[MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
I actually drove the thing today. Shifts real hard and with a jerk. I would envy that type of shift in my musclecar, but with this auto, it seems to indicate a problem? Or something not as it should be? I told him to check the fluid, and it was below the second mark. It took a couple seconds to drop into gear (both D and R) and this is what made me tell him to check the level. The rear windows act funny, sort of hesitating, and then catching up. He says it's no problem. By the way, it's an '82 I believe and he is asking $6500. I know - too much. Anyway, I don't think it's worth the risk to us. The wife expressed interest in it. Brian 83 240D _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline
diesels dont have a redline, they are governed and wont go over a
certain RPM, well, unless you have a serious problem, in that case a
redline on a tach is not going to help you anyways.
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Noticed today there is no redline on my tachometer -- just where is the
redline? Although I know transmission is not going to allow the engine to
continue to accelerate as it nears redline (I don't think) , but I'm curious
about where it is.
TIA --
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[MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Orange-1977-Mercedes-Benz-300D_W0QQitemZ4614098881QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Kinda low feedback, but hey it's it OK. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 00:19:32 2006 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.199]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FC4Ch-IC-Ti for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:19:32 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so1677380nzh for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:19:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R3GlNZQzJIpVvwiN4fiaDaEf5gnXJfb8UobiJMv+eGAYaGMI1dEOnXyRvkFGyve8ChWRiSkOUT8diiXYJ8SJVIa9OCcrqWDffyuazyWCM31yMSRBPFQ75IQ6sGl4NUiRh5tCbjytPXc2X6Rw2muUmXd1pcDYHWpcGPlSDvzRyV0Received: by 10.64.148.6 with SMTP id v6mr2164966qbd; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.137.17 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:19:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:19:30 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:19:32 - That IS my interior! On 2/22/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Orange-1977-Mercedes-Benz-300D_W0QQitemZ4614098881QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Kinda low feedback, but hey it's it OK. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline
diesels dont have a redline, they are governed and wont go over a certain RPM, well, unless you have a serious problem, in that case a redline on a tach is not going to help you anyways. They do have a 'redline', but for whatever reason MB doesn't mark it on the tach. I guess because the governor theoretically won't let you go there, but by downshifting stupidly, or being pushed down a steep grade by your trailer you can go over. The diesel in my pickup truck has a redline, at 2500 RPM. It also has a governor that cuts it off right there. I'm told that somewhere around 4k things start breaking, and no doubt there's weakening stress somewhat before that. (Don't even get me started on the time my wife downshifted from 5 to 2 on the freeway!) That's a lot of revs for a diesel, which still amazes me. OTOH, the gas Hercules in my generator, which bears a pretty strong resemblance to an OM352 or Cummins 6B, also has a top end around 2500 RPM. Seems to be size related, and most diesels that people have experience with are larger ones. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Droopy glove box door
Pull out the glove compartment box. It is held in with some plastic rivet-like things. Pull out the plug in the middle of each rivet first, then the plastic sleeve will also come out. Once you have them all out, remove the glove compartment light and pull the box. Disassembling the door is a bit more of a booger. You must remove the plastic inside liner, and it is held in place by some weird screw thingies. They are nuts with slotted heads, and they have the threaded bolt part coming up through the middle. I took a large flathead screwdriver and a cutoff disk, and cut a large notch in the screwdriver blade so I could loosen and tighten these. I disremember how the hinges come off the lid, but it will be evident, and straightforward, once you get the plastic inner cover off the lid. Or at least that is how it was with my wife's '80 300CD. Lee On Wednesday 22 February 2006 4:21, andrew strasfogel wrote: Not a trivial job for me, alas. I could use some explicit directions on disassembling the door and hinges. Any volunteers? On 2/22/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does someone have the fix for a tilted glove box door that flies open every time we drive over a bump - 1983 W123 300 TD? The left hinge appear to be bent... If you take it all apart you may be able to bend/repair whatever it is that is out of whack. Our 123's door was a mess when we got it, but it's a lot better now. It comes apart fairly easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] timing is EVERYTHING!
Where is the chain tensioner located? Is it on the driver's side of the Passenger side, I think. engine? Could this alone cause the engine not to start by throwing the timing off that much? How easily can the tensioner be replaced? I've never done it on a diesel, but did remove the one on my M130 in the 250C. (Seals were shot.) It unscrewed off the side of the block, once all the crap was out of the way. They're supposed to fill with oil so that they don't loosen, and are spring-loaded to take up slack. Its oil check valve is what gives it the one-way action. If that leaks, or its piston/bore clearance is shot, the tensioner will loosen up while off, and there's a nasty clatter after startup until it pumps up with oil again. That 'impending death rattle' is common on V8 gassers, and is your clue that it's time to address the chain and tensioner before it's too late. Part of installing a new one involves manually pumping it full of oil before you hit the starter. Loose chain == very bad! If the timing does jump, on a diesel I'd expect a forced introduction of pistons to valves. Though it is possible that only the injection pump could have jumped. Although I hear it'll run, poorly, no matter what the pump timing is. If you can get it started. You _really_ need to address that loose chain. The tensioner should probably be examined first. If you can get it to tighten the chain you can check the chain stretch (via timing marks) to see if it is shot. If the tensioner is all the way extended and it's still loose then it's a near-death chain, or there's a guide that's not working resulting in a too-short chain path. (Or some bozo put in an extra link!) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Housing costs
Brother in law bought his house 6 years ago in suburb of Boston for 275K. It is with in the known 100 mile each way commuting radius (one way) of the city , three bedroom ranch on an acre, 1970s neighborhood. Selling it for over 600K. 40 years ago Boston's housing dollar was about equal with Syracuse NY. What happened? New York's commuting radius that people drive is up to 150 miles one way. Two and a half hours each way at 2:00AM with no traffic. With traffic/bridge waits 3 to 5 hours each way. What will it be in 20 years? You have 100 million or so people with in a 1000 mile radius of NYC all looking for he same thing. 300 million people in the US and growing! Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Housing costs More a matter of their database not being updated for all homes sold in the recent past than gross errors. Seattle company, and I check sales on my properties v. valuations at present. The site is very close, but I feel optimistic. YMMV On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 06:41 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: My house was valued at 101K by the site...that's 10,000K more than the PO payed 6 years ago, but does not take into account the skyrocketing prices in my part of Kansas City. I paid $160,000 6 months ago and it was a good deal. It has my neighbors houses WAY too low too. If my house were 2 blocks East, it would be worth over $300,000 - GARUANTEED (or however you spell that word)...AMAZINGLY, the website does reflect the higher values of houses two blocks away into account...and is probably closer with those. That is impressive. But it is so far off on my block that one must conclude it is grossly inaccurate. If I offered my house for anywhere near what that site values it at, it would be sold within hours. Ditto for my neighbors. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with taxes and escrow and the like, it comes to over a grand a month. i consider that a lot of money. The new website www.zillow.com purports to give market prices for any house in the country by simply entering the address. The possible market values of houses in my neighborhood that I see every day is truly astonishing. Who knew? I've been looking up all my friend's homes just for fun. RLE/Seattle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Mogs
I've been looking at your Mog on your web site and noticed that you live in Spokane? That's where I was born raised (well, there and Missoula). My Mom still lives in Spokane and usually visit her once a year. What I can see of your land looks awesome. What part of Spokane do you live? I live Greenacres area, in the hills approaching Mica peak. Because it is so hilly, my natural inclination to have a tractor wasn't practical unless I got a newer 4WD version, and for that kind of money I could have a Mog instead! And so it was. out in the middle of the Mojave desert. I'm in the middle of my frame off restoration on a '66 404 hard cab with pritsche bed. Keeps me out of trouble (that and the Alfa, '68 Saab 96, etc.). Desert sounds like just the right area for a lengthy restoration. Can do most of it outside w/o rust issues. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '91 300D 2.5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - This is probably a dumb question -- is the 91 300D considered a W124 chassis? What is the engine and trans type numbers? Getting ready to order some filters and such - just want to make sure I do it right - Rusty's sale is happening at the right time! The seller says the oil was just changed and he's getting the records of what else was changed - Anyway - I appreciate the help -- The car is a 124.128. The engine is a 602.96 and the transmission is a 722.4 series. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] these people are on crack or something
who would take out a perfectly good 150k mile engine to install another unknown engine? Wierd http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-SD-M-B-300-SD-recent-engine-1982-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4615195472QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Green fuel pumps and nozzles
Marshall: Thanks for the email address for BP. Here's the email I just sent them. I trust you approve of my use of ALL CAPS for appropriate EMPHASIS: BP: Will you folks PLEASE adhere to the industry standard and use green-colored fuel nozzles ONLY for diesel fuel? A while ago I inadvertently put three gallons of gasoline in my diesel-powered Mercedes because it was dispensed by a green nozzle--a color used by every other fuel pump I've ever used only to dispense #2 diesel fuel. I was not pleased, and until you folks decide to join the rest of the fuel retailing world and use green pump nozzles only for diesel fuel, I'll be buying all my #2 elsewhere. Not only for my Mercedes, but for the 3 other diesel cars and the two semi tractors in my family's fleet. By the way, I don't own the semis, my brother does. He also owns one of the family's three diesel V-Dubs, and my stepson-in-law owns the other. But close enough for me! Dan -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k
Re: [MBZ] Droopy glove box door
Instead of cutting notches in screwdrivers, just use a pair of needlenose pliers (use the tips to lock into the slots of the nut) -Aaron
Re: [MBZ] Mogs
Hi Kelly, What part of the Mojave Desert? -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline
true there is no readline on the tach, but there are those handy little hashmarks on the speedo for downshifting purposes. Chris Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: diesels dont have a redline, they are governed and wont go over a certain RPM, well, unless you have a serious problem, in that case a redline on a tach is not going to help you anyways. They do have a 'redline', but for whatever reason MB doesn't mark it on the tach. I guess because the governor theoretically won't let you go there, but by downshifting stupidly, or being pushed down a steep grade by your trailer you can go over. The diesel in my pickup truck has a redline, at 2500 RPM. It also has a governor that cuts it off right there. I'm told that somewhere around 4k things start breaking, and no doubt there's weakening stress somewhat before that. (Don't even get me started on the time my wife downshifted from 5 to 2 on the freeway!) That's a lot of revs for a diesel, which still amazes me. OTOH, the gas Hercules in my generator, which bears a pretty strong resemblance to an OM352 or Cummins 6B, also has a top end around 2500 RPM. Seems to be size related, and most diesels that people have experience with are larger ones. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 01:45:14 2006 Received: from pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.70]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FC5XY-000830-NT for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:45:09 + Received: from user-10mt01r.cable.mindspring.com ([65.110.128.59] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FC5XW-00033m-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:45:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:45:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Housing costs X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:45:14 - On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 07:49 PM, Tom Scordato wrote: What will it be in 20 years? You have 100 million or so people with in a 1000 mile radius of NYC all looking for he same thing. 300 million people in the US and growing! Regards Tom Scordato More people will be working from home, look at the technology of today. Video conferencing is the next best thing to being there. Who knows where it will go. I believe that for many, their geographical location will have little to no effect on where their check comes from. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] diesel fuel and green nozzles
I realize that your corporate color is a very nice green, but I think you got a bit carried away whenever you decided to make the handles on ALL your pumps green. A green pump - in ANY other fueling station - is DIESEL FUEL. I own three diesels and I always have to take extra care while at a BP station...bordering on Obsesive Compulsive Disorder - to make sure that DIESEL is being pumped into my Mercedes. I know of people who failed to make that distinction at a BP station and put gasoline into their diesel car becuase of the green handle. GREEN=DIESEL when it comes to fueling stations. My wife also has a Mercedes diesel. I told her that diesel pumps are nearly always green, EXCEPT AT BP, SO DON'T GO THERE. I can't risk her making the mistake. PLEASE GET WITH THE PROGRAM. Thank You, Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 01:59:04 2006 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.193]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FC5l2-kB-Ne for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:59:04 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id h30so1173065wxd for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:59:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kVo5IdalQepluWlofqsH+tV1J6sc6uJ3DGE7CgmZK1Y0J/CaihrTwtwDRSh7DmHGUJdqP2jCJRlDD+JVjsY4pZJRZlOfKkVHf02CmX6Xi290rrXqYohxSDThjz+8DEj/K/lsmXhc87idtWgQ2KS9xnwRRIWgVC2t45kPNSdRFVE= Received: by 10.70.112.1 with SMTP id k1mr5774271wxc; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.122.17 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:58:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:58:56 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:59:05 - It's a Mercedes - it doesn't need no stinkin' RED line! On 2/22/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: true there is no readline on the tach, but there are those handy little h= ashmarks on the speedo for downshifting purposes. Chris Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: diesels dont have a redline, they = are governed and wont go over a certain RPM, well, unless you have a serious problem, in that case a redline on a tach is not going to help you anyways. They do have a 'redline', but for whatever reason MB doesn't mark it on the tach. I guess because the governor theoretically won't let you go there, but by downshifting stupidly, or being pushed down a steep grade by your trailer you can go over. The diesel in my pickup truck has a redline, at 2500 RPM. It also has a governor that cuts it off right there. I'm told that somewhere around 4k things start breaking, and no doubt there's weakening stress somewhat before that. (Don't even get me started on the time my wife downshifted from 5 to 2 on the freeway!) That's a lot of revs for a diesel, which still amazes me. OTOH, the gas Hercules in my generator, which bears a pretty strong resemblance to an OM352 or Cummins 6B, also has a top end around 2500 RPM. Seems to be size related, and most diesels that people have experience with are larger ones. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline
True - there is one in the 450SLC, at an absurdly low RPM. On 2/22/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Mercedes - it doesn't need no stinkin' RED line! Except that the gassers do have red marks on the tach. Go figure. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] couple 124 questions
Sunil Hari wrote: My 1992 300D needs some maintenance work. A few questions, if you don't mind. 1) When checking ATF level, the maintenance manual says to shift to P, run engine for 1 to 2 minutes, and check the fluid level. While checking, should the engine be running? I ask because there's another line that says, With the transmission at operating temperature, the oil level should be at the max mark. 2) Power steering fluid - to replace it, I know you suck out what you can out of the reservoir. How do you get the rest out? I tried to check skinnerbox, but the site is down. The car needs to be driven for 15-20 minutes before you take a reading to be sure the transmission fluid reaches 80 deg C (normal operating temp). At lower temps, the fluid will read low. At 20 deg C (68 F), the level will be 10-12 mm below the lower mark on the dipstick. It is not essential that the transmission be running at the moment you make the reading (unless the valve in the torque converter is leaking down rather quickly) but it needs to have been running very shortly before you make the reading to insure that the converter is filled and the fluid is at operating temperature. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline
Old spec was 5150rpm, +/- 150rpm, or 5000-5300. Later specs from the
WIS specify +/- 250rpm, which is a 4900-5400 range. Both are limited
by a setting inside the rear cover of the injection pump. I turned
mine up to about 5300-5400.
:-)
-Dave M.
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:23:14 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] RPM Redline
Noticed today there is no redline on my tachometer -- just where is the
redline? Although I know transmission is not going to allow the engine to
continue to accelerate as it nears redline (I don't think) , but I'm curious
about where it is.
TIA --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, '91 300D Turbo)
Re: [MBZ] W124 TD rear leveling AGAIN!
Jeff, The pump is rebuildable. If you need a rebuild, call Rusty with you VIN, and the manufacturer from the plate on the side of the pump, and Rusty will get a kit to you. Both of mine are Vickers, but 2 different kind of pumps. I would guess you could crack the high pressure line at the pump with the engine running to determine if the pump is pumping. I have never done this, but it seems like it should work. Loren At 04:43 PM 2/22/2006, you wrote: The arm to my valve is not loose but the arm itself can rotate freely once the rod is detached from it. It cacn go round and round with the engine running and there's no tension. Right now I'm suspecting the valve itself is toast. I'm hoping it's not the tandem pump! Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] W124 fire extinguisher part info
Hi all, I finally got my 1.0kg fire extinguisher installed on the diesel. The larger 1.3kg unit is no longer available, AFAIK. There is mucho confusion regarding some of the part numbers for the mounting buckets... I got most of it straightened out, but I still have a few nagging doubts on a couple things. Anyway, I uploaded photos of everything, with part numbers in the photos. Warning: If you buy a new 1.0kg unit (yes, they are available from Rusty or your local stealership), it may arrive uncharged... you need to get it charged at the airport, or fire department, or someplace that does that stuff. Anyway, here's the photos: http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_fire_ext/ The 1.0kg extinguisher is something like $100-$125 new (I got mine used), the bracket, bucket, and assorted hardware adds up to about another $50 or so. The early buckets with carpet for the older 1.3kg units are a LOT more expensive. Lucky for me, the previous owner of my E500 had purchased a used 1.3kg setup, which is also shown in the aforementioned photos. :-) Best regards, -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)
Re: [MBZ] Green fuel pumps and nozzles
I sent them MY suggestion with EMPHASIS in some places! THANKS for the email address! I do agree that Most cases are operator error and I can't blame them for that, but there was sort of a voluntary standard that green = diesel, and they violated that self-imposed standard. Voluntary standards are MUCH better than .gov imposed regs. They have confused the marketplace. Loren At 03:10 PM 2/22/2006, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Brake Fluid Flush
Larry - its ABS - and the main thing to remember when flushing the brake
fluid is to use enough pressure, probably around 20 psi. I was too
conservative at one of the GWS tech sessions several years ago, and managed
to drain the lines and leave lots of air in them. Learned that ABS systems
need to use more pressure! The M-B mechanic did a quick fix with me on the
pedal, but that procedure is not recommended, especially with older master
cylinders.
I'd recommend taking your time and doing one wheel first to get the
technique down correctly.
Werner
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Brake Fluid Flush
Howdy -
One of these days I plan to flush the brake fluid. Is there anything I
need
to know or do differently since the 300D has ASB - is that the right
initials? - anti-lock braking - anyway - I will be using a pressure
system
to bleed it -
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, '91 300D Turbo 2.5)
Re: [MBZ] Nozzle Change!!!!
Ya dang FURRNERS- - Ya got rong colors fer da DEIZEL nozzls.Plees fix em !!! At 05:37 PM 2/22/2006, you wrote: Yu FOREIGNERS- - Yu got rong colors for da DIESEL nozzles.Plees fix it !!!
Re: [MBZ] timing is EVERYTHING!
Tensioner is right ahead of the exhaust manifold. It comes out with 2 nuts removed. One (17) is half on the manifold and half on the tensioner. THe other (13 or 14) is on the tensioner. It is much easier to do if you take the 2 nuts off the thermostat housing and pull off the housing. You will need tensioner, Oring seal for tensioner, gasket for thermostat housing, short piece of hose between the thermo housing and water pump. It is an easy job as long as you don't twist off any of the studs in the head. You will be dealing with 2 studs for the tensioner and 2 for the thermo housing. The chain CAN'T jump the inj pump sprocket unless the capscrews on the hump of the injection timer housing on the block is removed. It could make the engine hard to start. If it turns over, the chain has not jumped the cam sprocket. If it jumped, you would have the pistons hitting the valves, and lots of noise, damage, jamming. It is much more likely that it has poor compression. How hard is it to turn the engine over by hand? If you can't feel compression, you've got none. Inj timing can be off a LOT and the engine will still run. Valve timing can be off some, and it will still start. Loren At 05:51 PM 2/22/2006, you wrote: Where is the chain tensioner located? Is it on the driver's side of the engine? Could this alone cause the engine not to start by throwing the timing off that much? How easily can the tensioner be replaced? TIA, Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Shoulda done that months ago
Curt - you're right, its been a long time since I fooled with a manual tranny. I would therefore assume that if your 240D calls for ATF, then by all means use Mobil1 - the cold and high temp characteristics alone are worth it! My comment that 4 cylinder engines should be easier to spin when cold than 5 cylinder engines was just based on the work that is being done on less parts. Maybe Marshall has some data that would give insight as to why the 240D needs more or less effort from the starter than the newer cars, such as the newer design of the glow system? And I agree that having more resistance in the battery cable connections is bad, and you should always try and keep corrosion out of them, and keep them clean and tight. But old cables don't have increased resistance due to age - the metallurgy of the copper doesn't change with age. Corrosion at the connections will increase the resistance, though, and that has to be addressed. In more than 50 years, I have never had to change a cable for being old, but I have had to repair corroded connections many times! You can check resistance of the cable/connector circuit with a voltmeter, measuring from the battery terminal to the starter, and battery to engine ground. I would be suspicious of a voltage drop under load of more than 1 Volt. Remember that there are hundreds of Amperes flowing in those cables when the starter is doing its thing. Werner - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shoulda done that months ago Hi Werner, Sounds like you haven't maintained a manual trans in awhile. My 240D and 190D both call for ATF, I'm just curious if anybody has acutally tried Mobil 1 ATF. I had an '88 GMC with a manual trans and it used ATF, my '84 Ford Tempo did too. Some of what you wrote confused me all my cars are 4cyl, 190D 2.2l and a 240D. I think that whatever it is that makes the 190D more efficient (other than not having 3 fat guys in the back seat) also makes it start better. I don't know if thats greater compression or better heat transferance from the glowplugs or whatever... The important thing here is that I think the battery cables haven't been changed in 20+ years and should at the very least be swapped out. I'm SURE they've gained in resistance. How much I dunno but I bet they've gained something and when its really cold (like -20F) and every amp counts I want it to be able to get there. -Curt
[MBZ] Lower control arm bushings
What is involved in replacing the lower control arm bushings (inner) on an 82 240D? Are special tools needed? Is this a job that can be done by someone with ordinary automotive skills like changing a water pump and master cylinder, or is this a job for a professional mechanic with special equipment? Thanks in advance. Jerry 82 240D 230,000 miles Just keeps going
[MBZ] Pack of $100 cars
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/135058698.html Guy has at least four cars, all diesel, all styles, and I think all he wants is $100 each. I have not called to verify. CD TD D -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] ED BOOHER WAKE UP!!!!
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/134409718.html $500 for a 250S -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Filter on my 91 300D Turbo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - Took a quick look at the engine a little while ago - the main fuel filter looks like a tight fit. Is it a PITA or easier than it looks? On several of my engines it's easiest to loosen the two screws that hold the filter bracket to the engine to allow the filter bracket to be lifted up and the filter to be extracted when the center screw is loosened. See: http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/Maintenance/MY81/0780.pdf Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] timing is EVERYTHING!
Call Rusty and get a new chain. With timing off by that much it would be a miracle if the thing ran. While you are in there, adjust the valves. On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 02:04 PM, kevin kraly wrote: Just as the subject line says, TIMING IS EVERYTHING! I took the valve cover off this little 220D today and checked things over. It appears that the TIMING is far from perfect right now. There are points in the engine revolution where the chain can be lifted away from the cam sprocket anywhere from 1/4 to about 1/2 of an inch. For some reason, this doesn't seem normal to me. I think that this engine is in need of a new chain. However, I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on this engine if it's warn out. Any suggestions on what I should do would be appreciated! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D project? Parts car? Junker? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Shoulda done that months ago
I am using M1 ATF in both Gump and Cleo. Shifting in both has improved after change over and love the feeling after 30k miles On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 02:27 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Hi Werner, Sounds like you haven't maintained a manual trans in awhile. My 240D and 190D both call for ATF, I'm just curious if anybody has acutally tried Mobil 1 ATF. I had an '88 GMC with a manual trans and it used ATF, my '84 Ford Tempo did too. Some of what you wrote confused me all my cars are 4cyl, 190D 2.2l and a 240D. I think that whatever it is that makes the 190D more efficient (other than not having 3 fat guys in the back seat) also makes it start better. I don't know if thats greater compression or better heat transferance from the glowplugs or whatever... The important thing here is that I think the battery cables haven't been changed in 20+ years and should at the very least be swapped out. I'm SURE they've gained in resistance. How much I dunno but I bet they've gained something and when its really cold (like -20F) and every amp counts I want it to be able to get there. -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:44:27 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shoulda done that months ago To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Curt - I suppose 15w50 is OK in warmer climates,and for worn engines, but I switched to 5W40 several years ago. My local Mobil distributor claims that Delvac1 only comes that way! I would think that the 240D would turn over better than the 300D, simply because there's one less cylinder to push. My experience with the 5 cylinder engines is mostly with the turbo version in the SDs (and of course the 602 engine in my '90D), but my daughter has a '77 300D - and none of us has had any problems with starting them here in the mid-Atlantic area, and without resorting to the block heater, too. But then again, we rarely see anything below +10F, either! Perhaps there's enough difference in the performance of the glow plugs in the 4 cylinder engines to require the extra effort? I have no concerns about putting in heavier cables for the starter system, but only say that my experience is that the OE set-up should be good enough, if its in good condition. As for ATF in manual transmissions, I haven't any info. In the old days, we usually used a gear oil (85W?), but I recall that in the 60s or 70s Detroit started to put thinner engine oils in manual transmissions, perhaps to get better fuel mileage?? I do also remember an incident in Alaska when a GI brought a 4 cylinder Scout up from the lower 48 in the summer, and by January the running engine couldn't make the rear wheels turn as the differential gear lube had turned solid. Had to warm it up in a garage, and carve it out with a putty knife. So a free-flowing lube certainly has its place, especially in cold climates! Werner - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Filter on my 91 300D Turbo
marshall, that file didn't attach properly. it -might- be because i don't own the cd's, thus they are not in the drive. But please help us who do not own the cd's On 2/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - Took a quick look at the engine a little while ago - the main fuel filter looks like a tight fit. Is it a PITA or easier than it looks? On several of my engines it's easiest to loosen the two screws that hold the filter bracket to the engine to allow the filter bracket to be lifted up and the filter to be extracted when the center screw is loosened. See: http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/Maintenance/MY81/0780.pdf Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] winter break cars
delete at will, I am only posting really interesting items this time http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/136137982.html -- 81 380sl $2200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/136103912.html -- 86 sel $1300 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/136046502.html -- 80 TD $800 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/135913988.html -- stoner http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/135727374.html -- 87 sel $1700 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/135649540.html -- 82 240d $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/135548628.html -- 77 240d $300 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/135270938.html -- 67 230 $700 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/134977374.html -- 62 180c $3800 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/134507787.html -- 83 TD $6k That is all I am going to say about that. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Filter on my 91 300D Turbo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Werner That's good to know about the pre-filters - actually, now that I think about it I believe the main fuel filter for the 240D and W124 300D is the same - sure looked the same. This is going to make keeping an inventory of parts around for both vehicles much easier! The main filter for 61x engines and 60x engines are different - they can NOT be interchanged. They look almost identical but the threads are a different size as I recall. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] winter break cars
Kaleb !!! This might be your 107 On 2/22/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: delete at will, I am only posting really interesting items this time http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/136137982.html -- 81 380sl $2200 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Filter on my 91 300D Turbo
Sunil Hari wrote: marshall, that file didn't attach properly. it -might- be because i don't own the cd's, thus they are not in the drive. But please help us who do not own the cd's If you can't reach THAT site, it's not my fault. I have NOTHING to do with it. It's just a picture of the filter bracket detached from the engine. Johnny Bs. suggestion to loosen the vacuum line works best on SOME 201s. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline
Ahhh, --- Anarchy !!! On 2/22/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they dont have a governor -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me
OK Don wrote: No whoosh, and no further incidents 600 miles later. The fuel filters will get replaced anyway. How much fuel was in the tank when the engine quit? If less than 1/4 tank, that further strengthens the plugged strainer/filter theory (thinks get touchy as the fuel level drops below 1/4). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Not getting messages
Mitch Haley wrote: http://www.pindelski.com/ The author is a graduate mechanical engineer and has been working on Mercedes cars for nearly 20 years. The author's lifetime mileage in Mercedes cars exceeds 250,000 miles. I've been working on 'em for more than 40 years, have more than 1,000,000 miles driving 'em and I'm FREE! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me
It was over half -- Tucumcari (last fill) to Albuquerque (where it died) 175 miles. I wondered about that also --- I was carrying a partial bottle of Power Service, and emptied it into the tank the next morning with a fill in Albuquerque. It's run just fine since then. How much fuel was in the tank when the engine quit? If less than 1/4 tank, that further strengthens the plugged strainer/filter theory (thinks get touchy as the fuel level drops below 1/4). Marshall -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] air filter on 92 300D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need that will tell me what I need to do as far as maintanence? How often for fuel filters, air filters, repack wheel bearings, and all the other things we need to do to keep our MB running in top form? If you use the same intervals that were used for your 123, you won't be far off!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Nozzle Change!!!!
Loren Faeth wrote: Ya dang FURRNERS- - Ya got rong colors fer da DEIZEL nozzls.Plees fix em !!! At 05:37 PM 2/22/2006, you wrote: Yu FOREIGNERS- - Yu got rong colors for da DIESEL nozzles.Plees fix it !!! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net There must be something wrong with me because I read the sign on the pump that says Diesel or regular etc..I NEVER look at pump handle colours! Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] W124 TD rear leveling AGAIN!
The only pump I see a rebuild kit for is the PS pump WITHOUT self levelling rear... Am I missing something?? Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] any thoughts on our new look?
Gary Hurst wrote: http://www.buymbparts.com/newdesign/index.html#http://www.buymbparts.com/newdesign/index.html I HATE it! It's different and I'll get used to it - I guess. It's MUCH classier and prettier ;-) but where is Rusty's picture? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] anybody feel stupid? (W140 diesel f/s needs engine work)
from: http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/134993520.html black on black 92 350SD (w140) with 3.5L turbodiesel. Needs engine work, clean title. $3850. Car is in Sacramento. See link for contact info. Looks like a good candidate for someone who wants one of these, and wants to buy a dead one so that they can put in the reman engine and have some piece of mind about it. K
[MBZ] Ph.D.s per capita [was Re: Housing costs]
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:34:59 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has the most PhDs per capita in the US, if not the UNIVERSE! Compared to Los Alamos? I REALLY doubt that. Craig
Re: [MBZ] daffy
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:29:26 -0700 Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha. Mer-say-des Close: Mayr-Tsay-days Craig
Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:27:25 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea I know about that one Rick Knoble wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Orange-1977-Mercedes-Benz-300D_W0QQitemZ4614098881QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And you won it, too. Are you going to part it out? Any chance for some dark blue or black sun visors? Craig
Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:26:06 -0700 Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Old spec was 5150rpm, +/- 150rpm, or 5000-5300. Later specs from the WIS specify +/- 250rpm, which is a 4900-5400 range. Both are limited by a setting inside the rear cover of the injection pump. I turned mine up to about 5300-5400. Do you have to remove the injection pump to do that? When I had my injection pump checked on a test stand in Albuquerque, the fellow apparently turned down the governor and now I can't make it to the ticks for each of the gears (especially frustrating for the big hill south of Santa Fe where I used to be able to go up at the speed limit of 75). Craig --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 221 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html
Re: [MBZ] Not getting messages
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:37:27 -0500 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: http://www.pindelski.com/ The author is a graduate mechanical engineer and has been working on Mercedes cars for nearly 20 years. The author's lifetime mileage in Mercedes cars exceeds 250,000 miles. I've been working on 'em for more than 40 years, have more than 1,000,000 miles driving 'em and I'm FREE! Thanks for all your help, Marshall. Craig
Re: [MBZ] W124 fire extinguisher part info
On Feb 22, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Dave M. wrote: http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_fire_ext/ The 1.0kg extinguisher is something like $100-$125 new (I got mine used), the bracket, bucket, and assorted hardware adds up to about another $50 or so. The early buckets with carpet for the older 1.3kg units are a LOT more expensive. Lucky for me, the previous owner of my E500 had purchased a used 1.3kg setup, which is also shown in the aforementioned photos. :-) Best regards, -- Dave M. Dave, In photo ext_1.0kg3.jpg , I see some particles in the rubber floor mat. It appears to be dirt or sand. are you feeling OK? From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 06:38:38 2006 Received: from pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.66]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCA7a-0001oL-8d for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 06:38:38 + Received: from user-10mt01r.cable.mindspring.com ([65.110.128.59] helo=[192.168.2.74]) by pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FCA7U-0002R3-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:38:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:38:31 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nozzle Change X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 06:38:38 - On Feb 22, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Jeff wrote: There must be something wrong with me because I read the sign on the pump that says Diesel or regular etc..I NEVER look at pump handle colours! Jeff Zedic I always look down to make sure I'm standing in a puddle of #2 and speedi-dri before I pull the trigger. I have seen green plastic covers on regular unleaded nozzles all over the country many different name brands. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 08:22:32 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCBk7-0001g0-O7 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:22:31 + Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[24.18.9.231]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id 20060223082228m13002f6oce; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:22:28 + Received: from grackle ([192.168.1.5]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1FCBk3-000JxW-7c for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:22:27 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:22:20 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] The Ten Commandments X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:22:32 - TEN COMMANDMENTS FOR DIESEL MAINTENANCE (from http://www.sdrm.org/roster/diesel/commandments.html) 1. Thou shalt keep thine engine clean and in adjustment that thy life in its company shall be long and that the owner shall increase thy pay. 2. Know thy engine and all its parts and functions, else thou shalt be in some unholy spot. 3. Be not wise in thine own conceit. Remember the factory instructions and keep them holy, lest repairs be thine undoing. 4. Be not loose in thy jaw hinges for no man
Re: [MBZ] ED BOOHER WAKE UP!!!!
Holy crap, I guess so! on my part. Just sent the seller an email. On 2/22/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/134409718.html $500 for a 250S -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] W124 TD rear leveling AGAIN!
Call Rusty! Yes, you are missing something! At 10:43 PM 2/22/2006, you wrote: The only pump I see a rebuild kit for is the PS pump WITHOUT self levelling rear... Am I missing something?? Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] anybody feel stupid? (W140 diesel f/s needs engine work)
WOW, that could be a decent deal, need to jew them down a bit though. Kevin wrote: from: http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/134993520.html black on black 92 350SD (w140) with 3.5L turbodiesel. Needs engine work, clean title. $3850. Car is in Sacramento. See link for contact info. Looks like a good candidate for someone who wants one of these, and wants to buy a dead one so that they can put in the reman engine and have some piece of mind about it. K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb
They will be white sun visors Im sure. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:27:25 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea I know about that one Rick Knoble wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Orange-1977-Mercedes-Benz-300D_W0QQitemZ4614098881QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And you won it, too. Are you going to part it out? Any chance for some dark blue or black sun visors? Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline
Craig, Depends on the engine. On a 603, you don't need to pull the pump. On a 602, I'm not sure... if there's enough room to remove the rear governor cover (six screws on the rectangular flat plate), you might be able to. Remember, the tranny may upshift prior to the tick marks on the speedo face. To see if you're getting to the proper governor speed, try leaving the gear shift in L and pinning the throttle... the engine should pull to approx 5100rpm (+/-) and stay there. If you're well under 5000, then you need to troubleshoot further... try the no-load test (floor it in park for a couple seconds and see if it goes to 5100), if not, you may have issues with air or fuel delivery... :) -dm -- Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:53:02 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] RPM Redline On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:26:06 -0700 Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Old spec was 5150rpm, +/- 150rpm, or 5000-5300. Later specs from the WIS specify +/- 250rpm, which is a 4900-5400 range. Both are limited by a setting inside the rear cover of the injection pump. I turned mine up to about 5300-5400. Do you have to remove the injection pump to do that? When I had my injection pump checked on a test stand in Albuquerque, the fellow apparently turned down the governor and now I can't make it to the ticks for each of the gears (especially frustrating for the big hill south of Santa Fe where I used to be able to go up at the speed limit of 75). Craig
Re: [MBZ] Ph.D.s per capita [was Re: Housing costs]
It was true at sometime, probably 1980 census data. I don't know or care if it is still true. If you want to do the research on the current title, go ahead. At 11:18 PM 2/22/2006, you wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:34:59 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has the most PhDs per capita in the US, if not the UNIVERSE! Compared to Los Alamos? I REALLY doubt that. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W124 fire extinguisher part info
Actually, Johnny, I *have* been a little under the weather the past week. Thanks for the concern, though! I'll scrub the floor mats and re-shoot the photo when I have a chance. ;-) BTW, in reply to another question, the fire extinguisher setups shown in my photos will fit in any Mercedes, not just the W124. The extinguisher buckets are the same for most all models, despite the 124- or 129- part number prefixes. The difference is just the metal bracket that bolts to the seat. You need different brackets for 123, 126, 140, etc seat frames. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:20:45 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 fire extinguisher part info On Feb 22, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Dave M. wrote: http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_fire_ext/ The 1.0kg extinguisher is something like $100-$125 new (I got mine used), the bracket, bucket, and assorted hardware adds up to about another $50 or so. The early buckets with carpet for the older 1.3kg units are a LOT more expensive. Lucky for me, the previous owner of my E500 had purchased a used 1.3kg setup, which is also shown in the aforementioned photos. Dave, In photo ext_1.0kg3.jpg , I see some particles in the rubber floor mat. It appears to be dirt or sand. Are you feeling OK?
[MBZ] Tulsa Opera
Would anyone like to attend the opera in Tulsa on Saturday evening? I will not be able to attend and have 2 tickets. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) alive and needing work '90 300E (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] Housing costs
These people need to get a life. My commute is about 5 minutes on a good day. I usually go home for lunch several times each week. If the hospital accross the street wasn't so tall, I could probably see my house from the window in the front of our building. If I could go overland straight through it wouldn't even take the 5 minutes. My wife works at our University of Manitoba and her commute is about the same as mine. We are within 4 or 5 houses of the edge of the University property but she works at the other end of it. If I wasn't lazy (and if I didn't like vehicles as much as I do) I could easily walk to work I suppose. One down side is that my vehicles don't get warmed up well on the short trip to work. With the diesel, I usually take a longer way around so that I don't have to shut if off before it comes up to temperature. That does not take long as I don't drive it in the winter. I don't worry quite as much about the gas engines. Randy B -Original Message- Brother in law bought his house 6 years ago in suburb of Boston for 275K. It is with in the known 100 mile each way commuting radius (one way) of the city , three bedroom ranch on an acre, 1970s neighborhood. Selling it for over 600K. 40 years ago Boston's housing dollar was about equal with Syracuse NY. What happened? New York's commuting radius that people drive is up to 150 miles one way. Two and a half hours each way at 2:00AM with no traffic. With traffic/bridge waits 3 to 5 hours each way. What will it be in 20 years? You have 100 million or so people with in a 1000 mile radius of NYC all looking for he same thing. 300 million people in the US and growing! Regards Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] Not getting messages
It just occured to me I've only been into Mercedes cars for about 4 years and I've gone maybe 60,000 miles. At the 40 year point I'll still have alot of catching up to do to get to Marshall but I'll be on par with Pindelski. I used to look at Pindelski's site. His pics are good IIRC he was a pro photographer at some point. His descriptions are decent although not super detailed. His opinions, well lets just say he's convinced he's right about stuff and if you disagree you're branded an idiot. Fer instance he hates synthetic oil. Can't understand why anybody would be interested in synthetic oils and is in general pretty insulting about anybody who would use synthetic oils. I definately get the feeling he doesn't put all that many miles on his car or has alot of extra time on his hands. I personally hate taking the time to change the oil... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:37:27 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not getting messages To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mitch Haley wrote: http://www.pindelski.com/ The author is a graduate mechanical engineer and has been working on Mercedes cars for nearly 20 years. The author's lifetime mileage in Mercedes cars exceeds 250,000 miles. I've been working on 'em for more than 40 years, have more than 1,000,000 miles driving 'em and I'm FREE! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 16:58:19 2006 Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCJnH-cE-LI for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:58:19 + DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=toQbcmt0a88WFtypRfdiq3X1Uymdl8krECjJSv8INs4uptoYAJEICbKLJDc3Gp4p; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.110.128.59] (helo=[192.168.2.74]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FCJnF-0004Vi-M3 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:58:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:58:16 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-ELNK-Trace: b3baf86f04a51c2f0f36c4a2948c83129ef193a6bfc3dd4882992c36badd20dfa40c2cf8c70b650faf78f7fbf31ba7be350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.110.128.59 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 fire extinguisher part info X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:58:20 - On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Dave M. wrote: Actually, Johnny, I *have* been a little under the weather the past week. Thanks for the concern, though! I'll scrub the floor mats and re-shoot the photo when I have a chance. ;-) You always keep your cars so clean. You know I couldn't resist that one. I try to keep a clean car, not that easy when I'm busy driving them as much as I do. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] anybody feel stupid? (W140 diesel f/s needs engine work)
Kaleb, the spokesman for political correctness -- next gig is a show on Air America! --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: WOW, that could be a decent deal, need to jew them down a bit though. Kevin wrote: from: http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/134993520.html black on black 92 350SD (w140) with 3.5L turbodiesel. Needs engine work, clean title. $3850. Car is in Sacramento. See link for contact info. Looks like a good candidate for someone who wants one of these, and wants to buy a dead one so that they can put in the reman engine and have some piece of mind about it. K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] anybody feel stupid? (W140 diesel f/s needs engine work)
AIR AMERICA I THINK NOT! Maybe LT Don. Rich Thomas wrote: Kaleb, the spokesman for political correctness -- next gig is a show on Air America! --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: WOW, that could be a decent deal, need to jew them down a bit though. Kevin wrote: from: http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/134993520.html black on black 92 350SD (w140) with 3.5L turbodiesel. Needs engine work, clean title. $3850. Car is in Sacramento. See link for contact info. Looks like a good candidate for someone who wants one of these, and wants to buy a dead one so that they can put in the reman engine and have some piece of mind about it. K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Kevin? you need this: W115 W114
Hello, catfish has just posted in the W115 W114 forum of Mercedes-Benz Club of America Forums under the title of '72 220D parts car near portland, or. This thread is located at http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?threadid=11360 Here is the message that has just been posted: *** i got a kick out of this add for a 220D. i bet he'll let you take it for free if you haul it out of there. http://portland.craigslist.org/car/135090991.html *** -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Mats, Mirror Owners Manual for my 91 300D
Thanks!
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mats, Mirror Owners Manual for my 91 300D
Somewhat similar.
1. Pop off the plastic trim ring that surrounds the shifter
2. Open sliding wood console box, remove two screws at front, and remove
box.
3. If you don't have the box, peel back the carpet to reveal the single
screw on a plastic tab
4. Lift wood upward carefully, starting at the rear.
On 2/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks again for the warning Aaron - next question - does the panel lift
up
similar to the W123 cars? i.e., remove a couple of screws from below the
ashtray and lift up to expose the underside of the switch?
Got the replacement from Rusty and I'd like to install it later today --
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Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
You're Superman in my book if you have 30 yrs. as a professional mechanic. On 2/22/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 06:27 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: No way this is a 30 minute job, even with 2 people. I'm not Superman or anything but I have more than 30 years behind me as a professional mechanic. Take as long as you want, its your time. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
Jerky transmission could be any number of vacuum or transmission related issues that requires a GOOD and EXPERIENCED Mercedes diesel mechanic to sort out. The rear windows symptoms ARE a problem and a major PIA to fix, though not beyond the ability of most DIYers. That being said, if the vehicle is clean, has service records, and is a nice color combo that appeals to you, try and negotiate a realistic price and take it in for a prepurchase inspection. Use the results to bargain down further on the price. On 2/22/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually drove the thing today. Shifts real hard and with a jerk. I would envy that type of shift in my musclecar, but with this auto, it seems to indicate a problem? Or something not as it should be? I told him to check the fluid, and it was below the second mark. It took a couple seconds to drop into gear (both D and R) and this is what made me tell him to check the level. The rear windows act funny, sort of hesitating, and then catching up. He says it's no problem. By the way, it's an '82 I believe and he is asking $6500. I know - too much. Anyway, I don't think it's worth the risk to us. The wife expressed interest in it. Brian 83 240D _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] anybody feel stupid? (W140 diesel f/s needs engine work)
Wow, talk about sensitive. Let me suggest this sort of thing be saved for BANNED where it might go somewhat un-noticed given all of the other stuff. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody feel stupid? (W140 diesel f/s needs engine work) WOW, that could be a decent deal, need to jew them down a bit though.
Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
See, there are polite ways to say the same sort of thing. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale That being said, if the vehicle is clean, has service records, and is a nice color combo that appeals to you, try and negotiate a realistic price and take it in for a prepurchase inspection. Use the results to bargain down further on the price.
Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
It's spotted? Like an owl? On 2/22/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually drove the thing today. Shifts real hard and with a jerk. I would envy that type of shift in my musclecar, but with this auto, it seems to indicate a problem? Or something not as it should be? I told him to check the fluid, and it was below the second mark. It took a couple seconds to drop into gear (both D and R) and this is what made me tell him to check the level. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb
WTF: We redid the fuel pump, rebuilt cylinder head, and had the engine vatted Vatted? On 2/23/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They will be white sun visors Im sure. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:27:25 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea I know about that one Rick Knoble wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Orange-1977-Mercedes-Benz-300D_W0QQitemZ4614098881QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And you won it, too. Are you going to part it out? Any chance for some dark blue or black sun visors? Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Ph.D.s per capita [was Re: Housing costs]
Lost track of WHERE all this discussion applies . On 2/23/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was true at sometime, probably 1980 census data. I don't know or care if it is still true. If you want to do the research on the current title, go ahead. At 11:18 PM 2/22/2006, you wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:34:59 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has the most PhDs per capita in the US, if not the UNIVERSE! Compared to Los Alamos? I REALLY doubt that. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tulsa Opera
What's playing? Who's singing? On 2/23/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone like to attend the opera in Tulsa on Saturday evening? I will not be able to attend and have 2 tickets. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) alive and needing work '90 300E (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Kevin? you need this: W115 W114
I did spot this one on CL when it was posted on Saturday. I'm planning to wait it out until the guy realizes that $300 is WY too much for that car. There wouldn't be a part of that car other than the engine that isn't either waterlogged, pitted or rusted to pieces by now with all of the glass being broken out of it. I would like to haul it out of there once he reaches the desperation stage and offers it for free. Maybe, I oughta just offer to haul it away and see if he bites.
Re: [MBZ] Housing costs
Randy, is that St. Boniface Hospital by any chance? On 2/23/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These people need to get a life. My commute is about 5 minutes on a good day. I usually go home for lunch several times each week. If the hospital accross the street wasn't so tall, I could probably see my house from the window in the front of our building. If I could go overland straight through it wouldn't even take the 5 minutes. My wife works at our University of Manitoba and her commute is about the same as mine. We are within 4 or 5 houses of the edge of the University property but she works at the other end of it. If I wasn't lazy (and if I didn't like vehicles as much as I do) I could easily walk to work I suppose. One down side is that my vehicles don't get warmed up well on the short trip to work. With the diesel, I usually take a longer way around so that I don't have to shut if off before it comes up to temperature. That does not take long as I don't drive it in the winter. I don't worry quite as much about the gas engines. Randy B -Original Message- Brother in law bought his house 6 years ago in suburb of Boston for 275K. It is with in the known 100 mile each way commuting radius (one way) of the city , three bedroom ranch on an acre, 1970s neighborhood. Selling it for over 600K. 40 years ago Boston's housing dollar was about equal with Syracuse NY. What happened? New York's commuting radius that people drive is up to 150 miles one way. Two and a half hours each way at 2:00AM with no traffic. With traffic/bridge waits 3 to 5 hours each way. What will it be in 20 years? You have 100 million or so people with in a 1000 mile radius of NYC all looking for he same thing. 300 million people in the US and growing! Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb
Andrew, I don't know if vatted is a word or not but it means the engine block was dipped in a vat of strong cleaners that should clean all ports, passages, etc. including oil galleries and water jackets. Terry Geiger http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org '74 Triumph TR6 * '63 Triumph Herald * '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb WTF: We redid the fuel pump, rebuilt cylinder head, and had the engine vatted Vatted?
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
On Feb 23, 2006, at 3:21 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: You're Superman in my book if you have 30 yrs. as a professional mechanic. Aw gee! (blushing) Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] VeeDub In Da House
These are a riot. Too bad they're in Flash format so I can't download save them. http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/02/22/vw-strikes-again-un-pimp-my-ride-videos/ http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/02/17/videos-volkswagens-bizarre-gti-fast-commercials/ http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-video/Media/video/2005/01/27/golfgti.mov =) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)
Re: [MBZ] Housing costs
No, Victoria General Hospital. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Housing costs Randy, is that St. Boniface Hospital by any chance? On 2/23/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These people need to get a life. My commute is about 5 minutes on a good day. I usually go home for lunch several times each week. If the hospital accross the street wasn't so tall, I could probably see my house from the window in the front of our building. If I could go overland straight through it wouldn't even take the 5 minutes. My wife works at our University of Manitoba and her commute is about the same as mine. We are within 4 or 5 houses of the edge of the University property but she works at the other end of it. If I wasn't lazy (and if I didn't like vehicles as much as I do) I could easily walk to work I suppose. One down side is that my vehicles don't get warmed up well on the short trip to work. With the diesel, I usually take a longer way around so that I don't have to shut if off before it comes up to temperature. That does not take long as I don't drive it in the winter. I don't worry quite as much about the gas engines. Randy B -Original Message- Brother in law bought his house 6 years ago in suburb of Boston for 275K. It is with in the known 100 mile each way commuting radius (one way) of the city , three bedroom ranch on an acre, 1970s neighborhood. Selling it for over 600K. 40 years ago Boston's housing dollar was about equal with Syracuse NY. What happened? New York's commuting radius that people drive is up to 150 miles one way. Two and a half hours each way at 2:00AM with no traffic. With traffic/bridge waits 3 to 5 hours each way. What will it be in 20 years? You have 100 million or so people with in a 1000 mile radius of NYC all looking for he same thing. 300 million people in the US and growing! Regards Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] anybody feel stupid? (W140 diesel f/s needs engine work)
Actually, I'm somewhat surprised it didn't at least raise ONE of spud's eyebrows. he has family in the sac area, and has said before the only way he'd get into a 140 is if he found a well cared for one that the rods bent on it. K On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 09:46:52AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: WOW, that could be a decent deal, need to *** them down a bit though. Kevin wrote: from: http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/134993520.html black on black 92 350SD (w140) with 3.5L turbodiesel. Needs engine work, clean title. $3850. Car is in Sacramento. See link for contact info. Looks like a good candidate for someone who wants one of these, and wants to buy a dead one so that they can put in the reman engine and have some piece of mind about it.
Re: [MBZ] anybody feel stupid?
Yeah, I got an eyebrow and a half up on this one. If I was semi-seriously in the market for a 140, I'd definitely look into it harder. I wonder what engine work it needs (although I'd assume a short block is in order.) Bummer there's not more photos. =) +dm -- Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:18:04 -0800 From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody feel stupid? (W140 diesel f/s needs engine work) Actually, I'm somewhat surprised it didn't at least raise ONE of spud's eyebrows. he has family in the sac area, and has said before the only way he'd get into a 140 is if he found a well cared for one that the rods bent on it. K Kevin wrote: from: http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/134993520.html black on black 92 350SD (w140) with 3.5L turbodiesel. Needs engine work, clean title. $3850. Car is in Sacramento. See link for contact info. Looks like a good candidate for someone who wants one of these, and wants to buy a dead one so that they can put in the reman engine and have some piece of mind about it.
[MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level
Hello all -
Well, I changed my oil - used the topsider to suck it all out and also
changed the fuel prefilter. It runs better already - but that's probably my
imagination since I'm a big fan of the Mobil 1 I put in. ;-)
Now, my question - did I read that it;s best to keep the oil level at
between the upper lower marks instead of at the top mark? Now, I have
mine about 3/4 of the way up, between the upper and lower marks.
Sound OK -
Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can
look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can look -
is there any other way to tell the difference?
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Brake Fluid Flush
Thanks Werner -
I'll take your suggestion and practice on only one wheel -
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Fluid Flush
Larry - its ABS - and the main thing to remember when flushing the brake
fluid is to use enough pressure, probably around 20 psi. I was too
conservative at one of the GWS tech sessions several years ago, and
managed
to drain the lines and leave lots of air in them. Learned that ABS
systems
need to use more pressure! The M-B mechanic did a quick fix with me on
the
pedal, but that procedure is not recommended, especially with older master
cylinders.
I'd recommend taking your time and doing one wheel first to get the
technique down correctly.
Werner
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Brake Fluid Flush
Howdy -
One of these days I plan to flush the brake fluid. Is there anything I
need
to know or do differently since the 300D has ASB - is that the right
initials? - anti-lock braking - anyway - I will be using a pressure
system
to bleed it -
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, '91 300D Turbo 2.5)
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
--- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The quantity of ATF for a 722.4 transmission if you drain the converter is 6 liters (6.35 qt). Not having access to trustworthy jack stands and having never seen an engine turned manually, I'm trying to talk myself into changing the ATF without draining the converter. Would that be a bad thing? David 83 300DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
On Feb 23, 2006, at 4:54 PM, David Johnson wrote: Not having access to trustworthy jack stands and having never seen an engine turned manually, I'm trying to talk myself into changing the ATF without draining the converter. Would that be a bad thing? David 83 300DT Have it done at a shop it'll be cheaper than hospital or funeral bills. There's more fluid in the convertor than in the pan. Its a simple process, some Jiffy-Lube guys could probably do it without screwing anything up. I would avoid tranny shops and trans fluid flushes like the plague. Local gas station/service station is probably a good choice too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Tulsa Opera
What's the opera? (crossing fingers that it's Die Fledermaus or anything Wagner) Chris Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone like to attend the opera in Tulsa on Saturday evening? I will not be able to attend and have 2 tickets. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) alive and needing work '90 300E (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 22:17:33 2006 Received: from smtp1hou.williams.com ([151.142.221.60] helo=smtp2.williams.com) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCOmD-0008Gw-Kf for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:17:33 + Received: from unknown (HELO wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM) ([172.31.6.11]) by smtp2.williams.com with ESMTP; 23 Feb 2006 16:17:30 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i=4.02,141,1139205600; d=scan'208; a=34502433:sNHT39481404 Received: from wmshoumb01.WILLIAMS.COM ([172.31.41.244]) by wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:17:49 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:17:49 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions Thread-Index: AcY4xdKXnurBRwCAQ16CXHOfIIClFgAAPgjg From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2006 22:17:49.0277 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB05A8D0:01C638C6] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:17:33 - I would keep an eye on them while they did it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Berryman Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions ... some Jiffy-Lube guys could probably do it without =20 screwing anything up. I would avoid tranny shops and trans fluid flushes like the plague. =20 Local gas station/service station is probably a good choice too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb
Yes, I've heard the term hot tanked used to describe the same process. Vatted may be a term confined to the southern states. Terry Geiger http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org '74 Triumph TR6 * '63 Triumph Herald * '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb In North America, we would ususally say hot tanked. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Geiger Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb Andrew, I don't know if vatted is a word or not but it means the engine block was dipped in a vat of strong cleaners that should clean all ports, passages, etc. including oil galleries and water jackets. Terry Geiger http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org '74 Triumph TR6 * '63 Triumph Herald * '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb WTF: We redid the fuel pump, rebuilt cylinder head, and had the engine vatted Vatted? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
John Berryman wrote: Have it done at a shop it'll be cheaper than hospital or funeral bills. There's more fluid in the convertor than in the pan. Its a simple process, some Jiffy-Lube guys could probably do it without screwing anything up. Good luck. Everyone seems to be afraid of these cars. It seems like when I called around to anywhere but a Mercedes specialist asking about a transmission service or even a V-belt change, they said we don't do that on those cars.
Re: [MBZ] Help - What did I do?
John Berryman wrote: Its not necessary to cool the turbo down under normal circumstances. EGTs are not that high unless your pump/turbo were seriously tweaked. I live at the top of a steep 1 mile pull. I keep the hammer down all the way up in 3rd gear then shut it down as soon as its in park. 100s of 1,000s of miles on turbodiesels and never had a problem. Ma Benz wouldn't expect people to sit around waiting for their turbos to cool down on these Battle Taxis anyway. Burnt oil can coke on turbo bushings causing a seizure but that requires much more heat than can be generated by these engines under normal circumstances. Of course synthetic oil will stand up to more heat than conventional oils. A 935 it will never be. What Johnny B. said! Just a few moments at less than full power will more than sufficiently cool a Mercedes diesel turbo providing you haven't altered factory settings by very much! Using a group IV/V synthetic oil (Mobil 1 or similar) improves things even further. Mercedes has designed the system so you can't destroy it unless you REALLY work at it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb
I am parting out the 1981 300SEL 126 Chassis with dark blue interior. Engine is fried and doors have rust. Any body need inside or outside parts? Mike in Michigan Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jump on this one quick Kaleb They will be white sun visors Im sure. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:27:25 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea I know about that one Rick Knoble wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Orange-1977-Mercedes-Benz-300D_W0QQitemZ4614098881QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And you won it, too. Are you going to part it out? Any chance for some dark blue or black sun visors? Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] main fuel filter question
OK Don wrote: Is this a case where cracking the lines at the injectors would let the fuel flow faster - prime faster, therefore start faster? Won't make a difference. If you loosened all of the glow plugs so the engine cranked REALLY fast, that would speed up the priming, but that's NOT really practical. Just run the engine to be sure the injection pump reservoir is full, then shut down pull the old filter and FILL the new filter. Then the engine will usually start quite quickly and while it may stumble a bit, it usually won't shut down if you hold the pedal down a bit. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] main fuel filter question
Mitch Haley wrote: John Berryman wrote: Might take more cranking but it will eventually start. It is best to load the filter though. That's the funny thing. When I did it with the SD, it fired immediately, then soon stumbled. I gave it throttle, and kept the revs up until the stumbling quit. It all took 30 seconds or less, not counting glow time. You started the engine on the fuel in the injection pump reservoir. The pump is pulling fuel into the empty main filter. That will result in engine stalling or at least rough running (if you hold the accelerator down). The duration of that running rough can be reduced by filling the new filter with clean diesel or Diesel Purge (or even ATF). OM61x engines are more troublesome than OM60x engines (unless you use the hand pump on the OM61x engine). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level
Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can look - is there any other way to tell the difference? Stab a lit cigarette into it and see if it smells like burnt hair, or like burnt plastic. You're welcome! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level
Stab a lit cigarette into it and see if it smells like burnt hair, or like burnt plastic. You're welcome! And for whatever reason, the PO of our 190D felt compelled to repeat this test several times. Must have had a bad memory. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level
Guess Marshall WILL answer the oil level question, me I try to keep it
somewhere in the range.
Far as tex and cow hide goes, I should think you could give it a sniff test?
Also I have found that tex has a factory (perfect look) whereas leather has
a more natural look about it.
Hendrik
sticks and stones may break my bones but leather, whips and chains excite me
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:08 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level
Now, my question - did I read that it;s best to keep the oil level at
between the upper lower marks instead of at the top mark? Now, I have
mine about 3/4 of the way up, between the upper and lower marks.
Sound OK -
Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can
look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can
look -
is there any other way to tell the difference?
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Re: [MBZ] Oil CHange
Donald Snook wrote: Peter wrote: Most parts stores that carry Wix filters will have the oil filter (and Wix is very good). Probably 8 quarts if the 603 engine is a guide, at least 6 anyway. I suggest that no more than 7 qt be installed in a 602.96 engine. That will result in the level being about half way between the ADD and MAX marks (when the oil FINALLY reaches the sump - which may take 6-8 hours). That's what I fill into my 602.96 (I use about 7.5 qt in my 603.96 engine). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Oil CHange
Sunil Hari wrote: but do you have to change the filter before 10Kmi? Why would you do that (unless you are driving in subzero weather or in a VERY dusty environment)? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level
Larry -
Yes, the proper level for the oil is below the max mark, probably about 1/2
to 3/4 way between the top and bottom marks. Take Marshall's advice,
though, and look at the level after the car engine has been off for several
hours - the Mobil1 does stick to internal engine parts, and does take some
time to flow to the sump!
As for tex vs. leather, a clue is found in the code for the interior -
usually, a 1xx number is MB-tex, and a 2xx number is leather. You can check
out all the codes in the build sheet (available from MBUSA or the dealer, if
it isn't with the car documents), and also should be on the metal plate in
front of the radiator (at least the exterior color is embossed there). The
codes were listed sometime back by Dan Landiss, and I think I can find the
link if you don't have it.
Werner
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Subject: [MBZ] Leather Vs MB-Tex and Proper Oil Level
Hello all -
Well, I changed my oil - used the topsider to suck it all out and also
changed the fuel prefilter. It runs better already - but that's probably
my
imagination since I'm a big fan of the Mobil 1 I put in. ;-)
Now, my question - did I read that it;s best to keep the oil level at
between the upper lower marks instead of at the top mark? Now, I have
mine about 3/4 of the way up, between the upper and lower marks.
Sound OK -
Next, I know how to tell the difference between Tex and Leather if I can
look under the material - so far I haven't found a place where I can
look -
is there any other way to tell the difference?
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
I have yet to do the MB but it is not normally a difficult job to do. I have done this sort of thing on lots of other vehicles. Not a whole lot harder than changing the oil in the engine. Messy in most cases but that is normal when one crawls around under a vehicle. Be prepared to spill some and if you need to keep the drive or floor or whatever you are parked on clean, the take some precautions with cardboard or the like to prevent a major cleanup afterwards. If you have a place to work then get yourself a set of good quality ramps and have at it. It is not brain surgery. One loosens bolts and removes them and then later re-installs them with some new gaskets etc and then re-tightens them. If one is afraid that one does not have the touch, then one uses a torque wrench etc. The worst thing that can go wrong is that one buggers something up and has to buy a new part etc. It is a learning experience and gets easier with time. For an example, I offer the following. When I first got my 1986 Chevy Suburban (back in 1991) I was intimidated by it. I had not owned anything with a V8 engine since a 1968 Cougar that I traded away in 1973. Most of my vehicles in between were either new and didn't need anything much or were older and very simple like my 1968 Chevy pickup with a 292 inline 6. None of them had as much plumbing as that thing had under the hood. I changed a fuel filter in the carb and was literally afraid I would not get it back together again. Within a few months I was much mor comfortable with it. I changed the valve seals and so I had the valve covers off and all of the junk in the way had to be moved or removed. I later wondered why I had been so intimidated by it at the outset. I'm sort of in the same boat with the MB. I bought it in July 2005 and drove it a bit but really didn't do much apart from change the oil twice. This spring I am going to get into it and check the compression, check for chain stretch etc. I have had it long enough to feel more comfortable with it and have read the posts on this forum and a couple of others long enough to be satisfied that there shouldn't be anything too unusual about it. My car is simple compared to most of the ones that you folks talk about. I don't have to worry about the self levelling suspension or the turbo etc. The worst thing I have to decide is whether to tackle the front seats or hire someone else to do it. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions John Berryman wrote: Have it done at a shop it'll be cheaper than hospital or funeral bills. There's more fluid in the convertor than in the pan. Its a simple process, some Jiffy-Lube guys could probably do it without screwing anything up. Good luck. Everyone seems to be afraid of these cars. It seems like when I called around to anywhere but a Mercedes specialist asking about a transmission service or even a V-belt change, they said we don't do that on those cars. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Yes it would be a bad thing. What about your filter? It is a dirty job but very important. Go to a Benz specialist and get it done properly, I would not trust some idiot to do this; or get the equipment and learn to do it. It is not a hard job, just one where cleanliness (and some experience) is very important. The problem with letting some teenager to do this is that if not torqued up right you will have fluid leakage. It is usally advisable to put a new gasket in while you are changing the fluid/filter. Hendrik with near fresh fluid and filter in the box and no drips due to new gasket and proper (well very close to) installation - Original Message - From: David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The quantity of ATF for a 722.4 transmission if you drain the converter is 6 liters (6.35 qt). Not having access to trustworthy jack stands and having never seen an engine turned manually, I'm trying to talk myself into changing the ATF without draining the converter. Would that be a bad thing? David 83 300DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006
