date:20151116

I had a 280SE euro several years ago that had leather, acc, power windows and 
seats, and the aux gas powered heater. 

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> 
> not quite the opposite.  The opposing color to green is orange.
> 
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> the thought of putting the M110 engine in the 220Sb.
> 
> My second SDL was burgundy/burgundy leather and that was nice looking.  I 
> only took it to one show, so I sold it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

Is that area surrounded by International Paper lands?  I used to work for
IP and did field trips to company lands in ME and NB.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No deer, lots of sign though.
> The camp is in Caribou, Maine. Take I-95 north until it becomes the
> TransCanada 2, turn left and drive north for an hour.
> -Curt
>
>   From: OK Don 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:16 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long
>
> Very cool - sounds like you are about to get it figured out and optimized
> for your needs. Get any deer?
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Since we had the talk some time ago about Andrew possibly installing some
> solar power I thought I'd bring you up to date on the solar installation at
> camp.As a reminder Dad installed 1x 100w solar panel, charge controller, 2x
> 35ah 12v batteries and an 800w inverter.
> The system powers the range hood which sports a 9w CF bulb and a fan which
> together pull around 80w running on high and a ceiling fan which pulls
> about 40w on its one setting. This is measured at the output of the
> inverter with a kill-a-watt meter. When its on the inverter itself draws
> .5a at 12v or about 6w measured with a multimeter. The inverter also has 2
> USB outputs, each draws .25a at 12v for another 6w when in use. The
> inverter draws a constant .01a when idling with the USB ports hot but not
> in use.
>
> Most recently we had 4 guys for 9 days. Thats 4 cell phones and 4 tablets
> plus the wifi hot spot. Something was on the USB ports all the time, in
> fact I charged my tablet and phone in my truck because I couldn't get any
> time inside for it. So I figure we were using 6w 24 hours a day for 144w.
> The range hood light/fan combo ran every morning for about half an hour and
> the light ran every evening for about 2 hours, we didn't use the ceiling
> fan. That'd be 40w in the morning and 18 in the afternoon giving us a grand
> total of 202wh or around 16ah at 12v.
> The 100w panel is angled for best capture in mid August at which time it
> should make (reliably) 400wh a day. Sadly this time of the year I'd be
> satisfied if we were making 1/4 that. We don't have good input monitoring
> (yet) so lets say 100wh which is possibly generous. Certainly we did start
> making power about the time the sun came up with the panel showing constant
> 12v about half an hour later and it continued at that rate until the sun
> was well over the horizon. So we were using about twice our production.
> Actually thats true for the sunny days, I suspect on the cloudy and rainy
> days we were probably making more like 50wh...
> Some of this will be improved by taking down some small trees to the east
> of the camp that shade the panel early in the day. There are other much
> larger trees which could be removed for more improvement but won't for
> ascetic reasons.
>
> Anyway the system behaved as expected, with an 8ah a day deficit voltage
> sagged badly so every other day I'd run the charger for awhile to prop it
> up which was a PITA.
> The extended plan for next year is to add 2x 100w panels and 2x 35ah
> batteries though I may push for a third panel instead of the batteries to
> help during the cloudy times.
> Other add on plans:2x 12v ports, we need more USB capacityammeter for
> incoming (ie solar) monitoring. I intend to put this in a box with the 12v
> portsbattery voltage monitoring - we currently have an input voltage
> monitor but not on the batteries, though in practice the batteries lag the
> panel by about .2v just about all the time.
> Pics:
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134650599_HDR_zpsvaomkrrj.jpg
> the panelhttp://
> i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134636443_HDR_zpshlloz7hl.jpg
> batteries, with the backup charger, note that this is actually on the
> outside of the camp, directly under the panel and just visible in that shot.
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134715244_zpszvgug8rj.jpg
> the brains of the operation, right to left, the inverter with the
> kill-a-watt hanging off it feeding the camp through the orange cord is
> connected to the charge controller which is connected to the batteries
> (middle posts) and to the solar (left side posts) also shown is the solar
> voltage and under that the shunt thats supposed to allow us to see solar
> amperage but that strangely only seems to work at voltages below 12v.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class" 
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy 
was extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently 
"no-go" zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."  
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons 
and bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.


--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other 
sources saying different?
-Curt

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  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press reporting vs. "ground truth"?



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[MBZ] "Light front end damage" (It'll buff right out)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E350-/272041873315?forcerrptr=true=item3f56f58fa3:g:AGEAAOSwlV9WSIvv=272041873315
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Re: [MBZ] "Light front end damage" (It'll buff right out)

2015-11-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

That will buff right out...

But.. does the air blow cold?

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Re: [MBZ] Police pull over a car and get a surprise.

2015-11-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Read that on Drudge a few days ago, maybe you should bookmark and keep up
with more news:

www.drudgereport.com

Impeding traffic is impeding traffic, the "operator" should have gotten the
ticket.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Police pull over self-driving car in Calif.Published: Friday, November 13,
> 2015
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it will
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

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Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rich Thomas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class" 
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy was
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."  
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and
bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other
sources saying different?
> -Curt
>
>From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>   To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Max Dillon 
>   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
> 
> Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press
reporting vs. "ground truth"?


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Re: [MBZ] Police pull over a car and get a surprise.

Maybe you should watch MSNBC.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Read that on Drudge a few days ago, maybe you should bookmark and keep up
> with more news:
>
> www.drudgereport.com
>
> Impeding traffic is impeding traffic, the "operator" should have gotten the
> ticket.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Police pull over self-driving car in Calif.Published: Friday, November
> 13,
> > 2015
> >
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Re: [MBZ] an interesting euro 126 that is the complete opposite of green on green

The opposite of green is neerg.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I had a 280SE euro several years ago that had leather, acc, power windows
> and seats, and the aux gas powered heater.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-/252172212851?forcerrptr=true=item3ab6a29a73:g:WpYAAOSwcdBWSOjS=252172212851
> >
> > not quite the opposite.  The opposing color to green is orange.
> >
> > However, the 280SE Euro is droolworthy.  I bought a wrecked 280SE euro
> with the thought of putting the M110 engine in the 220Sb.
> >
> > My second SDL was burgundy/burgundy leather and that was nice looking.
> I only took it to one show, so I sold it.
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[MBZ] OT: Understanding ISIS

'net Friends:

 

A liberal friend of mine posted this Atlantic article:

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/3
84980/?utm_source=SFTwitter#article-comments

 

I was very surprised that this article agrees pretty much with everything I
have learned about fundamental islam over the years. It's quite long but
full of the kind of information that would be helpful for our leaders to
have. His descriptive and analytical discussion of ISIS and its basis in
Islamic doctrine is outstanding. His prescription for the best (or least
poor of the poor) solutions is highly speculative. And his assertion that
ISIS intends to only attack its near enemies and not the far ones has
obviously been belied by recent events. Some salient quotes:

 

<< We can gather that their state rejects peace as a matter of principle;
that it hungers for genocide; that its religious views make it
constitutionally incapable of certain types of change, even if that change
might ensure its survival; and that it considers itself a harbinger of-and
headline player in-the imminent end of the world.>>

 

<<... much of what the group does looks nonsensical except in light of a
sincere, carefully considered commitment to returning civilization to a
seventh-century legal environment, and ultimately to bringing about the
apocalypse.>>

 

<<... pretending that it isn't actually a religious, millenarian group, with
theology that must be understood to be combatted, has already led the United
States to underestimate it and back foolish schemes to counter it.>>

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] "Light front end damage" (It'll buff right out)

What kind of buffer do you have?

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wrote:

> That will buff right out...
>
> But.. does the air blow cold?
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] email clients

I used Postbox a lot but never for email. 
http://www.videolandproductions.com/postpro/postbox/postbox.htm
In fact I'm a "Postbox Master Editor" that and $2 might get a cup of coffee...
-CurtPanasonic Postbox Master Editor
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 Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 1:05 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] email clients
   
Anyone using postbox for email?  I'm particularly interested if you 
switched from Eudora.  Thanks



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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other 
sources saying different?
-Curt

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Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press 
reporting vs. "ground truth"?  
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
>most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
>Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
>to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
>don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."
>
>Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

No deer, lots of sign though.
The camp is in Caribou, Maine. Take I-95 north until it becomes the TransCanada
2, turn left and drive north for an hour.
-Curt

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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

Very cool - sounds like you are about to get it figured out and optimized for
your needs. Get any deer?

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wrote:

Since we had the talk some time ago about Andrew possibly installing some solar
power I thought I'd bring you up to date on the solar installation at camp.As a
reminder Dad installed 1x 100w solar panel, charge controller, 2x 35ah 12v
batteries and an 800w inverter.
The system powers the range hood which sports a 9w CF bulb and a fan which
together pull around 80w running on high and a ceiling fan which pulls about
40w on its one setting. This is measured at the output of the inverter with a
kill-a-watt meter. When its on the inverter itself draws .5a at 12v or about 6w
measured with a multimeter. The inverter also has 2 USB outputs, each draws
.25a at 12v for another 6w when in use. The inverter draws a constant .01a when
idling with the USB ports hot but not in use.

Most recently we had 4 guys for 9 days. Thats 4 cell phones and 4 tablets plus
the wifi hot spot. Something was on the USB ports all the time, in fact I
charged my tablet and phone in my truck because I couldn't get any time inside
for it. So I figure we were using 6w 24 hours a day for 144w. The range hood
light/fan combo ran every morning for about half an hour and the light ran
every evening for about 2 hours, we didn't use the ceiling fan. That'd be 40w
in the morning and 18 in the afternoon giving us a grand total of 202wh or
around 16ah at 12v.
The 100w panel is angled for best capture in mid August at which time it should
make (reliably) 400wh a day. Sadly this time of the year I'd be satisfied if we
were making 1/4 that. We don't have good input monitoring (yet) so lets say
100wh which is possibly generous. Certainly we did start making power about the
time the sun came up with the panel showing constant 12v about half an hour
later and it continued at that rate until the sun was well over the horizon. So
we were using about twice our production. Actually thats true for the sunny
days, I suspect on the cloudy and rainy days we were probably making more like
50wh...
Some of this will be improved by taking down some small trees to the east of
the camp that shade the panel early in the day. There are other much larger
trees which could be removed for more improvement but won't for ascetic reasons.

Anyway the system behaved as expected, with an 8ah a day deficit voltage sagged
badly so every other day I'd run the charger for awhile to prop it up which was
a PITA.
The extended plan for next year is to add 2x 100w panels and 2x 35ah batteries
though I may push for a third panel instead of the batteries to help during the
cloudy times.
Other add on plans:2x 12v ports, we need more USB capacityammeter for incoming
(ie solar) monitoring. I intend to put this in a box with the 12v portsbattery
voltage monitoring - we currently have an input voltage monitor but not on the
batteries, though in practice the batteries lag the panel by about .2v just
about all the time.
Pics:http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134650599_HDR_zpsvaomkrrj.jpg
the
panelhttp://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134636443_HDR_zpshlloz7hl.jpg
batteries, with the backup charger, note that this is actually on the outside
of the camp, directly under the panel and just visible in that
shot.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134715244_zpszvgug8rj.jpg
the brains of the operation, right to left, the inverter with the kill-a-watt
hanging off it feeding the camp through the orange cord is connected to the
charge controller which is connected to the batteries (middle posts) and to the
solar (left side posts) also shown is the solar voltage and under that the
shunt thats supposed to allow us to see solar amperage but that strangely only
seems to work at voltages below 12v.
-Curt
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rest of them have to pee on the

[MBZ] Police pull over a car and get a surprise.

Police pull over self-driving car in Calif.Published: Friday, November 13,
2015

Police in Mountain View, Calif. -- where Internet giant Google Inc. is
based -- pulled over a slow-moving vehicle yesterday and were surprised to
find it was one of the company's self-driving cars.

In a Facebook post, the Mountain View Police Department said an officer
began a routine traffic stop on the vehicle, which was delaying eastbound
traffic on busy El Camino Real.

The vehicle was traveling 24 mph in a 35 mph zone. After the car was pulled
over, an officer realized it was a self-driving car and contacted its
operators, the department said.

The department said the officer asked Google why the car was going so slow
and let them know it was impeding traffic.

Under California law, though, the self-driving vehicle was allowed to
operate on the road because it did not have a speed limit above 35 mph
(Jenna Lyons, *San Francisco Chronicle*
,
Nov. 12). *-- SP*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

Surrounded sounds ominous. Its more like riddled with paper company land. Most
of it is owned by Irving these days although I remember the days of IP
ownership and Boise Cascade before that.
-Curt
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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

Is that area surrounded by International Paper lands? I used to work for IP
and did field trips to company lands in ME and NB.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:

No deer, lots of sign though.
The camp is in Caribou, Maine. Take I-95 north until it becomes the TransCanada
2, turn left and drive north for an hour.
-Curt

From: OK Don
To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

Very cool - sounds like you are about to get it figured out and optimized for
your needs. Get any deer?

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

Twiddle the rheostat a bunch, I've had them seem completely dead for a 
surprisingly long period of time before they came back.
If that doesn't help try pushing the cluster around a little, could be a bad 
ground but that should make the temp rise erroniously and the fuel gauge pulse 
with the clock...
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel  
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 2:57 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

The dash lights (including all instrument cluster gauges and ACC control
panel) on my 1985 300TD quit working when I took the car for a spin after
it had sat idle for a couple weeks.  The radio lights continue to work,
however.

I fiddled with the dimmer control know but nothing changed, and the lights
did NOT come on briefly/intermittently while i was twisting the knob back
and forth.  Other than the rheostat, could anything else be causing these
symptoms?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

They have one of their newest newsreaders over there interviewing 
people, he asked some guy about offending sensibilities with their 
rounding up of these a..holes.  He was all perturbed over that, and 
incredulous they weren't holding a kumbaya party or something.  I think 
it was before 7AM.

I just heard on something on "of the World" on NPR at the end at 3, some 
VM they had where some guy was going on that war was not the answer, 
that we needed to sit down and talk with them and come to some 
understanding, then the host wistfully announced the end of the show on 
that note.  Talk, like the headchoppers are going to sit down and talk.  
Yeah, dude, you first!  The appalling stupidity of some people is just 
mind-boggling.

--R

On 11/16/15 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I listened to NPR this morning and didn't hear that part. The govt. is 
aggressively rounding up suspects and weapons caches, and bombing ISIS 
camps in Syria.  What's wrong with that?

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:

I guess you don't listen to NPR then... that has been their
mindset for 14 years 2 months and 4 days.  The guy this morning
just couldn't understand why the French and Belgians and whoever
were not concerned about the sensibilities in the "working-class"
neighborhoods, which I think are not particularly related much to
"working" given the amount of free sh..tuff they get.

--R

On 11/16/15 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something
like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is
that it will
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in
"working-class"
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the
residents.  The guy was
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are
apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of
weapons and
bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class"
there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting
today. Are other

sources saying different?

-Curt

From: Max Dillon via Mercedes
>
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Cc: Max Dillon >
   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
 Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment
on American press

reporting vs. "ground truth"?

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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

Yeah,  I am following the instructions at:
http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html

1.  Open Disk Utility and select the Flash Drive
	2.	Select the Erase tab on the right and then set Format 
to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Name the partition you'll be creating 
Snow Leopard or OS X Install so you can keep track of your 
installation device. After you've done this, click the Erase button.

Step 2 won't complete.  When I "click on the "erase" button,  it said 
the source has not been verified, but offers no way to verify.   When 
I go to the "first aid" tab of the disk utility, find the file, and 
click verify, it verifies, but then the "restore" tab does the same 
thing on the nest try to "restore."

I tried copy paste to put the files on the USB stick but that does 
not show up as bootable.

Still frustrating!

Thanks for any suggestions.

The same. Get the image file and load it on to a bootable USB stick 
and you're done.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:34 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 I'd like to upgrade my Mini to 10.8, but the DVD drive is shot.

 > Suggestions?
 >
 > -MMM-
 >
 > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 >
 >>
 >> 
http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html

 MacDan

 On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <

 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Mac ?

 I am trying to upgrade the old macbook 1.1 from 10.5 to 10.6 so I can

 get a web browser that works.

 Thanks to Dan, I have the disk image for the 10.6 install.  It won't

 boot from the computer; says I have to put it on a disk.  It won't work on
 a normal dvd, but wants a dual layer DVD+ -.  There are no dual layer blank
 dvds to be bought in town, unless the univ bookstore has some tomorrow.
 None at floormart or at worstbuy.  Staples packed up the tent and left.

 I bought a WD "my passport" external drive, and first used it to back up

 the machine HD.  After the "must burn to disk" warning, i thought I could
 put the install file on the external drive and boot from that.  No dice!
 It seems that the WD external drives made explicitly for Mac won't boot
 from a mac.  So, what is the mac equivalent of the MBR from a 
winders drive?

 The next option seems to be a 16 GB USB stick.  I've found scripts to

 use to make a USB stick bootable using terminal.  At this point, and with
 10 dvd DL costing $20-30, it seems like the USB stick may be the shortest
 route to success.

 Anyone BTDT?  What are your thoughts, Mac guys?  Thanks

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

The frogs have shut down the dome centers of hatred.  Smart move. 
Too bad nobody in our goobers mint can figger dat out!


Is the alien and sedation act still in force?   Seems to me we usta 
had some l Aws agin it.



They have one of their newest newsreaders over there interviewing 
people, he asked some guy about offending sensibilities with their 
rounding up of these a..holes.  He was all perturbed over that, and 
incredulous they weren't holding a kumbaya party or something.  I 
think it was before 7AM.


I just heard on something on "of the World" on NPR at the end at 3, 
some VM they had where some guy was going on that war was not the 
answer, that we needed to sit down and talk with them and come to 
some understanding, then the host wistfully announced the end of the 
show on that note.  Talk, like the headchoppers are going to sit 
down and talk.  Yeah, dude, you first!  The appalling stupidity of 
some people is just mind-boggling.


--R


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[MBZ] Phoenix

What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing 
my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but 
would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in 
Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do 
with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the 
additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast 
would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking 
Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. 

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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager 
job at work but would have to relocate to the region which would 
mean having to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. 
My main issue would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not 
sure what the money would be if it's worth the additional cost of 
living in those places. I think living in the west coast would be 
out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking 
Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.


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High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.

My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times 
I've been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested 
by the fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be 
nice before the invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.


Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. 
WY has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the 
hole.


From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a 
western town, Gallup is IT!


Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much 
grows, so mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows.


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Re: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

Corrosion in the rheostat.  I soldered a jumper to bypass the dimmer, 
since the bubs are pretty dim anyway.




The dash lights (including all instrument cluster gauges and ACC control
panel) on my 1985 300TD quit working when I took the car for a spin after
it had sat idle for a couple weeks.  The radio lights continue to work,
however.

I fiddled with the dimmer control know but nothing changed, and the lights
did NOT come on briefly/intermittently while i was twisting the knob back
and forth.  Other than the rheostat, could anything else be causing these
symptoms?
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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

I see part of the problem.  the disk utility is supposed to have a 
"Partition " tab that lets you install the GUID.  Mine (10.6.8) has 
only 4 tabs; first aid, erase, RAID, restore.

**Prior message:***

Yeah,  I am following the instructions at:
http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html

1.  Open Disk Utility and select the Flash Drive
	2.	Select the Erase tab on the right and then set Format 
to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Name the partition you'll be creating 
Snow Leopard or OS X Install so you can keep track of your 
installation device. After you've done this, click the Erase button.

Step 2 won't complete.  When I "click on the "erase" button,  it said 
the source has not been verified, but offers no way to verify.   When 
I go to the "first aid" tab of the disk utility, find the file, and 
click verify, it verifies, but then the "restore" tab does the same 
thing on the nest try to "restore."

I tried copy paste to put the files on the USB stick but that does 
not show up as bootable.

Still frustrating!

Thanks for any suggestions.

The same. Get the image file and load it on to a bootable USB stick 
and you're done.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:34 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 I'd like to upgrade my Mini to 10.8, but the DVD drive is shot.

 > Suggestions?
 >
 > -MMM-
 >
 > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 >
 >>
 >> 
http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html

 MacDan

 On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <

 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Mac ?

 I am trying to upgrade the old macbook 1.1 from 10.5 to 10.6 so I can

 get a web browser that works.

 Thanks to Dan, I have the disk image for the 10.6 install.  It won't

 boot from the computer; says I have to put it on a disk.  It won't work on
 a normal dvd, but wants a dual layer DVD+ -.  There are no dual layer blank
 dvds to be bought in town, unless the univ bookstore has some tomorrow.
 None at floormart or at worstbuy.  Staples packed up the tent and left.

 I bought a WD "my passport" external drive, and first used it to back up

 the machine HD.  After the "must burn to disk" warning, i thought I could
 put the install file on the external drive and boot from that.  No dice!
 It seems that the WD external drives made explicitly for Mac won't boot
 from a mac.  So, what is the mac equivalent of the MBR from a 
winders drive?

 The next option seems to be a 16 GB USB stick.  I've found scripts to

 use to make a USB stick bootable using terminal.  At this point, and with
 10 dvd DL costing $20-30, it seems like the USB stick may be the shortest
 route to success.

 Anyone BTDT?  What are your thoughts, Mac guys?  Thanks

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Re: [MBZ] an interesting euro 126 that is the complete opposite of green on green

I love the maroon ext but the inside looks like numba one soul brutha 
Mr. James Brown's airplane.


--R

On 11/15/15 11:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Police pull over a car and get a surprise.


Yeah, with the other 37 people who watch it

--R

On 11/16/15 2:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe you should watch MSNBC.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Read that on Drudge a few days ago, maybe you should bookmark and keep up
with more news:

www.drudgereport.com

Impeding traffic is impeding traffic, the "operator" should have gotten the
ticket.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Police pull over self-driving car in Calif.Published: Friday, November

13,

2015



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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

Format the USB drive first.  Put it in, run Disk Utility, and create a single 
partition on it that is Mac OS Extended.  Screw the erase stuff, that’s silly.

As you know, creating a new partition on it will blow anything that’s on it 
away, so erasing is moot.  If you just bought the USB drive, I’ll bet you $10 
it’s formatted in FAT or NTFS.  Once you’ve created a new partition in a Mac 
format it should be just fine.

Then do your restore to the USB using the disk image.

Dan

 
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah,  I am following the instructions at:
> http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html
> 
>   1.  Open Disk Utility and select the Flash Drive
>   2.  Select the Erase tab on the right and then set Format to Mac OS 
> Extended (Journaled). Name the partition you'll be creating Snow Leopard or 
> OS X Install so you can keep track of your installation device. After you've 
> done this, click the Erase button.
> 
> Step 2 won't complete.  When I "click on the "erase" button,  it said the 
> source has not been verified, but offers no way to verify.   When I go to the 
> "first aid" tab of the disk utility, find the file, and click verify, it 
> verifies, but then the "restore" tab does the same thing on the nest try to 
> "restore."
> 
> I tried copy paste to put the files on the USB stick but that does not show 
> up as bootable.
> 
> Still frustrating!
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> 
>> The same. Get the image file and load it on to a bootable USB stick and 
>> you're done.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:34 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd like to upgrade my Mini to 10.8, but the DVD drive is shot.
>> > Suggestions?
>> >
>> > -MMM-
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html
 
 MacDan
 
 
>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Mac ?
> 
> I am trying to upgrade the old macbook 1.1 from 10.5 to 10.6 so I can
 get a web browser that works.
> 
> Thanks to Dan, I have the disk image for the 10.6 install.  It won't
 boot from the computer; says I have to put it on a disk.  It won't work on
 a normal dvd, but wants a dual layer DVD+ -.  There are no dual layer blank
 dvds to be bought in town, unless the univ bookstore has some tomorrow.
 None at floormart or at worstbuy.  Staples packed up the tent and left.
> 
> I bought a WD "my passport" external drive, and first used it to back up
 the machine HD.  After the "must burn to disk" warning, i thought I could
 put the install file on the external drive and boot from that.  No dice!
 It seems that the WD external drives made explicitly for Mac won't boot
 from a mac.  So, what is the mac equivalent of the MBR from a winders 
 drive?
> 
> The next option seems to be a 16 GB USB stick.  I've found scripts to
 use to make a USB stick bootable using terminal.  At this point, and with
 10 dvd DL costing $20-30, it seems like the USB stick may be the shortest
 route to success.
> 
> Anyone BTDT?  What are your thoughts, Mac guys?  Thanks
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

In Disk Utility, you’ll see both the physical disk, then the volume that’s on 
it below.  You won’t see the Partition tab unless you’re highlighting the 
physical disk, NOT the volume.



Dan


> On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I see part of the problem.  the disk utility is supposed to have a "Partition 
> " tab that lets you install the GUID.  Mine (10.6.8) has only 4 tabs; first 
> aid, erase, RAID, restore.
> 
> **Prior message:***
> 
> 
> Yeah,  I am following the instructions at:
> http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html
> 
>   1.  Open Disk Utility and select the Flash Drive
>   2.  Select the Erase tab on the right and then set Format to Mac OS 
> Extended (Journaled). Name the partition you'll be creating Snow Leopard or 
> OS X Install so you can keep track of your installation device. After you've 
> done this, click the Erase button.
> 
> Step 2 won't complete.  When I "click on the "erase" button,  it said the 
> source has not been verified, but offers no way to verify.   When I go to the 
> "first aid" tab of the disk utility, find the file, and click verify, it 
> verifies, but then the "restore" tab does the same thing on the nest try to 
> "restore."
> 
> I tried copy paste to put the files on the USB stick but that does not show 
> up as bootable.
> 
> Still frustrating!
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> 
>> The same. Get the image file and load it on to a bootable USB stick and 
>> you're done.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:34 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd like to upgrade my Mini to 10.8, but the DVD drive is shot.
>> > Suggestions?
>> >
>> > -MMM-
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html
 
 MacDan
 
 
>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Mac ?
> 
> I am trying to upgrade the old macbook 1.1 from 10.5 to 10.6 so I can
 get a web browser that works.
> 
> Thanks to Dan, I have the disk image for the 10.6 install.  It won't
 boot from the computer; says I have to put it on a disk.  It won't work on
 a normal dvd, but wants a dual layer DVD+ -.  There are no dual layer blank
 dvds to be bought in town, unless the univ bookstore has some tomorrow.
 None at floormart or at worstbuy.  Staples packed up the tent and left.
> 
> I bought a WD "my passport" external drive, and first used it to back up
 the machine HD.  After the "must burn to disk" warning, i thought I could
 put the install file on the external drive and boot from that.  No dice!
 It seems that the WD external drives made explicitly for Mac won't boot
 from a mac.  So, what is the mac equivalent of the MBR from a winders 
 drive?
> 
> The next option seems to be a 16 GB USB stick.  I've found scripts to
 use to make a USB stick bootable using terminal.  At this point, and with
 10 dvd DL costing $20-30, it seems like the USB stick may be the shortest
 route to success.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Police pull over a car and get a surprise.

All I watch is High Heat.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> Yeah, with the other 37 people who watch it
>
> --R
>
> On 11/16/15 2:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Maybe you should watch MSNBC.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Read that on Drudge a few days ago, maybe you should bookmark and keep up
>>> with more news:
>>>
>>> www.drudgereport.com
>>>
>>> Impeding traffic is impeding traffic, the "operator" should have gotten
>>> the
>>> ticket.
>>>
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Police pull over self-driving car in Calif.Published: Friday, November

>>> 13,
>>>
 2015


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Re: [MBZ] Police pull over a car and get a surprise.


They got that many more viewers?


Yeah, with the other 37 people who watch it

--R

On 11/16/15 2:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe you should watch MSNBC.


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Re: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

IIRC some deoxit applied to the rheostat worked well to correct this on
mine.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

I twiddled until I was dizzy, but will keep on trying.  Come to think of it,
it behaved erratically when we went for a trip to the shore in September...

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Twiddle the rheostat a bunch, I've had them seem completely dead for a 
> surprisingly long period of time before they came back.
> If that doesn't help try pushing the cluster around a little, could be 
> a bad ground but that should make the temp rise erroniously and the 
> fuel gauge pulse with the clock...
> -Curt
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 2:57 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123
>
> The dash lights (including all instrument cluster gauges and ACC 
> control
> panel) on my 1985 300TD quit working when I took the car for a spin 
> after it had sat idle for a couple weeks.  The radio lights continue 
> to work, however.
>
> I fiddled with the dimmer control know but nothing changed, and the 
> lights did NOT come on briefly/intermittently while i was twisting the 
> knob back and forth.  Other than the rheostat, could anything else be 
> causing these symptoms?
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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

Yeah, I finally figgered out it was not showing me the USB Stick, but 
the partition on it.  Once I found out how to see the stick, then the 
partition tab showed up.


Right now it is loading the OS on the stick FINALLY!


Format the USB drive first.  Put it in, run Disk Utility, and create 
a single partition on it that is Mac OS Extended.  Screw the erase 
stuff, that's silly.


As you know, creating a new partition on it will blow anything 
that's on it away, so erasing is moot.  If you just bought the USB 
drive, I'll bet you $10 it's formatted in FAT or NTFS.  Once you've 
created a new partition in a Mac format it should be just fine.


Then do your restore to the USB using the disk image.

Dan


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[MBZ] Pastafarian driver's licence photo

2015-11-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

http://fox17online.com/2015/11/16/pastafarian-woman-wins-right-to-wear-spaghetti-strainer-religious-head-wear-in-drivers-license/

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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

2015-11-16 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

Fair enow.  Got a good source?  I'm cheap and don't wanna pay $20 to
Apple.   ;-)

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The same. Get the image file and load it on to a bootable USB stick and
> you're done.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:34 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to upgrade my Mini to 10.8, but the DVD drive is shot.
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > -MMM-
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html
> >>
> >> MacDan
> >>
> >>
>  On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mac ?
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to upgrade the old macbook 1.1 from 10.5 to 10.6 so I can
> >> get a web browser that works.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to Dan, I have the disk image for the 10.6 install.  It won't
> >> boot from the computer; says I have to put it on a disk.  It won't work
> on
> >> a normal dvd, but wants a dual layer DVD+ -.  There are no dual layer
> blank
> >> dvds to be bought in town, unless the univ bookstore has some tomorrow.
> >> None at floormart or at worstbuy.  Staples packed up the tent and left.
> >>>
> >>> I bought a WD "my passport" external drive, and first used it to back
> up
> >> the machine HD.  After the "must burn to disk" warning, i thought I
> could
> >> put the install file on the external drive and boot from that.  No dice!
> >> It seems that the WD external drives made explicitly for Mac won't boot
> >> from a mac.  So, what is the mac equivalent of the MBR from a winders
> drive?
> >>>
> >>> The next option seems to be a 16 GB USB stick.  I've found scripts to
> >> use to make a USB stick bootable using terminal.  At this point, and
> with
> >> 10 dvd DL costing $20-30, it seems like the USB stick may be the
> shortest
> >> route to success.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone BTDT?  What are your thoughts, Mac guys?  Thanks
> >>>
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[MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

The dash lights (including all instrument cluster gauges and ACC control
panel) on my 1985 300TD quit working when I took the car for a spin after
it had sat idle for a couple weeks.  The radio lights continue to work,
however.

I fiddled with the dimmer control know but nothing changed, and the lights
did NOT come on briefly/intermittently while i was twisting the knob back
and forth.  Other than the rheostat, could anything else be causing these
symptoms?
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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

The same. Get the image file and load it on to a bootable USB stick and you're 
done.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:34 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to upgrade my Mini to 10.8, but the DVD drive is shot.
> Suggestions?
> 
> -MMM-
> 
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html
>> 
>> MacDan
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mac ?
>>> 
>>> I am trying to upgrade the old macbook 1.1 from 10.5 to 10.6 so I can
>> get a web browser that works.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Dan, I have the disk image for the 10.6 install.  It won't
>> boot from the computer; says I have to put it on a disk.  It won't work on
>> a normal dvd, but wants a dual layer DVD+ -.  There are no dual layer blank
>> dvds to be bought in town, unless the univ bookstore has some tomorrow.
>> None at floormart or at worstbuy.  Staples packed up the tent and left.
>>> 
>>> I bought a WD "my passport" external drive, and first used it to back up
>> the machine HD.  After the "must burn to disk" warning, i thought I could
>> put the install file on the external drive and boot from that.  No dice!
>> It seems that the WD external drives made explicitly for Mac won't boot
>> from a mac.  So, what is the mac equivalent of the MBR from a winders drive?
>>> 
>>> The next option seems to be a 16 GB USB stick.  I've found scripts to
>> use to make a USB stick bootable using terminal.  At this point, and with
>> 10 dvd DL costing $20-30, it seems like the USB stick may be the shortest
>> route to success.
>>> 
>>> Anyone BTDT?  What are your thoughts, Mac guys?  Thanks
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Re: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

I twiddled until I was dizzy, but will keep on trying.  Come to think of
it, it behaved erratically when we went for a trip to the shore in
September...

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Twiddle the rheostat a bunch, I've had them seem completely dead for a
> surprisingly long period of time before they came back.
> If that doesn't help try pushing the cluster around a little, could be a
> bad ground but that should make the temp rise erroniously and the fuel
> gauge pulse with the clock...
> -Curt
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 2:57 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123
>
> The dash lights (including all instrument cluster gauges and ACC control
> panel) on my 1985 300TD quit working when I took the car for a spin after
> it had sat idle for a couple weeks.  The radio lights continue to work,
> however.
>
> I fiddled with the dimmer control know but nothing changed, and the lights
> did NOT come on briefly/intermittently while i was twisting the knob back
> and forth.  Other than the rheostat, could anything else be causing these
> symptoms?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

I guess you don't listen to NPR then... that has been their mindset for 
14 years 2 months and 4 days.  The guy this morning just couldn't 
understand why the French and Belgians and whoever were not concerned 
about the sensibilities in the "working-class" neighborhoods, which I 
think are not particularly related much to "working" given the amount of 
free sh..tuff they get.


--R

On 11/16/15 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it will
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class"
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy was
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and
bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other

sources saying different?

-Curt

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   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
 
Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press

reporting vs. "ground truth"?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

I listened to NPR this morning and didn't hear that part. The govt. is
aggressively rounding up suspects and weapons caches, and bombing ISIS
camps in Syria.  What's wrong with that?

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I guess you don't listen to NPR then... that has been their mindset for 14
> years 2 months and 4 days.  The guy this morning just couldn't understand
> why the French and Belgians and whoever were not concerned about the
> sensibilities in the "working-class" neighborhoods, which I think are not
> particularly related much to "working" given the amount of free sh..tuff
> they get.
>
> --R
>
> On 11/16/15 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:
>>
>> "The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it
>> will
>> result in rampant islamophobia."
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
>> Thomas via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:31 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Rich Thomas
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>>
>> NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class"
>> neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy
>> was
>> extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently
>> "no-go"
>> zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."
>> The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and
>> bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other
>>>
>> sources saying different?
>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>> From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Max Dillon 
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>>>  Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American
>>> press
>>>
>> reporting vs. "ground truth"?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Dune

I will argue that point.  I found him to be a superb story spinner with an 
almost Heinlein grasp of his universe.  Brian is raking in the cash on his 
father's fame

clay


On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

> Sad that Herbert had only the one fine novel in him.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via 
> Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:19 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: OK Don
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dune
> 
> The movie sucks - read the book.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Was flipping thru channels and Dune was starting. Did anybody 
>> understand this movie? The only thing I recall is large worms under 
>> the ground and something about spice. I never did get into this movie.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> --
> OK Don
> 
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who 
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for 
> themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dune

Little Alicia Witt still scares the feces out of my kid.  Sting was 
entertaining.  Kyle McLaughlin can still not shake the type casting

clay

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Re: [MBZ] This could be decent

Dealer has his 2004 Maybach on the floor.  A few of us were trying to figure 
out what the bottom price would be.  I thought maybe $35k before it goes back 
up and restorable.  Floor price now is $160k


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On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> At that price and assuming it's running, this car cannot possibly
> depreciate.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Plus ya gotta keep wiping the bug splats off the rear window.  ;-)
>>> 
>> 
>> The 200D 2.4 is very peppy!
>> 
>> I'd say it would respond well if you put in a OM601 turbo!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

YeaH! that was really interesting.  Maybe that is the only way for peace to be 
had in the Middle East


clay

On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

> Does anyone recall the Xfiles episode where Mulder meets a genie and makes a 
> wish for world peace?
>> 
>> Mao writes:
>> 
>>> ‎Give peace a chance.
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan now whatever 10.6 was called

I have the universal that I can lend.

clay


On Nov 14, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> they are machine specific unless you buy the universal install disk. I have 
> 10.6, but it is specific to the MBPro 8,1.
> 
>> You can download it.  I have an imac dvd but I think they are machine 
>> specific?
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> On 11/14/15 10:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>>> In order to try  10.11 on the macbook 1.1, I have to install first 10.6 or 
>>> newer.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a 10.6 or newer universal install dvd you would sell?  
>>> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan now whatever 10.6 was called

He’s good.  I got him the universal disk image over the weekend.

Dan


> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:17 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I have the universal that I can lend.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> they are machine specific unless you buy the universal install disk. I have 
>> 10.6, but it is specific to the MBPro 8,1.
>> 
>>> You can download it.  I have an imac dvd but I think they are machine 
>>> specific?
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> On 11/14/15 10:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
 In order to try  10.11 on the macbook 1.1, I have to install first 10.6 or 
 newer.
 
 Does anyone have a 10.6 or newer universal install dvd you would sell?  
 Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

I have a feeling I would be way out of my okie element in any of these 
locations. At the end of the day if I were to proceed and did by some long shot 
get the move up, it would mean a fundamental change of life style. I would have 
to sell all or most of my cars and parts. In the end I am not sore of the money 
would be worth it or not.

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Boise is nice if you don’t mind winter.  It’s surprisingly mild, much like 
> Denver can be, due to the location.  I would absolutely go to Boise if I had 
> to move north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
> 
> You’ll have to put up with a lot of Mormons, though.  It’s sort of a second 
> Salt Lake City of sorts.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places 
>> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think 
>> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business 
>> in NM.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Grand Junction?  Are you nuts?  He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation.  
>>> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your 
>>> neighborhood.
>>> 
>>> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks.  Eastern Oregon 
>>> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state.
>>> 
>>> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re 
>>> covering an area like that.
>>> 
>>> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in 
>>> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going 
>>> to be significantly higher.  I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect 
>>> that?
>>> 
>>> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable 
>>> as where you are now.  However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure 
>>> how that compares to where you are now.  Mao and Craig have lived in those 
>>> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information 
>>> might be a bit dated.
>>> 
>>> How’s about Albuquerque, NM?  Good location, probably a decent cost of 
>>> living.
>>> 
>>> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about 
>>> have to live near a major airport I would expect.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job 
> at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having 
> to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue 
> would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money 
> would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I 
> think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way 
> too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
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 High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.
 
 My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times I've 
 been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested by the 
 fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be nice before 
 the invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.
 
 Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. WY 
 has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole.
 
 From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a western 
 town, Gallup is IT!
 
 Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, 
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Re: [MBZ] "Light front end damage" (It'll buff right out)

Offer them $500.  Not much to salvage on that thing

clay

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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Idaho or Utah are relatively inexpensive.  ABQ is nice, I hear.  Maybe 
Flagstaff.  The coastal states are either tax you to death or cost an arm and 
leg in metro regions.

clay


On Nov 16, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing 
> my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but 
> would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in 
> Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do 
> with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the 
> additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast 
> would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking 
> Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. 
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Re: [MBZ] Dune

2015-11-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

I'd forgotten Lynch was the director.  That's the main reason it was  
so bad, watching a movie he directed is like taking a dozen Quaaludes  
and hour.  I don't think the guy has seen sunlight since 1968.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris



Didja hear the prez?
Those were his lines.
He sounded quite good, I thought.
mao


He sounded like the complete and utterly vacant mor on he is!

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Re: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

Bad ground or a crack in the trace on the cluster.  Don't remember 
if that's the same rheostat as the W108/W116, in which case it's 
probably easier to jumper it when it goes bad, no longer available 
if it's too corroded to work anymore.


Peter


Same.   Same on 110/111/112/113 also.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

I find it strange the governors that are calling to end allowing of 
Syrian refugee into the US just because one of the terrorists MIGHT 
have been Syrian. Apparently they didn't notice that crazies come 
from all over and you can't prevent crazies from doing crazy 
things...

-Curt


Then you don't understand their culture OR their religion at all.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

<<... crazies come from all over and you can't prevent crazies from doing crazy 
things...>>

But:

Most of the "refugees" are not refugees at all but are taking advantage of the 
flow to conceal some other motivation.

Adherents of the caliphate are a special kind of crazy, part of a culture of 
which "crazy" is an integral part. They should not be equated to domestic 
crazies like the Batman movie shooter. They are capable of planning, funding, 
and arming coordinated attacks, and doing so with adequate opsec.

We can prevent many of them from doing their crazy things here.

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attacks, so it matters little whether 
or not the attackers were actually Syrian citizens. They have also revealed 
that they intend to imbed with the "refugees".

While we may have an obligation to relieve the suffering of refugees, our 
government has a greater obligation to protect the homeland and our own 
citizens.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 3:53 PM
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Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

I find it strange the governors that are calling to end allowing of Syrian 
refugee into the US just because one of the terrorists MIGHT have been Syrian. 
Apparently they didn't notice that crazies come from all over and you can't 
prevent crazies from doing crazy things...
-Curt

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 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it will 
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

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NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class" 
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy was 
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class." The "working" 
that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and bomb-vest materials 
by certain members of the "working class" there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are 
> other
sources saying different?
> -Curt
>
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>  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>
> Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American 
> press
reporting vs. "ground truth"?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

You never watched the early iteration of CNN International, which I used to see 
in overseas hotels on a regular basis.  They would rotate the stories every 30 
minutes, so that if you watched more than an hour you saw the same stuff, over 
and over again, with minor embellishments.

I once watched it for a whole day when I was stuck in a Sofitel at DeGaulle.  
Only English speaking channel they had. I was so bored I wanted to rip my eyes 
out.

I did enjoy seeing Tom and Jerry in French, though.

Dan

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
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> 
> Speaking of differences in news presentations, over ten years ago we had a 
> local radio station that broadcast CNN HLN audio, Robin Meade was big then, 
> and I would listen from about 6:30 a.m. until 7 while driving to work.  Once 
> at work, we'd have a short meeting right after 7, and then I'd have some dead 
> time until 8; flip on the cable tv in the conference room and watch Robin 
> present the same stories from the previous hour.  The slant of the stories 
> would change, from one end of the political spectrum to the other.  Same 
> stories, just different emphasis / details / opinions.
> 
> I'm sure other news stations do the same, they know which demographic watches 
> when, so they try to tell the audience what it wants to hear.
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
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> 
> On November 16, 2015 4:07:31 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> They have one of their newest newsreaders over there interviewing 
>> people, he asked some guy about offending sensibilities with their 
>> rounding up of these a..holes.  He was all perturbed over that, and 
>> incredulous they weren't holding a kumbaya party or something.  I think
>> 
>> it was before 7AM.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dune

You would need to read the book to understand the movie.  If you understood 
Twin Pines tv show, then this is not far off the weird scale.

clay

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> Was flipping thru channels and Dune was starting. Did anybody understand this 
> movie? The only thing I recall is large worms under the ground and something 
> about spice. I never did get into this movie. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Grand Junction?  Are you nuts?  He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation.  
Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your neighborhood.

Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks.  Eastern Oregon is 
pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state.

Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re 
covering an area like that.

As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in 
Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to be 
significantly higher.  I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that?

Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable as 
where you are now.  However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure how 
that compares to where you are now.  Mao and Craig have lived in those parts, 
but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information might be a 
bit dated.

How’s about Albuquerque, NM?  Good location, probably a decent cost of living.

If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about have 
to live near a major airport I would expect.

Dan

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
>> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at 
>> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to 
>> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be 
>> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if 
>> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in 
>> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I 
>> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
>> 
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> High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.
> 
> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times I've 
> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested by the 
> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be nice before the 
> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.
> 
> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. WY has 
> been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole.
> 
> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a western 
> town, Gallup is IT!
> 
> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so 
> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Understanding ISIS

Greg wrote:
> A liberal friend of mine posted this Atlantic article:

I like your summary from the article - enough to whet the appetite.
Was any consideration given to the thought that these events are false
flag escapades?
I also liked the expression I heard today about the evidence for the
recent atrocity as false flag.
Interesting times - thanks for the article.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places like 
Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think I would 
want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business in NM.

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Grand Junction?  Are you nuts?  He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation.  
> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your neighborhood.
> 
> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks.  Eastern Oregon 
> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state.
> 
> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re 
> covering an area like that.
> 
> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in 
> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to 
> be significantly higher.  I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that?
> 
> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable as 
> where you are now.  However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure how 
> that compares to where you are now.  Mao and Craig have lived in those parts, 
> but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information might be a 
> bit dated.
> 
> How’s about Albuquerque, NM?  Good location, probably a decent cost of living.
> 
> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about have 
> to live near a major airport I would expect.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
>>> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at 
>>> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to 
>>> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be 
>>> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if 
>>> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in 
>>> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I 
>>> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
>>> 
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>> High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.
>> 
>> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times I've 
>> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested by the 
>> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be nice before the 
>> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.
>> 
>> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. WY has 
>> been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole.
>> 
>> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a western 
>> town, Gallup is IT!
>> 
>> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so 
>> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows.
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Boise is nice if you don’t mind winter.  It’s surprisingly mild, much like 
Denver can be, due to the location.  I would absolutely go to Boise if I had to 
move north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

You’ll have to put up with a lot of Mormons, though.  It’s sort of a second 
Salt Lake City of sorts.

Dan


> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places 
> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think 
> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business 
> in NM.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Grand Junction?  Are you nuts?  He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation.  
>> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your 
>> neighborhood.
>> 
>> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks.  Eastern Oregon 
>> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state.
>> 
>> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re 
>> covering an area like that.
>> 
>> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in 
>> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to 
>> be significantly higher.  I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that?
>> 
>> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable 
>> as where you are now.  However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure 
>> how that compares to where you are now.  Mao and Craig have lived in those 
>> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information 
>> might be a bit dated.
>> 
>> How’s about Albuquerque, NM?  Good location, probably a decent cost of 
>> living.
>> 
>> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about 
>> have to live near a major airport I would expect.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
 throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at 
 work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to 
 live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be 
 what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if 
 it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living 
 in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high 
 there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
 
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>>> 
>>> High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.
>>> 
>>> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times I've 
>>> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested by the 
>>> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be nice before the 
>>> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.
>>> 
>>> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. WY 
>>> has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole.
>>> 
>>> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a western 
>>> town, Gallup is IT!
>>> 
>>> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so 
>>> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows.
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Forgot SAlt lake city 

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places 
> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think 
> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business 
> in NM.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Grand Junction?  Are you nuts?  He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation.  
>> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your 
>> neighborhood.
>> 
>> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks.  Eastern Oregon 
>> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state.
>> 
>> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re 
>> covering an area like that.
>> 
>> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in 
>> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to 
>> be significantly higher.  I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that?
>> 
>> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable 
>> as where you are now.  However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure 
>> how that compares to where you are now.  Mao and Craig have lived in those 
>> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information 
>> might be a bit dated.
>> 
>> How’s about Albuquerque, NM?  Good location, probably a decent cost of 
>> living.
>> 
>> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about 
>> have to live near a major airport I would expect.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
 throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at 
 work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to 
 live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be 
 what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if 
 it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living 
 in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high 
 there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
 
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>>> 
>>> High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.
>>> 
>>> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times I've 
>>> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested by the 
>>> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be nice before the 
>>> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.
>>> 
>>> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. WY 
>>> has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole.
>>> 
>>> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a western 
>>> town, Gallup is IT!
>>> 
>>> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so 
>>> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows.
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Eh, you don’t want to go there.  Trust me.

Dan


> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Forgot SAlt lake city 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places 
>> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think 
>> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business 
>> in NM.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan now whatever 10.6 was called

I got him an image of Snow Lion (10.6)

Dan

 
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:20 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> El capitan will not function on the 1,1 macbook.  Too slow and will not take 
> enough ram.  that is why I upgraded my book
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> In order to try  10.11 on the macbook 1.1, I have to install first 10.6 or 
>> newer.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a 10.6 or newer universal install dvd you would sell?  
>> Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

Snag an external DVD drive and go USB or Firewire.  You can also use another 
mac to install it

clay

On Nov 16, 2015, at 2:34 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

> I'd like to upgrade my Mini to 10.8, but the DVD drive is shot.
> Suggestions?
> 
> -MMM-
> 
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html
>> 
>> MacDan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mac ?
>>> 
>>> I am trying to upgrade the old macbook 1.1 from 10.5 to 10.6 so I can
>> get a web browser that works.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Dan, I have the disk image for the 10.6 install.  It won't
>> boot from the computer; says I have to put it on a disk.  It won't work on
>> a normal dvd, but wants a dual layer DVD+ -.  There are no dual layer blank
>> dvds to be bought in town, unless the univ bookstore has some tomorrow.
>> None at floormart or at worstbuy.  Staples packed up the tent and left.
>>> 
>>> I bought a WD "my passport" external drive, and first used it to back up
>> the machine HD.  After the "must burn to disk" warning, i thought I could
>> put the install file on the external drive and boot from that.  No dice!
>> It seems that the WD external drives made explicitly for Mac won't boot
>> from a mac.  So, what is the mac equivalent of the MBR from a winders drive?
>>> 
>>> The next option seems to be a 16 GB USB stick.  I've found scripts to
>> use to make a USB stick bootable using terminal.  At this point, and with
>> 10 dvd DL costing $20-30, it seems like the USB stick may be the shortest
>> route to success.
>>> 
>>> Anyone BTDT?  What are your thoughts, Mac guys?  Thanks
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

I am currently a manager. This job would be managing our market manager. Right 
now I manage my employees and run my market. This job would be managing the 
entire region. I agree not sure I would be happy getting rid of all my crap. It 
would be a big change and don't think this risk and hassle would outweigh the 
reward. Now if the spot opened up in our region it would be a no brainier as I 
would not have to relocate.

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
>> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at 
>> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to 
>> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be 
>> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if 
>> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in 
>> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I 
>> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
> ~~~
> Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes?
> It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and move.
> Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and you 
> usually get blamed for what your underlings do.
> Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab rat.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

2015-11-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

That's what I'd like to know.  During 9/11, Italian news (and probably others) 
were way ahead of American news, with more detail.  SWMBO called relatives 
there and started relaying details to me, at work, while I was watching CNN.   
I was getting angry about how much more info was available to that audience.  
Maybe European news agencies simply had more experience reporting on terror, 
and were wide awake?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 16, 2015 12:29:24 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are
>other sources saying different?
>-Curt
>
>  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Cc: Max Dillon  
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>   
>Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press
>reporting vs. "ground truth"?  
>-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix / Relocation

No matter how good the deal, you always lose in a relocation.  I don’t say that 
to be negative or discourage anyone from doing so; rather, to make them 
understand that the costs related to moving and setting up household in a new 
location will always cost you more than the basic expense f relocation itself.

If you plan well and do some good record keeping, the tax benefits can offset 
some of that expense, but not all.

What the motivation is is what really counts here.  For example, I have 
relocated four times.  Each time the reasons were different.

1.) Indianapolis to Wisconsin (Kohler).  Bare minimum expenses were covered, 
the better part was out of pocket.  Our motivation was career-oriented, so we 
knew that if we made the move in the long term it would pay off.  It did.  We 
both built our careers and incomes substantially by making this move.

2.) Wisconsin to Florida.  All expenses covered, professional movers/packers, 
etc.  Nicest, easiest move I ever made.  Motivation was to slow down career, 
spend more time with family, stop traveling.  Achieved all of that and more.

3.) Florida back to Indianapolis.  Major expenses covered, but we had to do all 
the work. Brutal, time consuming, took over our lives for several weeks.  
Motivation was career oriented for both of us.  Economy tanked two months after 
we arrived, as did everything else.  Ouch.

4.) Indianapolis back to Florida. Completely out of pocket, finally putting 
much of that debt to rest these days, thank goodness.  Done in stages so it 
wasn’t a major hassle, but still damned unpleasant and costly.  Motivation?  
Get the hell out of the North and back to Florida.  Mission accomplished.

I guess my point is that there are a lot of reasons why you might relocate, but 
don’t do it on a whim or because the position pays more.  Salary increases make 
little difference on your living style, and are often incremental in reality if 
you’re moving to a more expensive location.  A change of scenery or a true 
desire to live in another part of the country is a good reason, but again, 
you’re not doing this for personal gain - because you won’t.  And if this is 
your reason, for gosh sakes, please, please do your due diligence and carefully 
scout out the location and environs.  Spend a lot of time researching things, 
and spend as much time as you possibly can in the area and talking to people 
who actually live there to understand what it’s like.  I say this because you 
can’t imagine how many people who visit Florida will say that they want to move 
here after a week at Disney World.

Day to day life here has nothing to do with Disney World, or any of the 
“attractions” for that matter.  Or going to the beach.  People who envision 
some sort of Utopian lifestyle because we live near the ocean or the Mouse are 
experiencing an altered reality that just doesn’t exist.  My days here are 
little different from what they were anywhere else I've lived.  I have to go to 
work, take care of family and household matter, deal with the daily issues of 
life we all do no matter where we live.  it has nothing to do with the beach or 
going to Busch Gardens, nor is that an option.

Dan 

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You know that is exactly why I posted this here because I was sure others in 
> this list have relocated for work before. The VP of our company got fired a 
> while back and my boss was one that applied for it. Turns out the west coast 
> regional got moved up. If my boss would have got it then I would have been 
> going after his job. I will put it this way, last year a rep job with carfax 
> was open which never happens. I interviewed for it but they ended up going 
> with a friend of mine who was an internal candidate. I would have moved from 
> my management job to a much less stressful rep job at carfax for much larger 
> base but lower bonus portion. It thing that move would have netted about 10k 
> more per year. So just from talking to my boss the base for a regional 
> manager job with our company would come in a little less than the rep job at 
> carfax. Not sure what the bonus is but that is where I'm getting the idea 
> it's not worth it to relocate.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

Andrew wrote:
> What's wrong with that?

That irritates the "enemy" more, perchance?
Also, that seems the same as VietNam?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Dune

I never watched twin peaks or understood it. I did take a date to that twin 
peaks movie back in the early 90's and had no clue what was happening in that 
movie.

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:57 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> You would need to read the book to understand the movie.  If you understood 
> Twin Pines tv show, then this is not far off the weird scale.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> Was flipping thru channels and Dune was starting. Did anybody understand 
>> this movie? The only thing I recall is large worms under the ground and 
>> something about spice. I never did get into this movie. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan now whatever 10.6 was called

El capitan will not function on the 1,1 macbook.  Too slow and will not take 
enough ram.  that is why I upgraded my book

clay


On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> In order to try  10.11 on the macbook 1.1, I have to install first 10.6 or 
> newer.
> 
> Does anyone have a 10.6 or newer universal install dvd you would sell?  
> Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

--R wrote:
> ...war was not the answer, that we
> needed to sit down and talk with them and come to some understanding...

Didja hear the prez?
Those were his lines.
He sounded quite good, I thought.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Understanding ISIS

<< Was any consideration given to the thought that these events are false
flag escapades?>>

Note that this article was written in 03/15. My opinion is that it is
extremely unlikely that the Paris abominations were false flag ops,
especially since ISIS has claimed responsibility.

Greg

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Greg wrote:
> A liberal friend of mine posted this Atlantic article:

I like your summary from the article - enough to whet the appetite.
Was any consideration given to the thought that these events are false flag
escapades?
I also liked the expression I heard today about the evidence for the recent
atrocity as false flag.
Interesting times - thanks for the article.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Suddenly dead cluster lights - 1985 W123

2015-11-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Bad ground or a crack in the trace on the cluster.  Don't remember if  
that's the same rheostat as the W108/W116, in which case it's probably  
easier to jumper it when it goes bad, no longer available if it's too  
corroded to work anymore.


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Re: [MBZ] Dune

Yeah, sorry.  Twin pines was the no tell motel

clay

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> “Twin Pines”?
> 
> Do you mean “Twin Peaks”?
> 
> Confused Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:57 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> You would need to read the book to understand the movie.  If you understood 
>> Twin Pines tv show, then this is not far off the weird scale.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

The grass is always greener, but in reality, it rarely is.  Stay put, enjoy 
your stuff and family, and when the next notch up the ladder presents itself in 
your neighborhood, go for it.

I can assure you that in relocations like this, no matter how good they sound, 
how much of the costs the company covers, or how much more money you make, you 
ALWAYS lose.  Sometimes more than others, but you always come out a little less 
when the dust settles.

Take it from someone who has done it more than once.

Dan

 
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am currently a manager. This job would be managing our market manager. 
> Right now I manage my employees and run my market. This job would be managing 
> the entire region. I agree not sure I would be happy getting rid of all my 
> crap. It would be a big change and don't think this risk and hassle would 
> outweigh the reward. Now if the spot opened up in our region it would be a no 
> brainier as I would not have to relocate.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> 
>>> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
>>> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at 
>>> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to 
>>> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be 
>>> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if 
>>> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in 
>>> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I 
>>> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
>> ~~~
>> Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes?
>> It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and move.
>> Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and you 
>> usually get blamed for what your underlings do.
>> Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab rat.
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Major or Minor airport?  The commuter airports in smaller markets hook into the 
big boys.  Euguene, Medford, or Redmond Oregon; Bellingham, Wenatchee, Walla 
Walla, Spokane, Tri-Cities, WA,;  Boise, Idaho Falls or Lewiston far from major 
cities.   There is always Reno.  More temperate than LV.

clay



On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places 
> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think 
> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business 
> in NM.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Grand Junction?  Are you nuts?  He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation.  
>> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your 
>> neighborhood.
>> 
>> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks.  Eastern Oregon 
>> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state.
>> 
>> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re 
>> covering an area like that.
>> 
>> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in 
>> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going to 
>> be significantly higher.  I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect that?
>> 
>> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable 
>> as where you are now.  However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure 
>> how that compares to where you are now.  Mao and Craig have lived in those 
>> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information 
>> might be a bit dated.
>> 
>> How’s about Albuquerque, NM?  Good location, probably a decent cost of 
>> living.
>> 
>> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about 
>> have to live near a major airport I would expect.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
 throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at 
 work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to 
 live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be 
 what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if 
 it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living 
 in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high 
 there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
 
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>>> High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.
>>> 
>>> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times I've 
>>> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested by the 
>>> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be nice before the 
>>> invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.
>>> 
>>> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. WY 
>>> has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole.
>>> 
>>> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a western 
>>> town, Gallup is IT!
>>> 
>>> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, so 
>>> mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows.
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Oooh!  I forgot about Reno, my very favorite Western city, and my jumping off 
spot for visits to Yosemite.

Virginia City is really cool, too, but it’s not someplace you would want to 
live, I think.  Maybe Bridgeport CA.

Dan


> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:07 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Major or Minor airport?  The commuter airports in smaller markets hook into 
> the big boys.  Euguene, Medford, or Redmond Oregon; Bellingham, Wenatchee, 
> Walla Walla, Spokane, Tri-Cities, WA,;  Boise, Idaho Falls or Lewiston far 
> from major cities.   There is always Reno.  More temperate than LV.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places 
>> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would think 
>> I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any business 
>> in NM.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Grand Junction?  Are you nuts?  He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation.  
>>> Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your 
>>> neighborhood.
>>> 
>>> Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks.  Eastern Oregon 
>>> is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state.
>>> 
>>> Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re 
>>> covering an area like that.
>>> 
>>> As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in 
>>> Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going 
>>> to be significantly higher.  I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect 
>>> that?
>>> 
>>> Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable 
>>> as where you are now.  However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure 
>>> how that compares to where you are now.  Mao and Craig have lived in those 
>>> parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information 
>>> might be a bit dated.
>>> 
>>> How’s about Albuquerque, NM?  Good location, probably a decent cost of 
>>> living.
>>> 
>>> If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about 
>>> have to live near a major airport I would expect.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job 
> at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having 
> to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue 
> would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money 
> would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I 
> think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way 
> too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
> 
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 High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.
 
 My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times I've 
 been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested by the 
 fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be nice before 
 the invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.
 
 Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. WY 
 has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole.
 
 From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a western 
 town, Gallup is IT!
 
 Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, 
 so mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

2015-11-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Speaking of differences in news presentations, over ten years ago we had a 
local radio station that broadcast CNN HLN audio, Robin Meade was big then, and 
I would listen from about 6:30 a.m. until 7 while driving to work.  Once at 
work, we'd have a short meeting right after 7, and then I'd have some dead time 
until 8; flip on the cable tv in the conference room and watch Robin present 
the same stories from the previous hour.  The slant of the stories would 
change, from one end of the political spectrum to the other.  Same stories, 
just different emphasis / details / opinions.

I'm sure other news stations do the same, they know which demographic watches 
when, so they try to tell the audience what it wants to hear.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On November 16, 2015 4:07:31 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>They have one of their newest newsreaders over there interviewing 
>people, he asked some guy about offending sensibilities with their 
>rounding up of these a..holes.  He was all perturbed over that, and 
>incredulous they weren't holding a kumbaya party or something.  I think
>
>it was before 7AM.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

You know that is exactly why I posted this here because I was sure others in 
this list have relocated for work before. The VP of our company got fired a 
while back and my boss was one that applied for it. Turns out the west coast 
regional got moved up. If my boss would have got it then I would have been 
going after his job. I will put it this way, last year a rep job with carfax 
was open which never happens. I interviewed for it but they ended up going with 
a friend of mine who was an internal candidate. I would have moved from my 
management job to a much less stressful rep job at carfax for much larger base 
but lower bonus portion. It thing that move would have netted about 10k more 
per year. So just from talking to my boss the base for a regional manager job 
with our company would come in a little less than the rep job at carfax. Not 
sure what the bonus is but that is where I'm getting the idea it's not worth it 
to relocate.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The grass is always greener, but in reality, it rarely is.  Stay put, enjoy 
> your stuff and family, and when the next notch up the ladder presents itself 
> in your neighborhood, go for it.
> 
> I can assure you that in relocations like this, no matter how good they 
> sound, how much of the costs the company covers, or how much more money you 
> make, you ALWAYS lose.  Sometimes more than others, but you always come out a 
> little less when the dust settles.
> 
> Take it from someone who has done it more than once.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am currently a manager. This job would be managing our market manager. 
>> Right now I manage my employees and run my market. This job would be 
>> managing the entire region. I agree not sure I would be happy getting rid of 
>> all my crap. It would be a big change and don't think this risk and hassle 
>> would outweigh the reward. Now if the spot opened up in our region it would 
>> be a no brainier as I would not have to relocate.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>> 
 What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
 throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at 
 work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to 
 live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be 
 what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if 
 it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living 
 in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high 
 there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
>>> ~~~
>>> Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes?
>>> It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and move.
>>> Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and you 
>>> usually get blamed for what your underlings do.
>>> Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab rat.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Understanding ISIS

2015-11-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Thanks, I like that article.  Understanding the enemy is huge.
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Re: [MBZ] Police pull over a car and get a surprise.

You're both way off topic.  Behave.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> They got that many more viewers?
>
> Yeah, with the other 37 people who watch it
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 11/16/15 2:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe you should watch MSNBC.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] High dollar totally undesirable car

A true Idiot.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
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Re: [MBZ] "The Car Was In An Accident"

Not outrageous for a pretty color.  Why do so many people have a love
affair with apostrophe's?

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Uh, yeah.  That’ll buff right out.
>
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5319126196.html
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Re: [MBZ] "Light front end damage" (It'll buff right out)

Cute, with a whole lot of personality.  Surprisingly quiet too.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Andrew ask what kind of buffer I suggested.. Below is a youtube of what I
> had in mind should put the car where it needs to be.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:39 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Offer them $500.  Not much to salvage on that thing
> >
> > clay
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E350-/272041873315?forcerrptr=true=item3f56f58fa3:g:AGEAAOSwlV9WSIvv=272041873315
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

2015-11-16 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

You have to think about summers here. Summers are hotter than a (wait, this
isn't Banned...)...it's stupid hot. The airport is easy to get in and out
of. Buckeye (west of Phoenix and west of Litchfield Park where I live) is
Okie-esque.
What the others have said about the greener grass should be considered.

Bob R

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You know that is exactly why I posted this here because I was sure others
> in this list have relocated for work before. The VP of our company got
> fired a while back and my boss was one that applied for it. Turns out the
> west coast regional got moved up. If my boss would have got it then I would
> have been going after his job. I will put it this way, last year a rep job
> with carfax was open which never happens. I interviewed for it but they
> ended up going with a friend of mine who was an internal candidate. I would
> have moved from my management job to a much less stressful rep job at
> carfax for much larger base but lower bonus portion. It thing that move
> would have netted about 10k more per year. So just from talking to my boss
> the base for a regional manager job with our company would come in a little
> less than the rep job at carfax. Not sure what the bonus is but that is
> where I'm getting the idea it's not worth it to relocate.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The grass is always greener, but in reality, it rarely is.  Stay put,
> enjoy your stuff and family, and when the next notch up the ladder presents
> itself in your neighborhood, go for it.
> >
> > I can assure you that in relocations like this, no matter how good they
> sound, how much of the costs the company covers, or how much more money you
> make, you ALWAYS lose.  Sometimes more than others, but you always come out
> a little less when the dust settles.
> >
> > Take it from someone who has done it more than once.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am currently a manager. This job would be managing our market
> manager. Right now I manage my employees and run my market. This job would
> be managing the entire region. I agree not sure I would be happy getting
> rid of all my crap. It would be a big change and don't think this risk and
> hassle would outweigh the reward. Now if the spot opened up in our region
> it would be a no brainier as I would not have to relocate.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >>>
>  What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about
> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at
> work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to
> live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be
> what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if
> it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I think living in
> the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I
> would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
> >>> ~~~
> >>> Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes?
> >>> It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and
> move.
> >>> Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and
> you usually get blamed for what your underlings do.
> >>> Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab
> rat.
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Re: [MBZ] Dune

Lynch did an odd interpretations.  SyFy channel made a good attempt at making 
it understandable.

Jodorosky's Dune would have been eye popping and set your brain on fire.


clay


On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

> You're a generation late for that movie (which stunk).  Books are better, but 
> marginal.  They were great when I was 14.
> 
> The movie was incomprehensible, don't feel bad if it just looks like a bad 
> dream.  It pretty much was.
> 
> 
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Dune

“Twin Pines”?

Do you mean “Twin Peaks”?

Confused Dan


> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:57 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> You would need to read the book to understand the movie.  If you understood 
> Twin Pines tv show, then this is not far off the weird scale.
> 
> clay
> 


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Re: [MBZ] W116 Euro Headlights

Dang, Now I need a W116

clay

On Nov 14, 2015, at 4:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> Looks like  good deal:
> 
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2504609-fs-usa-los-angeles-w116-european.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

2015-11-16 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about throwing 
> my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job at work but 
> would have to relocate to the region which would mean having to live in 
> Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue would be what to do 
> with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money would be if it's worth the 
> additional cost of living in those places. I think living in the west coast 
> would be out as the cost of living is way too high there. I would be thinking 
> Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado. 
~~~
Would you be happy without your shop and wheeling-dealing in Mercedes?
It would take one heck of an increase in salary for me to sell out and move.
Have you had a job as a manager before? It's a lot of headaches and you usually 
get blamed for what your underlings do.
Gerry...been there,done that, didn't like it, went back to being a lab rat.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

I find it strange the governors that are calling to end allowing of Syrian 
refugee into the US just because one of the terrorists MIGHT have been Syrian. 
Apparently they didn't notice that crazies come from all over and you can't 
prevent crazies from doing crazy things...
-Curt

  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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Cc: Greg Fiorentino  
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
   
I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it will
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rich Thomas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class" 
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy was
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."  
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and
bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other
sources saying different?
> -Curt
>
>        From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Max Dillon 
>  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>    
> Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press
reporting vs. "ground truth"?


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[MBZ] High dollar totally undesirable car



1987 Mercedes Benz 190e
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5317483239.html

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[MBZ] "The Car Was In An Accident"

Uh, yeah.  That’ll buff right out.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5319126196.html

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

I have been to California a few times, Denver 1 time, but other than that have 
not visited the west much other than Craig in NM. I would like to see Reno and 
Vegas sometime. Yosemite as well.

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Oooh!  I forgot about Reno, my very favorite Western city, and my jumping off 
> spot for visits to Yosemite.
> 
> Virginia City is really cool, too, but it’s not someplace you would want to 
> live, I think.  Maybe Bridgeport CA.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:07 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Major or Minor airport?  The commuter airports in smaller markets hook into 
>> the big boys.  Euguene, Medford, or Redmond Oregon; Bellingham, Wenatchee, 
>> Walla Walla, Spokane, Tri-Cities, WA,;  Boise, Idaho Falls or Lewiston far 
>> from major cities.   There is always Reno.  More temperate than LV.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yea it is a lot of travel, would be visiting our market managers in places 
>>> like Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Boise. I would 
>>> think I would want to be within an hour of an airport. We don't have any 
>>> business in NM.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 Grand Junction?  Are you nuts?  He doesn’t want a nine month ski vacation. 
  Tell him what the temperatures were two-three months ago in your 
 neighborhood.

 Portland is nice, but lots of clouds and the granola folks.  Eastern 
 Oregon is pretty sparse but nice, as is eastern Washington state.

 Understand that you’re talking about some pretty serious travel if you’re 
 covering an area like that.

 As for cost of living, if you’re remotely close to a metropolitan area in 
 Washington, Oregon, Colorado, or California, your cost of living is going 
 to be significantly higher.  I’ll bet the job compensation doesn’t reflect 
 that?

 Eastern or southern Colorado would be nice and probably just as affordable 
 as where you are now.  However, it’s pretty damned rural, but I’m not sure 
 how that compares to where you are now.  Mao and Craig have lived in those 
 parts, but I don’t think it’s recent for either one, so their information 
 might be a bit dated.

 How’s about Albuquerque, NM?  Good location, probably a decent cost of 
 living.

 If you’re going to be covering an area of that size you would just about 
 have to live near a major airport I would expect.

 Dan

>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the temp in Phoenix today? Just curious. I am thinking about 
>> throwing my name in the hat for an open west coast regional manager job 
>> at work but would have to relocate to the region which would mean having 
>> to live in Colorado, Phoenix, California, Seattle etc. My main issue 
>> would be what to do with all my crap, and I am not sure what the money 
>> would be if it's worth the additional cost of living in those places. I 
>> think living in the west coast would be out as the cost of living is way 
>> too high there. I would be thinking Phoenix or somewhere i Colorado.
>> 
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> High today 57.  Locals have on the goose down jacket.
> 
> My cousin lives in Montrose CO and loves it there.  The couple times I've 
> been through Grand Junction, CO, it seems nice.   CO is invested by the 
> fruits and nuts from CA, as is Seattle.  Seattle used to be nice before 
> the invasions of fruits and nuts and their nutso ways.
> 
> Passing through, i liked Billings, MT   NO problem there with packin. WY 
> has been invaded by fruits and nuts too, especially around the hole.
> 
> From a couple hours, I liked Gallup NM.  If you like the feel of a 
> western town, Gallup is IT!
> 
> Nuthin grows in Phoenix, but then out where you are now, not much grows, 
> so mebbe you'll like the traffic and smog where nuttin grows.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Understanding ISIS

Max wrote:
> Thanks, I like that article.  Understanding the enemy is huge.

The scary part was the enjoyment the author had in London with those
guys.  As I read that, I almost found myself thinking the same thing.
Here, we know Late Great Planet Earth and apocalypse and 2nd coming -
all stuff of Hollywood in our mega-churches.  Support Israel, etc - it
is scarily similar to the sense of caliphate expressed in the article.
Except here, we don't speak about things spoken at the caliphate such
as beheadings and crucifixion.  I dunno, mebbe I be radical.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] "Light front end damage" (It'll buff right out)

2015-11-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Andrew ask what kind of buffer I suggested.. Below is a youtube of what I
had in mind should put the car where it needs to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:39 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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> Offer them $500.  Not much to salvage on that thing
>
> clay
>
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix

Kleb wrote:
> I agree not sure I would be happy getting rid of all my crap. It would be a 
> big change and don't think this risk and hassle would outweigh the reward. 
> Now if the spot opened up in our region it would be a no brainier as I would 
> not have to relocate.
>

Getting rid of stuff is nice.
But... I don't know that... yet.
The other headaches of managing... yeah, I agree with Gerry - probably
nicer to remain a lab rat, but I ended work as lab rat.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

Curly wrote:
> It is no wonder the crazies hate the USA if you watch that marxist ... 
> drivel...

I think if we took a look at ourselves there might be a whole bunch of
reasons to hate.
We may have sowed all of our fears.  It might be real informative to
hear foreign point of view regarding many things - we might learn
something.
I just hate the rush to judgement.  Sure, ISIS did it, but who are
they?  I dunno, war these days sounds so caliphate, so apocalyptic,
and it might get there.
Keep your powder dry.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

That's what I'd like to know.  During 9/11, Italian news (and 
probably others) were way ahead of American news, with more detail. 
SWMBO called relatives there and started relaying details to me, at 
work, while I was watching CNN.   I was getting angry about how much 
more info was available to that audience.  Maybe European news 
agencies simply had more experience reporting on terror, and were 
wide awake?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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'95 E300


All the tv networks are just mouthpieces for the ministry of 
propaganda.  Fox, maybe less so, but just about every news broadcast 
I hear a "liberal" bias.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

You never watched the early iteration of CNN International, which I 
used to see in overseas hotels on a regular basis.  They would 
rotate the stories every 30 minutes, so that if you watched more 
than an hour you saw the same stuff, over and over again, with minor 
embellishments.


I once watched it for a whole day when I was stuck in a Sofitel at 
DeGaulle.  Only English speaking channel they had. I was so bored I 
wanted to rip my eyes out.


I did enjoy seeing Tom and Jerry in French, though.

Dan


Ug!   CrapNN A  month in Uganda, no other "merkuns and the only 
thing that was not in indian was the Crap "news" "network"  It is no 
wonder the crazies hate the USA if you watch that marxist propaganda 
drivel over and over, same drivel every half hour!  At least until 
dark (about 7-7:30) I could sit outside and drink a coke or whatever. 
After dark, the gunshots were unnerving.


On the good side, We did get to watch popeye in italian at Metaponto 
(Italy) for a week when everything was locked up for siesta, or 
whatever it is called in Italian.  Popeye was a blast.  the lines 
were in italian, but the songs were in English


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris