Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Jim Cathey
some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there looks 
to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread redghost
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to  
redo the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block  
for cracks there.  Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have  
the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.   
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.


Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there  
looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to redo
 the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block for cracks
 there.  Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the fight with
 SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.  Best to let her go I
 can always find another wife anyway.

 Clay

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

 some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there looks to
 be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.

 Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread redghost
he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the mood  
to humor my attempts to make Gump run.  Figure I just bank this for  
another day when I have a stupid desire for a car and I can trot out  
how I finally gave up on Gump and she should now humor me once more.


Clay



On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have  
to redo
the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block for  
cracks
there.  Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the  
fight with
SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.  Best to let her  
go I

can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there  
looks to

be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I've got a 2.4 with pump gremlins if that helps you any?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the mood to
 humor my attempts to make Gump run.  Figure I just bank this for another day
 when I have a stupid desire for a car and I can trot out how I finally gave
 up on Gump and she should now humor me once more.

 Clay



 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:

 Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine?

 Walt

 On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to
 redo
 the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block for cracks
 there.  Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the fight
 with
 SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.  Best to let her
 go I
 can always find another wife anyway.

 Clay

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

 some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there looks to
 be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.

 Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Bio who?

2011-07-23 Thread ernest breakfield
San Francisco set up a system to do something very much like this some 
years ago, but seems to have issues related to dealing with the storage 
tanks (not the fuel itself).

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/transportation/2011/01/san-francisco-falling-short-use-biodiesel-public-vehicles


cheers!
e


On 22/Jul/11 12:57, andrew strasfogel wrote:

My final answer on the home biodiesel refining debacle is that all the
used cooking oil should be collected and centrally processed in a
commercial, scaled up refinery for use by WMATA in public transit buses.
End of story.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:


Andrew was up there getting his feedstocks for his incipient biofuel
business in DC?

A coupla goobers got caught yesterday somewhere around here leaving the
scene of a smoking building, one of the goobers had half his hand missing
and 3rd degree burns on it.  Can you say, Live wires, Darwin?  Go ahead, I
know you can...  Caught red-handed I guess!

--R


On 7/22/11 12:09 PM, Allan Streib wrote:


Wire thief was recently electrocuted here when he tried to steal wire
from a live electrical substation.  Some discussion of Darwin's
theories ensued.


On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:45 -0400, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net   wrote:


I can remember reading about oil-jackings about 8-10 years ago, but
not recently. The serial thefts you'd read about involved somebody
going around with a truck, breaking locks on the tanks, and pumping
them out. I always figured they were wholesaling it, like when thieves
steal aluminum guardrails or copper wiring and pipe.

Mitch.

Fred Moir wrote:


Desperate time call for desperate measures?

http://www.thebostonchannel.**com/news/28631889/detail.htmlhttp://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/28631889/detail.html

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Re: [MBZ] Bio who?

2011-07-23 Thread ernest breakfield



On 22/Jul/11 13:52, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Now I am really confused.

Can you purchase a pump product labeled B20 that is pre-blended to
containing 20 percent (of what - refined biodiesel


yes. the 'B' indicates that 'x' percentage of BioDiesel is blended with 
regular #2 Diesel fuel. B5? 5% BioD/95% #2. B20? 20% BioD/80% #2.




  OR strained WVO OR pure
vegetable oil??)


no. contrary to what many in the confused press would have you believe, 
SVO/WVO are not BioDiesel, but rather what BioD is made *from*.




  or does one add 2 gallons of cooking oil to the tank along
with 8 gallons of regular diesel to achieve B20.


no. (see above)



   IMO, from what I have
read, commercially refined pure biodiesel should be OK to burn in a Mercedes
or any diesel engine without having to be blended 20/80 with diesel fuel.


no longer true. it was true until the advent of Late Post-Injection 
Particulate Trap systems introduced by several vehicle manufacturers 
circa 2006.5; these don't play well with Biodiesel. experiments are 
ongoing to determine how much Biodiesel can be used with these systems, 
but initial prospects are not promising. (issue is related to 
contamination of engine oil).




WTF.

Andrew (who longs for the day when his 300TD exhaust smells of freedom fries
but not urea)


BioD smells more like a hot wok, to me. WVO smells more like burgers on 
the griddle.;-)



cheers!
e

'85 300D (~75K miles almost exclusively on B99 or higher Biodiesel)



On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net  wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:


My final answer on the home biodiesel refining debacle is that all the
used cooking oil should be collected and centrally processed in a
commercial, scaled up refinery for use by WMATA in public transit buses.
End of story.


A nearby (well, 40 miles north of here) school district started running B20
when bio-D was the latest fad.

http://domesticfuel.com/2009/**10/26/michigan-school-bus-**
hits-milestone-with-biodiesel/http://domesticfuel.com/2009/10/26/michigan-school-bus-hits-milestone-with-biodiesel/


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Re: [MBZ] Bio who?

2011-07-23 Thread ernest breakfield

safest answer? none.

if you live where it's particularly hot and regularly do a lot of 
long-distance driving you might get away with it for a while without 
adding your car to the pile of cars that have been destroyed by people 
doing exactly that.



cheers!
e


On 22/Jul/11 14:32, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Ok - next question.  How many gallons of filtered WVO can I add to the10
gallons of diesel fuel that is currently in the tank without damaging
anything?  Tank capacity is nominally 18.6 gallons.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.comwrote:


Andrew,
  If you make longer trips a wvo conversion would be good for you as there
are folks advertising already filtered wvo on craigslist in the VA area for
around $2 per gallon.  Wvo is no good for short trips.  Wvo is not
biodiesel
until it is processed.

Mike
  On Jul 22, 2011 4:52 PM, andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com
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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Canfield
Clay,
  Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby could be much,
much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to
 redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
 for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
 the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
 Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

 Clay

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

 some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
 looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.

 Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Replacement engine cooling fan for OM606?

2011-07-23 Thread Max Dillon
Too bad you won't make it down here, probably baking like an oven up there. 
Next time perhaps.

Max
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Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

Read all about it:

http://tank.windwireless.net/~jimc/SDLcool.html

Thanks to Jim for writing it up for us. I don't say it enough but his logs
have been very helpful to me.

I'll be on the Kueny side. Might even stop in for a sammich, my parents are
zoo members.

Best,
-Tim
Not finishing the 300D for the ninth weekend in a row

On Jul 22, 2011 7:40 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Yes, apparently dirt can prevent proper operation. I'll be checking that
tomorrow.

What part of SC? Rich and I are in Charleston.


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Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

Like $200+ cheap, at least for the 603.
I pulled two from the junkyar...

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Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

2011-07-23 Thread Max Dillon
Your iphone can't spell as well a my android, you should dump it and get one 
like mine (HTC Evo 4g)  ;)

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Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

Todd,

A former business partner was into woodgas heavily tongue point where he 
corresponded regularly with a guy in one offend Nordic countries who is 
considered an expert on the subject.

He went so far as to design and build a woodgas system for his farm tractor 
based on WWII designs still available in out of date literature.

He was also a closet survivalist as well, and probably has enough food and guns 
in his compound to survive for many years

Dan

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On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org wrote:

 One of the lists that I subscribe to Woodgas@Yahoogroups is full of people 
 who build and operate Woodgas gasifiers on vehicles. You can read more at 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodGas/join Some of the appeal is that 
 gasifiers can produce engine-grade gas from almost any type of biomass, like 
 cherry pits and walnut shells.
 
 North Korea now as well as Germany and Australia during WWII used pyrolysis 
 gasification (Woodgas) to reduce the amount of petroleum fuel needed. In 
 fact, gasoline was marketed by the Standard Oil Company as a way to use a 
 waste lightweight petroleum distillate that was being extracted between fuel 
 oil and kerosene in internal combustion engines. Prior to this, the standard 
 fuel for ICE was producer gas (Woodgas)
 
 One of the list members, Wayne Keith from Alabama has ran several pickup 
 trucks from Woodgas for years and frequently works with Auburn University 
 alternate energy program to further develop the technology.
 
 Todd Smith
 
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 day who had been in North Korea. He said that a lot of their military trucks 
 were running off wood gas generators due to the lack of gasoline and diesel.
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Max Dillon
RIP Gump

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redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Finally got into her engine. She had a good life. While taking the 
head off, found that the front stanchion had cracked at the base and 
had been spewing a bit of oil around the valve springs. Ok, minor 
setback, but Rusty would have access to fresh. Was going to have to 
trade out the wrong head bolts Tom sent anyway. Needed hex, he sent 
star. While it was open, should replace the chain tensioners. Would 
have ample time to arrive while machine shop had the head.

Lift head off and move it out into daylight to see what is what. 
Wipe up and look for where the gasket had gone bad. Yep, right 
between two and three, on three. Wear and missing a bit around the 
edge. Just enough for gases to flow into coolant. Damn. But no 
damage visible, so, ok, try to get gasket off and look around 
underneath.

Wiping up the stay coolant and oil schmutz. Looks good so far. Minor 
rust on cylinder walls of three and two. Mental note for red scruffy 
pad to take care of that. Get some light on the whole thing and start 
seeing other issues. Cylinder walls are smooth, no cross hatch at 
all. And WTF, there is some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a 
CRACK! and there looks to be some stress wear on all the cylinders 
around where the pre-chamber divot is.

POOP.

No way will I be able to swing a rebuild. SWMBA is no at all please 
that I am even tinkering with Gump. Spent the rest of the day 
stripping out all usable parts for posting on CL. Maybe I can recoup 
some of the cost.

Anybody need a viable head? I have the kit from Rusty to go with it.

clay

Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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Re: [MBZ] 123 PS pump threads

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead

1980 240D with 1981 engine


I went out to look for tap and die to clean the PS pump threads and 
the hose threads.  I thought it looked about the same as a spark plug 
(postwar to 1980) so I was thinking it may be 14mm.  Turns out it is 
5/8 NF.  Checked the measurements and pitch several times.


So, I guess that the original PS was adapted from 'Merican cars or 
'Merican hoses off 'Merican aircraft engines.   Same way the krauts 
adapted 'Merican tire measurements (5 1/2 JK 14)  Maybe they adapted 
it from a chrypsler.  I know the front wheel bearings are the same as 
old chrypslers, and the wheel  bolt

 pattern seems to be adaptable to a chrypsler product.

Interesting stuff.  What was the first MB with Power Steering?  Did 
the Adenauer have PS?




I find it easiest to start threads when the pump body
is loose too.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Canfield
Max,
  Hahahaha.  I have the same one.  Turned the spell checker off after
finding it takes less time to proofread what I write instead of fighting
with it changing names and words it does not know into something completely
different.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 8:56 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Your iphone can't spell as well a my android, you should dump it and get
one like mine (HTC Evo 4g)  ;)

 Max
 --
 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Todd,

 A former business partner was into woodgas heavily tongue point where he
corresponded regularly with a guy in one offend Nordic countries who is
considered an expert on the subject.

 He went so far as to design and build a woodgas system for his farm
tractor based on WWII designs still available in out of date literature.

 He was also a closet survivalist as well, and probably has enough food and
guns in his compound to survive for many years

 Dan

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org wrote:

 One of the lists that I subscribe to Woodgas@Yahoogroups is full of
people who build and operate Woodgas gasifiers on vehicles. You can read
more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodGas/join Some of the appeal is
that gasifiers can produce engine-grade gas from almost any type of biomass,
like cherry pits and walnut shells.

 North Korea now as well as Germany and Australia during WWII used
pyrolysis gasification (Woodgas) to reduce the amount of petroleum fuel
needed. In fact, gasoline was marketed by the Standard Oil Company as a way
to use a waste lightweight petroleum distillate that was being extracted
between fuel oil and kerosene in internal combustion engines. Prior to this,
the standard fuel for ICE was producer gas (Woodgas)

 One of the list members, Wayne Keith from Alabama has ran several pickup
trucks from Woodgas for years and frequently works with Auburn University
alternate energy program to further develop the technology.

 Todd Smith

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:16
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

 Speaking of wood gas generators, I was listening to a guy on NPR the
other day who had been in North Korea. He said that a lot of their military
trucks were running off wood gas generators due to the lack of gasoline and
diesel.

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] CL find - Where's Mike Esh?

2011-07-23 Thread Mike Esh
I am a couple of hours from there.  I am still driving my 84 300D and pushing 
40,000 miles on waste vegetable oil,  dual tank system.  The wvo never hits the 
injectors until the oil is at least 160 degrees and engine is at operating 
temperature.  The car has just over 300,000 miles on it. 
Oh, not to mention it has ice cold AC.


Michael E. Esh


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 Anybody want a solar cooked 124.133 with a piece of rear bumper missing?
 $1500 with relatively low miles.
 http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2504714478.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

2011-07-23 Thread Max Dillon
Do you use swype? I've gotten pretty fast with it, and reasonably accurate.

Max
-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

Max,
Hahahaha. I have the same one. Turned the spell checker off after
finding it takes less time to proofread what I write instead of fighting
with it changing names and words it does not know into something completely
different.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 8:56 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Your iphone can't spell as well a my android, you should dump it and get
one like mine (HTC Evo 4g)  ;)

 Max
 --
 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Todd,

 A former business partner was into woodgas heavily tongue point where he
corresponded regularly with a guy in one offend Nordic countries who is
considered an expert on the subject.

 He went so far as to design and build a woodgas system for his farm
tractor based on WWII designs still available in out of date literature.

 He was also a closet survivalist as well, and probably has enough food and
guns in his compound to survive for many years

 Dan

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org wrote:

 One of the lists that I subscribe to Woodgas@Yahoogroups is full of
people who build and operate Woodgas gasifiers on vehicles. You can read
more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodGas/join Some of the appeal is
that gasifiers can produce engine-grade gas from almost any type of biomass,
like cherry pits and walnut shells.

 North Korea now as well as Germany and Australia during WWII used
pyrolysis gasification (Woodgas) to reduce the amount of petroleum fuel
needed. In fact, gasoline was marketed by the Standard Oil Company as a way
to use a waste lightweight petroleum distillate that was being extracted
between fuel oil and kerosene in internal combustion engines. Prior to this,
the standard fuel for ICE was producer gas (Woodgas)

 One of the list members, Wayne Keith from Alabama has ran several pickup
trucks from Woodgas for years and frequently works with Auburn University
alternate energy program to further develop the technology.

 Todd Smith

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:16
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

 Speaking of wood gas generators, I was listening to a guy on NPR the
other day who had been in North Korea. He said that a lot of their military
trucks were running off wood gas generators due to the lack of gasoline and
diesel.

 Dan

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[MBZ] How bad will I mess up my a/c?

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Canfield
I have a road trip to Detroit to make with the 83 300d.  The a/c does not
work.  Everything looks intact and it had a slight amount of pressure when I
poked the shrader(sp?) valve on the low pressure side.  I would like to have
ANY a/c.  Does not have to be ice cold to help keep from sweating to
death.
  Assuming everything works as it should am I likely to damage anything with
the epoxy on r-134 adapters and a recharge of the wal-mart r-134?  I have
searched and searched for Jim's test refrigerant locally and find nothing
with isobutane, only butane and propane.
  So, if I will only damage the fittings and it will work fair on 134 then I
will go for it, if it is likely to damage my compressor or anything else I
will bring a big cooler of ice water.

Thanks, Mike
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Re: [MBZ] The ex-SnookMobile is now in Los Alamos

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
No, my use (usage?) of comprised of was incorrect, in the context of 
Wilton's challenge.  And you missed the other incorrectness.  Your all 
loosers.


--R

On 7/22/11 11:28 PM, Craig wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:36:44 -0500 Mountain Manmaontin@gmail.com
wrote:


--R wrote:

My post was comprised of as many as I could think of.

Comprise has some debate on its proper use, no?

Not that I know of.



You're use here is incorrect, no?

Actually, his use of comprise was correct. Your use of you're (a
contraction of you are, not the second person singular possesive, your),
however, was incorrect.


The grammar patrol is out and in force in okielist tonight.

AHA!  :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] CL find - Where's Mike Esh?

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas

Does it get 40mpg on waste veggie oil?

--R

On 7/22/11 10:55 PM, Mike Esh wrote:

I am a couple of hours from there.  I am still driving my 84 300D and pushing 
40,000 miles on waste vegetable oil,  dual tank system.  The wvo never hits the 
injectors until the oil is at least 160 degrees and engine is at operating 
temperature.  The car has just over 300,000 miles on it.
Oh, not to mention it has ice cold AC.


Michael E. Esh


On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net  wrote:


Anybody want a solar cooked 124.133 with a piece of rear bumper missing?
$1500 with relatively low miles.
http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2504714478.html

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Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Canfield
I am so used to the stock Android keyboard that I find the layout of the
Swype keyboard to be annoying.  I like the Swype idea, wish it would work
with the Android keyboard.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 9:54 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Do you use swype? I've gotten pretty fast with it, and reasonably
accurate.

 Max
 --
 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Max,
 Hahahaha. I have the same one. Turned the spell checker off after
 finding it takes less time to proofread what I write instead of fighting
 with it changing names and words it does not know into something
completely
 different.

 Mike
 On Jul 23, 2011 8:56 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Your iphone can't spell as well a my android, you should dump it and get
 one like mine (HTC Evo 4g)  ;)

 Max
 --
 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Todd,

 A former business partner was into woodgas heavily tongue point where he
 corresponded regularly with a guy in one offend Nordic countries who is
 considered an expert on the subject.

 He went so far as to design and build a woodgas system for his farm
 tractor based on WWII designs still available in out of date literature.

 He was also a closet survivalist as well, and probably has enough food
and
 guns in his compound to survive for many years

 Dan

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org wrote:

 One of the lists that I subscribe to Woodgas@Yahoogroups is full of
 people who build and operate Woodgas gasifiers on vehicles. You can read
 more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodGas/join Some of the appeal is
 that gasifiers can produce engine-grade gas from almost any type of
biomass,
 like cherry pits and walnut shells.

 North Korea now as well as Germany and Australia during WWII used
 pyrolysis gasification (Woodgas) to reduce the amount of petroleum fuel
 needed. In fact, gasoline was marketed by the Standard Oil Company as a
way
 to use a waste lightweight petroleum distillate that was being extracted
 between fuel oil and kerosene in internal combustion engines. Prior to
this,
 the standard fuel for ICE was producer gas (Woodgas)

 One of the list members, Wayne Keith from Alabama has ran several pickup
 trucks from Woodgas for years and frequently works with Auburn University
 alternate energy program to further develop the technology.

 Todd Smith

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:
mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:16
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

 Speaking of wood gas generators, I was listening to a guy on NPR the
 other day who had been in North Korea. He said that a lot of their
military
 trucks were running off wood gas generators due to the lack of gasoline
and
 diesel.

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] CL find - Where's Mike Esh?

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Canfield
Probably one of the rare Detroit edition models that gets such good mileage
that he has to suck out some wvo to use in the fryer at home just to keep it
from spilling on the ground after a long trip.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 Does it get 40mpg on waste veggie oil?

 --R

 On 7/22/11 10:55 PM, Mike Esh wrote:
 I am a couple of hours from there. I am still driving my 84 300D and
pushing 40,000 miles on waste vegetable oil, dual tank system. The wvo never
hits the injectors until the oil is at least 160 degrees and engine is at
operating temperature. The car has just over 300,000 miles on it.
 Oh, not to mention it has ice cold AC.


 Michael E. Esh


 On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote:

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 $1500 with relatively low miles.
 http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2504714478.html

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Re: [MBZ] How bad will I mess up my a/c?

2011-07-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Assuming everything works as it should am I likely to damage anything 
with
the epoxy on r-134 adapters and a recharge of the wal-mart r-134?  I 
have


Yes.  The refrigerant is OK, but the required oils (because R134a will
not transport mineral oil) are evil.

searched and searched for Jim's test refrigerant locally and find 
nothing

with isobutane, only butane and propane.


So I'd use that!  I actually probably have, since the cans'
contents are not always obviously marked.  The preferred stuff
is high-altitude camp fuel.  By the time I'm done, what's in
the test charge is probably 90% propane anyway.  Supposedly the
only problem with butane is its higher boiling point, there's
a minor risk it'll hit the compressor input as a liquid.  Probably
no chance, if you're actually only using it when it's hot.

So, if I will only damage the fittings and it will work fair on 134 
then I
will go for it, if it is likely to damage my compressor or anything 
else I

will bring a big cooler of ice water.


If the oils aren't working the compressor will seize.  If the
(R134a) oils _are_ working then they're hygroscopic, and immiscible
with the pre-existing mineral oil which will clog up the works.

Don't do it!

I believe one of the R12-replacements is largely R134a with
a dollop of isobutane in it to transport the old oil.  But if
you're going to put butane in anyway I'd just be sure to
'test' it first.  Maybe for a few years...

A replacement compressor was $15 at the U-Pull last time I
got one.  Nearly negligible, but the wreckage (black death)
a seizing compressorputs into the piping is not.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] How bad will I mess up my a/c?

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
There is a low-pressure cut-off switch in the system that has probably 
disabled the compressor.  On the 79 it is down on the lower left looking 
at the engine bay from the front, has a wire or two, attached to the 
hard line.  You can jump it to see if that is the cause (compressor 
should kick on with it shorted).  I don't think you want to put 134 in 
there, oil incompatiblility?


On 7/23/11 10:02 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

I have a road trip to Detroit to make with the 83 300d.  The a/c does not
work.  Everything looks intact and it had a slight amount of pressure when I
poked the shrader(sp?) valve on the low pressure side.  I would like to have
ANY a/c.  Does not have to be ice cold to help keep from sweating to
death.
   Assuming everything works as it should am I likely to damage anything with
the epoxy on r-134 adapters and a recharge of the wal-mart r-134?  I have
searched and searched for Jim's test refrigerant locally and find nothing
with isobutane, only butane and propane.
   So, if I will only damage the fittings and it will work fair on 134 then I
will go for it, if it is likely to damage my compressor or anything else I
will bring a big cooler of ice water.

Thanks, Mike
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[MBZ] Motoring pR0n for the day

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/07/video-ride-along-on-a-311-mph-motorcycle/

--R

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So you already started parting it out? Is it green with green? I have q great 
220d engine 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:06 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Finally got into her engine.  She had a good life.  While taking the head 
 off, found that the front stanchion had cracked at the base and had been 
 spewing a bit of oil around the valve springs.  Ok, minor setback, but Rusty 
 would have access to fresh. Was going to have to trade out the wrong head 
 bolts Tom sent anyway.  Needed hex, he sent star.   While it was open, should 
 replace the chain tensioners.  Would have ample time to arrive while machine 
 shop had the head.
 
 Lift head off and move it out into daylight to see what is what.   Wipe up 
 and look for where the gasket had gone bad.  Yep, right between two and 
 three, on three.  Wear and missing a bit around the edge.  Just enough for 
 gases to flow into coolant.  Damn.  But no damage visible, so, ok, try to get 
 gasket off and look around underneath.
 
 Wiping up the stay coolant and oil schmutz.  Looks good so far.  Minor rust 
 on cylinder walls of three  and two.  Mental note for red scruffy pad to take 
 care of that.  Get some light on the whole thing and start seeing other 
 issues.  Cylinder walls are smooth, no cross hatch at all.  And WTF, there is 
 some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there looks to be 
 some stress wear on all the cylinders around where the pre-chamber divot is.
 
 POOP.
 
 No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.  SWMBA is no at all please that I 
 am even tinkering with Gump.  Spent the rest of the day stripping out all 
 usable parts for posting on CL.  Maybe I can recoup some of the cost.
 
 Anybody need a viable head?  I have the kit from Rusty to go with it.
 
 clay
 
 Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
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[MBZ] Old Benz racer pR0n

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/07/nico-and-schumi-go-old-school-in-vintage-f1-cars/

--R

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Re: [MBZ] On the trailer headed to the crusher in the morning

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
As I said before I have ips that are pulled ready to go for 200 plus shipping

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

 How much for the IP? M or MW?
 
 You do know the IP is worth something, right?
 
 Walt
 
 On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 I don't know
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 Where are my 126 4-wire mirrors?
 
 --R
 
 On 7/22/11 8:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Let me first say the cars I have been crushing are from that guys place I 
 had some cars parked for a while. Those who have been to okieq know what
 In talking about. All I had left there were the ones I had already got the 
 valuable parts off
 
 So today I go out and load up a rust free 116 300sd with a good engine. 
 Bought it with a bad tranny. Got it home to get ready to crush tomorrow. 
 Somebody stole the tranny out of it. Funny.
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Frederick

Jim:

If you have a 240 piston, I need one!

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] How bad will I mess up my a/c?

2011-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Jim Cathey wrote:
Assuming everything works as it should am I likely to damage anything 
with

the epoxy on r-134 adapters and a recharge of the wal-mart r-134?  I have


Yes.  The refrigerant is OK, but the required oils (because R134a will
not transport mineral oil) are evil.



I thought PAG was evil, while PAO isn't evil but doesn't lubricate as well as 
PAG.

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that gripe at 
their men because they like cars yet they have everything they need should try 
a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to beat on women, then maybe they will 
have something to complain about

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Clay,
  Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at home
 wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or hanging
 out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby could be much,
 much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.
 
 Mike
 On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to
 redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
 for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
 the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
 Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.
 
 Clay
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
 
 some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
 looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.
 
 Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...
 
 -- Jim
 
 
 
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[MBZ] 123 sunroof drain cleanout

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
I  came to the conclusion that the sunroof drains on the 81 have been 
plugged for years.  Rust and water level lines inside confirm this. 
I have been looking for  the drains and poking around with #10 wire, 
and not found the drain exit out the back.  Now that I have the roof 
out, I'd like to get the drains open.


Is there any way to clean them bottom up?  (I think they are hidden, 
so I doubt this is possible.)


How do I find the exit holes for the drains?

On a 124, you can see them if you get the light just right.  I can't 
find them on the 123, and the book has nothing about the drains or 
cleaning the drains.


I am running the wire back along the outer edge of the sunroof 
cavity, roughly in line with the chrome slides.


TIA

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas

Kleb is gonna be sleeping in one of his knackered sleds for awhile.

--R

On 7/23/11 10:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that gripe at 
their men because they like cars yet they have everything they need should try 
a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to beat on women, then maybe they will 
have something to complain about

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[MBZ] Some dude on Cartalk

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
with a 350SDL has a clicking/clunking sound coming from between right 
rear seat and trunk only when engine is running, solenoid kind of 
noise.  The guys no nothing about the car and have no clue, but are 
going to try anyway.  They think a feed pump running from the tank to 
the injector pump is a problem.  Or some kind of doodad.


I vote for a clogged fuel tank vent?

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Fred Moir
My wife had a long look at me when I wanted another 190Dt, and then, she 
said,  Well you don't smoke, drink much, take drugs, gamble or screw 
around so it could be worse.

Faint praise.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred


On 7/23/2011 10:38 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

Kleb is gonna be sleeping in one of his knackered sleds for awhile.

--R

On 7/23/11 10:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that 
gripe at their men because they like cars yet they have everything 
they need should try a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to beat 
on women, then maybe they will have something to complain about


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[MBZ] Affordable Benzes of all types

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
go to http://www.tamiyausa.com/index.php and type Mercedes in the search 
box.  Some amazing kits!


--R

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Re: [MBZ] More stupid gumtree sellers?

2011-07-23 Thread WILTON

'Seems that you have very good, high grade crack there, too.   ;

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More stupid gumtree sellers?


Well I suppose I can stupidfy the list with this gem from our version of 
cranklist 
http://adelaide.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-cars-Mercedes-Benz-W0QQAdIdZ293160713
This joker has been trying to flog that POS for a while, you'll be happy 
to know that it is hovering for between 6K and 6.5K now, depending on the 
day, well the seller listed the 116 at 6K, got no interest and then 
re-listed it at 6.5K because it needs to go ASAP.
Oooh and you gotta love the timing chain hanging out of the M110, not a 
good look.
Perhaps I should send the seller some details in regards to car body 
removal companies.


Hendrik
who is nuts but not that much

relng...@aol.com wrote:
What??  You're going to make the list more stupid? Can it get any 
more so? Hendrik who will not be preparing the 300TE for anything..



Of course it can. Increase the posts of Craigslist ads about cars nobody 
cares about and will never buy in places no one ever visits. Absolutely 
riveting.
And I've seen where you park your cars, down on the road under the trees 
dropping crap on them. Beyond hope.


RLE
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[MBZ] 123 sunroof drain cleanout

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead

Duh!

Nevermind.  I found the drains in the front corners.

The wire goes down about 3 feet and hits a hard stop in the area of 
the hood hinge.  This may be the problem.  Should the wire go further 
and not hit a hard stop?  I think so.


Will keep working at it.

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Re: [MBZ] Some dude on Cartalk

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead

I'd vote for the exhaust not clamped in the proper position as per factory


with a 350SDL has a clicking/clunking sound coming from between 
right rear seat and trunk only when engine is running, solenoid 
kind of noise.  The guys no nothing about the car and have no clue, 
but are going to try anyway.  They think a feed pump running from 
the tank to the injector pump is a problem.  Or some kind of 
doodad.


I vote for a clogged fuel tank vent?

--R


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[MBZ] Anyone need a job?

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
Need a new job?  The Peabody Hotel in Memphis is looking for an 
assistant Duckmaster to help care for its 5 famed Mallards.  You 
would guide the four hens and one drake on their two daily walks from 
their penthouse suite to the marble fountain in the hotel lobby.  You 
would also be a concierge when not helping with the ducks.  Sounds 
like a gravy job, doesn't it?



Just Ducky!


Maybe Kleb will need it after his comment about shemales

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Re: [MBZ] Some dude on Cartalk

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's the vacuum pump 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd vote for the exhaust not clamped in the proper position as per factory
 
 
 with a 350SDL has a clicking/clunking sound coming from between right rear 
 seat and trunk only when engine is running, solenoid kind of noise.  The 
 guys no nothing about the car and have no clue, but are going to try anyway. 
  They think a feed pump running from the tank to the injector pump is a 
 problem.  Or some kind of doodad.
 
 I vote for a clogged fuel tank vent?
 
 --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Well said. If you like gump them keep her/her. You like the car/hobby and you 
have that right. Take a stance against SWMBO and you'll see that she will 
respect you more for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that gripe at 
their men because they like cars yet they have everything they need should try 
a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to beat on women, then maybe they will 
have something to complain about

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

Clay,
Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby could be much,
much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to
redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.

Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] On the trailer headed to the crusher in the morning

2011-07-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Ah, I missed that, I'll think about it..

I just can't see how you're OK scraping them...

Walt
On Jul 23, 2011 10:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 As I said before I have ips that are pulled ready to go for 200 plus
shipping

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

 How much for the IP? M or MW?

 You do know the IP is worth something, right?

 Walt

 On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
wrote:
 I don't know

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Where are my 126 4-wire mirrors?

 --R

 On 7/22/11 8:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Let me first say the cars I have been crushing are from that guys
place I had some cars parked for a while. Those who have been to okieq know
what
 In talking about. All I had left there were the ones I had already got
the valuable parts off

 So today I go out and load up a rust free 116 300sd with a good
engine. Bought it with a bad tranny. Got it home to get ready to crush
tomorrow. Somebody stole the tranny out of it. Funny.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a job?

2011-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:
Need a new job?  The Peabody Hotel in Memphis is looking for an 
assistant Duckmaster to help care for its 5 famed Mallards.  You would 
guide the four hens and one drake on their two daily walks from their 
penthouse suite to the marble fountain in the hotel lobby.  You would 
also be a concierge when not helping with the ducks.  Sounds like a 
gravy job, doesn't it?


Beats living in Chitcago anyway.
Maybe Luther, Denneal, or Dan should look into it.

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you are buying cars instead of buying food I could understand but if the man 
is taking care of everything...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Well said. If you like gump them keep her/her. You like the car/hobby and you 
 have that right. Take a stance against SWMBO and you'll see that she will 
 respect you more for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 
 Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that gripe at 
 their men because they like cars yet they have everything they need should 
 try a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to beat on women, then maybe they 
 will have something to complain about
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at home
 wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or hanging
 out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby could be much,
 much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.
 
 Mike
 On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to
 redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
 for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
 the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
 Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.
 
 Clay
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
 
 some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
 looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.
 
 Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...
 
 -- Jim
 
 
 
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[MBZ] $600 rodbender

2011-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley

http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/2506684132.html

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Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

2011-07-23 Thread OK Don
I'm using the FlexT9 input on the Evo4G - it does Swype like input, but on
the Android keyboard, and  adds voice dictation, which works surprisingly
well. It's made by Nuance - home of Dragon Naturaly Speaking.

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am so used to the stock Android keyboard that I find the layout of the
 Swype keyboard to be annoying.  I like the Swype idea, wish it would work
 with the Android keyboard.

 Mike
 On Jul 23, 2011 9:54 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  Do you use swype? I've gotten pretty fast with it, and reasonably
 accurate.
 
  Max
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  Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
 
  Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Max,
  Hahahaha. I have the same one. Turned the spell checker off after
  finding it takes less time to proofread what I write instead of fighting
  with it changing names and words it does not know into something
 completely
  different.
 
  Mike
  On Jul 23, 2011 8:56 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  Your iphone can't spell as well a my android, you should dump it and get
  one like mine (HTC Evo 4g)  ;)
 
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Re: [MBZ] schwarz/rot/dummkopf

2011-07-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I use the Motorola Droid hardware keypad, quicker than software BS.

And I can type without seeing the keyboard. :)

Walt
On Jul 23, 2011 2:31 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm using the FlexT9 input on the Evo4G - it does Swype like input, but on
 the Android keyboard, and adds voice dictation, which works surprisingly
 well. It's made by Nuance - home of Dragon Naturaly Speaking.

 On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I am so used to the stock Android keyboard that I find the layout of the
 Swype keyboard to be annoying. I like the Swype idea, wish it would work
 with the Android keyboard.

 Mike
 On Jul 23, 2011 9:54 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  Do you use swype? I've gotten pretty fast with it, and reasonably
 accurate.
 
  Max
  --
  Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
 
  Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Max,
  Hahahaha. I have the same one. Turned the spell checker off after
  finding it takes less time to proofread what I write instead of
fighting
  with it changing names and words it does not know into something
 completely
  different.
 
  Mike
  On Jul 23, 2011 8:56 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
  Your iphone can't spell as well a my android, you should dump it and
get
  one like mine (HTC Evo 4g)  ;)
 
  Max
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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread redghost

what sort of pump gremlins?

DAMN!  you tempted me.   Ok, spill... what is up with it?


Clay

BTW, dumping all the good parts from Gump onto eBay at the moment

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:50 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


I've got a 2.4 with pump gremlins if that helps you any?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:
he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the  
mood to
humor my attempts to make Gump run.  Figure I just bank this for  
another day
when I have a stupid desire for a car and I can trot out how I  
finally gave

up on Gump and she should now humor me once more.

Clay



On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:


Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine?

Walt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:


Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and  
have to

redo
the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block  
for cracks
there.  Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the  
fight

with
SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.  Best to let her
go I
can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

some crazing on top of #1.  Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there  
looks to

be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit?  Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread redghost
I did point out that the bar bill and time at strip clubs had  
decreased to near nothing since Gump arrived.  She thinks I am still  
and idiot and should use my time in the garden or other girl type  
behaviour.  Not my idea of fun.  She is even making my beloved hens  
leave home, since the kids are worthless at having pets and my  
cholesterol is so bad my MD called her to complain.  Best damn fresh  
eggs in the world!


clay

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Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:


Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at  
home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or  
hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby could  
be much,

much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have  
to

redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

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[MBZ] Drain Front Brake Resovoir

2011-07-23 Thread alanduff
Looking at the brake fluid resovoir on the 83 300D. It is a Girling. I've 
suctioned all the fluid out from under the cap but the front section is 
seperate and still full of fluid. Starting to take off the front calipers to 
rebuild them when my Rusty parts get here. 

How do I get the fluid out of that sectiion? It looks dark like old fluid. I 
expect it will drain out when the calipers are removed, but don't know how I 
will get fluid back it in. Doesn't look like any connection to the rear 
compartment.  I don't remember seeing one like this before.

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN


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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread redghost
Dunkel Grun, black interior that I used dupli-color to make more cream  
than bamboo.


Shipping cost for engine... well, total for package?

you are aware Gump is your fault.  Had you not posted that thing six  
years ago, I would not have bid and won.   It must be your revenge for  
buying the POS SDL.


clay

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Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

So you already started parting it out? Is it green with green? I  
have q great 220d engine


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:06 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Finally got into her engine.  She had a good life.  While taking  
the head off, found that the front stanchion had cracked at the  
base and had been spewing a bit of oil around the valve springs.   
Ok, minor setback, but Rusty would have access to fresh. Was going  
to have to trade out the wrong head bolts Tom sent anyway.  Needed  
hex, he sent star.   While it was open, should replace the chain  
tensioners.  Would have ample time to arrive while machine shop had  
the head.


Lift head off and move it out into daylight to see what is what.
Wipe up and look for where the gasket had gone bad.  Yep, right  
between two and three, on three.  Wear and missing a bit around the  
edge.  Just enough for gases to flow into coolant.  Damn.  But no  
damage visible, so, ok, try to get gasket off and look around  
underneath.


Wiping up the stay coolant and oil schmutz.  Looks good so far.   
Minor rust on cylinder walls of three  and two.  Mental note for  
red scruffy pad to take care of that.  Get some light on the whole  
thing and start seeing other issues.  Cylinder walls are smooth, no  
cross hatch at all.  And WTF, there is some crazing on top of #1.   
Crap!  That is a CRACK!  and there looks to be some stress wear on  
all the cylinders around where the pre-chamber divot is.


POOP.

No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.  SWMBA is no at all  
please that I am even tinkering with Gump.  Spent the rest of the  
day stripping out all usable parts for posting on CL.  Maybe I can  
recoup some of the cost.


Anybody need a viable head?  I have the kit from Rusty to go with it.

clay

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[MBZ] OT: Largest Diesel engine in the world

2011-07-23 Thread OK Don


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Re: [MBZ] CL find - Where's Mike Esh?

2011-07-23 Thread Hendrik Fay
The problem with cars like this that you know damn well that it has been 
neglected, both cosmetically and mechanically.
However this is not always the case, my TE had been neglected (used as a 
family truck) but was serviced by someone who knew what they where 
doing. This is how I like to buy cars and is better than a car that has 
had a million coatings of wax but only one oil change.
Obviously Roger would frown upon the condition my S124 is in, inside and 
out but for my purposes it is perfect (apart from the colour).
I know people with fancy cars and they forbid their kids from eating or 
drinking in the car and I reckon they love their car more than their kids.


Hendrik
who has attached some pix of the TE (which has just clocked over 400K 
klicks) to back up Rogers claim about me parking in the great Australian 
garage


Mitch Haley wrote:

Anybody want a solar cooked 124.133 with a piece of rear bumper missing?
$1500 with relatively low miles.
http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2504714478.html



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[MBZ] One of my crush victims

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


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[MBZ] MBCA and Pacifica Car Shows

2011-07-23 Thread Gerry Archer
A local retired commercial fisherman has the rustiest MB inside and 
outside I've ever seen.
Asked him why he parked it with one wheel up on the concrete wheel stop
in the parking space, and he said the driver side door wouldn't close otherwise.
It ran good and didn't have many miles on it.
He said it got rusty because he sometimes threw his wet nets on the seats, in 
the
trunk, and tied down on the roof.

This would be a good MB to enter in the MBCA Car Show.  It should
make it all the way to the West Coast with a little help from members along the 
way.
After the show, someone out there could park it in their backyard and then 
enter it in the
Pacifica Rusty Car Contest. (See attached.) which is probably the only contest
that MB has never won.
Gerry

Can I bring my wvo burning 300d and my neighbors $450 td?
Betting they would be the talk of the club..hahaha
Mike

On Jul 21, 2011 9:33 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good idea!
 We can have an indoor SeattleQ and then go to the MBCA car show at
 the Nile Country Club. I can enter the 80 240D, with the damaged
 paint and ratty interior. Should be fun!
 Roger! wanna host?

I may have Gump back on the road by then. Should enter her for most
cinderella like auto,
clay
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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Torn vac governor diaphragm from what I can tell. It SEVERLY overfuels, and
when you open the butterfly, it starts reving for the moon.

Walt
On Jul 23, 2011 3:09 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 what sort of pump gremlins?

 DAMN! you tempted me. Ok, spill... what is up with it?


 Clay

 BTW, dumping all the good parts from Gump onto eBay at the moment

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:50 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:

 I've got a 2.4 with pump gremlins if that helps you any?

 Walt

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 wrote:
 he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the
 mood to
 humor my attempts to make Gump run. Figure I just bank this for
 another day
 when I have a stupid desire for a car and I can trot out how I
 finally gave
 up on Gump and she should now humor me once more.

 Clay



 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:

 Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine?

 Walt

 On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and
 have to
 redo
 the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
 for cracks
 there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the
 fight
 with
 SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump. Best to let her
 go I
 can always find another wife anyway.

 Clay

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

 some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
 looks to
 be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.

 Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

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Re: [MBZ] On the trailer headed to the crusher in the morning

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Because I dont want to mess with pulling them.  If I were pulling 
the engines out then I would pull them and keep them


On 7/23/2011 11:17 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:

Ah, I missed that, I'll think about it..

I just can't see how you're OK scraping them...

Walt
On Jul 23, 2011 10:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net  wrote:

As I said before I have ips that are pulled ready to go for 200 plus

shipping

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On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com  wrote:


How much for the IP? M or MW?

You do know the IP is worth something, right?

Walt

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net

wrote:

I don't know

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Rich Thomas

richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

Where are my 126 4-wire mirrors?

--R

On 7/22/11 8:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Let me first say the cars I have been crushing are from that guys

place I had some cars parked for a while. Those who have been to okieq know
what

In talking about. All I had left there were the ones I had already got

the valuable parts off

So today I go out and load up a rust free 116 300sd with a good

engine. Bought it with a bad tranny. Got it home to get ready to crush
tomorrow. Somebody stole the tranny out of it. Funny.

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Re: [MBZ] Drain Front Brake Resovoir

2011-07-23 Thread OK Don
There's a port between the two sections - when the front one gets close to
full it will start flowing into the rear section.

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:15 PM, aland...@knology.net wrote:

 Looking at the brake fluid resovoir on the 83 300D. It is a Girling. I've
 suctioned all the fluid out from under the cap but the front section is
 seperate and still full of fluid. Starting to take off the front calipers to
 rebuild them when my Rusty parts get here.

 How do I get the fluid out of that sectiion? It looks dark like old fluid.
 I expect it will drain out when the calipers are removed, but don't know how
 I will get fluid back it in. Doesn't look like any connection to the rear
 compartment.  I don't remember seeing one like this before.

 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Largest Diesel engine in the world

2011-07-23 Thread Craig
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:16:19 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://gizmodo.com/5822447/the-worlds-largest-diesel-engine-powers-way-more-than-the-worlds-largest-container-ship

It's the same one posted back in 2003, but it's nice to see it again, and
to see the finished product being removed from the assembly room.

The article says, it ... injects 6.5 ounces of diesel in every piston
for every cycle.

Since it's a two-stroke engine, that's 6.5 ounces per piston per
revolution.

Since it has 12 cylinders, that' 78 ounces per revolution.

Since it runs 102 revolutions/minute, that's 7956 ounces per minute
(which is 62.15625 gallons/minute).

At that rate, it's 477,360 gallons/hour.

The article says it produces 109,000 HP, which is 3.597e+09 ft-lb/min.
That is also 4,622,387.7 BTU/min.

Since one gallon of diesel has about 120,000 BTU, 62.15625 gallons of
diesel has about 7,458,750 BTU.

Since the input is 7,458,750 BTU/min and the output is
4,622,387.7 BTU/min, the efficiency is 61.97%.

The efficiency seems high, but the fuel consumption seems astronomical.
Where do the put all the fuel? At 31 knots, a trip of 3100 nautical miles
will take 100 hours, for a total fuel consumption of 47,736,000 gallons.
At 7.48 gallons per cubic foot, the fuel tank would have to be 6,381,375
cubic feet. If it were a cube, that would be 185.48 feet on a side.

Well, OK, for a ship that's 1300 feet long, that's not too much

But still!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Bio who?

2011-07-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
I just thought of something else.  One of my 300TD wagons has a trap
oxidizer.  Would that make it more sensitive to nonconventional fuel?

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:05 AM, ernest breakfield 
erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:

 safest answer? none.

if you live where it's particularly hot and regularly do a lot of
 long-distance driving you might get away with it for a while without adding
 your car to the pile of cars that have been destroyed by people doing
 exactly that.


 cheers!
 e



 On 22/Jul/11 14:32, andrew strasfogel wrote:

 Ok - next question.  How many gallons of filtered WVO can I add to the10
 gallons of diesel fuel that is currently in the tank without damaging
 anything?  Tank capacity is nominally 18.6 gallons.

 On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com**
 wrote:

  Andrew,
  If you make longer trips a wvo conversion would be good for you as there
 are folks advertising already filtered wvo on craigslist in the VA area
 for
 around $2 per gallon.  Wvo is no good for short trips.  Wvo is not
 biodiesel
 until it is processed.

 Mike
  On Jul 22, 2011 4:52 PM, andrew 
 strasfogelastrasfogel@gmail.**comastrasfo...@gmail.com
 
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Re: [MBZ] Drain Front Brake Resovoir

2011-07-23 Thread Craig
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:15:39 -0400 aland...@knology.net wrote:

 Looking at the brake fluid resovoir on the 83 300D. It is a Girling.
 I've suctioned all the fluid out from under the cap but the front
 section is seperate and still full of fluid. Starting to take off the
 front calipers to rebuild them when my Rusty parts get here. 
 
 How do I get the fluid out of that sectiion? It looks dark like old
 fluid. I expect it will drain out when the calipers are removed, but
 don't know how I will get fluid back it in. Doesn't look like any
 connection to the rear compartment.  I don't remember seeing one like
 this before.

Usually, pouring fluid in the hole under the cap fills the front section
first, then the rear section. (All the fluid is added through the hole
under the cap.)

Perhaps the nylon is stained and the section is really empty?


Craig 

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a job?

2011-07-23 Thread WILTON

Don't forget poop scooping.  ;

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a job?



Dieselhead wrote:
Need a new job?  The Peabody Hotel in Memphis is looking for an assistant 
Duckmaster to help care for its 5 famed Mallards.  You would guide the 
four hens and one drake on their two daily walks from their penthouse 
suite to the marble fountain in the hotel lobby.  You would also be a 
concierge when not helping with the ducks.  Sounds like a gravy job, 
doesn't it?


Beats living in Chitcago anyway.
Maybe Luther, Denneal, or Dan should look into it.

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Re: [MBZ] $600 rodbender

2011-07-23 Thread WILTON

A pity.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 2:30 PM
Subject: [MBZ] $600 rodbender



http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/2506684132.html

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
Tell the MD to read up.  (S)He was indoctrinated 30 years ago with 
incomplete (or false) information.  Eggs don't raise your cholesterol.


Real culprits are hydrogenated veg oils (or hydrogenated animal 
oils), trans fats and other unnatural foods.  (margerine)


http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_releases/egg-nutrition (2006)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-katz-md/usda-eggs-cholesterol_b_820497.html 
(2011)  It is really a Yale study, not something from the blithering 
ijits.


From WebMD, regarding the same Yale study:
Eggs in moderation can be part of a heart-healthy diet, says David 
Katz, MD, MPH, director and founder of the Yale University Prevention 
Research Center in Derby, Conn.
In a study published in 2010 in Nutrition Journal, Katz and his 
colleagues found that moderate egg intake didn't adversely affect 
blood cholesterol in men and women with high cholesterol (although 
egg substitutes improved it). The study was funded by the CDC and the 
Egg Nutrition Center, funded by the American Egg Board, an industry 
group.
Moderate egg consumption doesn't appear to be linked to an increased 
cardiac risk, Katz and his colleagues conclude, although further 
testing is needed on people with established heart disease to 
clarify the place of eggs in a judicious and heart-healthy diet.
When people are told to avoid or eliminate eggs from their diet, Katz 
says they might substitute unhealthy foods. When we tell people not 
to eat eggs, what are they eating instead? He suspects they may 
substitute a Danish, for instance, for their breakfast eggs.

www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/news/20110207/less-cholesterol-in-eggs-usda-says

http://www.iowaegg.org/egg_nutrition/eggs_come_full_circle.asp



It is parallel/analogous to the scare 30 years ago that drinking a 
cup of coffee would kill you.  Now there is evidence of some benefits 
of coffee drinking to offset the potential hazards of caffiene.  So 
it is a net zero, or maybe even a little positive benefit.


(no I don't drink coffee or sell coffee)


I did point out that the bar bill and time at strip clubs had 
decreased to near nothing since Gump arrived.  She thinks I am still 
and idiot and should use my time in the garden or other girl type 
behaviour.  Not my idea of fun.  She is even making my beloved hens 
leave home, since the kids are worthless at having pets and my 
cholesterol is so bad my MD called her to complain.  Best damn fresh 
eggs in the world!


clay

Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:


Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on?  Seems your hobby could be much,
much worse.  Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to
redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.


Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] MBCA and Pacifica Car Shows

2011-07-23 Thread LWB250
I lived just south of there in Montara. Rustbuckets abound due to the proximity 
of the ocean and the heavy fog.

Beautiful place, however.

Dan



From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: undisclosed-recipi...@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 4:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] MBCA and Pacifica Car Shows

A local retired commercial fisherman has the rustiest MB inside and 
outside I've ever seen.
Asked him why he parked it with one wheel up on the concrete wheel stop
in the parking space, and he said the driver side door wouldn't close otherwise.
It ran good and didn't have many miles on it.
He said it got rusty because he sometimes threw his wet nets on the seats, in 
the
trunk, and tied down on the roof.

This would be a good MB to enter in the MBCA Car Show.  It should
make it all the way to the West Coast with a little help from members along the 
way.
After the show, someone out there could park it in their backyard and then 
enter it in the
Pacifica Rusty Car Contest. (See attached.) which is probably the only contest
that MB has never won.
Gerry

Can I bring my wvo burning 300d and my neighbors $450 td?
Betting they would be the talk of the club..hahaha
Mike

On Jul 21, 2011 9:33 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good idea!
 We can have an indoor SeattleQ and then go to the MBCA car show at
 the Nile Country Club. I can enter the 80 240D, with the damaged
 paint and ratty interior. Should be fun!
 Roger! wanna host?

I may have Gump back on the road by then. Should enter her for most
cinderella like auto,
clay
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a job?

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
Goes with every JOB, either literally or figuratively.  It is an 
integral part of running your own business.




Don't forget poop scooping.  ;

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a job?


Dieselhead wrote:
Need a new job?  The Peabody Hotel in Memphis is looking for an 
assistant Duckmaster to help care for its 5 famed Mallards.  You 
would guide the four hens and one drake on their two daily walks 
from their penthouse suite to the marble fountain in the hotel 
lobby.  You would also be a concierge when not helping with the 
ducks.  Sounds like a gravy job, doesn't it?


Beats living in Chitcago anyway.
Maybe Luther, Denneal, or Dan should look into it.


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Re: [MBZ] Drain Front Brake Resovoir

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
it will drain when you open the (rear) bleeders.   It is set up to 
hold fluid as long as possible for the front brakes, as they do 
70-80% of the stopping.  In theory that is meant to get you safely to 
someplace for fluid/repairs when the rear brakes fail.


so, the front section fill first, then the rear section will fill.

You can flush out some of the black stuff by flushing with DOT4 fluid.

It is also a good time to consider a switch to DOT5.  Keep in mind 
that DOT4 and DOT 5 don't mix.  If you switch, you need to flush with 
DOT 5, and that takes most of a quart to flush until no more DOT4 (or 
Dot 3) comes out.




Looking at the brake fluid resovoir on the 83 300D. It is a Girling. 
I've suctioned all the fluid out from under the cap but the front 
section is seperate and still full of fluid. Starting to take off 
the front calipers to rebuild them when my Rusty parts get here.


How do I get the fluid out of that sectiion? It looks dark like old 
fluid. I expect it will drain out when the calipers are removed, but 
don't know how I will get fluid back it in. Doesn't look like any 
connection to the rear compartment.  I don't remember seeing one 
like this before.


Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN


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Re: [MBZ] Some dude on Cartalk

2011-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote:
 It's the vacuum pump

Is that located behind the back seat?
I was thinking fuel door vacuum operator with leak assuming similar
vac door operators as W123.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Bob Rentfro
RIP Gump. One of the last named cars.

Bob R
On Jul 23, 2011 1:12 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tell the MD to read up. (S)He was indoctrinated 30 years ago with
 incomplete (or false) information. Eggs don't raise your cholesterol.

 Real culprits are hydrogenated veg oils (or hydrogenated animal
 oils), trans fats and other unnatural foods. (margerine)

 http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_releases/egg-nutrition (2006)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-katz-md/usda-eggs-cholesterol_b_820497.html
 (2011) It is really a Yale study, not something from the blithering
 ijits.

 From WebMD, regarding the same Yale study:
 Eggs in moderation can be part of a heart-healthy diet, says David
 Katz, MD, MPH, director and founder of the Yale University Prevention
 Research Center in Derby, Conn.
 In a study published in 2010 in Nutrition Journal, Katz and his
 colleagues found that moderate egg intake didn't adversely affect
 blood cholesterol in men and women with high cholesterol (although
 egg substitutes improved it). The study was funded by the CDC and the
 Egg Nutrition Center, funded by the American Egg Board, an industry
 group.
 Moderate egg consumption doesn't appear to be linked to an increased
 cardiac risk, Katz and his colleagues conclude, although further
 testing is needed on people with established heart disease to
 clarify the place of eggs in a judicious and heart-healthy diet.
 When people are told to avoid or eliminate eggs from their diet, Katz
 says they might substitute unhealthy foods. When we tell people not
 to eat eggs, what are they eating instead? He suspects they may
 substitute a Danish, for instance, for their breakfast eggs.

www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/news/20110207/less-cholesterol-in-eggs-usda-says

 http://www.iowaegg.org/egg_nutrition/eggs_come_full_circle.asp



 It is parallel/analogous to the scare 30 years ago that drinking a
 cup of coffee would kill you. Now there is evidence of some benefits
 of coffee drinking to offset the potential hazards of caffiene. So
 it is a net zero, or maybe even a little positive benefit.

 (no I don't drink coffee or sell coffee)


I did point out that the bar bill and time at strip clubs had
decreased to near nothing since Gump arrived. She thinks I am still
and idiot and should use my time in the garden or other girl type
behaviour. Not my idea of fun. She is even making my beloved hens
leave home, since the kids are worthless at having pets and my
cholesterol is so bad my MD called her to complain. Best damn fresh
eggs in the world!

clay

Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at home
wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or
hanging
out at the bar with the guys tying one on? Seems your hobby could be
much,
much worse. Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to
redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

Clay

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.

Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Largest Diesel engine in the world

2011-07-23 Thread Bob Rentfro
That post reads like one of the math problems on the exams I give out at the
old nuke plant.

Bob R
On Jul 23, 2011 12:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:16:19 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:


http://gizmodo.com/5822447/the-worlds-largest-diesel-engine-powers-way-more-than-the-worlds-largest-container-ship

 It's the same one posted back in 2003, but it's nice to see it again, and
 to see the finished product being removed from the assembly room.

 The article says, it ... injects 6.5 ounces of diesel in every piston
 for every cycle.

 Since it's a two-stroke engine, that's 6.5 ounces per piston per
 revolution.

 Since it has 12 cylinders, that' 78 ounces per revolution.

 Since it runs 102 revolutions/minute, that's 7956 ounces per minute
 (which is 62.15625 gallons/minute).

 At that rate, it's 477,360 gallons/hour.

 The article says it produces 109,000 HP, which is 3.597e+09 ft-lb/min.
 That is also 4,622,387.7 BTU/min.

 Since one gallon of diesel has about 120,000 BTU, 62.15625 gallons of
 diesel has about 7,458,750 BTU.

 Since the input is 7,458,750 BTU/min and the output is
 4,622,387.7 BTU/min, the efficiency is 61.97%.

 The efficiency seems high, but the fuel consumption seems astronomical.
 Where do the put all the fuel? At 31 knots, a trip of 3100 nautical miles
 will take 100 hours, for a total fuel consumption of 47,736,000 gallons.
 At 7.48 gallons per cubic foot, the fuel tank would have to be 6,381,375
 cubic feet. If it were a cube, that would be 185.48 feet on a side.

 Well, OK, for a ship that's 1300 feet long, that's not too much

 But still!


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Drain Front Brake Resovoir

2011-07-23 Thread Fmiser
 aland...@knology.net wrote:

 How do I get the fluid out of that sectiion? It looks dark
 like old fluid. I expect it will drain out when the calipers
 are removed, but don't know how I will get fluid back it in.
 Doesn't look like any connection to the rear compartment.  I
 don't remember seeing one like this before.

Pull the tank off and let it drain out the bottom hole.

Then dump all sorts of solvents in there to try to clean out the
crude.  I never did find one that really worked well.  I tried
acetone, denatured alcohol, water and soap, brake fluid, ether,
and probably other stuff.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Largest Diesel engine in the world

2011-07-23 Thread Fmiser
 Craig wrote:

 The article says, it ... injects 6.5 ounces of diesel in
 every piston for every cycle.

 snip 

 Since the input is 7,458,750 BTU/min and the output is
 4,622,387.7 BTU/min, the efficiency is 61.97%.

I have no answers - but I dearly love seeing others chase the
math rabbit like that!  hehe.  Most folks I know roll their eyes
at me when I do that sort of thing...

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote:
 Tell the MD to read up.  (S)He was indoctrinated 30 years ago with
 incomplete (or false) information.  Eggs don't raise your cholesterol.

Listen to People's Pharmacy radio show July 23, 2011:
http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2011/07/23/786-cholesterol-controversy/

I remember in 1974 begin of my life in the 'free market' slavery
market - I asked the food company biologist about the egg scare.  He
was an old dude and told me that eggs are balanced relative to
cholesterol.  Plus, you are raising those chix in a stress free
environs and much better food than they receive in the high stress,
high output environ/food at an egg farm.  I picked eggs at an egg
pharm for years one day per week.  Yuck!  Purely disgusting in early
'70's - probably much worse today.  Eggs are delicious when the chix
are treated decently like yours are.  Fuggedabout losing the chix -
keep'em.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Bio who?

2011-07-23 Thread ernest breakfield
it might depend on what you mean by non-conventional fuel, but i can 
tell you that the ~75K+ miles i have on almost exclusively B99-B100 has 
been in an '85 300D California model. (this car went through at least 2 
open campaigns with Mercedes to replace the original Particulate Trap 
with something else, then replace that with something else again,... but 
that last one was back at ~121K miles, just before it's life on BioD 
started.)


the issues related to modern vehicles not doing well on BioD is 
related to the Late Post-Injection systems, not so much the Particulate 
Trap itself. keep in mind that there are little-to-no particulates from 
BioD; my left rear bumper stays almost perfectly clean (unlike when 
running #2!).



cheers!
e


On 23/Jul/11 12:53, andrew strasfogel wrote:

I just thought of something else.  One of my 300TD wagons has a trap
oxidizer.  Would that make it more sensitive to nonconventional fuel?

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:05 AM, ernest breakfield
erne...@backyardengineering.org  wrote:


safest answer? none.

if you live where it's particularly hot and regularly do a lot of
long-distance driving you might get away with it for a while without adding
your car to the pile of cars that have been destroyed by people doing
exactly that.


cheers!
e



On 22/Jul/11 14:32, andrew strasfogel wrote:


Ok - next question.  How many gallons of filtered WVO can I add to the10
gallons of diesel fuel that is currently in the tank without damaging
anything?  Tank capacity is nominally 18.6 gallons.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com**
wrote:

  Andrew,

  If you make longer trips a wvo conversion would be good for you as there
are folks advertising already filtered wvo on craigslist in the VA area
for
around $2 per gallon.  Wvo is no good for short trips.  Wvo is not
biodiesel
until it is processed.

Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a job?

2011-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote:
 Beats living in Chitcago anyway.
 Maybe Luther, Denneal, or Dan should look into it.

You got that correct.
They probably want 4 years experience in duck concierge, plus they
don't want an old guy.
I'm coming along on my 6-foot deep hole.
mao - no unemployment for me, uninsured, getting psychee this is the end

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Re: [MBZ] The ex-SnookMobile is now in Los Alamos

2011-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote:
 Actually, his use of comprise was correct. Your use of you're (a
 contraction of you are, not the second person singular possesive, your),
 however, was incorrect.

My use was intentional.
The whole comprises the parts is the difficulty most seem to mistake.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] $600 rodbender

2011-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:

A pity.


You could spend the next year or so restoring it to new, and then you'd have a 
pair. Both black, right?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The ex-SnookMobile is now in Los Alamos

2011-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
 No, my use (usage?) of comprised of was incorrect, in the context of
 Wilton's challenge.  And you missed the other incorrectness.  Your all
 loosers.

 My post was comprised of as many as I could think of.

I didn't loose on detecting some mis-use, eh?
I think you had improper syntax - past tense is not necessary... eh?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Drain Front Brake Resovoir

2011-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:

It is also a good time to consider a switch to DOT5.  Keep in mind that 
DOT4 and DOT 5 don't mix.  If you switch, you need to flush with DOT 5, 
and that takes most of a quart to flush until no more DOT4 (or Dot 3) 
comes out.


What do they call the stuff that meets DOT5 temp specs but isn't silicone, 5.1 
or something like that? If I wanted to go beyond DOT4, that's what I'd use. I 
think the old Valvoline Synpower was at or very close to that level. I still 
can't believe they quit making that stuff, it was the best brake fluid you could 
find on the shelf at Walmart or box store flaps.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] Anybody around St louis?

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Driving to Maine next week have a car I want to pickup on the way want to see 
if somebody has room for car on a car trailer or me to pick back up on the way 
back home

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody around St louis?

2011-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote:
 Driving to Maine next week have a car I want to pickup on the way want to see 
 if somebody has room for car on a car trailer or me to pick back up on the 
 way back home


Isn't Savage still in the area?
He just posted this past week for the first time in a lng time.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] CL find - Where's Mike Esh?

2011-07-23 Thread Gerry Archer
Seems like Marshalls Italian tuneups might burn the carbon out of engines 
that have been gunked up with WVO?
Gerry

From: Mike Esh michael...@me.com
I am a couple of hours from there.  I am still driving my 84 300D and pushing 
40,000 miles on waste vegetable oil,  dual tank system.  The wvo never hits 
the injectors until the oil is at least 160 degrees and engine is at operating 
temperature.  The car has just over 300,000 miles on it. 
 Oh, not to mention it has ice cold AC.
 Michael E. Esh
 
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 Anybody want a solar cooked 124.133 with a piece of rear bumper missing?
 $1500 with relatively low miles.
 http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2504714478.html
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody around St louis?

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh yea savage you still around?

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 Driving to Maine next week have a car I want to pickup on the way want to 
 see if somebody has room for car on a car trailer or me to pick back up on 
 the way back home
 
 
 Isn't Savage still in the area?
 He just posted this past week for the first time in a lng time.
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Re: [MBZ] 123 PS pump threads

2011-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
Well, some light was shed today on the uncooperative threads.  I used 
the die (5/8 NF - 18) on the threads of the tubing nut on the loose 
hose.  After a little difficulty starting the die, it went on and 
cleaned right up.  Took off most of the cad plating, but no big deal.


I tried the die on the nut on the hose on the car, and could not get 
it to start straight.  If I could chuck it in a drill press, with the 
die flat on the table, I could probably get it started straight.  But 
because it is on the high pressure hose, there is no way to do that. 
A vice to clamp it and a thread tap machine would work, but I don't 
have access to that either.  Probably will just swap hoses.


So, I tried running the tap in the pump thread.  Seemed like it would 
not start, so I tried turning it backwards a bit.  This turned out 
what looked like a broken off thread inside the pump.


It turned out that it was a helicoil.  I tried starting the tap in 
the helicoil, and can't get it started.  It started raining a lot and 
got real dark so I quit again.


I think I will probably swap the PS pumps, and use the loose hose. 
But when I get a day with good daylight, I may try to straighten out 
the helicoil and tap again.




1980 240D with 1981 engine


I went out to look for tap and die to clean the PS pump threads and 
the hose threads.  I thought it looked about the same as a spark plug 
(postwar to 1980) so I was thinking it may be 14mm.  Turns out it is 
5/8 NF.  Checked the measurements and pitch several times.


So, I guess that the original PS was adapted from 'Merican cars or 
'Merican hoses off 'Merican aircraft engines.   Same way the krauts 
adapted 'Merican tire measurements (5 1/2 JK 14)  Maybe they adapted 
it from a chrypsler.  I know the front wheel bearings are the same as 
old chrypslers, and the wheel  bolt

 pattern seems to be adaptable to a chrypsler product.

Interesting stuff.  What was the first MB with Power Steering?  Did 
the Adenauer have PS?




I find it easiest to start threads when the pump body
is loose too.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] This guy is on crack

2011-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/2482516357.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Largest Diesel engine in the world

2011-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Bob Rentfro wrote:


The efficiency seems high, but the fuel consumption seems astronomical.
Where do the put all the fuel? At 31 knots, a trip of 3100 nautical miles
will take 100 hours, for a total fuel consumption of 47,736,000 gallons.
At 7.48 gallons per cubic foot, the fuel tank would have to be 6,381,375
cubic feet. If it were a cube, that would be 185.48 feet on a side.



Panamax dry bulk ships have daily operating costs around $4,000, according to 
the quarterly earnings report for Safe Bulkers released earlier this week. Their 
fleet average was a little over $4k a day for 15 Panamax ships and one Capesize 
ship. Their Capesize is 292 meters, with DWT (carrying capacity) of 178,100 
metric tons, their Panamax ships can carry 60,000 to 95,000 tons. It's hard to 
imagine any ship burning a million gallons a day. The ship described in the link 
is big, it sounds like it has a dry weight similar to the carrying capacity of 
SB's Kanaris.


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Re: [MBZ] CL find - Where's Mike Esh?

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Canfield
Sure does.  At least any built up carbon deposits.  My friends td was a pig
until I told him to give it an Italian tuneup, runs awesome now.  If my 300d
gets a bit sluggish I just run it harder.  Problem solved.   ;-)

Mike
Who misses Dr. Booth and his contributions to the MBZ community.
On Jul 23, 2011 5:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Seems like Marshalls Italian tuneups might burn the carbon out of
engines that have been gunked up with WVO?
 Gerry

 From: Mike Esh michael...@me.com
I am a couple of hours from there. I am still driving my 84 300D and
pushing 40,000 miles on waste vegetable oil, dual tank system. The wvo never
hits the injectors until the oil is at least 160 degrees and engine is at
operating temperature. The car has just over 300,000 miles on it.
 Oh, not to mention it has ice cold AC.
 Michael E. Esh


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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Canfield
Clay,
  I suggest spending time at a friends house while telling the Warden you
are at the strip club.  I don't know your Mrs. but it sure sounds like she
needs a wakeup call from the way you say she owns you.

Mike
On Jul 23, 2011 3:12 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 I did point out that the bar bill and time at strip clubs had
 decreased to near nothing since Gump arrived. She thinks I am still
 and idiot and should use my time in the garden or other girl type
 behaviour. Not my idea of fun. She is even making my beloved hens
 leave home, since the kids are worthless at having pets and my
 cholesterol is so bad my MD called her to complain. Best damn fresh
 eggs in the world!

 clay

 Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
 Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
 POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




 On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

 Clay,
 Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at
 home
 wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or
 hanging
 out at the bar with the guys tying one on? Seems your hobby could
 be much,
 much worse. Some ladies just need to come to realize that.

 Mike
 On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have
 to
 redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block
 for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have
 the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump.
 Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway.

 Clay

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

 some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there
 looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild.

 Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods...

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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

2011-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas

Some crackhead might buy it

--R

On 7/23/11 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/2482516357.html

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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

2011-07-23 Thread Craig
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:45:14 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 
 http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/2482516357.html

Almost twice as many miles as ours and $1250 more?

And, power telescopic wheel,? What's that?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Largest Diesel engine in the world

2011-07-23 Thread Craig
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:41:18 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Craig wrote:
 
  The article says, it ... injects 6.5 ounces of diesel in
  every piston for every cycle.
 
  snip 
 
  Since the input is 7,458,750 BTU/min and the output is
  4,622,387.7 BTU/min, the efficiency is 61.97%.
 
 I have no answers - but I dearly love seeing others chase the
 math rabbit like that!  hehe.

No rabbit hole too small


 Most folks I know roll their eyes at me when I do that sort of thing...

I know the feeling. :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Largest Diesel engine in the world

2011-07-23 Thread Craig
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:51:02 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

I made some mistakes, see below:

 On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:16:19 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  http://gizmodo.com/5822447/the-worlds-largest-diesel-engine-powers-way-more-than-the-worlds-largest-container-ship
 
 It's the same one posted back in 2003, but it's nice to see it again,
 and to see the finished product being removed from the assembly room.
 
 The article says, it ... injects 6.5 ounces of diesel in every piston
 for every cycle.
 
 Since it's a two-stroke engine, that's 6.5 ounces per piston per
 revolution.
 
 Since it has 12 cylinders, that's 78 ounces per revolution.
 
 Since it runs 102 revolutions/minute, that's 7956 ounces per minute
 (which is 62.15625 gallons/minute).

So far so good. :-)


 At that rate, it's 477,360 gallons/hour.

It's 477,360 OUNCES/hour, which is 3729.375 gallons/hour, or 89,505
gallons/day. 


 The article says it produces 109,000 HP, which is 3.597e+09 ft-lb/min.
 That is also 4,622,387.7 BTU/min.
 
 Since one gallon of diesel has about 120,000 BTU, 62.15625 gallons of
 diesel has about 7,458,750 BTU.
 
 Since the input is 7,458,750 BTU/min and the output is
 4,622,387.7 BTU/min, the efficiency is 61.97%.

If you change to bunker oil at 140,000 BTU/gallon, the efficiency is only
53.12%, still high.


 The efficiency seems high, but the fuel consumption seems astronomical.
 Where do they put all the fuel? At 31 knots, a trip of 3100 nautical
 miles will take 100 hours, for a total fuel consumption of 47,736,000
 gallons.

At 3729.375 gallons/hour, the total fuel consumption is 372,937.5 gallons.


 At 7.48 gallons per cubic foot, the fuel tank would have to be
 6,381,375 cubic feet. If it were a cube, that would be 185.48 feet on a
 side.

The fuel tank would then be 49858 cubic feet, a cube 36.81 feet on a side.


Boy, one little mistake will throw the whole thing off!

Reminds me of my high school calculus teacher who had us work out test
problems on the front sides of our pages of paper and then fold the test
in half vertically so the back side of the last page was showing and then
write our answers there. That was all he looked at when grading.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Fmiser
 Bob Rentfro wrote:

 RIP Gump. One of the last named cars.

??  

I have quite a few.  Every one of them is named.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Craig
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:33:06 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Bob Rentfro wrote:
 
  RIP Gump. One of the last named cars.
 
 ??  
 
 I have quite a few.  Every one of them is named.

I do as well.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody around St louis?

2011-07-23 Thread Fmiser
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 Driving to Maine next week have a car I want to pickup on the
 way want to see if somebody has room for car on a car trailer
 or me to pick back up on the way back home

You know where I am.  I have room. :)

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] $600 rodbender

2011-07-23 Thread WILTON

Well, my SDL is black, anyway.

Wilton
white 87 300D (123 kmi)
black 91 350SDL (198 kmi)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] $600 rodbender



WILTON wrote:

A pity.


You could spend the next year or so restoring it to new, and then you'd 
have a pair. Both black, right?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

2011-07-23 Thread WILTON
A steering wheel that runs up and down (in/out) as selected by a little 
electric switch on left side of steering column and just below the steering 
wheel.  My 87 300D and 91 350SDL have 'em.


Wilton

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack



On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:45:14 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:



http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/2482516357.html


Almost twice as many miles as ours and $1250 more?

And, power telescopic wheel,? What's that?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread WILTON
Mine are named, too:  Blackun and Whiteun.  I'd say Schwartze und 
Weisse, but SWMBO wouldn't understand.


Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD



On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:33:06 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


 Bob Rentfro wrote:

 RIP Gump. One of the last named cars.

??

I have quite a few.  Every one of them is named.


I do as well.


Craig

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   '72 220/8
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   '72 220D/8  Herman 186 kmi

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a job?

2011-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Mountain Man wrote:

mao - no unemployment for me, uninsured, getting psychee this is the end


When you leave this earth, please take Daley and Emmanuel with you.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

2011-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/2482516357.html

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Over 24mpg hwy real world driving.
I think Craig would agree with that, if not the asking price.

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