Re: [MBZ] Speaking of trucks....

2013-10-03 Thread Chris James

Talk about harsh places and getting beat to hell!

Caminhão patinando no morro
(Truck skating on the hill)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW6jRigKwhU

A few more vintage MB truck vids I found:

Old Mercedes trucks at the factory field test('60s-'80s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XswYmEXE6CQ

Mercedes-Benz Truck History
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wavHO6wZm_A

Mercedes Benz Flatbed Tow Truck L1116 with OM352a
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9ycGAwn5k



From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Date:
10/2/2013 3:21 PM

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


 Only 121,000 original miles.  [all of it hauling loads and loads
of stuff in harsh places and getting beat to hell]

It looks sorta Unimogish

--R



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Chris J.
MBCA Peachtree section
Past MB Models:
'85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E

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[MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Rich Thomas

October



Contact:
Trent Fiorini
(815) 564-0136

Tom Benedikt
(770) 609-8795

1-800-741-5252



*buyMBparts Inc.*


October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the Mercedes. I 
am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that. We 
are making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a 
long time customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not 
part of buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz 
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw== and 
*will continue to have this site for you.*
 We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com 
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXRD9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVCjZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww== to 
the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it will 
be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately 
buymbparts.com was not available.


Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer *Genuine*, 
*OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this 
business, and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all 
for being our customers, and look forward to serving you soon.




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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread WILTON

Restitution FIRST!

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



October



Contact:
Trent Fiorini
(815) 564-0136

Tom Benedikt
(770) 609-8795

1-800-741-5252



*buyMBparts Inc.*


October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the Mercedes. I 
am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that. We 
are making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long 
time customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of 
buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz 
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw== 
and *will continue to have this site for you.*
 We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com 
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXRD9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVCjZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww== 
to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it will 
be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately 
buymbparts.com was not available.


Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer *Genuine*, 
*OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this business, 
and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for being our 
customers, and look forward to serving you soon.




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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth...  despite
the ubiquity of the internet.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Restitution FIRST!

 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
 constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



  October



 Contact:
 Trent Fiorini
 (815) 564-0136

 Tom Benedikt
 (770) 609-8795

 1-800-741-5252



 *buyMBparts Inc.*


 October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the Mercedes. I
 am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that. We are
 making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long time
 customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of
 buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz 
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp**
 P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-**f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_**
 ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-**ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
 and *will continue to have this site for you.*
  We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com 
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR**
 D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_**eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC**
 jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B**_8ukiwvJ6ww==http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXRD9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVCjZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww==
 to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it will
 be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately
 buymbparts.com was not available.

 Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer *Genuine*,
 *OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this business,
 and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for being our
 customers, and look forward to serving you soon.



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[MBZ] OT: Depressions and Wars. was: Fuel prices going DOWN

2013-10-03 Thread Gerry Archer

From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com



On Oct 2, 2013 5:12 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

maybe be false economy and i just
ought to get everything at costco
anyway



From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
Costco has done as much as if not more than Wal-Mart to benefit the 
Chinese

kleptocracy at the expense of American small business in the process of
providing us with all the cheap plastic throwaway crap we will buy.



This is remarkably like the 1930s depression, the difference being that 
Japan was the supplier of cheap goods back then.


Roosevelt was printing money like Obama is printing money now; there were 
millions of unemployed like there are millions of unemployed now; and the 
wealthy were sitting on their money back then just like the wealthy are 
sitting on their money now.


WW-2 solved Roosevelts problems.  What will solve the current problems?

Gerry...who remembers the Japanese house slippers with paper soles. 



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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my
customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy has
done


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth...  despite
 the ubiquity of the internet.


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Restitution FIRST!
 
  Wilt
 
  - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
  constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
 
 
 
   October
 
 
 
  Contact:
  Trent Fiorini
  (815) 564-0136
 
  Tom Benedikt
  (770) 609-8795
 
  1-800-741-5252
 
 
 
  *buyMBparts Inc.*
 
 
  October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the Mercedes. I
  am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that. We
 are
  making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long
 time
  customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of
  buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz 
  http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp**
  P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-**f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_**
  ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-**ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
 
  and *will continue to have this site for you.*
   We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com 
  http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR**
  D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_**eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC**
  jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B**_8ukiwvJ6ww==
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXRD9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVCjZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww==
 
  to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it
 will
  be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately
  buymbparts.com was not available.
 
  Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer *Genuine*,
  *OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this
 business,
  and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for being
 our
  customers, and look forward to serving you soon.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Depressions and Wars. was: Fuel prices going DOWN

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
when the economy first tanked, bimby lost most of its business.  i figured
everyone was in the same boat so it surprised me when the local purveyor of
used musical instruments was telling me how he was struggling before but is
now simply getting rich.  he explained that people hit by the economy are
now selling instruments they never thought they'd sell as they simply need
the money and people with money are just gobbling them up.

many people were not hurt by the depression.  perhaps most people were
not.  but for those hit by it, it was really bad

same for today


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote:

 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com


  On Oct 2, 2013 5:12 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 maybe be false economy and i just
 ought to get everything at costco
 anyway


 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com

 Costco has done as much as if not more than Wal-Mart to benefit the
 Chinese
 kleptocracy at the expense of American small business in the process of
 providing us with all the cheap plastic throwaway crap we will buy.

 ..**..

 This is remarkably like the 1930s depression, the difference being that
 Japan was the supplier of cheap goods back then.

 Roosevelt was printing money like Obama is printing money now; there were
 millions of unemployed like there are millions of unemployed now; and the
 wealthy were sitting on their money back then just like the wealthy are
 sitting on their money now.

 WW-2 solved Roosevelts problems.  What will solve the current problems?

 Gerry...who remembers the Japanese house slippers with paper soles.

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread WILTON

Please don't, Gary.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my
customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy 
has

done


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:


It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth... 
despite

the ubiquity of the internet.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Restitution FIRST!

 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
 constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



  October



 Contact:
 Trent Fiorini
 (815) 564-0136

 Tom Benedikt
 (770) 609-8795

 1-800-741-5252



 *buyMBparts Inc.*


 October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the Mercedes. 
 I
 am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that. 
 We

are
 making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long
time
 customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of
 buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz 
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp**
 P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-**f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_**
 ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-**ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==

 and *will continue to have this site for you.*
  We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com 
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR**
 D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_**eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC**
 jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B**_8ukiwvJ6ww==
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXRD9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVCjZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww==

 to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it
will
 be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately
 buymbparts.com was not available.

 Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer 
 *Genuine*,

 *OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this
business,
 and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for being
our
 customers, and look forward to serving you soon.



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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for
reasons i cannot fathom.  why not, wilton?  he is a crook using the trade
name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just
sit idly by and let him do it.  why?


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Please don't, Gary.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?


  it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my
 customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy
 has
 done


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth... despite
 the ubiquity of the internet.


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Restitution FIRST!
 
  Wilt
 
  - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
  constructivity.net 
  richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
 
 
 
   October
 
 
 
  Contact:
  Trent Fiorini
  (815) 564-0136
 
  Tom Benedikt
  (770) 609-8795
 
  1-800-741-5252
 
 
 
  *buyMBparts Inc.*
 
 
  October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the
 Mercedes.  I
  am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that.
  We
 are
  making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long
 time
  customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of
  buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz 
  http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohphttp://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp**
  P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_**
  ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp**
 P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-**f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_**
 ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-**ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
 
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Gary can and will do whatever he wants, with likely consequences he has 
not yet considered.  Best to leave him to his devices (devises), he will 
not take your advises.


--R


On 10/3/13 11:39 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for
reasons i cannot fathom.  why not, wilton?  he is a crook using the trade
name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just
sit idly by and let him do it.  why?


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Please don't, Gary.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?


  it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my

customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy
has
done


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

wrote:

  It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth... despite

the ubiquity of the internet.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Restitution FIRST!

Wilt

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Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



  October



Contact:
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(815) 564-0136

Tom Benedikt
(770) 609-8795

1-800-741-5252



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October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the

Mercedes.  I

am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that.
We

are

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time

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to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it

will

be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately
buymbparts.com was not available.

Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer 

*Genuine*,

*OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this

business,

and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for being

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
well i have not until now but i do wish to hear a reason to continue to
protect trent better than this concept of felling that you are the light
at the end of his tunnel.  when someone ridiculously fabricated that i am
a thief. nearly all of you jumped to support this insanity and yet you seek
to protect a real thief who has stolen from many of you from being publicly
exposed.   why?

andrew suggests it odd that so many don't know about trent but it's not odd
at all as his victims who covered for him for months while he stole now
continue to cover for him.  there is something fairly disingenuous in
saying no one should tell me the reason why i shouldn't publicize who trent
is because i won't listen and seems to just be covering for you have no
real reason at all.  why not expose trent for what he has done and then let
people decide for themselves if this is someone they wish to give money to
or not?


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Gary can and will do whatever he wants, with likely consequences he has
 not yet considered.  Best to leave him to his devices (devises), he will
 not take your advises.

 --R



 On 10/3/13 11:39 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for
 reasons i cannot fathom.  why not, wilton?  he is a crook using the trade
 name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just
 sit idly by and let him do it.  why?


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Please don't, Gary.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?


   it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my

 customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy
 has
 done


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.com

 wrote:

   It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth...
 despite

 the ubiquity of the internet.


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Restitution FIRST!

 Wilt

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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



   October



 Contact:
 Trent Fiorini
 (815) 564-0136

 Tom Benedikt
 (770) 609-8795

 1-800-741-5252



 *buyMBparts Inc.*


 October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the

 Mercedes.  I

 am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that.
 We

 are

 making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long

 time

 customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Depressions and Wars. was: Fuel prices going

2013-10-03 Thread Curt Raymond
The people hit worst by this last recession are those who had planned poorly. 
If you were a marginal worker you got the axe pretty quickly and were unable to 
get work again.

This recession was very different than the Great Depression in that a lot of 
people wouldn't travel and wouldn't take jobs they saw as beneath them. When 
I lost my job in 2002 I swept up at the local snowmobile shop until I got 
another full time job. I worked the entire time I was unemployed unless I 
wanted a day off to snowmobile.

I see so many help wanted jobs and ads it amazes me that anybody is 
unemployed. At least here in MA where the unemployment rate never got all that 
high. If you really need a job go to South Dakota...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 10:29:15 -0400
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Depressions and Wars. was: Fuel prices going
    DOWN
Message-ID:
    caciok3vndqeanuj3vcxjezfp3ap3ctxc0mf05pcwplnz7ho...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

when the economy first tanked, bimby lost most of its business.  i figured
everyone was in the same boat so it surprised me when the local purveyor of
used musical instruments was telling me how he was struggling before but is
now simply getting rich.  he explained that people hit by the economy are
now selling instruments they never thought they'd sell as they simply need
the money and people with money are just gobbling them up.

many people were not hurt by the depression.  perhaps most people were
not.  but for those hit by it, it was really bad

same for today
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Curt Raymond
In this case its not to protect Trent its to protect you.

None of us defend Trent, his sins have been well documented, that case is 
closed. If you sent an email now detailing everything it did it just makes you 
look petty because all you're really doing is piling it on.

Now if you wanted to send out a note about how great things are with you and 
you're having a special super sale on oil filters or something thats totally 
within bounds and might even drive some business.


Which reminds me when I get back from vacation and a business trip I need to 
make an order with you.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 11:39:07 -0400
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
Message-ID:
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that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for
reasons i cannot fathom.  why not, wilton?  he is a crook using the trade
name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just
sit idly by and let him do it.  why?


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Please don't, Gary.

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Depressions and Wars. was: Fuel prices going

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't know.  i know people down here who lost real jobs and have applied
for hundreds of joe jobs and can't even get considered.  it seems that if
you are not of certain demographics, based on their experience you are
simply not getting hired at your local supermarket, discount or big box
store and when it's been several years since your last real job, they
aren't looking at you either.  they are not considered eligible so those
help wanted signs will keep hanging.

i haven't tried to get a job in 20 years, so i can't speak personally the
subject of getting a job in 2013.  i can say that i know a lot of people
who were doing very well 10 years ago who are not doing so today and it
makes me wonder if this is not part of some fundamental shift in the jobs
market where they have largely been disenfranchised from it.  i think
something really bad is happening in american society and i think everyone
knows it on some level but few will talk about it openly


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The people hit worst by this last recession are those who had planned
 poorly. If you were a marginal worker you got the axe pretty quickly and
 were unable to get work again.

 This recession was very different than the Great Depression in that a lot
 of people wouldn't travel and wouldn't take jobs they saw as beneath
 them. When I lost my job in 2002 I swept up at the local snowmobile shop
 until I got another full time job. I worked the entire time I was
 unemployed unless I wanted a day off to snowmobile.

 I see so many help wanted jobs and ads it amazes me that anybody is
 unemployed. At least here in MA where the unemployment rate never got all
 that high. If you really need a job go to South Dakota...

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 10:29:15 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Depressions and Wars. was: Fuel prices going
 DOWN
 Message-ID:
 caciok3vndqeanuj3vcxjezfp3ap3ctxc0mf05pcwplnz7ho...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 when the economy first tanked, bimby lost most of its business.  i figured
 everyone was in the same boat so it surprised me when the local purveyor of
 used musical instruments was telling me how he was struggling before but is
 now simply getting rich.  he explained that people hit by the economy are
 now selling instruments they never thought they'd sell as they simply need
 the money and people with money are just gobbling them up.

 many people were not hurt by the depression.  perhaps most people were
 not.  but for those hit by it, it was really bad

 same for today
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 October


Thanks a lot Rich. Just when I thought this was all dead and buried...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Depressions and Wars. was: Fuel prices going DOWN

2013-10-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 WW-2 solved Roosevelts problems.  What will solve the current problems?


WW-III?

Rick
Who tends to extrapolate data given. 

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[MBZ] High road.

2013-10-03 Thread Frederick Moir
Gary, et al.
I've always voted with my dollars by buying from people that I trust and 
respect.
Who do I buy most of my MBZ parts from? You.
Please take the high road unless he does something actionable, then go for the 
throat!
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
p.s. That should have been paatz far ma caar
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
this conversation began with andrew mentioning how trent's deeds remain
largely unknown.  it is piling on in this very small group but my customer
list is about 6,000, maybe 100 or so have contact with this list.  the case
is not closed for those 5900 people who think they are buying from
buymbparts but are actually buying from trent, whose answer to what he did
was basically that he doesnt' know why anyone is upset as their credit card
companies have or will make them whole financially.  why should i not
document what has happened to those 5900 people who don't know what
happened and haven't yet given him money and sat wondering for weeks where
their parts are?

imagine you were doing business with a crook and i had documentation that
he was a crook, but i let you just give him money without informing you?
what sort of person would you think i was when you discovered your parts
were never coming and i knew that this was a likely outcome beforehand?
this is really essentially what i am being asked to do and i have done so
for a long time against my better judgment for no other reason than i have
feared anger and retribution from this group.  it just doesn't seem that
good a reason not to do the right thing, either on moral or pragmatic
grounds.  the reality is that very few of you buy from me and those who do
have experienced outstanding service and value that they probably wouldn't
discard out of protest over trent's exposure to an unknowing public.  and
those who aren't buying from me, especially those who won't consider it due
to their established hate bias against me, well, are they going to now stop
buying from me more than they are already not buying from me?

there is a kind of group psychosis going on here, i would say unusual but
it actually seems fairly common.  it may just be all groups create a
mythologizing orthodoxy.  the official public veneration of rusty, my
absolute villification, the insanely irrational support for trent (talk
about a religious cult in the making!) -- it's all lunacy.  while many of
you might be rational and decent people individually, as a group you are
fairly crazy and i am wondering if this opposition to my exposing trent to
the unwary is simply part of this madness and nothing more.  i think maybe
it's just the nature of groups as such to get crazy and support each other
publicly in that crazy. but i really don't want to join into crazy time and
will try to avoid doing so

i'd like a reason not to expose trent that makes sense to me so it's
something i do for some other reason than fear of your anger and retribution




On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 In this case its not to protect Trent its to protect you.

 None of us defend Trent, his sins have been well documented, that case is
 closed. If you sent an email now detailing everything it did it just makes
 you look petty because all you're really doing is piling it on.

 Now if you wanted to send out a note about how great things are with you
 and you're having a special super sale on oil filters or something thats
 totally within bounds and might even drive some business.


 Which reminds me when I get back from vacation and a business trip I need
 to make an order with you.

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 11:39:07 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
 Message-ID:
 CACioK3vh78zoZv6hYF9gto_Z3NXOeex57R=puybqtnhbn8p...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for
 reasons i cannot fathom.  why not, wilton?  he is a crook using the trade
 name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just
 sit idly by and let him do it.  why?


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Please don't, Gary.
 
  Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] High road.

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
ah, fred, i don't know what to do.  i wish this whole thing wasn't brought
up again as it's happier for me when i just don't have trent on my mind.

i often feel bad about letting him slide and responsible for all the people
he is currently cheating and going to cheat.  i have no reason to suppose
he has suddenly become a new man or paid his debts to those he has stolen
from in the past and now i let him roam free to exploit thousands of my
former customers.

i can't make you any promises either way right now and am happy to listen
to views on both sides

i don't know why people keep reintroducing trent to this discussion and
don't think it's a positive thing at all to be doing


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 Gary, et al.
 I've always voted with my dollars by buying from people that I trust and
 respect.
 Who do I buy most of my MBZ parts from? You.
 Please take the high road unless he does something actionable, then go for
 the throat!

 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.
 p.s. That should have been paatz far ma caar
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread rickknoble
Gary,

Exposing Trents sins to your mailing list of 6k plus clients makes perfect 
sense. A grammatically and factually correct exposé is probably in order, and 
would, in fact, be welcome, I think. Beating this thing to death here makes no 
sense. 

You are preaching to the choir, so to speak.

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread OK Don
My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of the
windshield that says it was crafted in the Kansas city plant.


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  No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?

 Randy

 On 02/10/2013 3:11 PM, WILTON wrote:

 ATTABOY.

 Where was it built?

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Rich Thomas

Any time I can help, don't hesitate to call on me!

I saw that blast and read it for grins, and saw the poor message, and 
thought about how one would want to represent his business, especially 
when trying to start off/recover, and just thought it was so sad it 
needed to be shared to the enthusiast community.


I am sorry it got Gary all agitated again.  He apparently does not yet 
realize most all of us here will not deal with Trent, and still feels 
hurt that some of us did.  I accept, I told you so and yessiree you 
are right.


--R


On 10/3/13 1:04 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


October


Thanks a lot Rich. Just when I thought this was all dead and buried...

Rick
Who didn't see any spelling errors, per se, but did see some incorrect grammar.
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
so i shouldn't even care about why there is such opposition to the idea
here then?


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM, rickknoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Gary,

 Exposing Trents sins to your mailing list of 6k plus clients makes perfect
 sense. A grammatically and factually correct exposé is probably in order,
 and would, in fact, be welcome, I think. Beating this thing to death here
 makes no sense.

 You are preaching to the choir, so to speak.

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Rich Thomas

Correct!

--R

On 10/3/13 1:52 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

so i shouldn't even care about why there is such opposition to the idea
here then?


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM, rickknoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:


Gary,

Exposing Trents sins to your mailing list of 6k plus clients makes perfect
sense. A grammatically and factually correct exposé is probably in order,
and would, in fact, be welcome, I think. Beating this thing to death here
makes no sense.

You are preaching to the choir, so to speak.

Rick Knoble

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
yes, all agitated.  i have unresolved issues, some of which include
trent.   it's not about people here dealing with trent as even the group
madness has given up on that idea, but about all the other people who are
not here.

i can't say i'm not jealous of the support he has received here and the
support i have not but that's not the crux of the issue.  he really got me
crazy when he said that thing about how he doesn't understand why anyone is
upset at him as the credit card paid them back.  there are just some things
you can say that will endear me to you and some that will not and this
really falls into the latter.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Any time I can help, don't hesitate to call on me!

 I saw that blast and read it for grins, and saw the poor message, and
 thought about how one would want to represent his business, especially when
 trying to start off/recover, and just thought it was so sad it needed to be
 shared to the enthusiast community.

 I am sorry it got Gary all agitated again.  He apparently does not yet
 realize most all of us here will not deal with Trent, and still feels hurt
 that some of us did.  I accept, I told you so and yessiree you are right.

 --R



 On 10/3/13 1:04 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
 constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

  October


 Thanks a lot Rich. Just when I thought this was all dead and buried...

 Rick
 Who didn't see any spelling errors, per se, but did see some incorrect
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Let me put it a different way, build yourself up without tearing somebody else 
down and most people will respect you more.

Truth is all well and good but in most cases is subjective, difficult to get 
and largely irrelevant.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:36:29 -0400
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
Message-ID:
    caciok3vk_qfdntzrqtnvvwuh2_kzoly4l_qt9m_22dgmrs6...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

this conversation began with andrew mentioning how trent's deeds remain
largely unknown.  it is piling on in this very small group but my customer
list is about 6,000, maybe 100 or so have contact with this list.  the case
is not closed for those 5900 people who think they are buying from
buymbparts but are actually buying from trent, whose answer to what he did
was basically that he doesnt' know why anyone is upset as their credit card
companies have or will make them whole financially.  why should i not
document what has happened to those 5900 people who don't know what
happened and haven't yet given him money and sat wondering for weeks where
their parts are?

imagine you were doing business with a crook and i had documentation that
he was a crook, but i let you just give him money without informing you?
what sort of person would you think i was when you discovered your parts
were never coming and i knew that this was a likely outcome beforehand?
this is really essentially what i am being asked to do and i have done so
for a long time against my better judgment for no other reason than i have
feared anger and retribution from this group.  it just doesn't seem that
good a reason not to do the right thing, either on moral or pragmatic
grounds.  the reality is that very few of you buy from me and those who do
have experienced outstanding service and value that they probably wouldn't
discard out of protest over trent's exposure to an unknowing public.  and
those who aren't buying from me, especially those who won't consider it due
to their established hate bias against me, well, are they going to now stop
buying from me more than they are already not buying from me?

there is a kind of group psychosis going on here, i would say unusual but
it actually seems fairly common.  it may just be all groups create a
mythologizing orthodoxy.  the official public veneration of rusty, my
absolute villification, the insanely irrational support for trent (talk
about a religious cult in the making!) -- it's all lunacy.  while many of
you might be rational and decent people individually, as a group you are
fairly crazy and i am wondering if this opposition to my exposing trent to
the unwary is simply part of this madness and nothing more.  i think maybe
it's just the nature of groups as such to get crazy and support each other
publicly in that crazy. but i really don't want to join into crazy time and
will try to avoid doing so

i'd like a reason not to expose trent that makes sense to me so it's
something i do for some other reason than fear of your anger and retribution
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[MBZ] OK, TAKE IT OFF THIS LIST!!!! [was: Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Craig
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:57:11 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
wrote:

 yes, all agitated.  i have unresolved issues, some of which include
 trent.   it's not about people here dealing with trent as even the group
 madness has given up on that idea, but about all the other people who
 are not here.
 
 i can't say i'm not jealous of the support he has received here and the
 support i have not but that's not the crux of the issue.  he really got
 me crazy when he said that thing about how he doesn't understand why
 anyone is upset at him as the credit card paid them back.  there are
 just some things you can say that will endear me to you and some that
 will not and this really falls into the latter.


OK (AND I AM SHOUTING!). LET'S DROP THE MATTER OF TRENT OFF THIS LIST!

HE CAN NO LONGER POST TO THIS LIST AND ANYONE WHO GETS AN EMAIL FROM HIM
OFFLIST CAN IGNORE IT AND DELETE IT (or unsubscribe, as I have done) AND
NOT POST IT TO THIS LIST!

IF ANY OF YOU WANT DO DISCUSS TRENT OR EXPOSE HIM TO CUSTOMERS (why, they
are YOUR customers?), DO IT OFFLIST!

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
it may just be irrelevant in this case, but it doesn't seem particularly
subjective or difficult to get to. we will see.  right now my uncle from
ecuador is coming to visit, so my afternoon is going to soon be shot.
actually, he's my first cousin once removed but is much older so he sort of
became an uncle


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Let me put it a different way, build yourself up without tearing somebody
 else down and most people will respect you more.

 Truth is all well and good but in most cases is subjective, difficult to
 get and largely irrelevant.

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:36:29 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
 Message-ID:
 caciok3vk_qfdntzrqtnvvwuh2_kzoly4l_qt9m_22dgmrs6...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 this conversation began with andrew mentioning how trent's deeds remain
 largely unknown.  it is piling on in this very small group but my customer
 list is about 6,000, maybe 100 or so have contact with this list.  the case
 is not closed for those 5900 people who think they are buying from
 buymbparts but are actually buying from trent, whose answer to what he did
 was basically that he doesnt' know why anyone is upset as their credit card
 companies have or will make them whole financially.  why should i not
 document what has happened to those 5900 people who don't know what
 happened and haven't yet given him money and sat wondering for weeks where
 their parts are?

 imagine you were doing business with a crook and i had documentation that
 he was a crook, but i let you just give him money without informing you?
 what sort of person would you think i was when you discovered your parts
 were never coming and i knew that this was a likely outcome beforehand?
 this is really essentially what i am being asked to do and i have done so
 for a long time against my better judgment for no other reason than i have
 feared anger and retribution from this group.  it just doesn't seem that
 good a reason not to do the right thing, either on moral or pragmatic
 grounds.  the reality is that very few of you buy from me and those who do
 have experienced outstanding service and value that they probably wouldn't
 discard out of protest over trent's exposure to an unknowing public.  and
 those who aren't buying from me, especially those who won't consider it due
 to their established hate bias against me, well, are they going to now stop
 buying from me more than they are already not buying from me?

 there is a kind of group psychosis going on here, i would say unusual but
 it actually seems fairly common.  it may just be all groups create a
 mythologizing orthodoxy.  the official public veneration of rusty, my
 absolute villification, the insanely irrational support for trent (talk
 about a religious cult in the making!) -- it's all lunacy.  while many of
 you might be rational and decent people individually, as a group you are
 fairly crazy and i am wondering if this opposition to my exposing trent to
 the unwary is simply part of this madness and nothing more.  i think maybe
 it's just the nature of groups as such to get crazy and support each other
 publicly in that crazy. but i really don't want to join into crazy time and
 will try to avoid doing so

 i'd like a reason not to expose trent that makes sense to me so it's
 something i do for some other reason than fear of your anger and
 retribution
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 3, 2013 10:50 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of the
 windshield that says it was crafted in the Kansas city plant.



Artisan pickups?

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread WILTON
Gary, we on the list know enough about what Trent has done to us.  We are 
not trying to protect Trent.  I'm just afraid the more you say about his 
actions with us, the more it may hurt you.  You have a good market with us 
here on the list.  I seriously doubt that any of his msgs to us (on or off 
list) will change our minds about dealing/not dealing with him.  I'm afraid 
that persistent comments by you about him, though, may hurt you.  I'm merely 
trying to protect you and the list, not Trent.


I deeply regret throwing in the restitution comment this morning.  I 
should have known it would incite other comments.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for
reasons i cannot fathom.  why not, wilton?  he is a crook using the trade
name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just
sit idly by and let him do it.  why?


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Please don't, Gary.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?


 it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my

customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy
has
done


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth... 
despite

the ubiquity of the internet.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Restitution FIRST!

 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



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 (815) 564-0136

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Re: [MBZ] High road.

2013-10-03 Thread Craig
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:43:31 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
wrote:

 i don't know why people keep reintroducing trent to this discussion and
 don't think it's a positive thing at all to be doing

I agree with you, Gary!


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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
it's not about the list.  it is about those who are not on the list.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:35 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Gary, we on the list know enough about what Trent has done to us.  We are
 not trying to protect Trent.  I'm just afraid the more you say about his
 actions with us, the more it may hurt you.  You have a good market with us
 here on the list.  I seriously doubt that any of his msgs to us (on or off
 list) will change our minds about dealing/not dealing with him.  I'm afraid
 that persistent comments by you about him, though, may hurt you.  I'm
 merely trying to protect you and the list, not Trent.

 I deeply regret throwing in the restitution comment this morning.  I
 should have known it would incite other comments.


 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:39 AM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?


  that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for
 reasons i cannot fathom.  why not, wilton?  he is a crook using the trade
 name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just
 sit idly by and let him do it.  why?


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Please don't, Gary.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?


  it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my

 customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy
 has
 done


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth...
 despite

 the ubiquity of the internet.


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Restitution FIRST!
 
  Wilt
 
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 so i shouldn't even care about why there is such opposition to the idea
 here then?
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM, rickknoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Gary,
 
 Exposing Trents sins to your mailing list of 6k plus clients makes perfect
 sense.


I doubt that there is any opposition to you mass emailing your clientele and 
informing them of the facts, and how to avoid being taken advantage of, and who 
they can order from to receive the best quality parts, at fair and reasonable 
prices. There are expert wordsmiths on this very list, who, if asked, would 
assist you with this task. I am certain of that. 

There is however, opposition to your voicing your factually based opinion of 
trent here, as true and right that it may be. We know. We were there. We 
(collectively) got taken, snookered, ripped off, put off, ignored, lied to, and 
ultimately asked to return. We are not that stupid Gary. 

It's just that like any human, I don't think ANY of us like to be reminded of 
our mistakes, failures, down fallings, mis-placed allegiances, or financial 
mistakes. 

Makes sense, no?

Rick
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[MBZ] Uncles from Ecuador [was Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Craig
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:27:47 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
wrote:

 right now my uncle from ecuador is coming to visit, so my afternoon is
 going to soon be shot. actually, he's my first cousin once removed but
 is much older so he sort of became an uncle

Where in Ecuador does he live? On the coast like Guayaquil, or up in the
mountains, like Quito?

Enjoy your time with him.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Randy Bennell

I know there is a sticker in that spot. I will look to see what it says.

Randy

On 03/10/2013 12:50 PM, OK Don wrote:

My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of the
windshield that says it was crafted in the Kansas city plant.


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:



  No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?

Randy

On 02/10/2013 3:11 PM, WILTON wrote:


ATTABOY.

Where was it built?

Wilt







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Re: [MBZ] Uncles from Ecuador [was Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
quito


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:27:47 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  right now my uncle from ecuador is coming to visit, so my afternoon is
  going to soon be shot. actually, he's my first cousin once removed but
  is much older so he sort of became an uncle

 Where in Ecuador does he live? On the coast like Guayaquil, or up in the
 mountains, like Quito?

 Enjoy your time with him.


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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread WILTON
Gary, please tell the other 5900 all you want to about Trent, but please 
spare us on the list the agony of it all again.  When I need MB stuff (need 
some right now, but not sure what), I'll order it from you - certainly not 
Trent.  I learn easily.  I think that goes fairly much for all of us on the 
list.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



yes, all agitated.  i have unresolved issues, some of which include
trent.   it's not about people here dealing with trent as even the group
madness has given up on that idea, but about all the other people who are
not here.

i can't say i'm not jealous of the support he has received here and the
support i have not but that's not the crux of the issue.  he really got me
crazy when he said that thing about how he doesn't understand why anyone 
is
upset at him as the credit card paid them back.  there are just some 
things

you can say that will endear me to you and some that will not and this
really falls into the latter.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Any time I can help, don't hesitate to call on me!

I saw that blast and read it for grins, and saw the poor message, and
thought about how one would want to represent his business, especially 
when
trying to start off/recover, and just thought it was so sad it needed to 
be

shared to the enthusiast community.

I am sorry it got Gary all agitated again.  He apparently does not yet
realize most all of us here will not deal with Trent, and still feels 
hurt
that some of us did.  I accept, I told you so and yessiree you are 
right.


--R



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On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 October




Thanks a lot Rich. Just when I thought this was all dead and buried...

Rick
Who didn't see any spelling errors, per se, but did see some incorrect
grammar.
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Re: [MBZ] OK, TAKE IT OFF THIS LIST!!!! [was: Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread WILTON

Amen.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OK, TAKE IT OFF THIS LIST [was: Re: Can we chip in for a 
spel chekker?]




On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:57:11 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
wrote:


yes, all agitated.  i have unresolved issues, some of which include
trent.   it's not about people here dealing with trent as even the group
madness has given up on that idea, but about all the other people who
are not here.

i can't say i'm not jealous of the support he has received here and the
support i have not but that's not the crux of the issue.  he really got
me crazy when he said that thing about how he doesn't understand why
anyone is upset at him as the credit card paid them back.  there are
just some things you can say that will endear me to you and some that
will not and this really falls into the latter.



OK (AND I AM SHOUTING!). LET'S DROP THE MATTER OF TRENT OFF THIS LIST!

HE CAN NO LONGER POST TO THIS LIST AND ANYONE WHO GETS AN EMAIL FROM HIM
OFFLIST CAN IGNORE IT AND DELETE IT (or unsubscribe, as I have done) AND
NOT POST IT TO THIS LIST!

IF ANY OF YOU WANT DO DISCUSS TRENT OR EXPOSE HIM TO CUSTOMERS (why, they
are YOUR customers?), DO IT OFFLIST!

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 3, 2013 11:45 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 I know there is a sticker in that spot. I
 will look to see what it says.


Henry Ford's signature, perhaps.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Uncles from Ecuador [was Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Craig
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:45:40 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
wrote:

 quito

Any connection with HCJB?


Craig


 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 
  On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:27:47 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   right now my uncle from ecuador is coming to visit, so my afternoon
   is going to soon be shot. actually, he's my first cousin once
   removed but is much older so he sort of became an uncle
 
  Where in Ecuador does he live? On the coast like Guayaquil, or up in
  the mountains, like Quito?
 
  Enjoy your time with him.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] High road.

2013-10-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Exacting don't know why people bring it up unless they are just trying to stir 
it up

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On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 ah, fred, i don't know what to do.  i wish this whole thing wasn't brought
 up again as it's happier for me when i just don't have trent on my mind.
 
 i often feel bad about letting him slide and responsible for all the people
 he is currently cheating and going to cheat.  i have no reason to suppose
 he has suddenly become a new man or paid his debts to those he has stolen
 from in the past and now i let him roam free to exploit thousands of my
 former customers.
 
 i can't make you any promises either way right now and am happy to listen
 to views on both sides
 
 i don't know why people keep reintroducing trent to this discussion and
 don't think it's a positive thing at all to be doing
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
 Gary, et al.
 I've always voted with my dollars by buying from people that I trust and
 respect.
 Who do I buy most of my MBZ parts from? You.
 Please take the high road unless he does something actionable, then go for
 the throat!
 
 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.
 p.s. That should have been paatz far ma caar
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread WILTON
Used to be a VW sticker that went something like this, Built by elfs in der 
voods.


Wilt

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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks



On Oct 3, 2013 10:50 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:


My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of 
the

windshield that says it was crafted in the Kansas city plant.




Artisan pickups?

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Or maybe he should invite his 6k people to come here

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 Gary,
 
 Exposing Trents sins to your mailing list of 6k plus clients makes perfect 
 sense. A grammatically and factually correct exposé is probably in order, and 
 would, in fact, be welcome, I think. Beating this thing to death here makes 
 no sense. 
 
 You are preaching to the choir, so to speak.
 
 Rick Knoble
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Randy Bennell


No, big green and oval.
I will be surprised if it does not refer to the plant and the unions.

Randy

On 03/10/2013 1:51 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Oct 3, 2013 11:45 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

I know there is a sticker in that spot. I
will look to see what it says.


Henry Ford's signature, perhaps.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread WILTON

'Zackly.

Wilt

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?



Or maybe he should invite his 6k people to come here

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Gary,

Exposing Trents sins to your mailing list of 6k plus clients makes 
perfect sense. A grammatically and factually correct exposé is probably 
in order, and would, in fact, be welcome, I think. Beating this thing to 
death here makes no sense.


You are preaching to the choir, so to speak.

Rick Knoble

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Frederick Moir
Built by trolls in Trollhatten?
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks
 

Used to be a VW sticker that went something like this, Built by elfs in der 
voods.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks


 On Oct 3, 2013 10:50 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of 
 the
 windshield that says it was crafted in the Kansas city plant.



 Artisan pickups?

 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Rich Thomas
That is high on my list of priorities to deal with as I have been losing 
sleep over it.  How about I spend another several $100 with you?  Will 
that do it?


--R

On 10/3/13 1:57 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

there are just some things
you can say that will endear me to you and some that will not and this
really falls into the latter.



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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 3, 2013 12:05 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Built by trolls in Trollhatten?


Pour some aquavit on the ground for Saab...

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Frederick Moir
Alex, et al.
Would it be OK to strain it through my kidneys first?
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




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Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks
 

On Oct 3, 2013 12:05 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Built by trolls in Trollhatten?


Pour some aquavit on the ground for Saab...


Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Uncles from Ecuador [was Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't even know what that is and he just left so i can't ask him  :(


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:45:40 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  quito

 Any connection with HCJB?


 Craig


 
  On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 
   On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:27:47 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
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right now my uncle from ecuador is coming to visit, so my afternoon
is going to soon be shot. actually, he's my first cousin once
removed but is much older so he sort of became an uncle
  
   Where in Ecuador does he live? On the coast like Guayaquil, or up in
   the mountains, like Quito?
  
   Enjoy your time with him.
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
you are actually near the lead of big spenders on the list already, but
i'll take another 100 even if i have to guilt you into it


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 That is high on my list of priorities to deal with as I have been losing
 sleep over it.  How about I spend another several $100 with you?  Will that
 do it?

 --R


 On 10/3/13 1:57 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 there are just some things
 you can say that will endear me to you and some that will not and this
 really falls into the latter.



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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
sure, i can do that


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Or maybe he should invite his 6k people to come here

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:47 PM, rickknoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Gary,
 
  Exposing Trents sins to your mailing list of 6k plus clients makes
 perfect sense. A grammatically and factually correct exposé is probably in
 order, and would, in fact, be welcome, I think. Beating this thing to death
 here makes no sense.
 
  You are preaching to the choir, so to speak.
 
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Re: [MBZ] High road.

2013-10-03 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote:
 I agree with you, Gary!

Well now...  Sounds very nice to your previous shouting about this...
Group hug.
Evidence is in the pudding.
My pudding comes from drfatty, jabbhursty, Gary.
Thanks, my friend.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Uncles from Ecuador [was Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Mountain Man
drfatty wrote:
 i don't even know what that is and he just left so i can't ask him  :(


Huge shortwave radio station.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Mountain Man
drfatty wrote:
 well i have not until now but i do wish to hear a reason to continue to
 protect trent

First - trim your posts, puleeez.
Everyone? - please trim posts?
I think we need to understand that you have more information about all
things bimby than any of us and the bimby information is painful for
you to keep unvoiced as you watch almighty dollar be chased.  It has
got to be painful for you to see many customers be walmart people.
You also hate to see ignorance is bliss in the parts biz, especially
since bimby was/is your baby.  There is no ability for wrong to be
covered and be okay - wrong is wrong.  Yet, carrying wrong without
voicing the truth is probably more painful - something we cannot know.
 An encyclopedia from you will not give enough information for us to
know - that is the protection Curt/Wilton/Rick/Rich speak about for
you.  We do *not* understand your frustration, but I think we grasp
the level of frustration you are expressing.
Enjoy your visit with uncle/cousin.  Forget this pain... if possible.
Pick that medicine ball up and throw it, again.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Curt Raymond
You're not thinking of: 
http://shop.saabcarmuseum.com/shop/32995/art95/h9284/15649284-origpic-75354e.jpg
are you?

-Curt

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:59:31 -0400
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Used to be a VW sticker that went something like this, Built by elfs in der 
voods.

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Re: [MBZ] High road.

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
you've got a big group hug thing going today, huh?


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Craig wrote:
  I agree with you, Gary!

 Well now...  Sounds very nice to your previous shouting about this...
 Group hug.
 Evidence is in the pudding.
 My pudding comes from drfatty, jabbhursty, Gary.
 Thanks, my friend.
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

2013-10-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Frederick Moir wrote:

Built by trolls in Trollhatten?


I wish I could have said that about my 1977 EMS rustbucket.
All the Belgian Saabs of that era were rustbucket, and all the sunroof cars were 
 assembled in Belgium. I always wondered if they stamped the sheetmetal in 
Trollhatten and then sent it by sea to Belgium, where it would have arrived 
pre-rusted.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Uncles from Ecuador [was Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't think so.  he's like a rich playboy type who is now old


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 drfatty wrote:
  i don't even know what that is and he just left so i can't ask him  :(
 

 Huge shortwave radio station.
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Re: [MBZ] OK, TAKE IT OFF THIS LIST!!!! [was: Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Hendrik and Fay
This thread can't be closed until I put in my 5 cents plus tax worth of 
dribble:)


Anyway my advice to Dr Fatty is to make sure if you are going to put out 
a warning to your customers about the activities of a competitor, is to 
make sure you have the evidence to back up your allegations.
Has Trent actually done things of an illegal nature to you directly or 
are you referring to things done to others?
Best off to play it safe and put out a mass mail along the lines of do 
you trust your parts vendor, do you know the history of the person you 
are sending dollars to, are you getting the best parts for the best 
price then you can go on about your track record and also state that if 
people want to find out more, to contact you.
You can sign it: Gary Hurst, your honest, experienced and reliable parts 
supplier.
I was thinking you could also say 'friendly' but that would be 
stretching it a little:)
Basically you are reminding your customers to think about who they are 
dealing with, without actually accusing anyone directly. If they care 
enough they will ask for more information and I think you pointing the 
finger at Trent directly, sort of stinks of malice and may put customers 
off.
If there has been illegal things done, why aren't the cops or lawyers 
involved? Is what a lot of people will be thinking.


Also I do take mild offence that you accuse this list of having some 
sort of secret agenda/cult thingy, is Trent still on this list? No. Are 
you on this list? Yes.

What does that tell you?
Plus you do not need to bring up ancient history regarding the issues 
you and Rusty had/have, that's been dealt with and we have moved on.


there is a kind of group psychosis going on here, i would say unusual but
it actually seems fairly common.  it may just be all groups create a
mythologizing orthodoxy.  the official public veneration of rusty, my
absolute villification, the insanely irrational support for trent (talk
about a religious cult in the making!) -- it's all lunacy.  while many of
you might be rational and decent people individually, as a group you are
fairly crazy and i am wondering if this opposition to my exposing trent to
the unwary is simply part of this madness and nothing more.  i think maybe
it's just the nature of groups as such to get crazy and support each other
publicly in that crazy. but i really don't want to join into crazy time and
will try to avoid doing so

Perhaps you might like to re-read what you wrote and think whether it came out 
the way you intended?
My take is that we treated Trent on the basis of a fair go and once it became 
apparent that he was no longer entitled to a fair go, we acted accordingly.
People do make mistakes but there are limits, would you like us to give you a 
fair go and accept that you do make mistakes or are you happy for us to drop 
you, as soon as you stuff up.
I could go running to Kaleb and ask him to ban you on the basis of insulting 
the list members but I am not but will ask you to treat us with a bit more 
respect and also use capital letters now and then.

Hendrik
who has to do some landscaping



On 04/10/13 04:19, WILTON wrote:

Amen.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:26 PM
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for a spel chekker?]




On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:57:11 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
wrote:


yes, all agitated.  i have unresolved issues, some of which include
trent.   it's not about people here dealing with trent as even the 
group

madness has given up on that idea, but about all the other people who
are not here.

i can't say i'm not jealous of the support he has received here and the
support i have not but that's not the crux of the issue.  he really got
me crazy when he said that thing about how he doesn't understand why
anyone is upset at him as the credit card paid them back. there are
just some things you can say that will endear me to you and some that
will not and this really falls into the latter.



OK (AND I AM SHOUTING!). LET'S DROP THE MATTER OF TRENT OFF THIS LIST!

HE CAN NO LONGER POST TO THIS LIST AND ANYONE WHO GETS AN EMAIL FROM HIM
OFFLIST CAN IGNORE IT AND DELETE IT (or unsubscribe, as I have done) AND
NOT POST IT TO THIS LIST!

IF ANY OF YOU WANT DO DISCUSS TRENT OR EXPOSE HIM TO CUSTOMERS (why, 
they

are YOUR customers?), DO IT OFFLIST!

Thanks,


Craig




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Re: [MBZ] OK, TAKE IT OFF THIS LIST!!!! [was: Re: Can we chip in for a spel chekker?]

2013-10-03 Thread Dwight Giles
Double Amen
On Oct 3, 2013 2:50 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Amen.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:26 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OK, TAKE IT OFF THIS LIST [was: Re: Can we chip in for
 a spel chekker?]


  On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:57:11 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  yes, all agitated.  i have unresolved issues, some of which include
 trent.   it's not about people here dealing with trent as even the group
 madness has given up on that idea, but about all the other people who
 are not here.

 i can't say i'm not jealous of the support he has received here and the
 support i have not but that's not the crux of the issue.  he really got
 me crazy when he said that thing about how he doesn't understand why
 anyone is upset at him as the credit card paid them back.  there are
 just some things you can say that will endear me to you and some that
 will not and this really falls into the latter.



 OK (AND I AM SHOUTING!). LET'S DROP THE MATTER OF TRENT OFF THIS LIST!

 HE CAN NO LONGER POST TO THIS LIST AND ANYONE WHO GETS AN EMAIL FROM HIM
 OFFLIST CAN IGNORE IT AND DELETE IT (or unsubscribe, as I have done) AND
 NOT POST IT TO THIS LIST!

 IF ANY OF YOU WANT DO DISCUSS TRENT OR EXPOSE HIM TO CUSTOMERS (why, they
 are YOUR customers?), DO IT OFFLIST!

 Thanks,


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Benz Hogs

Drop it already, please?

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)

On 10/3/2013 12:36 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

this conversation began with andrew mentioning how trent's deeds remain
largely unknown.  it is piling on in this very small group but my customer
list is about 6,000, maybe 100 or so have contact with this list.  the case
is not closed for those 5900 people who think they are buying from
buymbparts but are actually buying from trent, whose answer to what he did
was basically that he doesnt' know why anyone is upset as their credit card
companies have or will make them whole financially.  why should i not
document what has happened to those 5900 people who don't know what
happened and haven't yet given him money and sat wondering for weeks where
their parts are?

imagine you were doing business with a crook and i had documentation that
he was a crook, but i let you just give him money without informing you?
what sort of person would you think i was when you discovered your parts
were never coming and i knew that this was a likely outcome beforehand?
this is really essentially what i am being asked to do and i have done so
for a long time against my better judgment for no other reason than i have
feared anger and retribution from this group.  it just doesn't seem that
good a reason not to do the right thing, either on moral or pragmatic
grounds.  the reality is that very few of you buy from me and those who do
have experienced outstanding service and value that they probably wouldn't
discard out of protest over trent's exposure to an unknowing public.  and
those who aren't buying from me, especially those who won't consider it due
to their established hate bias against me, well, are they going to now stop
buying from me more than they are already not buying from me?

there is a kind of group psychosis going on here, i would say unusual but
it actually seems fairly common.  it may just be all groups create a
mythologizing orthodoxy.  the official public veneration of rusty, my
absolute villification, the insanely irrational support for trent (talk
about a religious cult in the making!) -- it's all lunacy.  while many of
you might be rational and decent people individually, as a group you are
fairly crazy and i am wondering if this opposition to my exposing trent to
the unwary is simply part of this madness and nothing more.  i think maybe
it's just the nature of groups as such to get crazy and support each other
publicly in that crazy. but i really don't want to join into crazy time and
will try to avoid doing so

i'd like a reason not to expose trent that makes sense to me so it's
something i do for some other reason than fear of your anger and retribution




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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
it was already dropped but as you seem to want to make a fight of it rather
than leave it dropped, i might oblige you


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

 Drop it already, please?

 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
 '98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)


 On 10/3/2013 12:36 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 this conversation began with andrew mentioning how trent's deeds remain
 largely unknown.  it is piling on in this very small group but my customer
 list is about 6,000, maybe 100 or so have contact with this list.  the
 case
 is not closed for those 5900 people who think they are buying from
 buymbparts but are actually buying from trent, whose answer to what he did
 was basically that he doesnt' know why anyone is upset as their credit
 card
 companies have or will make them whole financially.  why should i not
 document what has happened to those 5900 people who don't know what
 happened and haven't yet given him money and sat wondering for weeks where
 their parts are?

 imagine you were doing business with a crook and i had documentation that
 he was a crook, but i let you just give him money without informing you?
 what sort of person would you think i was when you discovered your parts
 were never coming and i knew that this was a likely outcome beforehand?
 this is really essentially what i am being asked to do and i have done so
 for a long time against my better judgment for no other reason than i have
 feared anger and retribution from this group.  it just doesn't seem that
 good a reason not to do the right thing, either on moral or pragmatic
 grounds.  the reality is that very few of you buy from me and those who do
 have experienced outstanding service and value that they probably wouldn't
 discard out of protest over trent's exposure to an unknowing public.  and
 those who aren't buying from me, especially those who won't consider it
 due
 to their established hate bias against me, well, are they going to now
 stop
 buying from me more than they are already not buying from me?

 there is a kind of group psychosis going on here, i would say unusual
 but
 it actually seems fairly common.  it may just be all groups create a
 mythologizing orthodoxy.  the official public veneration of rusty, my
 absolute villification, the insanely irrational support for trent (talk
 about a religious cult in the making!) -- it's all lunacy.  while many of
 you might be rational and decent people individually, as a group you are
 fairly crazy and i am wondering if this opposition to my exposing trent to
 the unwary is simply part of this madness and nothing more.  i think maybe
 it's just the nature of groups as such to get crazy and support each other
 publicly in that crazy. but i really don't want to join into crazy time
 and
 will try to avoid doing so

 i'd like a reason not to expose trent that makes sense to me so it's
 something i do for some other reason than fear of your anger and
 retribution



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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Mountain Man
drfatty wrote:
 ...i might oblige you

..eh...  ...eh...
Repeat after me.
I am an alcoholic.  Again.  Again.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] High road.

2013-10-03 Thread Mountain Man
drfatty wrote:
 you've got a big group hug thing going today, huh?

Seems much better than the idiocy about government pogroms for funding
gov't and health that the radio seems infatuated about today.
It was interesting to contemplate what someone mentioned.  The gov't
has a presumed infinite life so it can always borrow more $$.  Me? -
yeah, that's gonna happen.  But, is the gov't life really infinite?
Is it moral to shove today's spending in to the future as far as it
seems we do today?  Perhaps actuarial assumptions break down?  Social
Security works fine for my mom and others, but I seem to hear that it
might not be quite so solvent for me as a boomer.  So when I ask for
the system to gimme, the system flows tighten for my mom, or others
already taking.  Perhaps I should what my country can do for me, but
rather ask what I can do for my country - not take and...
And then the whole gov't thing.  More?  Less?  Good?  Bad?
A diversion - group hug... so... '80's
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I wouldn't do that, Gary. It can come back to haunt you in


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my
 customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy has
 done


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth...
  despite
  the ubiquity of the internet.
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
   Restitution FIRST!
  
   Wilt
  
   - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
   constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
   Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
  
  
  
October
  
  
  
   Contact:
   Trent Fiorini
   (815) 564-0136
  
   Tom Benedikt
   (770) 609-8795
  
   1-800-741-5252
  
  
  
   *buyMBparts Inc.*
  
  
   October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the
 Mercedes. I
   am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that.
 We
  are
   making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long
  time
   customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of
   buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz 
   http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp**
   P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-**f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_**
   ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-**ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
 
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   and *will continue to have this site for you.*
We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com 
   http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR**
   D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_**eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC**
   jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B**_8ukiwvJ6ww==
 
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   to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it
  will
   be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately
   buymbparts.com was not available.
  
   Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer
 *Genuine*,
   *OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this
  business,
   and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for being
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Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i really haven't make a decision on it but am leaning towards exposing
him.  it was actually your point that got me thinking about it again.  it's
pretty shocking to me where the bimby has ended up and i might go an try to
reclaim it.

the glory days of the bimby, when ebay was cheap and maybe 10 people were
selling european car parts online.  i'd sell mercedes out of stuff
worldwide on certain items in 3 days, which must have really messed with
their pricing and purchasing algorithms.

i still have people in the industry meet me for the first time and say
hey, aren't you the guy who destroyed the parts business? and can proudly
for a moment feel like a player and say why, yes, i am!

do any of you guys remember the name of the first guys to have online
catalogs?  there was one guy, long gone, who had on his page that he had
been online since 1995 and he went out of business early 2000s.  it wasn't
megaparts but i think he was also from new jersey.  he ran up like a 200
grand tab with worldpac and just ran.  kaleb knows who it is as he ordered
some stuff from the guy on ebay long after the guy quit shipping but before
he disappeared for good.

i love nostalgia  :)


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wouldn't do that, Gary. It can come back to haunt you in


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my
  customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy
 has
  done
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth...
   despite
   the ubiquity of the internet.
  
  
   On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
  
Restitution FIRST!
   
Wilt
   
- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@
 **
constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
   
   
   
 October
   
   
   
Contact:
Trent Fiorini
(815) 564-0136
   
Tom Benedikt
(770) 609-8795
   
1-800-741-5252
   
   
   
*buyMBparts Inc.*
   
   
October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the
  Mercedes. I
am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that.
  We
   are
making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a
 long
   time
customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part
 of
buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz 
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp**
P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-**f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_**
ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-**ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
  
 
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==
   
and *will continue to have this site for you.*
 We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com 
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR**
D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_**eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC**
jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B**_8ukiwvJ6ww==
  
 
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to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it
   will
be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately
buymbparts.com was not available.
   
Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer
  *Genuine*,
*OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this
   business,
and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for
 being
   our
customers, and look forward to serving you soon.
   
   
   
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