[MBZ] Toyota supporting terrorism?

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[MBZ] OT House Painting

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Has anybody here used a high pressure sprayer to paint exterior or interior 
walls of a house? Just curious. I have some (a LOT) of painting to do, and I 
really don't relish the thought of using a roller and brushes. 

Well maybe I just want a new toy. 

Thoughts?  ‎

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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

but they wouldn't recharge on my generator which tended to run
outside the 57-63 Hz UPS threshold for OK power.


IIRC, that is a bit of an issue.  These things need a "Hey,
it's not _that_ bad" switch on them or something.  Shut up
and eat your electrons...

Ironically, I have the worst problem with Big Bertha.  Its
regulation is terrible.  I'm not sure what it is, I may
have something wrong that could be addressed, but we've
only used it a handful of times, after the power has been
down for days and it's time for hot showers, laundry, etc.
It works good enough for that, but the UPS's aren't buying
it.  "You call _that_ power?  My _kid_ could make better
power than that."

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Over-spray is the issue.  Inside you can cover / tape / hang plastic
curtains to protect what you don't want painted.  Outside, bad day if the
over-spray goes onto your neighbor's car or house or your car or whatever.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Has anybody here used a high pressure sprayer to paint exterior or
> interior walls of a house? Just curious. I have some (a LOT) of painting to
> do, and I really don't relish the thought of using a roller and brushes.
>
> Well maybe I just want a new toy.
>
> Thoughts?  ‎
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

In Jim's case, I don't think I'd want to compete against your kid in making
_anything_!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> but they wouldn't recharge on my generator which tended to run
>> outside the 57-63 Hz UPS threshold for OK power.
>>
>
> IIRC, that is a bit of an issue.  These things need a "Hey,
> it's not _that_ bad" switch on them or something.  Shut up
> and eat your electrons...
>
> Ironically, I have the worst problem with Big Bertha.  Its
> regulation is terrible.  I'm not sure what it is, I may
> have something wrong that could be addressed, but we've
> only used it a handful of times, after the power has been
> down for days and it's time for hot showers, laundry, etc.
> It works good enough for that, but the UPS's aren't buying
> it.  "You call _that_ power?  My _kid_ could make better
> power than that."
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Has anybody here used a high pressure sprayer to paint exterior or 
interior walls of a house? Just curious. I have some (a LOT) of 
painting to do, and I really don't relish the thought of using a 
roller and brushes.


I use one, I'd never go back.  Wagner 505?  Got it well-used at a
pawn shop years ago fro about $100 as I recall.  Wonderful tool.
I clean it with water (for latex) then run paint thinner through
it for storage.  It likes that.  Stored with water, it'll freeze
up and need drastic resurrection services each time.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Jim,

You shouldn't be seeing that kind of variation in frequency unless you're 
running really lightly loaded and/or your governor sensitivity isn't set 
properly.

That unit has a mechanical or "droop" governor. It should be set for around 
63Hz at no load, with 60Hz at full load. You can adjust it so you're at 60Hz at 
a lower load if that's where your total loads max out.

Not sure if it's in the budget, but it could be retrofitted for an electronic 
or "isochronous" governor for a few bucks. That keeps it dead nuts at 60Hz no 
load to full load.

Dan

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On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> but they wouldn't recharge on my generator which tended to run
>> outside the 57-63 Hz UPS threshold for OK power.
> 
> IIRC, that is a bit of an issue.  These things need a "Hey,
> it's not _that_ bad" switch on them or something.  Shut up
> and eat your electrons...
> 
> Ironically, I have the worst problem with Big Bertha.  Its
> regulation is terrible.  I'm not sure what it is, I may
> have something wrong that could be addressed, but we've
> only used it a handful of times, after the power has been
> down for days and it's time for hot showers, laundry, etc.
> It works good enough for that, but the UPS's aren't buying
> it.  "You call _that_ power?  My _kid_ could make better
> power than that."
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Spray is fine for inside if you mind the spray going where you don't 
want it.  But rollers put up paint pretty fast too, I can do a room in 
the time it would take to fool with a sprayer (and masking) on the front 
and back ends of a job.  The painters I have seen generally use them for 
trim, not the flat surfaces, to lay down a smooth finish.  Plus, 
depending on the sprayer and paint, you need to watch the viscosity of 
the paint to get a good spray, some paints are better for spraying than 
others and I'm sure that affects the coverage and longevity, etc.  The 
pros use oil-based paint for trim and tend to use lacquer thinner for 
getting a good spray, finish, and a fast dry, which causes lots of other 
concerns.


Outside they are no good, you need to work the paint into whatever 
you're painting if you want it to hold up.  Or spray and back brush after.


A good paint job is all about the preparation anyway, the actual 
painting part is a small part of the job.


But, YMMV

--R



On 10/7/15 9:47 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Has anybody here used a high pressure sprayer to paint exterior or interior 
walls of a house? Just curious. I have some (a LOT) of painting to do, and I 
really don't relish the thought of using a roller and brushes.

Well maybe I just want a new toy.

Thoughts?  ‎

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota supporting terrorism?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

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Toada has long been the vehicle of choice for ter rorsts and thugs.

Just another reason why friends don't let friends drive toadas.



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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I painted the inlaw's house with a bulk sprayer a couple years ago.

Single story block house, aluminum fascia and soffits, nothing else unusual 
about it.

Spent a day masking, about 3-4 hours painting. A big piece of cardboard was 
carried around to mask against soffit and windows as I moved around. I've seen 
professional painters use a piece of Masonite with a long handle to do the same.

Works great, goes fast, uses a lot more paint than rollering but that's moot 
compared to the time savings, I think.

My house is getting painted this month, but not by me. Too complex. I could do 
the exterior walls pretty easy, but all the nooks and crannies along with the 
gables would take a long time and require ladders/scaffolding I don't have. 
Better left to a professional.

Dan

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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Over-spray is the issue.  Inside you can cover / tape / hang plastic
> curtains to protect what you don't want painted.  Outside, bad day if the
> over-spray goes onto your neighbor's car or house or your car or whatever.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Has anybody here used a high pressure sprayer to paint exterior or
>> interior walls of a house? Just curious. I have some (a LOT) of painting to
>> do, and I really don't relish the thought of using a roller and brushes.
>> 
>> Well maybe I just want a new toy.
>> 
>> Thoughts?  ‎
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota supporting terrorism?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have always wanted a diesel HiLux 4x4 with a 30cal or an anti-aircraft 
gun welded in the back, white of course with the UN markings still on 
it, coupla skinnies in back manning the armaments and waving RPG 
launchers around.  I'd need some ISIS flags to put on the back corners 
of the bed too, and some mismatched camo uniforms to wear.  allahahuwa 
akbar!


--R



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Toada has long been the vehicle of choice for ter rorsts and thugs.

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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Has anybody here used a high pressure sprayer to paint exterior or 
interior walls of a house? Just curious. I have some (a LOT) of 
painting to do, and I really don't relish the thought of using a 
roller and brushes.


Well maybe I just want a new toy.

Thoughts?  


Rick
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I used an "airless" sprayer to paint a 24 x 44 house and a 20? x 30? garage.

Buy new 5 gal buckets of paint, and never dump anything back into the 
paint you intend to spray.  That way you don't get many clogs, 
assuming the paint was either shaken well when you bought it or 
stirred thoroughly before you use it.


When I got down to the end, I had to go to town and buy a couple of 
gallons to finish the second coat.  That can be poured over into the 
5 gal bucket or sucked up directly from the gallon can.


As with any painting, the prep takes 2-4 times longer than the painting.

I use zinzser 123 primer.  It sticks well to anything, including your 
skin.  Ace Royal house paint.


Snears  weathereater used to be good.  I don't know about now.

It has been probably 10 years now since I painted it and the paint 
has held up well.


I'll loan you the sprayer if you want to pay freight, or I may be in 
chi Oct 20-21, and we could meet to get it to you.  I have a friend 
in Chi where you could drop it off later.  He is in west burbs, but 
not as far out as Dan.



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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

You need a "buck booster" in between.  basically regulates the power 
supply.  takes crappy  waves and makes nice sine waves.


Had that problem with helco in Hawaii.  had to use a buck booster 
between the building power and electronics not designed to handle 
turd world power utilities.




but they wouldn't recharge on my generator which tended to run
outside the 57-63 Hz UPS threshold for OK power.


IIRC, that is a bit of an issue.  These things need a "Hey,
it's not _that_ bad" switch on them or something.  Shut up
and eat your electrons...

Ironically, I have the worst problem with Big Bertha.  Its
regulation is terrible.  I'm not sure what it is, I may
have something wrong that could be addressed, but we've
only used it a handful of times, after the power has been
down for days and it's time for hot showers, laundry, etc.
It works good enough for that, but the UPS's aren't buying
it.  "You call _that_ power?  My _kid_ could make better
power than that."

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Jim,

You shouldn't be seeing that kind of variation in frequency unless 
you're running really lightly loaded and/or your governor 
sensitivity isn't set properly.


That unit has a mechanical or "droop" governor. It should be set for 
around 63Hz at no load, with 60Hz at full load. You can adjust it so 
you're at 60Hz at a lower load if that's where your total loads max 
out.


Not sure if it's in the budget, but it could be retrofitted for an 
electronic or "isochronous" governor for a few bucks. That keeps it 
dead nuts at 60Hz no load to full load.


Dan

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"Da Man" has spoken!  that's a better idea than a buck booster.  But 
when you are stuck with turd world utilities, the buck booster is 
about your only choice.


What I saw in Africa was that the utility was only good for 
resistance heating.  Way too much fluctuation in every parameter for 
most equip.  One place, a mill,  had enough dead 'lectric motors 
piled up to fill several shipping containers.


Mostly Deutsch or Italian motors, and those like "clean" sine waves. 
THey tend not to fare well with dirty wave forms.


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Re: [MBZ] Toyota supporting terrorism?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds like a great Halloween float!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have always wanted a diesel HiLux 4x4 with a 30cal or an anti-aircraft
> gun welded in the back, white of course with the UN markings still on it,
> coupla skinnies in back manning the armaments and waving RPG launchers
> around.  I'd need some ISIS flags to put on the back corners of the bed
> too, and some mismatched camo uniforms to wear.  allahahuwa akbar!
>
> --R
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Jim's issue is due to variations in the engine speed. No buck/boost transformer 
will fix that.

He needs to get the sensitivity ("gain") on the governor adjusted properly, 
from the way things sound. A well adjusted mechanical governor shouldn't vary 
more than 3Hz at load changes, and that would be heavy loads. If it does, 
something is not adjusted properly or he's got fuel system issues.

The sine waves won't be bad from this machine. The problem is frequency 
variation, which a lot of modern devices (UPSs' included) won't tolerate. Go 
outside of the window of acceptance and they go offline.

Even more common with commercial units, as they want to keep the duty cycle as 
low as possible on the inverters, so they'll have a really narrow window of 
acceptance for frequency that makes them not like anything that's less stable 
than utility power.

Big issue in my former line of work. Often required that we force the UPSs' 
frequency window to be opened up when on standby power. A lot of commercial 
UPSs' have an input that tells them to open up the frequency acceptance when a 
dry contact signal is present.

Dan

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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You need a "buck booster" in between.  basically regulates the power supply.  
> takes crappy  waves and makes nice sine waves.
> 
> Had that problem with helco in Hawaii.  had to use a buck booster between the 
> building power and electronics not designed to handle turd world power 
> utilities.
> 
> 
>>> but they wouldn't recharge on my generator which tended to run
>>> outside the 57-63 Hz UPS threshold for OK power.
>> 
>> IIRC, that is a bit of an issue.  These things need a "Hey,
>> it's not _that_ bad" switch on them or something.  Shut up
>> and eat your electrons...
>> 
>> Ironically, I have the worst problem with Big Bertha.  Its
>> regulation is terrible.  I'm not sure what it is, I may
>> have something wrong that could be addressed, but we've
>> only used it a handful of times, after the power has been
>> down for days and it's time for hot showers, laundry, etc.
>> It works good enough for that, but the UPS's aren't buying
>> it.  "You call _that_ power?  My _kid_ could make better
>> power than that."
>> 
>> -- Jim
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[MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

4. Renewables throw down: Wind competitive with coal, solar creeping up

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This year has brought a significant shift in the generating cost comparison
between renewable energy and fossil fuels.


Credit: ggyykk

In some parts of the world, onshore wind energy has become fully
competitive with gas and coal, and solar is closing the gap, according to a
levelized cost of electricity (LCOE) analysis for the second half of 2015
by Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF).

Levelized costs take into account not just the cost of generating a
marginal megawatt-hour of electricity, but also the upfront capital and
development expense, the cost of equity and debt finance, and operating and
maintenance fees.

The Bloomberg analysis shows that while onshore wind and crystalline
silicon photovoltaics -- the two most widespread renewable technologies --
have both reduced costs this year, costs have gone up for gas- and
coal-fired generation.

In fact, the global average LCOE for onshore wind fell from $85 per
megawatt-hour in the first half of the year to $83 in the second half while
crystalline silicon PV solar fell from $129 to $122, according to the
report.

At the same time, the LCOE for coal-fired generation increased from $66 per
MWh to $75 in the Americas, $68 to $73 in Asia-Pacific, and $82 to $105 in
Europe; the LCOE for combined-cycle gas turbine generation rose from $76 to
$82 in the Americas, $85 to $93 in Asia-Pacific and $103 to $118 in Europe,
Middle East and Africa (EMEA).

"Our report shows wind and solar power continuing to get cheaper in 2015,
helped by cheaper technology but also by lower finance costs," said Seb
Henbest, head of EMEA, Bloomberg New Energy Finance. "Meanwhile, coal and
gas have gotten more expensive on the back of lower utilization rates, and
in Europe, higher carbon price assumptions following passage of the Market
Stability Reserve reform."

Among other low-carbon energy technologies, offshore wind reduced its
global average LCOE from $176 per MWh to $174, but still remains
significantly more expensive than wind, solar PV, coal or gas, according to
BNEF, while biomass incineration saw its levelized cost stay steady at $134
per MWh. Nuclear, like coal and gas, has very different LCOE levels from
one region to another, but both the Americas and the Europe, Middle East
and Africa region saw increases in levelized costs to $261 and $158 per
MWh, respectively.

"Generating costs continue to vary greatly from region to region,
reflecting influences such as the shale gas boom in the US, changing
utilization rates in areas of high renewables penetration, the shortage of
local gas production in East Asia, carbon prices in Europe, differing
regulations on nuclear power across the world, and contrasting resources
for solar generation," said Luke Mills, BNEF analyst of energy economics.
"But onshore wind and solar PV are both now much more competitive against
the established generation technologies than would have seemed possible
only five or 10 years ago."

Among the country-level findings, onshore wind is now fully
cost-competitive with both gas-fired and coal-fired generation, once carbon
costs are taken into account, in the UK and Germany. In the UK, onshore
wind comes in on average at $85 per MWh in the second half of 2015 compared
to $115 for combined-cycle gas and $115 for coal-fired power; in Germany,
onshore wind is at $80 compared to $118 for gas and $106 for coal.

In China, onshore wind is cheaper than gas-fired power at $77 per MWh
versus $113, but much more expensive than coal-generated electricity at
$44, while solar PV power is at $109. In the United States, coal and gas
are still cheaper at $65 per MWh versus onshore wind at $80 and PV at $107.

"In the U.S., we've known that wind energy can be cheaper than gas in some
states, but solar is now inching toward that same milestone," said
Jacqueline Lilinshtein, BNEF U.S. analyst. "It's surprising how much the
cost of utility-scale solar PV has dropped in the US. It's now ~$50 per
megawatt hour if you include federal subsidies. Six months ago, it was $60,
so that's a pretty significant drop. We attribute this to lower
installation and equipment costs fueled by increased competition to build
before federal subsidies expire."

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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Curly writes:

>I'll loan you the sprayer if you >want to pay freight, or I may be in 
>chi Oct 20-21, and we could meet >to get it to you.

>but 
>not as far out as Dan.

Thanks for the offer, and yeah, Dan is pretty far out there...
‎
We should have a Chi town coffee clotch or something. Invite Luther, Deneal, 
Mao, Darren, maybe Todd can show.

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[MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe also
a sawzall.

Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is better).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Federal Subsidies:  A scheme by which you use electricity today with the
cost being pushed forward to be paid by yet unborn citizens.

In legal principle, a contract of adhesion. Specifically named as a
violation of the Constitution of USA.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> 4. Renewables throw down: Wind competitive with coal, solar creeping up
> 
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> between renewable energy and fossil fuels.
> 
>
> Credit: ggyykk
>
> In some parts of the world, onshore wind energy has become fully
> competitive with gas and coal, and solar is closing the gap, according to a
> levelized cost of electricity (LCOE) analysis for the second half of 2015
> by Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF).
>
> Levelized costs take into account not just the cost of generating a
> marginal megawatt-hour of electricity, but also the upfront capital and
> development expense, the cost of equity and debt finance, and operating and
> maintenance fees.
>
> The Bloomberg analysis shows that while onshore wind and crystalline
> silicon photovoltaics -- the two most widespread renewable technologies --
> have both reduced costs this year, costs have gone up for gas- and
> coal-fired generation.
>
> In fact, the global average LCOE for onshore wind fell from $85 per
> megawatt-hour in the first half of the year to $83 in the second half while
> crystalline silicon PV solar fell from $129 to $122, according to the
> report.
>
> At the same time, the LCOE for coal-fired generation increased from $66 per
> MWh to $75 in the Americas, $68 to $73 in Asia-Pacific, and $82 to $105 in
> Europe; the LCOE for combined-cycle gas turbine generation rose from $76 to
> $82 in the Americas, $85 to $93 in Asia-Pacific and $103 to $118 in Europe,
> Middle East and Africa (EMEA).
>
> "Our report shows wind and solar power continuing to get cheaper in 2015,
> helped by cheaper technology but also by lower finance costs," said Seb
> Henbest, head of EMEA, Bloomberg New Energy Finance. "Meanwhile, coal and
> gas have gotten more expensive on the back of lower utilization rates, and
> in Europe, higher carbon price assumptions following passage of the Market
> Stability Reserve reform."
>
> Among other low-carbon energy technologies, offshore wind reduced its
> global average LCOE from $176 per MWh to $174, but still remains
> significantly more expensive than wind, solar PV, coal or gas, according to
> BNEF, while biomass incineration saw its levelized cost stay steady at $134
> per MWh. Nuclear, like coal and gas, has very different LCOE levels from
> one region to another, but both the Americas and the Europe, Middle East
> and Africa region saw increases in levelized costs to $261 and $158 per
> MWh, respectively.
>
> "Generating costs continue to vary greatly from region to region,
> reflecting influences such as the shale gas boom in the US, changing
> utilization rates in areas of high renewables penetration, the shortage of
> local gas production in East Asia, carbon prices in Europe, differing
> regulations on nuclear power across the world, and contrasting resources
> for solar generation," said Luke Mills, BNEF analyst of energy economics.
> "But onshore wind and solar PV are both now much more competitive against
> the established generation technologies than would have seemed possible
> only five or 10 years ago."
>
> Among the country-level findings, onshore wind is now fully
> cost-competitive with both gas-fired and coal-fired generation, once carbon
> costs are taken into account, in the UK and Germany. In the UK, onshore
> wind comes in on average at $85 per MWh in the second half of 2015 compared
> to $115 for combined-cycle gas and $115 for coal-fired power; in Germany,
> onshore wind is at $80 compared to $118 for gas and $106 for coal.
>
> In China, onshore wind is cheaper than gas-fired power at $77 per MWh
> versus $113, but much more expensive than coal-generated electricity at
> $44, while solar PV power is at $109. In the United States, coal and gas
> are still cheaper at $65 per MWh versus onshore wind at $80 and PV at $107.
>
> "In the U.S., we've known that wind energy can be cheaper than gas in some
> state

Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Don't forget - oil and gas get $$billions in tax breaks

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:47 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Federal Subsidies:  A scheme by which you use electricity today with the
> cost being pushed forward to be paid by yet unborn citizens.
>
> In legal principle, a contract of adhesion. Specifically named as a
> violation of the Constitution of USA.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 4. Renewables throw down: Wind competitive with coal, solar creeping up
> > 
> >  By Barbara Vergetis Lundin
> >  Comment
> >  |
> > Forward
> >  |
> > Twitter
> >  |
> > Facebook
> >  |
> > LinkedIn
> > 
> >
> > This year has brought a significant shift in the generating cost
> comparison
> > between renewable energy and fossil fuels.
> > 
> >
> > Credit: ggyykk
> >
> > In some parts of the world, onshore wind energy has become fully
> > competitive with gas and coal, and solar is closing the gap, according
> to a
> > levelized cost of electricity (LCOE) analysis for the second half of 2015
> > by Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF).
> >
> > Levelized costs take into account not just the cost of generating a
> > marginal megawatt-hour of electricity, but also the upfront capital and
> > development expense, the cost of equity and debt finance, and operating
> and
> > maintenance fees.
> >
> > The Bloomberg analysis shows that while onshore wind and crystalline
> > silicon photovoltaics -- the two most widespread renewable technologies
> --
> > have both reduced costs this year, costs have gone up for gas- and
> > coal-fired generation.
> >
> > In fact, the global average LCOE for onshore wind fell from $85 per
> > megawatt-hour in the first half of the year to $83 in the second half
> while
> > crystalline silicon PV solar fell from $129 to $122, according to the
> > report.
> >
> > At the same time, the LCOE for coal-fired generation increased from $66
> per
> > MWh to $75 in the Americas, $68 to $73 in Asia-Pacific, and $82 to $105
> in
> > Europe; the LCOE for combined-cycle gas turbine generation rose from $76
> to
> > $82 in the Americas, $85 to $93 in Asia-Pacific and $103 to $118 in
> Europe,
> > Middle East and Africa (EMEA).
> >
> > "Our report shows wind and solar power continuing to get cheaper in 2015,
> > helped by cheaper technology but also by lower finance costs," said Seb
> > Henbest, head of EMEA, Bloomberg New Energy Finance. "Meanwhile, coal and
> > gas have gotten more expensive on the back of lower utilization rates,
> and
> > in Europe, higher carbon price assumptions following passage of the
> Market
> > Stability Reserve reform."
> >
> > Among other low-carbon energy technologies, offshore wind reduced its
> > global average LCOE from $176 per MWh to $174, but still remains
> > significantly more expensive than wind, solar PV, coal or gas, according
> to
> > BNEF, while biomass incineration saw its levelized cost stay steady at
> $134
> > per MWh. Nuclear, like coal and gas, has very different LCOE levels from
> > one region to another, but both the Americas and the Europe, Middle East
> > and Africa region saw increases in levelized costs to $261 and $158 per
> > MWh, respectively.
> >
> > "Generating costs continue to vary greatly from region to region,
> > reflecting influences such as the shale gas boom in the US, changing
> > utilization rates in areas of high renewables penetration, the shortage
> of
> > local gas production in East Asia, carbon prices in Europe, differing
> > regulations on nuclear power across the world, and contrasting resources
> > for solar generation," said Luke Mills, BNEF analyst of energy economics.
> > "But onshore wind and solar PV are both now much more competitive against
> > the established generation technologies than would have seemed possible
> > only five or 10 years ago."
> >
> > Among the country-level findings, onshore wind is now fully
> > cost-competitive with both gas-fired and coal-fired generation, once
> carbon
> > costs are taken into account, in the UK and Germany. In the UK, onshore
> > wind comes in on average at $85 per MWh in the second half of 2015
> compared
> > to $115 for combined-cycle gas and $115 for coal-fired power; in Germany,
> > onshore wind is at $80 compared to $118 for gas and $106 for coal.
> >
> > In China, onshore wind is cheaper than gas-fired power at

Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have had good results with my DeWalt stuff, none battery-powered, but 
I bought a Ridgid drill and driver with "lifetime" lithium batteries (I 
know...) that I have been pleased with.  I think they have other tools 
that use the same batteries like a recip saw and circ saw and whatnot.


Keep an eye out, DeWalt runs bundle specials every now and then, 
probably closer to Christmas, where you can get a whole set of tools, or 
buy 2 pick another one, for a reasonable price.


Milwaukee I think is overpriced for decent stuff.  Makita I would 
avoid.  I have had good luck with Bosch stuff, very well built and the 
lithium batteries in my small stuff have been great.


Or you could go cheeepcheep with HF, get a warranty, and use them and 
get new ones when they crap out if you want the hassle.


I use my tools a lot, don't abuse them, but they get solid use.

--R

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I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe also
a sawzall.

Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is better).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you're talking Sawzall, Milwaukee.

DeWalt makes some good stuff, but if you walk around a construction site you're 
going to see lots of Milwaukee products.

Dan

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe also
> a sawzall.
> 
> Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
> person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
> brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is better).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Go to harbor freight

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe also
> a sawzall.
> 
> Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
> person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
> brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is better).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[G Mann via Mercedes]

With any battery power tool, invest in at least 2 extra batteries.
As soon as the tool starts to slow down, stab in a fresh charged battery
and put the tired one on charge. Your batteries will last much longer if
you do not pull them to "dead flat charge" repeatedly, and your projects
will get done timely having a fresh charge battery instantly available.

My experience.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If you're talking Sawzall, Milwaukee.
>
> DeWalt makes some good stuff, but if you walk around a construction site
> you're going to see lots of Milwaukee products.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe
> also
> > a sawzall.
> >
> > Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
> > person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
> > brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is
> better).
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota supporting terrorism?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 9:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/us-officials-ask-isis-got-many-toyota-trucks-175832211--abc-news-topstories.html 



Toada has long been the vehicle of choice for ter rorsts and thugs.

Just another reason why friends don't let friends drive toadas.



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In the USA (at least in the movies) the high class thugs usually drove 
(or were driven around in)  Lincolns or Cadillacs.
Somehow, I don't see that being carried forward now that there are no 
big Lincolns etc.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:47:32 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Federal Subsidies:  A scheme by which you use electricity today with the
> cost being pushed forward to be paid by yet unborn citizens.
> 
> In legal principle, a contract of adhesion. Specifically named as a
> violation of the Constitution of USA.

And it still doesn't address the situation where the sun stops shining or
the wind stops blowing.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota supporting terrorism?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks for the great idea for our next machine gun shoot here.. As a remote
control target.

For those who don't know if it.. it's a regular event held 3 times a year
at a remote range set aside for only this event..

Here is a link to a video from previous event.. [BTW... it usually runs 3
days and ammunition cost for each day runs an estimated 1.5 million
dollars, all private money]... This is where the big boys with big wallets
come to play...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8I5ADd4Mk

Caution: This video shows privately owned and properly licensed machine
guns being used by responsible adults for sporting purpose. If you have
Hoplophobia discretion is advised.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a great Halloween float!
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have always wanted a diesel HiLux 4x4 with a 30cal or an anti-aircraft
> > gun welded in the back, white of course with the UN markings still on it,
> > coupla skinnies in back manning the armaments and waving RPG launchers
> > around.  I'd need some ISIS flags to put on the back corners of the bed
> > too, and some mismatched camo uniforms to wear.  allahahuwa akbar!
> >
> > --R
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 10:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe also
a sawzall.

Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is better).
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Do you have any battey powered tools now? A drill etc?
If so, and if the same company makes a sawsall, then buy the one that 
will use the same battery as your existing tool(s).
Batteries don't last all that long in my experience so when you have to 
buy new batteries, it is nice if they fit more than one tool.


I have had reasonable luck with Ryobi tools. Not high end stuff by they 
have worked ok for me so far.
I have a sawsall, a couple of drills, a couple of impact drivers and a 
random orbit sander that all use the same batteries.


One thing to watch out for, in my opinion, is the speed at which you can 
re-charge a battery. I bought a no-name drill on a good sale from a 
local FLAPS type store a few years back (Canadian Tire) and have 
regretted it ever since. It takes hours to recharge a battery which 
makes it a real pain to use.


None of my battery tools use the new fancier batteries that are supposed 
to last longer - lithium-ion?


I am not a tradesman and don't need the high end stuff most of the time.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe also
a sawzall.

Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is better).


I have the dewalt recip saw.  I also have a corded Milw. Sawzall, and 
it is the cats meow for heavy work.  It is the original, and still 
the best.  They sell a cheaper corded sawzall now, but this is the 
one that is around $200 or $179 on sale around here.  Stronger and 
more long lasting than the ones that are $139 on sale.


I am quite happy with the dewalt fake sawzall. It is light, and I 
find for most things I grab it and a battery or two and go.  I had 
the dewalt drill/driver with 2 batteries and a charger, so I am all 
dewalt for cordless.
I bought a 12" tree trim blade and I use it mostly with the cordless 
to cut small downed limbs and whatnot.  Anything serious and I'd grab 
the Stihl or the milw. Sawzall.


Any home despot/lowes has dewalt, so it is easy to find 
service/accessories.   Often on sale/kits etc. so all my battery 
stuff is dewalt.  Son has milw. cordless drill.


IMHO, I think Milwaukee in general, is the best, but you pay more. 
For my occasional use, the dewalt consumer grade stuff is ok.  I have 
a Milw, corded hammerdrill, and it is what I grab for serious stuff.


No experience with makita, except the original 4" grinder, and that 
is//was the cats meow for small grinders.  (original and maybe still 
the best, but most pros use dewalt now.)





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Re: [MBZ] Toyota supporting terrorism?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Toada has long been the vehicle of choice for ter rorsts and thugs.

Just another reason why friends don't let friends drive toadas.



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In the USA (at least in the movies) the high class thugs usually 
drove (or were driven around in)  Lincolns or Cadillacs.
Somehow, I don't see that being carried forward now that there are 
no big Lincolns etc.


RB


I was not talkin usa.  I was talking global.  Every turd world despot 
I have seen (not as much as Grant, Scott, Dan, et al) the guys with 
the machine guns (mostly ak 4 7) are in the back of a toada pickup.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 11:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, 
maybe also

a sawzall.

Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is 
better).


I have the dewalt recip saw.  I also have a corded Milw. Sawzall, and 
it is the cats meow for heavy work.  It is the original, and still the 
best.  They sell a cheaper corded sawzall now, but this is the one 
that is around $200 or $179 on sale around here. Stronger and more 
long lasting than the ones that are $139 on sale.


I am quite happy with the dewalt fake sawzall. It is light, and I find 
for most things I grab it and a battery or two and go.  I had the 
dewalt drill/driver with 2 batteries and a charger, so I am all dewalt 
for cordless.
I bought a 12" tree trim blade and I use it mostly with the cordless 
to cut small downed limbs and whatnot.  Anything serious and I'd grab 
the Stihl or the milw. Sawzall.


Any home despot/lowes has dewalt, so it is easy to find 
service/accessories.   Often on sale/kits etc. so all my battery stuff 
is dewalt.  Son has milw. cordless drill.


IMHO, I think Milwaukee in general, is the best, but you pay more. For 
my occasional use, the dewalt consumer grade stuff is ok.  I have a 
Milw, corded hammerdrill, and it is what I grab for serious stuff.


No experience with makita, except the original 4" grinder, and that 
is//was the cats meow for small grinders.  (original and maybe still 
the best, but most pros use dewalt now.)





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I think there are different grades of Makita. Not sure but I have a 
couple of Makita items that are great but I also had a cordless drill 
kit purchased from Canadian Tire that was junk. Not sure, but suspect 
that Makita makes some stuff for the cheaper stores that is not up to 
its historical standards.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I had a NiCd Milwaukee drill battery blow up on me while I was about 
20ft up a ladder, not fun.  Later they recalled all their batteries.  
NiCd batteries are crap, I like the drill but quit replacing batteries.  
Lithium batteries can stay on the charger as they have a circuit to 
control the charge, and they apparently don't suffer from being topped 
off between uses.  I have some Bosch lithium batteries I have had for 
maybe 9 years now, still going strong and I use them very often in a 
drill and driver.


Anything with lithiums these days should provide good service, but the 
batteries are spendy, at least Ridgid says they are guaranteed. They 
tend to charge pretty quickly too, and don't seem to lose charge just 
sitting around.  I will assume Andrew will be using his tools 
infrequently so will probably not be doing a lot of recharges on the 
batteries, or even draining them much, so I would suggest putting them 
on the charger after use and keeping them topped off.


--R



On 10/7/15 12:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, 
maybe also

a sawzall.

Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is 
better).


I have the dewalt recip saw.  I also have a corded Milw. Sawzall, and 
it is the cats meow for heavy work.  It is the original, and still the 
best.  They sell a cheaper corded sawzall now, but this is the one 
that is around $200 or $179 on sale around here. Stronger and more 
long lasting than the ones that are $139 on sale.


I am quite happy with the dewalt fake sawzall. It is light, and I find 
for most things I grab it and a battery or two and go.  I had the 
dewalt drill/driver with 2 batteries and a charger, so I am all dewalt 
for cordless.
I bought a 12" tree trim blade and I use it mostly with the cordless 
to cut small downed limbs and whatnot.  Anything serious and I'd grab 
the Stihl or the milw. Sawzall.


Any home despot/lowes has dewalt, so it is easy to find 
service/accessories.   Often on sale/kits etc. so all my battery stuff 
is dewalt.  Son has milw. cordless drill.


IMHO, I think Milwaukee in general, is the best, but you pay more. For 
my occasional use, the dewalt consumer grade stuff is ok.  I have a 
Milw, corded hammerdrill, and it is what I grab for serious stuff.


No experience with makita, except the original 4" grinder, and that 
is//was the cats meow for small grinders.  (original and maybe still 
the best, but most pros use dewalt now.)





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

1. Battery storage.
2. You wheel in power from somewhere else where there's a surplus via
transmission lines


On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:47:32 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Federal Subsidies:  A scheme by which you use electricity today with the
> > cost being pushed forward to be paid by yet unborn citizens.
> >
> > In legal principle, a contract of adhesion. Specifically named as a
> > violation of the Constitution of USA.
>
> And it still doesn't address the situation where the sun stops shining or
> the wind stops blowing.
>
>
> Craig
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[MBZ] Sleeper W123 Wagon

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://boostcontrol.net/pagani-7-3l-v12-engine-swap-into-mercedes-w123-wagon/

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I bought a $99 Ryobi rechargeable (45 mins.) leaf  blower from Home Despot
that is really sweet.

Five years ago I purchased a couple Makita cordless drills with the older
batteries that take awhile to charge, but are quite powerful for a decent
amount of time before they poop out.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I had a NiCd Milwaukee drill battery blow up on me while I was about 20ft
> up a ladder, not fun.  Later they recalled all their batteries.  NiCd
> batteries are crap, I like the drill but quit replacing batteries.  Lithium
> batteries can stay on the charger as they have a circuit to control the
> charge, and they apparently don't suffer from being topped off between
> uses.  I have some Bosch lithium batteries I have had for maybe 9 years
> now, still going strong and I use them very often in a drill and driver.
>
> Anything with lithiums these days should provide good service, but the
> batteries are spendy, at least Ridgid says they are guaranteed. They tend
> to charge pretty quickly too, and don't seem to lose charge just sitting
> around.  I will assume Andrew will be using his tools infrequently so will
> probably not be doing a lot of recharges on the batteries, or even draining
> them much, so I would suggest putting them on the charger after use and
> keeping them topped off.
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 10/7/15 12:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe
>>> also
>>> a sawzall.
>>>
>>> Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
>>> person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
>>> brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is
>>> better).
>>>
>>
>> I have the dewalt recip saw.  I also have a corded Milw. Sawzall, and it
>> is the cats meow for heavy work.  It is the original, and still the best.
>> They sell a cheaper corded sawzall now, but this is the one that is around
>> $200 or $179 on sale around here. Stronger and more long lasting than the
>> ones that are $139 on sale.
>>
>> I am quite happy with the dewalt fake sawzall. It is light, and I find
>> for most things I grab it and a battery or two and go.  I had the dewalt
>> drill/driver with 2 batteries and a charger, so I am all dewalt for
>> cordless.
>> I bought a 12" tree trim blade and I use it mostly with the cordless to
>> cut small downed limbs and whatnot.  Anything serious and I'd grab the
>> Stihl or the milw. Sawzall.
>>
>> Any home despot/lowes has dewalt, so it is easy to find
>> service/accessories.   Often on sale/kits etc. so all my battery stuff is
>> dewalt.  Son has milw. cordless drill.
>>
>> IMHO, I think Milwaukee in general, is the best, but you pay more. For my
>> occasional use, the dewalt consumer grade stuff is ok.  I have a Milw,
>> corded hammerdrill, and it is what I grab for serious stuff.
>>
>> No experience with makita, except the original 4" grinder, and that
>> is//was the cats meow for small grinders.  (original and maybe still the
>> best, but most pros use dewalt now.)
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Sleeper W123 Wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sick, sick, sick.

Where can I get one?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Watch AVE on YouTube, he takes 'em apart and sees whats actually inside. A 
Dewilt 20v battery for instance is 18v inside...
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws
   
If you're talking Sawzall, Milwaukee.

DeWalt makes some good stuff, but if you walk around a construction site you're 
going to see lots of Milwaukee products.

Dan

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe also
> a sawzall.
> 
> Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
> person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
> brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is better).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Andrew sez:   When the wind ain't blowin or the sun ain't showin, use


1. Battery storage.


Ja, das ist real ökonomisch (economical) und Grün (green)




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 11:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe also
a sawzall.

Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is better).


I have the dewalt recip saw.  I also have a corded Milw. Sawzall, 
and it is the cats meow for heavy work.  It is the original, and 
still the best.  They sell a cheaper corded sawzall now, but this 
is the one that is around $200 or $179 on sale around here. 
Stronger and more long lasting than the ones that are $139 on sale.


I am quite happy with the dewalt fake sawzall. It is light, and I 
find for most things I grab it and a battery or two and go.  I had 
the dewalt drill/driver with 2 batteries and a charger, so I am all 
dewalt for cordless.
I bought a 12" tree trim blade and I use it mostly with the 
cordless to cut small downed limbs and whatnot.  Anything serious 
and I'd grab the Stihl or the milw. Sawzall.


Any home despot/lowes has dewalt, so it is easy to find 
service/accessories.   Often on sale/kits etc. so all my battery 
stuff is dewalt.  Son has milw. cordless drill.


IMHO, I think Milwaukee in general, is the best, but you pay more. 
For my occasional use, the dewalt consumer grade stuff is ok.  I 
have a Milw, corded hammerdrill, and it is what I grab for serious 
stuff.


No experience with makita, except the original 4" grinder, and that 
is//was the cats meow for small grinders.  (original and maybe 
still the best, but most pros use dewalt now.)





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I think there are different grades of Makita. Not sure but I have a 
couple of Makita items that are great but I also had a cordless 
drill kit purchased from Canadian Tire that was junk. Not sure, but 
suspect that Makita makes some stuff for the cheaper stores that is 
not up to its historical standards.


RB


As does dewalt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yup. I usually only have 2 batteries, for the small amount I use 'em. My 19.2v 
Crapsman drill (the wife gave it to me for Christmas) has one dead one, I need 
to decide if its worth getting another battery or go Lithium Ion in another 
brand.Dad bought Black and Decker Li-on tools for camp and they're actually 
pretty good. We've got a drill, weed wacker and a pole saw. They all use the 
same battery so we have 2 big ones and a small one. Lighter than my Crapsman 
too.
-Curt

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Cc: G Mann  
 Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 12:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Milwaukee vs. DeWalt vs. Makita cordless saws
   
With any battery power tool, invest in at least 2 extra batteries.
As soon as the tool starts to slow down, stab in a fresh charged battery
and put the tired one on charge. Your batteries will last much longer if
you do not pull them to "dead flat charge" repeatedly, and your projects
will get done timely having a fresh charge battery instantly available.

My experience.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If you're talking Sawzall, Milwaukee.
>
> DeWalt makes some good stuff, but if you walk around a construction site
> you're going to see lots of Milwaukee products.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've decided to spring for a rechargeable/cordless circular saw, maybe
> also
> > a sawzall.
> >
> > Which among the Big Three is the best brand in the "reasonable" (lay
> > person) price range?  Which one should I avoid?  Is there another good
> > brand?  My chief criterion is duration of battery charge (longer is
> better).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

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Don't forget the federal subsidy of the ethanol in your gas . . .  that
needs to STOP.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Don't forget - oil and gas get $$billions in tax breaks
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:47 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Federal Subsidies:  A scheme by which you use electricity today with the
> > cost being pushed forward to be paid by yet unborn citizens.
> >
> > In legal principle, a contract of adhesion. Specifically named as a
> > violation of the Constitution of USA.
> >
>


-- 
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

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What ethanol? 
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Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 07 October 2015, 02:34PM -0400 from 
OK Don via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> :

>Don't forget the federal subsidy of the ethanol in your gas . . .  that
>needs to STOP.
>
>On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>
>> Don't forget - oil and gas get $$billions in tax breaks
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:47 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Federal Subsidies:  A scheme by which you use electricity today with the
>> > cost being pushed forward to be paid by yet unborn citizens.
>> >
>> > In legal principle, a contract of adhesion. Specifically named as a
>> > violation of the Constitution of USA.
>> >
>>
>
>
>-- 
>OK Don
>
>NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>
>*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
>"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>for themselves."
>
>WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>2013 F150, 18 mpg
>2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Don't forget the federal subsidy of the ethanol in your gas . . .  that
needs to STOP.


Right after the fed subsidies for the petroleum industry STOP!  THAT 
will be only at the end of the world, or the end of the country, 
which may be soon the way congress abdicates its powers and our lil 
dictator acts.


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[MBZ] OT: Bragging

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Our son just passed the check ride for his private pilots license in our
1957 Cessna 182! That makes three generations of pilots in our family.

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bragging

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Now I feel unfulfilled

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Our son just passed the check ride for his private pilots license in our
> 1957 Cessna 182! That makes three generations of pilots in our family.
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bragging

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Our son just passed the check ride for his private pilots license in our
1957 Cessna 182! That makes three generations of pilots in our family.

--
OK Don



YAY!  Waytago!

Send him our congrats!

I hope he is as wise as the prior two generations.  My bet is that he is!

How old is this son?

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Re: [MBZ] WWII gliders

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curly wrote:
> The mission group was called Keokuk, after the Sac/Fox Chief Keokuk.

An Iowa town also?
More Iowa interesting stuff:
www.youtube.com/watch?t=260&v=Y0XbqHUAI-0
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bragging

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 5:03 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Our son just passed the check ride for his private pilots license in our
1957 Cessna 182! That makes three generations of pilots in our family.

--
OK Don



YAY!  Waytago!

Send him our congrats!

I hope he is as wise as the prior two generations.  My bet is that he is!

How old is this son?

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Yes, - old pilots and bold pilots but not many old, bold pilots.
Got to be careful out there.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Craig wrote:
> And it still doesn't address the situation where the sun stops shining or
> the wind stops blowing.

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.
Why 24/7 power?
We can learn a different scheme of life without all electricity all the time.
If we can do this and eliminate dependence on mideast oil we can
accomplish a fundamental throttle on ISIS and other manufactured
terrorism, etc.
Yes, dreaming, but...  Dr. Ben likes JFK-esque ideas.  We can too.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curly wrote:
> ...I may be in chi Oct 20-21...

Okiebenz meetup?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 5:18 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Craig wrote:

And it still doesn't address the situation where the sun stops shining or
the wind stops blowing.

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.
Why 24/7 power?
We can learn a different scheme of life without all electricity all the time.
If we can do this and eliminate dependence on mideast oil we can
accomplish a fundamental throttle on ISIS and other manufactured
terrorism, etc.
Yes, dreaming, but...  Dr. Ben likes JFK-esque ideas.  We can too.
mao

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Well, I for one do not wish to do without my 24 hour power.
Here in the great white north, it gets pretty cold at night in the winter.
My furnace likes it's steady power supply.

My insurance company pretty much frowns on things like wood stoves 
anymore so I don't have a whole lot of choice.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 5:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Curly wrote:

...I may be in chi Oct 20-21...

Okiebenz meetup?
mao

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He will bring the sprayer and you can all line up and have your Mercedes 
painted, so long as you all accept the same color.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bragging

[G Mann via Mercedes]

ATTABOY !!


On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 07/10/2015 5:03 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Our son just passed the check ride for his private pilots license in our
>>> 1957 Cessna 182! That makes three generations of pilots in our family.
>>>
>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>>
>>
>>
>> YAY!  Waytago!
>>
>> Send him our congrats!
>>
>> I hope he is as wise as the prior two generations.  My bet is that he is!
>>
>> How old is this son?
>>
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>
> Yes, - old pilots and bold pilots but not many old, bold pilots.
> Got to be careful out there.
>
> RB
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I own and use airless sprayers, have two of them. I've done both interior
and exterior painting with them to great success.

Like any painting, skill improves with use. The airless machine puts out
paint at about 1700 psi at the nozzle, DO NOT put a body part in front of
nozzle.. wear eye protection.

Recently, I had a project that required painting and I was in the city,
sprayers were both at the Ranch, so I rented one from Home Depot for 4 hrs.
It cost less than the fuel used to drive the 220 mile round trip to get my
own.

The rental sprayer had a feature I liked very much.. It allowed you to
adjust the delivery pressure at the spray tip from as low as 400 psi to a
high of 1,800 psi.

I found this feature very handy for painting trim and smooth surfaces where
I needed to control possible overspray.  The bulk of the job was stucco
finish which is very rough and very hard to paint with roller or brush..
easy with the airless and the pressure delivery put paint deep into the
rough surface.

Two people helping tape off ahead of me.. total time to paint 2,600 sq ft
house, 3 hrs. + 1/2 to clean the sprayer and take off masking.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 07/10/2015 5:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Curly wrote:
>>
>>> ...I may be in chi Oct 20-21...
>>>
>> Okiebenz meetup?
>> mao
>>
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>> He will bring the sprayer and you can all line up and have your Mercedes
> painted, so long as you all accept the same color.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I'm thinking two inverters back to back and a sine wave line conditioner 
feeding the computer equipment on a special circuit; assuming that the 
inverters can handle a squirrelly sine wave. The DC coming into the second 
inverter should be converted into reasonable good sine waves, and the line 
conditioner should fine tune them.
Gerry

> > but they wouldn't recharge on my generator which tended to run
> > outside the 57-63 Hz UPS threshold for OK power.
> 
> IIRC, that is a bit of an issue.  These things need a "Hey,
> it's not _that_ bad" switch on them or something.  Shut up
> and eat your electrons...
> 
> Ironically, I have the worst problem with Big Bertha.  Its
> regulation is terrible.  I'm not sure what it is, I may
> have something wrong that could be addressed, but we've
> only used it a handful of times, after the power has been
> down for days and it's time for hot showers, laundry, etc.
> It works good enough for that, but the UPS's aren't buying
> it.  "You call _that_ power?  My _kid_ could make better
> power than that."

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[MBZ] Adams Farwell Was: WWII gliders

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Curly wrote:
 > The mission group was called Keokuk, after the Sac/Fox Chief Keokuk.

An Iowa town also?
More Iowa interesting stuff:
www.youtube.com/watch?t=260&v=Y0XbqHUAI-0
mao



The company still exists.

http://theadamscompany.com/

This gives a better explanation of the engine design:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZmd7k33JWE


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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On 07/10/2015 5:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Curly wrote:

...I may be in chi Oct 20-21...

Okiebenz meetup?
mao

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He will bring the sprayer and you can all line up and have your 
Mercedes painted, so long as you all accept the same color.


RB


You volunteering to do the prep work?

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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Could be.  I need to find out if I am going or not.


Curly wrote:

 ...I may be in chi Oct 20-21...


Okiebenz meetup?
mao


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[MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

First, I want to thank Curly for giving me the tip to contact Sun Valley Trans. 
I spoke with Mark, he was gracious and took the time to listen and offer a 
diagnostic suggestion. I'm not a mechanic, but I could follow his direction and 
determined that I have in fact a vacuum problem and not a bad tranny. So, if 
anyone has a tranny question or issue or needs a rebuilt tranny, please contact 
Mark at Sun Valley Trans in Van Nuys, CA, 818-782-2300. It's not often you find 
someone in business as nice and willing to help as was Mark. 
Now, all I have to do is isolate "what" the source of the vacuum problem is. I 
say problem, because it may not be a leak, but rather a bad orifice, inline 
vacuum regulator, or even the modulator regulation valve on top of the IP (any 
suggestions would again be greatly welcome). I plan to first bypass the valve 
on top of the IP and see what happens, if no joy, move on to other things like 
the orifices (blow out), etc. 
Curly, again, thank you 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

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[MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Sweet 1985 Mercedes 300D Turbo
http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/5250562826.html

via cPro Craigslist App
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, that “little rust” at the base of the back window is a big honking 
problem just waiting to surprise someone.

Headliner is toast.

“Stuck” odometer?  How much has it been driven since you bought it three years 
ago?

And maybe it’s me, but why do people get the idea that the original first aid 
kit adds value?  If it’s not fused closed from being baked in the back window, 
the stuff that’s in it is so worthless it could never be put to use.  Call me a 
purist, but those are the first thing I toss when I get an older car.

Dan


> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sweet 1985 Mercedes 300D Turbo
> http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/5250562826.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bragging

[OK Don via Mercedes]

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Our son just passed the check ride for his private pilots license in our
>> 1957 Cessna 182! That makes three generations of pilots in our family.
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>
>
> YAY!  Waytago!
>
> Send him our congrats!
>
> I hope he is as wise as the prior two generations.  My bet is that he is!
>
> How old is this son?
>
>
He's 28 . . .

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Re: [MBZ] OT House Painting

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Get a good respirator if you spray inside.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:47 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Rick Knoble 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT House Painting
> 
> Has anybody here used a high pressure sprayer to paint exterior or interior
> walls of a house? Just curious. I have some (a LOT) of painting to do, and I
> really don't relish the thought of using a roller and brushes.
> 
> Well maybe I just want a new toy.
> 
> Thoughts?  ‎
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's good news Roger, let us know how the vacuum system diagnosis progresses.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 7, 2015 9:29:59 PM EDT, rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>First, I want to thank Curly for giving me the tip to contact Sun
>Valley Trans. I spoke with Mark, he was gracious and took the time to
>listen and offer a diagnostic suggestion. I'm not a mechanic, but I
>could follow his direction and determined that I have in fact a vacuum
>problem and not a bad tranny. So, if anyone has a tranny question or
>issue or needs a rebuilt tranny, please contact Mark at Sun Valley
>Trans in Van Nuys, CA, 818-782-2300. It's not often you find someone in
>business as nice and willing to help as was Mark. 
>Now, all I have to do is isolate "what" the source of the vacuum
>problem is. I say problem, because it may not be a leak, but rather a
>bad orifice, inline vacuum regulator, or even the modulator regulation
>valve on top of the IP (any suggestions would again be greatly
>welcome). I plan to first bypass the valve on top of the IP and see
>what happens, if no joy, move on to other things like the orifices
>(blow out), etc. 
>Curly, again, thank you 
>Best Wishes, 
>Roger 
>Roger Hale 
>Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
>Monroe, Ga. 
>770-267-0850 
>www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
>www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

First, I want to thank Curly for giving me the tip to contact Sun 
Valley Trans. I spoke with Mark, he was gracious and took the time 
to listen and offer a diagnostic suggestion. I'm not a mechanic, but 
I could follow his direction and determined that I have in fact a 
vacuum problem and not a bad tranny. So, if anyone has a tranny 
question or issue or needs a rebuilt tranny, please contact Mark at 
Sun Valley Trans in Van Nuys, CA, 818-782-2300. It's not often you 
find someone in business as nice and willing to help as was Mark.
Now, all I have to do is isolate "what" the source of the vacuum 
problem is. I say problem, because it may not be a leak, but rather 
a bad orifice, inline vacuum regulator, or even the modulator 
regulation valve on top of the IP (any suggestions would again be 
greatly welcome). I plan to first bypass the valve on top of the IP 
and see what happens, if no joy, move on to other things like the 
orifices (blow out), etc.

Curly, again, thank you
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new)
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique)


You are welcome.  Mark saved me from buying a trans in a 124 wagon. 
He told me to change the filter and fluid and ONLY use Mann filters 
in a 124!  I did, the trans was still working years later when i sold 
the car.  Now, I only use Mann in all MB trans.


Check out the Sun Valley website.  He has diagnostics for the vacuum 
problems there.


Did he say you have lack of vacuum or too much vacuum?

I am always happy to recommend Sun Valley.  He is a gentleman and a 
scholar.  He is also the font of all MB transmission knowledge in 
North America, and perhaps the world.  (No connection. the usual 
disclaimers)


Q was always happy to sell transmissions rebuilt by Sun Valley 
because they worked.  I am happy to recommend a man who runs his 
business right and treats all inquiries as potential customers or 
customers.


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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I used to sell the hell out of those old sun baked 1st aid kits on eBay 

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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, that “little rust” at the base of the back window is a big honking 
> problem just waiting to surprise someone.
> 
> Headliner is toast.
> 
> “Stuck” odometer?  How much has it been driven since you bought it three 
> years ago?
> 
> And maybe it’s me, but why do people get the idea that the original first aid 
> kit adds value?  If it’s not fused closed from being baked in the back 
> window, the stuff that’s in it is so worthless it could never be put to use.  
> Call me a purist, but those are the first thing I toss when I get an older 
> car.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sweet 1985 Mercedes 300D Turbo
>> http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/5250562826.html
>> 
>> via cPro Craigslist App
>> iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
>> Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bragging

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Tell 'im I said, "Congratulations and ATTABOY!"

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "OK Don" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 5:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Bragging



Our son just passed the check ride for his private pilots license in our
1957 Cessna 182! That makes three generations of pilots in our family.

--
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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The only problem with that theory is there is no vacuum involved in the 116 
diesel transmissions. It is a control rod connected to the linkage. What 
problems are you having. 

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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 8:29 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> First, I want to thank Curly for giving me the tip to contact Sun Valley 
> Trans. I spoke with Mark, he was gracious and took the time to listen and 
> offer a diagnostic suggestion. I'm not a mechanic, but I could follow his 
> direction and determined that I have in fact a vacuum problem and not a bad 
> tranny. So, if anyone has a tranny question or issue or needs a rebuilt 
> tranny, please contact Mark at Sun Valley Trans in Van Nuys, CA, 
> 818-782-2300. It's not often you find someone in business as nice and willing 
> to help as was Mark. 
> Now, all I have to do is isolate "what" the source of the vacuum problem is. 
> I say problem, because it may not be a leak, but rather a bad orifice, inline 
> vacuum regulator, or even the modulator regulation valve on top of the IP 
> (any suggestions would again be greatly welcome). I plan to first bypass the 
> valve on top of the IP and see what happens, if no joy, move on to other 
> things like the orifices (blow out), etc. 
> Curly, again, thank you 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

And maybe it's me, but why do people get the idea that the original 
first aid kit adds value?  If it's not fused closed from being baked 
in the back window, the stuff that's in it is so worthless it could 
never be put to use.  Call me a purist, but those are the first 
thing I toss when I get an older car.


Dan


Ah, Herr Benz Guru,  that is where we differ.  A triangular bandage 
still works, if 30 years old.  I replace tape, and other aged 
adhesive stuff, anything that may be hopelessly outdated, then add 
bandaids and other  stuff to make a good kit.


In fact, the kit from the late beloved TD is at the cottage, as it is 
a better kit than what had been there.
Fortunately, to date, we have never had to use anything but minor 
stuff from any of the kits.


30 some years ago, Herr Clarke, owner of the dealership I bought 
parts from, gave me a new German kit from a new car delivered to the 
dealership with the German kit rather than the US kit.  I carried it 
in the 200D for years, and I still have it.  Since then, I have grown 
attached to having a MB first aid kit in the car.  Even before that I 
carried a small AAA kit, but it is very minimal compared to the MB 
kit.


I will admit that the number of triangular bandages is probably in 
excess, unless travelling in  a turd world country where one 6-7 pass 
van may be hauling 20-30 people.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bragging

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Done . . .

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:31 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Tell 'im I said, "Congratulations and ATTABOY!"
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "OK Don via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "OK Don" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 5:37 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Bragging
>
>
> Our son just passed the check ride for his private pilots license in our
>> 1957 Cessna 182! That makes three generations of pilots in our family.
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

from the way things sound. A well adjusted mechanical governor 
shouldn't vary more than 3Hz at load changes, and that would be heavy 
loads. If it does, something is not adjusted properly or he's got fuel 
system issues.


Yeah, that mechanical thingy has holes and springs.  I have no 
instructions

on how to set it up right.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Not sure if it's in the budget, but it could be retrofitted for an 
electronic or "isochronous" governor for a few bucks. That keeps it 
dead nuts at 60Hz no load to full load.


Budget is essentially zero, as what we have serves the needs.
We just charge UPS on rope-pull; heat water, cook, dry on BB.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

In Jim's case, I don't think I'd want to compete against your kid in 
making

_anything_!


These are not inherited traits.  Kid can't make anything material.
Not interested.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

Hmmm, except in 1980, methinks. Same for W123: the vacuum controls appeared in 
the 1980 model year.

> On Oct 7, 2015, Kaleb wrote:
> 
> The only problem with that theory is there is no vacuum involved in the 116 
> diesel transmissions.

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Re: [MBZ] Tranny Problem 1980 300SD

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Curly, 
Mark didn't say whether I had too much or too little vac. With no vacuum to the 
transmission modulator, it shifts good. So that would seem like too much vacuum 
when connected. 
Kaleb, the 116 does have the linkage rod, but it also has the vacuum line from 
the modulator valve on top of the IP to the tranny modulator valve on the 
passenger side of the tranny. So, there is vacuum involved in the shifting. I 
just don't remember the exact purpose of the linkage rod. 
Thanks guys, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
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