[MBZ] 1990 350SDL intermittent temp gauge: Was '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread Angelo Giaimo
OK Don wrote:

Sounds like it might be a loose/corroded ground connection - I'd check/clean
those before blaming the gauge ---
=

Yah, before I spend big bucks for a new gauge cluster ($800 plus at the
stealer; $199 used from Potomic.) I'd look for something simple first.  The
replacement gauge is the last resort.

Thanks,

Angelo
1990 350SDL



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Re: [MBZ] was Ring 2.2, now showroom visit

2010-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond
At the extremes (1 or 2 days a year) we have something like a 120 degree 
spread...

Oh wait, thats American degrees. 100 degree spread in Canadian degrees is more 
impressive.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:52:11 -0500
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] was Ring 2.2, now showroom visit
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We do have over a 100 temp spread, closer to 108 or 110 spread - but we have
more summer than winter, the opposite of you.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 We get lots of hot and humid too as you probably know.  Many days this
 summer over 100 with the humidex.  I read somewhere that we have one of the
 greatest temp spreads in the world between summer and winter; almost 100
 degrees.  One reason it's easy to find low mileage sports cars here, most
 are parked 7 months of the year! lol

 Ed

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Re: [MBZ] was Ring 2.2, now showroom visit

2010-08-29 Thread E M
Sorry, I should have be more clear.  I just between F and C all the time.  I
was educated at a time in Canada, where we were just changing over to
metric.  While metric is official, it's not uncommon to hear people still
use Imperial.  Especially with things like building materials.  I always
order food by the pound, not kilo.  Speed is pretty much metric, and it
sounds more impressive too. lol.  I jump back and forth with temps, but I
tend to lean more towards your system.  To say it's 100 out, everyone knows
it hot.  To say it's 42C, doesn't sound quite as impressive.

100 is a nice natural number.  100 degrees F is hot, 100 mph is fast, 100
lbs. of chicken is a big BBQ.  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 29 August 2010 09:48, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 At the extremes (1 or 2 days a year) we have something like a 120 degree
 spread...

 Oh wait, thats American degrees. 100 degree spread in Canadian degrees is
 more impressive.

 -Curt

 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:52:11 -0500
 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was Ring 2.2, now showroom visit
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 We do have over a 100 temp spread, closer to 108 or 110 spread - but we
 have
 more summer than winter, the opposite of you.

 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

  We get lots of hot and humid too as you probably know.  Many days this
  summer over 100 with the humidex.  I read somewhere that we have one of
 the
  greatest temp spreads in the world between summer and winter; almost 100
  degrees.  One reason it's easy to find low mileage sports cars here, most
  are parked 7 months of the year! lol
 
  Ed
 
 OK Don
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 1992 300D 2.5T
 1990 300D 2.5T
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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread WILTON
My first thought, too, but all other gages are normal and I couldn't get the 
gage to change by banging on it.

'Course, it ain't over yet, either.

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond


Sounds like it might be a loose/corroded ground connection - I'd 
check/clean

those before blaming the gauge ---

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Angelo Giaimo
michaelangel...@gmail.comwrote:


On my '90 350SDL with aux fans that won't kick in and an erratic temp
guage,
(goes from 85 to pegged @ 120+, and back again), a slight tap at the top 
of

the dashboard above the gauge will cause it to jump, so we figured the
guage
it intermittent.




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Re: [MBZ] was Ring 2.2, now showroom visit

2010-08-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:04:41 -0400 E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 100 is a nice natural number.  100 degrees F is hot, 100 mph is fast,
 100 lbs. of chicken is a big BBQ.  ;-)

100 degrees C is REALLY hot, 100 kph is not so fast, 100 kg of chicken is
a REALLY big BBQ!  :-)


Craig

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[MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2010-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble

Somebody buy this, before I do...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120614687013viewitem=sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2010-08-29 Thread Rich Thomas
My daughter is in Gboro should anyone need a pair of eyes on it.  I like 
that color, but the black/gray seems a bit odd to go with it.


--R

On 8/29/10 12:51 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

Somebody buy this, before I do...

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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 rear suspension overhaul - phase 2

2010-08-29 Thread Rich Thomas
You are gonna be a Benz mech expert pretty soon with all that work.  
Good job, that car will be ready for the next 20 years!


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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2010-08-29 Thread WILTON

'Fraid I'm gonna hafta let it go.

Wilton

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Somebody buy this, before I do...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120614687013viewitem=sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2010-08-29 Thread OK Don
Yup - looks nice. Wht's that stuff hanging below the steerng column?

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote:


 Somebody buy this, before I do...


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120614687013viewitem=sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

 Rick


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[MBZ] 91 350SDL leaking injectors

2010-08-29 Thread WILTON
'Noticed fuel around 3 injectors; replaced fuel return lines, 'started engine 
to check security of new return lines and found 3 injectors leaking fuel 
(bubbling profusely) at the base - NOT RETURN INES.  More great fun.

Wilton  
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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread WILTON
'Could have sworn I replaced KLIMA on this car 10 or 12 years ago.  Now I 
can't remember where it is.  Can somebody remind me?  Is it the black box 
'bout 2 X 1 1/4 labeled KL1 immediately behind forward firewall and left 
of center?


Wilton

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From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond


Sounds like it might be a loose/corroded ground connection - I'd 
check/clean

those before blaming the gauge ---

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Angelo Giaimo
michaelangel...@gmail.comwrote:


On my '90 350SDL with aux fans that won't kick in and an erratic temp
guage,
(goes from 85 to pegged @ 120+, and back again), a slight tap at the top 
of

the dashboard above the gauge will cause it to jump, so we figured the
guage
it intermittent.




OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL leaking injectors

2010-08-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:14:54 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Noticed fuel around 3 injectors; replaced fuel return lines, 'started
 engine to check security of new return lines and found 3 injectors
 leaking fuel (bubbling profusely) at the base - NOT RETURN INES.

When our 240D/3.0 was bubbling around the base (where the injectors screw
into the prechamber), it was because someone who had done work before had
not put the injector seals in when they put it back together -- some
spilled diesel acted as leak detect fluid and exposed the leak with
bubbles.

Yours sounds different, though, like it's actually leaking diesel from
some place on the injectors and not making bubbles where they screw into
the prechambers.


 More great fun.

Probably fun you wish you could avoid.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2010-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Im in love.

Rick Knoble wrote:

Somebody buy this, before I do...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120614687013viewitem=sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2010-08-29 Thread OK Don
Don't let this one get away ---

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Im in love.

 Rick Knoble wrote:

  Somebody buy this, before I do...


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120614687013viewitem=sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

 Rick


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[MBZ] OBD scanners for our old and newer MBs

2010-08-29 Thread OK Don
Anyone have recommendations for OBD code scanners? I have a CEL I need to
diagnose on the ML, the  Plymouth van should also be OBD enabled.

Kaleb made reference to plugging something into the diagnostic port on a 124
(just in front of the battery). Now the 124 port is not OBD standard - what
do you use to read codes from it?

Should one get a scanner with real time read-out, or is that just for tuners
and giggles?

Anti-lock Brakes seem to have their own protocol and a scanner to read their
codes is an upgrade?

Stand-alone dedicated box, or adapter to USB to read with a laptop?


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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL leaking injectors

2010-08-29 Thread WILTON

Sure looks to me like it's bubbling at the base where they screw in.

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL leaking injectors



On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:14:54 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


'Noticed fuel around 3 injectors; replaced fuel return lines, 'started
engine to check security of new return lines and found 3 injectors
leaking fuel (bubbling profusely) at the base - NOT RETURN INES.


When our 240D/3.0 was bubbling around the base (where the injectors screw
into the prechamber), it was because someone who had done work before had
not put the injector seals in when they put it back together -- some
spilled diesel acted as leak detect fluid and exposed the leak with
bubbles.

Yours sounds different, though, like it's actually leaking diesel from
some place on the injectors and not making bubbles where they screw into
the prechambers.



More great fun.


Probably fun you wish you could avoid.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL leaking injectors

2010-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick
If it's bubbling gas and liquid, the seal at the injector to pre- 
chamber or the seal at the pre-chamber to head is bad -- you can tell  
which by where the bubbles are.  Either way, enough unburned fuel  
will collect to make the bubbles.


Hope it's the injector seal, that one is fairly easy to fix.  Much  
more of a pain if the pre-chambers aren't sealing.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OBD scanners for our old and newer MBs

2010-08-29 Thread Mitch Haley

OK Don wrote:

Anyone have recommendations for OBD code scanners? I have a CEL I need to
diagnose on the ML, the  Plymouth van should also be OBD enabled.


No scanner needed for Mopar.
Just turn the ignition onoffonoffon
If it has digital odometer, it should display the codes.
If the odo is a bunch of wheels, you'll have to count flashes of the CEL.

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2010-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170531812691ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Ditto this one. Still under three hundred bucks...

Rick

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 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:51:58 -0700
 Subject: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This
 
 
 Somebody buy this, before I do...
 
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[MBZ] OLD Mercedes cars

2010-08-29 Thread OK Don
Who knew that Mercedes built rear engined cars?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/automobiles/29REAR.html?pagewanted=1_r=1hpw

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Re: [MBZ] OBD scanners for our old and newer MBs

2010-08-29 Thread OK Don
It has a digital odometer, but you still have to count flashes - enough of a
pain that I want a device to do it for me. It sould also decode them, while
it's at it.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 OK Don wrote:

 Anyone have recommendations for OBD code scanners? I have a CEL I need to
 diagnose on the ML, the  Plymouth van should also be OBD enabled.


 No scanner needed for Mopar.
 Just turn the ignition onoffonoffon
 If it has digital odometer, it should display the codes.
 If the odo is a bunch of wheels, you'll have to count flashes of the CEL.


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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread Jim Cathey

I can't remember where [Klima] is.  Can somebody remind me?


My notes say that it's next to the fuse box.  Mine all
say D-Klima on them, as I recall.  Notes say SDL's Klima
part number is 001 545 80 05.

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Re: [MBZ] OLD Mercedes cars

2010-08-29 Thread E M
There was a nice little video bit on Jay Leno's site on these cars.  If I
can find it, I'll post the link.

Ed
300E

On 29 August 2010 19:53, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who knew that Mercedes built rear engined cars?


 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/automobiles/29REAR.html?pagewanted=1_r=1hpw

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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 rear suspension overhaul - phase 2

2010-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
You certainly make the spring removal sound easy; I'm almost looking 
forward to the LCA bushings.  In addition to removing the outer 
bolt, I think the bottom bolt for the shock and also the bolt for 
the torsion spring need to be removed.  Is there much tension on the 
torsion spring?


You are right, the shock and torsion link need to be removed.  That 
will be obvious when you tackle the LCA.  There is really nothing 
special about removing the LCA, jus support the car at the rear jack 
points, then put the jack under the LCA, pull the bolt, then loser 
the LCA until the spring is loose.




I'm NOT looking forward to the subframe mounts.  I have a feeling 
that I'll spend an entire day working on those.  I did find a very 
nice write-up, which includes pictures and procedures for making 
wooden approximations of the special tools.



It is not that bad.  much easier than 123/126.



In the meanwhile, I probably will do the LCA bushings next month, 
then some steering components, and then get an alignment.  Subframe 
mounts may very well end up as a winter project.


As far as special tools, I have one box for them, and so anytime I 
need one I generally have to dig through all of them, which keeps me 
from forgetting what's in the box.


-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dieselhead
Sent: Sat 8/28/2010 2:48 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 rear suspension overhaul - phase 2



NO!   The spring is between the rear subframe and the LCA   The
spring is easy.  put the rear on jackstands under the jack points.
Put the jack under the LCA and remove the outer bolt.  Lower the jack
and catch the spring as it falls out.  Note which pad is top and wich
is bottom.

after this step is done, then put the jack under the diff, remove the
subframe mount bolts.  Lower the jack.


then remove the wheel carrier and a good alignment shop can change
the bushing for a few bucks, and you don't need the special tool.

I am cleaning the garage, and finding tools I forgot i owned.  The
problem with special tools is that unless you are uber organized,
and spend the time to keep everything that way, you can't find the
special tool when you need it.

I am off to HF now to buy my third sawzall type saw, because I
apparently left both mine at Daughter's house  and to buy my
third circular saw, because on in at the north of the US and one is
at the south US... and none here




Yes, I can see that dropping a side would help mucho, but doesn't
that also mean dealing with the suspension spring?  I'm trying to
avoid taking too much apart now.  Subframe mounts are planned for
phase 3, along with the spring link (aka lower control arm)
bushings.  Funny - I thought from the EPC pictures that the outer
bushing for the spring link was in the link, not in the wheel
carrier, guess I should have looked at the car first.  Oh well, all
new parts much easier to get to and take apart now.

Yes, I did remember to raise the axle to level before tightening.
I'm sure I could use a vice grips for most of the fasteners in the
car, but then I wouldn't have an excuse to buy more tools!  What a
boring tool box: hammer, vice grips, screw driver, duct tape...

OK, I've got a few house-keeping jobs and then I'm going to tackle
the other side.  It would be really nice if that special 'ring
wrench' would be delivered by FedEx today.

-Max



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Sent: Sat 8/28/2010 9:30 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 rear suspension overhaul - phase 2



It is a lot easier if you drop the side by taking out the two
subframe bolts on that side.  You may as well change the subframe
mounts while you are there.  And, the LCA should be done at the same
time, as all the links have to be taken out again to change the

 bushing in the wheel carrier unless you have the special tool for

that.

FYI, the special tool I used for tightening the new triple square
bolts is a set of vice grips.

Reminder: before you tighten any bolts, the rear wheel carrier needs
to be jacked up into the normal position as if the car was on the
ground.



Dieselvolk,

Over the last couple of nights I replaced the four struts on one
side; about six hours invested so far.  Special tools definitely
help, specifically a 12mm triple-square bit in a 1/2 socket (I only
have the K-D tools version that has a 1/2 inch hex shaft about 2
inches long with the triple square bit at one end, need to find a
source for shorter socket version), and the tie rod thrust piece
tool 201 589 13 33 00.  Also, the original cam-bolt on the inside
end of the tie rod strut is 10mm triple-square vice 12mm;
fortunately I had that size.

I've got the 'ring wrench' on order with Rusty, should have that in
the next few days.  201 589 00 03 00, I'm hoping this will permit
proper torque application for inner bolts.

Put the car up on jacks, 

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
You can pull the KLIMA relay and jump two terminals there to 
determine if a faulty Klima is the problem..  I can't remember the 
terminals, but if you have a wiring diagram, you should be able to 
figger it out.



Power for the low pressure switch goes through the KLIMA from the 
PBCU -- if you don't have power there, it's the PBCU.  High pressure 
switch for the fan probably does not, but I'm not sure on the 350 
SDL -- if it's the W14o, it could be anything since it's got a 
digital system rather than an analog one for ACC.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OLD Mercedes cars

2010-08-29 Thread E M
Found the link I mentioned.

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/at-the-garage/antiques/vintage-mercedes-round-up/

Enjoy. :-)

Ed
300E

On 29 August 2010 19:53, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who knew that Mercedes built rear engined cars?


 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/automobiles/29REAR.html?pagewanted=1_r=1hpw

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Re: [MBZ] OLD Mercedes cars

2010-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
I did.  I also know Dr. Ferdinand Porsche worked for DB, before he 
went on his own.   Porsche was a Mercedes Man




Who knew that Mercedes built rear engined cars?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/automobiles/29REAR.html?pagewanted=1_r=1hpw

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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
I believe all the originals said KLIMA but I have seen some that 
don't say KLIMA, but have a K, and I think I have seen at least one 
that says nothing.


it is on the left side, between the front and rear firewalls.



I can't remember where [Klima] is.  Can somebody remind me?


My notes say that it's next to the fuse box.  Mine all
say D-Klima on them, as I recall.  Notes say SDL's Klima
part number is 001 545 80 05.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OLD Mercedes cars

2010-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
Interesting that the head guy at the CA classic center is a McPherson 
College grad.  Not surprising.





Who knew that Mercedes built rear engined cars?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/automobiles/29REAR.html?pagewanted=1_r=1hpw

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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread WILTON
I think that's OVP near the fuse box; 'has clear plastic top with spade type 
fuse in the top.


Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond



I can't remember where [Klima] is.  Can somebody remind me?


My notes say that it's next to the fuse box.  Mine all
say D-Klima on them, as I recall.  Notes say SDL's Klima
part number is 001 545 80 05.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread WILTON
The small black box about 2+ by 1+ between the two firewalls and just to 
left of center?  Says KL1?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond


I believe all the originals said KLIMA but I have seen some that don't say 
KLIMA, but have a K, and I think I have seen at least one that says 
nothing.


it is on the left side, between the front and rear firewalls.



I can't remember where [Klima] is.  Can somebody remind me?


My notes say that it's next to the fuse box.  Mine all
say D-Klima on them, as I recall.  Notes say SDL's Klima
part number is 001 545 80 05.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread Dieselhead


That should be it.  I will try to pull mine tomorrow and i think by 
looking at it, I can tell you which terminals to jump.


Anyone else got the magic for jumping the Klima?  Jim?



The small black box about 2+ by 1+ between the two firewalls and 
just to left of center?  Says KL1?


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

I believe all the originals said KLIMA but I have seen some that 
don't say KLIMA, but have a K, and I think I have seen at least one 
that says nothing.


it is on the left side, between the front and rear firewalls.


I can't remember where [Klima] is.  Can somebody remind me?


My notes say that it's next to the fuse box.  Mine all
say D-Klima on them, as I recall.  Notes say SDL's Klima
part number is 001 545 80 05.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] OT VARIAC

2010-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
Ok, you electronheads out there!  I am cleaning out the garage, and 
needed to move one Variac I have.  I have two. These are panel mount, 
probably 1960-70 vintage, and without reading the tag, I'd guess they 
are 10 or 15 amp capacity.


I was wondering if y'all have any suggestions for using them, since I 
have never used them since I got them.


One is in an electricity trainer that is portable in a plywood 
cabinet that also has a great voltmeter, and ammeter.  I always 
thought it would make a great tool chest/cabinet, but never had the 
heard to destroy the trainer to convert it.   The other is in a 
portable woodencase with a big heavy cord hooked to an outlet and an 
ammeter


It would have worked to make my old monkey wards table saw with the 
universal motor into a variable speed table saw.  But, I don't have 
that screamin demon any more.


 What might a Variac be worth on the fleabay market?

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Re: [MBZ] OT VARIAC

2010-08-29 Thread E M
The only use I know for a Variac is to dial down the power in an old
Marshall guitar amp, like a Plexi.  This was a set up made famous by Eddie
Van Halen on his first few albums.  He would dial back the voltage to 90
volts I think, and it would brown out the sound.  Helps preserve the tubes
on the old amps too from what I hear.

If you're selling a variac, you might have the best chance of a buying, and
a good price, if you look to someone how wants one for an old amp setup.

Ed
300E, and an old Marshall many years ago.

On 29 August 2010 22:58, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, you electronheads out there!  I am cleaning out the garage, and needed
 to move one Variac I have.  I have two. These are panel mount, probably
 1960-70 vintage, and without reading the tag, I'd guess they are 10 or 15
 amp capacity.

 I was wondering if y'all have any suggestions for using them, since I have
 never used them since I got them.

 One is in an electricity trainer that is portable in a plywood cabinet that
 also has a great voltmeter, and ammeter.  I always thought it would make a
 great tool chest/cabinet, but never had the heard to destroy the trainer to
 convert it.   The other is in a portable woodencase with a big heavy cord
 hooked to an outlet and an ammeter

 It would have worked to make my old monkey wards table saw with the
 universal motor into a variable speed table saw.  But, I don't have that
 screamin demon any more.

  What might a Variac be worth on the fleabay market?

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Re: [MBZ] OT VARIAC

2010-08-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:58:32 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

   What might a Variac be worth on the fleabay market?

I looked on eBay and saw many variable autotransformers being offered,
but very few with bids. A lot were Buy it now, so they would disappear
when they got bids.

The amount you could get for a variac(R) will depend upon its current
rating.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT VARIAC

2010-08-29 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Post em on a tesla coil webring, a lot of people use them in spark gap or
vac tube ones to dial in the neon sign transformers.

Walt

On Aug 30, 2010 12:14 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:58:32 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 What might a Variac ...
I looked on eBay and saw many variable autotransformers being offered,
but very few with bids. A lot were Buy it now, so they would disappear
when they got bids.

The amount you could get for a variac(R) will depend upon its current
rating.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT VARIAC

2010-08-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, you electronheads out there!  I am cleaning out the garage, and needed
 to move one Variac I have.  I have two. These are panel mount, probably
 1960-70 vintage, and without reading the tag, I'd guess they are 10 or 15
 amp capacity.

 I was wondering if y'all have any suggestions for using them, since I have
 never used them since I got them.


They work great for controlling infrared heat units in a plastic
vacuum forming setup where you need to get the temperature exactly
right to soften the plastic but not scorch it.   I've been tossing
around the idea of setting up something like that to reproduce NLA
plastic interior parts, e.g. 107 SLC seat hinge covers.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OBD scanners for our old and newer MBs

2010-08-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:32 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone have recommendations for OBD code scanners? I have a CEL I need to
 diagnose on the ML, the  Plymouth van should also be OBD enabled.

Didn't we just go through this?  For the 'Murrican cars, the ones they
sell at FLAPS are fine.  I like Actron; I think they make one for $150
or so, maybe $100 on sale, that does a little bit of realtime data
(yes it's useful if you want to diagnose an intermittent O2 sensor,
coil pack, etc.) and also gives you the code translation right on the
screen rather than making you look it up in the book (which you might
not have packed on a trip, e.g.)

For the Benz, you need the factory setup ($) or an aftermarket
setup that speaks the Benz trouble codes, which are a superset of
OBD2. (Only $$$.)  Try for a Snap-On MT-2500 on Fleabay with the
European adapters and cartridges through the ML's year of
manufacture---seems like a lot of pro mechanics are selling those off
now in favor of newer toys.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT VARIAC

2010-08-29 Thread Jim Cathey

The only use I know for a Variac is to dial down the power in an old
Marshall guitar amp, like a Plexi.


They make excellent lamp dimmers, they'll take the filaments
down to glowing red worms and with no buzzing, either.  They're
absolutely essential for bringing up long-dormant tube gear, too.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread Jim Cathey

Anyone else got the magic for jumping the Klima?  Jim?


All on this itty-bitty card:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html

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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone else got the magic for jumping the Klima?  Jim?


It is in the 124 FSM, file 83-605.pdf.  According to the Model Year
1986 Model 126 Supplement which Steve Nervig helpfully included in
his 126 FSM index, the test procedure for the Klima is exactly the
same between 124 and '86-on 126.  If you follow the whole procedure
you can test all the input and output signals at the pins of the Klima
socket (and, therefore, of course, deduce, if necessary, that it is
faulty, if all the inputs and outputs are correct but your compressor
still isn't turning on when it should).  Along the way you get to test
the A/C pressure switches, the fan switch, and the compressor speed
sensor, if I recall correctly.

I've emailed the file directly to Wilton.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond

2010-08-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 Anyone else got the magic for jumping the Klima?  Jim?

 All on this itty-bitty card:

        http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html


Whoops, Jim's way ahead of me.  Very neat work there, Dr. Cathey.  A
bit easier to follow than the multi-page flowcharts in the FSM.

Alex

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