Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
This is more informative than you know. No, I haven't interacted with a chicken. And I suppose my gauge of whether I care about an animal's plight is how capable it is of suffering (at least as we know it). So if the chicken is a pretty mindless grunt creature then I feel less sympathy toward them and the handling they receive in order to fuel society's immense hunger for them. I see it like this: There has to be a line somewhere. It's different for each of us. Some folks are all broken up about the plight of every living creature except, let's say, spiders. Or maybe they feel sympathy for spiders, but not so much fleas and gnats. Or maybe they feel sympathy toward gnats but not so much for, I don't know, slugs, or tadpoles, or germs or something. So it's hypocritical for people to express sympathy for slaughtered chickens but not for the mosquito they swat off their arm. For me: I guess I draw the line where the animal actually suffers. But how do we really know if an animal suffers? We do not. So I figure let's use as needed, but husband as best we can, the animals we've been given. Truth told, I am not convinced that even dogs have feelings. Sure, they exhibit signs that suggest they feel, but we don't know what those signs really mean. They could simply be outward behaviors developed over the centuries in order to elicit fortuitous responses from humans. This supports survival. So when Rover gives you puppy dog eyes, you give him your pizza crust. And when Fuzzy cowers when you come home and she's chewed your shoes, you have increased sympathy on her. Brian On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:04:53 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We used to feed chickens the carcasses or roast chicken we'd had for dinner. They loved it. They won't even wait for them to be cooked. See what happens when you get an injured chicken in a flock. That's why de-beaking is common ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
Part of the Canadian Auto Show is taking place in my hotel. Its been kind of fun to watch them setting up while having dinner, the restaurant overlooks the interior of the Sky Dome. Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
I met him in Atlanta. Nice guy but his Manager was a real ass. Foose canceled Overhaulin because the producers did not want to venture out of Southern California. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT (sorry): 2 year old neutered male Siberian Husky looking for good home
Yes, they shed alot...part of being a giant fluffy thing. There is a Husky Rescue in St. Louis, I think, but I have yet to mention in the Church bulletin, so that is the next step. BTW, Anke attacked Nanook again on Tuesday night. He doesn't defend himself, just cowers and makes that Husky scream, which I think convinces the Shepherds that he is an alien and makes the situation escalate. Thanks for the best wishes Chris Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW Christopher, wish you success with placing your Husky. My wife and I each have a dog - my Doberman and her Husky. It's not in the cards for us to get another one - two is enough. Especially when you consider that the wife travels, and I am required by my wedding vows to travel at least once or twice a year. And I have gotten her, without much arm twisting, to agree never to get a Husky again. The hair buildup in the house is constant. A major thorn in our sides. I would find the number to Husky rescue groups around your location. If they have capacity they should take him. But be prepared for a possible lecture from a zealot. Brian On Feb 12, 2008 6:17 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: '85 300SD - PO spent $1,500 trying to solve no acceleration/power. We got an ALDA from the PNP for free and that fixed it. fixed all the window regulators (straightened the main plate and rivetted thin steel plate to them so they won't bend - works great)...no a million little details. Next is window (front and back) installation. '84 300D - beautiful - got an IP for $5.00 from the PNP and it runs great. Not much left to do on that one. '85 300D Cali - runs great, doesn't need much BUT our friend's 240D got hit and he's giving us the insurance money to fix it, so we are gonna cannibilize parts off this car. Also found a beautiful (no rust) 300D with shot tranny for $250 - we're taking the tranny out of this car to put in that one. Kind of a shame to use a perfectly good car as a parts car but 123's are non-existant ant PNPs around here - 300SD are EVERYWHERE (kind of sad)...and we only paid $450 for this one. '76 240D - haven't touched it. Runs, but needs some body work and that will wait till summer. Nothing sold yet, but we're slowly getting there. All parts from PNP so costs are pretty minimal. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So whats going on with all your projects you have going on? Christopher McCann wrote: My two German Shepherds (the gestapo) have for 6 months now (since we got Nanook the Husky) delighted in beating the snot out of our dear, fluffly, friendly, loving Husky. Since we need the Shepherds as guard dogs (we live in the hood) we are looking for a home for Nanook where he will be happier. He is a very nice dog and if we did not have/need scary German Shepherds, we would not remotely consider giving him up. If you are interested, let me know. He is perfectly house trained and very loving. He needs a fenced yard or he will run away - that's how huskies are - they run and run and run. OR he would be content to be a house dog (especially in the summer - he is not a big fan of heat), but would need to be walked daily. He is a really great dog. Chris CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt -Anke Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt -Anke Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery
Re: [MBZ] the super nice 90 420SEL that I sold way too cheap
you should have, it was a hell of a deal. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:20:50 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im sure you will recall the super nice 420 that somebody here should have bought because it sold way too cheap. Well the guy who bought it bought it for his 16 year old kids first car. Well, get a call today, kid totaled it already. Guess I will be getting it back and selling them another car. That was a hell of a nice car, its such a shame. Indeed. And I'm still kicking myself for not getting it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pardon the OT - heard of this employment website - scam or no
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I normally shut down immediately anything that smells like a scam, but I am vulnerable here in my desperation to get a decent job, and they are, possibly, preying on that. Oh come on, quit fretting. It has every indication of being either a scam to get your identity, or at best a pretty superficial job posting board. Move along. If you want to job hunt on the web use established legit sites like Monster or CareerBuilder. Though even there you have to use common sense. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] `89 Mercedes 300E $4200
looks like a dealer badge to me. Chuck Landenberger wrote: There is a badge on the right side of the trunk lid. Makes me think it's a 2.6 or 2.8 in the 300E badged 124 Couldn't get a good focus in the pic. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:11 AM, LarryT wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] `89 Mercedes 300E $4200
no John Freer wrote: I thought the W124 had the bottom plastic cladding in 89? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the super nice 90 420SEL that I sold way too cheap
I considered it, but the white leather did not appeal to me. Sorry to hear about it getting smashed up. Allan -- 1983 300D Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you should have, it was a hell of a deal. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:20:50 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im sure you will recall the super nice 420 that somebody here should have bought because it sold way too cheap. Well the guy who bought it bought it for his 16 year old kids first car. Well, get a call today, kid totaled it already. Guess I will be getting it back and selling them another car. That was a hell of a nice car, its such a shame. Indeed. And I'm still kicking myself for not getting it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Does he really mean it?
Its the cheap class, what do you expect. No, the C class is not supposed to be compared to the 123, it replaced the 201. The 124 replaced the 123. 2 different classes so to speak. LarryT wrote: How do others feel about the C class? I sat in one at the dealers and it seemed incredibly small and difficult to get in out of. Nothing like my W123 or W124. I think the C class is supposed to be comparable to the W123 and the E class is comparable to the W124, correct? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Does he really mean it? So, is it really theft if he invites you to steal it? Randy http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/564118434.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300td wagon prices
They are WAY overpriced. Better off just buying a 300TE instead and saving alot of cash. carbucks wrote: Hi, While I've been happy with my 85 and 83 300SDs, they don't suit our lifestyle with the dog. Been researching the 87 300td. Looking for some list wisdom on fair market value for one in good to excellent condition. Here's what I've discovered so far. NADA ranges from $3950 to $8600 Original MSRP: $42,500 Low Retail http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5013-0-0-0l=1w=21p=1f=5014y=1987m=1115d=6215c=20vi=10197z=98001da=1# Average Retail Value http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5013-0-0-0l=1w=21p=1f=5014y=1987m=1115d=6215c=20vi=10197z=98001da=1# High Retail http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5013-0-0-0l=1w=21p=1f=5014y=1987m=1115d=6215c=20vi=10197z=98001da=1# Base Price$3,950 $5,150 $8,600 TOTAL PRICE $3,950 $5,150 http://www.nadaguides.com/LinkTracker.aspx?itemid=50361LI=1-21-1-5014-708-745-50361l=1w=21p=20f=5605xq=price-5150* $8,600 Ebay Buy Now prices are currently in the $10 000 range. Autotrader and cars.com listed prices range from $7000 to $13500 Martin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300SE for sale locally
No affiliation, etc. Spotted in the local paper: 1988 Mercedes 300SE, very clean, dark blue with tan leather interior. Loaded. $3000. Ph 322-6007 The area code there would be 812; Bloomington IN area. Let me know if anyone wants me to try to take a look at it. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need VIN # check
VIN: WDBFA66E8LF013351 Year: 1990 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: SL Class 500SL Style/Body: Roadster 2D Class: Sport Car - Premium Engine: 5.0L V8 MPI Country of Assembly: Germany Vehicle Age: 18 year(s) Calculated Owners: 2 Last Reported Odometer Reading: 52,257 This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 87 34-66 This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection About Buyback Protection Section summaries Title and ProblemCheck:Your vehicle checks out! OdometerCheck:Your vehicle checks out! Vehicle Use and EventCheck:Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported Full History:Detailed information available Title and ProblemCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1990 Mercedes-Benz SL Class 500SL (WDBFA66E8LF013351) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems. 0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title record No junk or scrapped title record No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 1990 Mercedes-Benz SL Class 500SL (WDBFA66E8LF013351) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 11 10/29/1990 19,000 01/24/1996 26,000 02/03/1998 31,000 02/08/2000 38,000 01/22/2002 52,257 02/27/2006 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 1990 Mercedes-Benz SL Class 500SL (WDBFA66E8LF013351)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations. 0 Event(s) Reported: 5 Vehicle uses checked: No fleet, rental, lease and/or taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 2 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources No corrected title record No duplicate title record Emission/safety inspection record(s) Loan/Lien record(s) No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date:: 02/14/2008 Vehicle: 1990 Mercedes-Benz SL Class 500SL (WDBFA66E8LF013351) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 10/29/1990 SMITHTOWN, NY 11 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 01/24/1996 SEATTLE, WA 19,000 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 02/06/1996 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 01/31/1997 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/03/1998 SEATTLE, WA 26,000 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 02/13/1998 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/02/1999 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/08/2000 SEATTLE, WA 31,000 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 02/23/2000 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/06/2001 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 01/22/2002 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 01/22/2002 SEATTLE, WA 38,000 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 02/24/2003 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/26/2004 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 03/02/2005 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/27/2006 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/27/2006 SPOKANE, WA 52,257 Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 02/28/2007 SEATTLE, WA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL This Vehicle's Glossary Below are the specific definitions for events that appear in this vehicle's report. More information is available in the full AutoCheck glossary. Term Section Location Definition Loan/Lien Vehicle Use and EventCheck A loan/lien is the legal right to take and
Re: [MBZ] Does he really mean it?
i can fit in and drive a c class sedan. it is far more like a w124 than a w201. i doubt most of you who denigrate it as cheap class have ever driven one. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its the cheap class, what do you expect. No, the C class is not supposed to be compared to the 123, it replaced the 201. The 124 replaced the 123. 2 different classes so to speak. LarryT wrote: How do others feel about the C class? I sat in one at the dealers and it seemed incredibly small and difficult to get in out of. Nothing like my W123 or W124. I think the C class is supposed to be comparable to the W123 and the E class is comparable to the W124, correct? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Does he really mean it? So, is it really theft if he invites you to steal it? Randy http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/564118434.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300CD Turbo Diesel - $1700 (Brighton)
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[MBZ] OT - IQ of Sorts!
Works best to glance away as her right leg goes behind her and think about her rotating the other way; when you look back, she's rotating the other way. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry Jinnette To: Gene A. ; Gene I. ; Greg ; Linwood ; Mark ; Ronnie ; Russell ; Smiley ; Wilton Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: IQ of Sorts! See it both ways but mostly clockwise unless you overide natural instincts. If you see this lady turning clockwise you are using your right brain. If you see it the other way, you are using left brain. Some people do see both ways, but most people see it only one way. If you try to see it the other way and if you do see, your IQ is above 160 which is almost a genius. Then see if you can make her go one way and then the other by shifting the brain's current. BOTH DIRECTIONS CAN BE SEEN This was proved at Yale University, over a 5 year study on the human brain and it's functions. Only 14% of the US population can see her move both ways. This is quite amazing .. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 208915 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080214/638f2b57/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - IQ of Sorts!
I can switch back and forth at will. wilton strickland wrote: Works best to glance away as her right leg goes behind her and think about her rotating the other way; when you look back, she's rotating the other way. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry Jinnette To: Gene A. ; Gene I. ; Greg ; Linwood ; Mark ; Ronnie ; Russell ; Smiley ; Wilton Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: IQ of Sorts! See it both ways but mostly clockwise unless you overide natural instincts. If you see this lady turning clockwise you are using your right brain. If you see it the other way, you are using left brain. Some people do see both ways, but most people see it only one way. If you try to see it the other way and if you do see, your IQ is above 160 which is almost a genius. Then see if you can make her go one way and then the other by shifting the brain's current. BOTH DIRECTIONS CAN BE SEEN This was proved at Yale University, over a 5 year study on the human brain and it's functions. Only 14% of the US population can see her move both ways. This is quite amazing .. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 208915 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080214/638f2b57/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - IQ of Sorts!
Oh come on. Don't you want to tell everyone that you are a genius? I've always wanted to be one. Unfortunately, that and a couple of bucks will still be needed in order for you to get a cup of coffee (or something like that). Doesn't your affection for old MB's already indicate intelligence above normal? Randy in Winterpeg where the radio is currently warning people to be aware of extreme windchill temperatures greater than minus 40 something. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IQ of Sorts! wilton strickland wrote: Works best to glance away as her right leg goes behind her and think about her rotating the other way; when you look back, she's rotating the other way. I use the shadow of her foot and put it in front of her or behind her. I don't buy the IQ claims at all. Still a neat eye trick though! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pardon the OT - heard of this employment website - scamor no
you wrote a scam to get your identity, You are wise to be cautious. Collecting Resume's is now being used to steal identities by criminals. Somepeople put an incredible amount of info on their resumes when it is better to only provide enough to get the employer to call and schedule an interview. I rememeber seeing all kinds of stuff on Resumes - even SS #'s! I guess they wanted us to be able to begin processing their employment without delay! Anyway, put the job you're interested in and the part of your background that would qualify you for that job and suggest an interview but number of kids, etc is not needed. There's *bad* people out there - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pardon the OT - heard of this employment website - scamor no Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I normally shut down immediately anything that smells like a scam, but I am vulnerable here in my desperation to get a decent job, and they are, possibly, preying on that. Oh come on, quit fretting. It has every indication of being either a scam to get your identity, or at best a pretty superficial job posting board. Move along. If you want to job hunt on the web use established legit sites like Monster or CareerBuilder. Though even there you have to use common sense. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - IQ of Sorts!
wilton strickland wrote: Works best to glance away as her right leg goes behind her and think about her rotating the other way; when you look back, she's rotating the other way. I use the shadow of her foot and put it in front of her or behind her. I don't buy the IQ claims at all. Still a neat eye trick though! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable?
Probably after there's no more danger of sub zero weather - June?? I'll let you know. On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess it is a good thing that I don't need one yet then. When are you going to come back so we can drink beer? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Randy, there isn't enough Fort Garry Pale Ale in Manitoba to persuade me to attempt to install a headliner in your car! On Feb 12, 2008 3:23 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad to know we have an experienced fellow around. If I ever need a headliner, I will save the job for when you visit Winnipeg. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? On my 111 coupe the new headliner involved removing front and rear glass plus the wood in front, plus 20 hours skilled labor, then reinsertion of the glass front and rear by an expert, and finally the nerve-wracking re-installation of the bowed wood w/s pieces and rear view mirror. I personally accomplished the final work ticket items. Did I ever mention that my motto is why do it right the first time?. On Feb 12, 2008 2:26 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't I read somewhere that putting a headliner in a 115 is a big job? I think they talked about removing the windshield and rear window in order to do it properly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? I have the headliner for $189.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Speaking of these sort of parts, what about a 115 headliner? Anybody replaced one? I have a couple of 115's that have the liner pealed back at the rear window corners. Rusty Cullens wrote: $495.00 includes front, rear and package tray. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? So, what does it cost for carpet for a 115? My carpet is getting a bit crispy. Randy (who needs to order some other stuff like the hose for the fuel tank vent and drive shaft flex joints and maybe a water pump since something leaks coolant up there) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? I have carpet for 198, 121, 180, 128, 113, 100, 111 coupe, 108, 109, 114, 115, 116, 107, 123, 126, 124, 129, 140, 210, 208, 230 209 chassis. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? On Feb 11, 2008 2:47 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all this, I don't have any carpet for the W110 chassis. Shoot. I have carpet for all other VIN's. Sorry. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. The W111 chassis then! Muhahahaha! Ed -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or
[MBZ] bumper rubber, W123
I've had continuing problems with the bumper rubber coming loose from the bumper. What happens is that the hooks on the plastic backing strip disengage from the slots in the bumper itself. Recently my front bumper strip came off completely. It's in the trunk right now. The back bumper strip is loose on one hook right now. Someone posted about using some screws or something to hold it on -- can anyone provide details on exactly how to reattach it securely? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
So when you misbehave behind the wheel what stereotype are other drivers predicting that matches your characteristics? On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i catch hell when i say bet that car is being driven by a chinese woman on a cellphone. when i am right, she still will not give me credit for it :( On Feb 13, 2008 9:28 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I drive with my daughter, we have a game. When I see someone do something stupid I make a prediction of the driver's, uh, characteristics. She chastises me for being ---ist of some sort. Then when we get to where we can see the driver's characteristics, I am 90+% correct in my predictions. I then gloat, and she has to acknowledge begrudgingly that there might be some accuracy to my ---ist stereotyping. As she is a new driver I view this as a pre-emptive assessment technique that can allow one to predict stupidity before it will most likely happen. --R Gary Hurst wrote: she already is that. she even takes offense to my using the term minorities let alone some choicer words. unbelievably, my speech is censored in my own home and car by my kid. i let my dad say whatever he wanted. not only that, but i found it very funny as a kid and still do to this day. he'd scream stuff like woman driver and sunday driver at people. who the hell talks like that? On Feb 12, 2008 8:01 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electile Dysfunction
He was a great American but not a particularly effective politician... On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I enjoyed the Electile Dysfunction post, sent it my brother and here's his response which I thought worth posting: Reminds me of the quote by Adlai Stevenson when he was campaigning. After his speech, a woman came up to him and said, Mr. Stevenson, you have every thinking American's vote. To which he replied, Thank you, Madam, but I need a majority. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Sales
I wonder how many Smarts they will sell On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 4:48 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't have details - but for the past 5 years MB has had good sales years - it'd be a good time to be a salesperson - 2003 - 219k 2004 - 222k 2005 - 224k 2006 - 248k 2007 - 253k 06 and 07 were *very* good years! They must have done something right - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Not sure about feelings but they certainly feel pain. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is more informative than you know. No, I haven't interacted with a chicken. And I suppose my gauge of whether I care about an animal's plight is how capable it is of suffering (at least as we know it). So if the chicken is a pretty mindless grunt creature then I feel less sympathy toward them and the handling they receive in order to fuel society's immense hunger for them. I see it like this: There has to be a line somewhere. It's different for each of us. Some folks are all broken up about the plight of every living creature except, let's say, spiders. Or maybe they feel sympathy for spiders, but not so much fleas and gnats. Or maybe they feel sympathy toward gnats but not so much for, I don't know, slugs, or tadpoles, or germs or something. So it's hypocritical for people to express sympathy for slaughtered chickens but not for the mosquito they swat off their arm. For me: I guess I draw the line where the animal actually suffers. But how do we really know if an animal suffers? We do not. So I figure let's use as needed, but husband as best we can, the animals we've been given. Truth told, I am not convinced that even dogs have feelings. Sure, they exhibit signs that suggest they feel, but we don't know what those signs really mean. They could simply be outward behaviors developed over the centuries in order to elicit fortuitous responses from humans. This supports survival. So when Rover gives you puppy dog eyes, you give him your pizza crust. And when Fuzzy cowers when you come home and she's chewed your shoes, you have increased sympathy on her. Brian On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:04:53 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We used to feed chickens the carcasses or roast chicken we'd had for dinner. They loved it. They won't even wait for them to be cooked. See what happens when you get an injured chicken in a flock. That's why de-beaking is common ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
WTF is Foose? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met him in Atlanta. Nice guy but his Manager was a real ass. Foose canceled Overhaulin because the producers did not want to venture out of Southern California. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pardon the OT - heard of this employment website - scam or no
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been fruitlessly job searching for some time now and I found an ad on Craigslist seeking a graphic artist. Brian Brian, Where are you located? Have you set up an account on LinkedIn.com? You build your network out of people you know, and then can get introduced to people that *they* know. I haven't had to use it for finding a job yet, but it is supposed to be a valuable social resource/tool. Ed -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
At 11:03 PM 2/13/2008, you wrote: ...Whites should be called European American. Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim Alles. As a more recent immigrant than most of you, it seems to me that it doesn't matter where you came from as much as what you do once you are here! Fred Moir Asbestos is my friend. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bumper rubber, W123
Just pull the rubber completely off, position the plastic retaining strip where it needs to go. The just drive a screw in the end of it to hold it, reinstall the rubber strip. Very easy. Allan Streib wrote: I've had continuing problems with the bumper rubber coming loose from the bumper. What happens is that the hooks on the plastic backing strip disengage from the slots in the bumper itself. Recently my front bumper strip came off completely. It's in the trunk right now. The back bumper strip is loose on one hook right now. Someone posted about using some screws or something to hold it on -- can anyone provide details on exactly how to reattach it securely? Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
Probably old f**t Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 So when you misbehave behind the wheel what stereotype are other drivers predicting that matches your characteristics? On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i catch hell when i say bet that car is being driven by a chinese woman on a cellphone. when i am right, she still will not give me credit for it :( On Feb 13, 2008 9:28 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I drive with my daughter, we have a game. When I see someone do something stupid I make a prediction of the driver's, uh, characteristics. She chastises me for being ---ist of some sort. Then when we get to where we can see the driver's characteristics, I am 90+% correct in my predictions. I then gloat, and she has to acknowledge begrudgingly that there might be some accuracy to my ---ist stereotyping. As she is a new driver I view this as a pre-emptive assessment technique that can allow one to predict stupidity before it will most likely happen. --R Gary Hurst wrote: she already is that. she even takes offense to my using the term minorities let alone some choicer words. unbelievably, my speech is censored in my own home and car by my kid. i let my dad say whatever he wanted. not only that, but i found it very funny as a kid and still do to this day. he'd scream stuff like woman driver and sunday driver at people. who the hell talks like that? On Feb 12, 2008 8:01 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it either. On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Whites should be called European American. Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable?
A wise move. You probably wouldn't want to be here today. Minus 30 and wind so the radio guy says be aware of windchill values around minus 46. Nice and bright of course with blue sky. Supposed to warm this weekend close to zero but then cool off a bit next week. Way below normal for this time of year. Normal would be highs of minus 10 and lows of minus 20 - C of course not F. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Probably after there's no more danger of sub zero weather - June?? I'll let you know. On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess it is a good thing that I don't need one yet then. When are you going to come back so we can drink beer? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Randy, there isn't enough Fort Garry Pale Ale in Manitoba to persuade me to attempt to install a headliner in your car! On Feb 12, 2008 3:23 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad to know we have an experienced fellow around. If I ever need a headliner, I will save the job for when you visit Winnipeg. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? On my 111 coupe the new headliner involved removing front and rear glass plus the wood in front, plus 20 hours skilled labor, then reinsertion of the glass front and rear by an expert, and finally the nerve-wracking re-installation of the bowed wood w/s pieces and rear view mirror. I personally accomplished the final work ticket items. Did I ever mention that my motto is why do it right the first time?. On Feb 12, 2008 2:26 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't I read somewhere that putting a headliner in a 115 is a big job? I think they talked about removing the windshield and rear window in order to do it properly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? I have the headliner for $189.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Speaking of these sort of parts, what about a 115 headliner? Anybody replaced one? I have a couple of 115's that have the liner pealed back at the rear window corners. Rusty Cullens wrote: $495.00 includes front, rear and package tray. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? So, what does it cost for carpet for a 115? My carpet is getting a bit crispy. Randy (who needs to order some other stuff like the hose for the fuel tank vent and drive shaft flex joints and maybe a water pump since something leaks coolant up there) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? I have carpet for 198, 121, 180, 128, 113, 100, 111 coupe, 108, 109, 114, 115, 116, 107, 123, 126, 124, 129, 140, 210, 208, 230 209 chassis. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? On Feb 11, 2008 2:47 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all this, I don't have any carpet for the W110 chassis. Shoot. I have carpet for all other VIN's. Sorry. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc.
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
That depends on whether you came from a car-centric situation or not. My hypothesis is that those who have no car-centric history from a young age are generally clueless once they get their licenses (or not, but that is another discussion) since they do not have a sixth sense of stuff going on around them on the roads. Here in Houston we have lots of those kind of drivers. A friend's wife, who grew up in New York City, had very minimal experience in a car other than an occasional taxi -- took the bus/subway/taxi everywhere or walked. After she got her Ph.D. from Harvard/MIT (she is not your average inconsiderate dumbass, though the correlation between the two aspects might not be a good one) she decided she needed to learn to drive. She is the first to admit she is an absolutely terrible driver, and has zero sense of what being in a car is about though she makes an effort. She minimizes driving, just to/from work mostly, and does not like it at all. YMMV --R Frederick W Moir wrote: Alles. As a more recent immigrant than most of you, it seems to me that it doesn't matter where you came from as much as what you do once you are here! Fred Moir Asbestos is my friend. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
something to indicate i am crazy in a middle aged white guy kind of way. i'm a pretty courteous driver though. i will drive on the sidewalk though to get around stupidity in front of me. i like jamaican food and in this area, no white every goes to a jamaican place. so we see a new one having opened up and i have to check it out. in my excitement to get out, i forget to secure the white german, and she escapes from the car. now picture this -- you are an african jamaican american black enjoying some goat and you are watching a 500 lb old white guy with long white hair fighting with a noisy german shepherd in the parking lot in front of you? after securing the german, i walk in to dead silence. then i ask what the hell is it with these crazy white guys and their dogs? and the whole place falls down laughing. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So when you misbehave behind the wheel what stereotype are other drivers predicting that matches your characteristics? On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i catch hell when i say bet that car is being driven by a chinese woman on a cellphone. when i am right, she still will not give me credit for it :( On Feb 13, 2008 9:28 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I drive with my daughter, we have a game. When I see someone do something stupid I make a prediction of the driver's, uh, characteristics. She chastises me for being ---ist of some sort. Then when we get to where we can see the driver's characteristics, I am 90+% correct in my predictions. I then gloat, and she has to acknowledge begrudgingly that there might be some accuracy to my ---ist stereotyping. As she is a new driver I view this as a pre-emptive assessment technique that can allow one to predict stupidity before it will most likely happen. --R Gary Hurst wrote: she already is that. she even takes offense to my using the term minorities let alone some choicer words. unbelievably, my speech is censored in my own home and car by my kid. i let my dad say whatever he wanted. not only that, but i found it very funny as a kid and still do to this day. he'd scream stuff like woman driver and sunday driver at people. who the hell talks like that? On Feb 12, 2008 8:01 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
An idiot, all-inclusive, driving either a truck or an old Benz. Having been exposed to a LOT of really bad drivers, up around Boston (where you expect certain stupidities in certain situations, so you can be prepared) to Houston (where the stupidity is just absolutely totally random and much more dangerous but you can get some clues), I take great pains to be a good citizen on the road, and have instilled that in daughter. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: So when you misbehave behind the wheel what stereotype are other drivers predicting that matches your characteristics? On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i catch hell when i say bet that car is being driven by a chinese woman on a cellphone. when i am right, she still will not give me credit for it :( On Feb 13, 2008 9:28 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I drive with my daughter, we have a game. When I see someone do something stupid I make a prediction of the driver's, uh, characteristics. She chastises me for being ---ist of some sort. Then when we get to where we can see the driver's characteristics, I am 90+% correct in my predictions. I then gloat, and she has to acknowledge begrudgingly that there might be some accuracy to my ---ist stereotyping. As she is a new driver I view this as a pre-emptive assessment technique that can allow one to predict stupidity before it will most likely happen. --R Gary Hurst wrote: she already is that. she even takes offense to my using the term minorities let alone some choicer words. unbelievably, my speech is censored in my own home and car by my kid. i let my dad say whatever he wanted. not only that, but i found it very funny as a kid and still do to this day. he'd scream stuff like woman driver and sunday driver at people. who the hell talks like that? On Feb 12, 2008 8:01 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - IQ of sorts
---Switch back and forth at will. Me, too. I doubt it means much about IQ, 'cause I've done some mighty stupid things. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
I think it's like a Nerf ball, only bigger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerf Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WTF is Foose? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met him in Atlanta. Nice guy but his Manager was a real ass. Foose canceled Overhaulin because the producers did not want to venture out of Southern California. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pardon the OT - heard of this employment website - scam or no
Well that's sort of the point, Allan. I have moved along from this thing to the next to the next - including Monster and Career Builder and more. And as I said - nothing has come from it. I'm not blaming those job sites - the problem is probably the fault of my sub-par portfolio presentation, but I still need a decent job with benefits. I hope you've had much better success with your career than I. So the site in question was enticing. I'm just complaining about folks taking advantage of those down on their luck. I'll fret if I want to - sorry to disturb you. I vent on here sometimes. Brian On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I normally shut down immediately anything that smells like a scam, but I am vulnerable here in my desperation to get a decent job, and they are, possibly, preying on that. Oh come on, quit fretting. It has every indication of being either a scam to get your identity, or at best a pretty superficial job posting board. Move along. If you want to job hunt on the web use established legit sites like Monster or CareerBuilder. Though even there you have to use common sense. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pardon the OT - heard of this employment website - scam or no
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well that's sort of the point, Allan. I have moved along from this thing to the next to the next - including Monster and Career Builder and more. And as I said - nothing has come from it. I'm not blaming those job sites - the problem is probably the fault of my sub-par portfolio presentation, but I still need a decent job with benefits. I hope you've had much better success with your career than I. I'm not particularly thrilled at the moment, I have a decent salary for the locale, benefits are pretty poor though (small company). Sorry if I misread your post, I got the impression that you were putting resumes on web sites and sort of expecting a good job to just fall out of the sky as a result. If you're working hard trying to market yourself without success, that is frustrating, don't give up, perhaps seek some counsel on what you could change in your strategy or presentation, maybe try to find someone in your field who would be willing to do a mock interview and critique you, etc. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - IQ of Sorts!
I can pretty much shift it clockwise / counterclockwise at will, but my IQ is nowhere near the 160 mark. I'd look for other reasons for that ability. I WISH it were that high, though. BillR -Original Message- From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/14/08 10:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT - IQ of Sorts! Works best to glance away as her right leg goes behind her and think about her rotating the other way; when you look back, she's rotating the other way. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry Jinnette To: Gene A. ; Gene I. ; Greg ; Linwood ; Mark ; Ronnie ; Russell ; Smiley ; Wilton Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: IQ of Sorts! See it both ways but mostly clockwise unless you overide natural instincts. If you see this lady turning clockwise you are using your right brain. If you see it the other way, you are using left brain. Some people do see both ways, but most people see it only one way. If you try to see it the other way and if you do see, your IQ is above 160 which is almost a genius. Then see if you can make her go one way and then the other by shifting the brain's current. BOTH DIRECTIONS CAN BE SEEN This was proved at Yale University, over a 5 year study on the human brain and it's functions. Only 14% of the US population can see her move both ways. This is quite amazing .. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 208915 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080214/638f2b57/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Well, so far no chicken has tried to bite me on the back of the neck. BUT, chickens tend to be tasty when cooked. Not sure about mosquitos given I have never tried to collect sufficient numbers to try cooking them. Now don't get me wrong, I am not in favour of inhumane treatment of chickens. I think they should be dispatched carefully and quickly and with the least trauma to themselves and others as possible. On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. Randy who won't have to worry about the mosquitos until it warms up a bit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens Squashing the mosquito that is drilling into the back of your neck is called self defense. Mosquito leaves me along, I leave him/her alone. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it's hypocritical for people to express sympathy for slaughtered chickens but not for the mosquito they swat off their arm. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Allan Streib wrote: DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. Hasn't the effectiveness of DDT decreased over the years? I don't think its banned everywhere, and I seem to remember some study saying that the dosage has been increasing without any decrease in mosquito deaths. Its been a long time since I read that, and I have no recollection of any specifics. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
Good one. BillR -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/14/08 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 something to indicate i am crazy in a middle aged white guy kind of way. i'm a pretty courteous driver though. i will drive on the sidewalk though to get around stupidity in front of me. i like jamaican food and in this area, no white every goes to a jamaican place. so we see a new one having opened up and i have to check it out. in my excitement to get out, i forget to secure the white german, and she escapes from the car. now picture this -- you are an african jamaican american black enjoying some goat and you are watching a 500 lb old white guy with long white hair fighting with a noisy german shepherd in the parking lot in front of you? after securing the german, i walk in to dead silence. then i ask what the hell is it with these crazy white guys and their dogs? and the whole place falls down laughing. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So when you misbehave behind the wheel what stereotype are other drivers predicting that matches your characteristics? On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i catch hell when i say bet that car is being driven by a chinese woman on a cellphone. when i am right, she still will not give me credit for it :( On Feb 13, 2008 9:28 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I drive with my daughter, we have a game. When I see someone do something stupid I make a prediction of the driver's, uh, characteristics. She chastises me for being ---ist of some sort. Then when we get to where we can see the driver's characteristics, I am 90+% correct in my predictions. I then gloat, and she has to acknowledge begrudgingly that there might be some accuracy to my ---ist stereotyping. As she is a new driver I view this as a pre-emptive assessment technique that can allow one to predict stupidity before it will most likely happen. --R Gary Hurst wrote: she already is that. she even takes offense to my using the term minorities let alone some choicer words. unbelievably, my speech is censored in my own home and car by my kid. i let my dad say whatever he wanted. not only that, but i found it very funny as a kid and still do to this day. he'd scream stuff like woman driver and sunday driver at people. who the hell talks like that? On Feb 12, 2008 8:01 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
Foose = Strasfogel It is the name of a fellow who designs custom vehicles. There is or was a tv show about it all. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto WTF is Foose? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met him in Atlanta. Nice guy but his Manager was a real ass. Foose canceled Overhaulin because the producers did not want to venture out of Southern California. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Squashing the mosquito that is drilling into the back of your neck is called self defense. Mosquito leaves me along, I leave him/her alone. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it's hypocritical for people to express sympathy for slaughtered chickens but not for the mosquito they swat off their arm. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
another example of the government creating more pain? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember reading something not long back that suggested stopping the use of DDT was one of the worst things that has happened to 3rd world countries. We were afraid of what it might do to people so we stopped producing it. However, what the mosquitos do in many tropical countries is a whole lot worse for most people that the effects of DDT ever might be. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
I remember reading something not long back that suggested stopping the use of DDT was one of the worst things that has happened to 3rd world countries. We were afraid of what it might do to people so we stopped producing it. However, what the mosquitos do in many tropical countries is a whole lot worse for most people that the effects of DDT ever might be. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
You know, it's kind of funny, I'm not really into those kinds of cars at all, but I have watched both his show, and the other one, Boyd or whatever. Foose comes across as a nice, with a real love for what he does. Boyd on the other hand, comes across to me as pushing his staff to get everything done yesterday, and most projects seem rush rush rush. As I said, I'm not into those cars, but I know they sell for big bucks these days. If I was so inclined to part with that type of money, I sure wouldn't be handing over any money to Boyd based on how I've seen him do business on his show. If I was interested in such a car, Boyd's show would convince me to take my business, and money elsewhere. Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Foose = Strasfogel It is the name of a fellow who designs custom vehicles. There is or was a tv show about it all. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto WTF is Foose? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met him in Atlanta. Nice guy but his Manager was a real ass. Foose canceled Overhaulin because the producers did not want to venture out of Southern California. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
On the news last night: Somebody abandoned 60-70 chickens in a public school building after hours. Left them food and water and free range in the hallways. School had to be closed the day they found the chickens (and the accompanying mess). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
The government wants to make you happy so it will be re-elected. Do Gooders want to protect you from everything including yourself. They whine at the government who then does something to shut them up in the hope that it will be seen as a positive move. Sort of like global warming and bio fuels etc. Somebody has to save you from yourself or you will just go ahead and ruin the planet for everyone. Of course, the people who rant about this stuff don't always know what they are talking about and some have a vested interest in promoting their view. And, once we ban something, it is difficult to admit erro and bring it back. Randy with a jaded view in the GWN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens another example of the government creating more pain? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember reading something not long back that suggested stopping the use of DDT was one of the worst things that has happened to 3rd world countries. We were afraid of what it might do to people so we stopped producing it. However, what the mosquitos do in many tropical countries is a whole lot worse for most people that the effects of DDT ever might be. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Not so sure that is an answer. Some of these folks have other positive benefits to society. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens yes, kill teh do gooders and achieve lasting happiness and peace On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The government wants to make you happy so it will be re-elected. Do Gooders want to protect you from everything including yourself. They whine at the government who then does something to shut them up in the hope that it will be seen as a positive move. Sort of like global warming and bio fuels etc. Somebody has to save you from yourself or you will just go ahead and ruin the planet for everyone. Of course, the people who rant about this stuff don't always know what they are talking about and some have a vested interest in promoting their view. And, once we ban something, it is difficult to admit erro and bring it back. Randy with a jaded view in the GWN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens another example of the government creating more pain? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember reading something not long back that suggested stopping the use of DDT was one of the worst things that has happened to 3rd world countries. We were afraid of what it might do to people so we stopped producing it. However, what the mosquitos do in many tropical countries is a whole lot worse for most people that the effects of DDT ever might be. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
Gary wrote: after securing the german, i walk in to dead silence. then i ask what the hell is it with these crazy white guys and their dogs? and the whole place falls down laughing. That mental picture and your comments certainly made me laugh out loud! We have a young lawyers trolly trek every year and we rent a Street Car trolley type vehicle with 30-40 of us. We drive around Wichita to 3 pre-selected bars that are out of the way dive bars. Last year, we went to a bar in the WRONG side of town. It was like one of those movies when someone who doesn't belong walks in and the music stops and everyone stares Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
Bear in mind that a lot of this is hype to make the show more interesting. It is scripted to a great extent and Boyd is no doubt encouraged to be a tough buy like the father in the show about the choppers. One wonders if reality might be a whole lot different. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto You know, it's kind of funny, I'm not really into those kinds of cars at all, but I have watched both his show, and the other one, Boyd or whatever. Foose comes across as a nice, with a real love for what he does. Boyd on the other hand, comes across to me as pushing his staff to get everything done yesterday, and most projects seem rush rush rush. As I said, I'm not into those cars, but I know they sell for big bucks these days. If I was so inclined to part with that type of money, I sure wouldn't be handing over any money to Boyd based on how I've seen him do business on his show. If I was interested in such a car, Boyd's show would convince me to take my business, and money elsewhere. Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Foose = Strasfogel It is the name of a fellow who designs custom vehicles. There is or was a tv show about it all. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto WTF is Foose? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met him in Atlanta. Nice guy but his Manager was a real ass. Foose canceled Overhaulin because the producers did not want to venture out of Southern California. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
Randy wrote: So, was this a gay bar? No. We were the only white people in the bar. After they realized that 30-40 of us were going to order drinks and didn't complain when a crown and coke cost $7, they were happy to have us there. One year, we did go to a lesbian bar. I didn't know there was such a thing. I just thought gay bars were for men or women. But, in Wichita there is a lesbian bar. Needless to say, the female lawyers in their business suits and high heels were very popular. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
yes, kill teh do gooders and achieve lasting happiness and peace On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The government wants to make you happy so it will be re-elected. Do Gooders want to protect you from everything including yourself. They whine at the government who then does something to shut them up in the hope that it will be seen as a positive move. Sort of like global warming and bio fuels etc. Somebody has to save you from yourself or you will just go ahead and ruin the planet for everyone. Of course, the people who rant about this stuff don't always know what they are talking about and some have a vested interest in promoting their view. And, once we ban something, it is difficult to admit erro and bring it back. Randy with a jaded view in the GWN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens another example of the government creating more pain? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember reading something not long back that suggested stopping the use of DDT was one of the worst things that has happened to 3rd world countries. We were afraid of what it might do to people so we stopped producing it. However, what the mosquitos do in many tropical countries is a whole lot worse for most people that the effects of DDT ever might be. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
So, was this a gay bar? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 Gary wrote: after securing the german, i walk in to dead silence. then i ask what the hell is it with these crazy white guys and their dogs? and the whole place falls down laughing. That mental picture and your comments certainly made me laugh out loud! We have a young lawyers trolly trek every year and we rent a Street Car trolley type vehicle with 30-40 of us. We drive around Wichita to 3 pre-selected bars that are out of the way dive bars. Last year, we went to a bar in the WRONG side of town. It was like one of those movies when someone who doesn't belong walks in and the music stops and everyone stares Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, what's a Foose?
I'm sure you're right, but if the show is an extension of how he works, and in anyway meant to promote him business, kinda missed the mark with me. If there was a show about disgruntled Ferrari employees leaving bottle caps inside the doors of new cars (as they sometimes did in the '60s-'70s hee hee), it would be fun to watch, but wouldn't inspire me to want to buy a Ferrari. :-) Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bear in mind that a lot of this is hype to make the show more interesting. It is scripted to a great extent and Boyd is no doubt encouraged to be a tough buy like the father in the show about the choppers. One wonders if reality might be a whole lot different. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto You know, it's kind of funny, I'm not really into those kinds of cars at all, but I have watched both his show, and the other one, Boyd or whatever. Foose comes across as a nice, with a real love for what he does. Boyd on the other hand, comes across to me as pushing his staff to get everything done yesterday, and most projects seem rush rush rush. As I said, I'm not into those cars, but I know they sell for big bucks these days. If I was so inclined to part with that type of money, I sure wouldn't be handing over any money to Boyd based on how I've seen him do business on his show. If I was interested in such a car, Boyd's show would convince me to take my business, and money elsewhere. Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Foose = Strasfogel It is the name of a fellow who designs custom vehicles. There is or was a tv show about it all. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto WTF is Foose? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met him in Atlanta. Nice guy but his Manager was a real ass. Foose canceled Overhaulin because the producers did not want to venture out of Southern California. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Saw a 1999 diesel
The rust problem he was referring to there, was more than likely related to the spring perches, which were a serious design flaw associated with the W210 chassis. I'd seriously consider either a '98 or '99 E300D, but the first thing I'd do is remove the front springs, break out my MIG setup and beef up the perch welds. Other than that, they're nice cars. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was out in front of our building and I saw a 1999 300 diesel. I was out looking at it and the owner came out and was wondering if he could help me (I am sure he was thinking what is this strange guy doing around my car). Anyway, I talked to him and told I was interested in Mercedes diesels and that I have had several, etc. Well, he warmed up to me and started telling me about all of his MB diesels. He said that this car had 345,000 miles, he was the original owner and had no problems other than maintenance items. He said he routinely got 37 mpg and it was the best MB, he had ever had. He said the only warranty work done was that they had to replace the shock towers when they rusted out. The strange thing was that he did not have any other rust problems. There was no rust on the car. He said he had no plans to get rid of it unless he had to pay for an engine rebuild and wouldn't get rid of it until it had at least 500,000 miles. That was encouraging to hear, because I thought these later models had all sorts of problems. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Around here that sort of thing might happen near the end of the school year. The graduating class likes to play little tricks on the school. A couple of years ago friends of my younger son were kicked out of school for hanging a dead racoon on the flag pole in front of the school. They got away with it a couple of times but I guess the humour had worn thin by the 3rd day. Don't know if it was the same racoon and they managed to retrieve it from the garbage after the caretakers took it down or if they got a new dead one daily. Randy - who needs to get to work and ignore the postings this afternoon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens On the news last night: Somebody abandoned 60-70 chickens in a public school building after hours. Left them food and water and free range in the hallways. School had to be closed the day they found the chickens (and the accompanying mess). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240
So who would have thought there might be such a thing in Wichita? New York, Chicago, LA and no one would blink an eye, but this is middle America. Do Hilary and Barak know Randy in Winnipeg where it is too cold for folks to come out of the proverbial closet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 Randy wrote: So, was this a gay bar? No. We were the only white people in the bar. After they realized that 30-40 of us were going to order drinks and didn't complain when a crown and coke cost $7, they were happy to have us there. One year, we did go to a lesbian bar. I didn't know there was such a thing. I just thought gay bars were for men or women. But, in Wichita there is a lesbian bar. Needless to say, the female lawyers in their business suits and high heels were very popular. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Saw a 1999 diesel
I was out in front of our building and I saw a 1999 300 diesel. I was out looking at it and the owner came out and was wondering if he could help me (I am sure he was thinking what is this strange guy doing around my car). Anyway, I talked to him and told I was interested in Mercedes diesels and that I have had several, etc. Well, he warmed up to me and started telling me about all of his MB diesels. He said that this car had 345,000 miles, he was the original owner and had no problems other than maintenance items. He said he routinely got 37 mpg and it was the best MB, he had ever had. He said the only warranty work done was that they had to replace the shock towers when they rusted out. The strange thing was that he did not have any other rust problems. There was no rust on the car. He said he had no plans to get rid of it unless he had to pay for an engine rebuild and wouldn't get rid of it until it had at least 500,000 miles. That was encouraging to hear, because I thought these later models had all sorts of problems. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Saw a 1999 diesel
Zeitgeist wrote: The rust problem he was referring to there, was more than likely related to the spring perches, which were a serious design flaw associated with the W210 chassis. I'd seriously consider either a '98 or '99 E300D, but the first thing I'd do is remove the front springs, break out my MIG setup and beef up the perch welds. Other than that, they're nice cars. Does anyone know if they fixed that problem in the W211 (current E-Class) chassis? John (wants a CDI one day) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Thanks Alex, sounds like more than a 10 minute job, so it will have to wait for the weekend. Just finished washing the car, and getting pretty good at drying it before the water freezes on it. lol. Having some problems with the vacuum door locks again. I'll write more once I figure out how to word it, but I have a feeling, my father is behind this great vacuum door lock mystery!! lol. Again, thanks for the tips Alex, I'm off to the garage now to make sure I have a 4.5mm hex, with an extension, and funny enough, I think I do. :-) Ed 300Eprettiest car on the street. :-) On 14/02/2008, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 5:40 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The light on the centre air vent seems to be out on my car. Both vents on the right and left of the dash have back lights on the swivel part of the vent wheel, so I figure there's also one on the centre one? Ok, how do I get to it? :-) From memory, open the glovebox and there's a Philips screw on the left side (right side of the center vents). Remove that and you can take off the metal cover. Then shine a strong light into the vents and you'll see that the knob in the middle is connected to an arm that opens and closes a big flap right in front of the AC evaporator. Wave hi to the evaporator, this is the closest you'll get to it unless you take out the entire dashboard (20+ hour job per book!). The arm disconnects with a long 4.5mm hex driver. (I'm not making that size up, so far I haven't seen it anywhere else on a 124 or any other car). Then the whole vent assembly pulls right out. The lightbulb socket snaps into a little plastic panel. Pry it open with your fingernail. It'll probably break and need to taped back together after you change the bulb (available from Rusty). DISCONNECT THE BATTERY FIRST or you are guaranteed to short out the socket while fiddling with it, which will blow the special red fuse behind the instrument panel and shut off all the dash lights until you pull the panel out and swap the fuse. I learned the hard way. Also, should the knob for the headlights be back lit as well. If so, mine has never worked, but if it has one, might as well see to it while I'm doing the light bulb thing. :-) That one's a lot easier, just pull off the knob and there's a big nut behind holding the switch into the panel. Maybe you have to undo the panel right above your knees as well in order to get the switch out from the back---I forget. Either way, it's pretty obvious, no secrets or tricks, unlike the center vent---you should be able to figure it out. ;) Oh, they're both the same size bulb, used throughout the dash. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 89 300TE with dead tacho and wonky ABS light?
Are you sure you have a good charge in the battery and the system is charging well. I think once the voltage drops below a certain point, the ABS light will come on. If you know all the mechanical parts of the brake system are working, may want to have a look at the voltage. Just a thought. Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a 89 300TE the other day and one of the problems is that the tacho is not working and the ABS light is on. I managed to make the ABS light go off by cleaning the sensors but it has come on again. The brakes are working fine but I don't like lights on the dash being on when they are not supposed too and yes I do know I can pull the bulb out to make the light go off. Anyone with any ideas apart from the bulb removal method? To find out more about the car punch in this: WDB1240902F105854 into that: http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng Hendrik with another Benz to fuss over ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, what's a Foose?
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:58 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you're right, but if the show is an extension of how he works, and in anyway meant to promote him business, kinda missed the mark with me. Ed 300E Foose is more than just Chip Foose. His father, Sam Foose owns, or owned, a company that did car design and had most of the contracts for AMT models back in, I think the 80's. At the age of seven Chip was helping his father's company draw up prototypes for models. He worked for Boyd Coddington in the 90's and is responsible for the creation of the Boydster I and the Boydster II and was President of Coddington's Hot Rods by Boyd. However when Hot Rods by Boyd faced bankruptcy he left and founded Foose Designs. He builds one off hot rods, modernized classics and has a line of wheels with his name on them. The show is not necessarily an extension of how he works, rather, it was posed as a challenge. Could you rebuild a classic in a week. Most of his day job work takes months, usually. I think I'm going to let him rebuild my `66 230. Wonder if he'll try to put an IH Diesel in there. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] dumb photographer of the year
Great pictures! http://tiny.cc/Pw2xG I always liked this body style Chevy Lumina and the 3.1 engine was very reliable. Too bad the pics suck. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pardon the OT - heard of this employment website -
Those sites are a tough way to get jobs. Remember every ad has 10,000 people applying for it. The way to really get a job is networking with a smaller group. Of course its A LOT harder... You may have to end up doing some freebie or cut rate work to get known and build your portfolio -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:54:09 -0800 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pardon the OT - heard of this employment website - scam or no To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well that's sort of the point, Allan. I have moved along from this thing to the next to the next - including Monster and Career Builder and more. And as I said - nothing has come from it. I'm not blaming those job sites - the problem is probably the fault of my sub-par portfolio presentation, but I still need a decent job with benefits. I hope you've had much better success with your career than I. So the site in question was enticing. I'm just complaining about folks taking advantage of those down on their luck. I'll fret if I want to - sorry to disturb you. I vent on here sometimes. Brian - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
Chip Foose, host of Overhaulin' http://www.overhaulin.com/ Frankly I'd rather have seen Adrienne but you get what you get. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:33:26 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 WTF is Foose? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met him in Atlanta. Nice guy but his Manager was a real ass. Foose canceled Overhaulin because the producers did not want to venture out of Southern California. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Anyway I saw Chip Foose at breakfast. I happened to overhear that he's apparently making a speach today Fords rock, Chevy's suck or something to that effect... Looks in person exactly like he does on Overhaulin... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: DDT was: Chickens
I was under the impression we were concerned about what it HAS done to people... http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/pest/effects.html#human A study in 1968 showed that Americans were consuming an average of 0.025 milligrams of DDT per day! At concentration above 236 mg DDT per kg of body weight, you'll die. Concentration of 6-10 mg/kg leads to such symptons as headache, nausea, vomiting, confusion, and tremors. So I weigh something like 110kg, 256,960mg of DDT kills me. In 1968 it'd have taken me 649 days to consume that assuming it all stays in my body. Uh... thats kinda scary. Of course the same article says that DDT is not readily absorbed into the skin. But of course theres another side: http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.html The truth probably lies someplace in the middle. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:56:23 -0600 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I remember reading something not long back that suggested stopping the use of DDT was one of the worst things that has happened to 3rd world countries. We were afraid of what it might do to people so we stopped producing it. However, what the mosquitos do in many tropical countries is a whole lot worse for most people that the effects of DDT ever might be. Randy - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Saw a 1999 diesel
Isn't it funny how fast car people bond once they start chatting? :-) Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the owner came out and was wondering if he could help me (I am sure he was thinking what is this strange guy doing around my car). I got the same reaction when a 1981 300SD pulled up next to our car at the post office. I jumped out to have a look/feel when the owner walked up. Can I help you? His was just a babe with only 181K on it, and he's owned it since 1992. When I told him about my SD, he said that they're wonderful cars. I've never taken a look at a W210 or W211 though, but I would sure like to check out one of the new CDI's. One would cost more than the Dodge pickup, but it wouldn't be able to tow the boat too well (unless it was an ML320CDI(. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267K+ miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 89 300TE with dead tacho and wonky ABS light?
I bought a 89 300TE the other day and one of the problems is that the tacho is not working and the ABS light is on. I managed to make the ABS light go off by cleaning the sensors but it has come on again. The brakes are working fine but I don't like lights on the dash being on when they are not supposed too and yes I do know I can pull the bulb out to make the light go off. Anyone with any ideas apart from the bulb removal method? To find out more about the car punch in this: WDB1240902F105854 into that: http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng Hendrik with another Benz to fuss over ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 5:40 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The light on the centre air vent seems to be out on my car. Both vents on the right and left of the dash have back lights on the swivel part of the vent wheel, so I figure there's also one on the centre one? Ok, how do I get to it? :-) From memory, open the glovebox and there's a Philips screw on the left side (right side of the center vents). Remove that and you can take off the metal cover. Then shine a strong light into the vents and you'll see that the knob in the middle is connected to an arm that opens and closes a big flap right in front of the AC evaporator. Wave hi to the evaporator, this is the closest you'll get to it unless you take out the entire dashboard (20+ hour job per book!). The arm disconnects with a long 4.5mm hex driver. (I'm not making that size up, so far I haven't seen it anywhere else on a 124 or any other car). Then the whole vent assembly pulls right out. The lightbulb socket snaps into a little plastic panel. Pry it open with your fingernail. It'll probably break and need to taped back together after you change the bulb (available from Rusty). DISCONNECT THE BATTERY FIRST or you are guaranteed to short out the socket while fiddling with it, which will blow the special red fuse behind the instrument panel and shut off all the dash lights until you pull the panel out and swap the fuse. I learned the hard way. Also, should the knob for the headlights be back lit as well. If so, mine has never worked, but if it has one, might as well see to it while I'm doing the light bulb thing. :-) That one's a lot easier, just pull off the knob and there's a big nut behind holding the switch into the panel. Maybe you have to undo the panel right above your knees as well in order to get the switch out from the back---I forget. Either way, it's pretty obvious, no secrets or tricks, unlike the center vent---you should be able to figure it out. ;) Oh, they're both the same size bulb, used throughout the dash. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Saw a 1999 diesel
the owner came out and was wondering if he could help me (I am sure he was thinking what is this strange guy doing around my car). I got the same reaction when a 1981 300SD pulled up next to our car at the post office. I jumped out to have a look/feel when the owner walked up. Can I help you? His was just a babe with only 181K on it, and he's owned it since 1992. When I told him about my SD, he said that they're wonderful cars. I've never taken a look at a W210 or W211 though, but I would sure like to check out one of the new CDI's. One would cost more than the Dodge pickup, but it wouldn't be able to tow the boat too well (unless it was an ML320CDI(. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267K+ miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Stopping the distribution of DDT killed *Millions and millions* of people in Africa and Indonesia - as well as many here also. There just wasn't a cost effective replacement available. While some claim DDT was the reason for the decline in eagles and other birds, there's recent evidence DDT had nothing to do with the birds - and the millions of dead people are still dead. Another nastly little law of unintended circumstances - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
You know Foose used to work for Boyd right? Boyd takes everything so personally. There was one episode where one of the kids went to work for somebody else (Foose maybe?) and Boyd blew a gasket... I'm with you Boyd just doesn't seem like a very nice person to me. I'm also never real impressed with guys who've got trophy wives... -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:07:55 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You know, it's kind of funny, I'm not really into those kinds of cars at all, but I have watched both his show, and the other one, Boyd or whatever. Foose comes across as a nice, with a real love for what he does. Boyd on the other hand, comes across to me as pushing his staff to get everything done yesterday, and most projects seem rush rush rush. As I said, I'm not into those cars, but I know they sell for big bucks these days. If I was so inclined to part with that type of money, I sure wouldn't be handing over any money to Boyd based on how I've seen him do business on his show. If I was interested in such a car, Boyd's show would convince me to take my business, and money elsewhere. Ed 300E - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, what's a Foose?
I saw one up close in a car show in Atlanta, very sharp and very well done. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/14/08 4:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, what's a Foose? Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The show is not necessarily an extension of how he works, rather, it was posed as a challenge. Could you rebuild a classic in a week. I oftern wondered how good those Overhaulin' cars really look up close, as fast as they're done. The TV camera and studio lighting could hide a lot, and of course you don't see any of the fit and finish on the interior or the undercarriage. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, what's a Foose?
Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The show is not necessarily an extension of how he works, rather, it was posed as a challenge. Could you rebuild a classic in a week. I oftern wondered how good those Overhaulin' cars really look up close, as fast as they're done. The TV camera and studio lighting could hide a lot, and of course you don't see any of the fit and finish on the interior or the undercarriage. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
So, does Boyd have a trophy wife or, considering his fame, does she have a trophy husband? Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/14/08 4:44 PM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto You know Foose used to work for Boyd right? Boyd takes everything so personally. There was one episode where one of the kids went to work for somebody else (Foose maybe?) and Boyd blew a gasket... I'm with you Boyd just doesn't seem like a very nice person to me. I'm also never real impressed with guys who've got trophy wives... -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:07:55 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You know, it's kind of funny, I'm not really into those kinds of cars at all, but I have watched both his show, and the other one, Boyd or whatever. Foose comes across as a nice, with a real love for what he does. Boyd on the other hand, comes across to me as pushing his staff to get everything done yesterday, and most projects seem rush rush rush. As I said, I'm not into those cars, but I know they sell for big bucks these days. If I was so inclined to part with that type of money, I sure wouldn't be handing over any money to Boyd based on how I've seen him do business on his show. If I was interested in such a car, Boyd's show would convince me to take my business, and money elsewhere. Ed 300E - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, does Boyd have a trophy wife or, considering his fame, does she have a trophy husband? His first wife still works as the company bookkeeper, at least last time I watched the show. Middle-aged, heavyset, and an abrasive personality. His second wife is a bleach-blonde, certainly not a supermodel but not bad looking I guess. Definitely a lot younger than either him or wife #1. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Toronto
Isn't this the show where his Godzilla like ex wife works in the office too? She must have a share in the company. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:16 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto So, does Boyd have a trophy wife or, considering his fame, does she have a trophy husband? Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/14/08 4:44 PM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto You know Foose used to work for Boyd right? Boyd takes everything so personally. There was one episode where one of the kids went to work for somebody else (Foose maybe?) and Boyd blew a gasket... I'm with you Boyd just doesn't seem like a very nice person to me. I'm also never real impressed with guys who've got trophy wives... -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:07:55 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You know, it's kind of funny, I'm not really into those kinds of cars at all, but I have watched both his show, and the other one, Boyd or whatever. Foose comes across as a nice, with a real love for what he does. Boyd on the other hand, comes across to me as pushing his staff to get everything done yesterday, and most projects seem rush rush rush. As I said, I'm not into those cars, but I know they sell for big bucks these days. If I was so inclined to part with that type of money, I sure wouldn't be handing over any money to Boyd based on how I've seen him do business on his show. If I was interested in such a car, Boyd's show would convince me to take my business, and money elsewhere. Ed 300E - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto
But you did not answer my question. She could have hooked him right out from wife #1, making him a trophy husband. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/14/08 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here I am in Tornoto Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, does Boyd have a trophy wife or, considering his fame, does she have a trophy husband? His first wife still works as the company bookkeeper, at least last time I watched the show. Middle-aged, heavyset, and an abrasive personality. His second wife is a bleach-blonde, certainly not a supermodel but not bad looking I guess. Definitely a lot younger than either him or wife #1. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable?
Cold, yes, but not as treacherous as the good old D.C. ice storm we just got hit with, which disabled millions of vehicles (well, tens of thousands anyway) and caused much slippage on slick sidewalks and broken bones (including our Sec. of Defense). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A wise move. You probably wouldn't want to be here today. Minus 30 and wind so the radio guy says be aware of windchill values around minus 46. Nice and bright of course with blue sky. Supposed to warm this weekend close to zero but then cool off a bit next week. Way below normal for this time of year. Normal would be highs of minus 10 and lows of minus 20 - C of course not F. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Probably after there's no more danger of sub zero weather - June?? I'll let you know. On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess it is a good thing that I don't need one yet then. When are you going to come back so we can drink beer? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Randy, there isn't enough Fort Garry Pale Ale in Manitoba to persuade me to attempt to install a headliner in your car! On Feb 12, 2008 3:23 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad to know we have an experienced fellow around. If I ever need a headliner, I will save the job for when you visit Winnipeg. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? On my 111 coupe the new headliner involved removing front and rear glass plus the wood in front, plus 20 hours skilled labor, then reinsertion of the glass front and rear by an expert, and finally the nerve-wracking re-installation of the bowed wood w/s pieces and rear view mirror. I personally accomplished the final work ticket items. Did I ever mention that my motto is why do it right the first time?. On Feb 12, 2008 2:26 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't I read somewhere that putting a headliner in a 115 is a big job? I think they talked about removing the windshield and rear window in order to do it properly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? I have the headliner for $189.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Speaking of these sort of parts, what about a 115 headliner? Anybody replaced one? I have a couple of 115's that have the liner pealed back at the rear window corners. Rusty Cullens wrote: $495.00 includes front, rear and package tray. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? So, what does it cost for carpet for a 115? My carpet is getting a bit crispy. Randy (who needs to order some other stuff like the hose for the fuel tank vent and drive shaft flex joints and maybe a water pump since something leaks coolant up there) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? I have carpet for 198, 121, 180, 128, 113, 100, 111 coupe, 108, 109, 114, 115, 116, 107, 123, 126, 124, 129, 140, 210, 208, 230 209 chassis. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message -
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it either. On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Whites should be called European American. Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
there's recent evidence DDT had nothing to do with the birds - and the millions of dead people are still dead.Got anything to back up this assertion? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stopping the distribution of DDT killed *Millions and millions* of people in Africa and Indonesia - as well as many here also. There just wasn't a cost effective replacement available. While some claim DDT was the reason for the decline in eagles and other birds, there's recent evidence DDT had nothing to do with the birds - and the millions of dead people are still dead. Another nastly little law of unintended circumstances - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
They don't AFAIK. Who is they anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ stereotyping? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it either. On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Whites should be called European American. Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable?
Not so sure about that. Lots of slippery spots here too. Suspect we are just more accustomed to dealing with slippery. I guess you might not think so if you saw the way people drive. They forget that things get slippery every time it snows. We had a little bit of new snow so intersections get slippery where people brake or accelerate. You have to learn to look for snow in near the curb so that you don't slide right into the intersection. Easy to get surprised as it is not slippery everywhere - just in spots. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Cold, yes, but not as treacherous as the good old D.C. ice storm we just got hit with, which disabled millions of vehicles (well, tens of thousands anyway) and caused much slippage on slick sidewalks and broken bones (including our Sec. of Defense). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A wise move. You probably wouldn't want to be here today. Minus 30 and wind so the radio guy says be aware of windchill values around minus 46. Nice and bright of course with blue sky. Supposed to warm this weekend close to zero but then cool off a bit next week. Way below normal for this time of year. Normal would be highs of minus 10 and lows of minus 20 - C of course not F. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Probably after there's no more danger of sub zero weather - June?? I'll let you know. On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess it is a good thing that I don't need one yet then. When are you going to come back so we can drink beer? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Randy, there isn't enough Fort Garry Pale Ale in Manitoba to persuade me to attempt to install a headliner in your car! On Feb 12, 2008 3:23 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad to know we have an experienced fellow around. If I ever need a headliner, I will save the job for when you visit Winnipeg. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? On my 111 coupe the new headliner involved removing front and rear glass plus the wood in front, plus 20 hours skilled labor, then reinsertion of the glass front and rear by an expert, and finally the nerve-wracking re-installation of the bowed wood w/s pieces and rear view mirror. I personally accomplished the final work ticket items. Did I ever mention that my motto is why do it right the first time?. On Feb 12, 2008 2:26 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't I read somewhere that putting a headliner in a 115 is a big job? I think they talked about removing the windshield and rear window in order to do it properly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? I have the headliner for $189.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? Speaking of these sort of parts, what about a 115 headliner? Anybody replaced one? I have a couple of 115's that have the liner pealed back at the rear window corners. Rusty Cullens wrote: $495.00 includes front, rear and package tray. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBTex/leather interiors on eBay - reputable? So, what does it cost for carpet for a 115? My carpet is getting a bit crispy.
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
they are those i generally call blacks because that is what they went by when i was growing up. in my parent's generation they were called colored in polite company. in old videos, they call themselves negro. for a while, they liked afro-american but that is no good today, when they seem to like to be called african american. why can't they settle on what they want to be called already so we can know this and move on? this endless name changing is madness. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't AFAIK. Who is they anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ stereotyping? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it either. On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Whites should be called European American. Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dumb photographer of the year
geez, you sure are a GM lover, whats to like about those cars? Donald Snook wrote: Great pictures! http://tiny.cc/Pw2xG I always liked this body style Chevy Lumina and the 3.1 engine was very reliable. Too bad the pics suck. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
A lot of it seems to be media driven. There is such an effort not to offend anyone these days that the press keeps endorsing new descriptions. Someone decides that Negro is not a good word so then they use Black, then that is not acceptable and we have African American. Some probably try to use it to their advantage but the rank and file black people could probably care less so long as it does not appear to be deliberatly derogatory. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not 240 They don't AFAIK. Who is they anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ stereotyping? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it either. On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Whites should be called European American. Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
it just sounds like insanity to me. we ought discourage people from doing this, whether it is the blacks themselves or a media effort to further confuse us. it is also interesting that we now settle on african american which is filled with logical problems that cause us to revert to black anyway. if a north african berber of a south african white moves to the usa and becomes a citizen, he is not an african american because he is not black. i know that there are many educated people on this list who have not been completely victimized by the school system so i imagine this logic has to be troubling for many of us. i mean, doesn't institutionalized nonsense bother you guys? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 6:06 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of it seems to be media driven. There is such an effort not to offend anyone these days that the press keeps endorsing new descriptions. Someone decides that Negro is not a good word so then they use Black, then that is not acceptable and we have African American. Some probably try to use it to their advantage but the rank and file black people could probably care less so long as it does not appear to be deliberatly derogatory. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not 240 They don't AFAIK. Who is they anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ stereotyping? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it either. On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Whites should be called European American. Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it either. On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Whites should be called European American. Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 89 300TE with dead tacho and wonky ABS light?
Your overvoltage relay is bad Hendrik Fay wrote: I bought a 89 300TE the other day and one of the problems is that the tacho is not working and the ABS light is on. I managed to make the ABS light go off by cleaning the sensors but it has come on again. The brakes are working fine but I don't like lights on the dash being on when they are not supposed too and yes I do know I can pull the bulb out to make the light go off. Anyone with any ideas apart from the bulb removal method? To find out more about the car punch in this: WDB1240902F105854 into that: http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng Hendrik with another Benz to fuss over ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, what's a Foose?
I always like how the show opened with him doing a sketch of how the featured car was to look when finished. I'm sure he'd do your 230, but it may end up wearing 20 rims. :-) Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:58 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you're right, but if the show is an extension of how he works, and in anyway meant to promote him business, kinda missed the mark with me. Ed 300E Foose is more than just Chip Foose. His father, Sam Foose owns, or owned, a company that did car design and had most of the contracts for AMT models back in, I think the 80's. At the age of seven Chip was helping his father's company draw up prototypes for models. He worked for Boyd Coddington in the 90's and is responsible for the creation of the Boydster I and the Boydster II and was President of Coddington's Hot Rods by Boyd. However when Hot Rods by Boyd faced bankruptcy he left and founded Foose Designs. He builds one off hot rods, modernized classics and has a line of wheels with his name on them. The show is not necessarily an extension of how he works, rather, it was posed as a challenge. Could you rebuild a classic in a week. Most of his day job work takes months, usually. I think I'm going to let him rebuild my `66 230. Wonder if he'll try to put an IH Diesel in there. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
here's one -
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={C7E1C3FC-40DC-421F-B6C3-A479FC3B5BC1}Larry
T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber
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Original Message -From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.comSent: Thursday, February 14,
2008 5:51 PMSubject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens there's recent evidence DDT had
nothing to do with the birds - and the millions of dead people are still
dead.Got anything to back up this assertion? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at
4:55 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stopping the distribution of DDT
killed *Millions and millions* of people in Africa and Indonesia - as well
as many here also. There just wasn't a cost effective replacement
available. While some claim DDT was the reason for the decline in eagles
and other birds, there's recent evidence DDT had nothing to do with the birds
- and the millions of dead people are still dead. Another nastly little
law of unintended circumstances - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91
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- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes: On the other hand, I think that mosquitos should generally
be dispatched in whatever manner works as we often have way too many of
them and they fail to treat me with the level of respect that I
normally consider is acceptable. DDT works really well, we were on the
verge of wiping out malaria until some folks decided that chickens (or some
kind of bird) were more important than people. -- 1983 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Not 240
i remember in the limited time i spent in the corporate world, orwellian doublespeak was the order of the day. i never really got a feel as to whether people actually believe the nonsense they are fed or that they are just so terrorized that they dare not question it. can i be a hungarian american if my mother was from slovakia? can i be a slovak american if i don't like hockey? what about all the great slovak hockey players in the nhl who are to this day referred to as czech? if i keep asking these questions, can i get something for nothing? i live in an insane world and i don't like it On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, YUP, at least this guy!! Chuck Phoenix AZ PS. And why can't this intelligent group of guys trim their Reply posts BTW, guys is asexual! On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i mean, doesn't institutionalized nonsense bother you guys? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
I know that this is correct about DDT...(whatever my opinion is worth) In fact, in Africa there's a campaign to bring it back! The WHO has changed its stance on DDT. I think even Bill Gates' Foundation is trying to re-instate the use of it. (wait a minute, did I just kill my argument?) Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
Gary, Just be yourself and let it go at that! Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
Gary, YUP, at least this guy!! Chuck Phoenix AZ PS. And why can't this intelligent group of guys trim their Reply posts BTW, guys is asexual! On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i mean, doesn't institutionalized nonsense bother you guys? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
