Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine

[dseretakis]

Stop, you're making me real hungry 

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

> I watched a great linguine alla vongole recipe on a TV cooking show that
> actually threw the pasta into the saucepan with the sauce, which had
> sufficient liquid to be absorbed by the linguine.  This avoided the need to
> cook the pasta separately and better yet, the sauce soaked into the pasta.
> I think the clams got thrown in at the end so as not to overcook.  Anyone
> have this recipe, because I can't find one like it.  They all cook the
> linguine separately in water.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
> wrote:
> 
>> We use one like this:
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/T-fal-E9389784-Professional-Nonstick-Dishwasher/dp/B00
>> 
>> 4VJMT78/ref=sr_1_20?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1384638470&sr=1-20&keywords=t-
>> fal
>> 
>> to make tomato sauce dishes and seafood (mariscos) in lemon/olive oil sauce
>> that is to die for.  Heats evenly, easy clean-up and no off flavors to the
>> food.
>> 
>> The other pans in this series are also very useful.
>> 
>> Seafood recipe on request to anyone interested.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
>> Hurst
>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:13 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine
>> 
>> i really always thought of t-fal as being stuff that poor white trash meth
>> heads would use in between stints in county.  live and learn!
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not sure who you're referring to, but I clearly stated that I have
>>> Guardian Ware, which is plain aluminum as well as Magnelite, which is
>>> hard anodized.
>>> 
>>> I don't really cook much with the Guardian Ware, rather, I plate and
>>> present on it as much of what I have is platters or serving ware. My
>>> Magnelite is all hard anodized stuff, but I avoid cooking anything
>>> that's acidic in it, as it attacks the surface.
>>> 
>>> For high temperature stuff, like frying, I use T-Fal skillets or
>>> frying pans, as the hard anodized aluminum discolors badly over time
>>> and can be a real b*tch to clean from high temperature cooking.
>>> 
>>> Probably the one exception to that is a hard anodized wok that I have.
>>> I love cooking with it on the side burner of our grille, as it's about
>>> the hottest heat source I have.  Otherwise, high temp stuff like
>>> fajitas get done in cast iron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>>> 
 he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum
 your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive
 anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about
 
 i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall myself
 and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum.  the sick
 thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw aluminum,
 but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you (although it
 should)
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino
 >>> wrote:
 
> I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware.  Aluminum
> certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and
> pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food.  We also
> use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and
> really non-stick.  I recall that my
>>> mom's
> aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly
> corrosive effects of the food.  Why would you want to cook with that?
> 
> Greg
> 
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> Dan Penoff
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
> 
> I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware.  I have a bunch
> of
>>> it
> in
> the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day.
> 
> It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a "party"
> and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come
> and demo
>>> it.
> Also known as aluminum "waterless" cookware.
> 
> Heavy, heavy duty stuff.  Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I
> love using it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> 
>> i also really like old corning glass stuff.  i don't buy or keep
>> stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be
>> covered with corelle and pyrex
>> 
>> i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to
>> anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area.  haven't
>> been in over 20 years though.  i'd be surprised if there was still
>> a lot going on there today
>> 
>>

Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

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Brunswick, ME. You've been to the house!

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

> Ok. Where is your new garage?
> On Nov 17, 2013 11:00 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like a plan! You know where to find me!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dimitri - I can show you how to be a "real man"In exchange for you
>> showing
>>> me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything
>>> out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce.
>>> DWIGHT
>>> 
>>> Dwight
>>> On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM,  wrote:
>>> 
 Guess I'm not a real man:)
 
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 On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
 
> We have "bow tie Wednesday" in my office.  I have a pretty decent
 collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time.
> 
> I would add that these are "real" or what are known as "self tied" bow
 ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that
>> have
 a strap that you hook around your neck.
> 
> A real man can tie a bow tie.  It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard
 to do once you know how.  The hard part is getting the tie "dressed"
>> when
 you're done.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> Why are you wearing bow ties!?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

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Haha. I saw that video yesterday. Gotta love the hot chick in heels and dress 
slacks polishing a concrete floor. Hell, if she can do it..

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> Heres the video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66EaApndk1c
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> 
>> I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year.  I
>> initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more
>> research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to.  I
>> considered tile and polish too.  I rejected polish due to the huge amount
>> of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars.
>> There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are
>> involved.  Its huge.   I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have
>> it.
>> 
>> I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy
>> floor.  I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft.
>> 
>> Here are some photos of before, during, after:
>> http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/
>> 
>> So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of
>> jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily.  And it doesn't get
>> slippery when wet.  No regrets.
>> 
>> If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend
>> it.  I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now,
>> which was one of the main factors in my decision.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM,  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about
>>> having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me
>>> $7 per square foot.  This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking
>>> about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job.
>>> Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

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Ok. Where is your new garage?
On Nov 17, 2013 11:00 PM,  wrote:

> Sounds like a plan! You know where to find me!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> > Dimitri - I can show you how to be a "real man"In exchange for you
> showing
> > me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything
> > out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce.
> > DWIGHT
> >
> > Dwight
> > On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM,  wrote:
> >
> >> Guess I'm not a real man:)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >>
> >>> We have "bow tie Wednesday" in my office.  I have a pretty decent
> >> collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time.
> >>>
> >>> I would add that these are "real" or what are known as "self tied" bow
> >> ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that
> have
> >> a strap that you hook around your neck.
> >>>
> >>> A real man can tie a bow tie.  It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard
> >> to do once you know how.  The hard part is getting the tie "dressed"
> when
> >> you're done.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>
>  Why are you wearing bow ties!?
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

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You are absolutely correct.
On Nov 17, 2013 11:04 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> They're really not any harder to tie than a regular tie. It's just
> different, that's all. Once you know the basics it's pretty easy.
>
> Just like long ties, some have a better "hand" and are easier to tie than
> others. You have to fiddle with them a little once tied to get everything
> even, but other than that it's pretty straightforward.
>
> Dan who is not a college professor but works in education
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > No. But I've only worn them at my senior prom and one or two other
> formals! Two difficult to tie. If you're the eccentric college prof then
> they would be apropos.  Oh yeah you're a college prof:)!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Dimitri- you got a problem with bow ties? LOL. All I wear.
> >> Dwight
> >>> On Nov 17, 2013 4:49 PM,  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Why are you wearing bow ties!?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>  I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I
> >>> noticed that in some of their "trendy" departments the floors were
> polished
> >>> concrete.
> 
>  Dan
> 
> 
> > On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
> >
> > They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop.  In
> >>> Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts
> and
> >>> such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there.
> >
> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

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So polished appeals to me more than epoxy/paint because it is less affected by 
welding slag, sparks from grinding, etc.

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Alex Chamberlain  wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as
>>> epoxy?  If not, I don't see the point for a garage.  First time you tip
>>> over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined.
>> 
>> 
>> What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't
>> fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why
>> would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it.
> Actually, I agree.  That was my point.  If a polished floor is both
> expensive and also doesn't protect well against stains, then it seems like
> the worst of both worlds, assuming you are concerned about the looks of
> your garage floor.
> 
> The main reason why I'd paint a garage floor would be that white paint on
> the floor, like on the walls, makes the room a lot lighter in general. I
> imagine it'd also be easier to spot dropped fasteners, too.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

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They're really not any harder to tie than a regular tie. It's just different, 
that's all. Once you know the basics it's pretty easy.

Just like long ties, some have a better "hand" and are easier to tie than 
others. You have to fiddle with them a little once tied to get everything even, 
but other than that it's pretty straightforward.

Dan who is not a college professor but works in education

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> On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> No. But I've only worn them at my senior prom and one or two other formals! 
> Two difficult to tie. If you're the eccentric college prof then they would be 
> apropos.  Oh yeah you're a college prof:)!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Dimitri- you got a problem with bow ties? LOL. All I wear.
>> Dwight
>>> On Nov 17, 2013 4:49 PM,  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why are you wearing bow ties!?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
 
 I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I
>>> noticed that in some of their "trendy" departments the floors were polished
>>> concrete.
 
 Dan
 
 
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
> 
> They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop.  In
>>> Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and
>>> such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

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Sounds like a plan! You know where to find me!

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

> Dimitri - I can show you how to be a "real man"In exchange for you showing
> me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything
> out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce.
> DWIGHT
> 
> Dwight
> On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> Guess I'm not a real man:)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> We have "bow tie Wednesday" in my office.  I have a pretty decent
>> collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time.
>>> 
>>> I would add that these are "real" or what are known as "self tied" bow
>> ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have
>> a strap that you hook around your neck.
>>> 
>>> A real man can tie a bow tie.  It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard
>> to do once you know how.  The hard part is getting the tie "dressed" when
>> you're done.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> 
 Why are you wearing bow ties!?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

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Dimitri - I can show you how to be a "real man"In exchange for you showing
me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything
out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce.
DWIGHT

Dwight
On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM,  wrote:

> Guess I'm not a real man:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> > We have "bow tie Wednesday" in my office.  I have a pretty decent
> collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time.
> >
> > I would add that these are "real" or what are known as "self tied" bow
> ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have
> a strap that you hook around your neck.
> >
> > A real man can tie a bow tie.  It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard
> to do once you know how.  The hard part is getting the tie "dressed" when
> you're done.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >> Why are you wearing bow ties!?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[dseretakis]

It's a four car, that is 1250 sq ft. At $7 per sq ft I just can't do it!
This will be my dream garage. Timber frame construction, loft, bathroom!

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 6:13 PM, "Darren Marshall"  wrote:

> $7/sqft sounds reasonable, how big is the garage?
> 
> —
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> dar...@doejo.com | 773 348 1227 | 3128 N Broadway, Chicago
> 
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM, clay  wrote:
> 
>> Depends on how large an area you are trying to hit.
>> There are large grinders, life a floor polisher.  Diamond disks are VERY 
>> expensive wear items.  You can rent them for a reasonable fee.  The bigger 
>> issue, beyond days of hard labor dancing with a machine, is the cure of the 
>> pad.  The older the thing, the gooder, as it might be too soft or crumble 
>> with that much action.  Another issue is the skim coating.   Rough coat 
>> would be simpler to work with instead of having to grind through all the 
>> soft gunk on top.
>> Like redoing a wood floor, you will also need smaller grinders to tackle 
>> around the walls and in corners.  Maybe the cabinets and shelf units go 
>> there, saving a little labor and cash.
>> clay
>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having 
>>> a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per 
>>> square foot.  This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about 
>>> doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with 
>>> any experience polishing concrete floors?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

[dseretakis]

Guess I'm not a real man:)

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> We have "bow tie Wednesday" in my office.  I have a pretty decent collection 
> of them, but I like adding to it from time to time.
> 
> I would add that these are "real" or what are known as "self tied" bow ties 
> which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap 
> that you hook around your neck.
> 
> A real man can tie a bow tie.  It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do 
> once you know how.  The hard part is getting the tie "dressed" when you're 
> done.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> Why are you wearing bow ties!?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[dseretakis]

No. But I've only worn them at my senior prom and one or two other formals! Two 
difficult to tie. If you're the eccentric college prof then they would be 
apropos.  Oh yeah you're a college prof:)!

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

> Hey Dimitri- you got a problem with bow ties? LOL. All I wear.
> Dwight
> On Nov 17, 2013 4:49 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> Why are you wearing bow ties!?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I
>> noticed that in some of their "trendy" departments the floors were polished
>> concrete.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>>> 
 They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop.  In
>> Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and
>> such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there.
 
 --R
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine

[Greg Fiorentino]

The only recipes I've seen like this call for cooking the pasta most of the
way before putting it into the sauce for the last few minutes.  Lydia
Bastianich often does that.  It's a good way to absorb some liquid (and
flavors!) into the pasta.  I sometimes do this, and it works well.  I don't
see cooking the pasta completely in the sauce unless the sauce is more like
a soup.  Definitely the clams should only cook for a few minutes or they'll
be awfully tough.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine

I watched a great linguine alla vongole recipe on a TV cooking show that
actually threw the pasta into the saucepan with the sauce, which had
sufficient liquid to be absorbed by the linguine.  This avoided the need to
cook the pasta separately and better yet, the sauce soaked into the pasta.
I think the clams got thrown in at the end so as not to overcook.  Anyone
have this recipe, because I can't find one like it.  They all cook the
linguine separately in water.


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Greg Fiorentino
wrote:

> We use one like this:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/T-fal-E9389784-Professional-Nonstick-Dishwasher/
> dp/B00
>
> 4VJMT78/ref=sr_1_20?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1384638470&sr=1-20&keywo
> rds=t-
> fal
>
> to make tomato sauce dishes and seafood (mariscos) in lemon/olive oil 
> sauce that is to die for.  Heats evenly, easy clean-up and no off 
> flavors to the food.
>
> The other pans in this series are also very useful.
>
> Seafood recipe on request to anyone interested.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gary Hurst
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine
>
> i really always thought of t-fal as being stuff that poor white trash 
> meth heads would use in between stints in county.  live and learn!
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure who you're referring to, but I clearly stated that I 
> > have Guardian Ware, which is plain aluminum as well as Magnelite, 
> > which is hard anodized.
> >
> > I don't really cook much with the Guardian Ware, rather, I plate and 
> > present on it as much of what I have is platters or serving ware. My 
> > Magnelite is all hard anodized stuff, but I avoid cooking anything 
> > that's acidic in it, as it attacks the surface.
> >
> > For high temperature stuff, like frying, I use T-Fal skillets or 
> > frying pans, as the hard anodized aluminum discolors badly over time 
> > and can be a real b*tch to clean from high temperature cooking.
> >
> > Probably the one exception to that is a hard anodized wok that I have.
> > I love cooking with it on the side burner of our grille, as it's 
> > about the hottest heat source I have.  Otherwise, high temp stuff 
> > like fajitas get done in cast iron.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> > > he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of 
> > > aluminum your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non 
> > > reactive anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking 
> > > about
> > >
> > > i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall 
> > > myself and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum.  the 
> > > sick thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw 
> > > aluminum, but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you 
> > > (although it
> > > should)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
> > > > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware.  Aluminum 
> > >> certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and 
> > >> pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food.  We also 
> > >> use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and 
> > >> really non-stick.  I recall that my
> > mom's
> > >> aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly 
> > >> corrosive effects of the food.  Why would you want to cook with that?
> > >>
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf 
> > >> Of Dan Penoff
> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM
> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
> > >>
> > >> I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware.  I have a 
> > >> bunch of
> > it
> > >> in
> > >> the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day.
> > >>
> > >> It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a "party"
> > >> and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come 
> > >> and demo
> > it.
> > >> Also known as aluminum "waterless" cookware.
> > >>
> > >> Heavy, heavy duty stuff.  Sucks to have 

Re: [MBZ] Lorinser W124 Coupe, Anyone?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Just saw this on BW:
>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1799225-1988-300ce-lorinser-coupe.html#post6622865
>
> The lack of working AC is a little scary on this model, but if you're into
> the Lorinser stuff it might be a nice catch.


I like the body kit, but the interior mods don't do anything for me--in
particular the door-panel add-on speakers with exposed screws look awful.

A long list of repairs and replaced parts but no mention of the suspension.
 In my experience, you have to budget $1,500 right off the bat on any used
Mercedes with the multilink rear suspension (201, 124, 201, 210 at least)
for a complete rebuild (or $500 for factory parts plus a couple of
unpleasant weekends lying on your back doing it yourself).  That plus a
possible evapectomy (or at least partial dash removal to replace dead
climate control vacuum pods) makes the price pretty silly, IMHO.

Also, Eureka is right on the ocean--I'd be worried about rust, even if he
says there isn't any.

On the plus side, once you get it sorted out, a 300CE is a heck of a nice
ride.  I'd hold out for a Southern California unmolested one with the
'91-later interior upgrades and 24-valve engine.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> >
> > Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as
> > epoxy?  If not, I don't see the point for a garage.  First time you tip
> > over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined.
> >
>
>
> What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't
> fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why
> would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it.
>
>
Actually, I agree.  That was my point.  If a polished floor is both
expensive and also doesn't protect well against stains, then it seems like
the worst of both worlds, assuming you are concerned about the looks of
your garage floor.

The main reason why I'd paint a garage floor would be that white paint on
the floor, like on the walls, makes the room a lot lighter in general. I
imagine it'd also be easier to spot dropped fasteners, too.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine

[Dwight Giles]

Hmm this could be a new entrée for the chowdahQ.  Seriously Andrew I will
ask  my wife. She has about 300 cookbooks. Makes sense to me but I just dig
the clams.
Dwight
On Nov 17, 2013 10:13 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> I watched a great linguine alla vongole recipe on a TV cooking show that
> actually threw the pasta into the saucepan with the sauce, which had
> sufficient liquid to be absorbed by the linguine.  This avoided the need to
> cook the pasta separately and better yet, the sauce soaked into the pasta.
> I think the clams got thrown in at the end so as not to overcook.  Anyone
> have this recipe, because I can't find one like it.  They all cook the
> linguine separately in water.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Greg Fiorentino  >wrote:
>
> > We use one like this:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/T-fal-E9389784-Professional-Nonstick-Dishwasher/dp/B00
> >
> >
> 4VJMT78/ref=sr_1_20?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1384638470&sr=1-20&keywords=t-
> > fal
> >
> > to make tomato sauce dishes and seafood (mariscos) in lemon/olive oil
> sauce
> > that is to die for.  Heats evenly, easy clean-up and no off flavors to
> the
> > food.
> >
> > The other pans in this series are also very useful.
> >
> > Seafood recipe on request to anyone interested.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> > Hurst
> > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:13 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine
> >
> > i really always thought of t-fal as being stuff that poor white trash
> meth
> > heads would use in between stints in county.  live and learn!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure who you're referring to, but I clearly stated that I have
> > > Guardian Ware, which is plain aluminum as well as Magnelite, which is
> > > hard anodized.
> > >
> > > I don't really cook much with the Guardian Ware, rather, I plate and
> > > present on it as much of what I have is platters or serving ware. My
> > > Magnelite is all hard anodized stuff, but I avoid cooking anything
> > > that's acidic in it, as it attacks the surface.
> > >
> > > For high temperature stuff, like frying, I use T-Fal skillets or
> > > frying pans, as the hard anodized aluminum discolors badly over time
> > > and can be a real b*tch to clean from high temperature cooking.
> > >
> > > Probably the one exception to that is a hard anodized wok that I have.
> > > I love cooking with it on the side burner of our grille, as it's about
> > > the hottest heat source I have.  Otherwise, high temp stuff like
> > > fajitas get done in cast iron.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> > >
> > > > he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum
> > > > your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive
> > > > anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about
> > > >
> > > > i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall myself
> > > > and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum.  the sick
> > > > thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw aluminum,
> > > > but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you (although it
> > > > should)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware.  Aluminum
> > > >> certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and
> > > >> pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food.  We also
> > > >> use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and
> > > >> really non-stick.  I recall that my
> > > mom's
> > > >> aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly
> > > >> corrosive effects of the food.  Why would you want to cook with
> that?
> > > >>
> > > >> Greg
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > > >> Dan Penoff
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM
> > > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
> > > >>
> > > >> I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware.  I have a bunch
> > > >> of
> > > it
> > > >> in
> > > >> the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day.
> > > >>
> > > >> It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a "party"
> > > >> and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come
> > > >> and demo
> > > it.
> > > >> Also known as aluminum "waterless" cookware.
> > > >>
> > > >> Heavy, heavy duty stuff.  Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I
> > > >> love using it.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> i also really like old corning glass stuff.  i don't buy or keep
> > > >>> stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would

Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I watched a great linguine alla vongole recipe on a TV cooking show that
actually threw the pasta into the saucepan with the sauce, which had
sufficient liquid to be absorbed by the linguine.  This avoided the need to
cook the pasta separately and better yet, the sauce soaked into the pasta.
I think the clams got thrown in at the end so as not to overcook.  Anyone
have this recipe, because I can't find one like it.  They all cook the
linguine separately in water.


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> We use one like this:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/T-fal-E9389784-Professional-Nonstick-Dishwasher/dp/B00
>
> 4VJMT78/ref=sr_1_20?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1384638470&sr=1-20&keywords=t-
> fal
>
> to make tomato sauce dishes and seafood (mariscos) in lemon/olive oil sauce
> that is to die for.  Heats evenly, easy clean-up and no off flavors to the
> food.
>
> The other pans in this series are also very useful.
>
> Seafood recipe on request to anyone interested.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> Hurst
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine
>
> i really always thought of t-fal as being stuff that poor white trash meth
> heads would use in between stints in county.  live and learn!
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure who you're referring to, but I clearly stated that I have
> > Guardian Ware, which is plain aluminum as well as Magnelite, which is
> > hard anodized.
> >
> > I don't really cook much with the Guardian Ware, rather, I plate and
> > present on it as much of what I have is platters or serving ware. My
> > Magnelite is all hard anodized stuff, but I avoid cooking anything
> > that's acidic in it, as it attacks the surface.
> >
> > For high temperature stuff, like frying, I use T-Fal skillets or
> > frying pans, as the hard anodized aluminum discolors badly over time
> > and can be a real b*tch to clean from high temperature cooking.
> >
> > Probably the one exception to that is a hard anodized wok that I have.
> > I love cooking with it on the side burner of our grille, as it's about
> > the hottest heat source I have.  Otherwise, high temp stuff like
> > fajitas get done in cast iron.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> > > he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum
> > > your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive
> > > anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about
> > >
> > > i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall myself
> > > and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum.  the sick
> > > thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw aluminum,
> > > but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you (although it
> > > should)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino
> > > > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware.  Aluminum
> > >> certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and
> > >> pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food.  We also
> > >> use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and
> > >> really non-stick.  I recall that my
> > mom's
> > >> aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly
> > >> corrosive effects of the food.  Why would you want to cook with that?
> > >>
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > >> Dan Penoff
> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM
> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
> > >>
> > >> I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware.  I have a bunch
> > >> of
> > it
> > >> in
> > >> the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day.
> > >>
> > >> It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a "party"
> > >> and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come
> > >> and demo
> > it.
> > >> Also known as aluminum "waterless" cookware.
> > >>
> > >> Heavy, heavy duty stuff.  Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I
> > >> love using it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> i also really like old corning glass stuff.  i don't buy or keep
> > >>> stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be
> > >>> covered with corelle and pyrex
> > >>>
> > >>> i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to
> > >>> anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area.  haven't
> > >>> been in over 20 years though.  i'd be surprised if there was still
> > >>> a lot going on there today
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst
> > >>> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  i found some jap cutlery of the sixties.  really nice stuff

Re: [MBZ] bow ties

[Dan Penoff]

I have enough long and bow ties, probably close to 100, that I don't worry too 
much about wear and tear.  The hard thing is finding a way to store them so 
they're accessible.

I have found our local Penneys has a very limited supply, and since it's 
seasonal time there are more out, but they're the goofy holiday themed things 
that I hate to wear.  I did see one that I was tempted to buy - it had a dark 
fabric with a little tiny skull wearing a Santa hat pattern.  You had to look 
closely to really see what it was.

I love ties that have some sort of pattern that's fun but not easily 
noticeable.  When I worked in the corporate world one of my former employers 
was pretty strict about our dress code.  About the only thing they didn't get 
sticky about was ties.

I liked wearing ties as described above, as well as cufflinks that made some 
sort of statement.  Sort of an "FU" to the "Man".  One of my favorite ties is a 
Looney Toons tie that has a dark green background with a repeating pattern of 
Sylvester with his arms up in the air.  It's sort of an interlocking pattern so 
you have to look closely to see it.

Dan

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> but really tie  & wear well against whisker rash.i have some that I have
> worn for 10 years. I will have to check Penney's.
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[MBZ] Fwd: Re: bow ties

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I get mine online from 2 bow tie  manufacturers.  They are S class prices
but really tie  & wear well against whisker rash.i have some that I have
worn for 10 years. I will have to check Penney's.
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Re: [MBZ] bow ties

[Dwight Giles]

I get mine online from 2 bow tie  manufacturers.  They are S class prices
but really tie  & wear well against whisker rash.i have some that I have
worn for 10 years. I will have to check Penney's.
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Mountain Man]

Darren wrote:
> —
> Darren Marshall, Co Founder

I looked at the bowtruss blog and found many pictures.  Are you in the
blog pictures?  Put up a link.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

[Mountain Man]

Dan wrote:
> When I was at Penney's today I found one little rotating rack with some 
> mostly holiday themed, self tied bow ties.
>

15 years ago the only place to find self tied was Nordstrom's.  I have
never thought self tied was difficult in the least.  Easy to tie just
right.  Now you say they are at Penny's? - I want to see that.  From a
time that they could not be found to Penny's - this culture is goofed.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[OK Don]

>
> Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as
> epoxy?  If not, I don't see the point for a garage.  First time you tip
> over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined.
>
> Alex
>

What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't
fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why
would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it.


My hangar has what I thought was an epoxy paint on the concrete, but I
spilled a bit of B12 Chemtool on it once, and it looked like old paint with
paint stripper on it - bullbed right up! I flattened it a bit and let it
dry out - at least it is still in place. While it is nice to have a painted
floor, and it sweeps easily, it is dangerously slick with the slightest bit
of dust or water on it. I can't move the plane if the bottom of my shoes
are damp.

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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

[Dan Penoff]

I know what you're referring to.  "Dressing" a bow tie doesn't require letting 
out one side of it or asking the wearer which side they prefer...

Dan


On Nov 17, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> umm, "dressing" refers to another aspect of a gentleman's proper arrangement, 
> so to speak.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Darren Marshall]

$7/sqft sounds reasonable, how big is the garage?

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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM, clay  wrote:

> Depends on how large an area you are trying to hit.
> There are large grinders, life a floor polisher.  Diamond disks are VERY 
> expensive wear items.  You can rent them for a reasonable fee.  The bigger 
> issue, beyond days of hard labor dancing with a machine, is the cure of the 
> pad.  The older the thing, the gooder, as it might be too soft or crumble 
> with that much action.  Another issue is the skim coating.   Rough coat would 
> be simpler to work with instead of having to grind through all the soft gunk 
> on top.
> Like redoing a wood floor, you will also need smaller grinders to tackle 
> around the walls and in corners.  Maybe the cabinets and shelf units go 
> there, saving a little labor and cash.
> clay
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having 
>> a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per 
>> square foot.  This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about 
>> doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with 
>> any experience polishing concrete floors?
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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

[MG]

I'm surprised that you got it to remain steady enough to be 
usable with it only fastened to 1/2" plywood. Mine does work 
quite well fastened to the garage floor though. When I'm not 
using it I just unbolt it and put it away in the corner.


Manfred


Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:45:53 -0600
From: Hans Neureiter 

I made it "portable" by bolting it to a 4'x4' sheet of 1/2" 
plywood with

carriage bolts and wing nuts..

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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Nov 16, 2013 7:25 PM,  wrote:
>
> I'm building a new garage and the
> slab is poured. I'm thinking about
> having a polished concrete surface.

Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as
epoxy?  If not, I don't see the point for a garage.  First time you tip
over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[clay]

Depends on how large an area you are trying to hit.

There are large grinders, life a floor polisher.  Diamond disks are VERY 
expensive wear items.  You can rent them for a reasonable fee.  The bigger 
issue, beyond days of hard labor dancing with a machine, is the cure of the 
pad.  The older the thing, the gooder, as it might be too soft or crumble with 
that much action.  Another issue is the skim coating.   Rough coat would be 
simpler to work with instead of having to grind through all the soft gunk on 
top.

Like redoing a wood floor, you will also need smaller grinders to tackle around 
the walls and in corners.  Maybe the cabinets and shelf units go there, saving 
a little labor and cash.

clay


On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a 
> polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per 
> square foot.  This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about 
> doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with 
> any experience polishing concrete floors?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

[Rich Thomas]

umm, "dressing" refers to another aspect of a gentleman's proper 
arrangement, so to speak.


--R


On 11/17/13 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

The hard part is getting the tie "dressed" when you're done.



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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

[Dwight Giles]

There is a company that converts long ties to beau ties.
On Nov 17, 2013 5:12 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Yes, unfortunately there are.
>
> When I was at Penney's today I found one little rotating rack with some
> mostly holiday themed, self tied bow ties.
>
> It seems to be hit or miss - last time I was there they actually had
> several racks of them and there were some pretty nice ones.  I didn't want
> to get carried away so I only bought one.  That'll teach me.
>
> eBay can be a good source for them too.
>
> I got a Jerry Garcia (regular) tie for a birthday gift last week.  Not
> often you hear of someone getting a tie for a gift and liking it...
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>
> > Dan are there bow ties that are NOT self-tied? English friend of mine
> said
> > tie it perfectly then mess it up, then feign surprise at idea of pre
> tied.
> > I have about 50 in my collection.
> > Dwight
>
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Craig]

On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:06:26 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski 
wrote:

> Here are some photos of before, during, after:
> http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/

Now that's a GARAGE!

It looks like new construction. Is it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

[Dan Penoff]

Yes, unfortunately there are.

When I was at Penney's today I found one little rotating rack with some mostly 
holiday themed, self tied bow ties.

It seems to be hit or miss - last time I was there they actually had several 
racks of them and there were some pretty nice ones.  I didn't want to get 
carried away so I only bought one.  That'll teach me.

eBay can be a good source for them too.

I got a Jerry Garcia (regular) tie for a birthday gift last week.  Not often 
you hear of someone getting a tie for a gift and liking it...

Dan


On Nov 17, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

> Dan are there bow ties that are NOT self-tied? English friend of mine said
> tie it perfectly then mess it up, then feign surprise at idea of pre tied.
> I have about 50 in my collection.
> Dwight


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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

[Dwight Giles]

Dan are there bow ties that are NOT self-tied? English friend of mine said
tie it perfectly then mess it up, then feign surprise at idea of pre tied.
I have about 50 in my collection.
Dwight
On Nov 17, 2013 4:58 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> We have "bow tie Wednesday" in my office.  I have a pretty decent
> collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time.
>
> I would add that these are "real" or what are known as "self tied" bow
> ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have
> a strap that you hook around your neck.
>
> A real man can tie a bow tie.  It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to
> do once you know how.  The hard part is getting the tie "dressed" when
> you're done.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Why are you wearing bow ties!?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties

[Dan Penoff]

We have "bow tie Wednesday" in my office.  I have a pretty decent collection of 
them, but I like adding to it from time to time.

I would add that these are "real" or what are known as "self tied" bow ties 
which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap 
that you hook around your neck.

A real man can tie a bow tie.  It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do 
once you know how.  The hard part is getting the tie "dressed" when you're done.

Dan


On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Why are you wearing bow ties!?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Dwight Giles]

Hey Dimitri- you got a problem with bow ties? LOL. All I wear.
Dwight
On Nov 17, 2013 4:49 PM,  wrote:

> Why are you wearing bow ties!?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> > I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I
> noticed that in some of their "trendy" departments the floors were polished
> concrete.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
> >
> >> They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop.  In
> Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and
> such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there.
> >>
> >> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Heres the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66EaApndk1c

Jaime



On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

> I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year.  I
> initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more
> research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to.  I
> considered tile and polish too.  I rejected polish due to the huge amount
> of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars.
>  There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are
> involved.  Its huge.   I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have
> it.
>
> I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy
> floor.  I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft.
>
> Here are some photos of before, during, after:
> http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/
>
> So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of
> jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily.  And it doesn't get
> slippery when wet.  No regrets.
>
> If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend
> it.  I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now,
> which was one of the main factors in my decision.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM,  wrote:
>
>> I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about
>> having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me
>> $7 per square foot.  This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking
>> about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job.
>> Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[dseretakis]

Why are you wearing bow ties!?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I noticed 
> that in some of their "trendy" departments the floors were polished concrete.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
> 
>> They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop.  In Houston 
>> there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such 
>> outdoors, I used to see them around here and there.
>> 
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] cookware

[Jon Agne]

The only things in my house that say Revere are the copper cups I use for 
Moscow Mules.

Love my cast iron skillets!


On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:24 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Yep, completely unscathed again.  'Been lucky.  ;<)
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mike Esh" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookware
> 
> 
>> Wilton,  were you able to get away from her without any major bruises?  :)
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 231-286-2344
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 2:48 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The iron pans that I cast in 1954 work great; saw SWMBO using one of 'em 
>>> this morning.
>>> 
>>> Wilton
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Greg Fiorentino" 
>>> 
>>> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookware
>>> 
>>> 
 Bottom line is how stuff works.  Revereware doesn't.
 
 Greg
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
 Hurst
 Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:24 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookware
 
 well, if i think t-fal is a sad joke for morons, i'm certainly not going to
 have nice things about revereware.  even back in the day, it was known that
 only the lowest clss morons bought the stuff, the upper crust of moronia
 always buying the now perhaps forgotten "farberware" instead
 
 always silly to buy anything.  once you abandon the cast iron, you are just
 a joke of modern consumerist society
 
 
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Agreed.  I have a Revereware tea kettle but that's about it.
> 
> Copper is too labor intensive to maintain and too easy to damage, IMHO.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
> 
> > The RevereWare my sister bought my mother about 20 years ago stinks.
> Lids fit poorly, so things go dry unexepectedly, the copper is too
> thin so they don't heat evenly, etc.  Better than the cheap junk I
> bought in my 20's, but not something I'd search out.
> >
> > Belgique  (sp) at Target or Macy's (and some of the Martha Stewart
> stuff) is better in my opinion.
> >
> > RevereWare from the 80s or eariler might be much better -- my sister
> also has a set that is somewhat older, but better than Mom's.
> >
> > Peter
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Re: [MBZ] cookware

[WILTON]

Yep, completely unscathed again.  'Been lucky.  ;<)

Wilton

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Wilton,  were you able to get away from her without any major bruises?  :)

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 2:48 PM, WILTON  wrote:

The iron pans that I cast in 1954 work great; saw SWMBO using one of 'em 
this morning.


Wilton

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Bottom line is how stuff works.  Revereware doesn't.

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookware

well, if i think t-fal is a sad joke for morons, i'm certainly not going 
to
have nice things about revereware.  even back in the day, it was known 
that

only the lowest clss morons bought the stuff, the upper crust of moronia
always buying the now perhaps forgotten "farberware" instead

always silly to buy anything.  once you abandon the cast iron, you are 
just

a joke of modern consumerist society



On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

Agreed.  I have a Revereware tea kettle but that's about it.

Copper is too labor intensive to maintain and too easy to damage, IMHO.

Dan

On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> The RevereWare my sister bought my mother about 20 years ago stinks.
Lids fit poorly, so things go dry unexepectedly, the copper is too
thin so they don't heat evenly, etc.  Better than the cheap junk I
bought in my 20's, but not something I'd search out.
>
> Belgique  (sp) at Target or Macy's (and some of the Martha Stewart
stuff) is better in my opinion.
>
> RevereWare from the 80s or eariler might be much better -- my sister
also has a set that is somewhat older, but better than Mom's.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] cookware

[Mike Esh]

Wilton,  were you able to get away from her without any major bruises?  :)

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> On Nov 17, 2013, at 2:48 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> 
> The iron pans that I cast in 1954 work great; saw SWMBO using one of 'em this 
> morning.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Greg Fiorentino" 
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookware
> 
> 
>> Bottom line is how stuff works.  Revereware doesn't.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
>> Hurst
>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:24 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookware
>> 
>> well, if i think t-fal is a sad joke for morons, i'm certainly not going to
>> have nice things about revereware.  even back in the day, it was known that
>> only the lowest clss morons bought the stuff, the upper crust of moronia
>> always buying the now perhaps forgotten "farberware" instead
>> 
>> always silly to buy anything.  once you abandon the cast iron, you are just
>> a joke of modern consumerist society
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Agreed.  I have a Revereware tea kettle but that's about it.
>>> 
>>> Copper is too labor intensive to maintain and too easy to damage, IMHO.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
>>> 
>>> > The RevereWare my sister bought my mother about 20 years ago stinks.
>>> Lids fit poorly, so things go dry unexepectedly, the copper is too
>>> thin so they don't heat evenly, etc.  Better than the cheap junk I
>>> bought in my 20's, but not something I'd search out.
>>> >
>>> > Belgique  (sp) at Target or Macy's (and some of the Martha Stewart
>>> stuff) is better in my opinion.
>>> >
>>> > RevereWare from the 80s or eariler might be much better -- my sister
>>> also has a set that is somewhat older, but better than Mom's.
>>> >
>>> > Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Dan Penoff]

I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I noticed that 
in some of their "trendy" departments the floors were polished concrete.

Dan


On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop.  In Houston 
> there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such 
> outdoors, I used to see them around here and there.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] cookware

[WILTON]

The iron pans that I cast in 1954 work great; saw SWMBO using one of 'em 
this morning.


Wilton

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Bottom line is how stuff works.  Revereware doesn't.

Greg

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Hurst
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookware

well, if i think t-fal is a sad joke for morons, i'm certainly not going 
to
have nice things about revereware.  even back in the day, it was known 
that

only the lowest clss morons bought the stuff, the upper crust of moronia
always buying the now perhaps forgotten "farberware" instead

always silly to buy anything.  once you abandon the cast iron, you are 
just

a joke of modern consumerist society


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:


Agreed.  I have a Revereware tea kettle but that's about it.

Copper is too labor intensive to maintain and too easy to damage, IMHO.

Dan

On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> The RevereWare my sister bought my mother about 20 years ago stinks.
 Lids fit poorly, so things go dry unexepectedly, the copper is too
thin so they don't heat evenly, etc.  Better than the cheap junk I
bought in my 20's, but not something I'd search out.
>
> Belgique  (sp) at Target or Macy's (and some of the Martha Stewart
stuff) is better in my opinion.
>
> RevereWare from the 80s or eariler might be much better -- my sister
also has a set that is somewhat older, but better than Mom's.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] cookware

[Greg Fiorentino]

Bottom line is how stuff works.  Revereware doesn't.

Greg

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Hurst
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookware

well, if i think t-fal is a sad joke for morons, i'm certainly not going to
have nice things about revereware.  even back in the day, it was known that
only the lowest clss morons bought the stuff, the upper crust of moronia
always buying the now perhaps forgotten "farberware" instead

always silly to buy anything.  once you abandon the cast iron, you are just
a joke of modern consumerist society


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Agreed.  I have a Revereware tea kettle but that's about it.
>
> Copper is too labor intensive to maintain and too easy to damage, IMHO.
>
> Dan
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
>
> > The RevereWare my sister bought my mother about 20 years ago stinks.
>  Lids fit poorly, so things go dry unexepectedly, the copper is too 
> thin so they don't heat evenly, etc.  Better than the cheap junk I 
> bought in my 20's, but not something I'd search out.
> >
> > Belgique  (sp) at Target or Macy's (and some of the Martha Stewart
> stuff) is better in my opinion.
> >
> > RevereWare from the 80s or eariler might be much better -- my sister
> also has a set that is somewhat older, but better than Mom's.
> >
> > Peter
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Re: [MBZ] cookware

[Gary Hurst]

well, if i think t-fal is a sad joke for morons, i'm certainly not going to
have nice things about revereware.  even back in the day, it was known that
only the lowest clss morons bought the stuff, the upper crust of moronia
always buying the now perhaps forgotten "farberware" instead

always silly to buy anything.  once you abandon the cast iron, you are just
a joke of modern consumerist society


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Agreed.  I have a Revereware tea kettle but that's about it.
>
> Copper is too labor intensive to maintain and too easy to damage, IMHO.
>
> Dan
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
>
> > The RevereWare my sister bought my mother about 20 years ago stinks.
>  Lids fit poorly, so things go dry unexepectedly, the copper is too thin so
> they don't heat evenly, etc.  Better than the cheap junk I bought in my
> 20's, but not something I'd search out.
> >
> > Belgique  (sp) at Target or Macy's (and some of the Martha Stewart
> stuff) is better in my opinion.
> >
> > RevereWare from the 80s or eariler might be much better -- my sister
> also has a set that is somewhat older, but better than Mom's.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] cookware

[Dan Penoff]

Agreed.  I have a Revereware tea kettle but that's about it.

Copper is too labor intensive to maintain and too easy to damage, IMHO.

Dan

On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> The RevereWare my sister bought my mother about 20 years ago stinks.  Lids 
> fit poorly, so things go dry unexepectedly, the copper is too thin so they 
> don't heat evenly, etc.  Better than the cheap junk I bought in my 20's, but 
> not something I'd search out.
> 
> Belgique  (sp) at Target or Macy's (and some of the Martha Stewart stuff) is 
> better in my opinion.
> 
> RevereWare from the 80s or eariler might be much better -- my sister also has 
> a set that is somewhat older, but better than Mom's.
> 
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] cookware

[Peter Frederick]

The RevereWare my sister bought my mother about 20 years ago stinks.   
Lids fit poorly, so things go dry unexepectedly, the copper is too  
thin so they don't heat evenly, etc.  Better than the cheap junk I  
bought in my 20's, but not something I'd search out.


Belgique  (sp) at Target or Macy's (and some of the Martha Stewart  
stuff) is better in my opinion.


RevereWare from the 80s or eariler might be much better -- my sister  
also has a set that is somewhat older, but better than Mom's.


Peter

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[MBZ] 1982 300td continuing saga

[Rick Hawkins Java]

Folks,

i pulled the lift pump/fuel pump off of a junk 300d turbo

i took it all apart (with some difficulty) and ultrasonically cleaned  
it and re assembled it with new valves and springs and copper rings  
from a $13 ebay kit.


I installed it on the 300td yesterday along with a new Bosh primer  
pump ($12 delivered on ebay) REAL BOSCH


The car seems to run much better  still running mostly WVO with  
maybe 15% diesel as it gets colder.


I may have an oil  leak where it  seals to the injection pump  i  
used a new paper gasket with no sealer . should i have sealed it  
with something??


it looked pretty clean to me

Now i'll clean and rebuild the one from the car and watch if the oil  
leak does anything

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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[MBZ] cookware

[Rick Hawkins Java]

None of you mentioned Revere Ware

It's stainless with copper bottoms. My mother received a set at the  
time of my parent's marriage in 1953. I've been picking it up at  
thrift stores and yard sales ever since. The older stuff seems a  
little bit sturdier with regard to the handles.


You have to be careful not to burn stuff in it (cooking with gas  
flame) and i generally use Revere pots and sauce pans, but am not so  
much a fan of the frying pans. I tend to use cast iron frying pans and  
griddles.



thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[WILTON]

'Was stopped at same check point by county sheriff's deputies near the 
chicken processing plant yesterday afternoon; 'handed the officer the right 
card/license this time and was not so obviously profiled; officer stepped to 
rear of car to check plate for expiration, inspection, etc.  The 4 or 5 
deputies there had 6 or 7 civilian cars pulled off on the road shoulders. 
Evidently a lucrative site.


Wilton

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Profiled


Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a 
NC Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a curve 
from a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the flashing 
lights and the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my 
"license" ready as I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young 
black man in his immaculate uniform.  As I reached toward him with the 
card, and as he was  reaching for it, I realized that I was handing him my 
military ID card instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I was 
pulling it back to retrieve the right card and said, "Oh, I pulled out the 
wrong card."  He also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, you're 
alright, go ahead."


By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered 
such check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I 
had never seen that officer before.


If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check 
point, it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or any) 
Air Force or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show my 
license only very rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it more 
in the last 2 months out near that chicken plant than I have in many 
years.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Rich Thomas]

They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop.  In 
Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts 
and such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there.


--R

On 11/17/13 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Wouldn't you be concerned about cruft getting underneath and between over time?

Dan


On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:


What about those snap-down plastic tiles?  They come in many colors and look 
quite sturdy.

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 Crew Cab Ford F350 Turbo Diesel Auto w/ shiny extras $3500

[Michael Canfield]

Powerstroke IS an International engine as well.  Could be either in 94 but
looks like a Powerstroke badge on the side.

Mike
On Nov 17, 2013 12:05 AM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > Kevin wrote:
> >
> > If it's an 1994 turbo diesel with an automatic transmission, it's
> > most likely the IDI 7.3L turbo diesel. The power strokes in late
> > 94 or all equipped with five speed manny trannies.
>
> Ooh.  It did say "International engine", so, yea, probably a turbo
> IDI.  _Good_ engine.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Google maps sat photo

[rmassmann]

It is also fun to look at the old neighborhood were you grew up and see what 
changes have occurred to the homestead without actually having to drive 
there and see for yourself.


Robert Massmann
1995 E300D 186K miles
Oregonia, Ohio

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Subject: [MBZ] OT Google maps sat photo

A buddy of mine I have not spoken to for awhile sent me his contact
information, I looked up his address on google maps and zoomed in to his
house, I can see him on his back patio.  This is just too weird.

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[MBZ] Lionel was: Re: tire fixing

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 3:17 AM -0500 11/17/13, Gerry Archer wrote:


That's cool!  vehicle in the foreground looks like an old time streetcar
like I rode
many times during the 30s.


It's a 1950s vintage model of a Shore Fast Line car that ran between 
Atlantic City and Ocean City, NJ.


http://www.sjrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Shore_Fast_Line


Lionel trains seem to have gotten much bigger.
As a kid, my Lionel train set was much smaller.


Yep!  The new Lionel FastTrack has 36" and 48" diameter curves, as 
opposed to the old 027 and 031 curves.  :)


-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 Crew Cab Ford F350 Turbo Diesel Auto w/ shiny extras$3500

[WILTON]

This truck reminds me of my Air Force '77 Ford crew cab pickup with long bed 
in Greenland in '78.  That was a LONG truck; sometimes I felt that it needed 
hinges in the middle.


Wilton

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This one is not a power stroke is it?

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On Nov 16, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Fmiser  wrote:


Kaleb wrote:

Looks like this might be a decent deal

http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/4173601893.html


Yeah.

Almost what I'd like to have.  If it were two years older (not a
PowerStroke), manual transmission, and 4WD it would do nicely.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Dan Penoff]

Wouldn't you be concerned about cruft getting underneath and between over time?

Dan


On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> What about those snap-down plastic tiles?  They come in many colors and look 
> quite sturdy.
> 
> --R
> 


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[MBZ] Lorinser W124 Coupe, Anyone?

[Dan Penoff]

Just saw this on BW:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1799225-1988-300ce-lorinser-coupe.html#post6622865

The lack of working AC is a little scary on this model, but if you're into the 
Lorinser stuff it might be a nice catch.  Not my cup of tea, no personal 
interest, etc., etc.

The same guy as a nice finnie 190c for sale but he wants too much for it.  I 
talked to him about it but he has unrealistic expectations, not to mention it's 
all the way across the country

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Rich Thomas]

What about those snap-down plastic tiles?  They come in many colors and 
look quite sturdy.


--R


On 11/17/13 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year.  I
initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more
research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to.  I
considered tile and polish too.  I rejected polish due to the huge amount
of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars.
  There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are
involved.  Its huge.   I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have
it.

I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy
floor.  I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft.

Here are some photos of before, during, after:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/

So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of
jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily.  And it doesn't get
slippery when wet.  No regrets.

If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend
it.  I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now,
which was one of the main factors in my decision.

Jaime



On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM,  wrote:


I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about
having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me
$7 per square foot.  This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking
about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job.
Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors?

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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Dan Penoff]

Wow.  A three car garage with work space.

I hate you.



When we bought the "Momolith", as I named the behemoth place in Indy, there was 
going to be a good 2-3 weeks of work done before we could move in.  Amazingly, 
the garage floor was almost pristine, considering the original owners had lived 
in the house for 2-3 years before bailing.

I did a lot of research an ended up doing an epoxy finish using the Rustoleum 
products.  I spent a lot of time doing the prep, which, like anything else, is 
the key to getting good results.  This included an acid etch of the whole floor 
as well as borrowing a Blastrac scarifier from a dairy farm buddy to very 
lightly rough up the floor.

The Rustoleum product is a two part epoxy that you mix prior to application 
with a working time of about 2 hours, IIRC.  I also added some of the "sand" 
material to it as well, since cars would be in here with water and snow, making 
the finished floor like a skating rink otherwise.

All in all it worked out well and the end result was satisfactory.  I had one 
area where it lifted due to tire heat despite having cured for over a week.  I 
took pictures of this and sent a note to the Rustoleum people, who called me 
and discussed the possibilities for a fix.  They sent me some materials for 
free, which I used to fix the lifted area.  Second time must have been the key, 
as it was fine after that.  The new material blended well and was imperceptible 
as a fix after it cured.

I had a former fellow employee who's husband had a business that did poured 
epoxy floors, such as those that are used in commercial labs (his biggest 
customer was Eli Lilly.)  I tried to track him down to see if he could do my 
garage but I was never able to find him.  That would have been the way to go, 
but I'm sure it would have been expensive.

I think the DIY stuff is fine, but you have to make sure the surface is 
surgically clean for it to stick.  If there is any question about your ability 
to achieve this, leave it to a professional.



Dan

On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

> I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year.  I
> initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more
> research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to.  I
> considered tile and polish too.  I rejected polish due to the huge amount
> of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars.
> There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are
> involved.  Its huge.   I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have
> it.
> 
> I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy
> floor.  I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft.
> 
> Here are some photos of before, during, after:
> http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/
> 
> So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of
> jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily.  And it doesn't get
> slippery when wet.  No regrets.
> 
> If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend
> it.  I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now,
> which was one of the main factors in my decision.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

[Gerry Archer]

Thank you, Jim.  I might buy one since they have it at a 
low price in the local store.

Gerry


I have the HF manual tire changer.  POS, of course, but
you can actually change a tire with it.  Absolutely needs
to be nailed down, a pallet is a half-decent choice.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Jaime Kopchinski]

I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year.  I
initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more
research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to.  I
considered tile and polish too.  I rejected polish due to the huge amount
of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars.
 There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are
involved.  Its huge.   I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have
it.

I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy
floor.  I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft.

Here are some photos of before, during, after:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/

So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of
jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily.  And it doesn't get
slippery when wet.  No regrets.

If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend
it.  I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now,
which was one of the main factors in my decision.

Jaime



On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM,  wrote:

> I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about
> having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me
> $7 per square foot.  This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking
> about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job.
> Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors?
>
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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

[Jim Cathey]

I have the HF manual tire changer.  POS, of course, but
you can actually change a tire with it.  Absolutely needs
to be nailed down, a pallet is a half-decent choice.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Google maps sat photo

[Richard Hattaway]

Dan,
Spooky picture for sure.. The car door open is interesting, but if you go to 
the street view you can inspect the three bags of recycle and see the two white 
and one black garbage bags... The contents of that first recycle bag looks 
interesting.. h





On Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:49 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
 
Go to Google Maps and enter 1957 Cherry Tree Road, Avon, IN and zoom in on the 
house.  The asshats are tearing up the backyard putting an in-ground pool 
(great idea for someplace like Indianapolis!) and there are two people standing 
on the driveway just in front of the garage.

Note that there is a dark colored car in front of the house with the door open. 
Intelligent.

Dang, I miss that house

On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> Not sure how they would know unless they would use some sort of person 
> recognition.  My buddy is mostly recognizable as a white blob at the 
> resolution, but he is a big guy so that's gotta be him.  This is the 
> "low"-res stuff on google maps, imagine what the normal res stuff would show. 
>  I could probably read his tshirt.
> 
> On the pics of my Houston house (at least the older ones) I can see my fleet 
> parked around the house.  Kinda cool.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 11/16/13 3:15 PM, Craig wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:06:28 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> There is a Google maps sat photo of my former house in Indiana and
>>> there are two people standing out in the driveway.
>> In my looking around on Google Maps, I have never seen a person when the
>> satellite view was zoomed all the way in.
>> 
>> Have they changed things lately?
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete

[Richard Hattaway]

And also extremely slick.  Don't drive in at any speed out of a rainstorm 
unless you want a rear entrance in the garage (c:

The epoxy finishes are pretty good.  I am getting ready to do that in my garage 
as soon as all the other projects around here get done.  My wife wants the 
black and white checkerboard floor .. Hm





On Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:43 AM, "dsereta...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
Yes polishing is more expensive than the slab! They did a nice smooth job but 
epoxy is delicate and can chip and peel. A polished surface is permanent and 
beautiful. 

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Craig  wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about
>> having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted
>> me $7 per square foot.  This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore
>> thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type
>> of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors?
> 
> $7/square foot?! Just to polish?! I paid only $5/square foot for our 6"
> thick, fiber and mesh reinforced, 4000 psi concrete driveway.
> 
> BTW, why do you want it polished? Did the guy who placed it not give it a
> smooth surface? Would not putting down an epoxy finish (which is very
> much a DIY project) give you a nice finish?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

[Hans Neureiter]

I made it "portable" by bolting it to a 4'x4' sheet of 1/2" plywood with
carriage bolts and wing nuts..


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM, MG  wrote:

> I have had one of those "portable" tire changers for years and it works
> just fine. That's what used to be used to change tires for eons. Still
> works as long as you don't mind the work. Not too sure about the portable
> part as it does need to be fastened down to a concrete slab otherwise you
> aren't ever going to get anywhere. The portable tire balancer is also very
> nice as long as you remember to put the tire/wheel on there very gently. If
> you drop it too hard the pin that the balance cone rides on will break.
> That could just be a guess but...
>
> Manfred
>
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:44:07 -0500
> From: "Gerry Archer" 
>
>
>
> Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was
> possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that
> can
> change/balance modern tires.
> Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone tried it?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html
>
> Thanks,
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

[Gerry Archer]

Back in the '60s there were a number of research studies concerning the
toxicity of aluminum.  Aluminum cookware was eventually shown to be
safe but aluminum containing antacids, when taken in large quantities,
were not:

Snip..aluminum is not as toxic as heavy metals, but there is evidence
of some toxicity if it is consumed in excessive amounts.  Although the use
of aluminium cookware has not been shown to lead to aluminium toxicity in
general, excessive consumption of antacids containing aluminium compounds
and excessive use of aluminium-containing antiperspirants provide more
significant exposure levels.snip
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_poisoning#Health_concerns

Gerry


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:


I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware.  I have a bunch of it
in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day.
It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a "party" and
invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it.
 Also known as aluminum "waterless" cookware.
Heavy, heavy duty stuff.  Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I love
using it.



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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

[Gerry Archer]

I know the one you mean, Manfred.  I used it working at a service
station as a teenager.  The one I saw at HF was not nearly as 
heavy or sturdy as the commercial models, so I was think perhaps

someone on the list had bought one and had an opinion on it.
I agree that it would need to be fastened down considering the force
that must be applied.
Gerry

From: "MG" 
I have had one of those "portable" tire changers for years and it 
works just fine. That's what used to be used to change tires for 
eons. Still works as long as you don't mind the work. Not too 
sure about the portable part as it does need to be fastened down 
to a concrete slab otherwise you aren't ever going to get 
anywhere. The portable tire balancer is also very nice as long as 
you remember to put the tire/wheel on there very gently. If you 
drop it too hard the pin that the balance cone rides on will 
break. That could just be a guess but...


Manfred

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:44:07 -0500
From: "Gerry Archer" 


Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires 
when it was
possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY 
rig that can

change/balance modern tires.
Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone 
tried it?


http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html

Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

[Gerry Archer]

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Gerry Archer

Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was
possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that
can change/balance modern tires.
Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone tried
it?
http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html


Dunno about the tire changers, but their wheel weights work great in
Lionel
locomotives!
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10581441/
-MMM-


That's cool!  vehicle in the foreground looks like an old time streetcar
like I rode
many times during the 30s.  Lionel trains seem to have gotten much bigger.
As a kid, my Lionel train set was much smaller.
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

[Gerry Archer]

Beetle tires were easy to change with two tire irons.  Breaking the bead
loose could be difficult, though.  Breaking the bead on the newer,  wider
rims without a professional tire changer was nearly impossible.
Gerry

I changed a tire on my old VW bug once, about 1972.  Taught me that  
while you CAN do it, the proper tools are really very very nice and  
save lots of work.



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