
 
 To me, the toilet paper soaked in oil makes a great campfire starter in
 the desert. I'm looking forward to lighting off the one that got changed
 after the fuel pump diaphragm went and the pump started pumping gasoline
 in the oil :)
 
 K
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

how much?

Alan Duff wrote:

I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission. The 
smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in excellent 
condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection 
problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the fall. 
Would like to sell it if anyone is interested


Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

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Re: [MBZ] website... was: Oh joy! Another oil thread!

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

macswine, you never did send me that message offline.

Christopher McCann wrote:


We COULD have an article on oil that covers basics and
gives the various positions on the matter. There is
so much written about it in posts, that I doubt it
would be hard to find people to make their cases for
the article. Just think of it - no more oil threads! 


CM

--- Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



It only has top level stuff from mbz.org, and a few
bits here and there when
you try to dig deeper. None of the meat seems to
have survived.

I will volunteer to edit some stuff together, but I
am NOT starting with
anything even close to an oil thread. Or, my tires
are better than your
tires. God give me strength.

Kaleb, I am going to send you a message privately.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i know even less about computers than i do about car
parts :(


At 12:07 PM 8/24/2005, you wrote:
Is it possible to spider the wayback website for the
info?

On 8/24/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yes, it would be nice to salvage what we can.  it
does not appear as if
mbz.org http://mbz.org  is ever coming back


At 10:57 AM 8/24/2005, you wrote:


We need a site, like mbz.org http://mbz.org ,


where these discussions


can be put in article form and new list members can


be


directed there. When I joined the list and asked


about


oil, I got the same OH HERE WE GO AGAIN - I was
somewhat taken aback, but now I understand as I


have


seen the same thread several times in the last


year.




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Re: [MBZ] website...

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
We already have the articles, there will be a website soon, its already 
in the works.  Just have to be patient.


Luther Gulseth wrote:


Rusty is the one who will say YES to the idea.  He also already pays someone to 
maintain his website.  Also, I do not have the archives from Dick's website 
stored

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To: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] website...

so why don't you do something about it, you dumb arkie



Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] proper and best fluids

2005-08-25 Thread redghost
Always change the FUSES!  All fuses, all the time.  No amount of fresh 
fluid will help if the fuses are not NEW


On Wednesday, August 24, 2005, at 03:34 AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:








Gary,

Welcome to the list !  You asked about what are good fluids to use.  
There

is not a consensus of which motor oil to use but I think that the below
suggestions would be good choices.  Some people seem to think that 
regular

oil is fine and have had good results with it.

motor oil - Mobil 1 5w-40 (or any weight)
transmission - auto - dextron III, any brand, some use Mobil 1 for more
consistent shifting in the Winter.
rear end - Mobil 1 75-90 w
radiator - Zerex G-05 or Mercedes Fluid 

Don't forget to change your powersteering filter and use the same 
dextron

III to fill.  Also change your brake fluid.

Good Luck,

Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 84kmi



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Re: [MBZ] proper and best fluids

2005-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Marshall Booth wrote:
 I'm NOT fond of anything made by Castrol since they chose to call
 their hydrocracked group III oil synthetic. That's just plain dishonest
 as far as I'm concerned.

Me too. Syntec may have even been a bit better than M1 when first introduced,
but I didn't try it until it was group III, and it just didn't hold up.
Consumption was higher, and after 1,000 miles or so, oil pressure was lower.

When I read about the truth in advertising claims, I quit buying Castrol brake
fluid. Fortunately, Valvoline now has good DOT4 that's cheaper and easier to
find than Castrol.



[MBZ] Metric T Fitting source?

2005-08-25 Thread dave walton
I'm looking for a Metric T fitting in brass or steel. It looks to be 12mm 
diameter with 1.5mm thread spacing. 
Would consider using Metric-to-NPT adapters, but McMaster does not have 
anything smaller than 16mm.
All this talk of bypass filtration has peaked my curiosity and I'm looking 
to tie into the oil pressure sending unit connection - or perhaps someone 
has a better idea?

Any help appreciated

Thanks

-Dave Walton


Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Was it my imagination, or did one side of the car look not too bad and the 
other side of the car look a bit on the rough side? 

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Looks like a nice car for swine.
 
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, I seem to recall that.

LT Don wrote:

Was it my imagination, or did one side of the car look not too bad and 
the other side of the car look a bit on the rough side?


On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


Looks like a nice car for swine.


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Re: [MBZ] website... was: Oh joy! Another oil thread!

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Chris: 

Let's first sort out transubstantiation. Then we will tackle the difficult 
issues such as Mobil 1. 

On 8/24/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 We COULD have an article on oil that covers basics and
 gives the various positions on the matter. There is
 so much written about it in posts, that I doubt it
 would be hard to find people to make their cases for
 the article. Just think of it - no more oil threads!
 
 CM
 
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
He isn't answering, is he? Luther is probably already there signing papers. 

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 how much?
 
 Alan Duff wrote:
 
  I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission. The
  smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in excellent
  condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection
  problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the 
 fall.
  Would like to sell it if anyone is interested
 
  Alan Duff
  Knoxville, TN
 
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Re: [MBZ] Metric T Fitting source?

2005-08-25 Thread Loren Faeth
Just T into the synflex lint with a 1/4 inch synflex T.  Or if you have an 
older car, T in to the smaller metal line with a 1/8 inch compression 
T  Did that YEARS ago on my 200D  It runs 86 PSI at highway speed, warmed 
up.  It will go over 100 PSI cold if you are not careful.  I have not done 
it with newer cars.  pegged at 3 bar is good.


Don't know what car you have, but this works for all the 60-90 MBs I have seen.

At 07:05 PM 8/24/2005, you wrote:
I'm looking for a Metric T fitting in brass or steel. It looks to be 
12mm diameter with 1.5mm thread spacing.
Would consider using Metric-to-NPT adapters, but McMaster does not have 
anything smaller than 16mm.
All this talk of bypass filtration has peaked my curiosity and I'm looking 
to tie into the oil pressure sending unit connection - or perhaps someone 
has a better idea?


Any help appreciated

Thanks

-Dave Walton

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

oh well

LT Don wrote:

He isn't answering, is he?  Luther is probably already there signing 
papers.




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Re: [MBZ] Metric T Fitting source?

2005-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
dave walton wrote:
 All this talk of bypass filtration has peaked my curiosity and I'm looking to 
 tie into
 the oil pressure sending unit connection - or perhaps someone has a better 
 idea?

It beats drilling a hole in the oil filter housing. 

I bought an oil pressure gauge at JC Whitney many years ago with a metric 
fittings
kit, it was intended to tee into an oil pressure switch installation in import 
cars.
12mm sounds a little big for that kit, and I don't know where I put it so I 
can't check
it.



Re: [MBZ] website... was: Oh joy! Another oil thread!

2005-08-25 Thread Christopher McCann
ROTFLMAO! It's the same issue - where do you think
synthetic oil comes from?! I look up Mobil 1 in the
Summa Theologica tonight (I think it's in the Secunda
Secundae) and give you all the Thomistic answer
tomorrow.

:-)

Christopher


--- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chris: 
 
 Let's first sort out transubstantiation. Then we
 will tackle the difficult 
 issues such as Mobil 1. 
 
 On 8/24/05, Christopher McCann
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  We COULD have an article on oil that covers basics
 and
  gives the various positions on the matter. There
 is
  so much written about it in posts, that I doubt it
  would be hard to find people to make their cases
 for
  the article. Just think of it - no more oil
 threads!
  
  CM
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car

2005-08-25 Thread Joe Mendyka
 LT Don wrote:
 
  Was it my imagination, or did one side of the car look not too bad and
  the other side of the car look a bit on the rough side?

That would be an appropriate characterization of the body.  The car is
driveable and I feel that it would hold up on a 1k mile trip.  The
problem, as I've mentioned before, is that the key does not turn. 
I've been told that this is due to a busted key tumbler and steering
wheel lock.  Also, if you planned to take it on the highway, it shakes
between 60 and 65.  Probably needs an alignment.  I've driven with it
like that for almost a year.  That's probably not great for the car,
but I go to school full time and work part time so I do what I can
when I can and when I can afford it.  I've changed the oil a few times
in the year that I've owned it and changed the air and fuel filters. 
I'd like to think I can get $1000+ for the car.  If anyone has an
offer, feel free to message me privately.

BTW, I'm in Wallingford CT which is near New Haven if you're in the
Northeast and want to come by and take a look.



Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Joe:

What I said was only an observation. I grew up in snow country (WV) and 
spent my military career in snow country (MA/NY/DC). In those years, I don't 
think I've ever seen a vehicle so clean on one side with rust on the 
other. 

Don


Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Actually, I think I have a better chance of being nominated as the Prom King 
for 2006 in my small town than we do of Luther buying a gasser. At least I'd 
hope so. 

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 oh well
 
 LT Don wrote:
 
  He isn't answering, is he? Luther is probably already there signing
  papers.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Well he did buy that 300E

LT Don wrote:

Actually, I think I have a better chance of being nominated as the Prom 
King for 2006 in my small town than we do of Luther buying a gasser. At 
least I'd hope so.




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Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car

2005-08-25 Thread Joe Mendyka
On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joe:
  
  What I said was only an observation. I grew up in snow country (WV) and
 spent my military career in snow country (MA/NY/DC). In those years, I don't
 think I've ever seen a vehicle so clean on one side with rust on the
 other. 
  
  Don

Well, if you look very closely (I tried to get this in the pics, but
I'm no photographer), you'll see SLIGHT discoloration in places where
it was touched up but the paint does not match exactly.  I can see how
that would seem odd. :-P



[MBZ] How to change power steering fluid

2005-08-25 Thread meadedillon

LT Don,

I'd recommend trying the following:

1) remove cover from PS reservoir.
2) remove plug from bottom of steering box and allow PS fluid to drain (may 
need to move steering off dead center to get the flow going)

3) replace filter with new
4) install plug
5) fill with PS fluid (I'll recomend M1 ATF because of the extreme cold in 
IA).


The plug I'm referring to is where the centering tool is screwed in to 
ensure the box is centered when the front end is aligned.  I've never used 
this procedure myself so let me know how it works!  I've attached procedure 
46-412, which shows the centering screw plug (#060) on pages 6  7


Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
'85 300TD 323k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 150k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC





Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread TimothyPilgrim
LOL! Whoa there boy. No decisions yet. IF the time comes, it'll be
fair market value. IE not in Kaleb's $500 domain.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/24/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how much for the wagon?
 
 On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:44:21 -0500, TimothyPilgrim
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Just got to figure out where to park it then. I've got a 1-car garage
  and a 1.5 car driveway. I've got one Golf, one W123 wagon, and 2
  motorcycles... Makes for a full lot.
 
  I might have to sell the wagon. :/
 
  Tim
  1982 300TD Moby
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Oh yeah, that'd look good. Texas car imported to Canada in October (on
paper) and then reimported back into the US the following August! LOL!

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 $100 and I can leave at dawn tomorrow to come pick it up.
  
  Do NOT sell it to Kleb, whatever you do.
  
  Don
 
  
 
 On 24 Aug 2005 19:13:05 -, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission. The
  smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in excellent
  condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection
  problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the fall. 
  Would like to sell it if anyone is interested
  
  Alan Duff
  Knoxville, TN
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread TimothyPilgrim
$501. Just for you dude. :)

Tim
1982 300TD Moby (who's worth a lot more than $501)

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how much?
 
 Alan Duff wrote:
 
  I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission. The
  smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in excellent
  condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection
  problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the fall.
  Would like to sell it if anyone is interested
 
  Alan Duff
  Knoxville, TN
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Alan Duff

I'd like to get $2,000.

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?



how much?

Alan Duff wrote:


I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission. The
smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in excellent
condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection
problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the fall.
Would like to sell it if anyone is interested

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Was the coupe a gasser? 

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well he did buy that 300E
 
 LT Don wrote:
 
  Actually, I think I have a better chance of being nominated as the Prom
  King for 2006 in my small town than we do of Luther buying a gasser. At
  least I'd hope so.
 
 
 --
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
If I had the $2000 discretionary I'd already be on my way to pick it up. 

On 8/24/05, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'd like to get $2,000.
 
 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?
 
 
  how much?
 
  Alan Duff wrote:
 
  I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission. The
  smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in excellent
  condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection
  problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the 
 fall.
  Would like to sell it if anyone is interested
 
  Alan Duff
  Knoxville, TN
 
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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
  85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Daymn!

I'm on my way now. Let's see, it's 9:30 pm in Toronto now. It's 2
hours to the border, then a 4 hour wait there to cross after getting
the rubber glove love treatment.

You say the fuel injection is the only problem?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/24/05, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to get $2,000.
 
 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN
 
 - Original Message -
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 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?
 
 
  how much?
 
  Alan Duff wrote:
 
  I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission. The
  smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in excellent
  condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection
  problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the fall.
  Would like to sell it if anyone is interested
 
  Alan Duff
  Knoxville, TN
 
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   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Clean and sober is nice. 

On 8/24/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 However, as of this moment I think he
 elected to get off the pot, instead.
 
 Mac
 
 


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1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.


[MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
One of the SDL's is not acting right.  Every so often while the wife is 
out and about, the thing wont start when she goes to leave wherever. 
The battery is just not strong enough to turn it over.  Usually hooking 
up a jumper pack gets it going.  It can do this once a week, or go many 
weeks and not do it.  So just now I put the meter on it and with the car 
off get about 12.something volts at the battery.  When car started I was 
getting about 13.8 or so then dropped down to about 13.5 to 13.3.  Turn 
on AC and headlights, it drops to about 12.8 or so, cant remember 
exactly but it was below 13.  So do these numbers sound right?  Is my 
alternator weak?  Battery?  Will check battery again in the morning to 
see what its at after sitting all night.

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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
How many individuals can start a sentence with those four words? 

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 One of the SDL's ... 
 



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If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.


Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
TimothyPilgrim wrote:
 
 You say the fuel injection is the only problem?

And the A/C compressor isn't mounted, so no serp belt until he
gets the mounting bolts for the compressor.
Runs rich and smokes black. I just talked to him on the phone. 
Sounds like a nice enough project car, but I can't drive it home
as is.



[MBZ] Oh LORD

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960S-MERCEDES-2-DR-HARDTOP-FUEL-INJ-6-CYL-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ4571152908QQcategoryZ39405QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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[MBZ] did anybody notice?

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The server was down for about 3 minutes.  Thats how real software 
updates are done.  They dont take weeks to months.

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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] e-coli

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
True - they're OK in the lower part, not not ANY fun in the upper part.

On 8/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 Sure they are. Your belly is full of e-coli right now. It's the 0157-H7
 strain that causes the problems. They are more aggresive than the regular
 guys and so they eat the lining of your guts and cause bleeding. 
   
 Ken 
   
   


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Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Alan Duff
I had one indy do some work and it improved a little. He was competent so it 
is likely not an easy fix. Runs rough and blows black smoke. My new indy 
said it could be as much as $1,500 to fix, as the system is complex and you 
have to work through as you go. Looks just like this one.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2BA36CAB

Alan
- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?



Daymn!

I'm on my way now. Let's see, it's 9:30 pm in Toronto now. It's 2
hours to the border, then a 4 hour wait there to cross after getting
the rubber glove love treatment.

You say the fuel injection is the only problem?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/24/05, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'd like to get $2,000.

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

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To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?


 how much?

 Alan Duff wrote:

 I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission. The
 smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in 
 excellent

 condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection
 problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the 
 fall.

 Would like to sell it if anyone is interested

 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN

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  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Luther Gulseth
look at the signature, it tells all!  Do remember this Sir LT, I'm dying  
for a '78 450SL.(why '78 do you ask?  That, old man, is my year of  
birth!)


On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:13:44 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Was the coupe a gasser?

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well he did buy that 300E

LT Don wrote:

 Actually, I think I have a better chance of being nominated as the  
Prom
 King for 2006 in my small town than we do of Luther buying a gasser.  
At

 least I'd hope so.




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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)



Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 One of the SDL's is not acting right.  

If it started when she left home, you'd think she could drive quite
a ways without an alt and it would still restart. 
The intermittent nature of the problem makes me wonder if the
GP relay is sticking on sometimes.



Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Have you thought of going into auto sales as a profession? You'd be a 
natural -- to starve to death. 

On 8/24/05, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I had one indy do some work and it improved a little. He was competent so 
 it
 is likely not an easy fix. 
 



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1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

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Re: [MBZ] more on a NEW strange noise

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
Check the wiper for the horn switch -- 

On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea ... have also noticed that the sound comes every quarter turn of the
 steering wheel, but only when turning left. 
 
 
 On 8/24/05, andrew strasfogel  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sounds like you're getting warm 
  
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Richard Smith
Kaleb, is that my old SDL?

On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How many individuals can start a sentence with those four words? 
 
 On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  One of the SDL's ... 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
WOW, where did you run off too?  Yes, it is actually.  Its a very 
strange car indeed.  The cracked head seems to have cured itself for the 
time being.  Im quite sure that is only temporary though.


On the charging problem, yes,  its your old car.  The relay for the 
seats is unplugged so thats not it, or shouldnt be anyways.  Needing to 
hurry up and get the euro project done so I can take this car off the 
road to give it a going thru.


Richard Smith wrote:


Kaleb, is that my old SDL?

On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How many individuals can start a sentence with those four words? 


On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

One of the SDL's ... 





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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Peter Frederick
The brushes are worn out on the voltage regulator.  Get a new one, pull 
the splash pan, remove the old one (two screws) put  the new one in, 
problem goes away.


You must have at least 13.5 V at max load above 1200 rpm to charge the 
battery.


This is a common problem -- you have about 200,000 miles, right?


Peter




Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

, yep 201K miles to be exact.

Peter Frederick wrote:

The brushes are worn out on the voltage regulator.  Get a new one, pull 
the splash pan, remove the old one (two screws) put  the new one in, 
problem goes away.


You must have at least 13.5 V at max load above 1200 rpm to charge the 
battery.


This is a common problem -- you have about 200,000 miles, right?


Peter


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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Oh joy! Another oil thread!

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
I'm going to get it analyzed and wait for the results before I change
it this time since I'm more confident that I'm not burning up the
engine. This will be another 10,000 mile run. We'll see -- -- I'l
report the results.

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so you are saying you can probably go 20k between changes?
 

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Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



[MBZ] 450 SEL

2005-08-25 Thread Alan Duff

Luther:

This guys lot is a mile from my house. Could look at it for you. Although a 
79 it was probably built in 78.


http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1FA22CAB

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

- Original Message - 
From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?



look at the signature, it tells all!  Do remember this Sir LT, I'm dying
for a '78 450SL.(why '78 do you ask?  That, old man, is my year of
birth!)

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:13:44 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Was the coupe a gasser?

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well he did buy that 300E

LT Don wrote:

 Actually, I think I have a better chance of being nominated as the
Prom
 King for 2006 in my small town than we do of Luther buying a gasser.
At
 least I'd hope so.




--
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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)

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Re: [MBZ] a NEW strange noise

2005-08-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:12:52 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, when I drive fast I don't turn the steering wheel far enough
 to make it click. 

Well, why not?


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Oh joy! Another oil thread!

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
I get the three pack at www.youroil.net. From their web site:
Everything you need to do 3 samples, sample bottles, pre-paid mailing
boxes, labels and instructions. You'll learn if your engine is wearing
normally or not.
Only $55 !
That's $18 each analysis. 

You pay your money, the kits come in the mail, you fill the little
bottle, fill out the form, and send it off. The results come back in a
couple of weeks.
Very similar to going to the doctor -- 

Oh yes, www.youroil.net is run by a list member, Larry T.  - keeping
the business in the family.


On 8/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 BTW where does one get an analysis done? what does it typicaly cost? 
   

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Re: [MBZ] a NEW strange noise

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Don't don't wanna do rollovers. 

On 8/24/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:12:52 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Actually, when I drive fast I don't turn the steering wheel far enough
  to make it click.
 
 Well, why not?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] a NEW strange noise

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
That must be a record for a 240D !

On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, when I drive fast I don't turn the steering wheel far enough to
 make it click. 
 
 On 8/24/05, redghost  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The left side tie rod has sheared off and is clicking when you drive 
  slowly.  When you steer left fast, it heals itself

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Re: [MBZ] 450 SEL

2005-08-25 Thread Luther Gulseth
2 strikes.  Too plain of a color and wrong year.  Yea, I know it was  
probably made in '78, but it's the sentimental value of being the '78  
model year.


On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:31:29 -0500, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Luther:

This guys lot is a mile from my house. Could look at it for you.  
Although a

79 it was probably built in 78.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1FA22CAB

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN



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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 yea, I had thought of that.  Not really sure of a way to tell without it
 sticking on while Im looking at the thing.
 

I wonder if it's feasible to temporarily change the hookup of the indicator 
light
to the relay so the light glows when the plugs glow instead of going
out when it's time to start.



Re: [MBZ] Fuel price Mexico

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
I'm haldf Irish and half German, but can't speak (or type) either of
them worth a crap -- think I'll stay where I am.

On 8/24/05, Don  Teresa Merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tequila man tequila, both of you dudes come on down.
 
 
  
 On 8/24/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  well im half Chihuahua and half german Shepard...do i qualify to move
  to the land of beans and tortillas? 
  
  On 8/24/05, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hey I'm half Spanish and half German and don't look like a gringo, do I
   qualify to move down south? I don't speak Spanish but I do ok with with 
   German!
  
  
   Rory

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[MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO  my 
Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd tank 
in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate, has the fuel line and 
filters, etc. Best of all, he is a pro mechanic so we'd have access to a 
real lift to plumb the thing up. 

This could be fun. 

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Re: [MBZ] more on a NEW strange noise

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
You think it is a switch? How would I check it? 

On 8/24/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Check the wiper for the horn switch --
 
 On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yea ... have also noticed that the sound comes every quarter turn of the
  steering wheel, but only when turning left.
 
 
  On 8/24/05, andrew strasfogel  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Sounds like you're getting warm
  
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-25 Thread Luther Gulseth

YOU GO BOY!!!

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:42:24 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO  
 my
Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd  
tank
in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate, has the fuel line  
and

filters, etc. Best of all, he is a pro mechanic so we'd have access to a
real lift to plumb the thing up.

This could be fun.





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'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:40:48 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  
  yea, I had thought of that.  Not really sure of a way to tell without
  it sticking on while Im looking at the thing.
 
 I wonder if it's feasible to temporarily change the hookup of the
 indicator light to the relay so the light glows when the plugs glow
 instead of going out when it's time to start.

An easier solution would be to add a light emitting diode (LED) in series
with a resistor in one of the empty holes at the bottom of the
instrument cluster and wiring that across the output of the glow plug
relay to ground.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Overclocking and Zerex

2005-08-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:04:07 -0700 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 found the real stuff for $9.96 at autopartswarehouse.com.  Maybe Rusty 
 needs to source himself some from their stock.  Like wipe it out and 
 pass the savings on to the list

I went to the site and found Mercedes coolant for $22.71 per gallon, a far
cry from $9.96. Rusty's cost at http://buymbparts.com/ is $21.07,
noticably cheaper.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] did anybody notice?

2005-08-25 Thread Steve MacSween
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The server was down for about 3 minutes.  Thats how real software
 updates are done.  They dont take weeks to months.

Ya'know, it's precisely that sort of statement that many a man has lived to
eat covered in crow later, Kaleb.

LoL!

Mac




Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh yeah, that'd look good. Texas car imported to Canada in October (on
 paper) and then reimported back into the US the following August! LOL!

Actually, don't laugh at that. I imported a Volvo wagon with a Mustang GT
5.0 engine and BW T-5 gearbox in June 2001, from Arizona, and sold it back
to a guy in Virginia in October of the same year.

Makes the re-import to the USA work like a greased duck. Otherwise you have
to pay a customs broker your first born child and the option on your second,
to do all the paperwork (if the car is under 25 yrs), PLUS you have to get a
compliance letter from Mercedes Benz Canada. If you can prove it was
exported from the U.S., it's no hassle at all.

Mac




Re: [MBZ] 450 SEL

2005-08-25 Thread LT Don
So ... I guess I should be in the market for a 1952 xxxD then? Or would a 
'52 be a 'Toon? [Actually, that would be fun to own.] 

On 8/24/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 2 strikes. Too plain of a color and wrong year. Yea, I know it was
 probably made in '78, but it's the sentimental value of being the '78
 model year.
 
 
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1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.


Re: [MBZ] more on a NEW strange noise

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
No - it's the wiper (carbon? brush) that rubs on a ring (the ground
connection, I think) under the horn pad - pull off the horn pad, turn
the wheel, see if there is anything un-toward in there.

On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You think it is a switch? How would I check it? 
 
 


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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



[MBZ] metric t fitting

2005-08-25 Thread Constantine N. Polites

Dave
Check with Parker Hannifin- the EO series.  A local hydraulic house 
(Parker Distributor) may have one.

Constantine




Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
Just change the voltage regulator, finsih the euro engined car, and
sell it to me (cheap, of course).

On 8/24/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:40:48 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  
   yea, I had thought of that.  Not really sure of a way to tell without
   it sticking on while Im looking at the thing.
 
  I wonder if it's feasible to temporarily change the hookup of the
  indicator light to the relay so the light glows when the plugs glow
  instead of going out when it's time to start.
 
 An easier solution would be to add a light emitting diode (LED) in series
 with a resistor in one of the empty holes at the bottom of the
 instrument cluster and wiring that across the output of the glow plug
 relay to ground.
 
 
 Craig

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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

hmm, thats interesting.

Mitch Haley wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


yea, I had thought of that.  Not really sure of a way to tell without it
sticking on while Im looking at the thing.




I wonder if it's feasible to temporarily change the hookup of the indicator 
light
to the relay so the light glows when the plugs glow instead of going
out when it's time to start.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
I've got a '78 SLC -- If I'm not as thrilled with it as I expect to be
after the new engine is out in I might be up for a trade -- -

On 8/24/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 look at the signature, it tells all!  Do remember this Sir LT, I'm dying
 for a '78 450SL.(why '78 do you ask?  That, old man, is my year of
 birth!)
 


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Re: [MBZ] did anybody notice?

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

hahaha, you are probably correct.

Steve MacSween wrote:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



The server was down for about 3 minutes.  Thats how real software
updates are done.  They dont take weeks to months.



Ya'know, it's precisely that sort of statement that many a man has lived to
eat covered in crow later, Kaleb.

LoL!

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] 450 SEL

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
I keep a 1949 Leica lens for just that reason, plus the upkeep and
storage is a LOT less than another car -- --

On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So ... I guess I should be in the market for a 1952 xxxD then?  Or would a
 '52 be a 'Toon? [Actually, that would be fun to own.] 


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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

perhaps you should contact me about this sometime.

OK Don wrote:


I've got a '78 SLC -- If I'm not as thrilled with it as I expect to be
after the new engine is out in I might be up for a trade -- -

On 8/24/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


look at the signature, it tells all!  Do remember this Sir LT, I'm dying
for a '78 450SL.(why '78 do you ask?  That, old man, is my year of
birth!)







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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Luther Gulseth

chop the damn C off it and we'll negotiate.

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:28:54 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've got a '78 SLC -- If I'm not as thrilled with it as I expect to be
after the new engine is out in I might be up for a trade -- -

On 8/24/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

look at the signature, it tells all!  Do remember this Sir LT, I'm dying
for a '78 450SL.(why '78 do you ask?  That, old man, is my year of
birth!)








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'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)



Re: [MBZ] Overclocking and Zerex

2005-08-25 Thread redghost
Must have set a cobweb loose when I ordered the stuff.  They only 
shipped one and I paid for two.  Could be they figured out the screw 
up, because it was world pac anyway.  Going to make a stink, because 
the confirmation said I was getting two gallons.  Better get two 
gallons and they cover the screw up themselves


On Wednesday, August 24, 2005, at 08:02 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:04:07 -0700 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



found the real stuff for $9.96 at autopartswarehouse.com.  Maybe Rusty
needs to source himself some from their stock.  Like wipe it out and
pass the savings on to the list


I went to the site and found Mercedes coolant for $22.71 per gallon, a 
far

cry from $9.96. Rusty's cost at http://buymbparts.com/ is $21.07,
noticably cheaper.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?

2005-08-25 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Hi Alan,

I take it the car uses a KE-jetronic(CIS/E) fuel injection system?
Has the O2 sensor been changed in living memory?
Find a decent(fully equipped) Mercedes specialist who is able to diagnose
fuel pressures and not just guess away, that is our job.
Also remember if these high performance motors don't get a good run every
now and then they will tend to gum up with crap(how is that for a detailed
technical term:-)

Hendrik

- Original Message -
From: Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?


 I had one indy do some work and it improved a little. He was competent so
it
 is likely not an easy fix. Runs rough and blows black smoke. My new indy
 said it could be as much as $1,500 to fix, as the system is complex and
you
 have to work through as you go. Looks just like this one.
  http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2BA36CAB

 Alan
 - Original Message -
 From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?


  Daymn!
 
  I'm on my way now. Let's see, it's 9:30 pm in Toronto now. It's 2
  hours to the border, then a 4 hour wait there to cross after getting
  the rubber glove love treatment.
 
  You say the fuel injection is the only problem?
 
  Tim
  1982 300TD Moby
 
  On 8/24/05, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd like to get $2,000.
 
  Alan Duff
  Knoxville, TN
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice Car For Sale - How Much?
 
 
   how much?
  
   Alan Duff wrote:
  
   I've got a '87 190E 16 valve with the 5 speed manual transmission.
The
   smoke silver color with black leather interior. 132k miles in
   excellent
   condition, no dents or rust. Runs rough as it has a fuel injection
   problem. My indie says he doesn't have time to work on it until the
   fall.
   Would like to sell it if anyone is interested
  
   Alan Duff
   Knoxville, TN
  
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[MBZ] MB V-6 diesel vs Lexus hybrid coast to coast

2005-08-25 Thread RELNGSON
From New York to LA - diesel beats hybrid on fuel
 
August 24, 2005

Although many may think petrol-electric hybrid drives use less fuel than 
other engines, German car magazine Auto Bild has shown that a modern diesel 
engine 
is a superior alternative -- an almost as good in city driving.

The magazine, as reported in its latest issue, conducted a comparative test 
drive from the East Coast to the West Coast of the USA - from New York to Los 
Angeles - with a new Mercedes-Benz ML 320 CDI and a Lexus RX 400h with a 
petrol/battery hybrid system.

The test result showed that the advanced diesel engine was far more 
fuel-efficient than the hybrid over long distances and only marginally less so 
in a 
city

The cars were driven about 5200 km from New York to San Francisco and the 
final figures told a story that will turn the greens blue in the face:

The results showed that while the ML 320 CDI (165kW) returned an average fuel 
consumption of 7.62 litres/100km, the hybrid SUV (155 kW) averaged 8.64 
litres/100km.

The difference of just under 11 percent, Auto Bild said, underscored the 
superiority of a state-of-the-art diesel engine over a hybrid drives. The 
endurance test also showed that hybrid technology was only marginally more fuel 
efficient in urban traffic where it is most effective in reducing consumption.

At 9.8 litres/100km, the diesel returned only 0.17 litres/100km heavier fuel 
consumption in city driving than the hybrid.

The M-class performed admirably under diverse conditions during the entire 
5200km trek, said an Auto Bild editor.
The endurance test also showed that hybrid technology was only marginally 
more fuel efficient in urban traffic
. I hadn’t expected such a big advantage in fuel efficiency.

Underneath the bonnet of the ML 320 CDI is an all-new V-6 engine with 
third-generation common-rail technology that has brought further improvements 
to fuel 
consumption, exhaust emissions and performance.

At 510Nm, the V6 has one of the highest torque outputs of any engine in its 
displacement class, and this performance begins at only 1600rpm.

The Mercedes-Benz coast-to-coast test cars were also equipped with diesel 
particulate traps, helping to further reduce the M-Class’s emissions.

The 320 CDI engine meets Euro IV regulations even without the trap.
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy to go 20K on any oil

2005-08-25 Thread Marshall Booth

Donald Snook wrote:
So, is the point of going 15-20,000 miles just so you can say you did 
that?  No matter anyone’s thoughts about the price of Mobil 1, I think 
we can all agree that it is cheaper than an engine.  This thread has 
demonstrated that people have an almost religious belief about the oils 
they use in there cars. I suppose I am no different in that all I could 
think was “Oh God! Why would someone go 20K on the same oil.” 


If the oil becomes dirty and requires changing at 1,000 miles, there is 
NO argument that it shouldn't be changed. If it doesn't require changing 
for 20kmi there is absolutely NO reason to change it sooner. It's all a 
matter of how dirty it gets. Different driving styles with different 
engines and different conditions will dictate the change interval. There 
is NO single interval or even pair of intervals that is best! All the 
manufacturer can do is provide a VERY conservative estimate that will 
assure safety under arguably worse case conditions. That usually results 
in 75-80% of the oil being discarded before it's life is even half 
exhausted. A little measurement and some common sense can allow the SAFE 
extension of oil change intervals by 100-200 or even 400% even using a 
conservative criteria (2% soot for example).


It makes no more economic sense to discard oil with half or more of it's 
life left, than to discard half the fuel you buy rather than burning it 
all or discarding half the food you buy without eating it!


Marshall
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'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

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Re: [MBZ] Crazy to go 20K on any oil

2005-08-25 Thread Marshall Booth

Don  Teresa Merriman wrote:
OK please don´t flame me or what ever you computer geeks do, I asked the 
question about Mobil 1 and have learned a lot, how ever I am very 
surprised there are no comments about the quality/brand of filters used. 
When I was in the biz there were lots of knock offs on filter brands. I 
cut apart filters and spread the contents out so customers could see 
what they were getting for their buck. So now a new question, what is 
the best brand of filter to use with  a synthetic lubricant¿


Hengst, Mann and Knecht filters are fine as are MB filters (most of them 
are manufactured by Hengst, Mann and Knecht). I do NOT suggest any 
others. They can be purchased inexpensively from Rusty and other 
Mercedes specialists.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] did anybody notice?

2005-08-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
And the list admin does not hide behind excuses... 

Kaleb, in case no one else remembers to tell you - thanks for picking up the
tattered remains of the old lists  running with this project.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

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To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] did anybody notice?

The server was down for about 3 minutes.  Thats how real software updates
are done.  They dont take weeks to months.
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Re: [MBZ] Marshall, this is no joke...

2005-08-25 Thread Marshall Booth

Christopher McCann wrote:
Marshall, 


Recall your invitation that I conduct research for a
cure for cancer (HAHA) the other day? Here is the
message that was in my fortune cookie at lunch today:

You could prosper in the field of medical research.
I nearly died laughing. So I think I will abandon
marketing and alternative fuel research and take up
medicine...any posts available at Presby? :-)


Research always requires research subjects...

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Marshall, this is no joke...

2005-08-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
Funny, very funny 


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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On Behalf Of Marshall Booth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:35 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall, this is no joke...

Christopher McCann wrote:
 Marshall,
 
 Recall your invitation that I conduct research for a cure for cancer 
 (HAHA) the other day? Here is the message that was in my fortune 
 cookie at lunch today:
 
 You could prosper in the field of medical research.
 I nearly died laughing. So I think I will abandon marketing and 
 alternative fuel research and take up medicine...any posts available 
 at Presby? :-)

Research always requires research subjects...

Marshall
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159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
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Re: [MBZ] proper and best fluids

2005-08-25 Thread Marshall Booth

Dave M. wrote:

In addtion to what Jeff said...

1) Marshall noticed that his OM60x engines would develop lifter noise
before a 5kmi change interval rolled around, which would go away when
the SynTec was changed. Reverting back to Mobil-1 kept them quiet past
5kmi. This was, I believe, with the original 5W-50 variety. Marshall
can correct or elaborate on this I'm sure.


Actually I noticed that SynTec consumption rate increased starting at 
about 2500 miles. This is a CLASSIC sign of viscosity improver 
(additive) breakdown (it happens with MANY conventional oils - 
especially those that use ONLY group I base so must make extensive use 
of viscosity improvers). At about the same time I was puzzling over the 
increasing oil consumption rate, Red Line published a test in which an 
unnamed 5W-50 oil (SynTec was the ONLY 5W-50 oil sold in the US then) 
displayed marked reduction in lubricity that corresponded with the 
increased consumption rate I was seeing. It was later confirmed that the 
5W-50 oil was SynTec. As long as SynTec is changed frequently, it's 
pretty good oil - much better than most conventional oils - but it 
needed to be changed MUCH more frequently than Mobil 1 - long before 
soot or other combustion by-products made it unsuitable.




2) IMO, almost all the synthetic oils on the shelf at McParts are
the fake Group III stuff (Rotella Syn, Valvoline, etc). There are not
many true synthetics left, but at the moment Amsoil, Mobil, and Red
Line are all the real deal. For more than you EVER wanted to know
about oils (and I'm not joking here), check out this website:

http://bobistheoilguy.com/

For the record I don't believe in any oil additives and the site above
basically agrees with that. For 1-time cleaning purposes, AutoRX is
neat stuff but that's not a magical additive like most claim to be -
it's specifically for cleaning. Neat stuff actually.


I use Mobil 1 for cleaning. Works GREAT. If an engine is spectacularly 
dirty I have used a short interval (400-600 miles) of a high quality of 
conventional oil with a VERY aggressive additive package (like Delo 400) 
before putting in the Mobil 1 (but I only did that once and I'm NOT sure 
anything was any cleaner at the first Mobil 1 change then with just 
using Mobil 1 alone).


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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Barry Stark
Mitch -
Actually I have a very simlar problem on my '81 SD. I'm afraid I gave up
trying to figure just what is going on months ago, so I just put my charger
on it every few days. I did put an indicator on it for a while. I went to
Radio Shack and bought a 12V Sonalert. I extended the wire lengths and
squeezed them through a wiring harness grommet by the master cylinder
booster,to get access to the passenger compartment. I grounded one of the
lead wires and hooked the other to the terminal on the #1 glow plug.
Whenever the glow plugs were on, the Sonalert started beeping, and yes a
couple of times after driving around for over 20 minutes the thing would
randomly start beeping. I finally took the Sonalert out 'cause I got tired
of listening to it. Never did find out just what was resetting the glow plug
relay. One day I plan to add a temporary wire from a temporary switch, to be
mounted inside, to the terminal on the glow plug relay that gets its' signal
from the ignition switch. This so that the glow plugs can only come on when
the switch is on. I will only turn the switch on for starting, then off. It
seems to me the problem must be an intermittant open in the wire that serves
that purpose and it keeps resetting the relay. Why else would my battery go
dead only while the car is running? It can sit unused for over a week and
still be charged so it isn't a load dragging it down while it sits, only
when it is running. BTW, new 70 amp Bosch rebuilt alternator now with a
Transpo adjustable regulator set to about 14.2 volts, load tests says it
puts out plenty of current. Third new battery in two years, meaning this is
the fourth battery since this happened. I replaced a three year old
interstate with a new one. Interstate dealer tested that one and pronounced
it bad. Installed the second new Interstate. Went to a Bosch Service Center,
when that one kept going dead, thinking it had to be the rebuilt alternator,
where the guy swore that it had to be a bad battery, and that he had seen
multiple bad Interstate batteries in a row. That replacement did last almost
a month before it repeated the cycle of low batteries. So much for his
credability. New afterglow relay and glow plugs, New ignition switch (in
case that was my intermittant connection). Verified clean connections in the
glowplug circuit. It is just fine on a long trip even with my Euro
headlights (with 100/130 H4s)on at night even with long periods of high
beams. After a few days of wifes' errands around town, it will just refuse
to start caused by a low battery, but will quickly start with a jump. What
have I missed? I guess I should try my switch experiment sometime soon. The
re-charging routine is beginning to get rather old.  :^)

Barry

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 yea, I had thought of that.  Not really sure of a way to tell without it
 sticking on while Im looking at the thing.


I wonder if it's feasible to temporarily change the hookup of the indicator
light
to the relay so the light glows when the plugs glow instead of going
out when it's time to start.

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[MBZ] cars from the years of our births

2005-08-25 Thread kevin kraly
Well, I'd be in the market for a nice 1972 220D that hopefully has good 
blower motors in it.  I would be awfully tempted if there was one in my 
area, but haven't come across one yet.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie 






Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard of a GLK?

2005-08-25 Thread Rory
I haven't read any of his books, but have spent many hours online
reading of his 'round the world trip in the GLK.  Great articles,
great photos, great insights.

As far as the car, I read the development article and road test in
Automobile Magazine a few years ago.

-- 
Rory Morrison
Oroville, WA
1985 300SD
1982 300TD



Re: [MBZ] MB V-6 diesel vs Lexus hybrid coast to coast

2005-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From New York to LA - diesel beats hybrid on fuel

Yep, diesel shines in a long trip, and hybrid is totally useless on the
freeway unless you are braking on hills or in traffic. 

The hybrid's advantage is in stop and go traffic, where braking energy
goes into the battery instead of heating up the brake disks, and the
engine can be shut off at stoplights and restarted by the electric drive
motor.



Re: [MBZ] Marshall, this is no joke...

2005-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Marshall Booth wrote:
 
 Research always requires research subjects...

Well, we've got this concentration camp in Cuba.



Re: [MBZ] cars from the years of our births

2005-08-25 Thread Mitch Haley

I thought about 1963 Caddy and 1963 MBz (four door, four cyl, manny on the 
column shift)
project cars in my youth, but I really want a 1963 Apollo 3500GT or 1963 
Corvette coupe.
(Corvette price is getting crazy, but the next time I see an Apollo for 10k I'm 
grabbing
it)



Re: [MBZ] e-coli

2005-08-25 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Gotta love that good o'le fecal-oral contamination route. We've got a
town up here that had its water supply contaminated with E. coli and 6
people died as a result. Not to mention the hundreds that got sick.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/24/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 True - they're OK in the lower part, not not ANY fun in the upper part.
 
 On 8/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Sure they are. Your belly is full of e-coli right now. It's the 0157-H7
  strain that causes the problems. They are more aggresive than the regular
  guys and so they eat the lining of your guts and cause bleeding.
 
  Ken
 
 
 
 
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 '81 240D
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Re: [MBZ] cars from the years of our births

2005-08-25 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Oh great. 1974. Wasn't that the year they mandated catalytic
converters? Didn't every car from that year suck?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/25/05, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I'd be in the market for a nice 1972 220D that hopefully has good
 blower motors in it.  I would be awfully tempted if there was one in my
 area, but haven't come across one yet.
 
 Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
 
 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] cars from the years of our births

2005-08-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
Not a diesel, they did not use catalytic converters back then.

Also, catalytic converters were not mandated back then. EPA standards drove
most car makers to catalytic converters that year. Datsun (Nissan) met our
EPA standards until 1977 or so without them.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] cars from the years of our births

Oh great. 1974. Wasn't that the year they mandated catalytic converters?
Didn't every car from that year suck?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

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 Well, I'd be in the market for a nice 1972 220D that hopefully has 
 good blower motors in it.  I would be awfully tempted if there was one 
 in my area, but haven't come across one yet.
 
 Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
 
 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
The euro project -- didn't think there was any chance that you'd part
with an SDL --

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sell what to you cheap?  The SDL or the euro project?
 
 OK Don wrote:
 

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Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] MB V-6 diesel vs Lexus hybrid coast to coast

2005-08-25 Thread OK Don
So where are the Diesel/electric hybrids? Anyone seen a locomotive
recently? It's not like it's a new idea or anything -- --

On 8/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From New York to LA - diesel beats hybrid on fuel
 
 Yep, diesel shines in a long trip, and hybrid is totally useless on the
 freeway unless you are braking on hills or in traffic.
 

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] did anybody notice?

2005-08-25 Thread DElliott%SWS




Here, here, big ups to Kaleb.

And the list admin does not hide behind excuses...

Kaleb, in case no one else remembers to tell you - thanks for picking up
the
tattered remains of the old lists  running with this project.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.co




Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Oh, there is no chance I will be parting with the euro project, no way jose.

OK Don wrote:


The euro project -- didn't think there was any chance that you'd part
with an SDL --

On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


sell what to you cheap?  The SDL or the euro project?

OK Don wrote:






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[MBZ] WVO-diesel mix project

2005-08-25 Thread Luther Gulseth
This past weekend, we took a trip to Minnesota running on about 70% vegoil.  
70% was a bit much for the 50degree mornings in the Twin Cities, but it made it 
fine with extra glow time.  

We took about 35 gallons of oil along for the trip.  We purchased 32.942 
gallons of diesel on the trip and drove 1596 miles which is 48.4 MPG on diesel. 
 Adding in the 35 (estimated high) gallons of vegoil and I ran about 23.5 MPG.  

Fuel cost (est vegoil at $.50/gal) was $84.70 running about $0.05/mile.

My initial cost on filters/pumps/plumbing/storage is around $110.  I have 2 
pumps, because I upgraded to a self-priming pump.  I still have some minor 
changes I'd like to make to the design.  The first 2 are adding pressure guages 
after the filters to monitor how clogged the filters are, and using air 
pressure to transfer oil by pressurizing the barrels and pushing the oil 
through the filters.

When I get a chance, I will take pictures of my setup for any curious folk.

Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi



Re: [MBZ] WVO-diesel mix project

2005-08-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea be sure and show me your setup when Im over that way.

Luther Gulseth wrote:

This past weekend, we took a trip to Minnesota running on about 70% vegoil.  70% was a bit much for the 50degree mornings in the Twin Cities, but it made it fine with extra glow time.  

We took about 35 gallons of oil along for the trip.  We purchased 32.942 gallons of diesel on the trip and drove 1596 miles which is 48.4 MPG on diesel.  Adding in the 35 (estimated high) gallons of vegoil and I ran about 23.5 MPG.  


Fuel cost (est vegoil at $.50/gal) was $84.70 running about $0.05/mile.

My initial cost on filters/pumps/plumbing/storage is around $110.  I have 2 
pumps, because I upgraded to a self-priming pump.  I still have some minor 
changes I'd like to make to the design.  The first 2 are adding pressure guages 
after the filters to monitor how clogged the filters are, and using air 
pressure to transfer oil by pressurizing the barrels and pushing the oil 
through the filters.

When I get a chance, I will take pictures of my setup for any curious folk.

Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] Oh LORD

2005-08-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Looks like it was washed weekly inside and out, rinsed with brine and
allowed to air-dry!  Anyone want to bet if he gets a single bid?



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