Re: [MBZ] Fw: The New General Motors Company
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I think I got this because I have a GM credit card (which I don't use anymore). Interesting and pretty much entirely uninformative. -Curt --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Your GM Team your_gm_t...@emails.generalmotors.com wrote: From: Your GM Team your_gm_t...@emails.generalmotors.com Oops, someone forgot to re-register that domain name. Should be GeneralMotors.gov now. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Laugh until you cry
maybe he means $400 and he'll really take 250? On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1239884625.html Low retail is $4075 but this guy is crazy! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090714/aedf2279/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/bdcc6ced/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: speeding
Got my first speeding ticket tonight, 35 in a 20. I thought I was on an unposted stretch of road, which in town would default to a 30 limit. I cant prove I was not going 35 but seems a stretch given the road. It's a very twisty road through a wooded area with a park. Based on the presence of the park the limit is 20. I did not recall seeing any signage to this effect so I drove back over my route and found ONE 20 mph sign but it was partially obscured by spray paint vandalism. Thinking of contesting the ticket. I'm going back in the morning to take photos of the sign and document the lack of any PARK ZONE or additional speed limit signs. Anyone have a feeling whether a judge would dismiss this at a bench trial? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - my kinda guy
Hi Wilton, Be interesting to know where he was going. . During the Viet Nam war several people called the campus police and reported a big wheel stretcher going down the road between the VA hospital and the Medical School. By the time the campus police got there the stretcher was gone so the police thought it had went back inside. A couple of hours later the campus police got another call reporting the stretcher going down the middle of the road with traffic backed up behind it. The guy on the stretcher was a vet who had been shot up so badly in the spine, he had to lie on his stomach most of the time. His thirst overcame him one night so he rolled himself down to a bar where he got snockered and was weaving his way back to the VA when the cops got him. The nursing staff said his escapade raised the morale of the injured vets all over the hospital. That was at the Haley VA Hospital in Tampa and the guy who told me about it was a quadraplegic Marine who was there at the time. Gerry -- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Today at about 1 PM, I was cruising along at about 70 mph an interstate highway a few miles north of here (Goldsboro, NC) and saw the best example of persistence, perseverance and determination I've seen in a long time - I passed a guy in a wheelchair also cruising along near the outer edge of the paved shoulder. It was one of those chairs built for speed with the wheels splayed out at the bottom; he was cranking it with both hands via bicycle-type cranks at about shoulder height in front of him and cruising along reasonably well. He was about five miles from the entry ramp behind us and about another 6 or 8 miles to the next one. Somebody needs to hire that guy; If I needed/wanted and employee, I'd certainly want to recruit him to my cause. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] He's down to $3000
Now convince him that it has a bad head so you can get it for 2000. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:53 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] He's down to $3000 The ad used to read the typical Mercedes 6 cyl. Before he met me he didn't know the engine was uncommon... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
Don't deal with the Judge, he will consider you a PIA. Go talk to the prosecutor, with luck he will reduce of nolly the charge. He's happy they got your attention. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:15:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [MBZ] OT: speeding Got my first speeding ticket tonight, 35 in a 20. I thought I was on an unposted stretch of road, which in town would default to a 30 limit. I cant prove I was not going 35 but seems a stretch given the road. It's a very twisty road through a wooded area with a park. Based on the presence of the park the limit is 20. I did not recall seeing any signage to this effect so I drove back over my route and found ONE 20 mph sign but it was partially obscured by spray paint vandalism. Thinking of contesting the ticket. I'm going back in the morning to take photos of the sign and document the lack of any PARK ZONE or additional speed limit signs. Anyone have a feeling whether a judge would dismiss this at a bench trial? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/4aeffc1e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: MacBook
Wonko the Sane wrote: Do I hear a 'dual-boot Linux' from the crowd? What the heck, triple-boot it. If you install all the operating systems you want on separate partitions, it's easy as pie to then set up a Linux boot manager to control them all. That's how I got Vista and XP to multi-boot when I didn't have a Vista install disk. Mitch (who is hopefully a T-6 Torx screwdriver away from turning his idiot Seagate SATA drive back on). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
Thinking of contesting the ticket. I'm going back in the morning to take photos of the sign and document the lack of any PARK ZONE or additional speed limit signs. Anyone have a feeling whether a judge would dismiss this at a bench trial? One of the most instructive things I did, when dealing with a speeding ticket myself, was to observe traffic court for a few sessions beforehand. (I had Fridays off at that point in time.) It might work, it might not. Generally just showing up at I'm sorry court and not being an idiot (either when speeding or in court) could net you a halved fine. (I didn't do it court is pretty much all or nothing. You want I'm sorry court, btw. You're not contesting your speed or location, but the circumstances. I went to the wrong one [checked wrong box on ticket] but the judge was understanding when I explained why I thought I was in the right place, though she set me straight.) Once in awhile the ticket is dismissed. Mine was. (I had documentary evidence of my brand-new and unexpectedly overly large snow tires. I remember thinking at the time, What, are these guys bored or something?) There are certain key phrases to use and to avoid, I'm sure that's part of the (local) process. There's also what appeared to me to be an unsettling odor of randomness. I recall one rather attractive girl's totally lame story, her ticket's dismissal surprised even her. Attitude is also important. Being next up after a raving asshole is also not too good for your cause. The judges have seen it all, day-in day-out. They have pretty good BS detectors, but the nature of that job tends to make them cranky. Watch. Really. You'll see not what works, but rather a whole lot of what doesn't. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Don't deal with the Judge, he will consider you a PIA. Go talk to the prosecutor Around here (Michigan) we have to demand a formal hearing to get a prostitutor and judge, otherwise it's just you, the cop, and a part time lawyer/magistrate. My experience with demanding a formal hearing: 1. Calhoun County, demanded formal hearing on the advice of my counsel, got scheduled for an informal hearing, complained, got rescheduled for pre-trial conference with a persecuting attorney. At the conference, he offered me dismissal w/o prejudice, to be reinstated if any further violations in the next six months, and I pay $25 costs. That seemed to be the SOP, if you are accused of a traffic offense, have a clean record, and nobody was hurt, they just get you out of there without costing the county any more money. The other speeder there got the same deal for going a bit faster than me. 2. Eaton County, demanded formal hearing, scheduled for informal hearing, complained and got scheduled for formal hearing. No pretrial, but five minutes before the hearing, the prostituting attorney offered me the chance to plea guilty and pay. At trial, cop lied through his teeth, I dragged it out for a couple of hours trying to get some truth out of him, and it probably cost the county $1000-2000 to get an $80 speeding fine out of me for being the slowest car on the road. (that'll teach them to handle it a pre-trial, eh?) 3. Eaton County, several years later. Demanded formal hearing, actually got scheduled for one, with pre-trial conference beforehand. Good thing for the clerk, I was ready to sue her the next time somebody tried to deny my right to a formal hearing by purposefully ignoring my request. PA said Your record doesn't merit this charge Oh, so you'll be dismissing it? No, but if you settle here, I'll reduce it greatly. So, BS criminal charges dismissed, paid a stiff fine for traffic offense not chargeable against my insurance rating. I still liked the first result best, but #3 was better than #2. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
I want to encourage you to resist. The only discouragement they get is when you make them spend more to prosecute than the ticket is worth. that said, in the first proceeding your chances of success I would put at 5% or less. As one judge told me once, If you weren't guilty, they would not have given you a ticket. Most likely, the case will be dismissed on appeal to a real court. That pretty much necessitates paying a shyster to represent you. At 01:15 AM 7/15/2009, you wrote: Got my first speeding ticket tonight, 35 in a 20. I thought I was on an unposted stretch of road, which in town would default to a 30 limit. I cant prove I was not going 35 but seems a stretch given the road. It's a very twisty road through a wooded area with a park. Based on the presence of the park the limit is 20. I did not recall seeing any signage to this effect so I drove back over my route and found ONE 20 mph sign but it was partially obscured by spray paint vandalism. Thinking of contesting the ticket. I'm going back in the morning to take photos of the sign and document the lack of any PARK ZONE or additional speed limit signs. Anyone have a feeling whether a judge would dismiss this at a bench trial? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
I'd gather evidence and talk to prosecutor about dismissal. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:15 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: speeding Got my first speeding ticket tonight, 35 in a 20. I thought I was on an unposted stretch of road, which in town would default to a 30 limit. I cant prove I was not going 35 but seems a stretch given the road. It's a very twisty road through a wooded area with a park. Based on the presence of the park the limit is 20. I did not recall seeing any signage to this effect so I drove back over my route and found ONE 20 mph sign but it was partially obscured by spray paint vandalism. Thinking of contesting the ticket. I'm going back in the morning to take photos of the sign and document the lack of any PARK ZONE or additional speed limit signs. Anyone have a feeling whether a judge would dismiss this at a bench trial? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1270695017.html Donald H. Snook 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis 78K, 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/c2f81efd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
Loren Faeth wrote: I want to encourage you to resist. The only discouragement they get is when you make them spend more to prosecute than the ticket is worth. I forgot to mention in my earlier reply: If you have photographic evidence, don't let anybody see it until after you've cross-examined the lying sack of cop. Otherwise, the scene of the offense will magically change to someplace different than where your photographs were taken (and also different from the location written on the ticket) When it happened to me, I had an envelope from a photo processing lab on the table in front of me. The judge didn't care that the place I claimed it happened and the place written on the ticket was different from the place the cop testified to in court. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars
Donald Snook wrote: http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1270695017.html For $35k, I'd rather have a 2008 E320CDI. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars
Yo das phat. I saw one close to that yesterday, looked like an old CV cab, was cab yellow with a wide black stripe down the middle ridin on what looked to be twennyfos or maybe twennysixes. It actually looked kinda cool except for the color, which would have been better some kind of metal flake. I think the problem with those things is that they can't turn very much, I would think that might disqualify them from a proper license, but I guess it is no less dangerous than a goober truck with a 12 or more lift. --R Donald Snook wrote: http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1270695017.html Donald H. Snook 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis 78K, 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/c2f81efd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars
I'd rather have 35k in the bank...I'd rather drive a Pukgo than a POS like thatI would not pay 35 cents for it. At 10:16 AM 7/15/2009, you wrote: Donald Snook wrote: http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1270695017.html For $35k, I'd rather have a 2008 E320CDI. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg
Yes and No. Still not too bad here. Can't think of anywhere else to go that promises to be better at the moment. Of course it is summer and if you ask me come January, I might feel different. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg Canyada an Yourope, we are told, are Youtopias! Are you saying big gummit and big media (pretty much the same thing) are lying to us? Have you heard the latest? Bama lied, the economy died. At 04:59 PM 7/14/2009, you wrote: You are wrong. Canada has stringent gun control laws. They work. Oops, now it is about guns, my bad. --R R A Bennell wrote: Yeah, we are as bad as the big US cities when it comes to crime. And, of course, we don't get to have guns unless we are hoodlums and have them illegally. Getting worse here daily. Gangs of young hoodlums roam the streets shooting and knifing people for fun. Winnipeg used to be a pretty safe place but it is getting to be a situation where one does not go to certain parts of town anymore. Our justice system does not do much to deter them either. Just take along your get out of jail free card and do what you want. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cadillac Diesel on CL
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1271080542.html Great ad, very informative. At least the car has front wheel frive Donald H. Snook 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For Sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/3b101dcf/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg
Gun registry in Canada was a silly waste of money. We have essentially had a ban on handguns forever. The registry was for long guns - 22's, shotguns etc. The creeps on the street are carrying illegal hand guns. The huge money spent on the registry was just another government boondoggle. An attempt to show that the government of the day was doing something about crime. The police support it of course and the soccor mommies and the folks in places like Toronto who don't see why anyone needs to own a gun. Ask the farmer in Manitoba or Saskatchewan who goes out into the fields to check on his cattle why he takes a gun with him. Truly amazing how times have changed in my lifetime. When I was a younger fellow living out in the rural area folks kept long guns in those bracket doodads in the back windows of pick up trucks - visible to all. Go to the post office to pick up the mail and leave the truck idling in the lot with the guns in the brackets - no one thought anything of it. Either that or stuffed under the seat. That was in the 60's and early 70's. God, if you did that now, a SWAT team would shoot you first and then tell the media they were forced to do so because you were seen in public with a gun and they had to take you down before you hurt someone. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:56 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg What I saw on that website reads more like a warzone city like Detroit or east LA... Not just any big American city, thats scary. I'd be interested to see Canadian crime stats since the gun ban really went into force. I've my doubts that banning guns really does anything to reduce crime but I'd like to see some real no spin statistics even if they didn't support my opinion. The problem is I don't think such statistics really exist. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:37:00 -0500 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpmenkngaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Yeah, we are as bad as the big US cities when it comes to crime. And, of course, we don't get to have guns unless we are hoodlums and have them illegally. Getting worse here daily. Gangs of young hoodlums roam the streets shooting and knifing people for fun. Winnipeg used to be a pretty safe place but it is getting to be a situation where one does not go to certain parts of town anymore. Our justice system does not do much to deter them either. Just take along your get out of jail free card and do what you want. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:48 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg Geez Randy reading through the front page of the link you provided makes Winnipeg seem like a war zone! Theres sexual assult, screens to protect bus drivers, carjacking, murder, kidnapping, it all sounds very scary. Makes you want to move someplace safe like east LA... ;) -Curt Note: Sarcasm... I'm sure its all media fear mongering but it does make you think, if Canada is supposed to be such a safe place unlike the land of gun toting wackos (of which I'm one) to the south. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090714/6a056f35/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars
I'll take it if the Crack Smoker GIVES ME the Car and 35 Grand. Donald Snook wrote: http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1270695017.html Donald H. Snook 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis 78K, 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/c2f81efd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars
'Nother example of more money than brain. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1270695017.html Donald H. Snook 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis 78K, 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/c2f81efd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cadillac Diesel on CL
Really amazing what can become classic. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cadillac Diesel on CL http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1271080542.html Great ad, very informative. At least the car has front wheel frive Donald H. Snook 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For Sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/3b101dcf/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars
That's the only way you could get anything worthwhile out of the deal. Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars I'll take it if the Crack Smoker GIVES ME the Car and 35 Grand. Donald Snook wrote: http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1270695017.html Donald H. Snook 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis 78K, 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/c2f81efd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Need a lift?
Looks like a shop closing, 6 lifts for sale http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1270128082.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars
This wrong on so many levels, but appeals to me in some weird way http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1271311934.html --R WILTON wrote: That's the only way you could get anything worthwhile out of the deal. Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Stupid looking cars I'll take it if the Crack Smoker GIVES ME the Car and 35 Grand. Donald Snook wrote: http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1270695017.html Donald H. Snook 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis 78K, 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/c2f81efd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Snooks new Cad
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[MBZ] Today's crack: Park in the bushes and stand 150 ft away
This is a 1983 with a great break system http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1269554918.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a lift?
Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a shop closing, 6 lifts for sale http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1270128082.html Rotary is generally good stuff. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's crack: Park in the bushes and stand 150 ft away
So what else is broken, and what else does it break? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] Today's crack: Park in the bushes and stand 150 ft away This is a 1983 with a great break system http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1269554918.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg
I've visited Winnipeg numerous times and never felt the need to pack anything larger than a pen knife to trim my nails... On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:31 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Gun registry in Canada was a silly waste of money. We have essentially had a ban on handguns forever. The registry was for long guns - 22's, shotguns etc. The creeps on the street are carrying illegal hand guns. The huge money spent on the registry was just another government boondoggle. An attempt to show that the government of the day was doing something about crime. The police support it of course and the soccor mommies and the folks in places like Toronto who don't see why anyone needs to own a gun. Ask the farmer in Manitoba or Saskatchewan who goes out into the fields to check on his cattle why he takes a gun with him. Truly amazing how times have changed in my lifetime. When I was a younger fellow living out in the rural area folks kept long guns in those bracket doodads in the back windows of pick up trucks - visible to all. Go to the post office to pick up the mail and leave the truck idling in the lot with the guns in the brackets - no one thought anything of it. Either that or stuffed under the seat. That was in the 60's and early 70's. God, if you did that now, a SWAT team would shoot you first and then tell the media they were forced to do so because you were seen in public with a gun and they had to take you down before you hurt someone. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:56 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg What I saw on that website reads more like a warzone city like Detroit or east LA... Not just any big American city, thats scary. I'd be interested to see Canadian crime stats since the gun ban really went into force. I've my doubts that banning guns really does anything to reduce crime but I'd like to see some real no spin statistics even if they didn't support my opinion. The problem is I don't think such statistics really exist. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:37:00 -0500 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpmenkngaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Yeah, we are as bad as the big US cities when it comes to crime. And, of course, we don't get to have guns unless we are hoodlums and have them illegally. Getting worse here daily. Gangs of young hoodlums roam the streets shooting and knifing people for fun. Winnipeg used to be a pretty safe place but it is getting to be a situation where one does not go to certain parts of town anymore. Our justice system does not do much to deter them either. Just take along your get out of jail free card and do what you want. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:48 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg Geez Randy reading through the front page of the link you provided makes Winnipeg seem like a war zone! Theres sexual assult, screens to protect bus drivers, carjacking, murder, kidnapping, it all sounds very scary. Makes you want to move someplace safe like east LA... ;) -Curt Note: Sarcasm... I'm sure its all media fear mongering but it does make you think, if Canada is supposed to be such a safe place unlike the land of gun toting wackos (of which I'm one) to the south. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090714/6a056f35/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/a83b6f1f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg
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Re: [MBZ] Snooks new Cad
Did that say custom built or home built? An ugly example in my opinion. They should have put glass in that massive center pillar. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Snooks new Cad http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1269984703.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
always fight a ticket. there are a variety of reasons you might get off. if it comes down to convincing a judge, i wouldn't argue about what my actual speed was but would be prepared to show evidence that you couldn't have *reasonably* known that the speed limit was 20 since that's what you've been charged with exceeding. it may be a tough argument since there *was* a sign there (even if it was partially obliterated), but i'd bring plenty of pictures and try to make it clear that you would have been obeying the law if there was some way you could have known what it actually was! municipalities have a certain responsibility to make it possible for people to know what the regulations are for any specific place; this is what you're playing to, although you'll probably piss off a judge by saying it this way. (if it can be shown that this is an area you aren't familiar with, that wouldn't hurt; of course, if this is part of your regular commute, it might be deemed that you should have known what the speed limit was.) it varies too much from area to area to know the specifics of how things work where you'll be going to court, but i'm 3-0 in fighting my last 3 tickets like this in CA. you may even have the option of a 'Trail by Declaration' where you make your statement and present your evidence by mail (without ever having to appear in court). this often works for you because the citing officer has to present his side the same way, and they're generally not particularly fond of having to do more paperwork (and are frequently surprisingly bad at it). if it makes a big difference to you, talk to a lawyer; they might have some tips for you, but sometimes just having legal representation seems to make enough of a difference that a ruling will come out in your favor. cheers! e Allan Streib wrote: Got my first speeding ticket tonight, 35 in a 20. I thought I was on an unposted stretch of road, which in town would default to a 30 limit. I cant prove I was not going 35 but seems a stretch given the road. It's a very twisty road through a wooded area with a park. Based on the presence of the park the limit is 20. I did not recall seeing any signage to this effect so I drove back over my route and found ONE 20 mph sign but it was partially obscured by spray paint vandalism. Thinking of contesting the ticket. I'm going back in the morning to take photos of the sign and document the lack of any PARK ZONE or additional speed limit signs. Anyone have a feeling whether a judge would dismiss this at a bench trial? Allan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/26b265f5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
er, make that trIAl by declaration,... silly spell check doesn't know what i *meant* to say! ;-) cheers! e ernest breakfield wrote: always fight a ticket. there are a variety of reasons you might get off. if it comes down to convincing a judge, i wouldn't argue about what my actual speed was but would be prepared to show evidence that you couldn't have *reasonably* known that the speed limit was 20 since that's what you've been charged with exceeding. it may be a tough argument since there *was* a sign there (even if it was partially obliterated), but i'd bring plenty of pictures and try to make it clear that you would have been obeying the law if there was some way you could have known what it actually was! municipalities have a certain responsibility to make it possible for people to know what the regulations are for any specific place; this is what you're playing to, although you'll probably piss off a judge by saying it this way. (if it can be shown that this is an area you aren't familiar with, that wouldn't hurt; of course, if this is part of your regular commute, it might be deemed that you should have known what the speed limit was.) it varies too much from area to area to know the specifics of how things work where you'll be going to court, but i'm 3-0 in fighting my last 3 tickets like this in CA. you may even have the option of a 'Trail by Declaration' where you make your statement and present your evidence by mail (without ever having to appear in court). this often works for you because the citing officer has to present his side the same way, and they're generally not particularly fond of having to do more paperwork (and are frequently surprisingly bad at it). if it makes a big difference to you, talk to a lawyer; they might have some tips for you, but sometimes just having legal representation seems to make enough of a difference that a ruling will come out in your favor. cheers! e Allan Streib wrote: Got my first speeding ticket tonight, 35 in a 20. I thought I was on an unposted stretch of road, which in town would default to a 30 limit. I cant prove I was not going 35 but seems a stretch given the road. It's a very twisty road through a wooded area with a park. Based on the presence of the park the limit is 20. I did not recall seeing any signage to this effect so I drove back over my route and found ONE 20 mph sign but it was partially obscured by spray paint vandalism. Thinking of contesting the ticket. I'm going back in the morning to take photos of the sign and document the lack of any PARK ZONE or additional speed limit signs. Anyone have a feeling whether a judge would dismiss this at a bench trial? Allan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/26b265f5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/0dcec18b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
ernest breakfield wrote: try to make it clear that you would have been obeying the law if there was some way you could have known what it actually was! I once got pulled over for going past a 25mph sign at 35mph with my brakes on. AFAIK, the speed limit was 55mph on one side of that sign and 25mph on the other. I hit the brakes as soon as I went around a curve and saw the sign. No ticket, just a long going over from a 'by the book, straight from the academy' cop who was bored. It was about 1:00 AM and I think he was waiting for the nearby tavern to close. He's the only cop who ever compared the VIN on my dash with the VIN on my registration. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding/comparing VIN's
Late one afternoon in '76 at George AFB, CA, (near Victorville) I had dismantled a small, surplus bridge on base and most of the long beams loaded onto my '74 Plymouth van with several feet of each protruding out the back of the van. I had attached a red flag and red reflector the end on one of the beams to improve their visibility for the night trip to my cabin 35 miles away in the San Gabriel Mountains where I planned to use the beams in the building of a deck. Almost immediately after I exited the base onto the main highway for the trip to the cabin flashing blue lights of a CHP cruiser were behind me. I pulled over thinking the officer was gonna jump me for having the beams protruding so far out the back or not having a light on them or question why I was leaving the base loaded with such beams, especially at night. He ask for my license and registration, which I immediately presented, of course. He glanced at them, handed them back and said, Sorry to have bothered you, Sir. Have a nice evening. I put my license back in my wallet, threw the registration card on the engine cover by right leg and proceeded with my trip. 'Coupla days later, I picked up the registration card and, as I started to put it back in the glove compartment, I noticed that the card was for a '64 Dodge van that I had traded a coupla years before for the '76 Plymouth van that I was driving!!! CHP officer never noticed the difference. BTW, 'have no idea what they were looking for. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding ernest breakfield wrote: try to make it clear that you would have been obeying the law if there was some way you could have known what it actually was! I once got pulled over for going past a 25mph sign at 35mph with my brakes on. AFAIK, the speed limit was 55mph on one side of that sign and 25mph on the other. I hit the brakes as soon as I went around a curve and saw the sign. No ticket, just a long going over from a 'by the book, straight from the academy' cop who was bored. It was about 1:00 AM and I think he was waiting for the nearby tavern to close. He's the only cop who ever compared the VIN on my dash with the VIN on my registration. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding/comparing VIN's
Even back then, he may have just been checking to see if you appeared to have been drinking. You appeared sober so he let you go on your way. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding/comparing VIN's Late one afternoon in '76 at George AFB, CA, (near Victorville) I had dismantled a small, surplus bridge on base and most of the long beams loaded onto my '74 Plymouth van with several feet of each protruding out the back of the van. I had attached a red flag and red reflector the end on one of the beams to improve their visibility for the night trip to my cabin 35 miles away in the San Gabriel Mountains where I planned to use the beams in the building of a deck. Almost immediately after I exited the base onto the main highway for the trip to the cabin flashing blue lights of a CHP cruiser were behind me. I pulled over thinking the officer was gonna jump me for having the beams protruding so far out the back or not having a light on them or question why I was leaving the base loaded with such beams, especially at night. He ask for my license and registration, which I immediately presented, of course. He glanced at them, handed them back and said, Sorry to have bothered you, Sir. Have a nice evening. I put my license back in my wallet, threw the registration card on the engine cover by right leg and proceeded with my trip. 'Coupla days later, I picked up the registration card and, as I started to put it back in the glove compartment, I noticed that the card was for a '64 Dodge van that I had traded a coupla years before for the '76 Plymouth van that I was driving!!! CHP officer never noticed the difference. BTW, 'have no idea what they were looking for. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding ernest breakfield wrote: try to make it clear that you would have been obeying the law if there was some way you could have known what it actually was! I once got pulled over for going past a 25mph sign at 35mph with my brakes on. AFAIK, the speed limit was 55mph on one side of that sign and 25mph on the other. I hit the brakes as soon as I went around a curve and saw the sign. No ticket, just a long going over from a 'by the book, straight from the academy' cop who was bored. It was about 1:00 AM and I think he was waiting for the nearby tavern to close. He's the only cop who ever compared the VIN on my dash with the VIN on my registration. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding/comparing VIN's
Yeah, my thought, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding/comparing VIN's Even back then, he may have just been checking to see if you appeared to have been drinking. You appeared sober so he let you go on your way. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding/comparing VIN's Late one afternoon in '76 at George AFB, CA, (near Victorville) I had dismantled a small, surplus bridge on base and most of the long beams loaded onto my '74 Plymouth van with several feet of each protruding out the back of the van. I had attached a red flag and red reflector the end on one of the beams to improve their visibility for the night trip to my cabin 35 miles away in the San Gabriel Mountains where I planned to use the beams in the building of a deck. Almost immediately after I exited the base onto the main highway for the trip to the cabin flashing blue lights of a CHP cruiser were behind me. I pulled over thinking the officer was gonna jump me for having the beams protruding so far out the back or not having a light on them or question why I was leaving the base loaded with such beams, especially at night. He ask for my license and registration, which I immediately presented, of course. He glanced at them, handed them back and said, Sorry to have bothered you, Sir. Have a nice evening. I put my license back in my wallet, threw the registration card on the engine cover by right leg and proceeded with my trip. 'Coupla days later, I picked up the registration card and, as I started to put it back in the glove compartment, I noticed that the card was for a '64 Dodge van that I had traded a coupla years before for the '76 Plymouth van that I was driving!!! CHP officer never noticed the difference. BTW, 'have no idea what they were looking for. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding ernest breakfield wrote: try to make it clear that you would have been obeying the law if there was some way you could have known what it actually was! I once got pulled over for going past a 25mph sign at 35mph with my brakes on. AFAIK, the speed limit was 55mph on one side of that sign and 25mph on the other. I hit the brakes as soon as I went around a curve and saw the sign. No ticket, just a long going over from a 'by the book, straight from the academy' cop who was bored. It was about 1:00 AM and I think he was waiting for the nearby tavern to close. He's the only cop who ever compared the VIN on my dash with the VIN on my registration. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks new Cad
Rich provided the following link: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1269984703.html WOW! That is quite a car. I have seen some of these smaller cars (i.e. this body style as opposed to the big RWD Fleetwoods and Broughams) turned into Limousines, but never one of these. It is really ugly. I have also seen a lot of cars listed as limousines, but they are really six door funeral cars. You might as well just buy a hearse. Seller: See how much room there is back here. You could carry around a dead body! Buyer: What are these rollers here for? Seller: That way you can keep your groceries on a pallet, and they will just slide right out. Buyer: It kind of smells funny back here. Seller: Oh that's just a little formaldy . . . I mean, uh, that's new car smell! Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/0887261b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a lift?
I really need a lift but my garage has a flat roof and the ceiling is less than 10' off the ground so there is no way to lift the car high enough to stand beneath it. Anybody know a good alternative? Perhaps a scissors jack? Andrew 1983, 85 300TD with a long list of to-do's On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a shop closing, 6 lifts for sale http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1270128082.html Rotary is generally good stuff. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/d05d63b7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks new Cad
'Looks strange/funny with that slab of sheet metal on the side between the windows. If they were gonna go to all of that, do just a bit more and do it right. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks new Cad Rich provided the following link: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1269984703.html WOW! That is quite a car. I have seen some of these smaller cars (i.e. this body style as opposed to the big RWD Fleetwoods and Broughams) turned into Limousines, but never one of these. It is really ugly. I have also seen a lot of cars listed as limousines, but they are really six door funeral cars. You might as well just buy a hearse. Seller: See how much room there is back here. You could carry around a dead body! Buyer: What are these rollers here for? Seller: That way you can keep your groceries on a pallet, and they will just slide right out. Buyer: It kind of smells funny back here. Seller: Oh that's just a little formaldy . . . I mean, uh, that's new car smell! Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/0887261b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a lift?
Dig a pit; drive over it. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need a lift? I really need a lift but my garage has a flat roof and the ceiling is less than 10' off the ground so there is no way to lift the car high enough to stand beneath it. Anybody know a good alternative? Perhaps a scissors jack? Andrew 1983, 85 300TD with a long list of to-do's On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a shop closing, 6 lifts for sale http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1270128082.html Rotary is generally good stuff. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/d05d63b7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a lift?
Wilton, you are very BAD. Actually, were it not for an underground river I would consider doing just that. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:52 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Dig a pit; drive over it. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need a lift? I really need a lift but my garage has a flat roof and the ceiling is less than 10' off the ground so there is no way to lift the car high enough to stand beneath it. Anybody know a good alternative? Perhaps a scissors jack? Andrew 1983, 85 300TD with a long list of to-do's On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a shop closing, 6 lifts for sale http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1270128082.html Rotary is generally good stuff. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/d05d63b7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/0dffb661/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Thrumming noise
Troubleshooting challenge! The car: 1985 W123 300TD (wagon) The problem: A noise that sounds a lot like a noisy, big-lugged tire. It is faster than a tire-speed noise, so it's not a stone in the tire, etc. Details: The noise showed up a 1500 miles ago - very faint. I didn't worry about it. About 200 miles ago it started getting louder. Neither my passengers nor I could hear the sound outside the car. (running next to the car or hanging out the window). The sound quits when the brakes are moderately applied. (moderate meaning. a bit brisker than I usually use to approach a known stop sign, not not so agressive it startles any of my passengers) The sound quits when making a moderate right turn. Seems to be g-load rather than steering angle related, but I'm not sure. I put the car on blocks so the back wheels where off the ground. I did not hear the sound. I looked at the front right (starboard) outer wheel bearing. It look okay, but I was in a hotel parking lot so I didn't look super closely. Any clever ideas where to dig next? Because it didn't show up when the back wheel where off the ground _and_ it is influenced by braking and turning, I'm thinking it has to be at the wheels Maybe? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Newest fuel saving device
Hmmm, if you say so... http://www.activesuspension.com/how-to-save-fuel.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Newest fuel saving device
Scientifically engineered for people with more money than brains. -Dave Walton On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Hmmm, if you say so... http://www.activesuspension.com/how-to-save-fuel.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks new Cad
Perfect-complete with leather brief case in trunk. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Snooks new Cad http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1269984703.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
Dwight- is that a real company? Tyler Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: OK-but one last question- when do you use pantyhose? Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Our clams are fresh and our cars are vintage. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Newest fuel saving device
Scientifically engineered BS to lighten one's bank account. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newest fuel saving device Scientifically engineered for people with more money than brains. -Dave Walton On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Hmmm, if you say so... http://www.activesuspension.com/how-to-save-fuel.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a lift?
Install the lift in the drive in front of the garage -- the fresh air will do you good (so said my Mom). On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:02 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Wilton, you are very BAD. Actually, were it not for an underground river I would consider doing just that. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:52 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Dig a pit; drive over it. ;))) Wilton -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/8b6b462d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thrumming noise
Perhaps the drive shaft center bearing? On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Troubleshooting challenge! The car: 1985 W123 300TD (wagon) The problem: A noise that sounds a lot like a noisy, big-lugged tire. It is faster than a tire-speed noise, so it's not a stone in the tire, etc. Details: The noise showed up a 1500 miles ago - very faint. I didn't worry about it. About 200 miles ago it started getting louder. Neither my passengers nor I could hear the sound outside the car. (running next to the car or hanging out the window). The sound quits when the brakes are moderately applied. (moderate meaning. a bit brisker than I usually use to approach a known stop sign, not not so agressive it startles any of my passengers) The sound quits when making a moderate right turn. Seems to be g-load rather than steering angle related, but I'm not sure. I put the car on blocks so the back wheels where off the ground. I did not hear the sound. I looked at the front right (starboard) outer wheel bearing. It look okay, but I was in a hotel parking lot so I didn't look super closely. Any clever ideas where to dig next? Because it didn't show up when the back wheel where off the ground _and_ it is influenced by braking and turning, I'm thinking it has to be at the wheels Maybe? -- Philip -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/611bac91/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks new Cad
If you are going to all that trouble, you should weld on the front from another car, not the rear -- -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/1fdd9fd5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thrumming noise
Check both driveshaft flex disks and also make sure that the axle shaft boots are not torn as a worn hemi-axle shaft can make a loud thumping noise that starts after about 20 min of driving. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:23 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps the drive shaft center bearing? On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Troubleshooting challenge! The car: 1985 W123 300TD (wagon) The problem: A noise that sounds a lot like a noisy, big-lugged tire. It is faster than a tire-speed noise, so it's not a stone in the tire, etc. Details: The noise showed up a 1500 miles ago - very faint. I didn't worry about it. About 200 miles ago it started getting louder. Neither my passengers nor I could hear the sound outside the car. (running next to the car or hanging out the window). The sound quits when the brakes are moderately applied. (moderate meaning. a bit brisker than I usually use to approach a known stop sign, not not so agressive it startles any of my passengers) The sound quits when making a moderate right turn. Seems to be g-load rather than steering angle related, but I'm not sure. I put the car on blocks so the back wheels where off the ground. I did not hear the sound. I looked at the front right (starboard) outer wheel bearing. It look okay, but I was in a hotel parking lot so I didn't look super closely. Any clever ideas where to dig next? Because it didn't show up when the back wheel where off the ground _and_ it is influenced by braking and turning, I'm thinking it has to be at the wheels Maybe? -- Philip -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/611bac91/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cadillac Diesel on CL
uhh, thats the car that I posted about a while back. Donald Snook wrote: http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1271080542.html Great ad, very informative. At least the car has front wheel frive Donald H. Snook 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 124K (For Sale) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/3b101dcf/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.15/2239 - Release Date: 07/15/09 06:07:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/c6a7d55b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Traffic ticket]
mailto:drgene...@hotmail.com *Subject:* Traffic ticket *An **L.A.** Police Officer stops a driver for running a red light. The guy is a real jerk and comes running back to the officer demanding to know why he is being harassed by The Gestapo!* ** *Therefore, the officer calmly tells him of the red light violation. The Motorist instantly goes on a tirade, questioning the officer's ancestry, sexual orientation, etc., in rather explicit terms. The tirade goes on without the officer saying a word.* ** *When he completes the writing=2 0of the ticket, he puts an AH in the lower right corner of the narrative portion of the ticket. He then hands it to the Violator for his signature. The guy signs the ticket angrily, and when presented with his copy points to the AH and demands to know what it stands for. The Police Officer says, That's so when we go to court, I'll remember that you're an Asshole!* ** *Two months later, they're in court. The Violator has such a bad driving record he is about to lose his license and has hired A lawyer to represent him. On the stand, the officer testifies to seeing the man run the red light. Under cross-examination, the defense attorney asks; Officer, is this a reasonable facsimile of the ticket you issued my client? Officer responds, Yes sir, that is the defendants copy, his signature and mine, Same number at the top.* ** *ATTORNEY: Officer is there any particular marking or notation on this ticket you don't normally make?* ** *Officer: Yes sir, in the lower right corner of the narrative There is an AH underlined.* ** *ATTORNEY: What does the AH stand for, officer?* ** *Officer: Aggressive and Hostile, Sir.* ** *ATTORNEY: Aggressive and Hostile?* ** *Officer: Yes Sir.* ** *ATTORNEY: Officer, are you sure it doesn't stand for asshole?* ** *Officer: Well Sir, you know your client better than I do -- Pete Arnold My Mind Not Only Wanders, Sometimes it Leaves Completely! * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
No not really-it is fictional kin to this company Star Motors and Shellfish Co. Shucking but no Jiving Dwight Giles, Jr Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 My front proch is full of clam rakes, bags,etc and old MB's in the driveway so a friend gave it the name . I wish it were a real company. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of tyler Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another... Dwight- is that a real company? Tyler Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: OK-but one last question- when do you use pantyhose? Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Our clams are fresh and our cars are vintage. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thrumming noise
The sound quits when the brakes are moderately applied. The sound quits when making a moderate right turn. My guess is wheel bearings. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thrumming noise
Ah thrumming not thumping. Sorry I misread the word. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Check both driveshaft flex disks and also make sure that the axle shaft boots are not torn as a worn hemi-axle shaft can make a loud thumping noise that starts after about 20 min of driving. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:23 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps the drive shaft center bearing? On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Troubleshooting challenge! The car: 1985 W123 300TD (wagon) The problem: A noise that sounds a lot like a noisy, big-lugged tire. It is faster than a tire-speed noise, so it's not a stone in the tire, etc. Details: The noise showed up a 1500 miles ago - very faint. I didn't worry about it. About 200 miles ago it started getting louder. Neither my passengers nor I could hear the sound outside the car. (running next to the car or hanging out the window). The sound quits when the brakes are moderately applied. (moderate meaning. a bit brisker than I usually use to approach a known stop sign, not not so agressive it startles any of my passengers) The sound quits when making a moderate right turn. Seems to be g-load rather than steering angle related, but I'm not sure. I put the car on blocks so the back wheels where off the ground. I did not hear the sound. I looked at the front right (starboard) outer wheel bearing. It look okay, but I was in a hotel parking lot so I didn't look super closely. Any clever ideas where to dig next? Because it didn't show up when the back wheel where off the ground _and_ it is influenced by braking and turning, I'm thinking it has to be at the wheels Maybe? -- Philip -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/611bac91/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: speeding
Best off to just pay the thing, question is did you miss the sign or was the sign that badly vandalized that any reasonable person would not be able to make out what it was. What is the basis of your challenge? That there was only one partially obscured sign? You have to consider that a court will not go against an officer of the law unless you can absolutely prove that the issuing of the ticket was wrong. Can you do this? I recently got a red light running ticket in my truck, situation was that a bus had partially pulled into my lane whilst wanting to turn at the traffic lights, there was a car to my left and I was busy watching my mirrors and the bus to see how far over I could go, in order to not hit the car or bus. By the time I saw that the lights where just about to turn red it was too late to safely stop. I could go to court and explain the circumstances but the court would most likely say that given my experience I should have done better and stopped the truck if it was unsafe to proceed. Hendrik Allan Streib wrote: Got my first speeding ticket tonight, 35 in a 20. I thought I was on an unposted stretch of road, which in town would default to a 30 limit. I cant prove I was not going 35 but seems a stretch given the road. It's a very twisty road through a wooded area with a park. Based on the presence of the park the limit is 20. I did not recall seeing any signage to this effect so I drove back over my route and found ONE 20 mph sign but it was partially obscured by spray paint vandalism. Thinking of contesting the ticket. I'm going back in the morning to take photos of the sign and document the lack of any PARK ZONE or additional speed limit signs. Anyone have a feeling whether a judge would dismiss this at a bench trial? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thrumming noise
OK Don wrote: Perhaps the drive shaft center bearing? I figured if it was the driveshaft, bearing or flex disks I would hear the sound with the car in the air. But I've never had any of the above go bad before... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thrumming noise
Jim Cathey wrote: The sound quits when the brakes are moderately applied. The sound quits when making a moderate right turn. My guess is wheel bearings. Okay. 'tis the direction I am leaning. But I'm also lazy, and is someone has already chased this goose. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a lift?
OK Don wrote: Install the lift in the drive in front of the garage -- the fresh air will do you good (so said my Mom). But don't stay out in the rain, or you'll catch pneumonia - said my mom. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: Fw: FW: Memorial Service: you're invited.
Begin forwarded message: Subject: FW: Memorial Service: you're invited. Vets, This is from Glenn Tegtmeyer.Every once in a while a real hero passes through our lives -- I once met a Marine Colonel (ret) who had been at Chosun Reservoir. The subject of this e-mail is Darrell Shifty Powers, a WWII Veteran and member of the 101st, and he made all the jumps. David Veterans Committee Subject: FW: Memorial Service: you're invited. Don't normally forward these kind of things, but I'm making an exception for Shifty. Subject: Fw: Memorial Service: you're invited. After all the fall-d-rah in LA a couple of weeks ago this is refreshing and timely..Rest with God Shifty. Warmest to all, cj _ Memorial Service: you're invited. Shifty volunteered for the airborne in WWII and served with Easy Company of the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, part of the 101st Airborne Infantry. If you've seen Band of Brothers on HBO or the History Channel, you know Shifty. His character appears in all 10 episodes, and Shifty himself is interviewed in several of them. I met Shifty in the Philadelphia airport several years ago. I didn't know who he was at the time. I just saw an elderly gentleman having trouble reading his ticket. I offered to help, assured him that he was at the right gate, and noticed the Screaming Eagle, the symbol of the 101st Airborne, on his hat. Making conversation, I asked him if he'd been in the 101st Airborne or if his son was serving. He said quietly that he had been in the 101st. I thanked him for his service, then asked him when he served, and how many jumps he made. Quietly and humbly, he said Well, I guess I signed up in 1941 or so, and was in until sometime in 1945 . . . at which point my heart skipped. At that point, again, very humbly, he said I made the 5 training jumps at Toccoa, and then jumped into Normandy . . . . do you know where Normandy is? At this point my heart stopped. I told him yes, I know exactly where Normandy was, and I know what D-Day was. At that point he said I also made a second jump into Holland , into Arnhem. I was standing with a genuine war hero . . . . and then I realized that it was June, just after the anniversary of D-Day. I asked Shifty if he was on his way back from France, and he said Yes. And it's real sad because these days so few of the guys are left, and those that are, lots of them can't make the trip. My heart was in my throat and I didn't know what to say. I helped Shifty get onto the plane and then realized he was back in Coach, while I was in First Class. I sent the flight attendant back to get him and said that I wanted to switch seats. When Shifty came forward, I got up out of the seat and told him I wanted him to have it, that I'd take his in coach. He said No, son, you enjoy that seat. Just knowing that there are still some who remember what we did and still care is enough to make an old man very happy. His eyes were filling up as he said it. And mine are brimming up now as I write this. Shifty died on June 17, 2009 after fighting cancer. There was no parade. No big event in Staples Center . No wall to wall back to back 24x7 news coverage. No weeping fans on television. And that's not right. Let's give Shifty his own Memorial Service, online, in our own quiet way. Please forward this email to those who you know still care, especially to the veterans. Rest in peace, Shifty. A nation without heroes is nothing. (Roberto Clemente) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ATT00201.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14272 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/09bcf510/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
maybe the best of the 70s art rockers at that time On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Frederick W Moir wrote: Dwight, et al. No nylon stockings, only high heels! High Heeled Boys? Traffic? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVlbgqmxXNY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090716/eb5b6349/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
Roxy Music On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: maybe the best of the 70s art rockers at that time On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Frederick W Moir wrote: Dwight, et al. No nylon stockings, only high heels! High Heeled Boys? Traffic? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVlbgqmxXNY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090716/eb5b6349/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/86b0e29b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
yeah, i mean, it's hard to say. roxy music certainly. pink floyd really pushed it the farthest and longest. genesis before they became a top 40 band from the same show. looks to be a cheap jap guitar from here for steve winwood. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_nwbTeIN4Yfeature=related On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Roxy Music On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: maybe the best of the 70s art rockers at that time On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Frederick W Moir wrote: Dwight, et al. No nylon stockings, only high heels! High Heeled Boys? Traffic? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVlbgqmxXNY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090716/eb5b6349/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/86b0e29b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090716/1dc74fe5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a lift?
And, when you are not using the pit for MB work, you can build abig fire in it, put in lots of stones to heat up and turn it into an Imu fo' cook your pua. http://www.primitiveways.com/Imu1.html Wrap your pua in large leaves (ti is preferred) and cover it with the hot rocks. Come back in 12-24 hours and start your luau! No Pua, no prob, brah! Just make a hillbilly luau. Bait live traps with meat or sweetcorn overnight. Next mornin' skin da coons an wrap up all of em like fo pua, and trow dem in da imu. At 03:52 PM 7/15/2009, you wrote: Dig a pit; drive over it. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need a lift? I really need a lift but my garage has a flat roof and the ceiling is less than 10' off the ground so there is no way to lift the car high enough to stand beneath it. Anybody know a good alternative? Perhaps a scissors jack? Andrew 1983, 85 300TD with a long list of to-do's On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a shop closing, 6 lifts for sale http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1270128082.html Rotary is generally good stuff. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090715/d05d63b7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Newest fuel saving device
Connection Interrupted... Mitch Haley wrote: Hmmm, if you say so... http://www.activesuspension.com/how-to-save-fuel.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com