Re: [MBZ] Steering Wheel LOCKED

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 8/17/2007 1:41:39 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This  started with my "Key won't turn" message from a week ago.  I did   
manage to get the lock cylinder out of my 83 240D and I replaced it   
with a new one from the dealer. It worked fine for one day.  Now  it  
has locked up again, which makes me think that the steering wheel  lock  
is at fault.  Has anyone fixed one of these?  I was  told to oil it  
with the cylinder out but if something is really  wrong with the lock  
that would only be a temporary fix. (I did spray  some WD40 in, didn't  
work) What do I try next? Any ideas? (key  cylinder is now out)
Thank you,



John,
 
Did you pull really hard left and right on the steering wheel while trying  
to release the ignition lock?  If your front wheels are up against a curb  you 
may even have to jack the car up to take the pressure off the steering so  the 
lock can release.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 267 K miles 
98 ML 320, 151 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] 240D Noise

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 8/17/2007 11:00:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

A  few weeks ago I asked about a fan like noise I hear from the drivers 
seat  side only.  It doesn;t start until 25-30mph and is like a large fan.  
Not a rough, rumbling or gritty noise - very smooth as if there were a  
turbine under the hood.  (I wish!)



I am betting it is a hole in the top of the muffler..You will likely see  
some heating in the trunk, under the mat.  But feel carefully with a thick  
glove 
 

Jim  Friesen
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Redghost]

Phallus  -- Turgid phalli


On 17 Aug 2007, at 19:13, Tom Hargrave wrote:

> Penis.
>
> OK, I said it
>
> Maybe we can all hold cyber hands and say it together and get over  
> this
> phobia.
>
> We can work on the v word next week.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 256-656-1924
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Hendrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: 8/17/07 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks
> who love guns
>
> Oooh my, I own a  SBU which eats hummers for breakfast, guess that  
> means
>
> I must have a weeny teeny weiner (is that OK to say?)
> Watch your language, grandma is reading this stuff.
>
> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>> I disagree, Kevin. We've had complaints about extended oil threads,
>> political threads, etc. ... And last time I checked, "p**is" was a
> valid
>> dictionary word.
>>
>> But perhaps I am going off half-co**ed.
>>
>> As for "the bigger your gun the smaller your p**is" thing -- sort of
>> parallels the guys who buy an Hummer.
>>
>> But then again, I own a 240D.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Redghost]

Well, as long as the term is not used in a sexual manner, but as a  
descriptive, it should pass the censors.  At least that is how one  
can use the common term for fornication (once) and still retain a PG  
rating for a movie in the good ole USA.

Heaven forbid we should acknowledge our baser nature, but feel free  
to blow the feces out of anybody or thing.  That is just good fun,  
where procreation is sacred.  Except for those in religious orders,  
then it is fun, and a sin.



On 17 Aug 2007, at 18:56, Hendrik wrote:

> You would be well advised not to read my posts if you don't have a  
> sense
> of humor and a strong stomach.
> After all what offends you may have some else laughing. That is the
> nature of humor, attempted or otherwise.
> And no I am not going to apologize, I did not aim that cheap shot (pun
> intended) at anyone in particular and you know what they say about  
> shoes
> fitting...
> I am not going to go into the whole Freudian thing but it is a well
> documented fact that men compensate for their imagined lack of  
> manhood.
> Some invade Poland, some buy sports cars and some do supposedly macho
> things like collecting and using powerful firearms.
> I was going to go in further detail but it seems I am not allowed  
> to use
> words like pe**s or heavens forbid should I use the v word. You know
> that dictionary is full of sinful words, how did it ever get past the
> censors?
> Anyway it just goes to prove what a sexual intercoursed up world we  
> live
> in, talk about guns and shooting things all you like but mention the
> human reproductive organs and you'll go straight to hell.
> Oooh no, now I've done it, I said s*xual in**rcourse, perhaps if I
> pretend to own lots of guns and like shooting dumb animals I may be
> forgiven.
> Better stop now or Kaleb will hit the big red button and perhaps shoot
> me just for good measure.
>
> Kevin wrote:
>> It's one thing to say "this is OT, can we take it elsewhere". It's
>> entirely another to take an intolerant cheap shot. All that does is
>> spawn animosity, and keep a bitter debate going.
>>
>> Not to mention, the mere mention of a certain five letter word you  
>> used
>> (regardless of the size, shape, texture, effectiveness, or whatnot)
>> would have got you poofed by Mr. Hankie on the other list.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:28:07AM +0930, Hendrik wrote:
>>
>>> I don't suppose you could set up a separate list so us non gun  
>>> freaks
>>> don't have to listen to you lot discuss which handgun kills better.
>>> Perhaps you could call it the
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt

[Redghost]

Brian,

JUST REPLACE IT.  Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can  
squeeze a few thousand more miles out.   I had an acura that said to  
change the belt at 90k.  It was not joking.  I made it to 91,231  
before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the  
top end.  Valves slapped all over the place.  Should have just gone  
in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k

clay



On 17 Aug 2007, at 18:23, Zoltan Finks wrote:

> The wife has a good question about our 2000 CRV that has just over  
> 100,000 mi.:
>
> She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is
> there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the
> engine?
>
> And
>
> I know that on old V8 engines with timing chains the engine starts
> acting up when the chain is getting to be stretched. But with belts,
> do they just up and break one day without warning?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] FS: 12" PowerBook G4 1GHz, 768 RAM, 40G HD, Combo, AP & B

[Redghost]

My 550mhz TiBook runs 10.4.10 just fine with only 512mb.  I would be  
willing to upgrade to this 12" PB, but need the funds to get Gump out  
of hock with her new transmission.



On 17 Aug 2007, at 18:08, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> On 8/17/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Someone on my Mac forum has the machine above listed
>> for sale for $450 with the original box and packaging
>> - battery shows 93% left.  Not a bad deal for a 12"
>> PB, and it's a fairly late model one as they go.
>>
>
> With a little more RAM, that will run OS X quite handily for casual
> use.  My day-to-day machine for web surfing, email, and a little
> Photoshop is a G4/1.2 Ghz with 1.5 Gb.  See no need to replace it yet
> even though next year it'll be 10 years old.
>
> Alex



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Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law

[Redghost]

Open season varmint permit


On 17 Aug 2007, at 17:27, Fmiser wrote:

> It seems than at Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:38:08 -0500, Tom wrote:
>
>> And the raccoon's reaction was?
>
> My recent problem is not raccoons. When the corn patch was
> demolished, I presumed that what was causing it.
>
> But it saw the culprit yesterday. Out and about in the heat of
> the day.
>
> Any guesses as to what's been wrecking my corn, eating my
> tomatoes, munching on cucumbers, and grazing on sweet potatoes?
>
> Scroll down for the answer.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A woodchuck!! The little bugger!
>
> --Philip
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[MBZ] Subject: OT: Motorcycle electrics

[Michael C Boerner]

Curt,
Never seen the alternator on a motorcycle, but a stator should be a stator.
It's just a stationary winding, connected to the battery (via a
rectifier/diode in your case), that has current induced in it by the
magnetic field produced by the energized (via brushes) rotor.  Bad, short,
worn, shorted, burnt or disconnected (from battery power) brushes mean that
no energy gets to the rotor, which is then unable to induce current in the
stator windings to charge the battery.  Replacing brushes should fix it,
unless you've fried, shorted or damaged the stator windings.  I'd start with
brushes.  If that doesn't get it, you need better troubleshooting procedures
and understanding of the charging system (alternator/generator/magneto)
before throwing money at the problem.  I'm sure a stator somewhere,
sometime, has gone open, and that one has also shorted out, but I'm pretty
sure either of those failures is a rarity.  Brushes and bearings wear out,
diodes fail (making some noise), and regulators burn up, but rotor and
stator windings take some serious effort and abuse to kill.  Good luck

Mike Boerner
87 300d 140k
87 300sdl 130k


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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Zoltan Finks]

Wow. I didn't think it was that uncommon to lie underneath a vehicle
whilst it is jacked up and jack-standed. I spent much of my teen years
doing that. And in the desert on the ground at night it was
particularly unnerving to become aware of a Tarantula crawling toward
you under the car. Your head kinda bounces between the undercarriage
and the ground a few times before you drag yourself out from
underneath the car.

Then it's time for the either the WD40 or the carb cleaner and a lighter. Poof.

Brian

On 8/17/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [intolerant commentary deleted]
>
> Correct, just because something left the factory rated that way doesn't
> mean environmental conditions haven't weakened it. Also keep in mind that
> the smaller jackstands can shift and move. Make sure they are all level, and
> make sure they are in good condition before proceeding underneath.
>
> Lifted 4x4 300TDs are fine to crawl underneath, but if a 300SD comes off a
> jackstand on you, you are GOING to have a bad day. Also wise to make sure
> you have someone that can hear you scream in case it falls on you, provided
> you survive the initial THWACK.
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:56:36AM +0930, Hendrik wrote:
> > Not really, they are safety rated but if they have gone rusty..
> > Anyway, a while back I bought a pair of 5 tonne rated stands and they
> > are the ducks guts when compared to the pissy cheaper stands that I used
> > to use.
> > On the cheaper ones the car can be rocked a little bit but the car is
> > solid as rock on the 5 tonne ones.
> >
> > Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > > Actually I have a set of jack stands that I bought at Autozone
> > > probably a dozen years ago for cheap. I am assuming that it's pretty
> > > hard to build a faulty jackstand though?
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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Zoltan Finks]

Growing up in Tucson, I recognize the sound of an A-10. They're a
fixture in the skies there. The Warthog with the titanium bathtub for
the pilot. And yes, the gatlin gun on the front is great - meant to
take out tanks. Oh, I guess it is named Tank Killer too, isn't it?.

Anybody ever see the great big boneyard there? Kinda cool.

Brian

On 8/17/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Never got stick time in one but sure wish I had. Hell, I'd have almost
> volunteered to kill vs. my 20 years SAR if I could have pulled the trigger
> in an A-10. The A-10 is the combat cousin of what I flew in (Goat) -- old,
> slow, laughed-at, and indestructible.
>
> The A-10 and the Goat are the 240D of the aviation world.
>
> On 8/17/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 15W-50 has worked for me in Florida for as long as
> > I've been here and owned MBs.  Even in "winter" (and I
> > use that term loosely) it's still within the rated
> > temperature range.
> >
> > How's about a 20mm cannon from the nose of an A-10
> > behind the grille?
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > --- Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yea, that's worked well for me for the last several
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Now, if I could just find a way to turn my trident
> > > hood ornament into a gun
> > > sight.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/17/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500 "Wonko the
> > > Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
> > > >
> > > > Being the first to reply, I'll say 15W-50. That
> > > works just great.
> > > >
> > > > Now there are probably newer M1 oils that others
> > > will suggest, but this is
> > > > the old standby.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory now guns and the law

[Gary Hurst]

i once got lured into an amway pitch and was stunned by what i was hearing.
this was over 20 years ago and i guess was young and naive then.

On 8/17/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Agreed. If it was all diesel, we'd be on "the other" list.
>
> Now, let me tell you about the benefits of Amway.
>
> On 8/17/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Oh well, it gets boring if all we talk about is klatta, klatta, klatta
> > (from
> > a diesel, not a machine gun).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > www.kegkits.com
> > 256-656-1924
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Donald Snook
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:48 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory now guns and the law
> >
> > I had no idea the discussion I would unleash when I mentioned guns. I am
> > not even a gun owner.  I keep a nine iron near the bed.  Just in case I
> > need to defend myself in the middle of the night or hit a high fade from
> > 130 yards out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like we have a lot of gun enthusiasts on here.   Let's hope you
> > all don't get together with the drinking at work crowd and go hunting.
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Donald H. Snook
> >
> > 1990 300SEL 139K (For Sale)
> >
> > my house is for sale, too. Anyone want to move to Wichita?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law

[Wonko the Sane]

I have this nagging suspicion that every one of you Rambo types would take a
homeless squirrel to PETA before you'd shoot it.

There isn't six ounces of balls in the entire lot of you.

D.


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>
> > > There is a solution - "Bang".
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > www.kegkits.com
>
> Rick added:
> > I live inside of city limits so I use CB caps (.22 short?) and they WILL
> > drop a woodchuck. They are sub-sonic I believe and make little noise. I
> > don't need the constable snooping around because of the sound of gun
> fire.
>
> I could use dynamite out here - but while it wouldn't attract
> any attention, it _would_ make a bigger mess than the woodchuck
> is making!
>
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Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law

[Fmiser]

> > There is a solution - "Bang".
> >
> > Tom
> > www.kegkits.com

Rick added:
> I live inside of city limits so I use CB caps (.22 short?) and they WILL 
> drop a woodchuck. They are sub-sonic I believe and make little noise. I 
> don't need the constable snooping around because of the sound of gun fire.

I could use dynamite out here - but while it wouldn't attract
any attention, it _would_ make a bigger mess than the woodchuck
is making!

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Hendrik]

Hmmnh, seems I was wrong
http://tripcart.typepad.com/tripcart_the_blog/images/2007/04/01/guns_on_planes_by_nicky_pallas_at_f.jpg

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> The fact you're in freekin' Australia doesn't hurt when it comes to the
> shooting, does it?
>
> Even a 45 doesn't have that range.
>
> :-)
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Wonko the Sane]

My only serious comment in this discussion. I haveguns by proxy, and they
are in the possession of our town's law enforcement officers. Some, such as
Kleb, live where it might take law enforcement a hour to respond (he lives
way out in the sticks). For me, and this is not a guess but from
observation, there is normally less than 90 seconds between a 911 call on
the radio to the officers being on-scene. (I have a scanner because of my
job.)

I live in a small town. At full throttle, the cops could go from end to end
in about five minutes. I feel protected. We have very few drug crazed
crazies out wandering the neighborhood -- in fact, 99% of them are on my
case load at work!

For those of you who feel you must pack heat to get thru the day, I have but
two things to say:

1. Practice gun safety.

2. Freekin' move! Whatever it is you do for a living, you can do it in a
safer environment.

D.


On 8/17/07, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, I'm also one of those people with guns, and I'm perfectly willing to
> use them, under very very very limited circumstances.  But, this topic has
> run its course, and isn't productive or insightful.
>
> On 8/17/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > You wanna be careful, remember these are people with guns we are
> > stirring up. I am pretty safe cause these days getting a shooter on a
> > plane is way hard and unless I stirred them up so much that they are
> > gonna row across the pond, I should be safe. You however may live next
> > door to one of our dear
> > Imgoonashootanyonewhocomesthroughthatdoorevenifitismydrunkson aka shoot
> > first think later type of listers.
> >
> >
> Casey
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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:21:35 -0700 (PDT), LWB250 wrote:

> How's about a 20mm cannon from the nose of an A-10
> behind the grille?

I read a book about those A-10s. Seem the airframe was built
around the size and shape of the Gatling gun cannon!

So it would probably be to big.

Unless you have a new Sprinter van...

Aagh! It wouldn't work. The hood ornament is too low on those!

-- Philip, kinda fond of the ugly A-10

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Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:46:24 -0500, Tom wrote:

> There is a solution - "Bang".

Yup.

But I don't usually carry the rifle or bow every time I step out
of the house.

So one day soon I'll be waiting.

*evil grin*

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Zeitgeist]

Well, I'm also one of those people with guns, and I'm perfectly willing to
use them, under very very very limited circumstances.  But, this topic has
run its course, and isn't productive or insightful.

On 8/17/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You wanna be careful, remember these are people with guns we are
> stirring up. I am pretty safe cause these days getting a shooter on a
> plane is way hard and unless I stirred them up so much that they are
> gonna row across the pond, I should be safe. You however may live next
> door to one of our dear
> Imgoonashootanyonewhocomesthroughthatdoorevenifitismydrunkson aka shoot
> first think later type of listers.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Hendrik]

But are we allowed to discuss the p thingy and the various sizes thereof?
Another related question, do they make genuine gun racks for Mercs. I 
reckon that would be way cool a T with a gun rack.
I have noticed that the gloveboxes on Mercs seem to be too small to hold 
a real handgun, what is the solution there?
However the sunroofs are a nice size and just the go for that drive by 
shooting or hunting in the national park.

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> I have no intention of setting up another list.  Everytime there is a 
> long off topic thread come up, somebody gripes about it.  It has been 
> mentioned many times that off topic is just fine.  It would get rather 
> boring talking only about Mercedes all the time.  Hit delete if you do 
> not want to follow the thread.
>
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Wonko the Sane]

The fact you're in freekin' Australia doesn't hurt when it comes to the
shooting, does it?

Even a 45 doesn't have that range.

:-)

On 8/17/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You wanna be careful, remember these are people with guns we are
> stirring up. I am pretty safe cause these days getting a shooter on a
> plane is way hard and unless I stirred them up so much that they are
> gonna row across the pond, I should be safe. You however may live next
> door to one of our dear
> Imgoonashootanyonewhocomesthroughthatdoorevenifitismydrunkson aka shoot
> first think later type of listers.
>
> Zeitgeist wrote:
> > Yeah, I'm with Hendrik on this.  If ya'll want to continue sharing your
> > favorite misanthropic fantasies, then Kaleb should create a nifty
> kill-zone
> > space for this little peculiarity.  Otherwise, let's not kill so much
> > bandwidth on this bizarre non-Mercedes inanity.
> >
> >
> > Casey
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Hendrik]

You wanna be careful, remember these are people with guns we are 
stirring up. I am pretty safe cause these days getting a shooter on a 
plane is way hard and unless I stirred them up so much that they are 
gonna row across the pond, I should be safe. You however may live next 
door to one of our dear 
Imgoonashootanyonewhocomesthroughthatdoorevenifitismydrunkson aka shoot 
first think later type of listers.

Zeitgeist wrote:
> Yeah, I'm with Hendrik on this.  If ya'll want to continue sharing your
> favorite misanthropic fantasies, then Kaleb should create a nifty kill-zone
> space for this little peculiarity.  Otherwise, let's not kill so much
> bandwidth on this bizarre non-Mercedes inanity.
>
>
> Casey
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Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory now guns and the law

[Wonko the Sane]

Agreed. If it was all diesel, we'd be on "the other" list.

Now, let me tell you about the benefits of Amway.

On 8/17/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh well, it gets boring if all we talk about is klatta, klatta, klatta
> (from
> a diesel, not a machine gun).
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Donald Snook
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:48 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory now guns and the law
>
> I had no idea the discussion I would unleash when I mentioned guns. I am
> not even a gun owner.  I keep a nine iron near the bed.  Just in case I
> need to defend myself in the middle of the night or hit a high fade from
> 130 yards out.
>
>
>
> Sounds like we have a lot of gun enthusiasts on here.   Let's hope you
> all don't get together with the drinking at work crowd and go hunting.
> :-)
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
> 1990 300SEL 139K (For Sale)
>
> my house is for sale, too. Anyone want to move to Wichita?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Zeitgeist]

Normally, my libertarian tendencies find this approach perfectly
acceptable...but, this has gone on for far too long, and with way too much
digression.   There are probably five or six different threads going now
with nifty tips for killing your fellow man attached--that's seriously wack
shit.  You have a responsibility to rein in this silliness, and get folks
back to some semblance of on-topic discussion.   Please do it, for the good
of the order.


On 8/17/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have no intention of setting up another list.  Everytime there is a
> long off topic thread come up, somebody gripes about it.  It has been
> mentioned many times that off topic is just fine.  It would get rather
> boring talking only about Mercedes all the time.  Hit delete if you do
> not want to follow the thread.
>

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Chuck Landenberger]

Hey, Don...

Reminds of this:

It is far better to be of high caliber, than just a large  
bore..!

Have a good weekend.  Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Aug 17, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:

> Yea. Good idea. Guy with the biggest caliber wins something. Maybe  
> Davide
> will be judge and prize-awarder.
>
> On 8/17/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you could call it the
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory now guns and the law

[archer]

Tampa (and Florida) seem to be the southern home of freakdom.  Last weekend 
there was a freaks convention there:

"CONVENTION A PLACE TO FEEL AT HOME WITH FETISH
Fans, usually well-off professionals, spend big bucks on leather, latex,
fishnets and fantasies.
When a bearded man in his 50s walks by wearing purple tights and high heels,
you know you're not at a mortgage brokers' convention.
It started Friday and continues all weekend. It's expected to draw maybe
2,500 people, most of them Floridians with fat wallets.
Held annually in Tampa for four years now, it's basically a social event and
sexed-up trade show aimed at a very specific market.
There are big bucks in this particular slice of subculture. The outfits and
gear are pricey. The consumers tend to be well-heeled professionals who are
fiercely devoted to their kink.
"It is the great secret of the suburbs. The perception is that it's the
fringe people. But it's the well-to-do, the upper middle class, who can
afford to have that fantasy playroom in the extra basement room or the
locked study," said a woman who goes by the name Midori.
People dress as horses. People lead each other around on leashes.
The convention is at the Hyatt Regency Tampa. FetishCon draws enthusiasts 
from all over the world, from as far away as Russia and Japan, although 
convention organizers say most are from Floridasnip
For the whole article go to: www.sptimes.com and type Mike Brassfield in 
"search"
..
A friend who drove by during last years convention said there were dozens of 
Mercedes in the parking lot.  (grin)
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Basically, just being in the Mercedes crowd makes you a freak. Then there
> are several sub freak catagories as well.
> Kaleb C. Striplin

> - Original Message - 
> From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Who knew the Mercedes crowd was filled with all these freaks...


>> On 8/17/07, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I had no idea the discussion I would unleash when I mentioned guns. I am
>>> not even a gun owner.  I keep a nine iron near the bed.  Just in case I
>>> need to defend myself in the middle of the night or hit a high fade from
>>> 130 yards out.

>>> Sounds like we have a lot of gun enthusiasts on here.   Let's hope you
>>> all don't get together with the drinking at work crowd and go hunting. 
>>> :-)
>> Casey 


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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Wonko the Sane]

I think "pull the trigger" to delete would have been funnier, but I know
what you are saying.

And that is what I do.

On 8/17/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have no intention of setting up another list.  Everytime there is a
> long off topic thread come up, somebody gripes about it.  It has been
> mentioned many times that off topic is just fine.  It would get rather
> boring talking only about Mercedes all the time.  Hit delete if you do
> not want to follow the thread.
>
> Zeitgeist wrote:
> > Yeah, I'm with Hendrik on this.  If ya'll want to continue sharing your
> > favorite misanthropic fantasies, then Kaleb should create a nifty
> kill-zone
> > space for this little peculiarity.  Otherwise, let's not kill so much
> > bandwidth on this bizarre non-Mercedes inanity.
> >
> >
> > Casey
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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- set in stone

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

oh

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> What else is going on?  You mean the Apple Orchard Festival?  That is local
> folks.
> 
> On 8/17/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> so you are having an iowaQ the same weekend something else is going on.
>>   In other words, no motel rooms.  Besides, I thought we talked about
>> mid september?
>>
>> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>>> Jefferson, Iowa.
>>>
>>> Weekend of October 13-14th.
>>>
>>> Reservations suggested at Super-8 in Jefferson. If you want to camp,
>> email
>>> me off-list for info. It is close and very nice.
>>>
>>> Really-big-show at http://www.dealsorchard.com/fall_festival.html that
>>> weekend.
>>>
>>> Town info at http://www.jeffersoniowa.com/
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>>
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>>   94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D,
>>   90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>   81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have no intention of setting up another list.  Everytime there is a 
long off topic thread come up, somebody gripes about it.  It has been 
mentioned many times that off topic is just fine.  It would get rather 
boring talking only about Mercedes all the time.  Hit delete if you do 
not want to follow the thread.

Zeitgeist wrote:
> Yeah, I'm with Hendrik on this.  If ya'll want to continue sharing your
> favorite misanthropic fantasies, then Kaleb should create a nifty kill-zone
> space for this little peculiarity.  Otherwise, let's not kill so much
> bandwidth on this bizarre non-Mercedes inanity.
> 
> 
> Casey
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  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- set in stone

[Wonko the Sane]

What else is going on?  You mean the Apple Orchard Festival?  That is local
folks.

On 8/17/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so you are having an iowaQ the same weekend something else is going on.
>   In other words, no motel rooms.  Besides, I thought we talked about
> mid september?
>
> Wonko the Sane wrote:
> > Jefferson, Iowa.
> >
> > Weekend of October 13-14th.
> >
> > Reservations suggested at Super-8 in Jefferson. If you want to camp,
> email
> > me off-list for info. It is close and very nice.
> >
> > Really-big-show at http://www.dealsorchard.com/fall_festival.html that
> > weekend.
> >
> > Town info at http://www.jeffersoniowa.com/
> >
> > D.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- set in stone

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

so you are having an iowaQ the same weekend something else is going on. 
  In other words, no motel rooms.  Besides, I thought we talked about 
mid september?

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> Jefferson, Iowa.
> 
> Weekend of October 13-14th.
> 
> Reservations suggested at Super-8 in Jefferson. If you want to camp, email
> me off-list for info. It is close and very nice.
> 
> Really-big-show at http://www.dealsorchard.com/fall_festival.html that
> weekend.
> 
> Town info at http://www.jeffersoniowa.com/
> 
> D.
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Zeitgeist]

Yeah, I'm with Hendrik on this.  If ya'll want to continue sharing your
favorite misanthropic fantasies, then Kaleb should create a nifty kill-zone
space for this little peculiarity.  Otherwise, let's not kill so much
bandwidth on this bizarre non-Mercedes inanity.


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[MBZ] IowaQ date -- set in stone

[Wonko the Sane]

Jefferson, Iowa.

Weekend of October 13-14th.

Reservations suggested at Super-8 in Jefferson. If you want to camp, email
me off-list for info. It is close and very nice.

Really-big-show at http://www.dealsorchard.com/fall_festival.html that
weekend.

Town info at http://www.jeffersoniowa.com/

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks wholove guns

[Tom Hargrave]

So, are you bragging? Not that I want to know.

Thanks, Tom
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From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: 8/17/07 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks
wholove guns

I disagree, Kevin. We've had complaints about extended oil threads,
political threads, etc. ... And last time I checked, "penis" was a valid
dictionary word.

But perhaps I am going off half-cocked.

As for "the bigger your gun the smaller your penis" thing -- sort of
parallels the guys who buy an Hummer.

But then again, I own a 240D.

On 8/17/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's one thing to say "this is OT, can we take it elsewhere". It's
> entirely another to take an intolerant cheap shot. All that does is
> spawn animosity, and keep a bitter debate going.
>
> Not to mention, the mere mention of a certain five letter word you
used
> (regardless of the size, shape, texture, effectiveness, or whatnot)
> would have got you poofed by Mr. Hankie on the other list.
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:28:07AM +0930, Hendrik wrote:
> > I don't suppose you could set up a separate list so us non gun
freaks
> > don't have to listen to you lot discuss which handgun kills better.
> > Perhaps you could call it the
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Wonko the Sane]

I might suggest Viagra.

How old is Grandma?  She might be just the right age for some folks on this
list.

On 8/17/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oooh my, I own a  SBU which eats hummers for breakfast,
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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Wonko the Sane]

Not concerned.

On 8/17/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No, but it may DECREASE the SIZE of your penis!
>
> Luther
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Tom Hargrave]

Penis.

OK, I said it

Maybe we can all hold cyber hands and say it together and get over this
phobia.

We can work on the v word next week.

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Sent: 8/17/07 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks
who love guns

Oooh my, I own a  SBU which eats hummers for breakfast, guess that means

I must have a weeny teeny weiner (is that OK to say?)
Watch your language, grandma is reading this stuff.

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> I disagree, Kevin. We've had complaints about extended oil threads,
> political threads, etc. ... And last time I checked, "p**is" was a
valid
> dictionary word.
>
> But perhaps I am going off half-co**ed.
>
> As for "the bigger your gun the smaller your p**is" thing -- sort of
> parallels the guys who buy an Hummer.
>
> But then again, I own a 240D.
>   
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   

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[MBZ] OT: Motorcycle electrics v2

[Curt Raymond]

Forgot to mention the good side of this. Previously if I rode the bike in the 
rain the charging system would cut out. I now know thats because the gasket 
around the cover over the stator was half missing. Knowing that its surprising 
its survived this long.

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Re: [MBZ] Not in Kansas anymore ....

[Wonko the Sane]

Love the midwest. Prior to here, I was (working in reverse order) Jax FL,
DC, NYC, Boston.

My house is double Donald's and a triple lot, four car garage. $74K. So safe
we can go to work and leave the keys in the ignition (downtown Jefferson).

But, unless you are a doctor or an attorney (are you listening, Donald?) you
max out at $13/$15 an hour as management.

Attorneys here have it good. High percentage of population is 70+ and need
an attorney to do the probate. Good news: the attorneys only wear a tie when
going to court (limited to one day a week by calendar).
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[MBZ] OT: Motorcycle electrics

[Curt Raymond]

My Honda CB900f quit charging the battery. Thank goodness for a volt meter or I 
could have found myself out of luck somewhere...
Anyway my Haynes book has a pretty good proceedure for testing the 
rectifier/regulator which seems to test out good (very high resistance one way, 
very low the other). So I opened up the stator and find the brushes one of 
which seems very worn. With luck I'll head to the hardware store tomorrow and 
find a perfect replacement that'll fix everything. Otherwise I guess I'll order 
a new stator.
It's been suggested by somebody I somewhat trust (he's got a really nice shop 
and seems to know what he's talking about, and he's not trying to sell me 
anything) that I replace the rectifier/regulator at the same time.
Together they're about $250, the stator is $93 I think alone.
I'm thinking that the rectifier/regulator is easy enough to replace I might 
wait but then I'm a bit paranoid that if the 25 year old diodes give up the 
ghost it might fry the new stator.

Anybody have any thoughts?

Thanks

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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Luther]

No, but it may DECREASE the SIZE of your penis!

Luther

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:05:02 -0500, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Will using Truck hurt my radio?
>
> On 8/17/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
>> >
>> >
>



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Re: [MBZ] A-10 cannon

[RELNGSON]

<>

It's 30mm and what with the 90.5 inch barrel, it'll be a bit of a squeeze.

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Hendrik]

Oooh my, I own a  SBU which eats hummers for breakfast, guess that means 
I must have a weeny teeny weiner (is that OK to say?)
Watch your language, grandma is reading this stuff.

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> I disagree, Kevin. We've had complaints about extended oil threads,
> political threads, etc. ... And last time I checked, "p**is" was a valid
> dictionary word.
>
> But perhaps I am going off half-co**ed.
>
> As for "the bigger your gun the smaller your p**is" thing -- sort of
> parallels the guys who buy an Hummer.
>
> But then again, I own a 240D.
>   
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Wonko the Sane]

Will using Truck hurt my radio?

On 8/17/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Luther]

ROFLMAO!!!  This is the first post in this "saga" that I have read to the end.  
 Thanks for a good laugh!

Luther

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:56:22 -0500, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You would be well advised not to read my posts if you don't have a sense
> of humor and a strong stomach.
> After all what offends you may have some else laughing. That is the
> nature of humor, attempted or otherwise.
> And no I am not going to apologize, I did not aim that cheap shot (pun
> intended) at anyone in particular and you know what they say about shoes
> fitting...
> I am not going to go into the whole Freudian thing but it is a well
> documented fact that men compensate for their imagined lack of manhood.
> Some invade Poland, some buy sports cars and some do supposedly macho
> things like collecting and using powerful firearms.
> I was going to go in further detail but it seems I am not allowed to use
> words like pe**s or heavens forbid should I use the v word. You know
> that dictionary is full of sinful words, how did it ever get past the
> censors?
> Anyway it just goes to prove what a sexual intercoursed up world we live
> in, talk about guns and shooting things all you like but mention the
> human reproductive organs and you'll go straight to hell.
> Oooh no, now I've done it, I said s*xual in**rcourse, perhaps if I
> pretend to own lots of guns and like shooting dumb animals I may be
> forgiven.
> Better stop now or Kaleb will hit the big red button and perhaps shoot
> me just for good measure.
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Hendrik]

You would be well advised not to read my posts if you don't have a sense 
of humor and a strong stomach.
After all what offends you may have some else laughing. That is the 
nature of humor, attempted or otherwise.
And no I am not going to apologize, I did not aim that cheap shot (pun 
intended) at anyone in particular and you know what they say about shoes 
fitting...
I am not going to go into the whole Freudian thing but it is a well 
documented fact that men compensate for their imagined lack of manhood.
Some invade Poland, some buy sports cars and some do supposedly macho 
things like collecting and using powerful firearms.
I was going to go in further detail but it seems I am not allowed to use 
words like pe**s or heavens forbid should I use the v word. You know 
that dictionary is full of sinful words, how did it ever get past the 
censors?
Anyway it just goes to prove what a sexual intercoursed up world we live 
in, talk about guns and shooting things all you like but mention the 
human reproductive organs and you'll go straight to hell.
Oooh no, now I've done it, I said s*xual in**rcourse, perhaps if I 
pretend to own lots of guns and like shooting dumb animals I may be 
forgiven.
Better stop now or Kaleb will hit the big red button and perhaps shoot 
me just for good measure.

Kevin wrote:
> It's one thing to say "this is OT, can we take it elsewhere". It's 
> entirely another to take an intolerant cheap shot. All that does is 
> spawn animosity, and keep a bitter debate going.
>
> Not to mention, the mere mention of a certain five letter word you used
> (regardless of the size, shape, texture, effectiveness, or whatnot)
> would have got you poofed by Mr. Hankie on the other list.
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:28:07AM +0930, Hendrik wrote:
>   
>> I don't suppose you could set up a separate list so us non gun freaks 
>> don't have to listen to you lot discuss which handgun kills better.
>> Perhaps you could call it the 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Luther]

Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law

[Rick Knoble]

> There is a solution - "Bang".
>
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com

I live inside of city limits so I use CB caps (.22 short?) and they WILL 
drop a woodchuck. They are sub-sonic I believe and make little noise. I 
don't need the constable snooping around because of the sound of gun fire.

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Re: [MBZ] Not in Kansas anymore ....

[Curt Raymond]

I had an offer in Idaho once and seriously considered it Boisie is a nice town.
I might consider the bay area too but it'd have to be a big money job, thats a 
seriously expensive place to live.
Might consider a short term (6mo-1year) assignment in LA but I surely wouldn't 
live there long term.

Eventually I'd like to go back to northern Maine. Maybe work at the University 
in Presque Isle or Fort Kent. That area is in my blood.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:47:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not in  Kansas anymore 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Having been born and raised in the Midwest, I can say
that without living there it's tough to grasp the
attraction.  Suffice to say there is a "quality of
life" component that can't be explained, only
experienced.

I would consider going back to Wisconsin, but other
than that if I ever move it's going to be out west
somewhere.

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Wonko the Sane]

Is he related to South Park's Mr. Hand, or is that an oxymoron?

I feel song lyrics coming on but unfortunately this isn't Banned. Hank
rhymes with lots of words.

On 8/17/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> would have got you poofed by Mr. Hankie on the other list.
>
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Wonko the Sane]

I disagree, Kevin. We've had complaints about extended oil threads,
political threads, etc. ... And last time I checked, "penis" was a valid
dictionary word.

But perhaps I am going off half-cocked.

As for "the bigger your gun the smaller your penis" thing -- sort of
parallels the guys who buy an Hummer.

But then again, I own a 240D.

On 8/17/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's one thing to say "this is OT, can we take it elsewhere". It's
> entirely another to take an intolerant cheap shot. All that does is
> spawn animosity, and keep a bitter debate going.
>
> Not to mention, the mere mention of a certain five letter word you used
> (regardless of the size, shape, texture, effectiveness, or whatnot)
> would have got you poofed by Mr. Hankie on the other list.
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:28:07AM +0930, Hendrik wrote:
> > I don't suppose you could set up a separate list so us non gun freaks
> > don't have to listen to you lot discuss which handgun kills better.
> > Perhaps you could call it the
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law

[Wonko the Sane]

Anyone else read Michener's
*Chesapeake*?
Sort of reminds me of the Goose Guns.

On 8/17/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Back in the 1950s my father-in-law let me shoot a ten gauge that had been
> his fathers.  I shot the top out of a small tree with it.  My shoulder was
> sore for a week after that.  If I remember correctly he said they had used
> it to hunt deer when he was a kid.
> Gerry
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Kevin]

[intolerant commentary deleted]

Correct, just because something left the factory rated that way doesn't 
mean environmental conditions haven't weakened it. Also keep in mind that
the smaller jackstands can shift and move. Make sure they are all level, and
make sure they are in good condition before proceeding underneath.

Lifted 4x4 300TDs are fine to crawl underneath, but if a 300SD comes off a
jackstand on you, you are GOING to have a bad day. Also wise to make sure 
you have someone that can hear you scream in case it falls on you, provided
you survive the initial THWACK.

On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:56:36AM +0930, Hendrik wrote:
> Not really, they are safety rated but if they have gone rusty..
> Anyway, a while back I bought a pair of 5 tonne rated stands and they 
> are the ducks guts when compared to the pissy cheaper stands that I used 
> to use.
> On the cheaper ones the car can be rocked a little bit but the car is 
> solid as rock on the 5 tonne ones.
> 
> Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > Actually I have a set of jack stands that I bought at Autozone
> > probably a dozen years ago for cheap. I am assuming that it's pretty
> > hard to build a faulty jackstand though?

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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Wonko the Sane]

Never got stick time in one but sure wish I had. Hell, I'd have almost
volunteered to kill vs. my 20 years SAR if I could have pulled the trigger
in an A-10. The A-10 is the combat cousin of what I flew in (Goat) -- old,
slow, laughed-at, and indestructible.

The A-10 and the Goat are the 240D of the aviation world.

On 8/17/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 15W-50 has worked for me in Florida for as long as
> I've been here and owned MBs.  Even in "winter" (and I
> use that term loosely) it's still within the rated
> temperature range.
>
> How's about a 20mm cannon from the nose of an A-10
> behind the grille?
>
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yea, that's worked well for me for the last several
> > years.
> >
> > Now, if I could just find a way to turn my trident
> > hood ornament into a gun
> > sight.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/17/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500 "Wonko the
> > Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
> > >
> > > Being the first to reply, I'll say 15W-50. That
> > works just great.
> > >
> > > Now there are probably newer M1 oils that others
> > will suggest, but this is
> > > the old standby.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt

[Kevin]

On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 06:23:14PM -0700, Zoltan Finks wrote:
> The wife has a good question about our 2000 CRV that has just over 100,000 
> mi.:
> 
> She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is
> there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the
> engine?

Some do, some don't. Some Hondas use a belt, some are chain.
Yours seems to be a belt, and according to
http://www.samarins.com/reviews/cr-v.html
the interval is 105k. Check in your owner's manual or with your dealer.
02+ crv's are supposedly chain drive (from the same source).

A 91 jetta has an inspection cover, leave it to Ze Germans to think of
everything.

> I know that on old V8 engines with timing chains the engine starts
> acting up when the chain is getting to be stretched. But with belts,
> do they just up and break one day without warning?

Yes. And generally, they are interference engines, which makes the cost
of paying a shop $400 to swap the belt really nothing.

(Yes, I know some belt engines aren't interference, like a mercury lynx for
example.)

Also some of those v8s (like 380SL/SE/SEL) can have single row timing
chains that aren't known for just stretching - they can jump time and
cause as many problems as a shredded belt.

K

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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Hendrik]

Not really, they are safety rated but if they have gone rusty..
Anyway, a while back I bought a pair of 5 tonne rated stands and they 
are the ducks guts when compared to the pissy cheaper stands that I used 
to use.
On the cheaper ones the car can be rocked a little bit but the car is 
solid as rock on the 5 tonne ones.
However all this talk about axle stands is distracting the gun crowd 
from their little discussion.

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Actually I have a set of jack stands that I bought at Autozone
> probably a dozen years ago for cheap. I am assuming that it's pretty
> hard to build a faulty jackstand though?
>
> Brian
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law

[archer]

Back in the 1950s my father-in-law let me shoot a ten gauge that had been
his fathers.  I shot the top out of a small tree with it.  My shoulder was
sore for a week after that.  If I remember correctly he said they had used
it to hunt deer when he was a kid.
Gerry
---
- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I've read that back in the day intrepid frontersmen would shoot just in
> front of the nose of a squirrel with their .50 cal(or other large bore)
> muzzle loader. The squirrel would be killed by the shockwave as the bullet
> came by but no meat would be damaged.
> Dad and I tried it on several occasions but were never able to make it
> work. Of course we were limited in our shooting opportunities by limiting
> our selves to shots where we had an appropriate backstop. I'm sure the
> frontiersmen would shoot at squirrels up in a tree, devil may care where
> the bullet would land.
> No doubt similar effect is at work in the ER story.
> -Curt

> From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Years ago a man came into the ER who was missing the bottom half of his
> scrotum but his testicles were in good shape, hanging by the vein,
> artery,
> and spermatic cord.
> His girlfriends husband had caught them in bed, he raised up on his
> knees
> when the door flew open, and her husband shot between his legs with a
> .45
> cal pistol.
> A cop said the slug didn't hit his scrotum but that it had come close
> and
> that was enough to blow part of it off.
> It seemed unlikely at the time but since then I've seen what kind of
> damage
> a .45 slug can do.
> The doctor managed to sew what was left of the scrotum back around the
> testicles and in 24 hours the suture lines were healed.
> Gerry
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Kevin]

It's one thing to say "this is OT, can we take it elsewhere". It's 
entirely another to take an intolerant cheap shot. All that does is 
spawn animosity, and keep a bitter debate going.

Not to mention, the mere mention of a certain five letter word you used
(regardless of the size, shape, texture, effectiveness, or whatnot)
would have got you poofed by Mr. Hankie on the other list.

On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:28:07AM +0930, Hendrik wrote:
> I don't suppose you could set up a separate list so us non gun freaks 
> don't have to listen to you lot discuss which handgun kills better.
> Perhaps you could call it the 
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[MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt

[Zoltan Finks]

The wife has a good question about our 2000 CRV that has just over 100,000 mi.:

She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is
there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the
engine?

And

I know that on old V8 engines with timing chains the engine starts
acting up when the chain is getting to be stretched. But with belts,
do they just up and break one day without warning?

Thanks,
Brian

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[Wonko the Sane]

Does that include the hardware?

On 8/17/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I got a note from Small Dog today saying they had been
> authorized to start accepting pre-orders for OS X 10.5
> (Leopard).
>
> $119.00, I believe - they probably have it on their
> Web site.
>
> MacDan
>
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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[LWB250]

15W-50 has worked for me in Florida for as long as
I've been here and owned MBs.  Even in "winter" (and I
use that term loosely) it's still within the rated
temperature range.

How's about a 20mm cannon from the nose of an A-10
behind the grille?


Dan


--- Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yea, that's worked well for me for the last several
> years.
> 
> Now, if I could just find a way to turn my trident
> hood ornament into a gun
> sight.
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/17/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500 "Wonko the
> Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
> >
> > Being the first to reply, I'll say 15W-50. That
> works just great.
> >
> > Now there are probably newer M1 oils that others
> will suggest, but this is
> > the old standby.
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Hendrik]

Jack the front, there are brakes on the rear that work to stop the car 
rolling off the 'singular' jack stand.
I would advise that all your affairs are sorted and a will is made out.
Don't forget to check your flex discs and steering linkages, may pay to 
pull out the steering dampener and check it.

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Well, I suppose I was going to use a jack stand at least. That's about
> the best I can do.
>
> Also, yes, I was referring to doing a filter change. I just didn't
> know if - with pan removed - more fluid would be allowed to drain from
> somewhere in the tranny if the car was tilted one way versus the
> other.
>
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Wonko the Sane]

I was taught that just prior to getting my license in 1968. Still works, be
it a Ford or a Benz. Works in aircraft, too, but with different parameters.

On 8/17/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> But did you know that if you keep it sighted on the white line on the
> right side of the lane, you will track perfectly?
>



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Re: [MBZ] FS: 12" PowerBook G4 1GHz, 768 RAM, 40G HD, Combo, AP & B

[LWB250]

I got a note from Small Dog today saying they had been
authorized to start accepting pre-orders for OS X 10.5
(Leopard).

$119.00, I believe - they probably have it on their
Web site.

MacDan


--- Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 8/17/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Someone on my Mac forum has the machine above
> listed
> > for sale for $450 with the original box and
> packaging
> > - battery shows 93% left.  Not a bad deal for a
> 12"
> > PB, and it's a fairly late model one as they go.
> >
> 
> With a little more RAM, that will run OS X quite
> handily for casual
> use.  My day-to-day machine for web surfing, email,
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> Photoshop is a G4/1.2 Ghz with 1.5 Gb.  See no need
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> even though next year it'll be 10 years old.
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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Zoltan Finks]

Actually I have a set of jack stands that I bought at Autozone
probably a dozen years ago for cheap. I am assuming that it's pretty
hard to build a faulty jackstand though?

Brian

On 8/17/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or he could get some more axle stands and lift the whole car to check
> everything. I am assuming that axle stands will be used and not some
> dodgy method.
> How much are axle stands these days? Not bloody much when compared to
> the cost of your medical system over there.
>
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> > On 8/17/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:
> >>
> >> Since I only really have the ability to jack up one end of the
> >> vehicle, am I better off – in terms of maximum ATF drainage – jacking
> >> up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm assuming the rear is the
> >> answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Zoltan Finks]

Can't be done. It's too close to a peace sign.

But did you know that if you keep it sighted on the white line on the
right side of the lane, you will track perfectly?

Brian
just kidding

On 8/17/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yea, that's worked well for me for the last several years.
>
> Now, if I could just find a way to turn my trident hood ornament into a gun
> sight.
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> On 8/17/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
> >
> > Being the first to reply, I'll say 15W-50. That works just great.
> >
> > Now there are probably newer M1 oils that others will suggest, but this is
> > the old standby.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Hendrik]

Or he could get some more axle stands and lift the whole car to check 
everything. I am assuming that axle stands will be used and not some 
dodgy method.
How much are axle stands these days? Not bloody much when compared to 
the cost of your medical system over there.

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> On 8/17/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:
>>
>> Since I only really have the ability to jack up one end of the
>> vehicle, am I better off – in terms of maximum ATF drainage – jacking
>> up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm assuming the rear is the
>> answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.
>>
>> 
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] FS: 12" PowerBook G4 1GHz, 768 RAM, 40G HD, Combo, AP & B

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 8/17/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone on my Mac forum has the machine above listed
> for sale for $450 with the original box and packaging
> - battery shows 93% left.  Not a bad deal for a 12"
> PB, and it's a fairly late model one as they go.
>

With a little more RAM, that will run OS X quite handily for casual
use.  My day-to-day machine for web surfing, email, and a little
Photoshop is a G4/1.2 Ghz with 1.5 Gb.  See no need to replace it yet
even though next year it'll be 10 years old.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Name my Sprinter (was Re: I've gone and done it)

[Hendrik]

How about Adolf the Teutonic people mover.
Or Rommel the people box.
Then again given the size perhaps King tiger might be appropriate.

Fmiser wrote:
> Why all the German names?
>
> How 'bout something a bit different
>
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Wonko the Sane]

Yea. Good idea. Guy with the biggest caliber wins something. Maybe Davide
will be judge and prize-awarder.

On 8/17/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Perhaps you could call it the
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Re: [MBZ] [way off topic]now handguns & the law & the freaks who love guns

[Hendrik]

I don't suppose you could set up a separate list so us non gun freaks 
don't have to listen to you lot discuss which handgun kills better.
Perhaps you could call it the 
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> yea, I almost always just shoot .38 specials in my .357 when target 
> shooting.  Its currently loaded up with .357 mag right now as its sitting 
> under my bed.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Wonko the Sane]

Yea, that's worked well for me for the last several years.

Now, if I could just find a way to turn my trident hood ornament into a gun
sight.

:-)



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> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
>
> Being the first to reply, I'll say 15W-50. That works just great.
>
> Now there are probably newer M1 oils that others will suggest, but this is
> the old standby.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:24 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?

Being the first to reply, I'll say 15W-50. That works just great.

Now there are probably newer M1 oils that others will suggest, but this is
the old standby.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law

[Tom Hargrave]

There is a solution - "Bang".

Tom
www.kegkits.com
 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law
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It seems than at Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:38:08 -0500, Tom wrote:

> And the raccoon's reaction was?

My recent problem is not raccoons. When the corn patch was
demolished, I presumed that what was causing it.

But it saw the culprit yesterday. Out and about in the heat of
the day.

Any guesses as to what's been wrecking my corn, eating my
tomatoes, munching on cucumbers, and grazing on sweet potatoes?

Scroll down for the answer.










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[MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

[Wonko the Sane]

What weight of Mobil 1 should I use in my 240D?
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Re: [MBZ] Steering Wheel LOCKED

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:40:58 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I was told to oil it with the cylinder out but if something is really
> wrong with the lock that would only be a temporary fix. (I did spray
> some WD40 in, didn't work)

WD-40 is NOT lubrication oil! It could make things worse.


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[MBZ] FS: 12" PowerBook G4 1GHz, 768 RAM, 40G HD, Combo, AP & BT

[LWB250]

Someone on my Mac forum has the machine above listed
for sale for $450 with the original box and packaging
- battery shows 93% left.  Not a bad deal for a 12"
PB, and it's a fairly late model one as they go.

If you're interested drop me a note off list and I'll
put you in touch with the seller.

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Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:38:08 -0500, Tom wrote:

> And the raccoon's reaction was?

My recent problem is not raccoons. When the corn patch was
demolished, I presumed that what was causing it.

But it saw the culprit yesterday. Out and about in the heat of
the day.

Any guesses as to what's been wrecking my corn, eating my
tomatoes, munching on cucumbers, and grazing on sweet potatoes?

Scroll down for the answer.










A woodchuck!! The little bugger!

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Re: [MBZ] Not in Kansas anymore ....

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:42:55 -0700, Alex wrote:

> Nice place.  You Midwest guys don't know how good you have it.

Oh yes we do *grin*

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Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law

[Wonko the Sane]

Probably not -- Gary no doubt packs a small caliber "gun."

On 8/17/07, Chris Kueny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > i personally like big bore guns (ask some of the kids about my .454),
> but
> > carry a .380 in real life as the bigger guns just make my pants fall
> down
> > at
> > inopportune moments.
> >
> >
>
> Now THAT would stop an intruder immediately!
>
> Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns & the law

[Zeitgeist]

I'm pretty sure it's an inverse relationship--compensation, if you will.

On 8/17/07, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "where you don't want to deal with overpenetration."
>
> Freud is rolling over in his grave Laughing his butt off. I always knew
> there was a connection between guns and ..
>

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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Scott Ritchey]

I don't know about your 87, but I can drain the torque converter on my 79
and 82 models (123 and 126, respectively) and I believe jacking (with jack
stands) the front gives more room to train the TC.

Scott Ritchey

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Subject: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:

Since I only really have the ability to jack up one end of the
vehicle, am I better off - in terms of maximum ATF drainage - jacking
up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm assuming the rear is the
answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.

Talking about the 87 190D.

Brian

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts

[Redghost]

TiBook sold, TiBook parts sold, w116 tail lamps sold, eMac 700,  
6400/200, 9600/300


On 17 Aug 2007, at 14:52, Ed Booher wrote:

> On 8/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I wish my stuff would go through the roof.  I have been unloading mac
>> stuff and getting pennies for it.  At least it it leaving the house
>> and that makes SWMBA happy
>>
>> clay
>
> What are you ridding yourself of, Clay? Anything I need?
>
> Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Zoltan Finks]

Well, I suppose I was going to use a jack stand at least. That's about
the best I can do.

Also, yes, I was referring to doing a filter change. I just didn't
know if - with pan removed - more fluid would be allowed to drain from
somewhere in the tranny if the car was tilted one way versus the
other.

Brian
87 190D

On 8/17/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of course you will NOT be working UNDER the car with it supported by a
> jack, right?
>
> "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:
> >
> > Since I only really have the ability to jack up one end of the
> > vehicle, am I better off -- in terms of maximum ATF drainage --
> > jacking up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm assuming the
> > rear is the answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.
> >
> > Talking about the 87 190D.
> >
> > Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Allan Streib]

Of course you will NOT be working UNDER the car with it supported by a
jack, right?

"Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:
>
> Since I only really have the ability to jack up one end of the
> vehicle, am I better off -- in terms of maximum ATF drainage --
> jacking up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm assuming the
> rear is the answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.
>
> Talking about the 87 190D.
>
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law

[Chris Kueny]

> i personally like big bore guns (ask some of the kids about my .454), but
> carry a .380 in real life as the bigger guns just make my pants fall down 
> at
> inopportune moments.
>
>

Now THAT would stop an intruder immediately!

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Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns & the law

[John Freer]

"where you don't want to deal with overpenetration."

Freud is rolling over in his grave Laughing his butt off. I always knew
there was a connection between guns and ..



On 8/17/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is getting a little OT (unless you don't want to shoot the mercedes
> in the garage through the fireproof wall), but a .357 mag revolver can
> shoot
> a .38 special round, and a .44 mag can shoot a .44 special round.
>
> In addition, Glaser safety slugs (prefragmented bullets) work well in
> revolvers where you don't want to deal with overpenetration.
>
> If you're going to pull the trigger, make sure you know what's behind your
> target. It's surprising how this escapes a lot of people.
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 08:33:07AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
> > true.  If you hit somebody with a .357 or a .44 mag, and you live close
> to
> > another house, or perhaps in an apartment, it could go right thru the
> guy,
> > out the house, into the next house and hit somebody else.
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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Marshall Booth]

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:
> 
> Since I only really have the ability to jack up one end of the
> vehicle, am I better off – in terms of maximum ATF drainage – jacking
> up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm assuming the rear is the
> answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.
> 
> Talking about the 87 190D.

Since you have to remove the pan to change the filter (the filter really 
MUST be changed with the ATF change) it doesn't matter, but the drain 
plug is at the back and so I'd jack up the front of the car.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts

[Ed Booher]

On 8/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wish my stuff would go through the roof.  I have been unloading mac
> stuff and getting pennies for it.  At least it it leaving the house
> and that makes SWMBA happy
>
> clay

What are you ridding yourself of, Clay? Anything I need?

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Re: [MBZ] Dodge 600

[Gary Hurst]

the 600 looks like a mini 126 sec.  i drove one of those around forever.
crappy car, but simple and sound.

On 8/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>Why not just pry the name plate off someone else's 600 & Duct tape it to
> your Pinto wagon?>>
>
> Chrysler did that with a K-car. Same MB font on the back.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 8/17/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:
>
> Since I only really have the ability to jack up one end of the
> vehicle, am I better off – in terms of maximum ATF drainage – jacking
> up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm assuming the rear is the
> answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.
>

If you jack up the rear you can check the differential oil level while
you're at it.  (Always more pleasant when the fill hole is higher than
normal, so that it doesn't dribble all over as you remove the plug
[Actually I learned this lesson not from any Benzes but from my
Trooper (with four fill plugs to worry about on the bottom)]).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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Re: [MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[LWB250]

It doesn't matter, as you're dropping the pan, so the
angle won't matter.

Same with the torque converter.

Dan




--- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:
> 
> Since I only really have the ability to jack up one
> end of the
> vehicle, am I better off – in terms of maximum ATF
> drainage – jacking
> up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm
> assuming the rear is the
> answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.
> 
> Talking about the 87 190D.
> 
> Brian
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[MBZ] Jacking vehicle up to change ATF filter

[Zoltan Finks]

Okay, here's one of my famous basic questions:

Since I only really have the ability to jack up one end of the
vehicle, am I better off – in terms of maximum ATF drainage – jacking
up the front, or the rear of the vehicle? I'm assuming the rear is the
answer, but doesn't hurt to ask.

Talking about the 87 190D.

Brian

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: 240D Noise

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Larry,
Is the fan on when this happens? The fan in my 240d does this when the fan
is on high. 
Just a thought/shot
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI
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Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: 240D Noise

Waterpump?

To isolate the noise maybe remove the belt(s) and see if the noise goes
away.

Jim

> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [MBZ] 240D Noise
> 
> Howdy,
> A few weeks ago I asked about a fan like noise I hear from the drivers
> seat side only.  It doesn;t start until 25-30mph and is like a large fan.
> Not a rough, rumbling or gritty noise - very smooth as if there were a
> turbine under the hood.  (I wish!)
> 
> Anyway, suggested possibilities were the wheel bearings, and
> driveshaft.
> I check both without finding a problem,
> I didn't take then apart, but under braking the cars stops straight
> with
> hands off the s wheel - no heat from the wheel bearing caps - well, not
> none, but equal heat.
> 
> So, should I repack the front wheel bearings in case that's the
> problem?
> Also, when the rear w.brgs fail what are the symptoms?
> 
> The d-shaft is tight and turns smooth by hand.
> 
> The T-Converter doesn't fail does it?  Being hydraulic I would think they
> last forever.
> Thx
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] Not in Kansas anymore ....

[Luther]

Amen.  Ohio is NOT Midwest like most everyone thinks.
They do call Arkansas MidSouth.

Luther

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:45:24 -0500, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Curt wrote:
>
>
> "I was thinking the same thing but then I remembered, I've been to the
> midwest twice and HATED it both times. I spent 1 day in Minneapolis . .
> ."
>
>
> I know that Minneapolis is west of you and it is in the middle of the
> country if you measure only east to west, but as Midwesterner, I don't
> consider Minnesota to be Midwest.  I am sure not many would agree with
> my assessment, but I think the Midwest is Illinois, Indiana, Iowa,
> Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, and Oklahoma.  Michigan and Minnesota are
> the North to me, The Dakotas are the great plains, Ohio is something all
> to itself, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Kentucky are the South, Texas is
> practically its own country and is either part of the Deep South
> (eastern part) or the West. Everything west of Kansas is west.  There's
> also the Northeast, New England, the mid-atlantic, the south, the deep
> South and Alaska and Hawaii.  This is my definition, and probably most
> don't agree.
>
>
> I grew up in Missouri, New Jersey, and Mississippi.  The Midwest (my
> definition) fits me the best. But, my brother lives in the South
> (Memphis) and my parents live in Mississippi, so who knows. I bet most
> folks in MA would feel like a stranger in a strange land in Kansas (with
> apologies to Robert Heinlein).
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
> 1990 300SEL 139K
>



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'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
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Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law

[Tom Hargrave]

A slug is even better but the shotgun itself does not work so well in the
home. It's too long, bangs into things & can't be brought up or pointed as
fast as a handgun.

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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law

"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 45 ACP is a mean caliber. Shoot someone in his hand and you'll transfer
> enough energy to knock him down. There is nothing else out there that will
> do the same. The other caliber bullets all move too fast, even the 44
> caliber.

So, what about a slug in a 12 gauge?  Nearly .80 inches in diameter.
How do the velocities compare?

Allan
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: 240D Noise

[James Zavesky]

Waterpump?

To isolate the noise maybe remove the belt(s) and see if the noise goes
away.

Jim

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of LarryT
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:59 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] 240D Noise
> 
> Howdy,
> A few weeks ago I asked about a fan like noise I hear from the drivers
> seat side only.  It doesn;t start until 25-30mph and is like a large fan.
> Not a rough, rumbling or gritty noise - very smooth as if there were a
> turbine under the hood.  (I wish!)
> 
> Anyway, suggested possibilities were the wheel bearings, and
> driveshaft.
> I check both without finding a problem,
> I didn't take then apart, but under braking the cars stops straight
> with
> hands off the s wheel - no heat from the wheel bearing caps - well, not
> none, but equal heat.
> 
> So, should I repack the front wheel bearings in case that's the
> problem?
> Also, when the rear w.brgs fail what are the symptoms?
> 
> The d-shaft is tight and turns smooth by hand.
> 
> The T-Converter doesn't fail does it?  Being hydraulic I would think they
> last forever.
> Thx
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
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Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law

[Tom Hargrave]

The real issue today is misused drugs, which drive people to do incredibly
stupid things like steal my Harley Davidson Softtail. Two thieves were
backing the bike out of the garage when they were interrupted by my Wife.

And now here's the good part - They had no way of transporting the bike! And
how far do you suppose they would have been able to push a 750 pound
motorcycle???

"Stupid crack head" is more than just a slang phrase, it's a very accurate
description of a part of our society. At least I was not home when they
tried. If I were then they might have gotten blood on my motorcycle.

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] handguns & the law



Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
> And the raccoon's reaction was?

Whatever it was, it seemed to have left, quickly and quietly.

There was another time, I was about 14, my older brother and his girlfriend
were visiting from Virginia and sleeping downstairs in the family room.
They heard two guys talking outside. Five minutes later, father, myself,
brother, three shotguns and two dogs were out in the yard investigating. 
Thought we heard somebody fleeing through the woods out back, but didn't
try to chase them. 

My family lived in that house for 12 years, and it was never broken into. 
One time the tax assessor paid a surprise visit when nobody was home. 
When he scheduled a visit the next week, he wanted to know where the dog 
was that we kept in the garage. He asked this question while an 85lb GSP 
was sniffing his tires. When we told him we only had the one dog, I thought
for a minute he was going to climb on top of his truck. He said that when
he came the first time, the dog was trying to come through the 16x8' garage
door, and it was bowing out about a foot in the center. "Good boy!" was my
first thought. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts

[LWB250]

Sometimes that happens - I didn't check the new ones. 
Were they the same configuration?

Dan


--- Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Except I can get that same machine for only $999
> new. Is refurb worth
> $50? I haven't looked at the warranties, but a lot
> of the PC guys
> knock the warranty down to practically nothing on
> their refurbs.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On 8/16/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > IMHO, if you want the best $$ for your budget, buy
> a
> > MacBook refurb from the Apple Store online.  You
> can
> > get a heck of a deal and the machine is as-new
> with
> > all the latest software and full Apple warranty.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > Refurbished MacBook 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo -
> White
> > 13.3-inch glossy widescreen display
> > 1GB memory
> > 80GB hard drive
> > Combo drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
> > Built-in iSight camera
> >
> > $949.00
> >
> > MacDan
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Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy

[LWB250]

If you have one of the newer eTrex Vista Cxs, the
adapters are hard to find - I had the same problem.  I
also roasted my first one with a non-OEM adapter,
which Garmin gladly replaced, despite my truthfulness
in telling them what I was using.

Apparently there was an issue with a protection diode
whose blocking voltage wasn't high enough, and if you
unplugged the unit while it was powered up by an
external source, the spike could roast (short) the
diode.

They sent me a replacement within the week, and I
bought an OEM car adapter at the same time.  Haven't
had a problem since.

I really like my eTrex, ,especially for hiking, which
is what I bought it for.  I only wish I didn't have to
put my glasses on to read the screen...

Dan




--- Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> For turn by turn you're probably right but if you
> can read a map a $100 unit is PLENTY.
> I've got a Garmin E-Trex Legend that I really like.
> Its small, only has a few buttons, is easy on
> batteries and updates quickly.
> The only issue I have is Garmin seems to be dumber
> than a bag of hammers when it comes to selling
> accessories for it. The Legend that I have uses a
> different 12v power adapter than all the other Etrex
> units and its been hard to find one. Of course I
> haven't worked all that hard, it is easy on
> batteries and I use rechargables...
> 
> Once you go someplace and want to come home its easy
> to follow the reverse route but it doesn't give you
> turn by turn.
> 
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Name my Sprinter (was Re: I've gone and done it)

[LWB250]

I bought a 1962 300SE from the estate of a retired
nuclear physicist from Berkeley.  It had been in
storage in Colma, CA (the "city of the dead," if you
know the area) for a number of years, and when I got
to it the windows and glass had all been smashed out
of it due to vandals that had broken in to the
warehouse where it was stored.

The attorney for the estate told the family it was a
total loss, mainly because he call the local
$tealership and got prices on the glass.

I named it "Oppenheimer," mainly because I like the
guy and I thought it was appropriate, considering the
car's history.  It was the only car he ever
owned/drove, and he only drove it on weekends,
preferring to use the bus to get to/from campus.  I
met his daughter when I had it and she told me about
how anal the guy was about the car - she couldn't eve
roll down a window - he had to do it.

Heh.

I bought it for a song, called a glass guy in Redwood
City, whose dad just happened to have a plain Jane
230S that had been languishing next to the house in
Woodside.  Bought the 230S for pocket change and
swapped all the glass out (it's the exact same glass
as the 300SE) along with anything else I could strip
off of it that would fit the 300SE.

Had it trucked out here (Florida) and drove it for a
year until a guy in Colorado that had been bugging me
to sell it to him finally ponied up.  I got tired of
his calls, so one day when he called me I told him,
"It's yours for $8k," thinking that would be the end
of him.

Two days later I had a cashier's check from him in
FedEx.  His brother, who lived in Orlando, picked it
up from me then drove it out to Colorado.

This story gets even weirder

I just heard from him earlier this year.  He took it
to "some shop in Denver that's supposed to be the best
indy around" (yes, Ritter's place) and had the engine
rebuilt!  (This is an M180, which would cost a small
fortune to rebuild if the parts can be had at all.) 
The body and interior are all being redone as well.

Should be a nice car when he's done, but he'll have a
fortune in it.

Only air suspension Benz I ever owned, and it was a
blast to drive.  I love the Finnies and would love to
have another, but not a 300SE - that M180 scared the
heck out of me on the parts prices.

Only used Benz I ever made money on, if you don't
factor use into the equation.

Dan

--- Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:36:51 -0700 "Kevin Kraly"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Right now, I'm thinking of going with Klaus or
> Gustav. 
> 
> Heinrich
> Herman
> Igor
> Kleiner (a pun)
> Oskar
> Peter (pronounced pay-ter)
> Werner (pronounced vair-ner)
> 
> 
> 
> > We're leaving for Victoria, BC in an hour and a
> half, the van's first
> > road trip with many more to come.
> 
> Have a fun, safe trip!
> 
> 
> Craig
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