Re: [MBZ] vista
my 286 was 640k for same reason. hard drive was 20 meg On 7/17/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Processor board doesn't "see" the rest of the ram. Note that Apple > officially only supports 192 MB on the Wallstreet, but if you stick in > two 256MB DIMMS, you get 512MB that works most of the time (depending > on DIMMS, etc). I suspect you would only get 512MB on the Lombard if > you put two 512MB DIMMS in. Might get 1 G, might crash. > > Remember, all this stuff was new back then, and expensive -- I believe > the Wallstreet shgipped with a 4 GB hard drive and 64 MB of ram, and > was the king of the laptops for a few months. > > Gee, I remember using a 286 with 512k of RAM because I couldn't find > the $200 for the rest of the 1MB the motherboard would hold! > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans resurrection
Would be the only way one of those young kids could do it, since Gump has no little computer port to plug his toy laptop into. Even the E300D only spits out five error codes and that has them all scratching their heads as to what they could mean. On Jul 17, 2007, at 9:42 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: > tools? You mean the lap top with the fancy software which will tell > the tech > to replace the gearbox with a new one. > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans resurrection > > > > Well, how about if a trained MB tech came over with his tools while > you > lounged nearby, sipping a forty. > > RLE -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans resurrection
Oh Roger, how nice of you to offer. I will make sure I have a cold frosty mug for when you are thirsty. Might even pop a few of my own brewed to quench your thirst. That is if you are also willing to train me on proper interior and exterior care of Gump. Would be great to have her as pretty as your car at the Show and Shine in August. clay On Jul 17, 2007, at 9:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> <> up shift >> issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of the >> lists >> resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and provide >> resources would >> be most welcome.>> >> > Well, how about if a trained MB tech came over with his tools while > you > lounged nearby, sipping a forty. > > RLE > > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On topic: Clay's Shifter [was: Re: Way too much OT?]
Craig is my new hero, I am printing everything out and will have it as reference matter while I cuss at the underside of Gump. clay On Jul 17, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:24:16 -0700 Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up >> shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of >> the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and >> provide resources would be most welcome. > > If I were closer, I would have been over already. > > That said, I think you already have all the advice you need. > > Get under there, remove the linkages from the transmission, and > move the > levers. Tell us what happens when you do that. > > For a reprise: > > - put the two forward gear shift levers in their middle positions, > > - try the reverse shift lever in its two positions. > > You have neutral when you can turn the driveshaft with the clutch > pedal > not depressed. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] shift linkage
Right now I am counting the cash from selling car parts so that I can afford to have her towed to a shop. Actually, I am getting tools together to go to PnP in hopes of securing a few "spare" parts so that I can have them should I fail in getting the parts already on to stay unbusted. 220D manual with new bushings on the trans side of the shafts. I looked at the CD manual and no luck there, Chilton crap manual is even worse, so I am thumbing through the shop manuals to see what I have to do. Been having some morning rain, and the new creeper is MIA. The old creeper is KIA and gone. Getting my ducks lined up this time instead of forging ahead and busting it more. All came about with removing the arms from the shafts to insert new bushings. Mounted back in same place as I had marked prior to removal, but shafts got moved some way and at the shift knob H was half way back from center, but could wrestle it into gear. Next morning after some reading I got back under and removed arms from splined shaft on transmission and repositioned, and probably even more screwed up the shift knob positioning. Could not get into gear anymore at all, so went back under, held the knob end of the shafts at the Neutral position while reseating the arms on the splined shaft on the trans. All this with the car up in the air on ramps and jack stands so rear wheels would be able to spin. Started engine and released clutch, but the engine would die, as it seemed to engage the locked transmission. The drive shaft would not spin, but the rear wheels were free wheeling. Was able to get them to move under power when I rode the clutch and revved the engine. On Jul 17, 2007, at 8:40 PM, E M wrote: > Are you working with a manual? there must be some steps in the > shop book > telling you how to set that thing up. What was the problem again, > not going > into gear due to alignment or something? I seem to recall watching > one of > those weekend shows on hotrods saying how you put an auto trans into a > certain gear, and then made the various adjustments. I have a feeling > you're pretty close to getting it sorted out and just missing one > or two > small steps. Maybe refresh our memories as to where you are with it?? > > Ed > 300E > > On 17/07/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up >> shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of >> the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and >> provide resources would be most welcome. >> >> clay >> >> On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:57 PM, R A Bennell wrote: >> >>> I think what happens is that when the list is slow, we make up >>> other things to post about. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dwight E. >>> Giles, Jr >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:40 PM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? >>> >>> >>> Walt, >>> I have thought that lately, too. I was away for 4 days and had 400 >>> messages >>> form list this AM-Must have been over half OT as I worked the >>> delete key. >>> IMHO >>> >>> Dwight E. Giles, Jr. >>> 1979 240D-250K + miles >>> 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles >>> Wickford, RI >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Walt Lasher >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:17 PM >>> To: Mercedes List >>> Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? >>> >>> Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic >> material >>> here on the list? >>> Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? >>> >>> Walt Lasher >>> W140 S350 >>> Seattle >>> -- next part -- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: winmail.dat >>> Type: application/ms-tnef >>> Size: 2932 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> Url : >>> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/ >>> 20070717/23e >>> d5dcc/attachment.bin >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options g
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
Well, you can overdo it, especially chicken poop -- too much nitrogen burns the roots off the tomato plant. Water it really well, should help revive it, but you may only get leaves, no tomatoes -- I make that mistake once too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans resurrection
tools? You mean the lap top with the fancy software which will tell the tech to replace the gearbox with a new one. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans resurrection Well, how about if a trained MB tech came over with his tools while you lounged nearby, sipping a forty. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
Processor board doesn't "see" the rest of the ram. Note that Apple officially only supports 192 MB on the Wallstreet, but if you stick in two 256MB DIMMS, you get 512MB that works most of the time (depending on DIMMS, etc). I suspect you would only get 512MB on the Lombard if you put two 512MB DIMMS in. Might get 1 G, might crash. Remember, all this stuff was new back then, and expensive -- I believe the Wallstreet shgipped with a 4 GB hard drive and 64 MB of ram, and was the king of the laptops for a few months. Gee, I remember using a 286 with 512k of RAM because I couldn't find the $200 for the rest of the 1MB the motherboard would hold! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans resurrection
> < issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of the lists > resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and provide resources > would > be most welcome.>> > Well, how about if a trained MB tech came over with his tools while you lounged nearby, sipping a forty. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
- Original Message - From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Which poop is best for my tomato? I had amended the soil with some > nice composted chicken poop. When I planted I enriched around the > tomato start with composted steer poop. > The stupid plant has been there with a bean plant for two months and > not getting much taller than the second tier of the tomato cage. --- Maybe the secret is giving tomatos a good start in life. Years ago my widower uncle started his tomato plants in a tray. He kept them in his bedroom at night and watered them with his night urine. They produced about the best tomatos anyone has ever eaten. One day at dinner my mother was going on about how good Uncle Henrys tomatos were until my father told her how he had started them. She never ate another one after that. You could try Uncle Henrys method, Clay, just don't tell anyone how you started them. Gerry (-:] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] On topic: Clay's Shifter [was: Re: Way too much OT?]
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:24:16 -0700 Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up > shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of > the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and > provide resources would be most welcome. If I were closer, I would have been over already. That said, I think you already have all the advice you need. Get under there, remove the linkages from the transmission, and move the levers. Tell us what happens when you do that. For a reprise: - put the two forward gear shift levers in their middle positions, - try the reverse shift lever in its two positions. You have neutral when you can turn the driveshaft with the clutch pedal not depressed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] the OS debate.
Why would Hendrik w/o a bra ruin the beer? clay On Jul 17, 2007, at 8:13 PM, E M wrote: > I don't mean to offend, but I was sitting here having a good time, > checking > my mail and having a nice German wheat beer. I could have done > without > having that mental picture you just painted for me! ;-) > > Ed > 300E > >> >> Anyway it's back to strip poker for windows for me:0 >> I'm sitting here nude while the girls have not even lost a bra:( >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Walt Lasher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes List" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:47 AM >> Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? >> >> >> >>> Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? >>> >>> Walt Lasher >>> W140 S350 >>> Seattle >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] shift linkage
Are you working with a manual? there must be some steps in the shop book telling you how to set that thing up. What was the problem again, not going into gear due to alignment or something? I seem to recall watching one of those weekend shows on hotrods saying how you put an auto trans into a certain gear, and then made the various adjustments. I have a feeling you're pretty close to getting it sorted out and just missing one or two small steps. Maybe refresh our memories as to where you are with it?? Ed 300E On 17/07/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up > shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of > the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and > provide resources would be most welcome. > > clay > > On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:57 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > > > I think what happens is that when the list is slow, we make up > > other things to post about. > > > > Randy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:40 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? > > > > > > Walt, > > I have thought that lately, too. I was away for 4 days and had 400 > > messages > > form list this AM-Must have been over half OT as I worked the > > delete key. > > IMHO > > > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > > 1979 240D-250K + miles > > 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles > > Wickford, RI > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Walt Lasher > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:17 PM > > To: Mercedes List > > Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? > > > > Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic > material > > here on the list? > > Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > > > > Walt Lasher > > W140 S350 > > Seattle > > -- next part -- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: winmail.dat > > Type: application/ms-tnef > > Size: 2932 bytes > > Desc: not available > > Url : > > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/ > > 20070717/23e > > d5dcc/attachment.bin > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty
I think it is the same theory as the brake pad light. We should see how long it takes before the brakes fail after the light goes on. Bound to learn just how good the pads we purchased are. With a large enough sample we would be able to purchase the best pads for our new cars, since the old ones would be broken clay On Jul 17, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: > I've got a great idea, I'll keep driving my Benz till it runs out > of fuel > and then tell the world how much of an idiot I am because I can't > manage to > organise fuel for my vehicle. > Anyway it is hard to determine how far it would go after the light > comes on > bercause in all mine the yellow triangle likes to flicker for a > while before > deciding to stay on. > I guess that is a design, sort of like a like a gentle tap on the > shoulder > that turns into a kick up the backside. > So where would you start measuring from, the first flicker or when > it stays > on? > > - Original Message - > From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:26 PM > Subject: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty > > >> What won't they think of next? This is a "MUST VISIT" web site with >> marginal MB content (looks like only E class drivers run past the low >> fuel light) --- >> >> http://tankonempty.com/ >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kilts and turning nuts
HA HA HA!!! :-) Ed 300E On 18/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > < > cutting away the excess material.>. > > > So, you're a Scotsman, then. > > RLE > > > > > > > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kilts and turning nuts
> < cutting away the excess material.>. > So, you're a Scotsman, then. RLE > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
I can say I've never purchased a tool from the US that I was unhappy with. Even the less expensive ones have served me well, with the exception of a pair of wire snips, but cutting through two live circuits will blow a hole in pretty much anything. :-) I have never purchased a tool made in Asia that equals those made in the US, and that's not to say I haven't paid good money for some. Many of the auto supply shops here that now sell Chinese made tools as their house brand are charging the same money as they did 4=5 years ago for the same US made tools. I still have all those original US tools, with LOTS of hours on them, but most of the Chinese tools have been returned atleast once or twice. I"m sure there are exceptions, but that's my experience. The only tools I've ever bought that were worse than Chinese tools were those that came with my Porsche and were made in Germany. Then again, Porsches never break, so maybe that was their little joke. Those Germany engineers can have a pretty dry sense of humor at times. hee hee. :-) Ed 300E 911SC On 17/07/07, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alex Chamberlain wrote: > > On 7/17/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> While I do appreciate the finer tools, for my purposes a tool is > utilitarian > >> and nearly anything will do. > > > > But this is a false argument. The better something works, the more > > utilitarian it is, and good tools are expensive secondarily for their > > form but primarily for their function. For example, I recently had > > the chance to examine, side-by-side, three 12-point box wrenches in > > the same size, made respectively in the U.S., Taiwan, and mainland > > China. There was a noticeable difference in the consistency and shape > > of the "teeth" within each box. The U.S-made wrench had sharp edges > > and each tooth looked exactly the same as the next. The Chinese > > wrench had round edges and some teeth were much larger than others. > > The Taiwanese was somewhere in between. In this case I am sure that > > more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that > > the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. > > > Are you suggesting that ALL the tools from a specific country are of the > same quality? > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth Ph.D. > Ass't Prof. (ret.) > Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
> < would go down to the scout clean a car day and haggle them down to 50c for a > complete detail inside and out.>> > First of all, there is no "d" in my name. As to cleaning my own cars, you have no idea. I will put the cosmetic condition of either one up against ANY vehicle on this list. I have been a compulsive car cleaner since my very first car. When the P-car comes back from anyplace, it is washed and detailed inside and out before being covering in the garage. The black C320, being driven nearly every day, is a lot more work to keep as clean and shiny as possible. But, after years of using this and that polish and wax, I have found the brand that reduces the work needed and the time required. Use a commercial car wash? Over my dead body. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT? - tank-on-empty
Why is this OT? Talking about the Benz low fuel warning system is not OT, is it? I am sure that a lot of the readers sleep a lot better now that they know their warning light is not the only one that flickers. - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty > That's my take on it also --- > > On 7/17/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've got a great idea, I'll keep driving my Benz till it runs out of fuel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
Which poop is best for my tomato? I had amended the soil with some nice composted chicken poop. When I planted I enriched around the tomato start with composted steer poop. The stupid plant has been there with a bean plant for two months and not getting much taller than the second tier of the tomato cage. clay On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > I have a doctorate in Botany and have been gardening for about 40 > years > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days) - and ALFA's and memory lane
I'm glad to hear that as I loved driving both my '62 Spider and my '70 GTV, but neither of them would start in the morning if someone had spit near them during the night. The grey market GTV was wonderful to drive, especially fast when it was possible, and got 45 mpg at 75 mph with dual Webbers [when they were tuned correctly]. When I sold the GTV and bought a new Chevy Caprice my payments were less than upkeep had been on the Alfa [EXCEPT for gas... '73 Caprice got 13 MPG]. BillR Jacksonville FL 1962 Corvair [minor wreck - got the MB instead!!!] 1962 220Sb [RIP - head on crash at @ 50 mph] 1962 Alfa Spider - long gone 1970 Alfa GTV - long gone 1973 Caprice - swapped even for a 1973 Beetle - hail storm turned that into a golf ball 1979 Bonneville - gave up at 192k miles 1975 Subaru Wagon - RIP the tin-worm at 140k miles 1975 240D - living death when taken over by 3 teenage daughters [teen-age son was too young to drive] 1980 Mazda 929 - finally died at 245k miles *** Assorted non-descript US and imported *** 2001 Infinity I30 91K - Wife's car 1980 300SD 292k miles and going strong - my baby. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days) Just on Sat I saw one of those Alfa GTV6s I think it was -- a buddy of mine bought one of those ages ago after he finished school and got a real job. He really liked it. This one was in nice shape, even the AC was working (I guess, it was about 90F and the guy driving it had the windows up, unless that is some sort of Italian feature, which it no doubt could be). --R Fred Johnson wrote: > What am I left driving that has a/c.? The old reliable Alfa (!?). > The car that has not let me down in 3 years of ownership. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
Yeah, if you know it to be 100% clean but if it is anything like mine then it is full of crap just waiting to blow out onto that freshly washed duco. That and blowing dust off the ground onto the freshly washed car. Like I said pure genius. On the rare occasion that my cars get a clean I use a chamois to get rid of the excess water. Seeing I only wash the cars every three months or so it is not a big deal. - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires > Actually, drying a car with a leafblower does not sound like a bad > idea to me. Other than the noise annoying the neighbors. > > Allan > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and provide resources would be most welcome. clay On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:57 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > I think what happens is that when the list is slow, we make up > other things to post about. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? > > > Walt, > I have thought that lately, too. I was away for 4 days and had 400 > messages > form list this AM-Must have been over half OT as I worked the > delete key. > IMHO > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > 1979 240D-250K + miles > 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles > Wickford, RI > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Walt Lasher > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:17 PM > To: Mercedes List > Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? > > Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material > here on the list? > Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > > Walt Lasher > W140 S350 > Seattle > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: winmail.dat > Type: application/ms-tnef > Size: 2932 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/ > 20070717/23e > d5dcc/attachment.bin > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum issue 300D 2.5t
Hey -- wanted to thank you and others who nailed that problem with my son's SD -- he cleaned out the manifold connection, car running better but needs a bit more effort. Anyway, it was his first wrenching, and on his new ride, and it was quite satisfying for that to get resolved. The vac pump issue -- I have had the diaphragm rupture twice on the TD, lots of oil blowby and wouldn't shut off. Easy enough fix, not sure on the newer car how easy, but it should be tended to. --R Marshall Booth wrote: > There is almost surely turbo boost, but there is probably no correlated > fuel enrichment. This cause loss of power AND erratic shifting. Clean > the pressure line from the intake manifold to the ALDA. > > As to the vacuum pump leaking oil - REPLACE the pump now before it comes > apart and destroys the engine! > > Marshall > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] the OS debate.
I don't mean to offend, but I was sitting here having a good time, checking my mail and having a nice German wheat beer. I could have done without having that mental picture you just painted for me! ;-) Ed 300E > > Anyway it's back to strip poker for windows for me:0 > I'm sitting here nude while the girls have not even lost a bra:( > > - Original Message - > From: "Walt Lasher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:47 AM > Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? > > > > > Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > > > > Walt Lasher > > W140 S350 > > Seattle > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WAY OFF TOPIC disallowed Re: my $50 lombard is now upgraded
Sorry, the topic police have declared this to be way off topic and as such you are going to cuba to spend time in a government facility. The war on off topic posts continues and we will win. - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: [MBZ] my $50 lombard is now upgraded > 256 meg ram, os 10.4.10, firewire. brilliant cosmetic condition. screen > is > like new. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: pressure washers
Ahh well that's different, those are taxpayer owned vehicles. There to be used and abused as much as possible. - Original Message - From: "Scott Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires > In a prior life, we washed Army vehicles with a fire hose, literally. We > had driven those things through streams, shallow bogs, and small ponds > maneuvering while maintaining cover. Those much more experienced than me > knew exactly where to direct the hose to blast out caked-on mud in the > many > nooks and crannies. These things were OD flat, so they didn't shine, but > they seemed to get pretty clean at the old wash rack. > > Scott Ritchey > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
Yes, you are. I love hearing the cardigan wearing, apple loving mob going on about how great their OS is. Question is, if it is so great why do they have to keep telling themselves and everybody else? Perhaps this is the only place in the universe where they are tolerated? Phehaps there is no specific iluvAppleandhatewindow$anddriveaMercedes forum on the planet? Perhaps because of the lack of fun programs for the Apple OS they have to spend their time going on about how great it is? Who knows? Who cares? Anyway it's back to strip poker for windows for me:0 I'm sitting here nude while the girls have not even lost a bra:( - Original Message - From: "Walt Lasher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:47 AM Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? > Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > > Walt Lasher > W140 S350 > Seattle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines
Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On 7/17/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> While I do appreciate the finer tools, for my purposes a tool is utilitarian >> and nearly anything will do. > > But this is a false argument. The better something works, the more > utilitarian it is, and good tools are expensive secondarily for their > form but primarily for their function. For example, I recently had > the chance to examine, side-by-side, three 12-point box wrenches in > the same size, made respectively in the U.S., Taiwan, and mainland > China. There was a noticeable difference in the consistency and shape > of the "teeth" within each box. The U.S-made wrench had sharp edges > and each tooth looked exactly the same as the next. The Chinese > wrench had round edges and some teeth were much larger than others. > The Taiwanese was somewhere in between. In this case I am sure that > more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that > the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. Are you suggesting that ALL the tools from a specific country are of the same quality? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter
Allan Streib wrote: > "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Torque on 240D is 20 ft pounds, 15 Nm. > > 20 lb-ft on the center bolt? I'll check that, I doubt I have mine > that tight. I thought I just had to snug up the rubber rim on the > filter itself. > > Allan Ain't now way that 20 lb-ft = 15 Nm. That's backwards, 20 Nm = 15 lb-ft. Overtighten it and it stretches and it will NEVER seal. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum issue 300D 2.5t
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: > Recently the 'classic care technician' at the local stealer told me that I > had an oil leak on my vacuum pump- I asked how urgent to fix remembering the > stories of bad vacuum pumps on the 123's. He said no hurry-it's not like the > old ones-BUT lately I have noticed that I have no turbo boost except staring > out at high RPM's,. > > Question-before doing the usual non boost diagnostics, is it possible that > the leaking vacuum pump could be the problem? My shifts also seem to be > harsher-but could be pushing engine harder to compensate for no turbo boost. There is almost surely turbo boost, but there is probably no correlated fuel enrichment. This cause loss of power AND erratic shifting. Clean the pressure line from the intake manifold to the ALDA. As to the vacuum pump leaking oil - REPLACE the pump now before it comes apart and destroys the engine! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty
That's my take on it also --- On 7/17/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got a great idea, I'll keep driving my Benz till it runs out of fuel > and then tell the world how much of an idiot I am because I can't manage to > organise fuel for my vehicle. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines
On 7/17/07, Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:54:29 -0700, you wrote: > > In this case I am sure that > >more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that > >the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. > > > Why would that be? A box wrench doesn't drive off it's points, it > drives of a therotical point on it's flanks. Surely it's the consistency and shape of the teeth, and in general the overall precision with which the interior of the wrench corresponds to the exterior of the nut, that determine the spread of the driving force across the flats and the stability (and thus resistance to rounding) of the wrench. In other words, if a wrench fits the nut snugly, it's less likely to slip, and a well-made wrench fits better. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] US made tools.
not only is it stronger, but you can get the same strength with less material (weight) than no forged. That's why you can put a nice sticky tire on a forged rim and not yet, still keep the rim light. Probably have to pay a couple of thousand per rim, but quality doesn't come cheap. S&W had an ad compaign a few years back saying due to the quality of their forgings, they would make the frame of their .44s lighter, and yet as strong as other companies using less costly manufacturing techniques. BBS was also trying messing around with a new way to make rims a while back, that "vacuumed" the aluminum up into the mold instead of pouring. They said it was almost as strong as forging, if I remember correctly. Ed 300E On 17/07/07, Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:12:42 -0400, you wrote: > > >Don't worry Alex, a few turns with that chinese wrench and the bolt will > >round off any of those high spots the wrench may have. :-) I think > >"forging" is defined differently around the world. I think of it as > forming > >the tool under many tonnes of pressure. I'm sure other places just think > of > >it as "give it a good whack with a hammer" when the metal is still warm. > > > Forging (Hoot or Cold) makes the metal flow. It is much stronger than > cutting away the excess material. > > > -- > > Regards, > > Peter T. Arnold > > 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! > 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson > 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen > Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wrenches.
All is well providing the tool is made so that it's flanks like up as they should with bolt head. I've put a cheap wrencho on a bolt before and it's had so much play, I keep checking to make srue I didn't grab a SAE by mistake when I wanted metric. oh yeah, and it was the right size. hee hee. That's a wrench you put aside for when you're working on one of those cars with both standards, and you can't figure out what the bolt is. With a wrench like that, and a little penetrating oil, atleast a couple of flanks are bound to grab somewhere on the bolt. hee hee. Ed 300E On 17/07/07, Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:54:29 -0700, you wrote: > > In this case I am sure that > >more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that > >the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. > > > >Alex > > > Why would that be? A box wrench doesn't drive off it's points, it > drives of a therotical point on it's flanks. > > -- > > Regards, > > Peter T. Arnold > > 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! > 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson > 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen > Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] US made tools.
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:12:42 -0400, you wrote: >Don't worry Alex, a few turns with that chinese wrench and the bolt will >round off any of those high spots the wrench may have. :-) I think >"forging" is defined differently around the world. I think of it as forming >the tool under many tonnes of pressure. I'm sure other places just think of >it as "give it a good whack with a hammer" when the metal is still warm. > Forging (Hoot or Cold) makes the metal flow. It is much stronger than cutting away the excess material. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Alfa and Italian windows.
Ferrari must use the same window supplier as Alfa on their 456 GTA. hee hee Ed 300E On 17/07/07, Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:31:21 -0500, you wrote: > > >Just on Sat I saw one of those Alfa GTV6s I think it was -- a buddy of > >mine bought one of those ages ago after he finished school and got a > >real job. He really liked it. This one was in nice shape, even the AC > >was working (I guess, it was about 90F and the guy driving it had the > >windows up, unless that is some sort of Italian feature, which it no > >doubt could be). > > > >--R > Wrong conclusion on an Italian car. It doesn't mean the A/C works, it > means the windows don't! > > > -- > > Regards, > > Peter T. Arnold > > 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! > 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson > 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen > Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars.
A lot of the bike guys will dry their bikes with a leafblower, but if there is any sand or grit around, you're pretty much sandblasting it. :-) I like a couple of big beach towels best for drying the cars. I get them for about $10 each at Walmart (even made in Canada). Takes about 2 minutes for the whole car. I've read not to use a softener in the water when washing towels if you are going to use them on a car, but I could never figure out why? I find they pick up the water much better when soft, and softer can't be worse on the paint. Something in the softener that effects wax maybe?? Ed 300E On 17/07/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, drying a car with a leafblower does not sound like a bad > idea to me. Other than the noise annoying the neighbors. > > Allan > > "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Genius, pure genius. > > I suppose he polishes it with sandpaper as well and details the > > engine with a sandblaster? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires > > > > > >> I thought it was the American way to use a pressure washer on > >> anything you can't clean with a leafblower. > >> > >> That's exactly how our neighbor was. One day, he even got the > >> bright idea to dry off his truck with his leafblower. > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days)
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:31:21 -0500, you wrote: >Just on Sat I saw one of those Alfa GTV6s I think it was -- a buddy of >mine bought one of those ages ago after he finished school and got a >real job. He really liked it. This one was in nice shape, even the AC >was working (I guess, it was about 90F and the guy driving it had the >windows up, unless that is some sort of Italian feature, which it no >doubt could be). > >--R Wrong conclusion on an Italian car. It doesn't mean the A/C works, it means the windows don't! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:54:29 -0700, you wrote: In this case I am sure that >more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that >the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. > >Alex > Why would that be? A box wrench doesn't drive off it's points, it drives of a therotical point on it's flanks. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty
I've got a great idea, I'll keep driving my Benz till it runs out of fuel and then tell the world how much of an idiot I am because I can't manage to organise fuel for my vehicle. Anyway it is hard to determine how far it would go after the light comes on bercause in all mine the yellow triangle likes to flicker for a while before deciding to stay on. I guess that is a design, sort of like a like a gentle tap on the shoulder that turns into a kick up the backside. So where would you start measuring from, the first flicker or when it stays on? - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty > What won't they think of next? This is a "MUST VISIT" web site with > marginal MB content (looks like only E class drivers run past the low > fuel light) --- > > http://tankonempty.com/ > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
Actually, drying a car with a leafblower does not sound like a bad idea to me. Other than the noise annoying the neighbors. Allan "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Genius, pure genius. > I suppose he polishes it with sandpaper as well and details the > engine with a sandblaster? > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires > > >> I thought it was the American way to use a pressure washer on >> anything you can't clean with a leafblower. >> >> That's exactly how our neighbor was. One day, he even got the >> bright idea to dry off his truck with his leafblower. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coin op
I'm just amazed that Rodger cleans his own cars, I would have thought he would go down to the scout clean a car day and haggle them down to 50c for a complete detail inside and out. - Original Message - From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coin op > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> <>> everywhere >>> here, and are used heavily>> >>> >> Those aren't pressure washers, of course. > > Huh? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] US made tools.
Don't worry Alex, a few turns with that chinese wrench and the bolt will round off any of those high spots the wrench may have. :-) I think "forging" is defined differently around the world. I think of it as forming the tool under many tonnes of pressure. I'm sure other places just think of it as "give it a good whack with a hammer" when the metal is still warm. Ed 300E On 17/07/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/17/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I do appreciate the finer tools, for my purposes a tool is > utilitarian > > and nearly anything will do. > > But this is a false argument. The better something works, the more > utilitarian it is, and good tools are expensive secondarily for their > form but primarily for their function. For example, I recently had > the chance to examine, side-by-side, three 12-point box wrenches in > the same size, made respectively in the U.S., Taiwan, and mainland > China. There was a noticeable difference in the consistency and shape > of the "teeth" within each box. The U.S-made wrench had sharp edges > and each tooth looked exactly the same as the next. The Chinese > wrench had round edges and some teeth were much larger than others. > The Taiwanese was somewhere in between. In this case I am sure that > more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that > the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
Genius, pure genius. I suppose he polishes it with sandpaper as well and details the engine with a sandblaster? - Original Message - From: "Kevin Kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires >I thought it was the American way to use a pressure washer on anything you > can't clean with a leafblower. > > That's exactly how our neighbor was. One day, he even got the bright idea > to dry off his truck with his leafblower. > > Kevin in Portland, OR > 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123
Send me the airfare money and you got a deal:) - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123 > How about you pop over and do mine? > > --R > > Hendrik Riessen wrote: >> I have had no problem aligning glove box lids on 123's, it is a matter of >> understanding the design. I found two small screwdrivers and a larger one >> work wonders for those weird nuts. >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Gmail
RLE, just sent you an invite to Gmail so you can have a look and see if it is something that might help you sort out your mail. it has some good features I think you will find useful. Regards, Ed 300E On 17/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > < pretty > > easy to kill threads that are not interesting or have wandered off > topic. > > But not all email readers do that well.>> > > > And I (among many others) will point out for the thousandth time that > until > the header has something to do with the message content, sorting by thread > is > worthless. > > As for me, and I'm on digest, I look at the headers at the top of the page > and very often just delete the whole thing then and there. > > Week before last I was in San Diego for a week and upon returning was > faced > with pages of emails, both from this list, banned and the R/E list. And > others. > I looked at a few, saw I had missed nothing, and deleted everything. > > RLE > > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines
On 7/17/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I do appreciate the finer tools, for my purposes a tool is utilitarian > and nearly anything will do. But this is a false argument. The better something works, the more utilitarian it is, and good tools are expensive secondarily for their form but primarily for their function. For example, I recently had the chance to examine, side-by-side, three 12-point box wrenches in the same size, made respectively in the U.S., Taiwan, and mainland China. There was a noticeable difference in the consistency and shape of the "teeth" within each box. The U.S-made wrench had sharp edges and each tooth looked exactly the same as the next. The Chinese wrench had round edges and some teeth were much larger than others. The Taiwanese was somewhere in between. In this case I am sure that more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
I think lists do become a bit of a social thing, which I think is fine. I mean, we are all here because we like or have a mercedes, most appreciate diesels, and we all pick up a wrench from time to time, so if the topic kind of wonders off to "what type of tools you like, or why you like them", not a really big deal to me. Again I think a common interest brought us together here. I belong to several car lists, and while it's nice to have people with similar interests under one roof, the fact is, any info you need to make a repair on any car is out there, without having to join a list. Most repairs I've done in the past I've done without the aid of a list. For me, if my time becomes so tight that hitting the delete button is too time consumnig, I probably would be messing around fixing my own cars and checking list anyway, I'd just take them in, or drive a Toyota. :-) Ed 300E On 17/07/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/17/07, Walt Lasher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic > material > > here on the list? > > Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > > > > Walt Lasher > > I've come to view it like this: A person joins the list, lurks a > little, asks a question, gets a fix, and then comes to the thought of > "X knew Y about Z, maybe they know R about Q as well" and instead of > venturing out to make new "friends" they use a list they have come to > be comfortable with and use it for more than it's original purpose. > > It's actually very intriguing to watch the social networking and > structuring that occurs between people here and the things they talk > about. > > Besides, we all know that if we kept to Mercedes *only* content, this > would be a very slow list. Probably about 2 posts a week, as more > people learned to use the archive and found their needed info from > previous posts and as new problems with nearly bullet proof W123's > because fewer and farther between, we'd be better to look in once a > quarter. > > It's one of the reasons Kaleb started a Linux list, for OT *NIXy > content, that doesn't get used as it should, because everyone is on > *this* list. > > Just my 2 cents, > > Ed > -- > Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
This whole community is geared toward more than just MB stuff. Yes, that is our main interest, but we have the OkieQ, and the RustyQ so people who have become friends on list can meet and greet in person. Pretty soon everyone gets to know more about everyone else attending these evens which leads to even more on list good converstion about things other than MB. Ed Booher wrote: > On 7/17/07, Walt Lasher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material >> here on the list? >> Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? >> >> Walt Lasher > > I've come to view it like this: A person joins the list, lurks a > little, asks a question, gets a fix, and then comes to the thought of > "X knew Y about Z, maybe they know R about Q as well" and instead of > venturing out to make new "friends" they use a list they have come to > be comfortable with and use it for more than it's original purpose. > > It's actually very intriguing to watch the social networking and > structuring that occurs between people here and the things they talk > about. > > Besides, we all know that if we kept to Mercedes *only* content, this > would be a very slow list. Probably about 2 posts a week, as more > people learned to use the archive and found their needed info from > previous posts and as new problems with nearly bullet proof W123's > because fewer and farther between, we'd be better to look in once a > quarter. > > It's one of the reasons Kaleb started a Linux list, for OT *NIXy > content, that doesn't get used as it should, because everyone is on > *this* list. > > Just my 2 cents, > > Ed -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter
"Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Torque on 240D is 20 ft pounds, 15 Nm. 20 lb-ft on the center bolt? I'll check that, I doubt I have mine that tight. I thought I just had to snug up the rubber rim on the filter itself. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter
Alan, My 240D has a copper washer. My 300D 2.5t seems to have no washer on the top of the fuel filter. Both have the O rings that come with the filter. I had to order some new copper washers from Rusty when we discovered that my brother's 240D had a rubber washed squeezed on the top by dumb PO. Torque on 240D is 20 ft pounds, 15 Nm. Having said that, I ran the 300D 2.5 out of fuel this weekend on the road and had to replace both filters-I only had an adjustable wrench (metric of course) and actually changed the filter canister and 'torqued' the top bolt with it-drove over 450 miles and no leak on a hand guess torque. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IIRC there should be a copper washer on the hollow > bolt. Is there normally a replacement with the new filter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sorting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> <> easy to kill threads that are not interesting or have wandered off topic. >> But not all email readers do that well.>> >> > And I (among many others) will point out for the thousandth time that until > the header has something to do with the message content, sorting by thread is > worthless. Sorting by subject != grouping by thread. A good mail reader knows which messages are replies to which others, and when a thread goes off topic you can easily kill it and any further responses. You can in fact navigage subthreads within the same subject line. Gnus, a news and mail reader that runs in Emacs, is very good at this. It's what I use. But unless you are already a seasoned user of Emacs, you'd likely find it too arcane to bother with. I'm not familiar with what GMail does. But surely there must be other mail readers that handle threads properly. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] test
Thanks Alex, got it!! :-) Ed 300E On 17/07/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/17/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With my other mail programmes, it's > > easy to change the subject line, but I still haven't figured out how to > do > > it yet with gmail? > > > > Ed, when you reply to a message, just click "Edit Subject" right above > the box where you enter your message text. > > Gmail is the greatest thing since sliced bread for keeping up with > mailing lists. I can follow the threads I want and delete the ones I > don't nearly as fast as I could when reading Usenet with "trn" back in > the good ol' days. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
When I lived in South San Francisco it never ceased to amaze me at how there are all these little "microclimates" from SFO all the way down the peninsula. You could be in the city where it was 55F and down in the South bay ot would be in the 90s. However, that was not the case when I moved over to Half Moon Bay... Dan --- Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/17/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lombard is a really windy street in San Francisco. > Do not try taking a > > 4x4 crew cab dually down it, it's a really bad > idea. > > I thought all the streets in San Francisco were > windy. You get that > cold air right off the bay no matter where you are, > it seems like. > Brrr! > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
On 7/17/07, Walt Lasher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material > here on the list? > Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > > Walt Lasher I've come to view it like this: A person joins the list, lurks a little, asks a question, gets a fix, and then comes to the thought of "X knew Y about Z, maybe they know R about Q as well" and instead of venturing out to make new "friends" they use a list they have come to be comfortable with and use it for more than it's original purpose. It's actually very intriguing to watch the social networking and structuring that occurs between people here and the things they talk about. Besides, we all know that if we kept to Mercedes *only* content, this would be a very slow list. Probably about 2 posts a week, as more people learned to use the archive and found their needed info from previous posts and as new problems with nearly bullet proof W123's because fewer and farther between, we'd be better to look in once a quarter. It's one of the reasons Kaleb started a Linux list, for OT *NIXy content, that doesn't get used as it should, because everyone is on *this* list. Just my 2 cents, Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
Yeah, that what I figured. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? Hey that's a heck of a lot better odds than the Powerball. "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes-It's Carriage House MB, and the art museum in New London CT. They are > selling 600 chances for $65.00 each. I saw the car-it's showroom-I fell for > it. Will have to skip Powerball for a few weeks if I don't win it. If I do > win it, I will have to get a diesel scented air freshener. > Dwight > > http://www.lymanallyn.org/gala/index.html -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IPod sales
You report market share numbers, then say you don't count the numbers from apple's stores or apple online sales, or costco. So where do the numbers come from then? Staples? Craig's list? obsolete product sales from tiger distributing? If you don't count sold items from Apple's normal retail channels then is that 72.7% bigger? Likely... On Jul 17, 2007, at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> <> costco, >> and online so likely that 72.7% is higher for the few gazzillion >> ipods sold >> thru their channels not counted here.>> >> > What's odd about it? As of some time late last year, Apple reported > Ipod > sales at 100 million units. > > I don't own one. > > RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
On 7/17/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to Apple and Low End Mac, the Lombard only officially > supports 384 MB of RAM and the DIMM can not be larger than 256MB. Hey, it could be worse. On the first Mac I owned you had to cut a jumper on the motherboard if you wanted to install more than 1 Mb. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IPod sales
> < and online so likely that 72.7% is higher for the few gazzillion ipods sold > thru their channels not counted here.>> > What's odd about it? As of some time late last year, Apple reported Ipod sales at 100 million units. I don't own one. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
On 7/17/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is what confuses me, young poos. why then is hte pismo expandable to 1 > gig but the lombard only to 512 meg? shouldn't the same 2 512meg boards i > have in the pismo work in the lombard? According to Apple and Low End Mac, the Lombard only officially supports 384 MB of RAM and the DIMM can not be larger than 256MB. What this tells me is the RAM controller simply does not know how to address RAM past a certain address. You can get the Lombard to recognize 512MB pretty reliably, but some versions of OS X require you to take out one of the DIMM during installation because it will halt with a kernal panic because of this issue. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sorting
> < easy to kill threads that are not interesting or have wandered off topic. > But not all email readers do that well.>> > And I (among many others) will point out for the thousandth time that until the header has something to do with the message content, sorting by thread is worthless. As for me, and I'm on digest, I look at the headers at the top of the page and very often just delete the whole thing then and there. Week before last I was in San Diego for a week and upon returning was faced with pages of emails, both from this list, banned and the R/E list. And others. I looked at a few, saw I had missed nothing, and deleted everything. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
On 7/17/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lombard is a really windy street in San Francisco. Do not try taking a > 4x4 crew cab dually down it, it's a really bad idea. I thought all the streets in San Francisco were windy. You get that cold air right off the bay no matter where you are, it seems like. Brrr! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $50 lombard is now upgraded
On 7/17/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and now you can tell me i'm an idiot as i could buy a brand new vista > equipped acer laptop for 400 bucks. Just like you could get a new Kia for the price of Kaleb's 420SEL. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
On 7/17/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With my other mail programmes, it's > easy to change the subject line, but I still haven't figured out how to do > it yet with gmail? > Ed, when you reply to a message, just click "Edit Subject" right above the box where you enter your message text. Gmail is the greatest thing since sliced bread for keeping up with mailing lists. I can follow the threads I want and delete the ones I don't nearly as fast as I could when reading Usenet with "trn" back in the good ol' days. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
Lombard is a really windy street in San Francisco. Do not try taking a 4x4 crew cab dually down it, it's a really bad idea. On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 01:33:01PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > I have no idea what a pismo is or a lombard ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 20, Issue 98
> < on the list?>> > Well, what exactly is the topic, anyway? Not diesel stuff. > > <> > Uh, well, you called it. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
Probably. The only problem would be hardware-specific drivers that might be different between the two. Then again, they are so similar to each other I suspect that the PPC kernels in OS X won't care. MacDan --- Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so you know that a pismo cpu will not fit in a > lombard? i just learned > this. i have 1 256 around and should be able to > take another from sme other > machine. then i just take my os x tiger hard drive > off my pismo and plug it > in the lombard and, poof, i am done.. > > it is that simple right? > > On 7/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > yes, the so-dimm will fit just fine I used a 256 > 133 in my > > wallstreet and the moved it to the TiBook > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, > work wrote: > > > > > I have no idea what a pismo is or a lombard > > > > > > --- > > > Kaleb C. Striplin > > > Cox Auto Trader > > > 730 PP Supervisor > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:26 PM > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] vista > > > > > > > > >> god, i gotta start paying attention. > > >> > > >> any of you guys know if pismo ram works on a > lombard? > > >> > > >> i showed the lombard i'm giving my mom to my > kid. it is os 9 , > > >> 4.5 gig > > >> drive and 64 meg ram. my 10 year old gave me > the look of "you > > >> gotta be > > >> kidding" and then explained how we can't give > gramma this POSso i > > >> figure > > >> i'll take the hd and some ram off my pismo, but > i don't know if > > >> the ram > > >> will > > >> work. > > >> > > >> On 7/17/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Gary Hurst wrote: > > i thought you worked in a pen keeping retards > calm? > > >>> > > >>> Wrong Don > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to: > > >>> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to: > > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
I learned not to do that way back in the early days of OS 9.x. There were a few updates that they put out that would break stuff. Ouch. I would say that their OS X updates are pretty bulletproof, but some of the app updates, like iTunes, can be hinky right out of the box. And yes, you can certainly crash a Mac, but you can't "force quit" on a PC like you can on a Mac MacDan --- Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The thing about Mac guys is they generally jump to > update everytime sometime comes available. > I can remember at one point when I worked in tech > support where my first call every day for 2 weeks > was answered with "sorry but you shouldn't have > upgraded the OS without asking us first." > Apple had broken our software with an update and it > took us a couple weeks to catch up. > I'd say things like "lets turn off automatic > updates" and then the next time an OS update came > out we'd go through the SAME DANG THING... > > Anybody who tells you a Mac can't crash isn't using > it hard enough. At NAB this year (big broadcaster's > convention) I walked into the Apple booth and was > looking for a seat when I happened to glance up and > the Mac had crashed. > That was in the Apple booth running Final Cut Pro... > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:53:23 -0500 > From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] vista > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > I finally got an opportunity to work with a Mac last > week. I have thsi > digital video clip that needs just a little editing, > so I took it to > the publications office, where they have lots of > Macs. They pointed me > to the one with the most RAM - 3 Gigs I think. > Copied the video from > the camera - open iMovie - tried to add a title - > crashed iMovie. > Restarted - wouldn't save the file. Shut the Mac > down, powered it back > up - same thing. Drove across town, found the guy > with a cheap video > editing program on a PC - worked just fine. Nice > titles on the 1 > minute clip. I work in an IT shop that supports 8000 > PCs, 250 Windows > servers, 10 Macs, and a couple of mainframes.I > beleive that the 10 > Macs in the publications unit have as much trouble > as 100 PCs in an > office. The systems guys managed to blue-screen the > mainframe a couple > of weeks ago - due to a hardware driver > configuration issue - that was > amazing. > It's all in the management - those Macs are > unmanaged. > > Free range chickens = road kill, regardless of the > pedigree. > > > - > Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email > wherever you're surfing. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
The issue with the EU is not Apple's, but the music industry's. The labels have different coontractual arrangements in different countries, which forces Apple to have different iTunes stores in each area that requires different terms for the labels and artists. This is the jist of the conflict going on in Denmark between their government and Apple. It's not an Apple issue - the record labels have to standardize their royalties and terms across the board. Dan --- Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apple doesn't own the music player business, and the > EU is going to > force them to open up services -- at that point, > there are several > other manufacturers that sell good ones (some of my > friends already > have them). Cell phones, we shall wait and see, > that one I don't think > will work so well. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter
There are 2 O ring seals on the bolt and they need to be replaced. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" Sent: 7/17/07 4:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter On Sunday I changed my in-line and spin-on fuel filters on the 300D, and today when I approached the car I detected the aroma of -- no, not soybean oil or rancid french fries -- Diesel fuel. Checking the filters, there was fuel seeping out around the big center bolt on the spin-on filter. I tightened it a bit more, and will keep an eye on it. Is there any gasket or washer there that should be replaced as part of the filter change? There were none in the box with the new filter. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
Ya, own is 100% "NPD reported figures for January 2007, reporting on a quarter billion dollars of MP3 players: NPD’s numbers only cover retailers that supply it with data, which excludes Apple, Costco, online sales, and mail order outlets. 1. Apple 72.7% 2. Sandisk 8.9% 3. Microsoft 3.2% 4. Creative Labs 2.9% 5. Samsung 2.0% " Oddly Apple sells lots of ipods at their Apple stores, plus at costco, and online so likely that 72.7% is higher for the few gazzillion ipods sold thru their channels not counted here. On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Apple doesn't own the music player business, and the EU is going to > force them to open up services -- at that point, there are several > other manufacturers that sell good ones (some of my friends already > have them). Cell phones, we shall wait and see, that one I don't > think will work so well. > > Peter > John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
as the tradition i come out of here is that of being a banned guy, there is never enough off topic material. On 7/17/07, Walt Lasher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic > material > here on the list? > Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > > Walt Lasher > W140 S350 > Seattle > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: winmail.dat > Type: application/ms-tnef > Size: 2932 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070717/23ed5dcc/attachment.bin > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
I can see how that can be a pain. I've set up this gmail account and just have all my car stuff directed to it. I can go through it pretty fast and just delete the stuff of no interest. With my other mail programmes, it's easy to change the subject line, but I still haven't figured out how to do it yet with gmail? I think to the lack of tech stuff if partially due to the cars. There is a lot of chat about what oil to use, and filters, but other than that, or some pretty normal wear stuff, these cars tend to just keep going...just add gas. If more owned V12s with a couple of turbos added to boot, we'd probably all be spending more of our free time on our backs tinkering. :-) If you want a gmail account, I can send you an invite?? Lots of storage and you can get off digest mode if you're on it. I find it makes it much easier and fast to sort through stuff. Ed 300E On 17/07/07, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > people that use an e-mail list to "get to know" people don't understand > the concept of what an e-mail list is for, and/or haven't played enough > e-mail to understand how quickly it makes a topic-specific list useless. > > want to socialize through a computer? that's what IM programs and > Chat Rooms are for! > so bored that you rely on an e-mail list for your entertainment? > short of getting a real life, try browsing through the many web forums > available on the 'net; odds are if a lists activity is your idea of > entertaining, you shouldn't find it too difficult to find something that > will help you keep yourself entertained. > > sorting by Subject line and deleting entire threads is what i tend > to have to do with this list; sadly, i have to do more of it for this > list than any other i've ever seen. the Signal-to-Noise ratio here is > pitiful, but i keep sifting through it for the little gems of wisdom > that occasionally (albeit increasingly all too infrequently) come through. > the fact that so many here don't seem to be able to change a Subject > Line to something relevant to the topic being discussed only makes it > more difficult to sift through the substantial chaff here, and only make > it harder to glean any relevant info for themselves or others. > > > cheers! > e > > > Allan Streib wrote: > > There has been a lot. I think it adds a dimension of getting to > > "know" people, as much as that's possible over email, but see how it > > could be annoying to someone on Digest mode or only checking > > periodically. > > > > If you have an email reader that can group messages by thread it's > > pretty easy to kill threads that are not interesting or have wandered > > off topic. But not all email readers do that well. > > > > "Walt Lasher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >> Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material > >> here on the list? Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > >> > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lock Cylinder Removal - UPDATE
Dave, With the cylinder out, you can work the mechanism with a screwdriver or similar tool. Make sure the rest of the mechanism works smoothly before installing the new cylinder. I have had a very sticky mechanism that I fixed by squirting some lubricant in there with the cylinder removed, but that may be a bad idea in cold climates. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 14:15 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lock Cylinder Removal - UPDATE Went home for lunch in the 82 300SD and farted around with the e320 ignition again. I found a good picture of the removal tool I need (for around $90) on the internet, and after looking at it, decided I could make one. I stopped at the hardware store on the way, and bought a piece of brass sink drain pipe for $4 and some change to make it. The ignition cover is basically a circle with a flat spot the tool goes over, so I took a old PC peripheral blank cover (basically a piece of flat metal) and ground it a little narrower, bent it over itself on one end, and hooked it on the drain pipe. Used a clamp strap to secure it to the pipe, and put it to work. After a little adjusting, I got the ignition out! In my hands, it looks like all the pins work as they should. There is no way I would put it back in though, and for $100 Rusty can order me a new one keyed to my VIN. I'm cheap, but would rather my original keys work then save $55 for the other one he sells with random key. Looks like I'll drive the 'ol diesel for awhile until the new part arrives. Thanks again Joe for the PDF's you sent me. Dave Wakin - Original Message - From: "Dave Wakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: [MBZ] Lock Cylinder Removal > Thanks to Joe's PDF of the lock cylinder removal process on my 97 e320, I > got a little further then before. I am still unable to get the cylinder > out > though. > > I have the key in position 1, and made a tool to turn the black cover, > but > I can only get it to turn about 45 degrees instead of the 90 needed to > remove it. I put the key in position 2 just to see what would happen, and > the cover turns just as far, so I have a feeling position 1 is not > unlocking > something. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > I also see in the PDF Joe sent me that the say to try lubing the lock > cylinder first - anyone think this might work for me? The no key turning > situation came out of no where, and I use the original keys, not cheap > copies. > > Thanks, > > Dave Wakin > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] my $50 lombard is now upgraded
256 meg ram, os 10.4.10, firewire. brilliant cosmetic condition. screen is like new. hard to calculate how much money i have in this, but i'd say it looks something like this. machine: $50 shipping machine from jersey: 15 firewire: $40 ram: surplus from baptist church buy last week (essentially free as the airport card is worth the $60 i paid for all the parts) hard drive: $70 (pulled out of my pismo, so i have to go to fry's now and get a replacement drive) so figure about $175 for a very very nice firewire equipped lombard. i think it should be adequate for my mom for email and websurfing, i'd think. the interesting thing is that the memory is marked 256 meg, but the machine only recognize 128 meg (exactly 1/2). i wonder if it only reads half the memory on the cards, so if a pismo can be upgraded to 1 meg, the lombard can only read that ram as 512 meg. and now you can tell me i'm an idiot as i could buy a brand new vista equipped acer laptop for 400 bucks. right kleb? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter
I have a bunch of these copper washers. If you need one, email me off-list with your address and I'll drop some into the mail tomorrow. On 7/17/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > IIRC there should be a copper washer on the hollow > > bolt. > > Is there normally a replacement with the new filter? > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter
I think the washer is aluminum but it's the same size as the copper washer on the oil plug. I once tried a copper washer but it didn't seal well ... I think the copper is too hard for the casting. In my 82 SD, I just torque the bolt a tiny bit at a time until the leak stops. My 79 300TD has a different hollow bolt with an extra O-ring that seems to prevent this leak in the first place. I wonder why they changed the design (probably to save cost). Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 17:07 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter On Sunday I changed my in-line and spin-on fuel filters on the 300D, and today when I approached the car I detected the aroma of -- no, not soybean oil or rancid french fries -- Diesel fuel. Checking the filters, there was fuel seeping out around the big center bolt on the spin-on filter. I tightened it a bit more, and will keep an eye on it. Is there any gasket or washer there that should be replaced as part of the filter change? There were none in the box with the new filter. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
Apple doesn't own the music player business, and the EU is going to force them to open up services -- at that point, there are several other manufacturers that sell good ones (some of my friends already have them). Cell phones, we shall wait and see, that one I don't think will work so well. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
In a prior life, we washed Army vehicles with a fire hose, literally. We had driven those things through streams, shallow bogs, and small ponds maneuvering while maintaining cover. Those much more experienced than me knew exactly where to direct the hose to blast out caked-on mud in the many nooks and crannies. These things were OD flat, so they didn't shine, but they seemed to get pretty clean at the old wash rack. Scott Ritchey Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On 7/16/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can't imagine anyone with half a brain in their head >> getting a pressure washer anywhere near a car. >> >> Dan >> > > I thought it was the American way to use a pressure washer on anything > you can't clean with a leafblower. > > Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
I have a doctorate in Botany and have been gardening for about 40 years Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
so you know that a pismo cpu will not fit in a lombard? i just learned this. i have 1 256 around and should be able to take another from sme other machine. then i just take my os x tiger hard drive off my pismo and plug it in the lombard and, poof, i am done.. it is that simple right? On 7/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yes, the so-dimm will fit just fine I used a 256 133 in my > wallstreet and the moved it to the TiBook > > > On Jul 17, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > > > I have no idea what a pismo is or a lombard > > > > --- > > Kaleb C. Striplin > > Cox Auto Trader > > 730 PP Supervisor > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] vista > > > > > >> god, i gotta start paying attention. > >> > >> any of you guys know if pismo ram works on a lombard? > >> > >> i showed the lombard i'm giving my mom to my kid. it is os 9 , > >> 4.5 gig > >> drive and 64 meg ram. my 10 year old gave me the look of "you > >> gotta be > >> kidding" and then explained how we can't give gramma this POSso i > >> figure > >> i'll take the hd and some ram off my pismo, but i don't know if > >> the ram > >> will > >> work. > >> > >> On 7/17/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Gary Hurst wrote: > i thought you worked in a pen keeping retards calm? > >>> > >>> Wrong Don > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
ernest breakfield wrote: > sorting by Subject line and deleting entire threads is what i tend > to have to do with this list; sadly, i have to do more of it for this > list than any other i've ever seen. the Signal-to-Noise ratio here is > pitiful, but i keep sifting through it for the little gems of wisdom > that occasionally (albeit increasingly all too infrequently) come through. The 'old' banned list sent out 500 emails A DAY there were about 5 good ones. This list is doing much better. The whole subject line thing is pretty annoying though. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
Well, please do remember that there are pressure washers and then there are pressure washers. Most of the little ones will do no harm and may not even clean sufficiently to please you. The commercial ones may remove the paint from your car. I have one of the lesser models - 4HP B&S supposed to produce 1600# of pressure. Works OK but not likely to take the paint off. I would like to have a bigger and better one but likely would not use it to wash my car. I recall trying to clean grease off of an auto engine that I was rebuilding a few years ago. The pressure washer wasn't making much headway and I really wished I had more power to cut right through to the metal. I wouldn't have minded at all if it had removed the paint in that case. I also know someone who ran a mobile wash company for a while. They had pressure washers that used very hot water and some that mixed in sand like a sandblaster. Those would clean anything and were mostly used in messy commercial cleanups. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On 7/16/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can't imagine anyone with half a brain in their head >> getting a pressure washer anywhere near a car. >> >> Dan >> > > I thought it was the American way to use a pressure washer on anything > you can't clean with a leafblower. > > Alex A leaf blower and a fire hose! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
I don't mean to sound cheeky, but how about offering some on topic pearls of wisdom to keep the rest of us amused? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? people that use an e-mail list to "get to know" people don't understand the concept of what an e-mail list is for, and/or haven't played enough e-mail to understand how quickly it makes a topic-specific list useless. want to socialize through a computer? that's what IM programs and Chat Rooms are for! so bored that you rely on an e-mail list for your entertainment? short of getting a real life, try browsing through the many web forums available on the 'net; odds are if a lists activity is your idea of entertaining, you shouldn't find it too difficult to find something that will help you keep yourself entertained. sorting by Subject line and deleting entire threads is what i tend to have to do with this list; sadly, i have to do more of it for this list than any other i've ever seen. the Signal-to-Noise ratio here is pitiful, but i keep sifting through it for the little gems of wisdom that occasionally (albeit increasingly all too infrequently) come through. the fact that so many here don't seem to be able to change a Subject Line to something relevant to the topic being discussed only makes it more difficult to sift through the substantial chaff here, and only make it harder to glean any relevant info for themselves or others. cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
people that use an e-mail list to "get to know" people don't understand the concept of what an e-mail list is for, and/or haven't played enough e-mail to understand how quickly it makes a topic-specific list useless. want to socialize through a computer? that's what IM programs and Chat Rooms are for! so bored that you rely on an e-mail list for your entertainment? short of getting a real life, try browsing through the many web forums available on the 'net; odds are if a lists activity is your idea of entertaining, you shouldn't find it too difficult to find something that will help you keep yourself entertained. sorting by Subject line and deleting entire threads is what i tend to have to do with this list; sadly, i have to do more of it for this list than any other i've ever seen. the Signal-to-Noise ratio here is pitiful, but i keep sifting through it for the little gems of wisdom that occasionally (albeit increasingly all too infrequently) come through. the fact that so many here don't seem to be able to change a Subject Line to something relevant to the topic being discussed only makes it more difficult to sift through the substantial chaff here, and only make it harder to glean any relevant info for themselves or others. cheers! e Allan Streib wrote: > There has been a lot. I think it adds a dimension of getting to > "know" people, as much as that's possible over email, but see how it > could be annoying to someone on Digest mode or only checking > periodically. > > If you have an email reader that can group messages by thread it's > pretty easy to kill threads that are not interesting or have wandered > off topic. But not all email readers do that well. > > "Walt Lasher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material >> here on the list? Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? >> > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter
LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IIRC there should be a copper washer on the hollow > bolt. Is there normally a replacement with the new filter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
Hey that's a heck of a lot better odds than the Powerball. "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes-It's Carriage House MB, and the art museum in New London CT. They are > selling 600 chances for $65.00 each. I saw the car-it's showroom-I fell for > it. Will have to skip Powerball for a few weeks if I don't win it. If I do > win it, I will have to get a diesel scented air freshener. > Dwight > > http://www.lymanallyn.org/gala/index.html -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaking fuel filter
IIRC there should be a copper washer on the hollow bolt. Dan --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday I changed my in-line and spin-on fuel > filters on the 300D, > and today when I approached the car I detected the > aroma of -- no, not > soybean oil or rancid french fries -- Diesel fuel. > > Checking the filters, there was fuel seeping out > around the big center > bolt on the spin-on filter. I tightened it a bit > more, and will keep > an eye on it. Is there any gasket or washer there > that should be > replaced as part of the filter change? There were > none in the box > with the new filter. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] leaking fuel filter
On Sunday I changed my in-line and spin-on fuel filters on the 300D, and today when I approached the car I detected the aroma of -- no, not soybean oil or rancid french fries -- Diesel fuel. Checking the filters, there was fuel seeping out around the big center bolt on the spin-on filter. I tightened it a bit more, and will keep an eye on it. Is there any gasket or washer there that should be replaced as part of the filter change? There were none in the box with the new filter. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
Yes-It's Carriage House MB, and the art museum in New London CT. They are selling 600 chances for $65.00 each. I saw the car-it's showroom-I fell for it. Will have to skip Powerball for a few weeks if I don't win it. If I do win it, I will have to get a diesel scented air freshener. Dwight http://www.lymanallyn.org/gala/index.html Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? somebody is raffling off an 85 SL? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? > OK_ I bought a raffle ticket on an 85-so I am all set-IF I win the raffle > of > course. > > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > 1979 240D-250K + miles > 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles > Wickford, RI > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:10 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? > > 81-83 US version had single row, 84-85 had double. All euros had double. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 PP Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? > > >> Which years had single row? Or do you tell another way? >> >> Dwight E. Giles, Jr. >> 1979 240D-250K + miles >> 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles >> Wickford, RI >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:17 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? >> >>> <<"There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual >>> arousal, >>> particularly in women. Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL >>> convertible.">> >>> >> Not if it had the single-row cam chain. >> >> RLE >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
I think what happens is that when the list is slow, we make up other things to post about. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? Walt, I have thought that lately, too. I was away for 4 days and had 400 messages form list this AM-Must have been over half OT as I worked the delete key. IMHO Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Lasher Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:17 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material here on the list? Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? Walt Lasher W140 S350 Seattle -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2932 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070717/23e d5dcc/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
There has been a lot. I think it adds a dimension of getting to "know" people, as much as that's possible over email, but see how it could be annoying to someone on Digest mode or only checking periodically. If you have an email reader that can group messages by thread it's pretty easy to kill threads that are not interesting or have wandered off topic. But not all email readers do that well. "Walt Lasher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material > here on the list? Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
without the OT stuff, it would get mighty boring. That is what the delete button is for. If really want to see alot of OT stuff, that is really stupid OT, try the hitler list. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Walt Lasher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes List" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? > Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material > here on the list? > Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? > > Walt Lasher > W140 S350 > Seattle > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: winmail.dat > Type: application/ms-tnef > Size: 2932 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070717/23ed5dcc/attachment.bin > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
somebody is raffling off an 85 SL? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? > OK_ I bought a raffle ticket on an 85-so I am all set-IF I win the raffle > of > course. > > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > 1979 240D-250K + miles > 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles > Wickford, RI > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:10 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? > > 81-83 US version had single row, 84-85 had double. All euros had double. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 PP Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? > > >> Which years had single row? Or do you tell another way? >> >> Dwight E. Giles, Jr. >> 1979 240D-250K + miles >> 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles >> Wickford, RI >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:17 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant? >> >>> <<"There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual >>> arousal, >>> particularly in women. Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL >>> convertible.">> >>> >> Not if it had the single-row cam chain. >> >> RLE >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
yes, the so-dimm will fit just fine I used a 256 133 in my wallstreet and the moved it to the TiBook On Jul 17, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > I have no idea what a pismo is or a lombard > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 PP Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:26 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] vista > > >> god, i gotta start paying attention. >> >> any of you guys know if pismo ram works on a lombard? >> >> i showed the lombard i'm giving my mom to my kid. it is os 9 , >> 4.5 gig >> drive and 64 meg ram. my 10 year old gave me the look of "you >> gotta be >> kidding" and then explained how we can't give gramma this POSso i >> figure >> i'll take the hd and some ram off my pismo, but i don't know if >> the ram >> will >> work. >> >> On 7/17/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Gary Hurst wrote: i thought you worked in a pen keeping retards calm? >>> >>> Wrong Don >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
Walt, I have thought that lately, too. I was away for 4 days and had 400 messages form list this AM-Must have been over half OT as I worked the delete key. IMHO Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Lasher Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:17 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material here on the list? Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? Walt Lasher W140 S350 Seattle -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2932 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070717/23e d5dcc/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: PDF spam
I was helping my mom get her computer updated and switched her over to Firefox and Thunderbird, so she could reduce the amount of ED spam. Found about five PDF spams that I just deleted instead of finding out which trojan horse they contained. clay On Jul 17, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > Is anyone else being flooded with spam email containing PDF > attachments? This has started hitting me over the past week or so and > seems to be something new. Is there a PDF vulnerability that was just > discovered? > > Of course I don't open them... > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
R A Bennell wrote: > > I really doubt that moving the shafts with a big wrench or pliers is a good > idea. I think that a bit of wiggling > should get it back where it was without further harm. That was my thought. The one that moves when the shifter goes forward and back may have to be in neutral before the other one can be moved. I doubt it's possible to engage two forward gears, but I bet you can engage forward and reverse together. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Way too much OT?
Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material here on the list? Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? Walt Lasher W140 S350 Seattle -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2932 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070717/23ed5dcc/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
