Re: [MBZ] Radio plays

[clay via Mercedes]

I contemplated that solution but the radio shack moved and the coax ends look 
way too big.  It is also a temp solution until I repair the massive hole in the 
fender and put the Hirschmann back in.



> On Nov 26, 2016, at 4:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The proper way is to install connectors on both ends of cable, and use the
> appropriate adapter between them. You can't keep the impedance correct when
> you splice and solder coax. For instance, a male connector on each piece of
> wire, and a female-female connector between the two. Screwed up impedance
> at a splice will lower the signal level getting to the radio.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I had to replace the antenna on my Suburban years ago, it is pretty much
>> impossible to snake a new antenna cable from the antenna to the radio, so I
>> cut the old one and tried to bodge up a connector between the 2 cable
>> pieces but it has never worked right.  I was thinking to finally solder the
>> center conductor then wrap something around it and pull the
>> sheathing/shielding back together and solder it or something.  Is this how
>> you did it?
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> 
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Radio plays

[clay via Mercedes]

That is much as I recall doing that.

The car end of the coax had a really nice void in the center  tube where copper 
wire should live.  I did not want to but back a meter to find the copper on 
that end, but the copper shield loom was perfect.  I cut a length of copper 18 
gauge solid wire to stuff in there to give the other end something to hook to. 
The MB coax was fatter and being a tube, was able to accommodate the male form 
I made on the antenna plug copper end.   With the center mated, I pulled the 
shielding wire back over, which covered really well.  Electric tape covered it 
all.   I fired up the radio this morning and was able to pull in a bunch of FM. 
 AM is a non function.

clay

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had to replace the antenna on my Suburban years ago, it is pretty much 
> impossible to snake a new antenna cable from the antenna to the radio, so I 
> cut the old one and tried to bodge up a connector between the 2 cable pieces 
> but it has never worked right.  I was thinking to finally solder the center 
> conductor then wrap something around it and pull the sheathing/shielding back 
> together and solder it or something.  Is this how you did it?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 11/25/16 10:59 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>  Original Coax was cut and spliced with some odd thing before but that had 
>> failed as well.  Today I dug into both sides of the coax, the car end and 
>> the antenna hook up side.  Both had extensive weathering.  Bit of nibbling 
>> back to clean copper and pulled back the shielding, then mated the two.  
>> That should increase reception.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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> or petty,
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I used brush on contact cement IIRC.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would, but it’s messy since it’s a spray.  That’s why I like the rubber
> cement, especially when I’m just sealing up a small portion of the barrier.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> >
> > I use rubber cement to glue the moisture barrier back in place on the
> door panels.
> >
> > I use 3M spray 77.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A few stolen votes here and there she could be YOUR president.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> +1   You can't un-see looking at the witch.  Even a pottery one with
> plants growing out of it,
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> November 26, 2016 at 9:24 AM
>> Not falling for it, not clicking
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> November 26, 2016 at 7:53 AM
>> t.com/ip/Chia-Hillary-Clinton/
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] a good point a to b car $2500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"Thou shalt do whatever one wants."

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> BTW, you should look up and read the 11th amendment.
>
>
> I think he meant the eleventh _commandment_.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 123 with OM603 Was: It's Raining W123s

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well mine has 268k miles & head has never been off.
YMMV

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On Nov 26, 2016 9:02 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I've heard of several 602's with cracked heads, so they are not immune.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On November 26, 2016 7:32:02 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >602 was a time bomb?
> >I thought only the 603s cracked heads?
> >Mitch.
> >
> >> On November 26, 2016 at 9:00 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It was an easy car to drive.  No time bombs, thank you.  I wouldn’t
> >have
> >> gotten a good night’s sleep with that car around.  I would have been
> >waiting
> >> for it to grenade.
> >>
> >> I will say that if I look for a car for one of the boys in the future
> >it will
> >> be a W124 diesel.  They seem like a good compromise between more
> >modern and
> >> complex chassis’ and the efficiency of an older diesel platform.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I think I prefer the 602 over the non turbo 606 in the 124. It gets
> >better
> >> > mileage for sure. Poos should have kept that one he had.
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would, but it’s messy since it’s a spray.  That’s why I like the rubber 
cement, especially when I’m just sealing up a small portion of the barrier.

Dan


> On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> I use rubber cement to glue the moisture barrier back in place on the door 
> panels.
> 
> I use 3M spray 77.
> 
> -- Jim
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I don't pre-mix.  You want ISO-butane.  Sold as high-altitude camping
fuel.  If you could premix, I suspect you'd need to charge from the bottom
of the bottle.

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> I use rubber cement to glue the moisture barrier back in place on the door
> panels.


I use 3M spray 77.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 123 with OM603 Was: It's Raining W123s

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I've heard of several 602's with cracked heads, so they are not immune.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 26, 2016 7:32:02 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>602 was a time bomb?
>I thought only the 603s cracked heads?
>Mitch. 
>
>> On November 26, 2016 at 9:00 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It was an easy car to drive.  No time bombs, thank you.  I wouldn’t
>have
>> gotten a good night’s sleep with that car around.  I would have been
>waiting
>> for it to grenade.
>> 
>> I will say that if I look for a car for one of the boys in the future
>it will
>> be a W124 diesel.  They seem like a good compromise between more
>modern and
>> complex chassis’ and the efficiency of an older diesel platform.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> > On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > I think I prefer the 602 over the non turbo 606 in the 124. It gets
>better
>> > mileage for sure. Poos should have kept that one he had.
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Radio plays

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I went to an electronics shop back when and tried to find some antenna 
wire connectors of some sort, and I found some, but they apparently did 
not work as I can't get much signal strength.  I guess I could try to 
find some on some electronics site, or take some measurements and post 
them here and someone can suggest a solution.


--FT


On 11/26/16 7:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

The proper way is to install connectors on both ends of cable, and use the
appropriate adapter between them. You can't keep the impedance correct when
you splice and solder coax. For instance, a male connector on each piece of
wire, and a female-female connector between the two. Screwed up impedance
at a splice will lower the signal level getting to the radio.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I had to replace the antenna on my Suburban years ago, it is pretty much
impossible to snake a new antenna cable from the antenna to the radio, so I
cut the old one and tried to bodge up a connector between the 2 cable
pieces but it has never worked right.  I was thinking to finally solder the
center conductor then wrap something around it and pull the
sheathing/shielding back together and solder it or something.  Is this how
you did it?

--FT






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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] 123 with OM603 Was: It's Raining W123s

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

602 was a time bomb?
I thought only the 603s cracked heads?
Mitch. 

> On November 26, 2016 at 9:00 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> It was an easy car to drive.  No time bombs, thank you.  I wouldn’t have
> gotten a good night’s sleep with that car around.  I would have been waiting
> for it to grenade.
> 
> I will say that if I look for a car for one of the boys in the future it will
> be a W124 diesel.  They seem like a good compromise between more modern and
> complex chassis’ and the efficiency of an older diesel platform.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> > On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I think I prefer the 602 over the non turbo 606 in the 124. It gets better
> > mileage for sure. Poos should have kept that one he had.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Radio plays

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The proper way is to install connectors on both ends of cable, and use the
appropriate adapter between them. You can't keep the impedance correct when
you splice and solder coax. For instance, a male connector on each piece of
wire, and a female-female connector between the two. Screwed up impedance
at a splice will lower the signal level getting to the radio.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I had to replace the antenna on my Suburban years ago, it is pretty much
> impossible to snake a new antenna cable from the antenna to the radio, so I
> cut the old one and tried to bodge up a connector between the 2 cable
> pieces but it has never worked right.  I was thinking to finally solder the
> center conductor then wrap something around it and pull the
> sheathing/shielding back together and solder it or something.  Is this how
> you did it?
>
> --FT
>
>


-- 
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 123 with OM603 Was: It's Raining W123s

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Amen!

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OM603.961 is preferable over both.
>

-- 
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] OT M-M-M-MAx H-H-Headroom Hack

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Excellent, I was going to try to find the shows

--FT


On 11/26/16 4:41 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

--FT wrote:

https://hackaday.com/2016/11/23/retrotechtacular-max-headroom-takes-chicago-in-audacious-tv-hack/

How about the original?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k9TzWCbrUg
mao

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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] TD pharmaceutical abuser

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I read somewhere that she has some "equipment" abnormalities but I am 
not sure of the details or if it is even true.  I guess it doesn't 
matter to much of anything but I found that sorta interesting.


--FT


On 11/26/16 3:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

And her China blue  123 puts her in good company with  Dimitri  & me.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 26, 2016 1:28 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:


+1

Plus she is pretty easy on the eyes, despite some of the bizarre
costumes...


On Nov 26, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

That's really nice.  I kinda like Lady Gaga from the performer

perspective and her success (I don't know much about whatever it is she
performs, i think I have heard some songs and she seemed to do pretty well)
as she worked her tail off to get the success she has enjoyed.  Nobody gave
her anything from what I understand. And all the better she like the old
Benz.

--FT


On 11/26/16 9:13 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoP0H31WAAAD2sq.jpg

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Lady GaGa?

Wow, it just shows our good taste, doesn’t it?

Dan



On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I agree with you.  Whether we want to admit it or not, these cars are

becoming desirable.  Witness Lady GaGa in her China Blue W123 in one

of the

recent issues of Star.  I live right next to a college dorm, and I get

tons

of compliments and interest from the students on my 123 and 108.  If

you

are lucky enough to have a 123 in good shape, keep taking car of it.

Jon




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wrote:

They are worth whatever someone will pay for them - the number of new
fangled gadgets and sophistication of the drive train do not enter

into

the

equation. It's an emotional thing.

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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might

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Re: [MBZ] Bad turbo?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, Curley did.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I think Curley's probably right, they replaced a turbo to fix a non-turbo
> problem, then gave up, quit throwing money at it, and sold it to a bottom
> feeding kleb. 
> Mitch. 
>> On November 26, 2016 at 3:38 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You failed the test.
>> 
>> Unhook the crankcase vent from the intake.  Take it out on the road.  
>> When you return, then try the same test you did with the crankcase vent 
>> still unhooked.  Oil feeding into the compressor will be blown out. 
>> (GIGO) or (OIOO)
>> 
>> The oil separation in the valve covers go bad and there is apparently no 
>> fix except a new valve cover.   (cheep prastic stuff under the rivited 
>> cover.)
>> 
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> November 26, 2016 at 2:25 PM
>>> I am working on a 300sdl that runs like crap till fully warmed up and 
>>> smokes like hell until warmed up, then it does not seem to smoke as 
>>> much. I have new Bosio nozzles I was getting ready to start putting in 
>>> it as I suspect there are several bad ones so I pulled the crossover 
>>> pipe and had more oil in it that I consider normal. I started it up 
>>> and held a newspaper over the turbo outlet and revved it up enough to 
>>> spool up the turbo and ran it for about 10 seconds and got this result 
>>> you see in the photo. Oil is spraying out. Supposedly the turbo was 
>>> replaced to cure this problem but did not cure the problem. I thought 
>>> they got another bad turbo on it. I think I need to go ahead and round 
>>> up another turbo around here and swap it out.
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Re: [MBZ] Bad turbo?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I think Curley's probably right, they replaced a turbo to fix a non-turbo
problem, then gave up, quit throwing money at it, and sold it to a bottom
feeding kleb. 
Mitch. 
> On November 26, 2016 at 3:38 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> You failed the test.
> 
> Unhook the crankcase vent from the intake.  Take it out on the road.  
> When you return, then try the same test you did with the crankcase vent 
> still unhooked.  Oil feeding into the compressor will be blown out. 
> (GIGO) or (OIOO)
> 
> The oil separation in the valve covers go bad and there is apparently no 
> fix except a new valve cover.   (cheep prastic stuff under the rivited 
> cover.)
> 
> > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> > November 26, 2016 at 2:25 PM
> > I am working on a 300sdl that runs like crap till fully warmed up and 
> > smokes like hell until warmed up, then it does not seem to smoke as 
> > much. I have new Bosio nozzles I was getting ready to start putting in 
> > it as I suspect there are several bad ones so I pulled the crossover 
> > pipe and had more oil in it that I consider normal. I started it up 
> > and held a newspaper over the turbo outlet and revved it up enough to 
> > spool up the turbo and ran it for about 10 seconds and got this result 
> > you see in the photo. Oil is spraying out. Supposedly the turbo was 
> > replaced to cure this problem but did not cure the problem. I thought 
> > they got another bad turbo on it. I think I need to go ahead and round 
> > up another turbo around here and swap it out.
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

One note I forgot about in the lat post - as a data point, I use rubber cement 
to glue the moisture barrier back in place on the door panels.  It’s cheap, 
simple, and holds the plastic in place while allowing you to remove it without 
damage in the future if necessary.

Got the carpets back in and the rear seat bottom cushion installed after all 
got a good cleaning.  Now I can put my brand new MB carpeted floor mats in the 
car, although I really hate to as I don’t want them to get dirty.  I’ll see if 
there’s any ScotchGard around the house I can hit them with first.  I think 
they stopped selling the stuff, but I seem to recall seeing a can on the shelf 
somewhere around the house...

Did the Diesel Purge with a filter change.  Ran it out of an old RedLine Diesel 
Catalyst bottle I had with a couple of pieces of clear hose, which worked 
great.  I’ll have to drive it later tonight to run an errand, so it will be 
interesting to see if there is a noticeable difference in performance or 
running.  It’s been a long time since I’ve used Diesel Purge, so I’m not quite 
sure what to expect.

The Continental radio showed up this afternoon.  I’m going to hold off 
installing it in the W126 and maybe put it in the W123 for a bit. I need to 
check the speakers in the W123 as well - I think they’re the originals, so they 
are probably pretty far gone.  They all work, but the range is pretty limited.  
Part of that could be the Becker Europa that’s in it, too.

Calling it quits for the day on the car.  I might take on the engine mounts 
tomorrow, I’ll decide in the morning.  Transmission filter kit came today, too, 
but I’ll hold off on that until I get the spring kits for the valve body.

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Re: [MBZ] OT M-M-M-MAx H-H-Headroom Hack

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--FT wrote:
> https://hackaday.com/2016/11/23/retrotechtacular-max-headroom-takes-chicago-in-audacious-tv-hack/

How about the original?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k9TzWCbrUg
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Bad turbo?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I pulled the crank vent hose off and ran it for a while in the shop clearing it 
out and repeated the test. I did not get very much oil if any at all that time. 
I tested holding a paper over the vent hose and did not really get any oil out 
of there either. I hooked the hose back up and did not get any oil again so 
maybe it takes a while. 

If this is the case I should swap valve covers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You failed the test.
> 
> Unhook the crankcase vent from the intake.  Take it out on the road.  When 
> you return, then try the same test you did with the crankcase vent still 
> unhooked.  Oil feeding into the compressor will be blown out. (GIGO) or 
> (OIOO)
> 
> The oil separation in the valve covers go bad and there is apparently no fix 
> except a new valve cover.   (cheep prastic stuff under the rivited cover.)
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> November 26, 2016 at 2:25 PM
>> I am working on a 300sdl that runs like crap till fully warmed up and smokes 
>> like hell until warmed up, then it does not seem to smoke as much. I have 
>> new Bosio nozzles I was getting ready to start putting in it as I suspect 
>> there are several bad ones so I pulled the crossover pipe and had more oil 
>> in it that I consider normal. I started it up and held a newspaper over the 
>> turbo outlet and revved it up enough to spool up the turbo and ran it for 
>> about 10 seconds and got this result you see in the photo. Oil is spraying 
>> out. Supposedly the turbo was replaced to cure this problem but did not cure 
>> the problem. I thought they got another bad turbo on it. I think I need to 
>> go ahead and round up another turbo around here and swap it out.
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Re: [MBZ] Bad turbo?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You failed the test.

Unhook the crankcase vent from the intake.  Take it out on the road.  
When you return, then try the same test you did with the crankcase vent 
still unhooked.  Oil feeding into the compressor will be blown out. 
(GIGO) or (OIOO)


The oil separation in the valve covers go bad and there is apparently no 
fix except a new valve cover.   (cheep prastic stuff under the rivited 
cover.)



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 26, 2016 at 2:25 PM
I am working on a 300sdl that runs like crap till fully warmed up and 
smokes like hell until warmed up, then it does not seem to smoke as 
much. I have new Bosio nozzles I was getting ready to start putting in 
it as I suspect there are several bad ones so I pulled the crossover 
pipe and had more oil in it that I consider normal. I started it up 
and held a newspaper over the turbo outlet and revved it up enough to 
spool up the turbo and ran it for about 10 seconds and got this result 
you see in the photo. Oil is spraying out. Supposedly the turbo was 
replaced to cure this problem but did not cure the problem. I thought 
they got another bad turbo on it. I think I need to go ahead and round 
up another turbo around here and swap it out.


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Re: [MBZ] TD pharmaceutical abuser

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

And her China blue  123 puts her in good company with  Dimitri  & me.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 26, 2016 1:28 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> +1
>
> Plus she is pretty easy on the eyes, despite some of the bizarre
> costumes...
>
> > On Nov 26, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's really nice.  I kinda like Lady Gaga from the performer
> perspective and her success (I don't know much about whatever it is she
> performs, i think I have heard some songs and she seemed to do pretty well)
> as she worked her tail off to get the success she has enjoyed.  Nobody gave
> her anything from what I understand. And all the better she like the old
> Benz.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 11/26/16 9:13 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoP0H31WAAAD2sq.jpg
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lady GaGa?
> >>>
> >>> Wow, it just shows our good taste, doesn’t it?
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  I agree with you.  Whether we want to admit it or not, these cars are
> >>> becoming desirable.  Witness Lady GaGa in her China Blue W123 in one
> of the
> >>> recent issues of Star.  I live right next to a college dorm, and I get
> tons
> >>> of compliments and interest from the students on my 123 and 108.  If
> you
> >>> are lucky enough to have a 123 in good shape, keep taking car of it.
>  Jon
> 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 25, 2016, at 7:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> wrote:
> > They are worth whatever someone will pay for them - the number of new
> > fangled gadgets and sophistication of the drive train do not enter
> into
> >>> the
> > equation. It's an emotional thing.
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Took the car out today for some errands.  It’s such a nice ride and is 
amazingly quick.  I still need to resolve the stacked 2-3 shift so I’ll be 
ordering the B1 and B2 spring kits this week, as I have a filter coming on 
Monday along with some ATF.

Pulled the carpets and scrubbed them. Fortunately, they’re in really good shape 
with minimal wear or dirt.  No surprises underneath any of them, other than the 
handful of change I always seem to find when I clean out a car.  I’m still 
wondering when I’m going to find the car that has a couple of stacks of $100s 
under the back seat…nothing there but $0.52 in change.  Not even a Cheeto. Darn.

Opened up the right rear door to replace the leaking lock actuator.  Door 
interior has never been opened based on the condition of the moisture barrier.  
Cleaned the door panel and armrest with 303, polished all the chrome and 
anodized bits with some rubbing compound.  Tested the actuator and I now have 
locking and unlocking on the door.

Opened up the left rear door to deal with the door check.

I gave the old door check the college try, but couldn’t recover it.  The “cup” 
on the end of the spring and ball cylinder was cracked and even missing some 
little bits on one end, preventing the ball on that end from remaining captive. 
 I tried putting it all back together after cleaning and regreasing, but it 
wouldn’t hold up.  So I got out the new URO door check, greased it heavily and 
installed it.  Works fine, I couldn’t really tell any difference in 
construction from the original one.  Of course I’m sure the quality of the 
metal isn’t as good, but functionally it seems OK.

Cleaned the door bits up as I did on the other and reassembled.  Door opens and 
holds just fine.

Break time to assist with some holiday decoration, then I’ll be heading back 
out to do a Diesel Purge and install a new filter and cigar hose.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 126 fuel sender

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Once the seat back is out, you’ll see the big plastic plug that covers the 
opening where it’s located.

Don’t forget to take your time removing it from the tank or you’ll get a shower.

Dan

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rear seat.  Its  on the driver side, under the tray on the shelf.  To get the 
> tray out, you have to pull the seat back.
> 
> reclining seat is self explanatory,  Pull the bottom, look for 10mm bolts.  
> The reclining seat has a couple of extra bolts for the recline mechanism.
> 
> It is pretty easy.
> 
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> November 26, 2016 at 10:42 AM
>> I recently removed the fuel sender in my 140 to clean it up as it was stuck 
>> which was easy as all you need to do is remove the back trunk liner panel 
>> and its right there.  I need to do the same job on a 126 but I am thinking 
>> it is under the rear shelf.  So, does the rear shelf have to come out?  If 
>> so, does the rear seat have to come out?  I have removed hundreds of regular 
>> 126 rear seats but I do not recall if I have ever removed one with the 
>> reclining rear seat, which this car has.  How do you remove those?  Is there 
>> a way to get it out without removing a bunch of crap?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] TD pharmaceutical abuser

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

+1

Plus she is pretty easy on the eyes, despite some of the bizarre costumes...

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's really nice.  I kinda like Lady Gaga from the performer perspective 
> and her success (I don't know much about whatever it is she performs, i think 
> I have heard some songs and she seemed to do pretty well) as she worked her 
> tail off to get the success she has enjoyed.  Nobody gave her anything from 
> what I understand. And all the better she like the old Benz.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 11/26/16 9:13 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoP0H31WAAAD2sq.jpg
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Lady GaGa?
>>> 
>>> Wow, it just shows our good taste, doesn’t it?
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 I agree with you.  Whether we want to admit it or not, these cars are
>>> becoming desirable.  Witness Lady GaGa in her China Blue W123 in one of the
>>> recent issues of Star.  I live right next to a college dorm, and I get tons
>>> of compliments and interest from the students on my 123 and 108.  If you
>>> are lucky enough to have a 123 in good shape, keep taking car of it.
 Jon
 
 
 
> On Nov 25, 2016, at 7:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
> They are worth whatever someone will pay for them - the number of new
> fangled gadgets and sophistication of the drive train do not enter into
>>> the
> equation. It's an emotional thing.
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Re: [MBZ] 126 fuel sender

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Rear seat.  Its  on the driver side, under the tray on the shelf.  To 
get the tray out, you have to pull the seat back.


reclining seat is self explanatory,  Pull the bottom, look for 10mm 
bolts.  The reclining seat has a couple of extra bolts for the recline 
mechanism.


It is pretty easy.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 26, 2016 at 10:42 AM
I recently removed the fuel sender in my 140 to clean it up as it was 
stuck which was easy as all you need to do is remove the back trunk 
liner panel and its right there.  I need to do the same job on a 126 
but I am thinking it is under the rear shelf.  So, does the rear shelf 
have to come out?  If so, does the rear seat have to come out?  I have 
removed hundreds of regular 126 rear seats but I do not recall if I 
have ever removed one with the reclining rear seat, which this car 
has.  How do you remove those?  Is there a way to get it out without 
removing a bunch of crap?




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[MBZ] 126 fuel sender

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I recently removed the fuel sender in my 140 to clean it up as it was 
stuck which was easy as all you need to do is remove the back trunk 
liner panel and its right there.  I need to do the same job on a 126 but 
I am thinking it is under the rear shelf.  So, does the rear shelf have 
to come out?  If so, does the rear seat have to come out?  I have 
removed hundreds of regular 126 rear seats but I do not recall if I have 
ever removed one with the reclining rear seat, which this car has.  How 
do you remove those?  Is there a way to get it out without removing a 
bunch of crap?


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Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

that is my guess.  I don't know if you could safely pump it in with a 
vac pump.  I'd guess you could pump it in with an old refrigerator 
compressor with refrig valves soldered on.  Jim is the guru of test 
refrig.  Maybe he'll tell us.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
November 26, 2016 at 10:28 AM
How would it work?  Would the pressures allow the butane to flash into 
the propane tank, or to run in as a liquid?  Start off with an empty 
propane tank then get the butane in there, then add the proper amount 
of propane?


--FT (no gas tables at hand at the moment)






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Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The better camping gas has iso-butane in it. 
Butane is a bit low in the vapor pressure department for diluting propane
refrigerant. It doesn't even make decent lighter fuel in cold weather unless you
carry it in a warm pocket. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

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How would it work?  Would the pressures allow the butane to flash into 
the propane tank, or to run in as a liquid?  Start off with an empty 
propane tank then get the butane in there, then add the proper amount of 
propane?


--FT (no gas tables at hand at the moment)


On 11/26/16 11:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:


In a Korean food store yesterday, I came across a 3 pack of large 
butane cans (16-20 oz) for $7.99


A better source of butane.

Is it practical to premix butane and propane in a 20 lb propane 
bottle?  That would be an easier way to use the test refrigerant.



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Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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[MBZ] Test Refrigerant

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

In a Korean food store yesterday, I came across a 3 pack of large butane 
cans (16-20 oz) for $7.99


A better source of butane.

Is it practical to premix butane and propane in a 20 lb propane bottle?  
That would be an easier way to use the test refrigerant.



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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1   You can't un-see looking at the witch.  Even a pottery one with 
plants growing out of it,



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
November 26, 2016 at 9:24 AM
Not falling for it, not clicking
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 26, 2016 at 7:53 AM
t.com/ip/Chia-Hillary-Clinton/



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[MBZ] OT M-M-M-MAx H-H-Headroom Hack

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https://hackaday.com/2016/11/23/retrotechtacular-max-headroom-takes-chicago-in-audacious-tv-hack/


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Re: [MBZ] I am speechless

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I did like that big 8x8 truck, that could be the basis for a fun 
RV/carhauler/toyhauler.


--FT


On 11/26/16 10:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

It's ten years old, isn't it?
Mitch.

On November 26, 2016 at 10:04 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


http://oppositelock.kinja.com/oh-my-gob-mercedes-why-1789379798

This must be something prepared for a corporate retreat.

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[MBZ] FWIW

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I'll be on "no emails" but remain on the list for an unknown length of time.
Anyone wanting to contact me can use the following:
 
arche...@embarqmail.com

Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] I am speechless

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

It's ten years old, isn't it?
Mitch.
> On November 26, 2016 at 10:04 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> http://oppositelock.kinja.com/oh-my-gob-mercedes-why-1789379798
> 
> This must be something prepared for a corporate retreat.
> 
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> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the
> enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Not falling for it, not clicking
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 26, 2016 8:53:38 AM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>https://www.walmart.com/ip/Chia-Hillary-Clinton/54305265?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=228047143000&wl0=&wl1=s&wl2=m&wl3=119942740329&wl4=pla-258032591268&wl5=1020618&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=54305265&wl13=&veh=sem
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Re: [MBZ] I am speechless

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

and sent to the stealers


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
November 26, 2016 at 9:04 AM
http://oppositelock.kinja.com/oh-my-gob-mercedes-why-1789379798

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[MBZ] I am speechless

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/oh-my-gob-mercedes-why-1789379798

This must be something prepared for a corporate retreat.

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Re: [MBZ] TD pharmaceutical abuser

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's really nice.  I kinda like Lady Gaga from the performer 
perspective and her success (I don't know much about whatever it is she 
performs, i think I have heard some songs and she seemed to do pretty 
well) as she worked her tail off to get the success she has enjoyed.  
Nobody gave her anything from what I understand. And all the better she 
like the old Benz.


--FT


On 11/26/16 9:13 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoP0H31WAAAD2sq.jpg

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Lady GaGa?

Wow, it just shows our good taste, doesn’t it?

Dan



On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I agree with you.  Whether we want to admit it or not, these cars are

becoming desirable.  Witness Lady GaGa in her China Blue W123 in one of the
recent issues of Star.  I live right next to a college dorm, and I get tons
of compliments and interest from the students on my 123 and 108.  If you
are lucky enough to have a 123 in good shape, keep taking car of it.

Jon




On Nov 25, 2016, at 7:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 

wrote:

They are worth whatever someone will pay for them - the number of new
fangled gadgets and sophistication of the drive train do not enter into

the

equation. It's an emotional thing.

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Re: [MBZ] needs much repair 82 380SEL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Who is it, did you get a name?

--FT


On 11/25/16 11:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
He is a good ol boy.  Ran what we'd call a meat locker.  Sold it. 
retired.  Got started selling pigs for bbq.  Now sells roasting pigs, 
bbQ pork, and rents the BBQ rigs for the pigs.  He's probably 70 or so.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
November 25, 2016 at 6:50 PM
Well let me know, I don't think he is far away

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Re: [MBZ] Radio plays

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I had to replace the antenna on my Suburban years ago, it is pretty much 
impossible to snake a new antenna cable from the antenna to the radio, 
so I cut the old one and tried to bodge up a connector between the 2 
cable pieces but it has never worked right.  I was thinking to finally 
solder the center conductor then wrap something around it and pull the 
sheathing/shielding back together and solder it or something.  Is this 
how you did it?


--FT


On 11/25/16 10:59 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

  Original Coax was cut and spliced with some odd thing before but that had 
failed as well.  Today I dug into both sides of the coax, the car end and the 
antenna hook up side.  Both had extensive weathering.  Bit of nibbling back to 
clean copper and pulled back the shielding, then mated the two.  That should 
increase reception.


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Re: [MBZ] a good point a to b car $2500

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>
> BTW, you should look up and read the 11th amendment.


I think he meant the eleventh _commandment_.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] TD pharmaceutical abuser

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoP0H31WAAAD2sq.jpg

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Lady GaGa?
>
> Wow, it just shows our good taste, doesn’t it?
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with you.  Whether we want to admit it or not, these cars are
> becoming desirable.  Witness Lady GaGa in her China Blue W123 in one of the
> recent issues of Star.  I live right next to a college dorm, and I get tons
> of compliments and interest from the students on my 123 and 108.  If you
> are lucky enough to have a 123 in good shape, keep taking car of it.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 25, 2016, at 7:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> They are worth whatever someone will pay for them - the number of new
> >> fangled gadgets and sophistication of the drive train do not enter into
> the
> >> equation. It's an emotional thing.
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Re: [MBZ] TD pharmaceutical abuser

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Lady GaGa?

Wow, it just shows our good taste, doesn’t it?

Dan


> On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with you.  Whether we want to admit it or not, these cars are 
> becoming desirable.  Witness Lady GaGa in her China Blue W123 in one of the 
> recent issues of Star.  I live right next to a college dorm, and I get tons 
> of compliments and interest from the students on my 123 and 108.  If you are 
> lucky enough to have a 123 in good shape, keep taking car of it.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2016, at 7:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> They are worth whatever someone will pay for them - the number of new
>> fangled gadgets and sophistication of the drive train do not enter into the
>> equation. It's an emotional thing.
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Re: [MBZ] 123 with OM603 Was: It's Raining W123s

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

OM603.961 is preferable over both.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 26, 2016 at 7:54 AM
I think I prefer the 602 over the non turbo 606 in the 124. It gets 
better mileage for sure. Poos should have kept that one he had.


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Re: [MBZ] 123 with OM603 Was: It's Raining W123s

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It was an easy car to drive.  No time bombs, thank you.  I wouldn’t have gotten 
a good night’s sleep with that car around.  I would have been waiting for it to 
grenade.

I will say that if I look for a car for one of the boys in the future it will 
be a W124 diesel.  They seem like a good compromise between more modern and 
complex chassis’ and the efficiency of an older diesel platform.

Dan


> On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I prefer the 602 over the non turbo 606 in the 124. It gets better 
> mileage for sure. Poos should have kept that one he had.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] TD pharmaceutical abuser

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

I agree with you.  Whether we want to admit it or not, these cars are becoming 
desirable.  Witness Lady GaGa in her China Blue W123 in one of the recent 
issues of Star.  I live right next to a college dorm, and I get tons of 
compliments and interest from the students on my 123 and 108.  If you are lucky 
enough to have a 123 in good shape, keep taking car of it.

Jon



> On Nov 25, 2016, at 7:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They are worth whatever someone will pay for them - the number of new
> fangled gadgets and sophistication of the drive train do not enter into the
> equation. It's an emotional thing.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 with OM603 Was: It's Raining W123s

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I think I prefer the 602 over the non turbo 606 in the 124. It gets better 
mileage for sure. Poos should have kept that one he had.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree Curt. The 602 is an awesome engine.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4 matic
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Nov 25, 2016 5:24 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Even a 602 produces the same power as a 617, starts easier in the winter,
>> uses less fuel and is so much more refined.
>> I was talking with a guy about an early Blazer with a dead engine and
>> thinking a 602 turned up a little might make a nice transplant...
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>  On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone seen an OM603 in a 123?  have the crazy Finns done it?  That
>> 240D in need of an engine is interesting, but I don't have a spare
>> OM616/617.  A 240D 3.0 is much more desirable than a 123 300D (US).  A
>> 240D 3.0 with an OM603 is in some ways theoretically better than with an
>> OM617.  I have spare OM603, no spare 616 without overhaul, and no 617
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

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> On Nov 26, 2016, at 4:52 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Remember when those came out for Barack Hussein, and the politically correct 
> cried racism?
> 
> So glad that was not a picture of Hillary...
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On November 25, 2016 11:45:11 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 with OM603 Was: It's Raining W123s

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I agree Curt. The 602 is an awesome engine.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 25, 2016 5:24 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Even a 602 produces the same power as a 617, starts easier in the winter,
> uses less fuel and is so much more refined.
> I was talking with a guy about an early Blazer with a dead engine and
> thinking a 602 turned up a little might make a nice transplant...
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Has anyone seen an OM603 in a 123?  have the crazy Finns done it?  That
> 240D in need of an engine is interesting, but I don't have a spare
> OM616/617.  A 240D 3.0 is much more desirable than a 123 300D (US).  A
> 240D 3.0 with an OM603 is in some ways theoretically better than with an
> OM617.  I have spare OM603, no spare 616 without overhaul, and no 617
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Wilton - good to hear from you.

It’s worth at least $7500 now, Andrew.

Dan

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll give you $501 for that old car.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes > wrote:
> 
>> Yep, another masterpiece.  ATTABOY!
>> 
>> Wilt
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They don’t have the hair right.  They need chia with longer stems so it can be 
combed over, and it needs to be thinner.

Dan

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Max, a transplant candidate

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Nope, nottawagon. Keep looking!

Really need to get the cabriolet into my garage, get that running.  After 
finishing up the 300D remains, of course...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 25, 2016 11:48:39 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5874297379.html
>
>
>1993 Mercedes 300 E 2.8 - $900(Awendaw SC)
>
>166,000 miles. Runs great but I'm having a problem with a sensor
>causing 
>issues when cranking and idling.
>
>-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Remember when those came out for Barack Hussein, and the politically correct 
cried racism?

So glad that was not a picture of Hillary...
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 25, 2016 11:45:11 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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