[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 080407 3.955 4.005 4.121 4.142 3.936 3.917 3.894 3.974 4.052 4.118 080331 3.964 4.014 4.130 4.160 3.941 3.929 3.907 3.972 4.049 4.112 080324 3.989 4.045 4.142 4.186 3.975 3.964 3.928 3.953 4.056 4.119 080317 3.974 4.035 4.119 4.177 3.967 3.958 3.914 3.892 4.018 4.083 080310 3.819 3.870 3.938 3.989 3.814 3.784 3.798 3.732 3.885 3.955 080303 3.658 3.700 3.813 3.825 3.636 3.639 3.609 3.573 3.736 3.803 080225 3.552 3.608 3.710 3.693 3.562 3.525 3.510 3.473 3.609 3.672 080218 3.396 3.444 3.588 3.526 3.396 3.365 3.367 3.350 3.454 3.511 080211 3.280 3.324 3.542 3.412 3.266 3.249 3.239 3.264 3.347 3.393 080204 3.280 3.338 3.566 3.438 3.275 3.243 3.247 3.260 3.325 3.377 080128 3.259 3.327 3.583 3.432 3.258 3.218 3.218 3.236 3.301 3.346 080121 3.270 3.343 3.594 3.472 3.264 3.228 3.222 3.229 3.327 3.360 080114 3.326 3.391 3.621 3.510 3.318 3.288 3.266 3.261 3.420 3.459 080107 3.376 3.436 3.644 3.554 3.366 3.345 3.318 3.276 3.474 3.526 071231 3.345 3.399 3.600 3.519 3.328 3.309 3.293 3.269 3.451 3.491 071224 3.308 3.356 3.584 3.497 3.275 3.277 3.246 3.268 3.411 3.434 071217 3.309 3.359 3.581 3.511 3.273 3.271 3.245 3.319 3.415 3.426 071210 3.325 3.372 3.570 3.514 3.293 3.276 3.265 3.397 3.440 3.455 071203 3.416 3.444 3.595 3.570 3.376 3.385 3.345 3.487 3.532 3.567 071126 3.444 3.453 3.590 3.574 3.389 3.423 3.360 3.527 3.587 3.620 071119 3.410 3.407 3.488 3.524 3.350 3.389 3.324 3.507 3.586 3.624 071112 3.425 3.415 3.484 3.523 3.362 3.403 3.347 3.532 3.608 3.663 071105 3.303 3.290 3.375 3.381 3.244 3.278 3.219 3.411 3.508 3.524 071029 3.157 3.148 3.250 3.251 3.095 3.122 3.062 3.281 3.394 3.406 071022 3.094 3.078 3.182 3.186 3.022 3.067 2.994 3.229 3.323 3.338 071015 3.039 3.023 3.122 3.125 2.970 3.025 2.941 3.169 3.229 3.249 071008 3.035 3.031 3.123 3.137 2.977 3.028 2.946 3.139 3.167 3.197 071001 3.048 3.052 3.117 3.141 3.008 3.061 2.975 3.100 3.090 3.143 070924 3.032 3.037 3.100 3.124 2.993 3.054 2.971 3.028 3.054 3.093 070917 2.964 2.961 3.025 3.054 2.916 2.984 2.903 2.972 2.998 3.023 070910 2.924 2.912 2.968 2.991 2.872 2.942 2.865 2.955 2.982 2.995 070903 2.893 2.867 2.915 2.934 2.835 2.910 2.836 2.939 2.972 2.985 070827 2.863 2.834 2.906 2.898 2.800 2.870 2.808 2.947 2.965 2.986 070820 2.868 2.842 2.915 2.905 2.808 2.864 2.807 2.977 2.996 3.016 070813 2.847 2.820 2.923 2.901 2.776 2.835 2.771 2.980 3.019 3.054 070806 2.898 2.866 2.955 2.945 2.825 2.887 2.824 3.012 3.077 3.140 070730 2.886 2.847 2.946 2.923 2.806 2.885 2.808 3.003 3.058 3.152 070723 2.889 2.860 2.950 2.945 2.815 2.882 2.815 2.988 3.061 3.158 070716 2.889 2.874 2.959 2.949 2.834 2.878 2.821 2.977 3.031 3.147 070709 2.849 2.853 2.942 2.936 2.810 2.822 2.785 2.955 2.987 3.090 070702 2.829 2.827 2.930 2.916 2.779 2.805 2.766 2.936 2.972 3.067 070625 2.835 2.832 2.920 2.915 2.789 2.806 2.780 2.936 2.985
[MBZ] Free Parts
I have around a $1,000 worth of new and used123 chassis and 240D and 300D non turbo parts. Listed on ebay twice no reserve starting at $25. Nobody bid. Contact me if you want them. Contact me at my email directly for details. You pick up in Bellefonte PA, 16823 I will help you load in your vehicle. Do not ask me for a bunch of details to be broad cast to the list. Contact me directly if you want them [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have a 1979 240D with no rust, engine needs replaced will let go cheap. Car has 130K miles. Thanks. Tom Scordato 1979 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D
It's not too bad, but going up the hill near our house with a relatively cold 87 190D NA, I shifted down to 2 (the thing will not shift down itself) and felt some light hesitation that came and went as we climbed the hill. Wonder if this is more likely to be engine or tranny? I'm still too new to the klatta klub to know if a diesel can act this way. As for the tranny: Recently, I checked the fluid and found it barely on the stick. Due to how difficult it is to get a reading on the stick, and thinking its being probably a quart and a half low would allow me to gingerly drive it to the store, I tried to climb our steep but short hill leading out of our home. I felt significant loss of power in a sort of on-and-off fashion. Cringing, I surmised this to be tranny slipping. I shifted to neutral and coasted back down the hill into my garage. So, can low tranny fluid cause this sort of slipping? By the way, the tranny leaks at a fairly significant pace - hence its low-ness. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Oh, and Presidents don't run up debts. Congresses do. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
OK Don wrote: Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. 2/3 of them can. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:54:53 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. 2/3 of them can. And the president can't do anything if the Congress doesn't provide the bill. In addition, the president can be taken captive by the Congress and the press boxing him in a corner by providing a bill that is difficult to veto. Trickle-down economics does work. During Reagan's term, federal income doubled. Unfortunately, during the same time, federal spending tripled. Should Reagan have shut down the government to force the Congress to come up with a responsible bill, not unlike what Clinton did? It's hard to say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. Can override a veto. And if he _still_ won't do it they can impeach him and perhaps get someone who will. Takes cojones, however. Something in short supply in DC. Billary has them, but I prefer them grown the natural way rather than hanging loosely from the teeth. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
I am desperate for this car The coupe and it's 1qt oil every 150-200 miles is killing me. On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:06:55 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Combination of factors obviously. The cost of the kit is minimal compared to a new tranny. Some of the tools can likely be home made versions. A press is nice to have in any event so buying it is not a bad idea. Worst case scenario is that you end up having to have it fixed or replaced anyway. In the meantime, you get an education of sorts. If I have been reading this right, Luther is not desperate for this car on a daily basis is he? Randy -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D
felt some light hesitation that came and went as we climbed the hill. Wonder if this is more likely to be engine or tranny? Both can do it. One by slipping, the other by bogging down. (Fuel supply problems, usually.) The big difference is whether or not the engine RPM seems to climb during the hesitation, or not. Can be a bit hard to determine, but it's a _lot_ easier once you've been in one that's less subtle about it. You _really_ want it to be fuel supply problems, unless it's just low oil in the tranny. If it's slipping, once it grabs again you can sometimes feel an extra lunge forward as the torque converter does its magic to turn the extra RPM on the engine into extra torque. Y'know, like when you're winding out a gasser and as it upshifts you feel a lunge forwards as the gear 'bites'. Anyway, if it's at all like that it's the tranny. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
What's their warranty? On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:40:58 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a pro MB tranny rebuilder in town - cost is about the same as one from Rusty. You pay either way. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the idea that a typical clutch and seal kit won't have whatever busted in the governor of Luther's tranny. Some professional tranny rebuilders got an education going through a 190dt last year, and the car was sold on eBay last week, only able to move in reverse. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Samsung . very good value for money. My 40 gives satisfying results. mak - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs I just bought a 65 toshiba DLP, but thats a little bigger than you are looking for I suppose. LWB250 wrote: Our aging 25 Magnavox (Philips) CRT TV passed on the other day (lost it's horizontal hold, I'm sorry to say.) Just what I need with having to get a house ready to go on the market... Anyway, I'm looking at 30-32 LCD TVs these days. Anyone bought one recently, and want to share what they learned? I'm not interested in going to a big box store if I can help it, unless it's to check something out before I buy it from someone else for a lot less. Thanks in advance, Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.8/1362 - Release Date: 4/6/2008 11:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D
I would definitely consider this a fuel problem, either water in the fuel, or dirty filters.??A dirty?cannister filter can restrict total fuel flow in a way that limits engine power, and this would be most obvious while climbing a hill.? Change both filters and consider cleaning the fuel tank suction strainer. A remote possibility is a clogged vent line on the fuel tank.? Driving the car up the same hill with tank cap removed would be a good test for that. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 3:02 am Subject: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D It's not too bad, but going up the hill near our house with a relatively cold 87 190D NA, I shifted down to 2 (the thing will not shift down itself) and felt some light hesitation that came and went as we climbed the hill. Wonder if this is more likely to be engine or tranny? I'm still too new to the klatta klub to know if a diesel can act this way. As for the tranny: Recently, I checked the fluid and found it barely on the stick. Due to how difficult it is to get a reading on the stick, and thinking its being probably a quart and a half low would allow me to gingerly drive it to the store, I tried to climb our steep but short hill leading out of our home. I felt significant loss of power in a sort of on-and-off fashion. Cringing, I surmised this to be tranny slipping. I shifted to neutral and coasted back down the hill into my garage. So, can low tranny fluid cause this sort of slipping? By the way, the tranny leaks at a fairly significant pace - hence its low-ness. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D model overview
data below from: http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html which ones had a 5 SPEED MANUAL? I believe the 2.2 had both 4 and 5 speed. I don't know about the 2.5 NA...and the turbo would obviously be automatic only. Thanks! Chris 201.122 601.921 190D 2.2 1984-86 201.126 602.911 I5 190D 2.5 1987-89 201.128 602.961 190D 2.5 Turbo 1987 Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf, B20-getrieben -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
Best of both worlds. Buy the used one and put it in. Tear into the old one and see what you have. Hard parts are likely available new or used if you need them. My experience with re-built transmissions is not wonderful. I think the people who do them, generally do them as fast and cheap as they can. If you want it done well then you probably have to be prepared to pay a lot more than the average price advertised. Even then, I would wonder whether I had someone who cared or just someone who made more money on me. That is why I would be tempted to try it myself. I believe I have seen manuals advertised on rebuilding MB transmissions. What do you have to lose apart from some time (and your mind if it all goes bad!!) Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move My thoughts exactly. I'm going to rebuild a OM617, but I'm not ready for a tranny yet. Kaleb's offer on the used transmission is VERY tempting I intend to keep the car for a very long timeso, I'm not sure yet. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Having rebuilt domestic transmissions, I would caution one against doing this. The investment in time and tools doesn't work out compared to buying a reman from Rusty, not to mention the downtime. And what happens when you get it installed and it doesn't work? Just my $0.02... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Was: SDL won't move Now Tranny O'haul
-- Original message -- From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] My experience with re-built transmissions is not wonderful. I think the people who do them, generally do them as fast and cheap as they can. If you want it done well then you probably have to be prepared to pay a lot more than the average price advertised. _okiebenz.com I just had a FOMOCO Authorized rebuilt tranny put in my '95 PowerChoke F-250. Cost was $1817 Included all Ford authorized updates (Front Pump + Others) Install was about $850 What impressed me was the 3 year 75Kmi Ford Warentee. That includes in and out labor! Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Cut taxes, and spend, spend, spend. How long will this country last being run that way? Where did the fiscally responsible republican myth come from? Wasn't it Slick Willie who established China as a most-favored-nation trading partner and decoupled the standing renewal of that status from human rights audits? If I had to pin blame for the country's current economic straits on any particular person or policy, that would be it. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D model overview
Christopher McCann wrote: data below from: http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html which ones had a 5 SPEED MANUAL? I believe the 2.2 had both 4 and 5 speed. I don't know about the 2.5 NA...and the turbo would obviously be automatic only. I've never seen a 190d 2.2 or 2.5 manny without the 5sp overdrive. IIRC, the internal gearing on the 5sp was a bit lower than on the gas engine 5sp. I believe that 90+% of all the US 190 models in which the auto was optional had the auto, except for the 16v which was closer to 50/50 (and nobody seems to want the automatic 16v today). 2.5 diesel and 2.6 gas seem to be particularly rare with the 5sp. There are probably more converted 2.5 manny than factory ones in the USA. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: For some reason I am drawn to this
I think the only Ford V6 back then was the German 2.8. Gotta be a 300 I-6. Good engine, but some people claimed it liked to make egg shaped bores. I think that was more from bad oil than from the stroke to conrod ratio being high. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: For some reason I am drawn to this
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/634821523.html Is this old truck worth $600? Does it really have a V6 or is this another seller who thinks a straight-six is actually a V engine? I could sure use that flatbed and I like the colors. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
But the issue with Rusty's rebuild is the serious warranty record. 2 year unlimited mileage warranty, and Rusty has not had one returned yet. That's serious Luther On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:06:31 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best of both worlds. Buy the used one and put it in. Tear into the old one and see what you have. Hard parts are likely available new or used if you need them. My experience with re-built transmissions is not wonderful. I think the people who do them, generally do them as fast and cheap as they can. If you want it done well then you probably have to be prepared to pay a lot more than the average price advertised. Even then, I would wonder whether I had someone who cared or just someone who made more money on me. That is why I would be tempted to try it myself. I believe I have seen manuals advertised on rebuilding MB transmissions. What do you have to lose apart from some time (and your mind if it all goes bad!!) Randy -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT My Duramax needs injectors
So I have suspected my 02 Duramax needed injectors by the fact that it would smoke at idle, and is not getting the mileage it should. The local claremoron dealer I took it to a while back said no. I asked our sales guys at work who has the best service dept around here. So they tell me and I take the truck there. Yep, needs new injectors. The injectors for this thing are $400 a piece and are really buried down in the head. So the dealer is going to replace all 8 of them for free. It sure was good of the General to extend the warranty on those to 200k. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D model overview
thanks! cm Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: data below from: http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html which ones had a 5 SPEED MANUAL? I believe the 2.2 had both 4 and 5 speed. I don't know about the 2.5 NA...and the turbo would obviously be automatic only. I've never seen a 190d 2.2 or 2.5 manny without the 5sp overdrive. IIRC, the internal gearing on the 5sp was a bit lower than on the gas engine 5sp. I believe that 90+% of all the US 190 models in which the auto was optional had the auto, except for the 16v which was closer to 50/50 (and nobody seems to want the automatic 16v today). 2.5 diesel and 2.6 gas seem to be particularly rare with the 5sp. There are probably more converted 2.5 manny than factory ones in the USA. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
You wrote During Reagan's term, federal income doubled. Unfortunately, during the same time, federal spending tripled IIRC, RR made a deal to allow spending to increase in some areas (by authorizing the budget) with congress agreeing to cut spending. Unfortunatelty (for us) congress didn;t keep up their end of the deal. If they had, we would have seen a overall reduction in spending with an increase in some areas. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:54:53 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. 2/3 of them can. And the president can't do anything if the Congress doesn't provide the bill. In addition, the president can be taken captive by the Congress and the press boxing him in a corner by providing a bill that is difficult to veto. Trickle-down economics does work. During Reagan's term, federal income doubled. Unfortunately, during the same time, federal spending tripled. Should Reagan have shut down the government to force the Congress to come up with a responsible bill, not unlike what Clinton did? It's hard to say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Now that Hillary seems to have lost the party's nod to run - it'll be interesting to see how she responds. History has shown she's not happy playing 2nd fiddle. I understand she's already saying some pretty provocative things. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. Can override a veto. And if he _still_ won't do it they can impeach him and perhaps get someone who will. Takes cojones, however. Something in short supply in DC. Billary has them, but I prefer them grown the natural way rather than hanging loosely from the teeth. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
Geez, its going thru oil that fast? Its got problems. Luther wrote: I am desperate for this car The coupe and it's 1qt oil every 150-200 miles is killing me. On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:06:55 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Combination of factors obviously. The cost of the kit is minimal compared to a new tranny. Some of the tools can likely be home made versions. A press is nice to have in any event so buying it is not a bad idea. Worst case scenario is that you end up having to have it fixed or replaced anyway. In the meantime, you get an education of sorts. If I have been reading this right, Luther is not desperate for this car on a daily basis is he? Randy -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123TDT with with intermitent severe hesitation problem
Hey guys. Thanks alot for the great help in the past. Currently, I am having this problem where there is an intermitent severe hesitation when my foot is applied to the accelerator. I changed the fuel filters twice already in 30 days. Doing this helps out a little. Like for a week. The problem seems to happen when the car is 2/3rd's full of fuel in the diesel fuel tank. Any ideas? Thanks alot in advance! -- Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Maybe she will offer Osama bomo the vp position LarryT wrote: Now that Hillary seems to have lost the party's nod to run - it'll be interesting to see how she responds. History has shown she's not happy playing 2nd fiddle. I understand she's already saying some pretty provocative things. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. Can override a veto. And if he _still_ won't do it they can impeach him and perhaps get someone who will. Takes cojones, however. Something in short supply in DC. Billary has them, but I prefer them grown the natural way rather than hanging loosely from the teeth. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SDL wont move
'Had tranny in my 91 350SDL rebuilt a yr ago in Raleigh, NC for $2200. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT My Duramax needs injectors
WOW! A neighbor who is a service writer was telling me a few weeks ago that due to profit crunch, he was limited to a percentage of sales on how much he could authorize. It boiled down to if you tossed a rod at the end of the month, they would delay your claim until the next month. I'm think that dealer sure did right by you! Pete -- Original message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I have suspected my 02 Duramax needed injectors by the fact that it would smoke at idle, and is not getting the mileage it should. The local claremoron dealer I took it to a while back said no. I asked our sales guys at work who has the best service dept around here. So they tell me and I take the truck there. Yep, needs new injectors. The injectors for this thing are $400 a piece and are really buried down in the head. So the dealer is going to replace all 8 of them for free. It sure was good of the General to extend the warranty on those to 200k. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: For some reason I am drawn to this
If it's stock, its a very stout and somewhat thirsty I6. Sometimes had oiling problems to the head, look in oil hole and make sure the rockers are wet. Pete -- Original message -- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/634821523.html Is this old truck worth $600? Does it really have a V6 or is this another seller who thinks a straight-six is actually a V engine? I could sure use that flatbed and I like the colors. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: For some reason I am drawn to this
Not sure when they started, but I have an old '84 wagon a V6. i was thinking of a similar project, if I could find a clean rot free F100. The wagon's body is bad, but engine and trans only have 55,000 kms on them Ed 300E On 08/04/2008, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/634821523.html Is this old truck worth $600? Does it really have a V6 or is this another seller who thinks a straight-six is actually a V engine? I could sure use that flatbed and I like the colors. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
The newer screens have dynamic contrast, its just a hack but is quite noticeable. LCD's are alot more competitive with plasma these days. I would say plasma will be all by phased out sooner than later due to production costs vs that of LCD. Still no true black for LCD but pretty darn close. Samsung also makes panels for other manufacturers, I saw a Zenith? or some other US brand with a samsung screen for 200 less than that of the same sized samsung. Just make sure its an 8bit panel. -Rolf LWB250 wrote: A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D model overview
The 5speed was a heck of alot easier to find in the gassers and is more or less a direct swap over. A 190D 2.5 turbo with a blown auto tranny would make my year. -Rolf Christopher McCann wrote: data below from: http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html which ones had a 5 SPEED MANUAL? I believe the 2.2 had both 4 and 5 speed. I don't know about the 2.5 NA...and the turbo would obviously be automatic only. Thanks! Chris 201.122 601.921 190D 2.2 1984-86 201.126 602.911 I5 190D 2.5 1987-89 201.128 602.961 190D 2.5 Turbo 1987 Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf, B20-getrieben -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must... resist... temptation
Dude, I used to buy expensive cars like that when I was your age or younger. Its a bad mistake. Wait till they get cheaper and you can pay cash. That is my advice. Hell, for all I know you are paying cash now John Robbins wrote: So I get sent up to Huntsville for a week of training which puts me near an MB dealer... never a good thing. They have an '05 CDI on the lot, and I took it for a spin this afternoon... I really really really liked the car... that engine is AMAZING. Most cars have to downshift to do anything, but this was like a big V8... it just growls a little bit and you start going faster. The only complaints I have are that I like the seats in my W124 better (this could be because I didn't fiddle with the ones in the CDI long) and it doesn't have the satellite radio option. That is actually a deal breaker. The salesguy is going to call me back tomorrow with the service history, and what it will take to get the sat radio in... Oh, another complaint is that the car costs more than $5k ;) Its Anthracite Grey, has 67k miles on it, and they want $26k for it. Seems like a smoking deal to me. Has already hit 50% depreciation. :) Someone please talk me out of this!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels?
Anyone know if its required to have pressure on the intake or if I can just run a hose to some 55gal rain barrels I have? The rain barrels are great, fill up in one decent rain on avg, highly recommended for those of us in drought country. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels?
Great Idea, I doubt if that pump would self prime. Put the barrels up about 3 feet and they would gravity feed enough, pressure washing does not use too much water. Pete -- Original message -- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know if its required to have pressure on the intake or if I can just run a hose to some 55gal rain barrels I have? The rain barrels are great, fill up in one decent rain on avg, highly recommended for those of us in drought country. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Interesting that you think Bill Clinton had more to do with the internal political realities of China than did Mao [or quite a few hundred million Chinese]. Have you been listening to Rush? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Cut taxes, and spend, spend, spend. How long will this country last being run that way? Where did the fiscally responsible republican myth come from? Wasn't it Slick Willie who established China as a most-favored-nation trading partner and decoupled the standing renewal of that status from human rights audits? If I had to pin blame for the country's current economic straits on any particular person or policy, that would be it. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Bill R wrote: Interesting that you think Bill Clinton had more to do with the internal political realities of China than did Mao I interpreted his statement to mean that he thinks our trade policies with China have something to do with our country's economy. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
I believe that idea was floated in his direction a couple of months ago. I don't think either of them are after the #3 spot. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Maybe she will offer Osama bomo the vp position LarryT wrote: Now that Hillary seems to have lost the party's nod to run - it'll be interesting to see how she responds. History has shown she's not happy playing 2nd fiddle. I understand she's already saying some pretty provocative things. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. Can override a veto. And if he _still_ won't do it they can impeach him and perhaps get someone who will. Takes cojones, however. Something in short supply in DC. Billary has them, but I prefer them grown the natural way rather than hanging loosely from the teeth. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Thanks Mitch - Being one of those ADD kids I often jump around too much while reading and miss some important modifying words. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Bill R wrote: Interesting that you think Bill Clinton had more to do with the internal political realities of China than did Mao I interpreted his statement to mean that he thinks our trade policies with China have something to do with our country's economy. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Top Gear - insulting the USA southerners
Not being insulted by Top Gear is kind of an insult in itself .. There was an article about Jay Leno's Plea for NBC not to try to do a lame copy of it ... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/07/DDR0100NCB.DTL George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Top Gear - insulting the USA southerners Old but a classic. Mitch Haley wrote: Painting slogans on each others' cars, with points awarded for every time the other guy gets shot or arrested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky7SVILAcAU Favorite quote: Hammond: This is for every time Jeremy has called me hamster ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R wrote: Interesting that you think Bill Clinton had more to do with the internal political realities of China than did Mao I interpreted his statement to mean that he thinks our trade policies with China have something to do with our country's economy. Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I listen to Rush only for laughs. Guy gives conservatism a bad name. I miss Bill Buckley already. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I listen to Rush only for laughs. Guy gives conservatism a bad name. Only if you think he's conservative. I call him a Republican Stooge myself. Listening to the likes of Limburger and Hannity attack Ron Paul, I learned how much they hate real conservative values. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
I don't recall the word honorable ever being used to describe Bush's tenure in the National Guard. He clearly used his family connections as a means to avoid the draft and a combat stint in 'Nam. It would have been nice to hear him admit this instead of accepting the BS that his handlers came up with. I actually have no problem with Bush' avoiding service, but I took extreme exception to the blatant hypocrisy of the Bush campaign supporters who scorched John Kerry for his military record. Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded, and received a medal for his actions. On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT wrote: Actually Bush was in the National Guard - an honorable part of the US Military. The information presented (and partly created by) by Dan Rather has been proven to be totally fabricated. D Rather retired because of it instead of basking in the glow of liberal adulation for exposing Bush. I think that was totally unfair. Hire a newsreader. Give him falsehoods to read to the public. Force his resignation because the public distrusts him after the falsehoods you made him read are proven to be false. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: '95 Jag XJS on Portland CL
Now that's a good deal, unless it is trashed inside (which it probably is...) On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: The XJS rear quarter windows are inoperable, which is a non-starter for me. This one's got plenty of ventilation: http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=XT1470560D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: For some reason I am drawn to this
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/634821523.html Is this old truck worth $600? Does it really have a V6 or is this another seller who thinks a straight-six is actually a V engine? I could sure use that flatbed and I like the colors. Alex Chamberlain If it's running, the short answer is yes. Now go buy it. It may have a V6 engine, provided the original I6 or V8 was replaced at some point in it's life. Now go buy it. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are worse habits than Benzes, you know. Your wives should thank you daily. Wives? Most of America is firmly against multiple spouses, however if your culture is different I would be willing to learn at the feet of the master. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stay the same and we can get a Platinum Blue one. You're spoiled. Bob R What is it with Platinum Blue?? I say paint the motha pink. Silly blue keeps coming up, and I just don't see why. EdB ps - I think I'm painting my poor `66 Plum Crazy Purple -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
andrew strasfogel wrote: Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded, and received a medal for his actions. It was his actions after he came home and saw a way into politics by riding Jane Fonda's coattails that I have a problem with. I don't care as much about the way he got reassigned stateside. I might have done the same thing if I were in his shoes and if I thought of it (ask for purple hearts for one injury and two scratches, then ask for reassignment on the basis of three purple hearts). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: I listen to Rush only for laughs. Guy gives conservatism a bad name. Only if you think he's conservative. I call him a Republican Stooge myself. Listening to the likes of Limburger and Hannity attack Ron Paul, I learned how much they hate real conservative values. Yeah, we are in total agreement there. I don't think he's a real conservative either, but to an awful lot of people he's the only public face of conservatism they know. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: For some reason I am drawn to this
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/634821523.html Is this old truck worth $600? If it's running, the short answer is yes. Now go buy it. What's the long answer? :) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D
Ah yes. I didn't think to recognize whether the rpms were flaring when the hesitation occurred, and whether it lurched forward when the hesitation stopped. I bet it is fuel related. I do have new filters for the thing. So with a filter change: If the primer pump is operating properly, does one simply button back up the fuel system and then pump that thing until air isn't noticeable escaping anymore from the pump? I've not done it before. Or had they done away with the primer pump on this model (87 190D), and you just crank the starter 'til it self-purges? (yes, I spend as little time under the hood as I can get away with) Brian On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would definitely consider this a fuel problem, either water in the fuel, or dirty filters.??A dirty?cannister filter can restrict total fuel flow in a way that limits engine power, and this would be most obvious while climbing a hill.? Change both filters and consider cleaning the fuel tank suction strainer. A remote possibility is a clogged vent line on the fuel tank.? Driving the car up the same hill with tank cap removed would be a good test for that. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 3:02 am Subject: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D It's not too bad, but going up the hill near our house with a relatively cold 87 190D NA, I shifted down to 2 (the thing will not shift down itself) and felt some light hesitation that came and went as we climbed the hill. Wonder if this is more likely to be engine or tranny? I'm still too new to the klatta klub to know if a diesel can act this way. As for the tranny: Recently, I checked the fluid and found it barely on the stick. Due to how difficult it is to get a reading on the stick, and thinking its being probably a quart and a half low would allow me to gingerly drive it to the store, I tried to climb our steep but short hill leading out of our home. I felt significant loss of power in a sort of on-and-off fashion. Cringing, I surmised this to be tranny slipping. I shifted to neutral and coasted back down the hill into my garage. So, can low tranny fluid cause this sort of slipping? By the way, the tranny leaks at a fairly significant pace - hence its low-ness. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Bill R wrote: I believe that idea was floated in his direction a couple of months ago. At least if Hill and Barry share a ticket, it won't be as bad as GHWB trying to explain why 'voodoo economics' is suddenly good economics. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
Not really, and BTW, just because you disagree there was no need to make a gratuitous personal insult. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume you're talking about those who don't really care if they get hurt, or those too desperate or on too many drugs? Or perhaps you just care to sound superior, Andrew? Oh, I meant to end that win an ... Brian On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:41 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another dangerously defective analogy... On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:30 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, Larry. Years ago I came up with what I call The Yellow Line Theory. It's simple: What keeps drivers from crossing into oncoming traffic? They know they will be hurt as badly as those they hurt. Now apply this to guns. Brian On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:24 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your comparision of illegal drugs and illegal guns is *perfect*. People somehow expect a law that will remove all guns yet they haven't been able to do the same with drugs. Criminals ignore laws - if one of those people at VaTech had been allowed to keep their legal gun on campus the death toll might be much lower. After the extensive background check and training, those who carry a concealed weapon in Va are qualified to carry and to use a gun. Just 2 weeks before the murders the President of the college and others in Va had convinced the state legislature to *not* allow CCW holders to bring their guns on campus - and it cost 30 or more students their lives. IMO, the legislature and college administration are responsible for those deaths. Creating a defenseless victim zone only makes it easy for nut-jobs to kill people at will. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB
Why is it scary to you, Randy? Would you prefer a candidate who would be comfortable keeping us in Iraq indefinitely and maybe also declaring war on Iran? Would you favor an experienced candidate with lousy policies to an idealistic but less experienced one who has a good head and good ideas? Disclaimer: I am no fan of the Iranian regime but would support an anonymous surgical strike to take out their nuclear capability if that wouldn't lead to an all-out conflagration. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 3:13 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this the opposite. We hear references to Obama as the black John Kennedy. Either he, or a smart advisor has put him on the road to the top by speaking fairly eloquently about change. America is in a bit of a rough spot at the moment so change sells big time. He may not be able to pull it off and he may not even want to deep down, but talking about it may make him the next President. Scary stuff. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB Allan Streib wrote: I think that JFK was, as he said in his inaugural address, the first of a new generation to win the presidency. Born in this century, etc. He was young, and viewed as a break with the past, a fresh start, etc. In other words, a white Barak. Nothing of substance, but lots of feel good, and he spoke beautifully. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: For some reason I am drawn to this
Probably the long answer, is that it is not a bargain if you don't need it or have a real use for it. Consider the long term costs of having it hang around. If you think you can flip it for more money, don't waste your time. It has not real value beyond being useful. Apart from that, who knows? My father had a 67 F100 (Actually badged as a Mercury in Canada) that gave good service back when it was new. Some folks had difficulty with the twin I beam suspension eating tires. They are difficult to align if they get out of whack. You basically tie it down and then bend the arms using a hydraulic jack. Sort of a rough adjustment so you need to be lucky. The old Fords are good trucks. The new ones are even better for my money. Unless I really needed a beater truck, I think I would buy something newer. A 97 F150 is the first of the newer body style. They can't be all that expensive any more. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: For some reason I am drawn to this On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/634821523.html Is this old truck worth $600? If it's running, the short answer is yes. Now go buy it. What's the long answer? :) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
What did you do in your own shoes, Mitch? On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded, and received a medal for his actions. It was his actions after he came home and saw a way into politics by riding Jane Fonda's coattails that I have a problem with. I don't care as much about the way he got reassigned stateside. I might have done the same thing if I were in his shoes and if I thought of it (ask for purple hearts for one injury and two scratches, then ask for reassignment on the basis of three purple hearts). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '84, '85, '86 190D 2.2 5 sp manual - what changed over the years?
Any particular year preferred - '86, I imagine...but I don't know. Thanks, cm Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf, B20-getrieben -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
I looked at a couple of Samsungs at Dead Sam's today while I was passing through. One of them (I think it was a 40) said it had 5000:1, but other than that I didn't noticed any of the other specs. I didn't realize that LCDs had gotten up to those sorts of ratios - I thought that was one of the things that plasma screens had over LCDs. I don't think I'm going to make the leap until after we move - I need the $$ and it's one less thing to get screwed up in the move, too. These are all good things to know - thanks! Dan --- Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The newer screens have dynamic contrast, its just a hack but is quite noticeable. LCD's are alot more competitive with plasma these days. I would say plasma will be all by phased out sooner than later due to production costs vs that of LCD. Still no true black for LCD but pretty darn close. Samsung also makes panels for other manufacturers, I saw a Zenith? or some other US brand with a samsung screen for 200 less than that of the same sized samsung. Just make sure its an 8bit panel. -Rolf You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D
The 602 doesn't have a hand primer, so there's no pumping until you hear the pressure relief valve open. I don't pump my 617 either, I just change the inline filter before I go for a drive, and then when I get home I change the spin-on with the engine warm. Restart and hold 2000-2500 rpm with the throttle until it quits stumbling. (my 617 still has the original leaking primer pump) Zoltan Finks wrote: So with a filter change: If the primer pump is operating properly, does one simply button back up the fuel system and then pump that thing until air isn't noticeable escaping anymore from the pump? I've not done it before. Or had they done away with the primer pump on this model (87 190D), and you just crank the starter 'til it self-purges? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers, though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service. --R Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded, and received a medal for his actions. It was his actions after he came home and saw a way into politics by riding Jane Fonda's coattails that I have a problem with. I don't care as much about the way he got reassigned stateside. I might have done the same thing if I were in his shoes and if I thought of it (ask for purple hearts for one injury and two scratches, then ask for reassignment on the basis of three purple hearts). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blutec Dealer Loaners......
To the best of my knowledge that's what the dealer here in Tampa has been doing for some time, as when I have been in to pick up parts, I see everyone trotting over to the Enterprise desk to pick up their cars. Dan --- ANGELO GIAIMO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while ago, my local dealer sent out a letter stating they were no longer giving Mercedes (Mostly C class) cars as loaners due to mounting costs. Now there's an Enterprise car rental desk right next to the service writer's desk. They rent at discounted rates to customers who need a loaner.. We'll never see a Blutec diesel loaner here. Years ago, when I bought my 1'st new BMW (1979 320 I), my dealer used to give me a 530 i stick as a loaner, regurlarly when I brought my car in. When he did, I'd take the day off from work and go joy-riding. vbseg Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533 You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
andrew strasfogel wrote: What did you do in your own shoes, Mitch? I don't think I even noticed Vietnam until the '72 election cycle. I was born a couple of weeks after JFK died. The assassination hit my mother pretty hard, I was almost born early that day. When I was 18, it was my belief that a draft was not legitimate unless Congress declared war. So I probably would have been sharing a prison cell with Cassius Clay. I've since realized that a draft is not legitimate unless the Thirteenth Amendment is repealed, so if our nation is in danger, I'll volunteer. If not, forget it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not for the faint of heart. OM6XX rack limiter removal.
I did this (http://superturbodiesel.com/std/topic2.html) mod last weekend. Noticeable improvement across the board especially above 3k rpm. 3hours including a few trips to the store. I do not have an EGT sensor installed yet, but recommend it for anyone else (next project is swapping newer engine in so what me worry about the current one). -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Condi Rice for VP?
It ain't gonna happen because her long suit matches McCain's - foreign policy. He needs someone on the ticket who purports to be an expert on fixing the economy (not that it's broken, of course...). On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:17 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup - interesting, just like a case of the pox, or leprosy. OK -probably a bit over the top, I don't how much has been her idea, and how much she's just been following orders, but there is still that matter of guilt by association. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure some of you crazy crackpots (who think GWB is the worst president ever and is gleefully spitting on the constitution) :) won't like this, but it sure is an interesting idea. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/dan-senor-condo.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB
Just generally scary that we have a difficult time attracting really good people to public office and often cannot trust the one's who do volunteer to have the best interests of the people at heart. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB Why is it scary to you, Randy? Would you prefer a candidate who would be comfortable keeping us in Iraq indefinitely and maybe also declaring war on Iran? Would you favor an experienced candidate with lousy policies to an idealistic but less experienced one who has a good head and good ideas? Disclaimer: I am no fan of the Iranian regime but would support an anonymous surgical strike to take out their nuclear capability if that wouldn't lead to an all-out conflagration. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 3:13 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this the opposite. We hear references to Obama as the black John Kennedy. Either he, or a smart advisor has put him on the road to the top by speaking fairly eloquently about change. America is in a bit of a rough spot at the moment so change sells big time. He may not be able to pull it off and he may not even want to deep down, but talking about it may make him the next President. Scary stuff. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB Allan Streib wrote: I think that JFK was, as he said in his inaugural address, the first of a new generation to win the presidency. Born in this century, etc. He was young, and viewed as a break with the past, a fresh start, etc. In other words, a white Barak. Nothing of substance, but lots of feel good, and he spoke beautifully. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner
I am not so sure about all that. One wife is sufficient from my point of view. Maybe I'm getting old? Of course, on the other hand, if I had several of them out working, I could probably retire and play with old MB's. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bluetec Loaner On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are worse habits than Benzes, you know. Your wives should thank you daily. Wives? Most of America is firmly against multiple spouses, however if your culture is different I would be willing to learn at the feet of the master. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D
I'll give you $501. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D
OK, 505 and you deliver Kevin Kraly wrote: I'll give you $501. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans mount tab broke off
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Got a 201 that has the trans mount tab broke off the back of the tranny. Wonder what it would do if I didnt fix it? Probably not much I figure the stub will rest on the top of the trans mount maybe. WOuld rather fix it. Tried JB weld but it snapped off. Might try some fresh JB weld. Anybody got any other creative ideas? Dont really want to pull the back plate and swap it but I guess I could if it came down to it. Kaleb, take a piece of 3/16 1/4 metal flat iron and cut it to fit where the tab is broken off and using 1/4 pop rivets and secure it to the tranny, drill a hole for attaching to the cross member and that should hold it in place. Darrell W Sigmon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] anybody need a 606 pump?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-Diesel-Injector-Pump_W0QQitemZ320237449624QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33553QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT My Duramax needs injectors
Yep, needs new injectors. Shoulda bought a Cummins. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT My Duramax needs injectors
Cummins go thru injectors too from what I hear Kevin Kraly wrote: Yep, needs new injectors. Shoulda bought a Cummins. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT My Duramax needs injectors
Cummins go thru injectors too from what I hear. Just trying to have some fun. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody need a 606 pump?
yep, I think so Mitch Haley wrote: I'd rather have a 606 head and timing case. OTOH, didn't the 606 have 6mm pump elements instead of 5.5mm? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-Diesel-Injector-Pump_W0QQitemZ320237449624QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33553QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hesitation Causes in 190D
Well, since I found out that I don't have to use the dirty old hand pump, I think I'll keep 'er for the time being. At least until I can order up one of those high mileage badges of honor from MBUSA and then eventually apply it to the grille after 6 mo. of procrastinating. Brian On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you $501. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody need a 606 pump?
I'd rather have a 606 head and timing case. OTOH, didn't the 606 have 6mm pump elements instead of 5.5mm? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-Diesel-Injector-Pump_W0QQitemZ320237449624QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33553QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT My Duramax needs injectors
Not really, that's exhaust manifolds, and injector pumps if you get the wrong year. If you really get the wrong one, blocks crack. The duramaxes have the worst reputation for injectors. On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 04:17:25PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cummins go thru injectors too from what I hear ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
Okay, maybe my comment was a bit more personal than yours, but it's more than my disagreeing with you. It's reacting to your calling my position dangerously defective, and not offering any explanation - just getting in your quick jab and ... ing away as so often happens via this semi-anonymous communication tool that is the internet. I actually am interested in hearing why my position is bad and wrong. Brian On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:28 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really, and BTW, just because you disagree there was no need to make a gratuitous personal insult. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume you're talking about those who don't really care if they get hurt, or those too desperate or on too many drugs? Or perhaps you just care to sound superior, Andrew? Oh, I meant to end that win an ... Brian On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:41 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another dangerously defective analogy... On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:30 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, Larry. Years ago I came up with what I call The Yellow Line Theory. It's simple: What keeps drivers from crossing into oncoming traffic? They know they will be hurt as badly as those they hurt. Now apply this to guns. Brian On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:24 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your comparision of illegal drugs and illegal guns is *perfect*. People somehow expect a law that will remove all guns yet they haven't been able to do the same with drugs. Criminals ignore laws - if one of those people at VaTech had been allowed to keep their legal gun on campus the death toll might be much lower. After the extensive background check and training, those who carry a concealed weapon in Va are qualified to carry and to use a gun. Just 2 weeks before the murders the President of the college and others in Va had convinced the state legislature to *not* allow CCW holders to bring their guns on campus - and it cost 30 or more students their lives. IMO, the legislature and college administration are responsible for those deaths. Creating a defenseless victim zone only makes it easy for nut-jobs to kill people at will. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Rich Thomas wrote: Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers, though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service. WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge from the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody need a 606 pump?
Yes they do, someone on mshop or other forums has swapped up to this pump. $239 its worth it for the elements alone. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep, I think so Mitch Haley wrote: I'd rather have a 606 head and timing case. OTOH, didn't the 606 have 6mm pump elements instead of 5.5mm? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-Diesel-Injector-Pump_W0QQitemZ320237449624QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33553QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
I do know that they had some funky setup 4:3 on 16:9. I will check tonight as well, who is your provider? I have Dish. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
dish, and on their box, it has option to set what type of TV, such as 1080i, 720 etc. Also you can pic 16x9, 4x3 etc. All of which is set correct. Rolf wrote: I do know that they had some funky setup 4:3 on 16:9. I will check tonight as well, who is your provider? I have Dish. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb - Parts needed
Hi Kaleb - Just hoping you have gotten around to getting that seat bottom spring set for me. I am also needing the under door light and the visors with extensions if you have them in the correct color. Thanks - BillR mercleanint.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 10814 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080408/7d14583b/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
I honestly think its the history channel as I remember pic being skewed as well. I dont have OTA channels, locals all come in via dish. Pisses me off that I cant get PBS in hidef. Nova OTA with no compression artifacting was like heaven. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: dish, and on their box, it has option to set what type of TV, such as 1080i, 720 etc. Also you can pic 16x9, 4x3 etc. All of which is set correct. Rolf wrote: I do know that they had some funky setup 4:3 on 16:9. I will check tonight as well, who is your provider? I have Dish. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Mitch Haley wrote: I've since realized that a draft is not legitimate unless the Thirteenth Amendment is repealed, so if our nation is in danger, I'll volunteer. If not, forget it. Not only are you wrong, but you have been wrong for quite some time. This is an old issue. The Supreme Court took up this exact question and determined that the draft does not violate the 13th Amendment. Before the United States entered the first World War, the Court had anticipated the objection that compulsory military service would violate the Thirteenth Amendment and had answered it in the following words: ''It introduced no novel doctrine with respect of services always treated as exceptional, and certainly was not intended to interdict enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the State, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc. The great purpose in view was liberty under the protection of effective government, not the destruction of the latter by depriving it of essential powers.'' Accordingly, in the Selective Draft Law Cases, it dismissed the objection under that amendment as a contention that was ''refuted by its mere statement. In addition, The Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of the draft. The Supreme Court's opinions leave no doubt of the constitutional validity of the act. In United States v. O'Brien, upholding a statute prohibiting the destruction of selective service registrants' certificate of registration, the Court, speaking through Chief Justice Warren, thought ''[t]he power of Congress to classify and conscript manpower for military service is 'beyond question.'''http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/41.html#f1449#f1449 In noting Congress' ''broad constitutional power'' to raise and regulate armies and navies, the Court has specifically observed that the conscription act was passed ''pursuant to'' the grant of authority to Congress in clauses 12-14. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Not GWB, Kerry. He has not released his records. --R Donald Snook wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers, though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service. WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge from the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
A lot of the History HD stuff is not HD, and they zoom or stretch the std def stuff (even if it is widescreen on std def) to fit the HD 16:9, so sometimes things are a bit weird. --R Rolf wrote: I honestly think its the history channel as I remember pic being skewed as well. I dont have OTA channels, locals all come in via dish. Pisses me off that I cant get PBS in hidef. Nova OTA with no compression artifacting was like heaven. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: dish, and on their box, it has option to set what type of TV, such as 1080i, 720 etc. Also you can pic 16x9, 4x3 etc. All of which is set correct. Rolf wrote: I do know that they had some funky setup 4:3 on 16:9. I will check tonight as well, who is your provider? I have Dish. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT but related, way cool
I know a lot of you are really mechanical junkies, so this might be of interest. This web site is The Kinematic Models for Design Digital Library (KMODDL). http://kmoddl.library.cornell.edu/collection-toc.php It has lots of really cool mechanical devices, and a lot of old technical books that have been scanned and posted. It is a great time-waster but also a neat resource for technical info. Figured some of you might enjoy, as you ponder those German designs inside your cars. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Military Records - Bush Kerry was O/T Politics
A simple Google Search got this... More grist for the mill! Here's a link of military records for both Bush and Kerry.. go for it. As for me, I believe that past is prologue! http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/election2004/docs.html Have fun, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Apr 8, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Not GWB, Kerry. He has not released his records. --R Donald Snook wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers, though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service. WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge from the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Donald Snook wrote: WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge from the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973. Oh, I thought Rich was asking about JFK (JohnForbesKerry, not JohnFitzgeraldKennedy). Seems like after Kerry came stateside, he got some political ideas, and asked the Admiral he was working for to discharge him, as he conscientiously objected to the war and wanted to devote himself full time to his agitprop activities with VVAW (www.vvaw.org) and run for Congress. Can't let military service get in the way of political ambition, now, can we? It seems he requested the Swift Boat assignment himself. I've seen three explanations floating about for that. 1: He wanted to be like the other JFK. 2: He'd rather be the commander of a small boat than just another officer on a larger vessel, or 3: It was perceived to be relatively safe duty. http://25thaviation.org/johnkerry/id15.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
OK, here goes, although I'm not sure how this ties into your yellow line analogy. A gun is just as likely to kill you as protect you. It is impersonal. Having one means that you potentially allow someone else - a family member, friend, or criminal - the means to injure or kill you, even if by accident. For example, someone breaks into your house but isn't armed. You point a gun at him and he wrestles it away and shoots you. Were you really safer because of the gun? Or even if he were armed, if he knows/sees you are armed is he more or less likely to use his weapon? This is not to say there aren't murderers and evildoers out there intent on harming you, but I just don't see a net benefit in gun ownership. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, maybe my comment was a bit more personal than yours, but it's more than my disagreeing with you. It's reacting to your calling my position dangerously defective, and not offering any explanation - just getting in your quick jab and ... ing away as so often happens via this semi-anonymous communication tool that is the internet. I actually am interested in hearing why my position is bad and wrong. Brian On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:28 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really, and BTW, just because you disagree there was no need to make a gratuitous personal insult. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume you're talking about those who don't really care if they get hurt, or those too desperate or on too many drugs? Or perhaps you just care to sound superior, Andrew? Oh, I meant to end that win an ... Brian On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:41 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another dangerously defective analogy... On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:30 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, Larry. Years ago I came up with what I call The Yellow Line Theory. It's simple: What keeps drivers from crossing into oncoming traffic? They know they will be hurt as badly as those they hurt. Now apply this to guns. Brian On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:24 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your comparision of illegal drugs and illegal guns is *perfect*. People somehow expect a law that will remove all guns yet they haven't been able to do the same with drugs. Criminals ignore laws - if one of those people at VaTech had been allowed to keep their legal gun on campus the death toll might be much lower. After the extensive background check and training, those who carry a concealed weapon in Va are qualified to carry and to use a gun. Just 2 weeks before the murders the President of the college and others in Va had convinced the state legislature to *not* allow CCW holders to bring their guns on campus - and it cost 30 or more students their lives. IMO, the legislature and college administration are responsible for those deaths. Creating a defenseless victim zone only makes it easy for nut-jobs to kill people at will. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
OK - WTF is Dead Sams? On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of the History HD stuff is not HD, and they zoom or stretch the std def stuff (even if it is widescreen on std def) to fit the HD 16:9, so sometimes things are a bit weird. --R Rolf wrote: I honestly think its the history channel as I remember pic being skewed as well. I dont have OTA channels, locals all come in via dish. Pisses me off that I cant get PBS in hidef. Nova OTA with no compression artifacting was like heaven. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: dish, and on their box, it has option to set what type of TV, such as 1080i, 720 etc. Also you can pic 16x9, 4x3 etc. All of which is set correct. Rolf wrote: I do know that they had some funky setup 4:3 on 16:9. I will check tonight as well, who is your provider? I have Dish. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
That's what the block is for. On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:48:32 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, its going thru oil that fast? Its got problems. Luther wrote: I am desperate for this car The coupe and it's 1qt oil every 150-200 miles is killing me. On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:06:55 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Combination of factors obviously. The cost of the kit is minimal compared to a new tranny. Some of the tools can likely be home made versions. A press is nice to have in any event so buying it is not a bad idea. Worst case scenario is that you end up having to have it fixed or replaced anyway. In the meantime, you get an education of sorts. If I have been reading this right, Luther is not desperate for this car on a daily basis is he? Randy -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Well I figured it out. The dish remote has this format button on it. Guess it got pushed to zoom mode or something. Set it back to normal and its just like it should be. But yes, you are right, about half the stuff is not really HD Rich Thomas wrote: A lot of the History HD stuff is not HD, and they zoom or stretch the std def stuff (even if it is widescreen on std def) to fit the HD 16:9, so sometimes things are a bit weird. --R Rolf wrote: I honestly think its the history channel as I remember pic being skewed as well. I dont have OTA channels, locals all come in via dish. Pisses me off that I cant get PBS in hidef. Nova OTA with no compression artifacting was like heaven. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: dish, and on their box, it has option to set what type of TV, such as 1080i, 720 etc. Also you can pic 16x9, 4x3 etc. All of which is set correct. Rolf wrote: I do know that they had some funky setup 4:3 on 16:9. I will check tonight as well, who is your provider? I have Dish. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
oh Luther wrote: That's what the block is for. On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:48:32 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, its going thru oil that fast? Its got problems. Luther wrote: I am desperate for this car The coupe and it's 1qt oil every 150-200 miles is killing me. On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:06:55 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Combination of factors obviously. The cost of the kit is minimal compared to a new tranny. Some of the tools can likely be home made versions. A press is nice to have in any event so buying it is not a bad idea. Worst case scenario is that you end up having to have it fixed or replaced anyway. In the meantime, you get an education of sorts. If I have been reading this right, Luther is not desperate for this car on a daily basis is he? Randy -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
