[MBZ] 190E w/bad flywheel

[Luther]

A manual can be pull started and driven home, eh?  This could be a cheap 
project car?


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[MBZ] CHEAP Chicago 190D w/bad B2 piston

[Luther]

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/958765631.html
"Car needs transmission. Drives backward only. Very good body and 
interior condition. Pics upon request. Must see!!"


Wouldn't the seller crap if a person fixed the B2 and drove off? :)

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Re: [MBZ] plates

[Chuck Landenberger]

Arizona rear plates only.  On speed cameras, they take two pics, one  
of driver and one of rear plate.  I think the frame deal will be  
visual by a cop.


Chuck
On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:


Same in Alabama - rear plates only.




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Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

[Peter Merle]

Here in S .Africa one got a Chrome ( Stainless Steel ? ) backing plate ,
very much the same as the front one thats on the EPC. I'l try and find out
what the part number is.
PEter

2008/12/24 Wilton Strickland 

> Yes, I know.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Rentfro" 
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
>
>
> > That's what Chuck is talking about. Out here it seems every dealer has to
> > slap on their plate frame on your car when you buy it.
> > Or, any other type like the ones that say "My other car is a Mooney" or
> "I
> > heart my dog head".
> > Now when the speeding cameras take your picture they can tack on the
> extra
> > $135 for covering up "Arizona"
> >
> > Bob R
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:
> mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> > On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:08 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> >
> > That's why I've never seen one on a 123 - only the aftermarket crap.
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "TE" 
> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> >
> >
> > > I think hes talking about the mounting bracket... not a license plate
> > frame.
> > > I know my W126 had one, but both W123s ive owned only had the machine
> > screw
> > > holes in the body.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:17 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> > >
> > > Any such backing plates or "frames" that I've seen here in NC, USA, are
> > > after market, often also displaying somebody's
> advertisement/dealership,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Wilton
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Peter Merle" 
> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:40 PM
> > > Subject: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm trying to find out if US and / or European W123 sedans came with
> a
> > > > chromed rear license plate backing plate. Local - South African ones
> did
> > > but
> > > > I have a German import and that one appears not to have one - not
> sure
> > if
> > > > that's correct for that car or not. Anyone know ?
> > > > PEter
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Re: [MBZ] plates

[Tom Hargrave]

Same in Alabama - rear plates only.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] plates

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:49:52 EST relng...@aol.com wrote:

> > ..Now when the speeding cameras take your picture they can tack on
> > the extra $135 for covering up "Arizona"
>
> I decided to leave the required front plate and it's bracket off my
> W204. So far at 14 months, no interest from the po-leece. Does make it
> harder to get a lock-on by laser.

In New Mexico we only have rear plates.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] plates

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:49:52 EST relng...@aol.com wrote:

> > ..Now when the speeding cameras take your picture they can tack on
> > the extra $135 for covering up "Arizona"
>
> I decided to leave the required front plate and it's bracket off my
> W204. So far at 14 months, no interest from the po-leece. Does make it
> harder to get a lock-on by laser.

In New Mexico we only have rear plates.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] plates

[RELNGSON]

> ..Now when the speeding cameras take your picture they can tack on the 
> extra
> $135 for covering up "Arizona"
> 
I decided to leave the required front plate and it's bracket off my W204. So 
far at 14 months, no interest from the po-leece. Does make it harder to get a 
lock-on by laser.

RLE
> 
> 




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Re: [MBZ] License Plate Frames

[Rich Thomas]

They did that a coupla years ago in Texas too, and everybody got really 
angry about it, so they rescinded the law.  It was "another tool in the 
police toolkit" to pull someone over for some lame reason.


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Chuck Landenberger wrote:

Just a reminder to all the Arizonans on the list..

On January 1, 2009, the word "ARIZONA" on the top of your license 
plate must be completely readable and not covered by a frame.   Fine 
is $135.00 plus court costs that vary by city/county  Does not 
apply to cars' license plates and frames of other states while in 
Arizona.


With that note - A very Merry Christmas and good wishes to everyone of 
all faiths..


Take care and be safe,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

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Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

[Wilton Strickland]

Yes, I know.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Robert Rentfro" 
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing


> That's what Chuck is talking about. Out here it seems every dealer has to
> slap on their plate frame on your car when you buy it.
> Or, any other type like the ones that say "My other car is a Mooney" or "I
> heart my dog head".
> Now when the speeding cameras take your picture they can tack on the extra
> $135 for covering up "Arizona"
>
> Bob R
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:08 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
>
> That's why I've never seen one on a 123 - only the aftermarket crap.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "TE" 
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
>
>
> > I think hes talking about the mounting bracket... not a license plate
> frame.
> > I know my W126 had one, but both W123s ive owned only had the machine
> screw
> > holes in the body.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> > On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:17 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> >
> > Any such backing plates or "frames" that I've seen here in NC, USA, are
> > after market, often also displaying somebody's advertisement/dealership,
> > etc.
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Peter Merle" 
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:40 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> >
> >
> > > I'm trying to find out if US and / or European W123 sedans came with a
> > > chromed rear license plate backing plate. Local - South African ones
did
> > but
> > > I have a German import and that one appears not to have one - not sure
> if
> > > that's correct for that car or not. Anyone know ?
> > > PEter
> > > -- next part --
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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[MG]

Thanks Fred, Do you know how they compare to other brands? From reading 
old email it seems that the best might be USR and from what I could 
figure out Linksys is the one not to get. I don't know enough about this 
stuff to know one from the other.


Manfred



Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:24:41 -0500
From: Frederick W Moir 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help


Manfred.
Tiger direct is having a sale on a D-Link N wireless router for $40
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3334084&sku=D700-2328
YMMV
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Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

[Robert Rentfro]

That's what Chuck is talking about. Out here it seems every dealer has to
slap on their plate frame on your car when you buy it. 
Or, any other type like the ones that say "My other car is a Mooney" or "I
heart my dog head".
Now when the speeding cameras take your picture they can tack on the extra
$135 for covering up "Arizona"

Bob R

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:08 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

That's why I've never seen one on a 123 - only the aftermarket crap.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "TE" 
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing


> I think hes talking about the mounting bracket... not a license plate
frame.
> I know my W126 had one, but both W123s ive owned only had the machine
screw
> holes in the body.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:17 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
>
> Any such backing plates or "frames" that I've seen here in NC, USA, are
> after market, often also displaying somebody's advertisement/dealership,
> etc.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter Merle" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:40 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
>
>
> > I'm trying to find out if US and / or European W123 sedans came with a
> > chromed rear license plate backing plate. Local - South African ones did
> but
> > I have a German import and that one appears not to have one - not sure
if
> > that's correct for that car or not. Anyone know ?
> > PEter
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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:48:42 -0500 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> I guess I never mentioned what I'm using with my cell modem, it's just a
> basic corner reflector, which I believe adds about 3db.

Depends upon the size of the reflector.


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Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

[Wilton Strickland]

That's why I've never seen one on a 123 - only the aftermarket crap.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "TE" 
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing


> I think hes talking about the mounting bracket... not a license plate
frame.
> I know my W126 had one, but both W123s ive owned only had the machine
screw
> holes in the body.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:17 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
>
> Any such backing plates or "frames" that I've seen here in NC, USA, are
> after market, often also displaying somebody's advertisement/dealership,
> etc.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter Merle" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:40 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
>
>
> > I'm trying to find out if US and / or European W123 sedans came with a
> > chromed rear license plate backing plate. Local - South African ones did
> but
> > I have a German import and that one appears not to have one - not sure
if
> > that's correct for that car or not. Anyone know ?
> > PEter
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Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

[LWB250]

The 126 had a license plate mounting plate, but the only ones I ever saw were 
painted black.

Dan

--- On Tue, 12/23/08, TE  wrote:

> From: TE 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 9:46 PM
> I think hes talking about the
> mounting bracket... not a license plate frame.
> I know my W126 had one, but both W123s ive owned only had
> the machine screw
> holes in the body.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:17 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> 
> Any such backing plates or "frames" that I've seen here in
> NC, USA, are
> after market, often also displaying somebody's
> advertisement/dealership,
> etc.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter Merle" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:40 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing
> 
> 
> > I'm trying to find out if US and / or European W123
> sedans came with a
> > chromed rear license plate backing plate. Local -
> South African ones did
> but
> > I have a German import and that one appears not to
> have one - not sure if
> > that's correct for that car or not. Anyone know ?
> > PEter
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Re: [MBZ] Got the MB WIS installed, trying to look up info on the 140

[Russ Williams]

Chris,

Wis Loosely translated i.e. Work Information Station.
Like the Old CD's but on Super Steroids.
WIS has a BAD Habit of pulling an ET on you, i.e. it Wants To Phone Home 
all the time.

Make sure you disable your network connection before you launch it.

DAS is the Diagnostic Analysis System. It's the system that hooks up to 
the Car's Master
Computer. Very powerful piece of software. Has to have an interface 
box that goes
between the computer and the car's interface. Interface box is nothing 
that the average
owner wants to buy IIRC it's between 5 and 10 grand. On cars that have 
the hydraulic

leveling system you and use DAS to set the base ride height.

My Buddy's shop has 2 of these puppies. BMW also has a similar system.

Russ W.
'83 240D x2

Christopher McCann wrote:

What is WIS? I am familiar with the EPC and the service manuals on CD, but not 
WIS. Tried to get some info via google and saw something called the DAS 
mentioned too...don't know what that is either. Most of what I found was about 
how hard the program is to install and use. I'm curious what these programs are.

Chris



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Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

[TE]

I think hes talking about the mounting bracket... not a license plate frame.
I know my W126 had one, but both W123s ive owned only had the machine screw
holes in the body.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

Any such backing plates or "frames" that I've seen here in NC, USA, are
after market, often also displaying somebody's advertisement/dealership,
etc.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing


> I'm trying to find out if US and / or European W123 sedans came with a
> chromed rear license plate backing plate. Local - South African ones did
but
> I have a German import and that one appears not to have one - not sure if
> that's correct for that car or not. Anyone know ?
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Re: [MBZ] OT memory

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I think I was getting solid 2 sec beeps.

Frederick W Moir wrote:

Hi, All.
Anyone need two 256mb memory chips for a Dell Power Edge server? Free 
for the asking. KTD-PE2400/256 + Kvm133X72RC3/256. I too buy the wrong 
memory.
Kaleb. laptops usually have double sided Sdram. On some older laptop 
systems there are some chips that only work on one side, so if they work 
at all you have half the memory showing up.
A steady 2 sec. interval beep is the memory isn't here/working, also 5 
(or so) beeps repeated is also memory conflicts. Which laptop exactly 
are you working on? HTH

Fred Moir
Lynn MA


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Re: [MBZ] OT memory

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

this is not a laptop, its a desktop

Frederick W Moir wrote:

Hi, All.
Anyone need two 256mb memory chips for a Dell Power Edge server? Free 
for the asking. KTD-PE2400/256 + Kvm133X72RC3/256. I too buy the wrong 
memory.
Kaleb. laptops usually have double sided Sdram. On some older laptop 
systems there are some chips that only work on one side, so if they work 
at all you have half the memory showing up.
A steady 2 sec. interval beep is the memory isn't here/working, also 5 
(or so) beeps repeated is also memory conflicts. Which laptop exactly 
are you working on? HTH

Fred Moir
Lynn MA


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Re: [MBZ] License Plate Frames

[Wonko the Sane]

It is a Homeland Security thing.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Chuck Landenberger  wrote:

> Just a reminder to all the Arizonans on the list..
>
> On January 1, 2009, the word "ARIZONA" on the top of your license plate
> must be completely readable and not covered by a frame.   Fine is $135.00
> plus court costs that vary by city/county  Does not apply to cars'
> license plates and frames of other states while in Arizona.
>
> With that note - A very Merry Christmas and good wishes to everyone of all
> faiths..
>
> Take care and be safe,
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
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Re: [MBZ] License Plate Frames

[Kevin]

And for those visiting california (whether for a short time or part of a 
lifetime), the legislature has deemed texting while driving a bad idea
(go figure), but has decided, in the name of safety and tax collecting, to
make it illegal. Goes into effect the first.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:52:49PM -1000, Chuck Landenberger wrote:
> Just a reminder to all the Arizonans on the list..
> 
> On January 1, 2009, the word "ARIZONA" on the top of your license  
> plate must be completely readable and not covered by a frame.   Fine  
> is $135.00 plus court costs that vary by city/county  Does not  
> apply to cars' license plates and frames of other states while in  
> Arizona.
> 
> With that note - A very Merry Christmas and good wishes to everyone  
> of all faiths..
> 
> Take care and be safe,

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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[LWB250]

I would ago with Mitch's suggestion.  A cantenna is really directional, and 
might be a PITA to set up.  A corner reflector is easy to build out of scrap 
stuff and has pretty good gain as long as you're careful about dimensions.

Dan

--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> From: Mitch Haley 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 8:48 PM
> Bill R wrote:
> > Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile
> back there were any
> > number of suggestions and links to plans for making
> homemade antennas that
> > were supposed to be good. 
> 
> I guess I never mentioned what I'm using with my cell
> modem, it's just a basic corner reflector, which I believe
> adds about 3db. The distance from the dipole antenna to the
> corner of the aluminum foil reflector is based on the
> wavelength, I think it's around 2" for wifi. All you need is
> part of a cardboard box and some aluminum foil, and a
> knowledge of the direction the signal is in.
> 
> Mitch.
> 
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[MBZ] License Plate Frames

[Chuck Landenberger]

Just a reminder to all the Arizonans on the list..

On January 1, 2009, the word "ARIZONA" on the top of your license  
plate must be completely readable and not covered by a frame.   Fine  
is $135.00 plus court costs that vary by city/county  Does not  
apply to cars' license plates and frames of other states while in  
Arizona.


With that note - A very Merry Christmas and good wishes to everyone  
of all faiths..


Take care and be safe,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

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Re: [MBZ] Got the MB WIS installed, trying to look up info on the 140

[TE]

Actually, its werkstattinformationssystem.

WIS is pretty awesome
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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[Mitch Haley]

Bill R wrote:

Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile back there were any
number of suggestions and links to plans for making homemade antennas that
were supposed to be good. 


I guess I never mentioned what I'm using with my cell modem, it's just a basic 
corner reflector, which I believe adds about 3db. The distance from the dipole 
antenna to the corner of the aluminum foil reflector is based on the wavelength, 
I think it's around 2" for wifi. All you need is part of a cardboard box and 
some aluminum foil, and a knowledge of the direction the signal is in.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] I cant find parts

[Wonko the Sane]

My kids are roughly Kaleb's age.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Kevin  wrote:

> I'm roughly his age and I've forgotten where I've put cars before. Suppose
> you'd have to see my place to understand that. No, I don't have pictures.
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 06:39:13PM -0600, Wonko the Sane wrote:
> > You are too young for that. Wait until you get into the age bracket for
> LT
> > Don / OKDonn / Loren!
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Re: [MBZ] I cant find parts

[Kevin]

I'm roughly his age and I've forgotten where I've put cars before. Suppose
you'd have to see my place to understand that. No, I don't have pictures.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 06:39:13PM -0600, Wonko the Sane wrote:
> You are too young for that. Wait until you get into the age bracket for LT
> Don / OKDonn / Loren!

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Re: [MBZ] OT memory

[Frederick W Moir]

Douglas.
Address? off list.
Fred Moir

At 07:40 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote:

Sure I could use them..

Douglas



Hi, All.
Anyone need two 256mb memory chips for a Dell Power Edge server? 
Free for the asking. KTD-PE2400/256 + Kvm133X72RC3/256. I too buy 
the wrong memory.
Kaleb. laptops usually have double sided Sdram. On some older 
laptop systems there are some chips that only work on one side, so 
if they work at all you have half the memory showing up.
A steady 2 sec. interval beep is the memory isn't here/working, 
also 5 (or so) beeps repeated is also memory conflicts. Which 
laptop exactly are you working on? HTH

Fred Moir
Lynn MA



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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[MG]

Well the cantenna probably won't fly. I think that's why she was asking 
about a router because that would provide the best option as to 
connections and then if anyone else in her trailer wants to buy in to 
the connection that would make that easier as well as lower the cost for 
all.


The 2 blast barriers are taller then the trailers and a foot thick so 
that tends to attenuate the signal quite a bit which is why her laptop 
isn't doing too good and she is hoping that a router in her trailer will 
have better reception both ways.


Manfred



Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:53:53 -0800
From: Redghost 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help


For antenna upgrading, a Pringles Cantenna is superb.  Might be an
issue with getting it hooked to her internal antenna though.

Using a router as an access point would also solve the issue.  She
would want to place it up high as close to the other routers to get
strong signal

clay

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Re: [MBZ] OT memory

[Douglas]

Sure I could use them..

Douglas



Hi, All.
Anyone need two 256mb memory chips for a Dell Power Edge server? Free for 
the asking. KTD-PE2400/256 + Kvm133X72RC3/256. I too buy the wrong memory.
Kaleb. laptops usually have double sided Sdram. On some older laptop 
systems there are some chips that only work on one side, so if they work 
at all you have half the memory showing up.
A steady 2 sec. interval beep is the memory isn't here/working, also 5 (or 
so) beeps repeated is also memory conflicts. Which laptop exactly are you 
working on? HTH

Fred Moir
Lynn MA


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Re: [MBZ] I cant find parts

[Wonko the Sane]

You are too young for that. Wait until you get into the age bracket for LT
Don / OKDonn / Loren!

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> I hate it when I cant find parts I ordered from Rusty I know I have laying
> around.  For instance, I know I have a new thermostat I bought a while back
> that I now need, cant find it.  Guess I will have to order another one, the
> the one I have will turn up.
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Re: [MBZ] Chuck L and bama

[Loren Faeth]

Looks like it is near the canal.  Appears to be either along the 
beach, and or near the canal, or it is on mokapu point, and not 
actually on the beach.  Anyhow Chuck, they appear to be right behind 
the Pali Palms or just across the bridge, so they are in your 
backyard, almost.  I watched a little video to see if I could figure 
it out.  I guess it could be in lanikai, and the end of the beach I 
see is actually Lanikai beach, not K beach, as reported.  I am 
guessing the Media circus knows the difference between K and Lanikai.



At 05:18 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote:
Wow!  Glad to heat that.  Maybe they are down toward Lanikai, or 
better yet, on down by Waimanalo where Magnum was filmed in the 
gated estates.  But what I heard was the media whining because 
Kailua was a (oh my GOSH, THIS iS TERRIBLE) public beach.


Have you been down Kalaheo to  look?

Merry Christmas!  Don't get a sunburn!

The second house we house sat was near the entrance to K Beach park, 
and that is getting close to Lanikai.  We went from there to Mokapu, 
and from there to Aikahi Park.



At 02:05 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote:

Thanks Loren,

Haven't seen any yellow brick road being built to my son's home.  And
I think we are on the same wrong side of the canal as you were

Merry Christmas to all and to all good fortune and blessings...

Take care,

Chuck

PS.  I went into Border's yesterday, looking for an O'Reilly book
for my DIL's father.  And what author do you think I found to the
LEFT of O'Reilly's books  Obama.  All due to alphabetical
orientation rather than political

C.
On Dec 23, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:


Just heard a report that bama has crashed Chuck L's family
Christmas.   Seems as though bama chose to vacation near Chuck's
son's family.  What a way to ruin a neighborhood!  having all the
streets and the beach plugged up, and the accompanying media circus
trashing the area is NOT a nice way to spend Christmas.  My guess
is that I have been in the house the lord, most high, bama, and all
the bamites are staying in.  It is my old neighborhood too, only I
lived on the "wrong" side if the canal.

Anyhow, We should wish Chuck and his family well for this Christmas!




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Re: [MBZ] sliced to ribbons

[slozuk...@htva.net]

Used to have a John Deere AO that you had to spin the flywheel to start.  Mind 
you, it was mounted on the side of the tractor and there were valves to release 
some of the compression but it was still interesting to start.  My friends 
model T used to be fun when i had good wrists.MAN can that little 4 banger 
kick your ass if you didn't know how to do it just right.  

Mike
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From: OK Don 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] sliced to ribbons

Not at ALL !!!  Did try the 300hp Jacobs once - didn't succeed.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:15 PM,   wrote:
>> ...I hand cranked the MGA a couple of times - jsut to do it. That engine
>> was enough - don't want to try a Diesel. I guess hand propping a 65hp
>> Lycoming counts as well?..
>>
> Not as exciting as hand propping a 3-blade 285hp Continental with a non-pilot
> holding the brakes.
>
> RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[Frederick W Moir]

Manfred.
Tiger direct is having a sale on a D-Link N wireless router for $40
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3334084&sku=D700-2328
YMMV
Fred Moir

At 07:18 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote:
Yeah that's what I would do but she isn't that into making something 
like that. I would also expect that that would be kind of overkill 
for the short distance involved. They might get into trouble by 
covering other communications if it got too powerful. So she was 
just looking for a real good off-the-shelf piece that would let her 
connect and then bring home to use at home when the time comes.


Manfred



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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Laptop Recovery

[MG]

No then you probably won't get to the setup that way. If you can tell me 
what brand and model and if possible start it up so that you can get to 
the setup and tell me what bios it has. Then put the memory in and tell 
me what pattern of beeps it does. Sometimes they can tell you a bit 
about what is wrong. It may or may not repeat the beep pattern.


Manfred



Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:16:16 -0600
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. Laptop Recovery


I will try that.  When you turn this thing on, at the first screen it
tells you to hit f2 to go into setup.  With this memory problem, it
 just
beeps and does not show the screen.  I did not try hitting f2 anyway
 though.

MG wrote:
> Just thought of something. Try hitting F2 repeatedly after you turn
 it
> on. That should get you into setup. See if there is an option to set
 the
> memory size there. Even if not at least save the new setup and then
 try
> to boot. That may do the trick. I seem to remember that some old
 laptops
> I had need this step to work right.

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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[MG]

Yeah that's what I would do but she isn't that into making something 
like that. I would also expect that that would be kind of overkill for 
the short distance involved. They might get into trouble by covering 
other communications if it got too powerful. So she was just looking for 
a real good off-the-shelf piece that would let her connect and then 
bring home to use at home when the time comes.


Manfred



Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:13:56 -0500
From: "Bill R" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router help


Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile back there were any
number of suggestions and links to plans for making homemade antennas
 that
were supposed to be good.  I plan to try one or more of them soon.  I
 had
cataract surgery this morning so I should soon be better at reading the
small print and figuring out what might work, though I am having a bit
 of a
hard time typing at the moment.
BillR

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[MBZ] OT memory

[Frederick W Moir]

Hi, All.
Anyone need two 256mb memory chips for a Dell Power Edge server? Free 
for the asking. KTD-PE2400/256 + Kvm133X72RC3/256. I too buy the wrong memory.
Kaleb. laptops usually have double sided Sdram. On some older laptop 
systems there are some chips that only work on one side, so if they 
work at all you have half the memory showing up.
A steady 2 sec. interval beep is the memory isn't here/working, also 
5 (or so) beeps repeated is also memory conflicts. Which laptop 
exactly are you working on? HTH

Fred Moir
Lynn MA


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Re: [MBZ] sliced to ribbons

[OK Don]

Not at ALL !!!  Did try the 300hp Jacobs once - didn't succeed.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:15 PM,   wrote:
>> ...I hand cranked the MGA a couple of times - jsut to do it. That engine
>> was enough - don't want to try a Diesel. I guess hand propping a 65hp
>> Lycoming counts as well?..
>>
> Not as exciting as hand propping a 3-blade 285hp Continental with a non-pilot
> holding the brakes.
>
> RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Chuck L and bama

[Rich Thomas]

Apparently he was out walking topless, and the word was he has moobs and 
a manscape.  YW.  No word on whether Michelle was out in a bikini.


--R

Loren Faeth wrote:
Wow!  Glad to heat that.  Maybe they are down toward Lanikai, or 
better yet, on down by Waimanalo where Magnum was filmed in the gated 
estates.  But what I heard was the media whining because Kailua was a 
(oh my GOSH, THIS iS TERRIBLE) public beach.


Have you been down Kalaheo to  look?

Merry Christmas!  Don't get a sunburn!

The second house we house sat was near the entrance to K Beach park, 
and that is getting close to Lanikai.  We went from there to Mokapu, 
and from there to Aikahi Park.



At 02:05 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote:

Thanks Loren,

Haven't seen any yellow brick road being built to my son's home.  And
I think we are on the same wrong side of the canal as you were

Merry Christmas to all and to all good fortune and blessings...

Take care,

Chuck

PS.  I went into Border's yesterday, looking for an O'Reilly book
for my DIL's father.  And what author do you think I found to the
LEFT of O'Reilly's books  Obama.  All due to alphabetical
orientation rather than political

C.
On Dec 23, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:


Just heard a report that bama has crashed Chuck L's family
Christmas.   Seems as though bama chose to vacation near Chuck's
son's family.  What a way to ruin a neighborhood!  having all the
streets and the beach plugged up, and the accompanying media circus
trashing the area is NOT a nice way to spend Christmas.  My guess
is that I have been in the house the lord, most high, bama, and all
the bamites are staying in.  It is my old neighborhood too, only I
lived on the "wrong" side if the canal.

Anyhow, We should wish Chuck and his family well for this Christmas!




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Re: [MBZ] Chuck L and bama

[Loren Faeth]

Wow!  Glad to heat that.  Maybe they are down toward Lanikai, or 
better yet, on down by Waimanalo where Magnum was filmed in the gated 
estates.  But what I heard was the media whining because Kailua was a 
(oh my GOSH, THIS iS TERRIBLE) public beach.


Have you been down Kalaheo to  look?

Merry Christmas!  Don't get a sunburn!

The second house we house sat was near the entrance to K Beach park, 
and that is getting close to Lanikai.  We went from there to Mokapu, 
and from there to Aikahi Park.



At 02:05 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote:

Thanks Loren,

Haven't seen any yellow brick road being built to my son's home.  And
I think we are on the same wrong side of the canal as you were

Merry Christmas to all and to all good fortune and blessings...

Take care,

Chuck

PS.  I went into Border's yesterday, looking for an O'Reilly book
for my DIL's father.  And what author do you think I found to the
LEFT of O'Reilly's books  Obama.  All due to alphabetical
orientation rather than political

C.
On Dec 23, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:


Just heard a report that bama has crashed Chuck L's family
Christmas.   Seems as though bama chose to vacation near Chuck's
son's family.  What a way to ruin a neighborhood!  having all the
streets and the beach plugged up, and the accompanying media circus
trashing the area is NOT a nice way to spend Christmas.  My guess
is that I have been in the house the lord, most high, bama, and all
the bamites are staying in.  It is my old neighborhood too, only I
lived on the "wrong" side if the canal.

Anyhow, We should wish Chuck and his family well for this Christmas!




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Re: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing

[Wilton Strickland]

Any such backing plates or "frames" that I've seen here in NC, USA, are
after market, often also displaying somebody's advertisement/dealership,
etc.

Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rear License plate backing


> I'm trying to find out if US and / or European W123 sedans came with a
> chromed rear license plate backing plate. Local - South African ones did
but
> I have a German import and that one appears not to have one - not sure if
> that's correct for that car or not. Anyone know ?
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Re: [MBZ] Laid off? [was: Re: OT: 1Gb fibre channel]

[Loren Faeth]

COBRA sucks. You are better off buying a catastrophic medical 
policy.  I think my COBRA was close to 2k a month in 1991.  That was 
family coverage.  It was not an outstanding coverage. It put me in 
the hole bug time!


At 10:35 AM 12/23/2008, you wrote:
If it was anything like the COBRA from my wife's former employer, 
it's going to be BIG bucks.,  Her COBRA (which covered the family) 
was about $1900/month.  My oldest son used his part of it (you can 
activate individuals or the whole family) and he was paying $485/month.  Ouch.


Dan


--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> From: Mitch Haley 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Laid off? [was: Re:  OT: 1Gb fibre channel]
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 10:36 AM
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > yea, do tell, Im fixing to be laid off myself.  I
> will have severance pay for a while, and am debating on if I
> want to find a job, or just draw unemployment for a while
> and screw around with cars.  Probably better try and
> find a job with ins asap, sure as I dont I will have a
> massive heart attack or something.
>
> How long will Cocks pay your insurance?
> How much would you have to pay for COBRA coverage on the
> five of you?
> (probably you don't want to know the price on that)
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] I cant find parts

[Loren Faeth]

No US, but they do have H4 lamps in them.  I had planned to keep the 
H4s, but not sure now.


At 02:01 PM 12/23/2008, you wrote:
These wouldn't be the European style 115 headlights would they??? If 
so, we should talk.


Randy

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I cant find parts


I know the feeling.  When I had a real garage, I had a shelf for
keeping parts on.  I am in the process of sorting through things and
finding parts I didn't remember I had.  I will be listing them soon
after the first of the year.  Most are 124 and 126 parts.  Found a
new 124 star, still in the bag that I don't need.  I am trying
to  put all the parts I find in one place.

I also have 115 headlights, 108 lights etc.

At 10:22 AM 12/23/2008, you wrote:
>I hate it when I cant find parts I ordered from Rusty I know I have
>laying around.  For instance, I know I have a new thermostat I
>bought a while back that I now need, cant find it.  Guess I will
>have to order another one, the the one I have will turn up.
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Re: [MBZ] Got the MB WIS installed, trying to look up info on the 140

[Hendrik & Fay]

Oooh yeah, for anyone handy with torrents this might be worth a look 
http://www.torrentz.com/a665dadb30fa5d09c30516a11149c44843875f96

Personally I bought a cheap CD off ebay.

Hendrik

Christopher McCann wrote:

What is WIS? I am familiar with the EPC and the service manuals on CD, but not 
WIS. Tried to get some info via google and saw something called the DAS 
mentioned too...don't know what that is either. Most of what I found was about 
how hard the program is to install and use. I'm curious what these programs are.

Chris


  

  



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Re: [MBZ] i'm watching monday night football

[Robert Rentfro]

It was stupid cold. It looked like someone just running a bunch of GI Joe
dolls into each other.

Bob R

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Subject: [MBZ] i'm watching monday night football

and what a crappy brand of football this old NFC central plays.  these teams
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Re: [MBZ] Got the MB WIS installed, trying to look up info on the 140

[Hendrik & Fay]

Not sure if there are different versions but mine has no info on cars 
pre 84 and yes it was a pain to install.
Another problem of course is that every job requires a special tool and 
they don't give you alternatives, however it is handy for some things.


Hendrik

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
workshop information system, its what dealers use to work on your car 
at the dealer.


Christopher McCann wrote:
What is WIS? I am familiar with the EPC and the service manuals on 
CD, but not WIS. Tried to get some info via google and saw something 
called the DAS mentioned too...don't know what that is either. Most 
of what I found was about how hard the program is to install and use. 
I'm curious what these programs are.


Chris








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Re: [MBZ] Current Diesel Prices

[Mitch Haley]

You didn't paste the table into the email.


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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[Redghost]

For antenna upgrading, a Pringles Cantenna is superb.  Might be an  
issue with getting it hooked to her internal antenna though.


Using a router as an access point would also solve the issue.  She  
would want to place it up high as close to the other routers to get  
strong signal


clay

On Dec 23, 2008, at 11:08 AM, M G wrote:


My daughter asked me about the longest range wireless
router in N. She is at camp Victory and a bunch of the
people got together and bought a used satellite dish
from some of the guys who were coming home. They live
in three trailers with foot thick concrete blast walls
between them. They have two access points on two of
the trailers but since she is the only one in the
third trailer in on the deal there is no router there
and her computer doesn't get the signal. So she wants
to buy a router that she can use when she gets back. I
don't understand how a wireless router will get the
signal when her laptop can¢t but I think it is just
the size of the antenna on the laptop vs. the one on
the router. That would mean I guess that she would
connect her laptop to the router with a cable and use
that or can she just connect to it wireless without a
computer connected to the router with a cable? Anyway
I know there was talk about that on the list a while
back but I didn't pay much attention to it so if any
of you have an opinion I would be happy to pass it on
to her.

Thanks,
Manfred




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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[Rich Thomas]

I thought D Snook was the only one on the list who had a cataract.

--R

Bill R wrote:

I had
cataract surgery this morning so I should soon be better at reading the
small print and figuring out what might work, though I am having a bit of a
hard time typing at the moment.
BillR

  


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Laptop Recovery

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I will try that.  When you turn this thing on, at the first screen it 
tells you to hit f2 to go into setup.  With this memory problem, it just 
beeps and does not show the screen.  I did not try hitting f2 anyway though.


MG wrote:
Just thought of something. Try hitting F2 repeatedly after you turn it 
on. That should get you into setup. See if there is an option to set the 
memory size there. Even if not at least save the new setup and then try 
to boot. That may do the trick. I seem to remember that some old laptops 
I had need this step to work right.


Manfred



Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:27:18 -0600
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 


that cruicial tool says I can put 256 in each slot, but it will only
take 1. In the other slot I have a 64 i think, I even tried a 128 and
 it
wouldnt take it.

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Re: [MBZ] Router help

[Bill R]

Hi Manfred - When I was asking about routers awhile back there were any
number of suggestions and links to plans for making homemade antennas that
were supposed to be good.  I plan to try one or more of them soon.  I had
cataract surgery this morning so I should soon be better at reading the
small print and figuring out what might work, though I am having a bit of a
hard time typing at the moment.
BillR

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On Behalf Of M G
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 2:08 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Router help

My daughter asked me about the longest range wireless
router in N. She is at camp Victory and a bunch of the
people got together and bought a used satellite dish
from some of the guys who were coming home. They live
in three trailers with foot thick concrete blast walls
between them. They have two access points on two of
the trailers but since she is the only one in the
third trailer in on the deal there is no router there
and her computer doesn't get the signal. So she wants
to buy a router that she can use when she gets back. I
don't understand how a wireless router will get the
signal when her laptop can¢t but I think it is just
the size of the antenna on the laptop vs. the one on
the router. That would mean I guess that she would
connect her laptop to the router with a cable and use
that or can she just connect to it wireless without a
computer connected to the router with a cable? Anyway
I know there was talk about that on the list a while
back but I didn't pay much attention to it so if any
of you have an opinion I would be happy to pass it on
to her.

Thanks,
Manfred


  

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[MBZ] Rear License plate backing

[Peter Merle]

I'm trying to find out if US and / or European W123 sedans came with a
chromed rear license plate backing plate. Local - South African ones did but
I have a German import and that one appears not to have one - not sure if
that's correct for that car or not. Anyone know ?
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Re: [MBZ] Wind

[andrew strasfogel]

Maybe the really ugly/common birds but not the rare/beautiful ones.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions

[Curt Raymond]

I dunno about the JDs but for IH the "kerosene" wasn't what we think of it was 
"stove oil" which was somewhere between diesel and gasoline. The trick was to 
get the carb hot enough that the kerosene would vaporize adequately. So you 
started on gas and just opened the valve to the kerosene tank when the engine 
was warm.

The diesel IH tractors had all kinds of block off plates and whatnot that came 
into play to change from a gas engine to a diesel. I got to see one belted to a 
shingle mill late last summer, it was really cool.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:07:58 -0500
From: "Archer" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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How did the old John Deere tractors run on kerosene after they were started 
on gasoline?  The weren't dieseling were they?
Gerry
--
Old international tractor motors used to have spark plugs and a carb.
They would start cold on gasoline, and switch to diesel once warmed
up

There's all kinds of cool ways of starting oil engines before modern
diesel technology. Especially if you look at old "semi-diesel" hot
bulb engines used on boats.
Tyler

>>  wrote:
>>> yea, they dang batteries, lets get rid of them and go back
>>> to crank starting
>
>> You want to hand crank a diesel in 0 degree weather?! With
>> hand powered glow plugs?
>
> How about wind power to generate the electricity to glow the plugs?
>
> How about a little diesel-fired turbine? Surly that could be
> used to spin the engine?
>
> Or maybe a fuel cell!
>
> --           Philip





  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions

[MG]

I had an old International I think it was an F14 tricycle tractor. It 
was started and warmed up on gas and then the carb was switched to kero 
or "lamp oil". It worked because the warm engine would be hot enough to 
vaporize the kero and let the sparkplugs ignite the fuel air mixture. No 
increase in compression or injection system was needed. Just make sure 
you drained the kero out of the cold carb and let it fill with gas 
before trying to start it or you would be there till hell froze over or 
your arm fell off from cranking it. Then you took the plugs out and 
cleaned them and did it right. Always started on the first or second 
crank when everything was right. As far as I know all those old bi-fuel 
tractors worked that way.


Manfred



Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:40:43 -0800
From: Tyler 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions


I think most of those engines had some sort of piston in the cylinder
head to raise the compression when switching to diesel/kerosene. So
they're essentially converting from a real gasoline engine to a real
diesel engine by shutting off the gasoline supply and spark while
raising the compression and injecting an oil fuel at the same time.

I love weird old archaic diesel engines... Especially since when you
find one they probably still work! My dad almost bought one of these
tractors. It was weird because if you looked at the engine from one
side it looked exactly like a normal gas motor, and from the other
side it looked exactly like a normal diesel!

Tyler

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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[R A Bennell]

AND . if the SOB don't start, you just shoot it, and be done with it!

Randy

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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery options


pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
> Dad told me that some of the old diesels started with a shot gun round.

My dad's Allis-Chalmers 200 started with loop glow plugs, and had on board 
ether 
plumbing.
His Belarus has a kerosene fueled flame thrower in the intake manifold. Heat 
the 
manifold and run 24v to the starter, and it will start in very cold weather.
The 2007 John Deere has very fast glow plugs.
The early Dodge/Cummins pickups had electric heating grids in the intake 
manifolds, not sure what the newer ones do. (heating the air as it flowed 
through the grid, rather than heating the manifold like the Belarus)


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Re: [MBZ] Wind

[R A Bennell]

Don't you think that evolution will ultimately result in the birds altering 
their migration track to avoid the
windmills?

Randy

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Or maybe just kill all wildlife because they are too costly or just plain
annoying for the human race to preserve?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Yeah, that would raise the cost to about $3/kwh, but I guess they could get
> bird avoidance tax credits or something to make it cheaper.
>
> --R
>
> OK Don wrote:
>
>> I think radar, predictive software, and varying the speed of the
>> blades to let the birds pass through the spinning turbine - ought
>> to be something NASA, or a bright engineer could do ---
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM, andrew strasfogel
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> There ought to be a way to mitigate the avian mortality, such as by
>>> shutting
>>> down during migrations or at times when the bats around and active
>>> (whenever
>>> that is).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[R A Bennell]

Throw a microwave in the back seat and keep your coffee warm too!

Randy

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Curt Raymond wrote:
> My 1000w generator finally arrived yesterday, its small, maybe 16"x14"x12". I 
> bet it could find a  home under the
hood of my 240D. Heat for the head and power for the glowplugs.

With a block heater, you can have heat for battery and power for the block
heater. Running a 400W load might be a good way to break in the genset.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Chuck L and bama

[Chuck Landenberger]

Thanks Loren,

Haven't seen any yellow brick road being built to my son's home.  And  
I think we are on the same wrong side of the canal as you were


Merry Christmas to all and to all good fortune and blessings...

Take care,

Chuck

PS.  I went into Border's yesterday, looking for an O'Reilly book  
for my DIL's father.  And what author do you think I found to the  
LEFT of O'Reilly's books  Obama.  All due to alphabetical  
orientation rather than political


C.
On Dec 23, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:

Just heard a report that bama has crashed Chuck L's family  
Christmas.   Seems as though bama chose to vacation near Chuck's  
son's family.  What a way to ruin a neighborhood!  having all the  
streets and the beach plugged up, and the accompanying media circus  
trashing the area is NOT a nice way to spend Christmas.  My guess  
is that I have been in the house the lord, most high, bama, and all  
the bamites are staying in.  It is my old neighborhood too, only I  
lived on the "wrong" side if the canal.


Anyhow, We should wish Chuck and his family well for this Christmas!




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Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?

[R A Bennell]

My 300D is the tail end of the 115 models being a 1976. The earlier cars did 
have vent windows, and I wish mine did
too. They are useful things when the AC does not work.

The routine for locking the doors seems a bit much. I think I will just stick 
with the key. I have seen aftermarket
kits for remote locking with the key fob type remote. I wouldn't mind trying to 
install something like that
perhaps. Don't want to trash my old MB but sure do like the pushbutton lock 
setup on my truck. One gets used to it
quickly and does not want to use the key. I find myself wanting to unlock my 
house with the remote doodad. There
must be a market for that too.

Randy

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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?


On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:39:41 -0600 "R A Bennell"  wrote:

> 2 issues!
>
> 1. My 115 does not have vent windows.

No "wind wings" at the front of the front door windows? Hmmm.



> 2. I have not figured out how to lock the doors without using the key in
> the lock on the driver's door.

Simple. With key in hand, close driver's door. Open rear passenger door.
Reach around and push button on driver's door down. Push button on
passenger's door down. Shut passenger's door.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I cant find parts

[R A Bennell]

These wouldn't be the European style 115 headlights would they??? If so, we 
should talk.

Randy

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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I cant find parts


I know the feeling.  When I had a real garage, I had a shelf for 
keeping parts on.  I am in the process of sorting through things and 
finding parts I didn't remember I had.  I will be listing them soon 
after the first of the year.  Most are 124 and 126 parts.  Found a 
new 124 star, still in the bag that I don't need.  I am trying 
to  put all the parts I find in one place.

I also have 115 headlights, 108 lights etc.

At 10:22 AM 12/23/2008, you wrote:
>I hate it when I cant find parts I ordered from Rusty I know I have 
>laying around.  For instance, I know I have a new thermostat I 
>bought a while back that I now need, cant find it.  Guess I will 
>have to order another one, the the one I have will turn up.
>--
>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
>  89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
>  84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
>http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions

[Tyler]

I think most of those engines had some sort of piston in the cylinder  
head to raise the compression when switching to diesel/kerosene. So  
they're essentially converting from a real gasoline engine to a real  
diesel engine by shutting off the gasoline supply and spark while  
raising the compression and injecting an oil fuel at the same time.


I love weird old archaic diesel engines... Especially since when you  
find one they probably still work! My dad almost bought one of these  
tractors. It was weird because if you looked at the engine from one  
side it looked exactly like a normal gas motor, and from the other  
side it looked exactly like a normal diesel!


Tyler

On Dec 23, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Archer wrote:

How did the old John Deere tractors run on kerosene after they were  
started on gasoline?  The weren't dieseling were they?

Gerry
--
Old international tractor motors used to have spark plugs and a carb.
They would start cold on gasoline, and switch to diesel once warmed
up

There's all kinds of cool ways of starting oil engines before modern
diesel technology. Especially if you look at old "semi-diesel" hot
bulb engines used on boats.
Tyler


 wrote:

yea, they dang batteries, lets get rid of them and go back
to crank starting



You want to hand crank a diesel in 0 degree weather?! With
hand powered glow plugs?


How about wind power to generate the electricity to glow the plugs?

How about a little diesel-fired turbine? Surly that could be
used to spin the engine?

Or maybe a fuel cell!

--   Philip





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[MBZ] Chuck L and bama

[Loren Faeth]

Just heard a report that bama has crashed Chuck L's family 
Christmas.   Seems as though bama chose to vacation near Chuck's 
son's family.  What a way to ruin a neighborhood!  having all the 
streets and the beach plugged up, and the accompanying media circus 
trashing the area is NOT a nice way to spend Christmas.  My guess is 
that I have been in the house the lord, most high, bama, and all the 
bamites are staying in.  It is my old neighborhood too, only I lived 
on the "wrong" side if the canal.


Anyhow, We should wish Chuck and his family well for this Christmas!




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Re: [MBZ] I cant find parts

[Loren Faeth]

I know the feeling.  When I had a real garage, I had a shelf for 
keeping parts on.  I am in the process of sorting through things and 
finding parts I didn't remember I had.  I will be listing them soon 
after the first of the year.  Most are 124 and 126 parts.  Found a 
new 124 star, still in the bag that I don't need.  I am trying 
to  put all the parts I find in one place.


I also have 115 headlights, 108 lights etc.

At 10:22 AM 12/23/2008, you wrote:
I hate it when I cant find parts I ordered from Rusty I know I have 
laying around.  For instance, I know I have a new thermostat I 
bought a while back that I now need, cant find it.  Guess I will 
have to order another one, the the one I have will turn up.

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions

[Archer]

How did the old John Deere tractors run on kerosene after they were started 
on gasoline?  The weren't dieseling were they?

Gerry
--
Old international tractor motors used to have spark plugs and a carb.
They would start cold on gasoline, and switch to diesel once warmed
up

There's all kinds of cool ways of starting oil engines before modern
diesel technology. Especially if you look at old "semi-diesel" hot
bulb engines used on boats.
Tyler


 wrote:

yea, they dang batteries, lets get rid of them and go back
to crank starting



You want to hand crank a diesel in 0 degree weather?! With
hand powered glow plugs?


How about wind power to generate the electricity to glow the plugs?

How about a little diesel-fired turbine? Surly that could be
used to spin the engine?

Or maybe a fuel cell!

--   Philip





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[MBZ] Router help

[M G]

My daughter asked me about the longest range wireless
router in N. She is at camp Victory and a bunch of the
people got together and bought a used satellite dish
from some of the guys who were coming home. They live
in three trailers with foot thick concrete blast walls
between them. They have two access points on two of
the trailers but since she is the only one in the
third trailer in on the deal there is no router there
and her computer doesn't get the signal. So she wants
to buy a router that she can use when she gets back. I
don't understand how a wireless router will get the
signal when her laptop can¢t but I think it is just
the size of the antenna on the laptop vs. the one on
the router. That would mean I guess that she would
connect her laptop to the router with a cable and use
that or can she just connect to it wireless without a
computer connected to the router with a cable? Anyway
I know there was talk about that on the list a while
back but I didn't pay much attention to it so if any
of you have an opinion I would be happy to pass it on
to her.

Thanks,
Manfred


  

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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[MG]

My Godfather had a small two wheel one cylinder diesel walk behind 
sicklebar mower. You unscrewed a plug on the cylinderhead and inserted a 
rolled paper thing about the diameter of a straw and 1" long. !/4" at 
the end had some black stuff on it like a match. Then screw the plug 
back in and pull the rope starter. POP!  Sometimes had to do that twice 
before it fired and ran.


Manfred


Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:49:56 +
From: pm7...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery options


Dad told me that some of the old diesels started with a shot gun round.

Here come the gun guys..

Pete

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Laptop Recovery

[MG]

Just thought of something. Try hitting F2 repeatedly after you turn it 
on. That should get you into setup. See if there is an option to set the 
memory size there. Even if not at least save the new setup and then try 
to boot. That may do the trick. I seem to remember that some old laptops 
I had need this step to work right.


Manfred



Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:27:18 -0600
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 


that cruicial tool says I can put 256 in each slot, but it will only
take 1. In the other slot I have a 64 i think, I even tried a 128 and
 it
wouldnt take it.

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Laptop Recovery

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:27:18 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> that cruicial tool says I can put 256 in each slot, but it will only 
> take 1. In the other slot I have a 64 i think, I even tried a 128 and it
> wouldnt take it.

Then it sounds like it's working as advertised ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:17:35 -0500 Kris Gilmore
 wrote:

>   And thinking of her now I guess brings to mind what would be 
> her reaction to your post - "Why does this man leave his dog in a car 
> with the windows up so high he can't reach in?"  I would have thought 
> the list's dog lovers would be on to you by now.

When it's 20 degrees out, one does not need to leave the windows down for
the car to stay at a comfortable temperature, even in the sun. In fact,
having the windows down enough to reach in would probably drop the
temperature to an uncomfortable range and would let blowing snow in.

So, no dog lovers to pounce on him.


Craig

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[MBZ] COBRA (was Re: Laid off? [was: Re: OT: 1Gb fibre channel])

[Allan Streib]

"LWB250"  said:

> If it was anything like the COBRA from my wife's former employer, it's
> going to be BIG bucks.,  Her COBRA (which covered the family) was about
> $1900/month.  My oldest son used his part of it (you can activate
> individuals or the whole family) and he was paying $485/month.  Ouch.

COBRA is generally billed at what the employer is charged for your
policy, i.e. if your policy costs $1000 a month, but they are kicking in
$800 and you are paying $200 as an employee, then under COBRA you pay
the full $1000.  Also you can only stay on it for a limited time, 6 or
12 months not sure.

I'd check out an individual plan from Anthem.  I had family coverage for
under $500 a month.  One big caveat, at that price there's no maternity
coverage, so you better be sure you are careful!!

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:39:41 -0600 "R A Bennell"  wrote:

> 2 issues!
> 
> 1. My 115 does not have vent windows.

No "wind wings" at the front of the front door windows? Hmmm.



> 2. I have not figured out how to lock the doors without using the key in
> the lock on the driver's door.

Simple. With key in hand, close driver's door. Open rear passenger door.
Reach around and push button on driver's door down. Push button on
passenger's door down. Shut passenger's door.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions

[Tyler]

Old international tractor motors used to have spark plugs and a carb.  
They would start cold on gasoline, and switch to diesel once warmed  
up


There's all kinds of cool ways of starting oil engines before modern  
diesel technology. Especially if you look at old "semi-diesel" hot  
bulb engines used on boats.


Tyler

On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Fmiser wrote:


It seems than at Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:59:47 -0700, Craig wrote:


On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:11:22 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:


yea, they dang batteries, lets get rid of them and go back
to crank starting


You want to hand crank a diesel in 0 degree weather?! With
hand powered glow plugs?


How about wind power to generate the electricity to glow the plugs?

How about a little diesel-fired turbine? Surly that could be
used to spin the engine?

Or maybe a fuel cell!

--   Philip



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Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?

[R A Bennell]

2 issues!

1. My 115 does not have vent windows.

2. I have not figured out how to lock the doors without using the key in the 
lock on the driver's door.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?


On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:47:03 -0600 "OK Don"  wrote:

> I managed to lock my keys in a 115 once - after getting the cameras
> out of the back seat to shoot a wedding.  It took me at least 45
> minutes with a coat hanger to get the door open, with some sacrifice
> of the weatherstrip around the door.

You could always take the easy approach on a 115: just push hard enough on
the wind wing at the front of one of the front windows until you shear the
small pin holding the window to the rotation mechanism. It's fast, but has
more repair effort later. (Then again, knowing how difficult it is to get
weather stripping right, maybe not.)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:

Its supposedly rated 4.5 hours per gallon of gas...


...and I think it holds about gallon.
The one I used has a petcock that goes up into the tank 3/8 or 1/2 inch, and the 
genny dies with a pint or more of fuel still in it.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Wind

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Or maybe just kill all wildlife because they are too costly or just plain
annoying for the human race to preserve?


Homepower did an article about ten years ago claiming that bird kills were not a 
significant factor, but I don't remember the details. I suspect you would need a 
LOT of wind turbines to make a county's propeller kills equal the road kill.
Heck, my living room and dining room windows kill at least one bird a year, and 
stun many more than they kill.


The question is how many birds die in that region without the wind machines, how 
many are killed by the wind machines, and do the additional deaths have any 
effect on the population?


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
the lowest I have is 2 amps.  Its got a timer but you can set it to 
hold.  I should probably just use 2amp and leave it on hold all night.


Then turn the charger off and put a voltmeter on it. If it's under 12v after 10 
hours at 2A, it's DEAD.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Laid off? [was: Re: OT: 1Gb fibre channel]

[LWB250]

If it was anything like the COBRA from my wife's former employer, it's going to 
be BIG bucks.,  Her COBRA (which covered the family) was about $1900/month.  My 
oldest son used his part of it (you can activate individuals or the whole 
family) and he was paying $485/month.  Ouch.

Dan


--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> From: Mitch Haley 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Laid off? [was: Re:  OT: 1Gb fibre channel]
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 10:36 AM
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > yea, do tell, Im fixing to be laid off myself.  I
> will have severance pay for a while, and am debating on if I
> want to find a job, or just draw unemployment for a while
> and screw around with cars.  Probably better try and
> find a job with ins asap, sure as I dont I will have a
> massive heart attack or something.
> 
> How long will Cocks pay your insurance?
> How much would you have to pay for COBRA coverage on the
> five of you?
> (probably you don't want to know the price on that)
> 
> Mitch.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Laid off? [was: Re: OT: 1Gb fibre channel]

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I will continue my ins as long as Im still getting severance pay.  A 
lady who just got laid off is getting 26 weeks pay, but she has been 
there 30 years.  Last year when they were going to lay me off I was 
going to get 8 weeks I think.  I should get at least that much.  So that 
will take me into march of still getting paid with insurance.

Cobra, dont know but I can guess its going to be at least 1k per month.

Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yea, do tell, Im fixing to be laid off myself.  I will have severance 
pay for a while, and am debating on if I want to find a job, or just 
draw unemployment for a while and screw around with cars.  Probably 
better try and find a job with ins asap, sure as I dont I will have a 
massive heart attack or something.


How long will Cocks pay your insurance?
How much would you have to pay for COBRA coverage on the five of you?
(probably you don't want to know the price on that)

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?

[LWB250]

I just carry a spare key in my wallet.  Same goes for house key.  That way I 
never have to carry a ring of keys around.

The MB keys are nice to put in a wallet if you do the "headless" thing with 
them, that is, break or cut off the plastic "head" so all you have is the metal 
part.  A little tough to turn, but it works all the same and cuts down on the 
bulk.

Dan

--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Kris Gilmore  wrote:

> From: Kris Gilmore 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 11:17 AM
> At 09:26 AM 12/22/2008, Harry wrote:
> > The dog pushed the door lock with the keys laying on
> the seat.  The deputy came with a tool and unlocked it
> with not much effort.  This was a 97 Lexus.
> > 
> > What about these tools?  Do different ones fit
> different cars?  Where can they be had?  I can't
> recall seeing them in HF.
> 
>      I keep thinking about this. 
> Say you had one of these tools and learned how to use
> it.  Where would you keep it?  It doesn't look
> like it would fit in your pocket and having it at home
> wouldn't help.  Hidden on the underside of the vehicle
> would be good but then hiding a spare key there sounds
> easier.
> 
>      I tape a spare key under the front
> of all my vehicles.  I put it in a place that requires
> a person to get down on their hands and knees and look for a
> dirty wrap of black plastic tape of the appropriate
> size.  Then cut it off and clean the key of grease and
> crud.  A troublesome and time consuming procedure, not
> the kind of thing a thief likes to do.  Also not the
> kind of thing that a wife likes to do; mine has been cured
> of accidentally locking herself out while shopping.
> 
>      And thinking of her now I guess
> brings to mind what would be her reaction to your post -
> "Why does this man leave his dog in a car with the windows
> up so high he can't reach in?"  I would have thought
> the list's dog lovers would be on to you by now.
> 
>      Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
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>        that I have ever known. 
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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

never saw the original, but saw the remake and they did that, just like 
I just posted.


Rich Thomas wrote:
Remember the original movie "Flight of the Phoenix" where they were 
trying to start the airplane's engine(s?) using those things? The 
tension and drama as one after the other they used up their shells, and 
only one remained to start the engine.


--R



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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

speaking of which, anybody seen that remake of flight of the phoenix? 
That plane uses what appear to be shotgun rounds to start the engine. 
Never seen or heard of that before.


pm7...@comcast.net wrote:

Dad told me that some of the old diesels started with a shot gun round.

Here come the gun guys..

Pete


 -- Original message --
From: Fmiser 

Jim wrote:
How about a recoil-started pony motor?  Could put the rope
pull right in the dash!  Point the exhaust at the head...

I'm liking it! No battery, builtin preheat. Make it water
cooled, have it share the coolant with the big engine, put an
alternator on it so the heater blower or the ham radios could
run

I understand that old Caterpillars had electric start pony
motors that then started the big engine.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Laptop Recovery

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

that cruicial tool says I can put 256 in each slot, but it will only 
take 1. In the other slot I have a 64 i think, I even tried a 128 and it 
wouldnt take it.


Redghost wrote:
Some of the laptops will have a ram limit.  They will take a big stick 
in one or the other slot, but not both.  Ran into that with an older 
powerbook.  If the sticks were good, it would allow both to be used, but 
only see upto its limit


clay

On Dec 22, 2008, at 7:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

maybe I have the wrong kind of pc133 then, just bought a bunch on ebay 
to try.  it was cheap.  Crucial does have some listed, but if I cant 
find some that will bump it up mmore, I will just forget about it. 
Funny thing is, I have 2 sticks of identical 256k pc133 ram, with both 
in there, it beeps and will not boot.  Will boot with one or the other 
in, but not both at the same time.  For some reason, its not liking 
the full 512


Curt Raymond wrote:
Not all PC133 memory is the same, theres a timing standard of some 
sort, I can't remember what its called exactly, EC2 or something like 
that. Its been so long since I've had to deal with it I've forgotten.
Does Crucial have the memory for your computer? Probably easier and 
cheaper to buy from them. I paid just over $60 for 2GB for my Linux 
machine which has cured a bunch of issues with it being kinda pokey.

-Curt
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:13:18 -0600
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. Laptop Recovery
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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I used that cruicial tool to find out how much I can go with one of 
my other computers the kids use.  It says 256k in each slot, 2 slots, 
max.   Said pc133. I have a whole bunch now and I can only get a 
certain 256 stick to work in one slot and a 64 I think in the other.  
I cant go the full 512.  And it wont use most of the memory I have 
even though its 133 etc, just beeps when powered on and will not 
boot.  What the heck?

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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Curt Raymond]

Its supposedly rated 4.5 hours per gallon of gas...

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:01:37 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery options
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Curt Raymond wrote:
>
My 1000w generator finally arrived yesterday, its small, maybe
16"x14"x12". I bet it could find a  home under the hood of my 240D.
Heat for the head and power for the glowplugs.

With a block heater, you can have heat for battery and power for the block 
heater. Running a 400W load might be a good way to break in the genset.

Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Got the MB WIS installed, trying to look up info on the 140

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

workshop information system, its what dealers use to work on your car at 
the dealer.


Christopher McCann wrote:

What is WIS? I am familiar with the EPC and the service manuals on CD, but not 
WIS. Tried to get some info via google and saw something called the DAS 
mentioned too...don't know what that is either. Most of what I found was about 
how hard the program is to install and use. I'm curious what these programs are.

Chris


'85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'82 VW Vanagon Diesel 229K mi/'75 
240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 
(parting out)


--- On Mon, 12/15/08, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:


From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Got the MB WIS installed, trying to look up info on the 140
To: "mercedes Mailing List" , davesl...@okiebenz.com
Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 3:21 PM
Installed the WIS, trying to use it to get info about taking
off the timing cover, slide rails etc for this 140.  This
seems like a very complicated program, Im having a hard time
figuring it out.  Anybody have this installed and messed
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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Curt Raymond]

Yup, its got a 12v port...

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:46:48 -0800
From: Jim Cathey 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery options
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> My 1000w generator finally arrived yesterday, its small, maybe 
> 16"x14"x12". I bet it could find a? home under the hood of my 240D. 
> Heat for the head and power for the glowplugs.

And, unless I misremember, +12V for topping off (and slightly
warming) your battery.  A portable version of the Frankenheap's
preheater system!  (Point the exhaust at the engine block.)

-- Jim


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery opinions

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

sure, Im superman

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:11:22 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:


yea, they dang batteries, lets get rid of them and go back to crank
starting


You want to hand crank a diesel in 0 degree weather?! With hand powered
glow plugs?


Craig

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[MBZ] I cant find parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I hate it when I cant find parts I ordered from Rusty I know I have 
laying around.  For instance, I know I have a new thermostat I bought a 
while back that I now need, cant find it.  Guess I will have to order 
another one, the the one I have will turn up.

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Re: [MBZ] Keys locked in car, what tools are available?

[Kris Gilmore]

At 09:26 AM 12/22/2008, Harry wrote:
The dog pushed the door lock with the keys laying on the seat.  The 
deputy came with a tool and unlocked it with not much effort.  This 
was a 97 Lexus.


What about these tools?  Do different ones fit different 
cars?  Where can they be had?  I can't recall seeing them in HF.


 I keep thinking about this.  Say you had one of these tools and 
learned how to use it.  Where would you keep it?  It doesn't look 
like it would fit in your pocket and having it at home wouldn't 
help.  Hidden on the underside of the vehicle would be good but then 
hiding a spare key there sounds easier.


 I tape a spare key under the front of all my vehicles.  I put 
it in a place that requires a person to get down on their hands and 
knees and look for a dirty wrap of black plastic tape of the 
appropriate size.  Then cut it off and clean the key of grease and 
crud.  A troublesome and time consuming procedure, not the kind of 
thing a thief likes to do.  Also not the kind of thing that a wife 
likes to do; mine has been cured of accidentally locking herself out 
while shopping.


 And thinking of her now I guess brings to mind what would be 
her reaction to your post - "Why does this man leave his dog in a car 
with the windows up so high he can't reach in?"  I would have thought 
the list's dog lovers would be on to you by now.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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 This my only home.
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[MBZ] J.B. Hebert are you on the diesel list

[Robert Massmann]

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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Frederick W Moir]

Philip, and others.
Yup! Old Cats (in marine service) had an electric motor to 
start the two cylinder gas motor to start the main diesel, the pony 
motor also had a crank handle.
Loads of fun on old re-cycled bayou boats in frigid New England! 
Maintenence? Wutz thayut? Pourquoi? Je n'sai... and me having 
no Vietnamese. Oh! Joy unbounded!

Fred Moir
Lynn MA

At 02:08 AM 12/23/2008, you wrote:

> Jim wrote:
> How about a recoil-started pony motor?  Could put the rope
> pull right in the dash!  Point the exhaust at the head...

I understand that old Caterpillars had electric start pony
motors that then started the big engine.
Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cerberus willing to give up Chrysler equity stake

[Allan Streib]

Mitch Haley  writes:

> SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) - Cerberus Capital Management, L.P. said
> on Friday that it's willing to give up its equity stake in Chrysler
> LLC in return for concessions from labor unions and creditors of the
> struggling automaker.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6wlpxc


   "Chrysler won't be able to do that without concessions by major
stakeholders in the company, Cerberus said. The firm highlighted the
company's debt load and what it said was Chrysler's lack of
competitiveness with auto plants that Honda and Toyota operate in
the U.S."

Hm, I wonder why they didn't realize this BEFORE they bought their
stake.  It's not like those disparities just arose since then.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Laid off? [was: Re: OT: 1Gb fibre channel]

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yea, do tell, Im fixing to be laid off myself.  I will have severance 
pay for a while, and am debating on if I want to find a job, or just 
draw unemployment for a while and screw around with cars.  Probably 
better try and find a job with ins asap, sure as I dont I will have a 
massive heart attack or something.


How long will Cocks pay your insurance?
How much would you have to pay for COBRA coverage on the five of you?
(probably you don't want to know the price on that)

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus tranny problems

[Allan Streib]

Curt Raymond  writes:

> I wouldn't even ask for a diagnosis as thats just going to be "its
> trashed". Get the fluid and filter changed and see what
> happens... Sounds like the sticky valves from my pickup last year.

Yeah googled it a bit and seems it's not an unheard-of problem.
Changing fluid/filter generally seems to help.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Wind

[Rich Thomas]

H, have you run that idea past DOE and EPA?  I think there are some 
slots opening up in those agencies.


Note the statement did not show any preferences regarding wildlife (I 
like wildlife and try to live it whenever I can!); rather, that there 
are costs associated with any scheme, and the way those costs related to 
wind have been dealt with in the past are to give the operators tax 
credits.  That's the way it was in the 80s, and the way it is today.  
Only way the power from wind machines is anywhere near being priced 
competitively with other alternatives.  Wind is a variable supply source 
that is not controllable, and is somewhat intermittent (depends on 
location) so shutting down for other reasons just lowers productivity 
and raises overall costs.  Just physics and economics, nothing to do 
with loving wildlife.


Was it last Christmas or New Year that the wind in West Texas and NM 
died (in the middle of the windiest time of the year there?) and left 
the power providers scrambling to meet demand?  There are huge wind 
farms out that way, up on ridges and mesas.


--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Or maybe just kill all wildlife because they are too costly or just plain
annoying for the human race to preserve?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

  

Yeah, that would raise the cost to about $3/kwh, but I guess they could get
bird avoidance tax credits or something to make it cheaper.

--R

OK Don wrote:



I think radar, predictive software, and varying the speed of the
blades to let the birds pass through the spinning turbine - ought
to be something NASA, or a bright engineer could do ---

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM, andrew strasfogel
 wrote:


  

There ought to be a way to mitigate the avian mortality, such as by
shutting
down during migrations or at times when the bats around and active
(whenever
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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:

My 1000w generator finally arrived yesterday, its small, maybe 16"x14"x12". I 
bet it could find a  home under the hood of my 240D. Heat for the head and power for the 
glowplugs.


With a block heater, you can have heat for battery and power for the block 
heater. Running a 400W load might be a good way to break in the genset.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Wind

[andrew strasfogel]

Or maybe just kill all wildlife because they are too costly or just plain
annoying for the human race to preserve?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Yeah, that would raise the cost to about $3/kwh, but I guess they could get
> bird avoidance tax credits or something to make it cheaper.
>
> --R
>
> OK Don wrote:
>
>> I think radar, predictive software, and varying the speed of the
>> blades to let the birds pass through the spinning turbine - ought
>> to be something NASA, or a bright engineer could do ---
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM, andrew strasfogel
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> There ought to be a way to mitigate the avian mortality, such as by
>>> shutting
>>> down during migrations or at times when the bats around and active
>>> (whenever
>>> that is).
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:08:35 -0600 Fmiser  wrote:

> I understand that old Caterpillars had electric start pony
> motors that then started the big engine.

So did some of the old John Deeres.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Jim Cathey]

My 1000w generator finally arrived yesterday, its small, maybe 
16"x14"x12". I bet it could find a  home under the hood of my 240D. 
Heat for the head and power for the glowplugs.


And, unless I misremember, +12V for topping off (and slightly
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preheater system!  (Point the exhaust at the engine block.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Jim Cathey]

The early Dodge/Cummins pickups had electric heating grids in the 
intake manifolds, not sure what the newer ones do. (heating the air as 
it flowed through the grid, rather than heating the manifold like the 
Belarus)


I believe that is still the case.  Two heating elements, 60-100A each,
very robust.  They rarely go bad, unlike Ford's glow plugs.  The
engine computer continues to cycle them in a pattern after start
while it warms up.  It seems to work pretty well.  My truck lost
one of the relays (actually, the drive from the computer seems
to have shorted 'on' so I disconnected it) so I'm only on half
power, but it's still starting down below zero.  I give it a couple
of key cycles instead, sound familiar?

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Battery options

[Curt Raymond]

My 1000w generator finally arrived yesterday, its small, maybe 16"x14"x12". I 
bet it could find a  home under the hood of my 240D. Heat for the head and 
power for the glowplugs.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:08:35 -0600
From: Fmiser 
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> Jim wrote:

> How about a recoil-started pony motor?  Could put the rope
> pull right in the dash!  Point the exhaust at the head...

I'm liking it! No battery, builtin preheat. Make it water
cooled, have it share the coolant with the big engine, put an
alternator on it so the heater blower or the ham radios could
run

I understand that old Caterpillars had electric start pony
motors that then started the big engine.

--        Philip


  
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