Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread paul
I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance.  I can think of 
4 or 5 friends that are also self-employed, and pay for their own health 
insurance.  There are options.  Yes, it's expensive (around $400/month 
for the wife and I), but readily available to anyone wanting it.


p.

David Brodbeck wrote:



You can call it what you want, but our current health care system
assumes your employer will provide you with health insurance.  If they
don't, you have very little access to the system and you will almost
certainly end up on public assistance the first time you get hurt or
seriously ill.

 






Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread redghost
Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when 
the Karma Bug bites me again?


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 02:00 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


I think the steel portion of the pan from any OM61X engine will work.

btw: The same thing happened to my old 220D back when my ex drove it
down a steep hill at high speed, then bottomed out, tearing a
dime-sized hole in the front edge.  I'm surprised as hell that she
even noticed it before draining the engine dry--clearly a miracle from
on high.

On 2/11/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.  Got
about a half mile before I noticed the pressure dropping.  Was able to
pull into a gas station and call for a tow while she piddled what
little oil she had left.  Just want to kick yourself in the nuts when
that happens and you know you should have grabbed a pan off a om 616
for just in case.


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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no reverse

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth

Curt Raymond wrote:

'85 190D 2.2l 5spd manual shift
   
  I can't get it into reverse, I push to the right and down on the shifter and can't go back to reverse. I can go forward into 5th but not back. SOMETIMES it'll consent and with a little clang go back. I presume that whatever gets adjusted when I push down isn't getting adjusted any more but I don't know enough about it. When its not working it feels like reverse just isn't there, like you're trying to shift into nothing.
  
I called my Indy yesterday but he wasn't in. I'm hoping this is something simple... So far I've been parking on hills but I'm going to get caught I know it.


If the shift levers' bushings are worn, getting into reverse is the 
first problem you'll have and it will be worst when it's cold! The 
bushings cost about $1 each, but putting them in is a challenge - at 
least the first time.


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread David Brodbeck
paul wrote:
 I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance.  I can think of 
 4 or 5 friends that are also self-employed, and pay for their own health 
 insurance.  There are options.  Yes, it's expensive (around $400/month 
 for the wife and I), but readily available to anyone wanting it.

It's readily available if you're young and healthy.  If you have any
history of illness it dries up quickly.  In some cases something as
minor as a history of depression has caused people to be unable to get
individual health insurance.  Basically, they'll sell it to you as long
as you don't need it. ;)

$400/month is also an awful lot for someone making minimum wage.



Re: [MBZ] Ed's new 108

2006-02-12 Thread redghost
She will come to you when the time is right.  It is meant to be, just 
not this moment.  Wait Grasshopper, wait.




On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 03:09 PM, Ed Booher wrote:


Gah!! I just missed a 70 250 for $1K. Was in the morning paper, and
gone by the time I called.  *sighs* Just wanted to rant and share.
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart

2006-02-12 Thread l02turner

you wrote:management and are full time to avoid paying benefits isn't
just a walmart idea, it's industry wide.

Exactly.  I worked as a contract employee for almost 15 years for a major 
chemical company - because they didn;t want to increase the census any I 
remained a highly compensated contractor.   A long way from min wage but I 
still had to pay for my own insurance, retirement, vacation, etc.  And even 
though they paid me well, it was still way less than it would have cost them 
if I were a direct employee.   It's a way of life in many companies ---


We were called Job Shoppers (or less eloquent, Road Whores)  ;-)   Very 
common in the nuclear construction industry.  Remember when people used to 
say, The South will rise again!  Now, it;s We're gonna build some more 
nukes!I'd dearly love to see it happen but fear the permit process 
would take so long I'll be pushing up daisies before it happens -


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For what it's worth, the idea of not having any or many employees around
that are not management and are full time to avoid paying benefits isn't
just a walmart idea, it's industry wide.

Which is why such a high percentage of them are on Medicaid and public
assistance of some kind. Which I am funding even thought I don't shop at 
Walmart.


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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth

redghost wrote:
Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when 
the Karma Bug bites me again?


I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the 
pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey

Daycare for those small children can eat most of her wages,


A former coworker of mine has three kids, one a new baby, and
mentioned in passing that day care was $1700/mo.  I don't know
if that was for two, or her projected figure once number three
was in drop-off mode in a few weeks.  Steep.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Torque converter torque

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth

OK Don wrote:

So, what is the torque for the six little bolts that fasten the torque
converter to the driven plate (flex plate)? Or, where would you find
such in the CD FSM?


Which car?

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Tom Scordato

One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large
corporations dwarfs that going to the poor --

Amen Don, Amen/Tom
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One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large
corporations dwarfs that going to the poor --

On 2/11/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Since I work for one of the welfare agencies, I could drag out all the
numbers, but to keep it simple, you can't get welfare just because you
don't want to work. You have to fake an on-the-job injury to do that,
for any length of time at least. Even then, it's real hard to get the
system doctors to certify you for enough to get any money.

The typical welfare mom has been left high and dry with several
small kids by the wage earner of the family - for what ever reason.
She's on welfare for 6 months to two years until she gets on her
feet. Daycare for those small children can eat most of her wages,
leaving them with choosing between food and electricity. I'm sure it's
tougher this winter. There are a LOT of irresponsible men out there
who don't think they have a responsibility to support the children
they fathered. Those kids are growing up in neglectful daycare centers
with other kids just like them, a single parent who is exhausted from
trying to work (often more than one job) to feed them. It's no wonder
society is falling apart at the seams - drug money and gangs look like
the only way to survive to these kids, and their numbers are
increasing every year.





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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread redghost

Marshall,

I am very slow, slow as my car.  That is what surprised me, was I hit 
something going fast enough that it had force enough to go through the 
pan.


There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the 
moment.  I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around, 
I will be happy knowing whatever mystery pan killer was out there can 
not keep me off the road for long.



On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:12 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


redghost wrote:

Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
the Karma Bug bites me again?


I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the
pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Wipers

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey

What do you guys think of Bosch wipers? I'd always bought Anco...


I found, when I was wiper comparison shopping, that of what I
could buy around here then the Trico blades were the only ones
at McParts that were worth the time of installation.  Others
didn't last any time at all before they started streaking or
chattering.  As always, YMMV.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey

Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.


Time to get out the welder!  Welding oily/fuely metal can be tricky,
as it soaks into the pores.  Can be done, however.  Of course, a
U-Pull pan, if available, is easier and plenty cheap enough.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Fuel Priming - was 100 dollar diesel

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey

every time I've tried to use it, it spooges fuel with each pump


Then it's worn out.  Time for a new one.  Soon enough it'll start
leaking air in as well as fuel out, then starting will get difficult.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
A'yup, an often overlooked little factoid--think military industrial
complex for a textbook case study in corporate welfare run amok.

On 2/11/06, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large
 corporations dwarfs that going to the poor --

 Amen Don, Amen/Tom

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)



Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread l02turner

you wrote:our current health care system

assumes your employer will provide you with health insurance


ya'll do realize that any money paid by your employer for any benefits you 
might have is money that could be paid directly to you and it would be the 
same thing.  Typically, you cost your company 2 times what they pay you. 
The only thing they do is pay for stuff *for* you.  You could just as easily 
pay for it yourself if they gave you the money they would normally spend on 
your behalf.  The same whether it's health/life insurance, vacation or sick 
leave.  It all adds to what you cost the company to keep you around.  Social 
Security is similar - exceot you pay around 1/2 and they pay about 1/2...


Everything the company provides in the way of so-called benefits is money 
you could probably better spend yourself - if they'd give it to you.  But 
then you wouldn;t be a employee - you'd be a contractor.


;-)

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paul wrote:

David Brodbeck wrote:


No, you're wrong.  In our current system, health insurance *is* the
responsibility of employers.


Bull.  That's why it's referred to as a benefit.  It's a perk; a plus;
a bonus.


You can call it what you want, but our current health care system
assumes your employer will provide you with health insurance.  If they
don't, you have very little access to the system and you will almost
certainly end up on public assistance the first time you get hurt or
seriously ill.

Employers may not be *legally* responsible for providing health
insurance.  But since they're the only reasonable source of it in the
U.S., they ought to be *morally* responsible.  (Employers are also not
legally required to let their employees take bathroom breaks.  That
doesn't mean it would be right for them to eliminate them.)


You really should visit south Dallas sometime...I could change your mind
in 30 seconds.


Welfare programs are now administered by the states, who get block
grants from the federal government.  If the welfare system in Dallas is
corrupt, it's the fault of the Republicans who are running Texas.

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Re: [MBZ] Torque converter torque

2006-02-12 Thread OK Don
Duh !  The 450SLC, 1978, 722.004 tranny, 117.985 engine.

On 2/11/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK Don wrote:
  So, what is the torque for the six little bolts that fasten the torque
  converter to the driven plate (flex plate)? Or, where would you find
  such in the CD FSM?

 Which car?

 Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 83

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:



I took me awhile to realize what you're saying... Fortunately theres 
enough oil already sprayed around I think it'll be fine.


  Sheesh, you gotta put in emoticons or something I thought you were 
serious...


  -Curt



	I hate emoticons, you'll just have to get to know me to distinguish 
between my humorous and serious sides. I'm glad you caught on though.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Trampas
I got one from Rusty awhile back, never used it but as I recall it was only
about $30. 

Trampas

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Marshall,

I am very slow, slow as my car.  That is what surprised me, was I hit 
something going fast enough that it had force enough to go through the 
pan.

There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the 
moment.  I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around, 
I will be happy knowing whatever mystery pan killer was out there can 
not keep me off the road for long.


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:12 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

 redghost wrote:
 Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
 the Karma Bug bites me again?

 I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the
 pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner

 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart

2006-02-12 Thread l02turner
I suspect you;re overstating the problem  a bit.  The median income for the 
last 3 years is ~$44K  which works out to around $22.00 per hour - even 
though many of those employed are salaried and not hourly. The lowest state 
is WVa at $37.6k and the highest is NH at $57.4K.


That's a long ways from minimum wage or poverty level income.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/income04/statemhi.html

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For what it's worth, the idea of not having any or many employees around
that are not management and are full time to avoid paying benefits isn't
just a walmart idea, it's industry wide.

Which is why such a high percentage of them are on Medicaid and public
assistance of some kind. Which I am funding even thought I don't shop at 
Walmart.


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Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-02-12 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Well it is possible to get pretty close without a CO meter but the problem 
is people try to compensate for other problems by screwing with the metering 
adjustment.
Adjusting the metering screw should be last thing to be done, after 
everything else is checked out.
One of the most important factors is fuel quality, no good trying to get a 
MB motor to run well on crap fuel.
If the metering adjustment is to be fiddled with make sure that the hole 
where the Allen key goes is clean and that the Allen key is a good fit (a 
good quality T handle Allen key is the go for this job), also if I remember 
right the adjusting screw has to be pushed down to engage the actual 
adjuster (hence the T handle).


Hendrik
who has turned the metering adjustment with some success

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I like it too, although people seem to treat it like it's some sort of
deep, dark magic.  It's basically a carburator, but spread out all over
the engine. ;)  It really is quite an ingenious system once you figure
it out.  Reliable, too; my experience is that most CIS problems could
have been avoided if each car had come with a trained monkey that would
slap the owner silly if they went near the fuel distributor with an
allen wrench.  People didn't quite get that you couldn't just tweak it
by ear like a carb to try to make it run better.




Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote:
 
  You could start as a lower class trailer trash kid, go to work in an
 auto plant, and lift yourself into the middle class.  If you were good,
 you could even climb into the white collar ranks and eventually retire
 comfortably with a nice pension, a boat, and a cabin up north.
 That's no longer the case. 

I know somebody who was a special ed student in a largely black school
district near Detroit. He's functionally illiterate, has all the spending
traits that you associate with the socioeconomically disadvantaged,
go to rent-to-own shops, payday loans, etc. He got into driving big
trucks about three years ago. Had some crappy OTR jobs the first year,
but now he makes $45k a year, working four hours a day and sleeping in
the truck the other four. Goes home every night. Has medical insurance
and will get a pension if he stays there long enough. (he makes about
three runs a day moving parts between car factories, sleeps between runs)
$45k is solidly middle class when you live in a state where $125k buys
a decent three bedroom house. If he can do it, just about anybody can.



Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no reverse

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:45 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Shifter moves fine, just can't go into reverse. Doesn't seem to make 
any difference if the car's driven 40 miles or if its dead cold.
  It *feels* like the lockout isn't opening when I push down on the 
shifter. Like on the 240D if I hadn't lifted up on the shifter. I 
don't understand how the lockout works and can't see anything in there 
to give me much clue.




	Now that I'm thinking about it, if the stick is not centered, fore and 
aft pushing down has no effect. Also needs to be moved all the way 
right before pushing down and back for reverse. My wife informed me 
that her 190D would not go into reverse when I first gave it to her and 
it was just a matter of her moving it a little further to the right. It 
never happened again. I hope you're that lucky.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
paul wrote:
 
 I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance. 

Fortunately for you, it's a front page deduction from AGI.
Employees have to buy insurance with after tax dollars. I'm
glad it got fixed for you, (was 60% deductible a few years ago)
but I think the employed should have that deduction too. 

The real problem is that the cost of medical care is out
of reach for the lower income strata. Try convincing some guy
who nets $1500 a month to pay $250 for medical insurance.



Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:53 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


At my Wal-Mart, 5 qt jugs of M-1 5W-40 TSUV (when they have it) costs
$21 and a few pennies while qt bottles are $5 and change.

Marshall



	That has been my experience in the past but, like I said the 5qt was 
sold at the same price as 5 separate quart bottles. $26 and change. I 
used to pay that for six packs. It was either auto Zone or Advance AP 
that was selling quarts of M 1 for $6.24 just a couple of weeks ago.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Walmart

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I suspect you;re overstating the problem  a bit.  The median income for the
 last 3 years is ~$44K  which works out to around $22.00 per hour - even
 though many of those employed are salaried and not hourly. The lowest state
 is WVa at $37.6k and the highest is NH at $57.4K.

Isn't that the median for a family of two, including both one income and
two income families?
What's the median income for a WalMart associate?



Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:58 PM, redghost wrote:


Could have been.  Karma was running low.  Racing to show one of the
houses I rent out.  This was going to be for a pack of mezkins with
lots of cars.  Guess the man upstairs did not want that to take place.



	Things happen for a reason I'm told. The oil pan has to be the most 
vulnerable part of these cars.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:01 PM, paul wrote:


I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance.  I can think of
4 or 5 friends that are also self-employed, and pay for their own 
health

insurance.  There are options.  Yes, it's expensive (around $400/month
for the wife and I), but readily available to anyone wanting it.

p.



	I'm lucky, I'm also self-employed and I get great med ins from NYS. My 
wife works for the State.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:02 PM, redghost wrote:


Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
the Karma Bug bites me again?



	Just get one and be more careful. They're cheap enough to make you 
think the gasket is overpriced.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Mercedes had a prominently offered set of steel skid plates in the late 50s 
and 60s (or so), to protect the oil pan and other vulnerable parts.  I was 
stationed in Europe at the time, and remember seeing that in the options 
list.
It might be a good idea to look into that if you drive in areas where you 
can get that kind of damage.

Werner

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On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:58 PM, redghost wrote:


Could have been.  Karma was running low.  Racing to show one of the
houses I rent out.  This was going to be for a pack of mezkins with
lots of cars.  Guess the man upstairs did not want that to take place.



Things happen for a reason I'm told. The oil pan has to be the most
vulnerable part of these cars.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:14 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


A former coworker of mine has three kids, one a new baby, and
mentioned in passing that day care was $1700/mo.  I don't know
if that was for two, or her projected figure once number three
was in drop-off mode in a few weeks.  Steep.

-- Jim



	Some forward thinking Cos have in house day care and allow nursing 
mothers a few extra breaks so they may nourish their children. Some 
places actually welcome kids into the parents office all day long.
	They keep employees from taking long maternity/paternity leaves and 
avoid all that goes along with getting a new employee up to speed. The 
parents save on ridiculously overpriced day care, stress is reduced all 
around and the children actually get to know their parents. A win/win 
situation. I think this would also alleviate many parents fears of 
their children being neglected and abused.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


[MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Stark
A question, if I may, from you computer geek types out there. Here is the
issue...I just got my second TIVO, and as you folks may know, you can hook
your TIVOs to your area local network and transfer movies from one TIVO to
the other or to your computer. You can use either a wired network or a
wireless network. My understanding is that with a wireless network you may
get some pauses when watching a recording as it is being transferred from a
remote unit to the one at the location where you are viewing. Here is my
problem. I already have a wired router and local network between two
computers downstairs, but the TIVOs will be in two separate rooms upstairs.
Trying to run the wired network to all those locations would really be a
pain. It would seem like the wireless would be the ticket because of that
but then I wouldn't get the transfer rates I desire and I'd end up spending
some money to change to a wireless network. TIVOs are a bit sensitive on
which wireless USB wireless transceivers they will accept so you can't
always use the unit with the best price. I was thinking, I know, I know a
dangerous proposition, about how DSL uses just a regular phone line to
transfer data and wondered if I could use my existing telephone wiring as
the data lines in a wired network? We are only using one phone line and the
house is wired with a 6 conductor phone cable. Could I use one pair of the
unused conductors as data lines? Is this a crazy idea or could it work? I
would hook the wires directly to the router and then through a wired network
USB transceiver to each TIVO. I'm guessing that I'd also have to put DSL
type low pass filters on each of my phones.

Barry




Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:49 PM, Trampas wrote:

I got one from Rusty awhile back, never used it but as I recall it was 
only

about $30.

Trampas




	I hate quoting other people's prices but I want to say the pan I got 
from Rusty last year was like $13.00 and the gasket was more like 
$17.00 so $30.00 plus oil sounds about right.
	In fact I had to buy another one this past year as my friend used my 
300CD while I was away ( after hearing a story from a local tow truck 
driver about a girl he was seeing running off the road in a Mercedes) I 
believe he lied to me and let her drive my car. He acted surprised when 
I told him that while I was away someone went off-road with my car. 
When I left for vacation, it was in my driveway. It was parked over a 
sandy spot across the street when I returned.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
John Berryman wrote:
  Some forward thinking Cos have in house day care and allow nursing
 mothers a few extra breaks so they may nourish their children.
 The parents save on ridiculously overpriced day care,

No kidding. I couldn't believe the $1700 a month quote for one
family with two or three kids. Maybe I should quit my job and babysit.
For $1700 a month, I'd be glad to teach a couple of kids how I trade
index futures on the internet. 

Mitch.



Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 08:34 PM, Barry Stark wrote:

A question, if I may, from you computer geek types out there. Here is 
the
issue...I just got my second TIVO, and as you folks may know, you can 
hook
your TIVOs to your area local network and transfer movies from one 
TIVO to

the other or to your computer. You can use either a wired network or a
wireless network. My understanding is that with a wireless network you 
may
get some pauses when watching a recording as it is being transferred 
from a
remote unit to the one at the location where you are viewing. Here is 
my

problem. I already have a wired router and local network between two
computers downstairs, but the TIVOs will be in two separate rooms 
upstairs.
Trying to run the wired network to all those locations would really be 
a
pain. It would seem like the wireless would be the ticket because of 
that
but then I wouldn't get the transfer rates I desire and I'd end up 
spending
some money to change to a wireless network. TIVOs are a bit sensitive 
on

which wireless USB wireless transceivers they will accept so you can't
always use the unit with the best price. I was thinking, I know, I 
know a

dangerous proposition, about how DSL uses just a regular phone line to
transfer data and wondered if I could use my existing telephone wiring 
as
the data lines in a wired network? We are only using one phone line 
and the
house is wired with a 6 conductor phone cable. Could I use one pair of 
the
unused conductors as data lines? Is this a crazy idea or could it 
work? I
would hook the wires directly to the router and then through a wired 
network
USB transceiver to each TIVO. I'm guessing that I'd also have to put 
DSL

type low pass filters on each of my phones.

Barry



	Have you looked into Power Line networking. D-Link offers a set-up 
that plugs into the wall power outlet and a computer. It requires one 
box per machine. I was going to give it a try but I was remodeling the 
basement and seized the opportunity to run the cat.5. no speed loss 
with hard wired network.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] skid plate for 123 - was: Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Terry Geiger
Anybody have one of these factory skid plates?  If so can you email me some 
pictures?  I'd be interested in making one for my wife's 300D.


Terry Geiger
Florence, Alabama USA
http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org
'74 Triumph TR6 * '63 Triumph Herald * '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel


- Original Message - 
From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mercedes had a prominently offered set of steel skid plates in the late 
50s

and 60s (or so), to protect the oil pan and other vulnerable parts.  I was
stationed in Europe at the time, and remember seeing that in the options
list.






[MBZ] e: Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Curt Raymond
In MA, especially in eastern MA $125k buys a condo. We've been looking hard, I 
make somewhere around $45k, there are $125k houses but theres no city sewer and 
the land won't perk or every spring the basement fills with water, or the crack 
dealers ask you to move your car so they can get better cell reception...
   
  Thats about all I'm gonna say on that subject.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:56:05 -0500
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David Brodbeck wrote:
 
  You could start as a lower class trailer trash kid, go to work in an
 auto plant, and lift yourself into the middle class.  If you were 
good,
 you could even climb into the white collar ranks and eventually 
retire
 comfortably with a nice pension, a boat, and a cabin up north.
 That's no longer the case. 

I know somebody who was a special ed student in a largely black school
district near Detroit. He's functionally illiterate, has all the 
spending
traits that you associate with the socioeconomically disadvantaged,
go to rent-to-own shops, payday loans, etc. He got into driving big
trucks about three years ago. Had some crappy OTR jobs the first year,
but now he makes $45k a year, working four hours a day and sleeping in
the truck the other four. Goes home every night. Has medical insurance
and will get a pension if he stays there long enough. (he makes about
three runs a day moving parts between car factories, sleeps between 
runs)
$45k is solidly middle class when you live in a state where $125k buys
a decent three bedroom house. If he can do it, just about anybody can.



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Ahh, doubt it. I've actually made my shoulder sore screwing with the blasted 
thing. I've driven all sorts of different vehicles before, this is definately a 
shifter that isn't working right. I'm just hoping my Indy is back Monday so he 
can do those bushings...
  I do have a backup Indy, he's got no shop though so we'll have to scramble 
for space.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:57:18 -0500
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On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:45 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Shifter moves fine, just can't go into reverse. Doesn't seem to make 
 any difference if the car's driven 40 miles or if its dead cold.
   It *feels* like the lockout isn't opening when I push down on the 
 shifter. Like on the 240D if I hadn't lifted up on the shifter. I 
 don't understand how the lockout works and can't see anything in 
there 
 to give me much clue.


 Now that I'm thinking about it, if the stick is not centered, fore and 
aft pushing down has no effect. Also needs to be moved all the way 
right before pushing down and back for reverse. My wife informed me 
that her 190D would 

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
John Berryman wrote:
  Have you looked into Power Line networking.

Does in-home PLN screw up ham radio like PL internet does?



Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Trampas
Use a 802.11G wireless... 

The phone line is not a twisted pair and you would need 4 wires for
Ethernet. So basically if you did get it to work over the phone line it
would be around 10Mbps which less than 54Mbps 802.11G.

Trampas

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Subject: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

A question, if I may, from you computer geek types out there. Here is the
issue...I just got my second TIVO, and as you folks may know, you can hook
your TIVOs to your area local network and transfer movies from one TIVO to
the other or to your computer. You can use either a wired network or a
wireless network. My understanding is that with a wireless network you may
get some pauses when watching a recording as it is being transferred from a
remote unit to the one at the location where you are viewing. Here is my
problem. I already have a wired router and local network between two
computers downstairs, but the TIVOs will be in two separate rooms upstairs.
Trying to run the wired network to all those locations would really be a
pain. It would seem like the wireless would be the ticket because of that
but then I wouldn't get the transfer rates I desire and I'd end up spending
some money to change to a wireless network. TIVOs are a bit sensitive on
which wireless USB wireless transceivers they will accept so you can't
always use the unit with the best price. I was thinking, I know, I know a
dangerous proposition, about how DSL uses just a regular phone line to
transfer data and wondered if I could use my existing telephone wiring as
the data lines in a wired network? We are only using one phone line and the
house is wired with a 6 conductor phone cable. Could I use one pair of the
unused conductors as data lines? Is this a crazy idea or could it work? I
would hook the wires directly to the router and then through a wired network
USB transceiver to each TIVO. I'm guessing that I'd also have to put DSL
type low pass filters on each of my phones.

Barry


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth

John Berryman wrote:

On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:53 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


At my Wal-Mart, 5 qt jugs of M-1 5W-40 TSUV (when they have it) costs
$21 and a few pennies while qt bottles are $5 and change.

Marshall



	That has been my experience in the past but, like I said the 5qt was 
sold at the same price as 5 separate quart bottles. $26 and change. I 
used to pay that for six packs. It was either auto Zone or Advance AP 
that was selling quarts of M 1 for $6.24 just a couple of weeks ago.


M-1 15W-50 Ext was about $26 for a 5 qt jug when 5W-40 TSUV was $21+.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no reverse

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth

John Berryman wrote:

On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:45 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Shifter moves fine, just can't go into reverse. Doesn't seem to make 
any difference if the car's driven 40 miles or if its dead cold.
  It *feels* like the lockout isn't opening when I push down on the 
shifter. Like on the 240D if I hadn't lifted up on the shifter. I 
don't understand how the lockout works and can't see anything in there 
to give me much clue.




	Now that I'm thinking about it, if the stick is not centered, fore and 
aft pushing down has no effect. Also needs to be moved all the way 
right before pushing down and back for reverse. My wife informed me 
that her 190D would not go into reverse when I first gave it to her and 
it was just a matter of her moving it a little further to the right. It 
never happened again. I hope you're that lucky.


My older daughter had that trouble with the 190D 2.0, 5spd when she 
first started driving it. Took one lesson and then it was NO trouble again.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] skid plate for 123 - was: Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Yeah I got one on my 84 230E which came off my old South African build 200.
As to taking pictures, I could do that I suppose but it would require 
removing it from the vehicle.
I'll hang on in case someone else has one already removed from the vehicle, 
you will also require the measurements I suppose.


Hendrik
with a well protected sump

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Anybody have one of these factory skid plates?  If so can you email me 
some

pictures?  I'd be interested in making one for my wife's 300D.

Terry Geiger
Florence, Alabama USA
http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org
'74 Triumph TR6 * '63 Triumph Herald * '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel


- Original Message - 
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Mercedes had a prominently offered set of steel skid plates in the late
50s
and 60s (or so), to protect the oil pan and other vulnerable parts.  I 
was

stationed in Europe at the time, and remember seeing that in the options
list.




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[MBZ] Is this worth the money?

2006-02-12 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I am thinking about adding another horse to the flock and came across this 
little filly
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2A2320AC
what is the consenus? Is it worth that money? If you look carefully you will 
able to see the sticker of our local DC dealer on the rear window (my 123 has 
one too) which means it is a local car.

Hendrik
with a thistle green 230E and perhaps soon a thistle green 190E, then all I 
require is a thistle green 126 to complete the model line up for the early 80's 
:-)
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On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 08:59 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Ahh, doubt it. I've actually made my shoulder sore screwing with the
 blasted thing. I've driven all sorts of different vehicles before,
 this is definately a shifter that isn't working right. I'm just hoping
 my Indy is back Monday so he can do those bushings...
   I do have a backup Indy, he's got no shop though so we'll have to
 scramble for space.

   -Curt


Cathy complained of a sore shoulder too. The shifter definitely needs
to get past the 3-4 gate before it will be effective when pushed down.
I remember having to get used to it, it's been a long time since I've
driven that car.
  Have you been able to get reverse at all ever?  Since you started
posting about the shifter? Was it intermittent? Can you ask the PO if
they had trouble with it?
I'm doing some wishful thinking here for you.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 09:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:



Remember Marshall is talking about 5w40, the 15w50 now marketed under 
the extended useage is more expensive...


  -Curt



	Maybe that's why I saw a price increase. I saw extended use on the 
bottle but wasn't aware that it is now a different product. This must 
have happened since Summer past. I was too busy to notice many things 
for a stretch, working 16-20 hour days 7 per week can have that effect. 
Plus I'm on Amsoil therapy now.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey

The phone line is not a twisted pair and you would need 4 wires for


Phone line has _always_ been twisted pair.  But whether it is Cat. 5
or not is the question.  Our house, wired in the 70's, certainly isn't,
though it's run with the same three twisted pairs that you might get
in a modern cable.  No foil wrap is the chief difference.


Ethernet. So basically if you did get it to work over the phone line it
would be around 10Mbps which less than 54Mbps 802.11G.


That's the raw in-frame transfer rate, but something tells me that
the normal throughput is quite a bit less.  Our wireless panel to
our ISP (miles away) is 11 Mbps, but we're lucky if we get 1.5 in
effective throughput, even with protocols that stream nicely.

A reliable 10 Mbps link will kick the cookies out of a faster one
that drops more than the occasional frame.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D for sale in Missouri

2006-02-12 Thread LT Don
True. But in spite of all the radar clutter, it is only two Benzes that have
been (or are) under consideration.

On 2/11/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 its hard to keep up with you, one minute you are doing one thing, the
 next another, then the next yet another.




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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
I think I've got a couple spare pans lying around...well, they're
still attached to NFG engines, but around nonetheless.

On 2/11/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the
 moment.  I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around,

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)



Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Harry Watkins
I hate to hear you guys are not going to Walmart, makes my profit slow down
on the stock I hold.  I've had a position for many years and love it when we
come up with a better way.  Ever notice how far away you have to park?

I have probably been inside and personal with more national companies than
most of you and Walmart employees are far from being treated the worst.

After my second retirement, I took a job with the local community college to
teach at industry locations within a five county area.  A homework
assignment given at about the 7th week:  If you were king/queen for one
day, tell the class the one change you would order to make this a better
company?  The answers I would get at two or three of these companies were
so pitiful that I would not give that assignment again at those locations.

I think Walmart is so transparent and most of us know some folks that work
there and can see things not noticed at other places.

I am looking for that next 4 for 1 split.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
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86 SDL Gold
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Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 08:02 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Does in-home PLN screw up ham radio like PL internet does?



No idea.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread OK Don
One would think that our local list mom - used parts dealer would have
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On 2/11/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Suggestion of non 61x models to scrounge from?  there are no diesel
 living at the PnP and the local recycler does not bother with 70's cars

 On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:24 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

  Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.
 
  Time to get out the welder!  Welding oily/fuely metal can be tricky,
  as it soaks into the pores.  Can be done, however.  Of course, a
  U-Pull pan, if available, is easier and plenty cheap enough.
 
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Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Stark
John -
Sounds interesting. I sent the following message with my special concerns to
Netgear and a similar message to powerlines communications. It will be
interesting to see how they respond.


I would like to set up a wired network using your XE102 units between my PC
and a couple of TIVO DVR units. Do you know of any compatibility issues with
TIVOs? I am also using Leviton DHC X-10 units extensively throughout my
home. Do if you know if the XE102 and the X-10 units can successfully
co-exist utilizing the same wiring? Because an X-10 transmitter and the X-10
receiver that is being controlled may be on opposite sides of the input
power supply buss, it is required that a special filter be installed across
the two power legs coming in from the power pole. This lets the X-10 signal
pass without shorting between the two sides of the input power buss so the
units can talk back and forth across both sides of the power buss. This
also keeps my X-10 commands from traveling through the power lines from my
home to all the other homes that are fed by the same step-down transformer
on the power pole. How do you folks handle that situation?

Barry



I found this though. Have a look.

   http://www.powerlinecommunications.net/powerlinenetworking.htm






Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Barry Stark wrote:


John -
Sounds interesting. I sent the following message with my special 
concerns to

Netgear and a similar message to powerlines communications. It will be
interesting to see how they respond.


I would like to set up a wired network using your XE102 units between 
my PC
and a couple of TIVO DVR units. Do you know of any compatibility 
issues with

TIVOs? I am also using Leviton DHC X-10 units extensively throughout my
home. Do if you know if the XE102 and the X-10 units can successfully
co-exist utilizing the same wiring? Because an X-10 transmitter and 
the X-10

receiver that is being controlled may be on opposite sides of the input
power supply buss, it is required that a special filter be installed 
across
the two power legs coming in from the power pole. This lets the X-10 
signal
pass without shorting between the two sides of the input power buss so 
the
units can talk back and forth across both sides of the power buss. 
This
also keeps my X-10 commands from traveling through the power lines 
from my
home to all the other homes that are fed by the same step-down 
transformer

on the power pole. How do you folks handle that situation?

Barry




That ought to do it.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no reverse

2006-02-12 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Marshall,

Just takes a pretty firm pressure from the thumb with enough elbow  
room provided by tall jackstands..  First one was most difficult,  
but practice made next two much easier.


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ


On Feb 11, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

  The bushings cost about $1 each, but putting them in is a  
challenge - at

least the first time.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new 108

2006-02-12 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/11/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 She will come to you when the time is right.  It is meant to be, just
 not this moment.  Wait Grasshopper, wait.

Only when you can snatch the keys to my prestine 6.9 from my hand will
you be ready.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/11/06, paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If taking some personal moral high-road based on things you've seen on
 Dateline or 60 Minutes floats your boat, then good for you.

 Again - no one is forcing anybody to work there.  If you work for
 Wal-Mart and find their employment practices unacceptable, WORK
 SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I hate to wade into the middle of this, but you might want to find
some kevlar. I take personal offense to this statement. You seem to
think things are simple, or laid out in some distinctly straight line.
You say work somewhere else like finding a job is as easy as falling
down flights of stairs.

A few years ago, I worked for a Level 3 NAP. A Network Access Point.
An ISP to ISP's Our peers were well known names, ATT, Sprint, AOL. I
was a skilled worker, UNIX knowledge, Cisco training. Deep deep tech
industry mantra, magics and lore. They bought a competitor and I found
myself downsized.

But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I
would venture forth and find me work. A week turned to three, then
seven, then 3 months. Savings began to feel the strain. I had a family
to feed, and luckily my wife happened to have an above average
income job at $11.00 an hour

The IT job market where I was and as it was, flooded with competent
people. Door after door slammed in my face. I started searching for
anything to make money. Line tech at a Jiffy Lube, Door to Door
salesman of replacement windows, Taco Bell manager. Jobs I was
overqualified for, and bruntly told so.

All told I was laid off for almost 9 months before I finally found
another job. Your cruel and callous statement only says to me that
you have no vision but where your head is firmly stuck and you have no
knowledge of the struggles of your fellow man around you just barely
able to make by. If finding another job is so simple, Sir, I challenge
you to call your boss this moment to resign and find another.

Call me in 9 months to let me know how you are doing.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/11/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Daycare for those small children can eat most of her wages,

 A former coworker of mine has three kids, one a new baby, and
 mentioned in passing that day care was $1700/mo.  I don't know
 if that was for two, or her projected figure once number three
 was in drop-off mode in a few weeks.  Steep.

 -- Jim

I pay $25 a day for child care services, you do the math. All I know
is that it is *cheap* *cheap* *cheap* for day care for a 2 year old.
School is a great $ relief when viewed in this light.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey

But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I
would venture forth and find me work. A week turned to three, then
seven, then 3 months.


This ASIC engineer has been out of work since May.  No sign
of hiring in my field, or in related ones I'm probably still
qualified in.  One complication: I will not relocate to some
wretched hell-on-earth like Silicon Valley.  We have acreage,
something you cannot find in a whole lot of places.  _This_
is where we are going to raise our son.

Pity to hear about Iffy Lube being so picky, I was holding
that prospect in reserve.  I have yet to 'date outside my
species', I suppose I had thought that option always to
be there.  I hope I don't find out otherwise!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick

It's rough being Overqualified.
When I was in my late 20's i decided to go back to college. I sold 
everything  farm and all and figured I'd have no trouble getting a min 
wage job to cover the bare expensesBZZZT WRONG!
Eveerywhere I went, overqualified, I had made too much money. Nobody 
would hire anyone who was used to making a bunch of cash because they 
figure that you will jump on the first job that comes along in your past 
field and leave them high and dry. Even when I did explain that i was 
going nowhere for at least 5 more years. They would rather hire a kid 
straight out of high school than a person who has been successful and 
even successfully run their own business.


I wound up working in a day care center for a few years for min wage, 
and while i absoloutly love children, working in one of those places 
...with no health insurance provided, is darn near suicide. Even though 
people are not supposed to bring children in sick, they always do ( and 
they drop them off on the fly and magically can't be reached until 5:00  
)so if you work in those places, you are sick all the time just like the 
kids( nothing like being 29 with chicken pox...ouch ). After looking 
back at it, I figure I made enough working there to pay the doctor bills 
and buy some food.


The only way to get a low wage job if you have any kind of 
overqualification is to lie about it. Leave a 6 year blank on your 
resume and tell them you've been on a bender and  just got out of rehab. 
You'll get hired in a heartbeat.


-Robert

Jim Cathey wrote:

But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I
would venture forth and find me work. A week turned to three, then
seven, then 3 months.



This ASIC engineer has been out of work since May.  No sign
of hiring in my field, or in related ones I'm probably still
qualified in.  One complication: I will not relocate to some
wretched hell-on-earth like Silicon Valley.  We have acreage,
something you cannot find in a whole lot of places.  _This_
is where we are going to raise our son.

Pity to hear about Iffy Lube being so picky, I was holding
that prospect in reserve.  I have yet to 'date outside my
species', I suppose I had thought that option always to
be there.  I hope I don't find out otherwise!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Stark
Thanks folks for all your help on educating me and setting me straight. Well
I'm pretty sure that the phone line solution is out. First of all I don't
have enough conductors, and then the potential for damaging things is not
worth the risk. I'll look a little more into the system that uses the house
wiring, but the wireless really seems to be the ticket.

Barry


That ought to do it.

Johnny B.




Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Brian Chase
When I holed my aluminum pan on the big war wagon, I had it welded, and it's 
held for like fifteen years now. It would seem that if aluminum could handle 
it, steel could. Maybe go for the cheaper option?


Brian


From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:12:20 -0500

redghost wrote:
 Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
 the Karma Bug bites me again?

I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the
pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Brian Chase
No joke? A new oil pan for $30? I'd have expected 8 times that. I should get 
one just in case. Or better yet, I'd like to fashion a skid plate.


Brian
83 240D


From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:49:30 -0500

I got one from Rusty awhile back, never used it but as I recall it was only
about $30.

Trampas

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of redghost
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

Marshall,

I am very slow, slow as my car.  That is what surprised me, was I hit
something going fast enough that it had force enough to go through the
pan.

There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the
moment.  I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around,
I will be happy knowing whatever mystery pan killer was out there can
not keep me off the road for long.


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:12 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

 redghost wrote:
 Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
 the Karma Bug bites me again?

 I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the
 pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner

 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/11/06, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A question, if I may, from you computer geek types out there. Here is the

Barry,

I have a couple of caveats for you that I have not seen mentioned yet.
Just something to think about, really. First, the idea of using the
same cable your telephone service is on will not work for a couple of
reasons. The largest being how phones themselves work. Unless you took
special care when the house was being built, it is almost a certainty
that your phones are full serial connect. This is extremely bad for
what you want to do.

When my house was built, I took special care that Cat 5 was run for
both data, and voice to each and every room. All cables come back to a
central punch down block for maintenance. The phones are punched down
currently to work in serial as most all homes work. The reason that
when you receive a call all phones in your home ring is that they
receive the current at the same time. It runs in a loop, kind of like
an old string of christmas lights. Phones are not network devices.

Trying to run a network signal in this way will not work from a star,
or Ethernet, topology. You'd have to completely convert to hub, like
token ring, topology and use a bridge to put the token network onto
your Ethernet network. Very complicated for what you want to do.

If however, your house was built as mine, and the cable runs back to a
central punch down (for all cables, in serial means that it's run in
loop so you only have the single set of pairs back at the NID) you
could in theory rip them out and rewire them to punch down in network
style so the pairs needed for 10MB would be available and then you
could do what you want. However, you would want to leave a pair (which
is in telephone, oddly enough, the center pair for line 1) in the
series block to keep your phones on. To have your phones in network
style would mean the requirement of a PBX and internal extensions.

Basically, large large headache, and your house is almost certainly
full serial unless you specified to have it specifically wired as if
you wanted a PBX installed at a later date. Ergo, not an option.

The power line networking gear has a caveat as well. At least it used
to, and if they still operate in the same fashion, then it is true now
as well. The gear, as well as X10 gear, *only* work on wiring that is
also in series. Your house has a breaker box. That breaker box has
several divisions in it. Let's say that we can assume we know you have
a breaker for your kitchen, a breaker for your living room, and a
breaker for bedrooms. (My house has 15 separate breakers so we are
over simplifying here) If you plug a piece of X10 / Power Line gear
into your kitchen outlet, it will be unable to hear any thing that is
plugged into your bedroom.

The gear works by modulating the frequency of the AC current. Kind of
like changing radio stations. AC current operates in a specific
frequency band. The gear introduces signalling in a separate band,
sometimes higher, sometimes lower and uses that the nudge the AC
current one way or the other freq wise. The devices you plug in count
on AC current fluctuating, so doesn't care that a dip or a spike
happens in a very limited range. But the other Power Line networking
gear does, and uses it to pass traffic back and forth.

The PL in the bedroom can not hear the PL in the kitchen because they
are on completely isolated separate circuits (to keep your house from
burning down) I know that power companies are playing with offering
net access across power lines, but that is basically changing the freq
of the entire house, by changing it at the main meter before it
enters, and is divided, at the breaker. Unless PL gear has come along
way since last look, it can not do this.

Meaning that if you can shut off a breaker for Bed/Tivo 1 and Bed/Tivo
2 doesn't care and stays happily lit, the PL gear doesn't do you any
good anyway.

Basically, you are back to your own conclusion that you want to
change. You either need to run your own Cat5 to both rooms and all the
way back down to your router, or you need to use Wireless. (Though, if
the Tivo can take advantage of the new proprietary WiFi standards,
this might be best. Linksys, for example, has a standard that is their
own, piggy backed on the regular WiFi standard. So if you use all
Linksys gear, per se, it can offer double or triple the regular speed
because it's talking it's own code.)

Your Mileage May Vary, but I hope it helps.

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[MBZ] 190D shifter

2006-02-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah I drove it Monday fine, Tuesday I road while my wife drove and she had 
trouble with it, took much fiddling. Wednesday when I had it back I noticed it 
was a bit fiddly but not so bad I couldn't live with it. Thursday I couldn't 
ever get into reverse. Friday was okay in the morning but I couldn't get 
reverse to come home from work. Yesterday I couldn't get reverse ever.
   
  The PO is apparently an idiot. He didn't notice that the thermostat was stuck 
open, that the lights on the ACC unit didn't work, that the antenna didn't go 
up or that the tires only had 10psi each... He made bubba repairs wherever 
possible and when he couldn't figure out which wires to the radio were speaker 
wires he just ran new wires to the fronts only... Total chucklehead.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:45:15 -0500
From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 87
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On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 08:59 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Ahh, doubt it. I've actually made my shoulder sore screwing with the 
 blasted thing. I've driven all sorts of different vehicles before, 
 this is definately a shifter that isn't working right. I'm just 
hoping 
 my Indy is back Monday so he can do those bushings...
   I do have a backup Indy, he's got no shop though so we'll have to 
 scramble for space.

   -Curt


 Cathy complained of a sore shoulder too. The shifter definitely needs 
to get past the 3-4 gate before it will be effective when pushed down. 
I remember having to get used to it, it's been a long time since I've 
driven that car.
   Have you been able to get reverse at all ever?  Since you started 
posting about the shifter? Was it intermittent? Can you ask the PO if 
they had trouble with it?
 I'm doing some wishful thinking here for you.

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 Remember we own diesels, they love those 600 mile one way trips.

They may, but _I_ do not!  I did apply at a place that would
have been a 90-mile (one-way) daily commute, but that didn't
pan out.  That's far, for here.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey

currently to work in serial as most all homes work. The reason that
when you receive a call all phones in your home ring is that they
receive the current at the same time. It runs in a loop, kind of like
an old string of christmas lights. Phones are not network devices.


I don't know telco terminology, but the phones are all in electrical
_parallel_.  The cabling is probably point-to-point as you say, not
a star (hub) topology.  _Every_ string of christmas lights I've
ever seen is cabled point-to-point, though the electrical connections
can be series or parallel depending on the bulb style.

I like to distinguish between the electrical wiring and the cabling
style, as they are different.  Assuming they're not can lead to
confusion.


Trying to run a network signal in this way will not work from a star,
or Ethernet, topology. You'd have to completely convert to hub, like
token ring, topology and use a bridge to put the token network onto
your Ethernet network. Very complicated for what you want to do.


Token ring networks I was exposed to had extremely complicated
connectivity, and were series-connected with point-to-point links.
Not hub-like at all.  But that was back in the days when it was
not clear that Ethernet was going to win.


The power line networking gear has a caveat as well. At least it used
to, and if they still operate in the same fashion, then it is true now
as well. The gear, as well as X10 gear, *only* work on wiring that is
also in series. Your house has a breaker box. That breaker box has
several divisions in it. Let's say that we can assume we know you have
a breaker for your kitchen, a breaker for your living room, and a
breaker for bedrooms. (My house has 15 separate breakers so we are
over simplifying here) If you plug a piece of X10 / Power Line gear
into your kitchen outlet, it will be unable to hear any thing that is
plugged into your bedroom.


Speaking only for X10, this is wrong.  The 180 kHz signal has no
trouble at all reaching any outlet in our house that is on the same
winding of the power transformer, it's the outlets that are connected
to the _other_ side of the transformer that are spotty.  One solution
for this is to install a bridge across the two legs of the usual 220V
center-tapped transformer so that the signal can migrate _around_
the transformer rather than through it.

I don't know anything about PL networking gear.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Individual health policies, was Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread lee
We're way off topic now, but I will go with it-

I am now happily gone from the field of medical reimbursement, but I did work 
in that field for nearly 20 years. For a year or so of that time I worked for 
a TPA which provided individual health policies to the self-employed. What an 
eye-opener!

Such policies by their very nature are non-group and therefore the principle 
of shared risk, the fundamental basis of insurance, is not in play. The 
Insurer has to get more out of you than they pay, its that simple. 
Consequently, these policies look dandy if you are reasonably healthy, but if 
you get sick (I mean really sick, you have a heart attack,  are diagnosed 
with cancer, or diabetes, say) your insurance company is likely to reach into 
its bag of dirty tricks to either rescind your coverage retroactively, 
increase your  rates  to the point that you cannot pay them, issue a rider 
excluding coverage for your conditon, or declare your condition to be 
pre-existing or otherwise excluded under the policy. Failing those things, 
the insurer may simply pend all  of your claims for six months to a year 
while they investigate to FIND OUT if they can do any of those things, with 
the net effect that your bills don't get paid anyway until the investigation 
is concluded, if ever. 

I'm not kidding. I worked in  the Medical Investigations Unit and later worked 
under the TPA's in-house counsel responding to  Department of Insurance 
complaints, and this is how the thing worked. If the bill was high enough, 
they would even hire a PI to try and find a reason to deny the bills. 

Lee

On Saturday 11 February 2006 5:04, David Brodbeck wrote:
 paul wrote:
  I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance.  I can think of
  4 or 5 friends that are also self-employed, and pay for their own health
  insurance.  There are options.  Yes, it's expensive (around $400/month
  for the wife and I), but readily available to anyone wanting it.

 It's readily available if you're young and healthy.  If you have any
 history of illness it dries up quickly.  In some cases something as
 minor as a history of depression has caused people to be unable to get
 individual health insurance.  Basically, they'll sell it to you as long
 as you don't need it. ;)

 $400/month is also an awful lot for someone making minimum wage.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Rentfro

Well said, Ed.
People who've lived it can explain it the best to those who haven't a clue.

Bob Rentfro


- Original Message - 
From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto



On 2/11/06, paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If taking some personal moral high-road based on things you've seen on
Dateline or 60 Minutes floats your boat, then good for you.

Again - no one is forcing anybody to work there.  If you work for
Wal-Mart and find their employment practices unacceptable, WORK
SOMEWHERE ELSE.


I hate to wade into the middle of this, but you might want to find
some kevlar. I take personal offense to this statement. You seem to
think things are simple, or laid out in some distinctly straight line.
You say work somewhere else like finding a job is as easy as falling
down flights of stairs.

A few years ago, I worked for a Level 3 NAP. A Network Access Point.
An ISP to ISP's Our peers were well known names, ATT, Sprint, AOL. I
was a skilled worker, UNIX knowledge, Cisco training. Deep deep tech
industry mantra, magics and lore. They bought a competitor and I found
myself downsized.

But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I
would venture forth and find me work. A week turned to three, then
seven, then 3 months. Savings began to feel the strain. I had a family
to feed, and luckily my wife happened to have an above average
income job at $11.00 an hour

The IT job market where I was and as it was, flooded with competent
people. Door after door slammed in my face. I started searching for
anything to make money. Line tech at a Jiffy Lube, Door to Door
salesman of replacement windows, Taco Bell manager. Jobs I was
overqualified for, and bruntly told so.

All told I was laid off for almost 9 months before I finally found
another job. Your cruel and callous statement only says to me that
you have no vision but where your head is firmly stuck and you have no
knowledge of the struggles of your fellow man around you just barely
able to make by. If finding another job is so simple, Sir, I challenge
you to call your boss this moment to resign and find another.

Call me in 9 months to let me know how you are doing.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread lee
This reminds me of the logic by which Peru was once touted as a thriving 
economy. The average yearly income was around $20,000 per person, which 
sounds damn good for a south american country. 

On closer investigation, though, that was an average with considerable  skew - 
most Peruvians lived in crushing poverty, with a few ruling families reaping 
astronomical profits off the country's natural resources, yielding a nice 
average. It was rather like saying that if your feet are frozen in a block 
of ice and your head is dipped in boiling water you should  on average be 
quite comfortable. 

Similarly, while our stock markets may be up and our GDP may look good, that 
may on closer investigation mean that a relatively small number of people in 
this country are reaping record profits while most of us are seeing our 
earnings stagnate or decline. 

Lee

On Saturday 11 February 2006 1:41, David Brodbeck wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think this trend has to stop somewhere - I read recently that white
  collar jobs were being sent overseas like all the others.

 An economist would say that it will stop when the wages are equalized --
 wages in poorer countries will rise, and wages in richer countries will
 fall, until they meet in the middle.  If you're an economist, your only
 measure of people's well-being is GDP, and by that measure this kind of
 trade is actually a beneficial situation overall.

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Re: [MBZ] 190D shifter

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 09:45 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Yeah I drove it Monday fine, Tuesday I road while my wife drove and 
she had trouble with it, took much fiddling. Wednesday when I had it 
back I noticed it was a bit fiddly but not so bad I couldn't live with 
it. Thursday I couldn't ever get into reverse. Friday was okay in the 
morning but I couldn't get reverse to come home from work. Yesterday I 
couldn't get reverse ever.


  The PO is apparently an idiot. He didn't notice that the thermostat 
was stuck open, that the lights on the ACC unit didn't work, that the 
antenna didn't go up or that the tires only had 10psi each... He made 
bubba repairs wherever possible and when he couldn't figure out which 
wires to the radio were speaker wires he just ran new wires to the 
fronts only... Total chucklehead.


  -Curt




	Sounds like a sure-fire remedy for boredom, plenty to keep you from 
suffering the idle mind/devil's playground syndrome


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap eBay 116

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

What car?  Will see what I have.

John Berryman wrote:


On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 11:37 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-Mercedes-Benz-w116-300-SD-Low- 
Milage-WVO- 
SVO_W0QQitemZ4609803406QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZView 
Item


Needs interior work. No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
'



	Cheap, junk, rust bucket , water baby with broken odometer. The world  
famous $100.00 was and still is in much better shape.
	Speaking of which...KALEB I NEED AT LEAST A LF CALIPER  
BENDIX, A PAIR IF YOU HAVE THEM or should I just go straight to Regina  
for this request.


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

10 to work at walmart is pretty good..  Thats more than alot of people make.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr.



~
~from what I understand they pay pretty decent for what sort of job it 
~is, and they promote from within.  Its a good way for otherwise 
~untrained people to actually get somewhere in life

~





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Re: [MBZ] fluids usage

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
its just regular old dextron 3 for most pumps.  Some of the newer ones 
require the mb stuff though.


Sunil Hari wrote:


Regarding PS fluid, I heard -somewhere- that you didn't have to use the
actual MB stuff.  Who else makes acceptable PS fluid?

Also, what brands are acceptable for ATF?  Obviously, MB makes the right
stuff but what can I use that's available locally?

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
having many different sources of income is a good thing these days.  If 
one fails you have the others to carry you on till you replace the 
failed source.  Im not so sure going to college and getting a big fancy 
job is the right thing these days.  That job could be taken from you at 
any moment.  Then where would you be?  No job, big fancy tastes and 
lifestyle on a walmart budget


Tom Scordato wrote:


Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr.



I guess my question is, can Wal-Mart afford to pay their employees 2 , 3, 4, 
5 times as much with all the bennys?  Will their economic model support it 
and the dudes at the top still stay rich or at least have a decent income? 
If they can then there is a real crime.


If they can not, if there is such a slight margin, then this is the way the 
economies of scale will level out to.  It is a free market society. 
Although my personal jury is still out on Wal-Mart, few cries are heard when 
Lowes or Home Depot put the local hardware store guy out.  Now one cried 
when the buggy whip guys went under. No one cried when in 1950 we had 20 
major industrial boiler manufactures and now we have three.


The way I see it (and I am not an economic major) is the world we live in is 
global like it or not.  The job field is labor blue and white color is being 
leveled (which and until that leveling process emm levels, expect a 
total decrease in out salaries, benefits, and number of skilled high paying 
jobs).  Couple this with computer technology allowing folks anywhere to do 
anything, and our own suicidal tendencies (nafta, us not buying only 
American  produces 20 - 40 years ago when we could have halted this, high 
cost of medicine, our tendency to be sue happy, pending natural disasters, 
debt, terrorists, shitty work ethic) things will get way worse.  It is a 
very fragile system as Katrina and 9-11 proved.


People will have to become like many of the folks in Maine.  They sell 
things in the summer, do things in the winter, pick crops, fish, work a 
little job here and there.  We have got to become survivors. Like we were in 
the pioneer days.  In college (if you can afford the $20K to $70K per year 
nut and increasing by 6%-12% a year) we should major in a white collar 
things and blue collar things maybe welding or working heavy equipment. 
When one thing goes south, maybe you have the other to fall back on.  The 
day is coming when I am afraid when working at Wal-Mart may be a major 
career move.  I hope not but who knows.  My advise is keep a gun and allot 
of cash on hand.


Regards Tom Scordato





































- Original Message - 
From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto




Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr.



~
~from what I understand they pay pretty decent for what sort of job it
~is, and they promote from within.  Its a good way for otherwise
~untrained people to actually get somewhere in life
~



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Alma, Ark
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'82 300CD (158,222 kmi)
'90 300E  '82 300D (parts or run?)

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Re: [MBZ] Oil, oil, which oil!?

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You might need 4:10 gears if you are towing 10K lbs.  A suburban is not 
going to tow 10K lbs anyways, as they only came in 1/2 and 3/4 ton.  All 
the parts books say they never came with 4:10 gears, and I have never 
seen or heard of one unless somebody stuck that rear end in later.  A 
suburban will do just fine going up hills with regular gearing towing 
what it was meant to tow.


Curt Raymond wrote:


Who says? Any why would you want a higher rear end for towing? 4.10 IS towing 
gears, so you can climb hills and not eat your transmission. Johnny B is right 
you're thinking like a flatlander on this one. The Sub just basically just a 
pickup with a different body right?
  Also the Suburban has had what like 5 different body styles? Probably more 
its been around since the '20s or '30s I think. You're telling me in all that 
time it NEVER came with a 4.10 rear? I'd think it'd have at worst been a 
factory option.
   
  Boy Scout camp I worked at had a Sub, it'd been the case vehicle for the Vinalhaven fire department. Young camp instructor's dream ride, 454, auto trans, 4wd, 33 tires and the camp gas pump. Not that it needed the 454, it was geared low (maybe even 4.10) and would idle up trees if you needed it to. We'd load it until the tires scuffed the fenderliners and it never gave a bit of trouble. It was probably an late '80s model, had square headlights in the older boxier body style but had EFI.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:27:12 -0600

From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The topic was suburbans, chevy suburbans.  I have no idea what fords 
use.  I just know 4:10 was not availalble from the factory in the 
suburban.




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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I remember when walmart first started selling groceries in their stores 
(claremore got one of the first supercenters since sam waltons wife is 
from here and her family is still here).  At that time I think it had a 
video store, and like a hair place in there.  I said then (early 90's) 
that next thing you know they would be selling large appliances, 
gasoline, and new cars and have their own bank.  Well they sell large 
appliances, most of them have gas stations out front, next thing you 
know they will be selling new cars.  And now it seems they are going 
into the banking industry.  I cant remember the term now from school 
days when we learned about companies that owned every aspect of their 
business chain.  As in, from the warehouse to the trucks that deliver it 
to the store.


David Brodbeck wrote:


paul wrote:


i doubt that most Wal-Mart shoppers have a credit card.



Wal-Mart seems to feel differently -- they've been leaning hard on banks
and credit card processors to lower their processing fees, because it's
a large expense for them.  Recently they filed an application to form
their own bank, so they could process their own payments instead of
contracting with a real bank to do it.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap eBay 116

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


What car?  Will see what I have.

John Berryman wrote:




	Remember the white 79 300SD I drove to Rusty-Q The $100 car? That one. 
I'll probably want to rebuild them, so if they ain't stuck like mine 
and your nice to me I'll go for a pair.
	Let me know. I'm giving the 201Euro to Cathy as soon as Winter's 
finished and I will use the 116 as a beater until it needs something 
serious.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yep, I bet 80% of their business is on debit/credit cards.

John Berryman wrote:


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 03:06 PM, paul wrote:



been in a Wal-Mart lately, Johnathan B.?

p.




	Yes, just the other day. Looking for Mobil 1 tranny fluid and/or 15-50 
found 2qts of 15-50, no tranny fluid.


	Folks were whipping out credit cards like they were going out of 
style. All the self check-outs were occupied too. A credit/debit card 
is needed to use it.


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

how much is amsoil anyways?

John Berryman wrote:


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 02:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:



but I still have never seen a 5qt 5w40



Wanna see a quart of Amsoil full synthetic 5w-40?

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

10 to work at walmart is pretty good..  Thats more than alot of people 
make.


Luther Gulseth wrote:




Klebbie,
Do us all a favor and kill this thread, please.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Wipers

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

where can you get them?  Walmart?

Tom Scordato wrote:

Brian I have had Bosch Micro edges up north in PA for almost three years 
same pair on my 77 300D.  I clean once in a while with 303 Aerospace 
protectorant


Just showing signs of wear, but never make that funky noise or skip.  Make 
sure you have no wax on your windshield/Tom
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Subject: [MBZ] Wipers



What do you guys think of Bosch wipers? I'd always bought Anco just 'cause 
I

was used to 'em, but began to take note of how they begin to streak after
just a couple uses. One night I picked up some Bosches, and they're 
better.
I also recently got talked into buying the  Bosch platinum or whatever 
the
more expensive type is because they were offering a free $10 gift card. 
I'm
not sure that I've noticed a difference with the more expensive Bosches 
over

the regular Bosches.

Brian
83 240D

someone - forgot who - wrote:
After seeing someone either here or mercedesshop mention Michelin
wipers, I found them at WalMart today, $5.76 in all sizes up to
24. I bought one to replace a torn wiper on my Taurus. It was
made in USA by Pylon, which has a license to sell wipers under
the Michelin name. I drove home on a wet salty freeway, and can
report that it wiped clean without chatter. I like it better than
the ANCO Aerovantage blades on that car. I'll buy one for the other
side next time I'm in town.

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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new 108

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I have a 4 speed version down here, its still available.

Ed Booher wrote:


Gah!! I just missed a 70 250 for $1K. Was in the morning paper, and
gone by the time I called.  *sighs* Just wanted to rant and share.
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


how much is amsoil anyways?

John Berryman wrote:



	Depends on which oil, from $5.20 - $8.75.  I think I will stick with 
the Euro formula 5w-40 full synthetic @$6.85 retail but as a dealer it 
would be roughly 20% less.
	If you want a catalog I'll send you one. I'm still waiting for the 
rest of my dealer package to arrive. It's probably sitting in my PO 
Box. Haven't been to the PO since Wednesday.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Wipers

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


where can you get them?  Walmart?




	Advance AP carries them and i believe I've gotten them from Auto Zone 
too.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
You really need Gmail--this thread has (mostly) stayed in one neat
little box, for me to either view, archive or delete, at will.  Get
Gmail now and you'll never be bothered by these long rambling OT
diatribes again.

On 2/12/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Klebbie,
 Do us all a favor and kill this thread, please.

Casey
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'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yes and no.  I dont think you can negotiate a good group rate insurance 
policy on your own.  The company can because they have many employees. 
The cost is then less.  If they gave you the money that spend on you for 
that you could not get the same coverage on your own.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


you wrote:our current health care system


assumes your employer will provide you with health insurance



ya'll do realize that any money paid by your employer for any benefits you 
might have is money that could be paid directly to you and it would be the 
same thing.  Typically, you cost your company 2 times what they pay you. 
The only thing they do is pay for stuff *for* you.  You could just as easily 
pay for it yourself if they gave you the money they would normally spend on 
your behalf.  The same whether it's health/life insurance, vacation or sick 
leave.  It all adds to what you cost the company to keep you around.  Social 
Security is similar - exceot you pay around 1/2 and they pay about 1/2...


Everything the company provides in the way of so-called benefits is money 
you could probably better spend yourself - if they'd give it to you.  But 
then you wouldn;t be a employee - you'd be a contractor.


;-)

Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I have plenty of them around.

OK Don wrote:


One would think that our local list mom - used parts dealer would have
chimed in by now ---

On 2/11/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Suggestion of non 61x models to scrounge from?  there are no diesel
living at the PnP and the local recycler does not bother with 70's cars

On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:24 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:



Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.


Time to get out the welder!  Welding oily/fuely metal can be tricky,
as it soaks into the pores.  Can be done, however.  Of course, a
U-Pull pan, if available, is easier and plenty cheap enough.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:


You really need Gmail--this thread has (mostly) stayed in one neat
little box, for me to either view, archive or delete, at will.  Get
Gmail now and you'll never be bothered by these long rambling OT
diatribes again.



I can easily set my computer to auto-delete by subject, content etc.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Cheap eBay 116

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

OK, will check on it.

John Berryman wrote:


On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



What car?  Will see what I have.

John Berryman wrote:





	Remember the white 79 300SD I drove to Rusty-Q The $100 car? That one. 
I'll probably want to rebuild them, so if they ain't stuck like mine 
and your nice to me I'll go for a pair.
	Let me know. I'm giving the 201Euro to Cathy as soon as Winter's 
finished and I will use the 116 as a beater until it needs something 
serious.


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 10 to work at walmart is pretty good..  Thats more than alot of people make.

Unfortunately, associates make less than dept managers. 
At Meijers, everybody is unionized, and the cashiers make about $12-14.
I try to shop there for the stuff they are competitive on. (Walmart's
groceries are no bargain around here anyway)



Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
Yes, but Gmail organizes every thread automatically.  It's free and
really is the best tool for viewing and managing listservs--it's all I
use it for these days.

On 2/12/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can easily set my computer to auto-delete by subject, content etc.

Casey
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'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
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Re: [MBZ] Wipers

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 where can you get them?  Walmart?

Advance auto parts has Bosch in regular and excel. 

Used to be the only thing that would work on my Saab 99's
curved canopy. Most wipers only touched the windscreen at
the center of the blade, with the ends flapping in the breeze.



[MBZ] Mallwart

2006-02-12 Thread frederick w moir

ED,
BTDT, and I am there again, being 63 does not help either!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
I have only 3 brain cells left and they are pulling double shifts!





Re: [MBZ] 190D shifter

2006-02-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats one way to look at it. Its kind of fun to spend my lunchbreak in the car 
fiddling around, then come back into work and declare I fixed something. Thats 
more than some of my coworkers accomplish all day. Unfortunately considering 
the blizzard we're having right now and my lack of a shop this shifter issue 
will have to be tackled by a real mechanic.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:34:10 -0500
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On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 09:45 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Yeah I drove it Monday fine, Tuesday I road while my wife drove and 
 she had trouble with it, took much fiddling. Wednesday when I had it 
 back I noticed it was a bit fiddly but not so bad I couldn't live 
with 
 it. Thursday I couldn't ever get into reverse. Friday was okay in the 
 morning but I couldn't get reverse to come home from work. Yesterday 
I 
 couldn't get reverse ever.

   The PO is apparently an idiot. He didn't notice that the thermostat 
 was stuck open, that the lights on the ACC unit didn't work, that the 
 antenna didn't go up or that the tires only had 10psi each... He made 
 bubba repairs wherever possible and when he couldn't figure out which 
 wires to the radio were speaker wires he just ran new wires to the 
 fronts only... Total chucklehead.

   -Curt



 Sounds like a sure-fire remedy for boredom, plenty to keep you from 
suffering the idle mind/devil's playground syndrome

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] 190D shifter

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Thats one way to look at it. Its kind of fun to spend my lunchbreak in 
the car fiddling around, then come back into work and declare I fixed 
something. Thats more than some of my coworkers accomplish all day. 
Unfortunately considering the blizzard we're having right now and my 
lack of a shop this shifter issue will have to be tackled by a real 
mechanic.


  -Curt



	I hear ya Curt, luckily the storm is concentrated mostly south of me. 
It was spitting snow about an hour ago, overcast now. I always try real 
hard to get things squared away before Winter kicks in. Doesn't always 
work out that way though.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Johnny B.,

As you know, I Mac, too.. I'm running 10.4.4 on my iBook G4.

And Mac Mail does work very well  And for the times I need to  
use a pc...  It's there then too.


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

On Feb 12, 2006, at 10:35 AM, John Berryman wrote:




It may be good but OS X gives me all that and I use it. Threads are
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and

all that comes with it. Mac Mail works for me.

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Believe me, Waltyour one message (in light of the Wal mart thread) is 
not cluttering the list.


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  Sorry for cluttering the list but I can't get through on my Juno
address so I thought I would try on this one


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Re: [MBZ] 190D shifter

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Rentfro
I noted two words today that , depending on how you looked at them, were 
odd:


unionized and coworkers could be thought of as

un-ionized and cow-orkers

or not

Bob Rentfro


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Thats one way to look at it. Its kind of fun to spend my lunchbreak in the 
car fiddling around, then come back into work and declare I fixed 
something. Thats more than some of my coworkers accomplish all day. 
Unfortunately considering the blizzard we're having right now and my lack 
of a shop this shifter issue will have to be tackled by a real mechanic.


 -Curt

 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:34:10 -0500
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On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 09:45 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:


Yeah I drove it Monday fine, Tuesday I road while my wife drove and
she had trouble with it, took much fiddling. Wednesday when I had it
back I noticed it was a bit fiddly but not so bad I couldn't live

with

it. Thursday I couldn't ever get into reverse. Friday was okay in the
morning but I couldn't get reverse to come home from work. Yesterday

I

couldn't get reverse ever.

  The PO is apparently an idiot. He didn't notice that the thermostat
was stuck open, that the lights on the ACC unit didn't work, that the
antenna didn't go up or that the tires only had 10psi each... He made
bubba repairs wherever possible and when he couldn't figure out which
wires to the radio were speaker wires he just ran new wires to the
fronts only... Total chucklehead.

  -Curt




Sounds like a sure-fire remedy for boredom, plenty to keep you from
suffering the idle mind/devil's playground syndrome

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am




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Re: [MBZ] 190D shifter

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Rentfro

Johnny B typed:

I hear ya Curt, luckily the storm is concentrated mostly south of me.
It was spitting snow about an hour ago, overcast now. I always try real
hard to get things squared away before Winter kicks in. Doesn't always
work out that way though.

Good luck and hunker down you east coasters...I'll not tell you how my 
duties today were doing pool PMs and trimming my palm trees.



Bob Rentfro
ARIZONA...no rain for 117 days




[MBZ] This has to be a scam

2006-02-12 Thread Rick Knoble
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/133278975.html

I smell a scam...
Rick Knoble 
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'87 190 DT
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...or a missing digit in the price...

Bob Rentfro


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 http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/133278975.html

 I smell a scam...
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Re: [MBZ] This has to be a scam

2006-02-12 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Or an 'ex-wife' taking care of a minor detail when he said sell  
the car and keep the money.


Chuck
Phoenix AZ

On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


...or a missing digit in the price...

Bob Rentfro


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I smell a scam...
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread paul

Kevlar?  What are you gonna do to me, Eddie?

Oh, and by the way.i don't give a rat's ass what you take offense 
to.  Sorry your life sucks so badly lately.


p.


Ed Booher wrote:


On 2/11/06, paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


If taking some personal moral high-road based on things you've seen on
Dateline or 60 Minutes floats your boat, then good for you.

Again - no one is forcing anybody to work there.  If you work for
Wal-Mart and find their employment practices unacceptable, WORK
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
   



I hate to wade into the middle of this, but you might want to find
some kevlar. I take personal offense to this statement. You seem to
think things are simple, or laid out in some distinctly straight line.
You say work somewhere else like finding a job is as easy as falling
down flights of stairs.

A few years ago, I worked for a Level 3 NAP. A Network Access Point.
An ISP to ISP's Our peers were well known names, ATT, Sprint, AOL. I
was a skilled worker, UNIX knowledge, Cisco training. Deep deep tech
industry mantra, magics and lore. They bought a competitor and I found
myself downsized.

But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I
would venture forth and find me work. A week turned to three, then
seven, then 3 months. Savings began to feel the strain. I had a family
to feed, and luckily my wife happened to have an above average
income job at $11.00 an hour

The IT job market where I was and as it was, flooded with competent
people. Door after door slammed in my face. I started searching for
anything to make money. Line tech at a Jiffy Lube, Door to Door
salesman of replacement windows, Taco Bell manager. Jobs I was
overqualified for, and bruntly told so.

All told I was laid off for almost 9 months before I finally found
another job. Your cruel and callous statement only says to me that
you have no vision but where your head is firmly stuck and you have no
knowledge of the struggles of your fellow man around you just barely
able to make by. If finding another job is so simple, Sir, I challenge
you to call your boss this moment to resign and find another.

Call me in 9 months to let me know how you are doing.

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Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
 






Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth

John Berryman wrote:


	Thanks Marshall, its all becoming clear to me now. How did they change 
the product, or did they?


The M-1 Ext products increased the quantity of group V oil stock in the 
IV/V mix. It SHOULD be a better oil.


Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
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