[MBZ] The River

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Anyone who has seen the peacefulness, the beauty, the power and the 
anger of The River can understand why it is capitalized.


This animation shows the reach of The River

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/09/mississippi-river-watershed-map/

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Re: [MBZ] Storm reminder

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I still git nuffin.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 10:41 PM
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/southcarolina/kiawahisland/?cam=kiawahisland


Camera is back up.


Fred Moir.

Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


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[MBZ] Storm reminder

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/southcarolina/kiawahisland/?cam=kiawahisland


Camera is back up.


Fred Moir.

Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I know a lady chemist who usta be a Dupont.   Here son is a Dupont and 
works fer the DoS. She worked fer the company.  I've never asked if the 
ex was wunna them, but I think it is a pretty safe guess.  She has a 
nice estate by the River, but probably not as sizable as your neighbor.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 9:38 PM
There is a guy here on this Island who is married to a DuPont, they 
have quite an estate, almost rivaling my vast estate.  He is a bit, 
um, challenging to deal with though we get on reasonably well.  
Reasonably well, given my tolerance for pomposity, arrogance, and 
hubristic behavior.  His opinion of himself is somewhat elevated 
beyond that of anyone else who knows him.  More than somewhat.


--FT




Fred Moir via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 7:26 PM
"Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff 
because HFC

might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?"

Mitch.


Maybe:-
Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff 
because HFC

might make an immeasurable contribution to DuPont's bottom line?


Surely not!



Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


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Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 6:13 PM
HFC was forced on us because CFC damaged the ozone layer. That I can 
understand.



Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff 
because HFC

might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?

Mitch.

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Curley McLain 
October 15, 2016 at 4:19 PM
We will have to go back to ammonia refrigeration.   Probly hafta make 
our own ammonia too


NPR is indeed droning on that HFCs will be banned  Sorry folks, it 
is more impt that the self righteous greenie-weenies feel good about 
themselves than the rest of us having safe food, air conditioning and 
other things. It is reported (based on falsified "data") banning HFC 
will lower the seas by 1/2 of one degree.ooops that is temps... 
Well, it really does not matter as it is all made up to jerk sheeple 
around (to make them "controllable.")


Hmmm people used to use ice to lower temps   [greenie-weenie not to 
self: hafta ban that too!]


We will indeed be using the magic fufu in the future.  FUture FUFU.  FU.

our own SoS, the Botoxicated French-speaking Liveshot Jean F'n Kerré, 
who has gravities and who, by the way, served (himself) in Vietnam has 
indeed sold us down the river AGAIN!


More hopeless change.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 3:01 PM

The Chevy Spark uses
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/FRE1/1234YF/N1782.oap

only $999.99 for a ten pound can at my local O'Reilly's.

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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report NOW JEAN F'N

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

He is truly a rather odious individual.
And always has been.  The stench reaches even here, 1000 miles away, and 
probably covers all 57 states!  I smelled it soon after his PR journey 
to veetnam.  What was that? 69  or so?


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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report NOW JEAN F'N

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Jean F'n is an interesting case.  Liveshot as he is known, "Do you know 
who I am?" He also apparently likes to hang with young ladies and act 
like a Kennedy with them.  Well known behavior.  He is kept by Tuhrayza.


My wife's dad had the foresight about 50+ years ago to buy a plot of 
land on Nantucket Island and build a small cottage on the property, on 
the far end of the island from town so it was kind of the hinterlands 
back then.  Relatively cheap money back then as it really wasn't much of 
a swell place.  Both are still quite lovely, though now they are 
approaching beachfront location due to the march of nature.  Wife, 
mother and siblings spent summers there while dad worked, to get there 
occasionally.  So my wife grew up a good part of her teenage years on 
the island and knew it very well, having the usual sort of minimal 
resort-type summer jobs that paid quite well.  She taught Fred Rogers's 
son to sail, he had a place not too far away.  Fred was pretty much as 
he was on his show.  I walked by his house once, heard the phone ring, 
and he answered it, and I was like, that's Mr. Rogers!  There were lots 
of other interesting characters there too.


A friend she worked with after college had a similar experience as her 
grandmother owned 2 houses there, old inherited places or something, one 
in town and one on the harbor just on the edge of town.  They devolved 
down to the grandkids and she was the only one who wanted to fool with 
them.  I think they sold the one in town to give the others their 
inheritance, kept the hahbah house. The one on the harbor is 2 doors 
down from Tuhrayza's (the late John Heinz's) place.  Some years back 
when we were visiting the island we would visit this friend who spent 
the summers at the house with the kids, hang out on the porch and drink 
and whatnot. There were always SS guys or some kind of feds around the 
house, this when J F'n was a senatuh, maybe before Teddy got the final 
round.  Big flag on a pole out front.  The kids liked to run up and down 
the little bit of beach in front of the houses and of course they got 
hassled by the hausengrupenkomandos.  Nice, terroristic chirruns.


The yacht, which had been "berthed" in Rhode Island to avoid the 
usurious MA taxes (good job Jean!) was anchored out in front of the 
house, which, if anyone paid attention, would mean that MA taxes were 
due on it.  But being the liberal senatuh meant that taxes were only for 
everyone else, not the swells.  Apparently since he has become SoS the 
security is even more annoying, the friend was thinking to unload the 
place, which is probably at this point worth multiple $millions, because 
it was becoming increasingly difficult to rent it out, even at the 
bargain rate of $25k/wk, maybe more now, due to the wake turbulence of J 
F'n and Tuhrayza being in proximity.  I was there 4 or 5 years ago and 
rode my bike over there, it was the same way.  The street behind the 
house, Hurlburt Ave, is sorta like an overgrown alley, but the cops were 
still there making sure no one infringed on J F'n's territory even if he 
or Tuhrayza weren't there.  Thanks, taxpayers!  They gave me the 
stinkeye when I rode past, probably snapped my picture or something.


On another possibly interesting note, my doctor here is the grandson of 
people who owned a house just down from there a little ways.  If you 
have ever read the book or seen the movie Cheaper by the Dozen, that was 
about his grandparents and his father was one of The Dozen.  The house 
is pretty much the same as it was, with the bunkhouse out back and a 
little lighthouse kind of effect on the main part of the house.  He goes 
there quite often, the house is still in the family.  We have had some 
interesting discussions about various goings-on there and of course he 
knows the whole deal about J F'n and has a somewhat less than flattering 
opinion of him too.  His cousin, whom he says is pretty whacked, lives 
near where my wife's family place is, and stays year-round which 
explains the whackness.


J F'n on a pink girls bike in the parking lot at Jetties Beach, just 
down the way from Tuhrayza's house in which he is occasionally kept.  He 
is truly a rather odious individual.


--FT


On 10/15/16 7:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
no word yet one when the 134 disappears.  Our own SoS, the 
botoxicated, intoxicated, French-speaking Liveshot Jean F'n Kerré, who 
has grabass and who, by the way, served his self interest in Vietnam 
does not have enough fingers and toes to count to that day.   By the 
way didja know he's a kept man?


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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Iirc a little under 400 at Autohausaz.

On Oct 15, 2016 10:07 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The tach amps are expensive these days?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 15, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > New Tach amps are hideously expensive and the problem could be a defect
> in
> > the gauge.
> >
> > On Oct 15, 2016 9:07 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If cleaning the contacts doesn't work, a new tach amplifier almost
> >> certainly will.
> >> --
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '87 300TD
> >> '95 E300
> >>
> >> On October 15, 2016 1:11:04 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> >>> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the
> >>> contacts).
> >>> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or
> >>> slightly
> >>> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
> >>> Deoxit
> >>> which I don't currently own.
> >>>
> >>> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> >>> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto
> >>> the
> >>> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
> >>>
> >>> TIA,
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> >>> 1983 300TD white/blue
> >>>
> >>> *accepting offers
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There is a guy here on this Island who is married to a DuPont, they have 
quite an estate, almost rivaling my vast estate.  He is a bit, um, 
challenging to deal with though we get on reasonably well.  Reasonably 
well, given my tolerance for pomposity, arrogance, and hubristic 
behavior.  His opinion of himself is somewhat elevated beyond that of 
anyone else who knows him.  More than somewhat.


--FT


On 10/15/16 9:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

E I Dupont de Neumours   The original "merkun Daddy Warbucks!

Since 1760 or before

Got rich makin gunpowder for the continental  congress.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 7:26 PM
"Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff 
because HFC

might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?"

Mitch.


Maybe:-
Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff 
because HFC

might make an immeasurable contribution to DuPont's bottom line?


Surely not!



Fred Moir.



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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Aircraft engineering, the highest performance with the most efficient 
use of materials.


--FT


On 10/15/16 7:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I agree in principle with Floyd.  I would not have used the badass 
term, but its not in my vocabulary.  I'd say all-American men with the 
grit to do the dirty work that has to be done regardless of the 
hazards.   19 words that pretty much mean how badass is used now.   
Floyd is much more efficient.


--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Aircraft engineering, the highest performance with the most efficient 
use of materials.


--FT


On 10/15/16 7:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I agree in principle with Floyd.  I would not have used the badass 
term, but its not in my vocabulary.  I'd say all-American men with the 
grit to do the dirty work that has to be done regardless of the 
hazards.   19 words that pretty much mean how badass is used now.   
Floyd is much more efficient.


--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Abrasive cutting wheel cut right through no problem. Was very careful with 
the depth and only have several small cuts into the steering lock housing 
that will be hidden under the new protector sleeve. Tomorrow I will be 
putting most everything back together, as I have order new sleeve and 
tumbler set and they mount from the front and slide in place. I tried to use 
the tumbler from my 190 until the new ones come in, but after install, it 
would not turn to the off position to release the key.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles

-Original Message- 
From: Curley McLain via Mercedes

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Waytago!   Too bad you didn't get it out before you had to hose the ign
lockset.

I found out you can't drill out the lock or the protective sleeve.  I
took the front plate from a 123 to th a guy who was selling carbide
drill bits that were 'indestructible" and would "drill through
anything." It dulled his drill.  The drill barely made a dent.  He
asked what it was.  I said Kryptonite!

I had gotten the front plate out by grinding off the protective sleeve
and then the lock.


Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 8:23 PM

From: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 3:18 PM
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Just to let you know I finally got the tumbler out, but accomplished it by 
cutting the protective sleeve. I have gotten the tumbler to rotate outside 
of the housing once our twice and found one broken piece of pot metal, but 
would like to take it further apart to see what is really mucking the 
operation. I will order a new key and tumbler set and sleeve, as the 190 
steering lock that I have, doesn’t have the transmission lock feature.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles


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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The tach amps are expensive these days?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> New Tach amps are hideously expensive and the problem could be a defect in
> the gauge.
> 
> On Oct 15, 2016 9:07 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> If cleaning the contacts doesn't work, a new tach amplifier almost
>> certainly will.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On October 15, 2016 1:11:04 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
>>> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the
>>> contacts).
>>> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or
>>> slightly
>>> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
>>> Deoxit
>>> which I don't currently own.
>>> 
>>> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
>>> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto
>>> the
>>> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>>> 
>>> TIA,
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
>>> 1983 300TD white/blue
>>> 
>>> *accepting offers
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

New Tach amps are hideously expensive and the problem could be a defect in
the gauge.

On Oct 15, 2016 9:07 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> If cleaning the contacts doesn't work, a new tach amplifier almost
> certainly will.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On October 15, 2016 1:11:04 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> >(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the
> >contacts).
> >I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or
> >slightly
> >corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
> >Deoxit
> >which I don't currently own.
> >
> >Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> >application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto
> >the
> >male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
> >
> >http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Andrew
> >1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> >1983 300TD white/blue
> >
> >*accepting offers
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago!   Too bad you didn't get it out before you had to hose the ign 
lockset.


I found out you can't drill out the lock or the protective sleeve.  I 
took the front plate from a 123 to th a guy who was selling carbide 
drill bits that were 'indestructible" and would "drill through 
anything." It dulled his drill.  The drill barely made a dent.  He 
asked what it was.  I said Kryptonite!


I had gotten the front plate out by grinding off the protective sleeve 
and then the lock.



Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 8:23 PM

From: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 3:18 PM
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Just to let you know I finally got the tumbler out, but accomplished 
it by cutting the protective sleeve. I have gotten the tumbler to 
rotate outside of the housing once our twice and found one broken 
piece of pot metal, but would like to take it further apart to see 
what is really mucking the operation. I will order a new key and 
tumbler set and sleeve, as the 190 steering lock that I have, doesn’t 
have the transmission lock feature.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles


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Re: [MBZ] Lantern Love

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was 14 at the time so willing to wipe the slate clean.

On Oct 15, 2016 6:21 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Only a PITA if you don't know what you're doing. I've got a series of "how
> to light" videos on YouTube. I think there are 4 now for the different
> types of lanterns...
>
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
>  wrote:
> I remember the green Colemans of bygone years.  Always a PIA to operate
> but such joy when lit...
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe. I lit a 2 mantle one of yours once...
>> Curt
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>>   On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Dwight Giles
>> wrote:
>> Curt- isn't  that the one I have?
>>  D
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> 1982 300CD
>> 1990 300D
>> Wickford RI
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2016 6:07 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Shouldn't even go for that much they made bazillions of them...
>> The Kaleb offer of the lantern world is $8
>>
>> Curt
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>>   On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:   Curt - what do you think it will go for?
>>
>> Dan
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>> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 5:32 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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>> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/ Vintage-Coleman-Lantern-
>> 200A195-Red-1960s-Single- Mantle-IOB-/401203517962?hash= item5d6997da0a
>> >
>> > this is a nice example.  Might be a good pairing with the coleman heater
>> >
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>> > clay
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>> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> > 1986 SDL - Polei
>> >
>> > retired models-
>> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Sears / Kenmore dryer repair

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Today I did the deed, dryer is fixed!  Left the dryer in top of the washer for 
the repair.  Rick's description was the best, big ball mounted on the rear of 
the drum, rides in a plastic cup mounted on the rear wall of the dryer.  I 
bought the kit from appliance parts pro's, $24 delivered.  I also replaced the 
water lines to the washer while I had the stack pulled away from the wall.

Top of the dryer has spring clips at the front edge, hinge at the rear, YouTube 
videos show the way.

Looks like this particular Kenmore was made by Frigidaire.  Really a pretty 
easy job, but took about half a day because I spent a lot of time cleaning up 
17 years of accumulated lint and dust.

I did not (yet) replace the nylon strips that the front of the drum rides on, 
that'll be next.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

E I Dupont de Neumours   The original "merkun Daddy Warbucks!

Since 1760 or before

Got rich makin gunpowder for the continental  congress.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 7:26 PM
"Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff 
because HFC

might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?"

Mitch.


Maybe:-
Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff 
because HFC

might make an immeasurable contribution to DuPont's bottom line?


Surely not!



Fred Moir.



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[MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

From: rmassm...@embarqmail.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 3:18 PM
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Just to let you know I finally got the tumbler out, but accomplished it by 
cutting the protective sleeve. I have gotten the tumbler to rotate outside of 
the housing once our twice and found one broken piece of pot metal, but would 
like to take it further apart to see what is really mucking the operation. I 
will order a new key and tumbler set and sleeve, as the 190 steering lock that 
I have, doesn’t have the transmission lock feature.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles 

From: Curt Raymond 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 9:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

That's how it goes, many of us have been there... 


Curt


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


  On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
   wrote:
  Initially the key stopped somewhere between Accessory and run, and it 
  wouldn't either direction until I added more pressure to turn it.  Didn't 
  have any problems before this , no prior incidents at all?

  BM

  -Original Message- 
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
  Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:01 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

  Should have pullled it while you could still turn it. Try giggling it while 
  turning to see if you can get it to move one last time to pull it out then 
  use a screw driver to start it until the new one comes in

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Oct 13, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  > Well I have a problem with my ignition switch when I got home tonight.  I 
  > had trouble turning the switch to the off position, I had to apply unusual 
  > pressure to get it to the off position. Yes the transmission lever was in 
  > the park position. I put the key back in and tried to turn it to the 
  > accessory position, but it wouldn’t turn at all. I tried my spare key with 
  > the same result, could not turn it out of the off position. Will need to 
  > see if I can the whole assembly out. Is there a way to get the tumbler set 
  > out besides turning it to release position to insert the release pin.
  >
  > Not sure what I need to do next? I guess it is possible to wear the switch 
  > to a none work condition.
  >
  > Bob Massmann
  > 1995 E300D 448,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] Wow. Does it ever end with this creep!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I thought that would be the result, in the short term.  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 15, 2016 3:38:06 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Oh look, same thing happening here: 
>http://www.postandcourier.com/20161013/161019753/elliott-summey-remains-county-council-chairman-despite-call-from-national-action-network
>
>And what is that about you ask? 
>http://www.postandcourier.com/20161004/161009735/recordings-show-summey-playing-both-sides-on-i-526
>
>Another county council member was waving around a thick notebook full
>of 
>depositions and subpoenaed information he had just received.  A copy 
>shall be delivered to me soon, containing loads of interesting
>information.
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 10/15/16 3:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> In a word ... "Trouble" ... it sticks and follows everywhere they go.
>>
>> John "teflon" Gotti the mob boss truly believed he was "untouchable"
>...
>> but he died in jail... There is a certain apex in criminals lifetimes
>where
>> the facts catch up with the lies and overwhelm the criminal
>>
>> That perfect storm has formed... it's just looking for the place to
>make
>> first contact.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Grant wrote:
 I see the script being written for the next reality show on TV.

 Working title is " 50 Shades of Evil"

 You just couldn't make this stuff up fast enough, yet every day
>more is
 revealed.
>>> Nothing sticks to anything named Clinton, nothing!!
>>> ...or... Name something that has stuck to anything named Clinton?
>>> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

If cleaning the contacts doesn't work, a new tach amplifier almost certainly 
will.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 15, 2016 1:11:04 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
>(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the
>contacts).
>I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or 
>slightly
>corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
>Deoxit
>which I don't currently own.
>
>Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
>application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto
>the
>male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>
>http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>
>TIA,
>
>Andrew
>1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
>1983 300TD white/blue
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Oops, meant undetectable, not immeasurable. 
Mitch. 

> On October 15, 2016 at 8:26 PM Fred Moir via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> "Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff because HFC
> might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?"
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> 
> Maybe:-
> Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff because HFC
> might make an immeasurable contribution to DuPont's bottom line?
> 
> 
> Surely not!
> 
> 
> 
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

"Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff because HFC
might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?"

Mitch.


Maybe:-
Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff because HFC
might make an immeasurable contribution to DuPont's bottom line?


Surely not!



Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


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Re: [MBZ] Fer sayle.

[MG via Mercedes]

Yep going to do a Google for it and see what comes up.

Manfred


Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:03:22 -0400
From: Max Dillon 

Manfred, I'm sure it's been done, pix and YouTube to show the way.


-- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[MG via Mercedes]

I was also thinking that Andrew might want to take the female 
plug apart and tighten the little receivers a bit to promote 
better contact. I did that with mine and it has worked fine even 
without Deoxit.


Manfred



Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:04:48 -0500
From: OK Don 

Also, yes, spray both the male and female sections, then plug, in-plug them
several times.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
which I don't currently own.




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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no word yet one when the 134 disappears.  Our own SoS, the botoxicated, 
intoxicated, French-speaking Liveshot Jean F'n Kerré, who has grabass 
and who, by the way, served his self interest in Vietnam does not have 
enough fingers and toes to count to that day.   By the way didja know 
he's a kept man?



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 6:15 PM
Glad I have stockpiled about 600lbs of r134.

Sent from my iPhone




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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I agree in principle with Floyd.  I would not have used the badass term, 
but its not in my vocabulary.  I'd say all-American men with the grit to 
do the dirty work that has to be done regardless of the hazards.   19 
words that pretty much mean how badass is used now.   Floyd is much more 
efficient.



WILTON via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 6:15 PM
I've never thought of myself as any sort of "badass," but I'll take it 
as a

compliment.

Those WW II bomber crews have always been my heroes.  I've never 
thought I

could be as tough and brave as they were to endure the cold, noisy,
un-pressurized cabins and wearing oxygen masks for hours on every 
mission and
keep going back day-after-day for months against relentless fighter 
attacks.

By contrast, 72 of my bombing missions to Vietnam were very routine and
flown in relative comfort of "shirt-sleeve" conditions of pressurized,
heated cabin against un-defended targets and very little chance of any
opposition.  It was only on the last 6 of my missions over a period of 11
days that mine got "very interesting."  Just like those guys of WW II,
though, we mere merely doing our duty and what we were very well 
trained to

do with confidence and faith that we would survive.  'Always sad to
remember, though, that 30 of my B-52 comrades did not survive.

Still lots of flooding in South part of town along Neuse River and 
along a creek

through town.  Many people in shelters.  Some areas still without power.
Don't know the number, but the number of homes and businesses in the 
county (Wayne) is very significant.


Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 


To: 
Cc: "Floyd Thursby" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today




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Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 1:40 PM
That's awesome.  I think you are pretty much a badass for strapping on 
a Buff and flying into some nasty stuff, but these guys were even more 
badass, not having "modern" gadgets and radar and sensors and such, 
and flying beat-up patched-up planes on those missions every day.  
Seems like air war then was a lot less "stand-off" than it is today, 
again not to diminish in any way the guys who do that stuff now but it 
just seems like it so much more up close and visceral.  Just hearing 
some stories from my pilot neighbor was hair-raising (and I have no 
hair!  Well, I guess I had a bit then...).  I think I mentioned too, 
my uncle was on the USS Bush that got kamikazeed and sunk, he survived 
after floating around in the water for quite a while.  "It was just 
what we did" he says.  unh huh.  I think he just passed 90yo and is 
still going pretty strong so I guess he had some good mojo going on 
that day too.


BTW how are y'all doing up there with the flooding?  Saw some pics of 
Kinston and around there and it was really bad.  Real bad down here in 
SC in some places too, right now the rivers are flooding from all the 
runoff, that takes several days to work itself down to the ocean.  
Full moon high tides this weekend are not helping.  Seems like it is 
even worse than a year ago.


--R




WILTON via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 1:24 PM
'Reminds me:  I was in 8th Air Force at Robins AF, GA, and here at 
Seymour Johnson AFB, NC.


Lt. Gen. Frank Armstrong, from my hometown, Nashville, NC (born 15 or 
20 mi. away, but claimed Nashville, where his sister lived), helped 
establish 8th Air Force in England in 1942.


The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High," is based on his actions.  His part, 
Frank Savage in the movie, is played by Gregory Peck.


I met 'im sitting on his sister's front porch one afternoon in 'bout 
1948.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today




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Max Dillon via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 11:04 AM
Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth 
off of I-95 down in Florida. I've often been tempted to stop there, 
that temptation is now greater.

Curley McLain 
October 14, 2016 at 4:49 AM
Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14 became 
know as Black 

Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

CFC was regulated out of existence because Dupont's patent expired.  
Rather than having to compete with generic manufacturers, and get 
better, they paid the goobers to regulate it out of existence.  Guess 
who had the patent on 134?


Given the fairly recent slew of new brands of 134, I would guess that 
patent has now expired also.


SOO..   Time to regulate HFCs out of existence.  Now "we" 
can sell stuff fer $100 a pound!


Better fer shareholders, and the CeoCfo salaries, bonus and perks.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 6:13 PM
HFC was forced on us because CFC damaged the ozone layer. That I can 
understand.



Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff 
because HFC

might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Glad I have stockpiled about 600lbs of r134.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> HFC was forced on us because CFC damaged the ozone layer. That I can 
> understand.
> 
> 
> Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff because HFC
> might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I've never thought of myself as any sort of "badass," but I'll take it as a
compliment.

Those WW II bomber crews have always been my heroes.  I've never thought I
could be as tough and brave as they were to endure the cold, noisy,
un-pressurized cabins and wearing oxygen masks for hours on every mission 
and

keep going back day-after-day for months against relentless fighter attacks.
By contrast, 72 of my bombing missions to Vietnam were very routine and
flown in relative comfort of "shirt-sleeve" conditions of pressurized,
heated cabin against un-defended targets and very little chance of any
opposition.  It was only on the last 6 of my missions over a period of 11
days that mine got "very interesting."  Just like those guys of WW II,
though, we mere merely doing our duty and what we were very well trained to
do with confidence and faith that we would survive.  'Always sad to
remember, though, that 30 of my B-52 comrades did not survive.

Still lots of flooding in South part of town along Neuse River and along a 
creek

through town.  Many people in shelters.  Some areas still without power.
Don't know the number, but the number of homes and businesses in the county 
(Wayne) is very significant.


Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 

To: 
Cc: "Floyd Thursby" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today



That's awesome.  I think you are pretty much a badass for strapping on a
Buff and flying into some nasty stuff, but these guys were even more
badass, not having "modern" gadgets and radar and sensors and such, and
flying beat-up patched-up planes on those missions every day.  Seems like
air war then was a lot less "stand-off" than it is today, again not to
diminish in any way the guys who do that stuff now but it just seems like
it so much more up close and visceral.  Just hearing some stories from my
pilot neighbor was hair-raising (and I have no hair!  Well, I guess I had
a bit then...).  I think I mentioned too, my uncle was on the USS Bush
that got kamikazeed and sunk, he survived after floating around in the
water for quite a while.  "It was just what we did" he says.  unh huh.  I
think he just passed 90yo and is still going pretty strong so I guess he
had some good mojo going on that day too.

BTW how are y'all doing up there with the flooding?  Saw some pics of
Kinston and around there and it was really bad.  Real bad down here in SC
in some places too, right now the rivers are flooding from all the runoff,
that takes several days to work itself down to the ocean.  Full moon high
tides this weekend are not helping.  Seems like it is even worse than a
year ago.

--R


On 10/15/16 2:24 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

'Reminds me:  I was in 8th Air Force at Robins AF, GA, and here at
Seymour Johnson AFB, NC.

Lt. Gen. Frank Armstrong, from my hometown, Nashville, NC (born 15 or 20
mi. away, but claimed Nashville, where his sister lived), helped
establish 8th Air Force in England in 1942.

The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High," is based on his actions.  His part,
Frank Savage in the movie, is played by Gregory Peck.

I met 'im sitting on his sister's front porch one afternoon in 'bout
1948.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes"

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today



Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth off
of I-95 down in Florida.  I've often been tempted to stop there, that
temptation is now greater.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 14, 2016 5:49:25 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14 became
know as Black Thursday.

http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-eighth-air-force-raid-on-schweinfurt.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt

60 of 291 planes were lost, and another 17 were so badly damaged that
they were scrapped ofter the mission.   22% of the men on the raid were

lost.

Remember today, the men of the USAAF who flow those missions and
especially those who were lost.



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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

HFC was forced on us because CFC damaged the ozone layer. That I can understand.


Now we're supposed to replace HFC with hideously expensive stuff because HFC
might make an immeasurable contribution to global temperatures?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] FW: Deoxit question

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

 

 

From: Greg Fiorentino [mailto:greg.fiorent...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 3:26 PM
To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'
Subject: RE: [MBZ] Deoxit question

 

The Gold is a different product, not designed to aggressively remove oxidation. 
I have some which was sent to me in error (so it was free!) and IIRC is to 
protect contacts after cleaning.

 

Greg

 

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 2:31 PM
To: Greg Fiorentino
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

 

Since I don't need much what about a tube of DeOxit gold?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DeoxIT-GOLD-G100L-Squeeze-Tube-100-solution-2-mL-NEW-/142123879470?hash=item21173e4c2e:g:3M4AAOSwzaJX4Weq

 

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Greg Fiorentino  
wrote:

Andrew:

 

Mine is different, the cap is replaced by one with a long, slender metal tube 
that has a tiny cap on top: 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-D100L-25C-DeoxIT-Needle-Dispenser-25-ml-/321527461953?hash=item4adc87b841:g:qhMAAOSwRLZUGxg2

 

 The one pictured in your ad will work just as well. However, I would not use 
the attached brush directly on dirty contacts, as it will introduce 
contaminants into the bottle. The compound appears to be the same as what I 
use. I see an ad above this listing for $15.25 as opposed to the $21.09 in this 
ad. That seems reasonable enough.

 

Greg

 

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Greg Fiorentino
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

 

Greg is this the stuff?   If so, is that a good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-D100L-2DB-DeoxIT-Brush-Bottle-7-4-ml-/221552642283?hash=item33959108eb:g:u8EAAOSw-jhUGxg9

 

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
wrote:

Thanks, Greg.  The dropper bottle might be the way to go for my tach rather 
than the spray can,

 

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to use
the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female contact
can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times with a
bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question

The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
which I don't currently own.

Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40 
 
&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1

TIA,

Andrew
1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
1983 300TD white/blue

*accepting offers
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Unfortunately, no.

They’ve always been pretty much unobtainium in the States, as MBUSA didn’t 
offer them for long as accessories.  I don’t think they were popular enough to 
warrant offering them, so they dropped them.  Tarek (SN) had a set of them that 
came with the S500 coupe, so when it went to the big knackers in the sky I 
removed them and put them on the sedan.  He picked them up in the UK or 
someplace in western Europe.

I had an offer of $300 for the set a while back.  Turned it down.

Dan



 
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 5:28 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like the mudflaps.  Do they come with little chrome naked biermadchens on
> 'em?
> 
> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Lantern Love

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Only a PITA if you don't know what you're doing. I've got a series of "how to 
light" videos on YouTube. I think there are 4 now for the different types of 
lanterns...

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:   I remember the green Colemans of bygone years.  Always a PIA to 
operate but such joy when lit...

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Maybe. I lit a 2 mantle one of yours once...
Curt

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  On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Curt- isn't  that the one I have?
 D

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 14, 2016 6:07 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"  
wrote:

Shouldn't even go for that much they made bazillions of them...
The Kaleb offer of the lantern world is $8

Curt

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  On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   Curt - what do you think it will go 
for?

Dan


> On Oct 14, 2016, at 5:32 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ Vintage-Coleman-Lantern- 200A195-Red-1960s-Single- 
> Mantle-IOB-/401203517962?hash= item5d6997da0a
>
> this is a nice example.  Might be a good pairing with the coleman heater
>
>
> clay
>
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
>
> retired models-
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Buy this and turn into an S500.  It'll be 80 better.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5828509415.html

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

My 92 300sd has the mud flaps 

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> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:28 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like the mudflaps.  Do they come with little chrome naked biermadchens on
> 'em?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I like the mudflaps.  Do they come with little chrome naked biermadchens on
'em?

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not a single SDL in the litter.


clay via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 3:25 PM
A few replacements for Dan from out west

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5782316843.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5813047678.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5821385295.html - 1991 300TD 
third row


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816394006.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816104910.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5801380373.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5808442515.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5771341388.html - Maybe a GD?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5789906364.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5799500236.html




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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

There was one around here somewhere in the same color for way way cheaper. I 
will have to see if I can find it.

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> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I have a guy lined up to swap a nice 1984 300SD for my S420 +cash, 
> but he’s in flippin’ Portland.  I don’t have the time to do a cross-country 
> car recovery, not to mention I don’t want to do 3,000+ miles in a car I’m not 
> familiar with.
> 
> If that 1990 350SDL rodbender is still for sale when I get back into town 
> next weekend I might go take a look.  I’m pretty sure it will be gone by then.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:25 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> A few replacements for Dan from out west
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5782316843.html
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5813047678.html
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5821385295.html - 1991 300TD third row 
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816394006.html
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816104910.html
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5801380373.html
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5808442515.html
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5771341388.html - Maybe a GD?
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5789906364.html
>> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5799500236.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

We will have to go back to ammonia refrigeration.   Probly hafta make 
our own ammonia too


NPR is indeed droning on that HFCs will be banned  Sorry folks, it 
is more impt that the self righteous greenie-weenies feel good about 
themselves than the rest of us having safe food, air conditioning and 
other things. It is reported (based on falsified "data") banning HFC 
will lower the seas by 1/2 of one degree.ooops that is temps... 
Well, it really does not matter as it is all made up to jerk sheeple 
around (to make them "controllable.")


Hmmm people used to use ice to lower temps   [greenie-weenie not to 
self: hafta ban that too!]


We will indeed be using the magic fufu in the future.  FUture FUFU.  FU.

our own SoS, the Botoxicated French-speaking Liveshot Jean F'n Kerré, 
who has gravities and who, by the way, served (himself) in Vietnam has 
indeed sold us down the river AGAIN!


More hopeless change.

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 3:10 PM

All of the Chrysler vehicles are using that as of 2017 as well as a 
lot of GM vehicles. I can say for sure having been in some 2017 GM 
vehicles with it this summer it does not cool near as well as r134, 
takes a long time to start cooling and does not get as cold.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 3:01 PM

The Chevy Spark uses
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/FRE1/1234YF/N1782.oap

only $999.99 for a ten pound can at my local O'Reilly's.
Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 10:19 AM
I just heard on some NPR report on the radio that there is a push now 
to ban HFCs, seems like our own SoS, the Botoxicated French-speaking 
Liveshot Jean F'n Kerré, who has gravitas and who, by the way, served 
in Vietnam, is behind it along with the UN and other countries that 
have not yet completely destroyed their economies.


So it might be that we will all need to be using the magic fufu in the 
future.  FUture FUFU.  FU.


--FT





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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

UR SALES PRISE IS A RIPEOFF THAN!

--CL


On 10/15/16 3:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Not sure about that. I don’t recall seeing the zundfogle casting mark on an 
M119.

Dan questioning the authenticity of his engine Man



On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

It has the rare zundfogle engine

--FT


On 10/15/16 3:39 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Will it go a million miles?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 15, 2016 3:27 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:


In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.
It may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done
after a good Martha’ing:

Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of
putting it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.
116k, everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just
intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers,
the unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0

Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m
jonesing for one really bad…

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Wow. Does it ever end with this creep!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 2:38 PM
Oh look, same thing happening here: 
http://www.postandcourier.com/20161013/161019753/elliott-summey-remains-county-council-chairman-despite-call-from-national-action-network 



And what is that about you ask? 
http://www.postandcourier.com/20161004/161009735/recordings-show-summey-playing-both-sides-on-i-526 



Another county council member was waving around a thick notebook full 
of depositions and subpoenaed information he had just received.  A 
copy shall be delivered to me soon, containing loads of interesting 
information.


--FT




G Mann via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 2:32 PM
In a word ... "Trouble" ... it sticks and follows everywhere they go.

John "teflon" Gotti the mob boss truly believed he was "untouchable" ...
but he died in jail... There is a certain apex in criminals lifetimes 
where

the facts catch up with the lies and overwhelm the criminal

That perfect storm has formed... it's just looking for the place to make
first contact.

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Mountain Man via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM

Nothing sticks to anything named Clinton, nothing!!
...or... Name something that has stuck to anything named Clinton?
mao

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G Mann via Mercedes 
October 14, 2016 at 10:44 AM
I see the script being written for the next reality show on TV.

Working title is " 50 Shades of Evil"

You just couldn't make this stuff up fast enough, yet every day more is
revealed.

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Curley McLain 
October 14, 2016 at 10:40 AM
CCF?  Podesta?  take yer pick!




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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yeah, there is no cost to goobermnt regulations!


(cost is defined as end, according to the goobers)  Make the 
substitution, and you will understand.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 3:01 PM

The Chevy Spark uses
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/FRE1/1234YF/N1782.oap

only $999.99 for a ten pound can at my local O'Reilly's.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 10:19 AM
I just heard on some NPR report on the radio that there is a push now 
to ban HFCs, seems like our own SoS, the Botoxicated French-speaking 
Liveshot Jean F'n Kerré, who has gravitas and who, by the way, served 
in Vietnam, is behind it along with the UN and other countries that 
have not yet completely destroyed their economies.


So it might be that we will all need to be using the magic fufu in the 
future.  FUture FUFU.  FU.


--FT



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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Andrew:

 

Mine is different, the cap is replaced by one with a long, slender metal tube 
that has a tiny cap on top: 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-D100L-25C-DeoxIT-Needle-Dispenser-25-ml-/321527461953?hash=item4adc87b841:g:qhMAAOSwRLZUGxg2

 

 The one pictured in your ad will work just as well. However, I would not use 
the attached brush directly on dirty contacts, as it will introduce 
contaminants into the bottle. The compound appears to be the same as what I 
use. I see an ad above this listing for $15.25 as opposed to the $21.09 in this 
ad. That seems reasonable enough.

 

Greg

 

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Greg Fiorentino
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

 

Greg is this the stuff?   If so, is that a good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-D100L-2DB-DeoxIT-Brush-Bottle-7-4-ml-/221552642283?hash=item33959108eb:g:u8EAAOSw-jhUGxg9

 

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
wrote:

Thanks, Greg.  The dropper bottle might be the way to go for my tach rather 
than the spray can,

 

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to use
the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female contact
can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times with a
bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question

The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
which I don't currently own.

Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40 
 
&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1

TIA,

Andrew
1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
1983 300TD white/blue

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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for diesel lovers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Citgo is the Venezuela state oil company.

Dan


> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On October 15, 2016 at 4:05 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> U Exxon. isn't that the chain that's owned by Chavez group?
>> 
>> From the now failed socialist state of Venezuela?
> 
> I thought that was Citgo.
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Re: [MBZ] Source for Dual Section Capacitor

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mine is working OK, but since capacitors age and eventually fail, I want to be 
proactive and see if I can source replacements.  I’m also wondering if it would 
work better with newer caps in it - I don’t have a point of reference, but 
figured I could swap them in to see if they made a difference.

I assumed the capacitors worked with the pump to make it vibrate. I’ve got to 
pop the cover again and trace out the circuit to see.

I can’t imagine the red light would be difficult to source.  I don’t have mine 
open right now but next time I do I’ll take a look.

Dan


> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan wrote:
> 
>> It’s a weird application.  It’s a capacitor that’s used to run the pulse 
>> pump on my 1960s Italian Omre brand espresso machine.  These machines used 
>> either rotary pumps or pulse pumps.  Mine has a pulse pump and I’m almost 
>> sure the way this capacitor is wired into the pump that it’s what provides 
>> the “pulsing” for the pump.
>> 
> 
> As you know, I have the same Omre Automatica espresso machine.  Older
> Automatica pumps were rotary pumps and the operator controls are
> buttons not 5-position rotary switch that we have.  Our (DanP & DanG
> aka mao) Automatica is vibratory pump.  Your Automatica is not
> operating properly?  My Automatica does espresso but steam for milk is
> very choppy and ineffective.  I thought the vibe pump was self
> contained, not pulsed with circuitry as you suggest?
> 
> Another Automatica question for you is the red light when the machine
> is turned on.  My red light is kaput.  Find replacement for me...
> since you have yours open now?
> 
> Here is a video of the Automatica lever killer:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRbjsZWRjC8
> 
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for diesel lovers

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 15, 2016 at 4:05 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> U Exxon. isn't that the chain that's owned by Chavez group?
> 
> From the now failed socialist state of Venezuela?

I thought that was Citgo.

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Actually, I have a guy lined up to swap a nice 1984 300SD for my S420 +cash, 
but he’s in flippin’ Portland.  I don’t have the time to do a cross-country car 
recovery, not to mention I don’t want to do 3,000+ miles in a car I’m not 
familiar with.

If that 1990 350SDL rodbender is still for sale when I get back into town next 
weekend I might go take a look.  I’m pretty sure it will be gone by then.

Dan

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:25 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> A few replacements for Dan from out west
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5782316843.html
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5813047678.html
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5821385295.html - 1991 300TD third row 
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816394006.html
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816104910.html
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5801380373.html
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5808442515.html
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5771341388.html - Maybe a GD?
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5789906364.html
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5799500236.html
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Greg is this the stuff?   If so, is that a good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-D100L-2DB-DeoxIT-Brush-Bottle-7-4-ml-/221552642283?hash=item33959108eb:g:u8EAAOSw-jhUGxg9

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Thanks, Greg.  The dropper bottle might be the way to go for my tach
> rather than the spray can,
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
>> different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
>> with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
>> contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to
>> use
>> the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
>> liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female
>> contact
>> can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times
>> with a
>> bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
>> Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question
>>
>> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
>> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
>> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
>> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
>> Deoxit
>> which I don't currently own.
>>
>> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
>> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
>> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Andrew
>> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
>> 1983 300TD white/blue
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Good lessons for all of us in boffem.

When I was growing up, I'd occasionally hear something about Frank 
Armstrong, or his nieces and nephews at school with me would sometimes 
mention "Uncle Frank," and I knew that he had been a bomber pilot, but I 
didn't realize who he really was and what he had done until I had been in 
B-52's for a few years.


On the late afternoon in about '48, when I met 'im, I was riding my bike 
past his sister's (our local postmaster, Mrs. Valentine) house and saw 
several family members sitting on the front porch.  I waved to them, and 
Mrs. Valentine called to me, "Hey, Wilton, come and meet my brother, Gen. 
Armstrong."  He was very friendly and encouraging for me to do well in 
school.  I assured him that I would.  Mrs. Valentine already knew me fairly 
well and told him, "Oh, he is already."


W

- Original Message - 
From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today


That movie was the basis of a leadership course I took shortly after I was 
commissioned into the USN.  I've never forgotten that movie, plan to watch 
it again with my daughter some day when she's older.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 15, 2016 2:24:33 PM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:

'Reminds me:  I was in 8th Air Force at Robins AF, GA, and here at
Seymour
Johnson AFB, NC.

Lt. Gen. Frank Armstrong, from my hometown, Nashville, NC (born 15 or
20 mi.
away, but claimed Nashville, where his sister lived), helped establish
8th
Air Force in England in 1942.

The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High," is based on his actions.  His part,
Frank
Savage in the movie, is played by Gregory Peck.

I met 'im sitting on his sister's front porch one afternoon in 'bout
1948.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today



Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth

off of

I-95 down in Florida.  I've often been tempted to stop there, that
temptation is now greater.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 14, 2016 5:49:25 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14

became

know as Black Thursday.

http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-eighth-air-force-raid-on-schweinfurt.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt

60 of 291 planes were lost, and another 17 were so badly damaged that
they were scrapped ofter the mission.   22% of the men on the raid

were


lost.

Remember today, the men of the USAAF who flow those missions and
especially those who were lost.



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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks, Greg.  The dropper bottle might be the way to go for my tach rather
than the spray can,

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
> different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
> with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
> contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to use
> the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
> liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female contact
> can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times with
> a
> bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question
>
> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
> which I don't currently own.
>
> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> 1983 300TD white/blue
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Quite an array.  No great bargains.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:25 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> A few replacements for Dan from out west
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5782316843.html
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5813047678.html
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5821385295.html - 1991 300TD third
> row
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816394006.html
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816104910.html
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5801380373.html
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5808442515.html
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5771341388.html - Maybe a GD?
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5789906364.html
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5799500236.html
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure about that. I don’t recall seeing the zundfogle casting mark on
> an M119.
> >
> > Dan questioning the authenticity of his engine Man
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It has the rare zundfogle engine
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/15/16 3:39 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Will it go a million miles?
> >>>
> >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >>> 1982 300CD
> >>> 1990 300D
> >>> Wickford RI
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 15, 2016 3:27 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale
> today.
>  It may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos
> done
>  after a good Martha’ing:
> 
>  Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of
>  putting it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for
> sure.
>  116k, everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re
> just
>  intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel
> centers,
>  the unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.
> 
>  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_
> 4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0
> 
>  Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m
>  jonesing for one really bad…
> 
>  Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Source for Dual Section Capacitor

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dan wrote:

> It’s a weird application.  It’s a capacitor that’s used to run the pulse pump 
> on my 1960s Italian Omre brand espresso machine.  These machines used either 
> rotary pumps or pulse pumps.  Mine has a pulse pump and I’m almost sure the 
> way this capacitor is wired into the pump that it’s what provides the 
> “pulsing” for the pump.
>

As you know, I have the same Omre Automatica espresso machine.  Older
Automatica pumps were rotary pumps and the operator controls are
buttons not 5-position rotary switch that we have.  Our (DanP & DanG
aka mao) Automatica is vibratory pump.  Your Automatica is not
operating properly?  My Automatica does espresso but steam for milk is
very choppy and ineffective.  I thought the vibe pump was self
contained, not pulsed with circuitry as you suggest?

Another Automatica question for you is the red light when the machine
is turned on.  My red light is kaput.  Find replacement for me...
since you have yours open now?

Here is a video of the Automatica lever killer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRbjsZWRjC8

mao

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to use
the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female contact
can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times with a
bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question

The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
which I don't currently own.

Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1

TIA,

Andrew
1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
1983 300TD white/blue

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[clay via Mercedes]

A few replacements for Dan from out west

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5782316843.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5813047678.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5821385295.html - 1991 300TD third row 

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816394006.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5816104910.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5801380373.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5808442515.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5771341388.html - Maybe a GD?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5789906364.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5799500236.html




> On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not sure about that. I don’t recall seeing the zundfogle casting mark on an 
> M119.
> 
> Dan questioning the authenticity of his engine Man
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It has the rare zundfogle engine
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/15/16 3:39 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Will it go a million miles?
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> 1982 300CD
>>> 1990 300D
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2016 3:27 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.
 It may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done
 after a good Martha’ing:
 
 Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of
 putting it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.
 116k, everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just
 intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers,
 the unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0
 
 Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m
 jonesing for one really bad…
 
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for diesel lovers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Exxon is my shorthand fore ANY and ALL service stations

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> U Exxon. isn't that the chain that's owned by Chavez group?
>
> From the now failed socialist state of Venezuela?
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Only when charging stations that offer 10 minute "fill ups" can be found
> at
> > every Exxon will electric cars go mainstream.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Mao sez:
> > >
> > > "So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
> > > internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps."
> > >
> > > Yup!  It is called a horse!
> > >
> > > Mountain Man via Mercedes 
> > >> October 15, 2016 at 2:25 PM
> > >> Kaleb wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm not even sure what that is supposed to mean
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Someday, an EV that has similar historic character of our W123 today -
> > >> that might be nice, perhaps.  EV works in a city, but will not have
> > >> the flexibility that fossil-fuel internal-combustion transportation
> > >> provides.  So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
> > >> internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps.
> > >> Or not.  We can deal with all things, correct?  Is this better?
> > >> mao
> > >>
> > >> mao
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

All of the Chrysler vehicles are using that as of 2017 as well as a lot of GM 
vehicles. I can say for sure having been in some 2017 GM vehicles with it this 
summer it does not cool near as well as r134, takes a long time to start 
cooling and does not get as cold.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On October 15, 2016 at 3:44 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> --FT wrote:
>>> I just heard on some NPR report on the radio that there is a push now to ban
>>> HFCs...
>> 
>> Does EV transportation use HFCs?
> 
> The Chevy Spark uses
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/FRE1/1234YF/N1782.oap
> 
> only $999.99 for a ten pound can at my local O'Reilly's.
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

He is on crack

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> On Oct 15, 2016, at 2:45 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> That is a sweet looking ride.  Should be able to get close to asking
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.  
>> It may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done 
>> after a good Martha’ing:
>> 
>> Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of 
>> putting it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.  
>> 116k, everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just 
>> intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers, the 
>> unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0
>> 
>> Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m jonesing 
>> for one really bad…
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for diesel lovers

[G Mann via Mercedes]

U Exxon. isn't that the chain that's owned by Chavez group?

>From the now failed socialist state of Venezuela?

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Only when charging stations that offer 10 minute "fill ups" can be found at
> every Exxon will electric cars go mainstream.
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Mao sez:
> >
> > "So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
> > internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps."
> >
> > Yup!  It is called a horse!
> >
> > Mountain Man via Mercedes 
> >> October 15, 2016 at 2:25 PM
> >> Kaleb wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm not even sure what that is supposed to mean
> >>>
> >>
> >> Someday, an EV that has similar historic character of our W123 today -
> >> that might be nice, perhaps.  EV works in a city, but will not have
> >> the flexibility that fossil-fuel internal-combustion transportation
> >> provides.  So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
> >> internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps.
> >> Or not.  We can deal with all things, correct?  Is this better?
> >> mao
> >>
> >> mao
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for diesel lovers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Only when charging stations that offer 10 minute "fill ups" can be found at
every Exxon will electric cars go mainstream.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mao sez:
>
> "So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
> internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps."
>
> Yup!  It is called a horse!
>
> Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>> October 15, 2016 at 2:25 PM
>> Kaleb wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not even sure what that is supposed to mean
>>>
>>
>> Someday, an EV that has similar historic character of our W123 today -
>> that might be nice, perhaps.  EV works in a city, but will not have
>> the flexibility that fossil-fuel internal-combustion transportation
>> provides.  So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
>> internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps.
>> Or not.  We can deal with all things, correct?  Is this better?
>> mao
>>
>> mao
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

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> On October 15, 2016 at 3:44 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> --FT wrote:
> > I just heard on some NPR report on the radio that there is a push now to ban
> > HFCs...
> 
> Does EV transportation use HFCs?

The Chevy Spark uses
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/FRE1/1234YF/N1782.oap

only $999.99 for a ten pound can at my local O'Reilly's.

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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Yes, with an electric compressor.

On Saturday, October 15, 2016, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> --FT wrote:
> > I just heard on some NPR report on the radio that there is a push now to
> ban
> > HFCs...
>
> Does EV transportation use HFCs?
> ...curious...
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hope so.  I’m more interested in finding a nice W126 diesel….

Dan


> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:45 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> That is a sweet looking ride.  Should be able to get close to asking
> 
> clay
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[clay via Mercedes]

That is a sweet looking ride.  Should be able to get close to asking

clay

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.  It 
> may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done after 
> a good Martha’ing:
> 
> Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of putting 
> it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.  116k, 
> everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just 
> intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers, the 
> unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0
> 
> Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m jonesing 
> for one really bad…
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not sure about that. I don’t recall seeing the zundfogle casting mark on an 
M119.

Dan questioning the authenticity of his engine Man


> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It has the rare zundfogle engine
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 10/15/16 3:39 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> Will it go a million miles?
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> 1982 300CD
>> 1990 300D
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Oct 15, 2016 3:27 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.
>>> It may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done
>>> after a good Martha’ing:
>>> 
>>> Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of
>>> putting it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.
>>> 116k, everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just
>>> intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers,
>>> the unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.
>>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m
>>> jonesing for one really bad…
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrocarbon AC Refrigerant Report

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--FT wrote:
> I just heard on some NPR report on the radio that there is a push now to ban
> HFCs...

Does EV transportation use HFCs?
...curious...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Source for Dual Section Capacitor

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

OK.  Wasn’t sure.  All the metal can caps I’ve worked with in the past were 
electrolytics, but then again, it didn’t occur to me that there are no polarity 
markings, either….

Thanks again!

Dan


> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 15:28:01 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Craig,
>> 
>> Is a ceramic disc capacitor an appropriate substitution for he metal
>> can (electrolytic?) cap that’s in there now?
> 
> The capacitor in there is not an electrolytic. Yes, a ceramic disk
> capacitor is an appropriate substitute.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I never got to see the movie much, but i'd do anything i could to stay 
up and watch 12 o'Clock High when it was on TV in the 60s.

Th movie Patton is a good leadership study also


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 2:32 PM
That movie was the basis of a leadership course I took shortly after I 
was commissioned into the USN. I've never forgotten that movie, plan 
to watch it again with my daughter some day when she's older.

WILTON via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 1:24 PM
'Reminds me:  I was in 8th Air Force at Robins AF, GA, and here at 
Seymour Johnson AFB, NC.


Lt. Gen. Frank Armstrong, from my hometown, Nashville, NC (born 15 or 
20 mi. away, but claimed Nashville, where his sister lived), helped 
establish 8th Air Force in England in 1942.


The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High," is based on his actions.  His part, 
Frank Savage in the movie, is played by Gregory Peck.


I met 'im sitting on his sister's front porch one afternoon in 'bout 
1948.


Wilton

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Max Dillon via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 11:04 AM
Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth 
off of I-95 down in Florida. I've often been tempted to stop there, 
that temptation is now greater.

Curley McLain 
October 14, 2016 at 4:49 AM
Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14 became 
know as Black Thursday.


http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-eighth-air-force-raid-on-schweinfurt.htm 



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt

60 of 291 planes were lost, and another 17 were so badly damaged that 
they were scrapped ofter the mission.   22% of the men on the raid 
were lost.


Remember today, the men of the USAAF who flow those missions and 
especially those who were lost.





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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It has the rare zundfogle engine

--FT


On 10/15/16 3:39 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Will it go a million miles?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 15, 2016 3:27 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:


In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.
It may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done
after a good Martha’ing:

Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of
putting it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.
116k, everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just
intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers,
the unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0

Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m
jonesing for one really bad…

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Wow. Does it ever end with this creep!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yep.  Al Capone.  Only thing that stuck was tax evasion.

Also quite applicable to the CCF and CCFF.  (if ever the DOJ and IR 
dis-service are not owned by the CCF!!!)


Some day some way, someone out to make a name will nail one or all of em.

or the next generation crook (moochele?) will decide to take over the 
territory from the old fogies.  (IMHO barry is too lazy, like Billy 
bob)   Moochele is dangerous.



G Mann via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 2:32 PM
In a word ... "Trouble" ... it sticks and follows everywhere they go.

John "teflon" Gotti the mob boss truly believed he was "untouchable" ...
but he died in jail... There is a certain apex in criminals lifetimes 
where

the facts catch up with the lies and overwhelm the criminal

That perfect storm has formed... it's just looking for the place to make
first contact.

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Mountain Man via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM

Nothing sticks to anything named Clinton, nothing!!
...or... Name something that has stuck to anything named Clinton?
mao

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G Mann via Mercedes 
October 14, 2016 at 10:44 AM
I see the script being written for the next reality show on TV.

Working title is " 50 Shades of Evil"

You just couldn't make this stuff up fast enough, yet every day more is
revealed.

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Curley McLain 
October 14, 2016 at 10:40 AM
CCF?  Podesta?  take yer pick!


Jon Agne via Mercedes 
October 14, 2016 at 10:08 AM
Which creep?




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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Will it go a million miles?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 15, 2016 3:27 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.
> It may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done
> after a good Martha’ing:
>
> Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of
> putting it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.
> 116k, everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just
> intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers,
> the unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0
>
> Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m
> jonesing for one really bad…
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Source for Dual Section Capacitor

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 15:28:01 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Craig,
> 
> Is a ceramic disc capacitor an appropriate substitution for he metal
> can (electrolytic?) cap that’s in there now?

The capacitor in there is not an electrolytic. Yes, a ceramic disk
capacitor is an appropriate substitute.


Craig

 
> > On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:38:00 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> I know there are a number of electronics folks here.  Would one of
> >> you mind taking a look at this dual section capacitor and giving me
> >> your opinion on the value(s) and a possible source?
> >> 
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwkdwt4rope8mdq/IMG_1230.jpg?dl=0
> > 
> > It's an AC input filtering capacitor set which is made up of three
> > capacitors:
> > 
> > - One 0.2 ufd 250 VAC capacitor between the line terminals
> >  for differential-mode suppression (the "X" capacitor)
> > 
> > - Two 0.0025 ufd 250 VAC capacitors, one from each line
> >  terminal to ground, for common-mode suppression (the "Y"
> >  capacitors)
> > 
> > https://electrosome.com/x-and-y-rated-capacitors/
> > - Talks about the why of input filtering capacitors
> > 
> > http://www.mouser.com/new/Kemet-Electronics/kemet-900-caps/
> > - Sales information
> > 
> > You want two
> > 
> > http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0virtualkey0virtualkeyC907U222MYVDBA7317
> > for the "Y" capacitors.
> > 
> > The corresponding "X" capacitors from the same manufacturer go up to
> > only 0.01 ufd, which indicates your 0.2 ufd capacitor is much large
> > than typically used.
> > 
> > The 0.01 ufd capacitor is
> >
> > http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0virtualkey0virtualkeyC981U103MZVDBA7317

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Re: [MBZ] Wow. Does it ever end with this creep!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Oh look, same thing happening here: 
http://www.postandcourier.com/20161013/161019753/elliott-summey-remains-county-council-chairman-despite-call-from-national-action-network


And what is that about you ask? 
http://www.postandcourier.com/20161004/161009735/recordings-show-summey-playing-both-sides-on-i-526


Another county council member was waving around a thick notebook full of 
depositions and subpoenaed information he had just received.  A copy 
shall be delivered to me soon, containing loads of interesting information.


--FT


On 10/15/16 3:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

In a word ... "Trouble" ... it sticks and follows everywhere they go.

John "teflon" Gotti the mob boss truly believed he was "untouchable" ...
but he died in jail... There is a certain apex in criminals lifetimes where
the facts catch up with the lies and overwhelm the criminal

That perfect storm has formed... it's just looking for the place to make
first contact.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Grant wrote:

I see the script being written for the next reality show on TV.

Working title is " 50 Shades of Evil"

You just couldn't make this stuff up fast enough, yet every day more is
revealed.

Nothing sticks to anything named Clinton, nothing!!
...or... Name something that has stuck to anything named Clinton?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Stop looking!   Then they show up everywhere!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 2:26 PM
In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale 
today. It may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some 
photos done after a good Martha’ing:


Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look. I’m thinking of 
putting it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for 
sure. 116k, everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, 
they’re just intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black 
wheel centers, the unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0

Enjoy! And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m 
jonesing for one really bad…


Dan


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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That movie was the basis of a leadership course I took shortly after I was 
commissioned into the USN.  I've never forgotten that movie, plan to watch it 
again with my daughter some day when she's older.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 15, 2016 2:24:33 PM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:
>'Reminds me:  I was in 8th Air Force at Robins AF, GA, and here at
>Seymour 
>Johnson AFB, NC.
>
>Lt. Gen. Frank Armstrong, from my hometown, Nashville, NC (born 15 or
>20 mi. 
>away, but claimed Nashville, where his sister lived), helped establish
>8th 
>Air Force in England in 1942.
>
>The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High," is based on his actions.  His part,
>Frank 
>Savage in the movie, is played by Gregory Peck.
>
>I met 'im sitting on his sister's front porch one afternoon in 'bout
>1948.
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Cc: "Max Dillon" 
>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today
>
>
>> Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth
>off of 
>> I-95 down in Florida.  I've often been tempted to stop there, that 
>> temptation is now greater.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>>
>> On October 14, 2016 5:49:25 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>>Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14
>became
>>>know as Black Thursday.
>>>
>>>http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-eighth-air-force-raid-on-schweinfurt.htm
>>>
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt
>>>
>>>60 of 291 planes were lost, and another 17 were so badly damaged that
>>>they were scrapped ofter the mission.   22% of the men on the raid
>were
>>>
>>>lost.
>>>
>>>Remember today, the men of the USAAF who flow those missions and
>>>especially those who were lost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

WHAT IS THE LOWES U WILL GO TO SALES ME THIS CAR 2DAY CASH MUNEY?

--CL


On 10/15/16 3:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.  It 
may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done after a 
good Martha’ing:

Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of putting 
it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.  116k, 
everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just 
intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers, the 
unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0

Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m jonesing for 
one really bad…

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for diesel lovers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Mao sez:

"So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps."

Yup!  It is called a horse!


Mountain Man via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 2:25 PM
Kaleb wrote:

I'm not even sure what that is supposed to mean


Someday, an EV that has similar historic character of our W123 today -
that might be nice, perhaps.  EV works in a city, but will not have
the flexibility that fossil-fuel internal-combustion transportation
provides.  So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps.
Or not.  We can deal with all things, correct?  Is this better?
mao

mao


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Re: [MBZ] Wow. Does it ever end with this creep!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

In a word ... "Trouble" ... it sticks and follows everywhere they go.

John "teflon" Gotti the mob boss truly believed he was "untouchable" ...
but he died in jail... There is a certain apex in criminals lifetimes where
the facts catch up with the lies and overwhelm the criminal

That perfect storm has formed... it's just looking for the place to make
first contact.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Grant wrote:
> > I see the script being written for the next reality show on TV.
> >
> > Working title is " 50 Shades of Evil"
> >
> > You just couldn't make this stuff up fast enough, yet every day more is
> > revealed.
>
> Nothing sticks to anything named Clinton, nothing!!
> ...or... Name something that has stuck to anything named Clinton?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Source for Dual Section Capacitor

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Craig,

Is a ceramic disc capacitor an appropriate substitution for he metal can 
(electrolytic?) cap that’s in there now?

Dan

 
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:38:00 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I know there are a number of electronics folks here.  Would one of you
>> mind taking a look at this dual section capacitor and giving me your
>> opinion on the value(s) and a possible source?
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwkdwt4rope8mdq/IMG_1230.jpg?dl=0
> 
> It's an AC input filtering capacitor set which is made up of three
> capacitors:
> 
>   - One 0.2 ufd 250 VAC capacitor between the line terminals
>  for differential-mode suppression (the "X" capacitor)
> 
>   - Two 0.0025 ufd 250 VAC capacitors, one from each line
>  terminal to ground, for common-mode suppression (the "Y"
>  capacitors)
> 
> https://electrosome.com/x-and-y-rated-capacitors/
>   - Talks about the why of input filtering capacitors
> 
> http://www.mouser.com/new/Kemet-Electronics/kemet-900-caps/
>   - Sales information
> 
> You want two
> 
> http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0virtualkey0virtualkeyC907U222MYVDBA7317
> for the "Y" capacitors.
> 
> The corresponding "X" capacitors from the same manufacturer go up to
> only 0.01 ufd, which indicates your 0.2 ufd capacitor is much large
> than typically used.
> 
> The 0.01 ufd capacitor is
>
> http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0virtualkey0virtualkeyC981U103MZVDBA7317
> 
> 
> Craig
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[MBZ] 1994 S420 Sale Preparation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In anticipation of finding a nice W126 I prepped the S420 for sale today.  It 
may still be a few weeks or more, but I’ve got to get some photos done after a 
good Martha’ing:

Here’s the dropbox album if you want to take a look.  I’m thinking of putting 
it up for close to $5000, definitely in the high $4000s for sure.  116k, 
everything but the headlight wipers work (and they do, they’re just 
intermittent) and a lot of nice details like the MB black wheel centers, the 
unobtanium MB mud flaps, safety triangle, etc.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pro8vg8uuxud24x/AAAvwnw2CHcY_4EZYP8TA_Opa?dl=0

Enjoy!  And let me know if you see a nice W126 diesel around - I’m jonesing for 
one really bad…

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

i just unscrewed the switch from the back of the lock.  three screws and 
yer done!  No need to unplug the plug.   DON"T CUT THE WIRES


I had to repair a 124 where some moron had done that.  Doing so can 
leave you F.O.R.D. 


Worst case, cut the lock in half with a cutoff wheel!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 1:11 PM
You have to be able to turn the key to release the big plug off the 
back. You are probably going to have to break the connector or cut the 
wires and splice in the connector from the other car which will be a 
big pain on the ass.


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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for diesel lovers

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote:
> I'm not even sure what that is supposed to mean

Someday, an EV that has similar historic character of our W123 today -
that might be nice, perhaps.  EV works in a city, but will not have
the flexibility that fossil-fuel internal-combustion transportation
provides.  So... someday, something other than outlawed fossil-fuel
internal-combustion or EV will be used for transportation, perhaps.
Or not.  We can deal with all things, correct?  Is this better?
mao

mao wrote something Kaleb did not understand:
>> EV makes sense for a while.  Gimme a W123 of EV - we can have
>> transport for a few years.  After that? - we can work on that.  We
>> cannot deal with constriction of innovation or invention.  Innovation
>> and invention are totally controlled today.  EV is okay.  Today's
>> activities is not a path to future innovation and invention.  There
>> are other ideas out there.

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Re: [MBZ] Wow. Does it ever end with this creep!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
> I see the script being written for the next reality show on TV.
>
> Working title is " 50 Shades of Evil"
>
> You just couldn't make this stuff up fast enough, yet every day more is
> revealed.

Nothing sticks to anything named Clinton, nothing!!
...or... Name something that has stuck to anything named Clinton?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

BTDT numerous times, and in each case the tach worked maybe for half a day
at most before quitting again. An annoying little voice inside me keeps on
telling me it's the instrument cluster gauge but I really don't want to go
there. For $15 I will throw the dice and try the deoxit.

On Oct 15, 2016 2:59 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Yes I was going to say. If no butts fold over matchbook cover
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
>
> On Oct 15, 2016 1:49 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wasn't that the ciggy butt fix?
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 10/15/16 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> >> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
> >> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or
> slightly
> >> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
> >> Deoxit
> >> which I don't currently own.
> >>
> >> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> >> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
> >> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
> >>
> >> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> >> 1983 300TD white/blue
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

For Andrew, I don't think a roach will work.

--FT


On 10/15/16 2:59 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Yes I was going to say. If no butts fold over matchbook cover

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 15, 2016 1:49 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:


Wasn't that the ciggy butt fix?

--R


On 10/15/16 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
Deoxit
which I don't currently own.

Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1

TIA,

Andrew
1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
1983 300TD white/blue

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I was going to say. If no butts fold over matchbook cover

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 15, 2016 1:49 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Wasn't that the ciggy butt fix?
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/15/16 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
>> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
>> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
>> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
>> Deoxit
>> which I don't currently own.
>>
>> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
>> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
>> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Andrew
>> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
>> 1983 300TD white/blue
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Answers the Trolley Problem

[G Mann via Mercedes]

The correct answer requires the correct question:

If my autonomous car kills a child, who gets sued and where are the deep
pockets  to collect said certain judgement?

If you "reside" in an autonomous car.. are you legally in control of it?
Did YOU program the decision making of said car, which failed to recognize
it was killing said children.. ?

Once case law is established in such a suit and there will be a suit...
what precedents will be set?

Hypothetical legal basis: If you are drunk, choose to hire a taxi to drive
you home, and are a passenger in said taxi that strikes and kills said
child... are YOU, as passenger liable? Or, is the taxi driver and the cab
company, who holds the commercial insurance policy for said cab?

Is there a legal comparative between a hired taxi, and an autonomous car?

Legal eagles on this board care to try that case in hypothetical?

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If you’re in the car, you live:
>
> http://jalopnik.com/mercedes-decides-who-an-autonomous-car-
> should-save-and-1787749419
>
> Dan
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[MBZ] OT Gullah

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If you want to hear Queen Quet speaking Gullah go to about 1:30 then she 
switches to something you might find a bit more understandable.


I actually picked up a good bit of what she was saying.

http://www.spreaker.com/user/sevenonseven/s1e1-who-are-the-gullah-geechee-people-e

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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's awesome.  I think you are pretty much a badass for strapping on a 
Buff and flying into some nasty stuff, but these guys were even more 
badass, not having "modern" gadgets and radar and sensors and such, and 
flying beat-up patched-up planes on those missions every day.  Seems 
like air war then was a lot less "stand-off" than it is today, again not 
to diminish in any way the guys who do that stuff now but it just seems 
like it so much more up close and visceral.  Just hearing some stories 
from my pilot neighbor was hair-raising (and I have no hair!  Well, I 
guess I had a bit then...).  I think I mentioned too, my uncle was on 
the USS Bush that got kamikazeed and sunk, he survived after floating 
around in the water for quite a while.  "It was just what we did" he 
says.  unh huh.  I think he just passed 90yo and is still going pretty 
strong so I guess he had some good mojo going on that day too.


BTW how are y'all doing up there with the flooding?  Saw some pics of 
Kinston and around there and it was really bad.  Real bad down here in 
SC in some places too, right now the rivers are flooding from all the 
runoff, that takes several days to work itself down to the ocean.  Full 
moon high tides this weekend are not helping.  Seems like it is even 
worse than a year ago.


--R


On 10/15/16 2:24 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
'Reminds me:  I was in 8th Air Force at Robins AF, GA, and here at 
Seymour Johnson AFB, NC.


Lt. Gen. Frank Armstrong, from my hometown, Nashville, NC (born 15 or 
20 mi. away, but claimed Nashville, where his sister lived), helped 
establish 8th Air Force in England in 1942.


The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High," is based on his actions.  His part, 
Frank Savage in the movie, is played by Gregory Peck.


I met 'im sitting on his sister's front porch one afternoon in 'bout 
1948.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today


Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth 
off of I-95 down in Florida.  I've often been tempted to stop there, 
that temptation is now greater.

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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 14, 2016 5:49:25 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14 became
know as Black Thursday.

http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-eighth-air-force-raid-on-schweinfurt.htm 



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt

60 of 291 planes were lost, and another 17 were so badly damaged that
they were scrapped ofter the mission.   22% of the men on the raid were

lost.

Remember today, the men of the USAAF who flow those missions and
especially those who were lost.



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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yes, get one of the retires to escort ya.   Likely hafta stop at or near 
front gate to get visitor pass.  Quick and easy.


Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today



I might just do that.  Thanks for the suggestion, Wilton.

It’s right inside the front gate, so it’s not like one would have to go 
far.  For that matter, I know a couple of USAF retirees who could probably 
get me on the base if I really wanted.


Dan


On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:56 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:


Call base Public Affairs Office and ask if there is some way you can 
arrange to visit the aircraft.  They should be happy to help - that's 
what they're - public  relations.


Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 


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Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today





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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Reminds me:  I was in 8th Air Force at Robins AF, GA, and here at Seymour 
Johnson AFB, NC.


Lt. Gen. Frank Armstrong, from my hometown, Nashville, NC (born 15 or 20 mi. 
away, but claimed Nashville, where his sister lived), helped establish 8th 
Air Force in England in 1942.


The movie, "Twelve O'Clock High," is based on his actions.  His part, Frank 
Savage in the movie, is played by Gregory Peck.


I met 'im sitting on his sister's front porch one afternoon in 'bout 1948.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today


Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth off of 
I-95 down in Florida.  I've often been tempted to stop there, that 
temptation is now greater.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 14, 2016 5:49:25 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14 became
know as Black Thursday.

http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-eighth-air-force-raid-on-schweinfurt.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt

60 of 291 planes were lost, and another 17 were so badly damaged that
they were scrapped ofter the mission.   22% of the men on the raid were

lost.

Remember today, the men of the USAAF who flow those missions and
especially those who were lost.



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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I might just do that.  Thanks for the suggestion, Wilton.

It’s right inside the front gate, so it’s not like one would have to go far.  
For that matter, I know a couple of USAF retirees who could probably get me on 
the base if I really wanted.

Dan

 
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:56 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Call base Public Affairs Office and ask if there is some way you can arrange 
> to visit the aircraft.  They should be happy to help - that's what they're - 
> public  relations.
> 
> Wilt
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes List" 
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:11:38 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> You have to be able to turn the key to release the big plug off the
> back. You are probably going to have to break the connector or cut the
> wires and splice in the connector from the other car which will be a
> big pain on the ass. 

Or try the "Wilton Procedure" to vibrate the key in the lock with hopes
of getting it to turn one last time.


Craig



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> > On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
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> > Well I got the steering lock out steering colum. I ground the locking
> > pin until the assembly came out since I couldn't get the key to turn.
> > Semi good news is that the same lock mechanism is in my dead 87 "190
> > 2.5 Turbo diesel.
> > 
> > Question should I be able to pull the connector plug on the end of
> > the ignition switch with the tumbler still in place or will I have to
> > start cutting.
> > 
> > The plan is to use the steering lock and tumbler from the 190 and get
> > a matching tumbler for the E300D, so I do not have to dig into and
> > change all the locks over!
> > 
> > Bob Massmann
> > 1995 E300D
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:04 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Mitch Haley
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D
> > 
> > 
> > You're going to wish you'd never turned it to "lock" when it didn't
> > want to go. Wilton got lucky, attached his key to a vibrating detail
> > sander and buzzed the cylinder wafers into the 'unlocked' position
> > one last time so he could remove the cylinder.
> > 
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 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
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 '72 220/8
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Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You have to be able to turn the key to release the big plug off the back. You 
are probably going to have to break the connector or cut the wires and splice 
in the connector from the other car which will be a big pain on the ass. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well I got the steering lock out steering colum. I ground the locking pin 
> until the assembly came out since I couldn't get the key to turn. Semi good 
> news is that the same lock mechanism is in my dead 87 "190 2.5 Turbo diesel.
> 
> Question should I be able to pull the connector plug on the end of the 
> ignition switch with the tumbler still in place or will I have to start 
> cutting.
> 
> The plan is to use the steering lock and tumbler from the 190 and get a 
> matching tumbler for the E300D, so I do not have to dig into and change all 
> the locks over!
> 
> Bob Massmann
> 1995 E300D
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:04 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Mitch Haley
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D
> 
> 
> You're going to wish you'd never turned it to "lock" when it didn't want to 
> go.
> Wilton got lucky, attached his key to a vibrating detail sander and buzzed the
> cylinder wafers into the 'unlocked' position one last time so he could remove
> the cylinder.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Fer sayle.

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It turns out that our daughter informed our SIL that he has too many
projects already and will have to let this opportunity pass . . .

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 7:44 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> OK - our SIL who lives in Quincy now was looking for a used MB as a second
> car - I'll tell him to get in contact with you if he's still looking.
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> OK Don.
>>
>> You are correct. My mistake, 603.961 is in the 300TD, it was originally a
>> 603.960. ( replaced by Ritter in Colorado. )
>>
>> 190D has 602.961.
>>
>> Daily driver? Not sure if I'd chance an engine runaway with the oil
>> getting into the engine at speed. The rings MAY loosen up when
>> driven/heated/cooled ?
>>
>> Also, it sat for a long time and the rubber bits would probably need
>> attention.
>>
>> With a bit of creative welding the TD could be a beater, never let me
>> down mechanically.
>>
>> A/C is NOT Ice cold except in the winter below 32 deg, F.
>>
>> Quincy MA is the other side of Boston from here. Depending on traffic
>> half hour to 45 min. or so.
>>
>>
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>> Diesel preferred.
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of OK Don via
>> Mercedes 
>> Sent: 14 October 2016 19:36
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: OK Don
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fer sayle.
>>
>> Is it the case that the 300TD has a 603.9? engine, and the 190Dt has the
>> 602.961 engine? How close are you to Quincy, MA? Could the 190Dt be a
>> daily
>> driver as is if you don't mind the smoke? (opps - forgot the emissions
>> test
>> in MA).
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Alles.
>> >
>> > For $1.00 each you could be the new owner of a 1987 300TD and/or a 1987
>> > 190Dt.
>> >
>> > The TD has a rusted passenger side shock mount, driveable for short
>> > distances. or farther if you somehow stabilize the said tower.
>> >
>> > Runs and drives otherwise OK. Has a 602.961 engine. Have some paperwork.
>> > Smoke Silver
>> >
>> > The 190 has a decent body etc. It sat in a garage in Conn. for about 10
>> > years. The head has been rebuilt. The engine runs but smokes, I think,
>> > because the rings on #5 cyl are stuck, (Doh!). I have a full set of
>> rings
>> > and head-set, etc., plus any 190D parts that I may have. Also Smoke
>> Silver.
>> >
>> > If anyone wants a 4KW generator (Coleman type, etc) good running and
>> > generating, also $1. Color Green-ish.
>> >
>> > First come, first serve.
>> >
>> >
>> > Fred Moir.
>> > Lynn MA.
>> > Diesel preferred.
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>> who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Also, yes, spray both the male and female sections, then plug, in-plug them
several times.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
> which I don't currently own.
>
> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Fer sayle.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Manfred, I'm sure it's been done, pix and YouTube to show the way.


-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On October 15, 2016 12:57:54 PM EDT, MG via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Heck for a dollar I'm almost tempted to drive up to Mass. with a 
>trailer to pick up that TD just for the engine, or at least I 
>would if the engine would fit into an 83 TD. Don't know if anyone 
>has ever tried that one.
>
>Manfred
>
>
>> On 10/14/16 3:27 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Alles.
>>>
>>> For $1.00 each you could be the new owner of a 1987 300TD and/or a
>1987 190Dt.
>>>
>>> The TD has a rusted passenger side shock mount, driveable for short
>distances. or farther if you somehow stabilize the said tower.
>>>
>>> Runs and drives otherwise OK. Has a 602.961 engine. Have some
>paperwork. Smoke Silver
>>>
>>> The 190 has a decent body etc. It sat in a garage in Conn. for about
>10 years. The head has been rebuilt. The engine runs but smokes, I
>think, because the rings on #5 cyl are stuck, (Doh!). I have a full set
>of rings and head-set, etc., plus any 190D parts that I may have. Also
>Smoke Silver.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants a 4KW generator (Coleman type, etc) good running and
>generating, also $1. Color Green-ish.
>>>
>>> First come, first serve.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fred Moir.
>>> Lynn MA.
>>> Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I use this one for such - -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-Laboratories-DeoxIT-Contact-Cleaner-D5s-6-D5-5oz-can-/331541650749?hash=item4d316c1d3d:g:afsAAOSwHnFVibXO


On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
> which I don't currently own.
>
> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> 1983 300TD white/blue
>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Call base Public Affairs Office and ask if there is some way you can arrange 
to visit the aircraft.  They should be happy to help - that's what they're - 
public  relations.


Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today


I just found out the MacDill AFB, right here in Tampa, has a B-29 on static 
display.  Can’t get to it, though, as it’s on the base proper and not in a 
public area.  Dang.


Dan


On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth off 
of I-95 down in Florida.  I've often been tempted to stop there, that 
temptation is now greater.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 14, 2016 5:49:25 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14 became
know as Black Thursday.

http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-eighth-air-force-raid-on-schweinfurt.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt

60 of 291 planes were lost, and another 17 were so badly damaged that
they were scrapped ofter the mission.   22% of the men on the raid were

lost.

Remember today, the men of the USAAF who flow those missions and
especially those who were lost.



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Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You have to have the switch in the 1 position (Run) for the plug to pull 
out.



Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 11:31 AM
Well I got the steering lock out steering colum. I ground the locking 
pin until the assembly came out since I couldn't get the key to turn. 
Semi good news is that the same lock mechanism is in my dead 87 "190 
2.5 Turbo diesel.


Question should I be able to pull the connector plug on the end of the 
ignition switch with the tumbler still in place or will I have to 
start cutting.


The plan is to use the steering lock and tumbler from the 190 and get 
a matching tumbler for the E300D, so I do not have to dig into and 
change all the locks over!


Bob Massmann
1995 E300D


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Re: [MBZ] 73 years ago today

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You are welcome.  You might check out Martin Caiden's books.  One is 
called Black Thursday.  It is about this raid.  I think he also wrote 
The Thousand Plane Raid about the first allied raid with 1000 planes.  I 
read all that stuff 45-50 years ago.  Anything the school libary had or 
whatever I could get form scholastic or the local bookstore about WWII 
air and naval actions.  Run SIlent, Run Deep is a terrific book also.   
If you like subs, you should know about Mush Morton and the Wahoo.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
October 15, 2016 at 11:04 AM
Thanks for posting! I think there is a museum for The Mighty Eighth 
off of I-95 down in Florida. I've often been tempted to stop there, 
that temptation is now greater.

Curley McLain 
October 14, 2016 at 4:49 AM
Was an bombing mission which incurred record losses, and Oct 14 became 
know as Black Thursday.


http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-eighth-air-force-raid-on-schweinfurt.htm 



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt

60 of 291 planes were lost, and another 17 were so badly damaged that 
they were scrapped ofter the mission.   22% of the men on the raid 
were lost.


Remember today, the men of the USAAF who flow those missions and 
especially those who were lost.





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