Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[clay via Mercedes]

I was reading a book by Janet Asimov.  She posited that teleportation was 
doable, but it required a receiver be transported to the end of the line.  In 
effect that would be the transportation of that entangled particle to the place 
you want to go.  





> On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:17 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It would. Why don't you ask him how soon he thinks we will be 
> teletransporting people to another planet? Problem I've had trying to talk to 
> physicists is that they can't seem to carry on a conversation without quoting 
> complex math.
> Gerry
> 
> Curley McLain wrote:
>> Interesting!
>> 
>> One of my friends from college is a high level physicist at Stanford.  
>> It would be fun to talk about this!
>> 
>>> archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>> January 29, 2017 at 11:33 PM
>>> Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; 
>>> as well as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it:
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time
>>> 
>>> In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share 
>>> a single fate, even when they’re miles apart.
>>> 
>>> Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky 
>>> effect, called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.
>>> 
>>> If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in 
>>> quantum computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the 
>>> universe.
>>> 
>>> “You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing 
>>> the middle time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s 
>>> University of Queensland, lead author of the new study.
>>> 
>>> In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) 
>>> are so intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, 
>>> momentum and a host of other variables — between them. One particle 
>>> always “knows” what the other is doing. Make a measurement on one 
>>> member of an entangled pair, and the other changes immediately.
>>> 
>>> Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt 
>>> messages in uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. 
>>> Entanglement can also help transmit encyclopedias’ worth of 
>>> information from one place to another using only a few atoms, a 
>>> protocol called quantum teleportation.
>>> 
>>> In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson 
>>> and Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how 
>>> these same tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to 
>>> place, but from the past to the future.
>>> 
>>> The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are 
>>> intuitive: If it’s impossible to describe one particle without 
>>> including the other, this logically extends to time as well as space.
>>> 
>>> “If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum 
>>> message] moves in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” 
>>> Olson said. “There really is no difference mathematically. Whatever 
>>> you can do with ordinary entanglement, you should be able to do with 
>>> timelike entanglement.”
>>> 
>>> Olson explained them with a Star Trek analogy. In one episode, “beam 
>>> me up” teleportation expert Scotty is stranded on a distant planet 
>>> with limited air supply. To survive, Scotty freezes himself in the 
>>> transporter, awaiting rescue. When the Enterprise arrives decades 
>>> later, Scotty steps out of the machine without having aged a day.
>>> 
>>> “It’s not time travel as you would ordinarily think of it, where it’s 
>>> like, poof! You’re in the future,” Olson said. “But you get to skip 
>>> the intervening time.”
>>> 
>>> According to quantum physicist Ivette Fuentes of the University of 
>>> Nottingham, who saw Olson and Ralph present the work at a conference, 
>>> it’s “one of the most interesting results” published in the last year.
>>> 
>>> “It stimulated our imaginations,” said Fuentes. “We know entanglement 
>>> is a resource and we can do very interesting things with it, like 
>>> quantum teleportation and quantum cryptography. We might be able to 
>>> exploit this new entanglement to do interesting things.”
>>> 
>>> One such interesting thing could involve storing information in black 
>>> holes, said physicist Jorma Louko, also of the University of Nottingham.
>>> 
>>> “They show that you can use the vacuum, that no-particle state, to 
>>> store a lot of information in just a couple of atoms, and recover that 
>>> info from other atoms later on,” Louko said. “The details of that have 
>>> not been worked out, but I can foresee that the ideas that these 
>>> authors use could be adapted to the black hole context.”
>>> 
>>> Entanglement in time could also be used to investigate as-yet-untested 
>>> fundamentals of 

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[clay via Mercedes]

I know that Next Gen episode.  Scotty is trapped in a Dyson Sphere.

So, as it relates to my conundrum, it would not be like Kirk and Spock going 
back to save the Whales, or Picard and NCC 1701 E going back to save Zephram 
Cochran from the Borg.I would have to be entangled on a quantum level to 
teleport to anyplace.  I and the SDL would go POOF! in a manner that deletes 
the original and recreates it in the new location?Does this also satisfy 
the conservation of energy?  I am not really creating or destroying anything.  
It just works?  God is not rolling the dice with the universe?

If I am going to have to deal with wizards or aliens and their comings and 
goings, they are just as likely to be using the flue network as they are to be 
moving backward and returning along the timeline?  That must mean that the cost 
to go next door is much the same as it would be for me to get in the SDL and 
zip back to 1986.  Does the effect…?  Well, it must, if going down the street 
is the same as moving 30 years, I can just show up with the SDL in Dallas in 
1986 as I am to run into Marty McFly in his Delorean at prom with his parents.


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:33 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; as well 
> as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it:
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time
> 
> In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share a 
> single fate, even when they’re miles apart. 
> 
> Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky effect, 
> called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.
> 
> If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in quantum 
> computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the universe.
> 
> “You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing the 
> middle time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s University 
> of Queensland, lead author of the new study.
> 
> In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) are so 
> intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, momentum and a 
> host of other variables — between them. One particle always “knows” what the 
> other is doing. Make a measurement on one member of an entangled pair, and 
> the other changes immediately.
> 
> Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt messages in 
> uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. Entanglement can also help 
> transmit encyclopedias’ worth of information from one place to another using 
> only a few atoms, a protocol called quantum teleportation.
> 
> In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson and 
> Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how these same 
> tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to place, but from the 
> past to the future.
> 
> The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are 
> intuitive: If it’s impossible to describe one particle without including the 
> other, this logically extends to time as well as space.
> 
> “If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum message] 
> moves in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” Olson said. 
> “There really is no difference mathematically. Whatever you can do with 
> ordinary entanglement, you should be able to do with timelike entanglement.”
> 
> Olson explained them with a Star Trek analogy. In one episode, “beam me up” 
> teleportation expert Scotty is stranded on a distant planet with limited air 
> supply. To survive, Scotty freezes himself in the transporter, awaiting 
> rescue. When the Enterprise arrives decades later, Scotty steps out of the 
> machine without having aged a day.
> 
> “It’s not time travel as you would ordinarily think of it, where it’s like, 
> poof! You’re in the future,” Olson said. “But you get to skip the intervening 
> time.”
> 
> According to quantum physicist Ivette Fuentes of the University of 
> Nottingham, who saw Olson and Ralph present the work at a conference, it’s 
> “one of the most interesting results” published in the last year.
> 
> “It stimulated our imaginations,” said Fuentes. “We know entanglement is a 
> resource and we can do very interesting things with it, like quantum 
> teleportation and quantum cryptography. We might be able to exploit this new 
> entanglement to do interesting things.”
> 
> One such interesting thing could involve storing information in black holes, 
> said physicist Jorma Louko, also of the University of Nottingham.
> 
> “They show that you can use the vacuum, that no-particle state, to store a 
> lot of information in just a couple of atoms, and recover that info from 
> other atoms later on,” Louko said. “The details of that have not been worked 
> out, but I can foresee that 

[MBZ] Another nail in the WVO Coffin

[clay via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyFXUYN_1QU=youtu.be

This is why there are so few working Diesels on the roads anymore




clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yes, ditto.  Last time I asked about something the reply was "you 
wouldn't understand." I wanted to say, "Well, then, you don't 
explain well."  But I didn't...



archer75--- via Mercedes 
January 30, 2017 at 12:17 AM
It would. Why don't you ask him how soon he thinks we will be 
teletransporting people to another planet? Problem I've had trying to 
talk to physicists is that they can't seem to carry on a conversation 
without quoting complex math.

Gerry



Curley McLain 
January 30, 2017 at 12:00 AM
Interesting!

One of my friends from college is a high level physicist at Stanford.  
It would be fun to talk about this!





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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

It would. Why don't you ask him how soon he thinks we will be teletransporting 
people to another planet? Problem I've had trying to talk to physicists is that 
they can't seem to carry on a conversation without quoting complex math.
Gerry

Curley McLain wrote:
> Interesting!
> 
> One of my friends from college is a high level physicist at Stanford.  
> It would be fun to talk about this!
> 
> > archer75--- via Mercedes 
> > January 29, 2017 at 11:33 PM
> > Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; 
> > as well as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it:
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time
> >
> > In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share 
> > a single fate, even when they’re miles apart.
> >
> > Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky 
> > effect, called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.
> >
> > If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in 
> > quantum computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the 
> > universe.
> >
> > “You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing 
> > the middle time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s 
> > University of Queensland, lead author of the new study.
> >
> > In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) 
> > are so intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, 
> > momentum and a host of other variables — between them. One particle 
> > always “knows” what the other is doing. Make a measurement on one 
> > member of an entangled pair, and the other changes immediately.
> >
> > Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt 
> > messages in uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. 
> > Entanglement can also help transmit encyclopedias’ worth of 
> > information from one place to another using only a few atoms, a 
> > protocol called quantum teleportation.
> >
> > In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson 
> > and Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how 
> > these same tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to 
> > place, but from the past to the future.
> >
> > The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are 
> > intuitive: If it’s impossible to describe one particle without 
> > including the other, this logically extends to time as well as space.
> >
> > “If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum 
> > message] moves in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” 
> > Olson said. “There really is no difference mathematically. Whatever 
> > you can do with ordinary entanglement, you should be able to do with 
> > timelike entanglement.”
> >
> > Olson explained them with a Star Trek analogy. In one episode, “beam 
> > me up” teleportation expert Scotty is stranded on a distant planet 
> > with limited air supply. To survive, Scotty freezes himself in the 
> > transporter, awaiting rescue. When the Enterprise arrives decades 
> > later, Scotty steps out of the machine without having aged a day.
> >
> > “It’s not time travel as you would ordinarily think of it, where it’s 
> > like, poof! You’re in the future,” Olson said. “But you get to skip 
> > the intervening time.”
> >
> > According to quantum physicist Ivette Fuentes of the University of 
> > Nottingham, who saw Olson and Ralph present the work at a conference, 
> > it’s “one of the most interesting results” published in the last year.
> >
> > “It stimulated our imaginations,” said Fuentes. “We know entanglement 
> > is a resource and we can do very interesting things with it, like 
> > quantum teleportation and quantum cryptography. We might be able to 
> > exploit this new entanglement to do interesting things.”
> >
> > One such interesting thing could involve storing information in black 
> > holes, said physicist Jorma Louko, also of the University of Nottingham.
> >
> > “They show that you can use the vacuum, that no-particle state, to 
> > store a lot of information in just a couple of atoms, and recover that 
> > info from other atoms later on,” Louko said. “The details of that have 
> > not been worked out, but I can foresee that the ideas that these 
> > authors use could be adapted to the black hole context.”
> >
> > Entanglement in time could also be used to investigate as-yet-untested 
> > fundamentals of particle physics. In the 1970s, physicist Bill Unruh 
> > predicted that, if a spaceship accelerates through the empty space of 
> > a vacuum, particles should appear to pop out of the void. Particles 
> > carry energy, so they would be, in effect, a warm bath. Wave a 
> > thermometer outside, and it would record a positive temperature.
> >
> > Called the Unruh effect, this is a solid 

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Interesting!

One of my friends from college is a high level physicist at Stanford.  
It would be fun to talk about this!



archer75--- via Mercedes 
January 29, 2017 at 11:33 PM
Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; 
as well as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time

In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share 
a single fate, even when they’re miles apart.


Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky 
effect, called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.


If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in 
quantum computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the 
universe.


“You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing 
the middle time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s 
University of Queensland, lead author of the new study.


In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) 
are so intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, 
momentum and a host of other variables — between them. One particle 
always “knows” what the other is doing. Make a measurement on one 
member of an entangled pair, and the other changes immediately.


Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt 
messages in uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. 
Entanglement can also help transmit encyclopedias’ worth of 
information from one place to another using only a few atoms, a 
protocol called quantum teleportation.


In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson 
and Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how 
these same tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to 
place, but from the past to the future.


The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are 
intuitive: If it’s impossible to describe one particle without 
including the other, this logically extends to time as well as space.


“If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum 
message] moves in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” 
Olson said. “There really is no difference mathematically. Whatever 
you can do with ordinary entanglement, you should be able to do with 
timelike entanglement.”


Olson explained them with a Star Trek analogy. In one episode, “beam 
me up” teleportation expert Scotty is stranded on a distant planet 
with limited air supply. To survive, Scotty freezes himself in the 
transporter, awaiting rescue. When the Enterprise arrives decades 
later, Scotty steps out of the machine without having aged a day.


“It’s not time travel as you would ordinarily think of it, where it’s 
like, poof! You’re in the future,” Olson said. “But you get to skip 
the intervening time.”


According to quantum physicist Ivette Fuentes of the University of 
Nottingham, who saw Olson and Ralph present the work at a conference, 
it’s “one of the most interesting results” published in the last year.


“It stimulated our imaginations,” said Fuentes. “We know entanglement 
is a resource and we can do very interesting things with it, like 
quantum teleportation and quantum cryptography. We might be able to 
exploit this new entanglement to do interesting things.”


One such interesting thing could involve storing information in black 
holes, said physicist Jorma Louko, also of the University of Nottingham.


“They show that you can use the vacuum, that no-particle state, to 
store a lot of information in just a couple of atoms, and recover that 
info from other atoms later on,” Louko said. “The details of that have 
not been worked out, but I can foresee that the ideas that these 
authors use could be adapted to the black hole context.”


Entanglement in time could also be used to investigate as-yet-untested 
fundamentals of particle physics. In the 1970s, physicist Bill Unruh 
predicted that, if a spaceship accelerates through the empty space of 
a vacuum, particles should appear to pop out of the void. Particles 
carry energy, so they would be, in effect, a warm bath. Wave a 
thermometer outside, and it would record a positive temperature.


Called the Unruh effect, this is a solid prediction of quantum field 
theory. It’s never been observed, however, as a spaceship would have 
to accelerate at as-yet-unrealistic speeds to generate an effect large 
enough to be testable. But because timelike entanglement also involves 
particles emerging from vacuums, it could be used to conduct more 
convenient searches, relying on time rather than space.


Finding the Unruh effect would provide support for quantum field 
theory. But it might be even more exciting not to see the effect, 
Olson said.


“It would be more of a shocking result,” Olson said. “If you didn’t 
see it, something would be very wrong 

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; as well 
as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time

In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share a single 
fate, even when they’re miles apart. 

Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky effect, 
called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.

If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in quantum 
computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the universe.

“You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing the middle 
time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s University of 
Queensland, lead author of the new study.

In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) are so 
intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, momentum and a host 
of other variables — between them. One particle always “knows” what the other 
is doing. Make a measurement on one member of an entangled pair, and the other 
changes immediately.

Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt messages in 
uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. Entanglement can also help 
transmit encyclopedias’ worth of information from one place to another using 
only a few atoms, a protocol called quantum teleportation.

In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson and 
Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how these same 
tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to place, but from the 
past to the future.

The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are intuitive: 
If it’s impossible to describe one particle without including the other, this 
logically extends to time as well as space.

“If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum message] moves 
in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” Olson said. “There 
really is no difference mathematically. Whatever you can do with ordinary 
entanglement, you should be able to do with timelike entanglement.”

Olson explained them with a Star Trek analogy. In one episode, “beam me up” 
teleportation expert Scotty is stranded on a distant planet with limited air 
supply. To survive, Scotty freezes himself in the transporter, awaiting rescue. 
When the Enterprise arrives decades later, Scotty steps out of the machine 
without having aged a day.

“It’s not time travel as you would ordinarily think of it, where it’s like, 
poof! You’re in the future,” Olson said. “But you get to skip the intervening 
time.”

According to quantum physicist Ivette Fuentes of the University of Nottingham, 
who saw Olson and Ralph present the work at a conference, it’s “one of the most 
interesting results” published in the last year.

“It stimulated our imaginations,” said Fuentes. “We know entanglement is a 
resource and we can do very interesting things with it, like quantum 
teleportation and quantum cryptography. We might be able to exploit this new 
entanglement to do interesting things.”

One such interesting thing could involve storing information in black holes, 
said physicist Jorma Louko, also of the University of Nottingham.

“They show that you can use the vacuum, that no-particle state, to store a lot 
of information in just a couple of atoms, and recover that info from other 
atoms later on,” Louko said. “The details of that have not been worked out, but 
I can foresee that the ideas that these authors use could be adapted to the 
black hole context.”

Entanglement in time could also be used to investigate as-yet-untested 
fundamentals of particle physics. In the 1970s, physicist Bill Unruh predicted 
that, if a spaceship accelerates through the empty space of a vacuum, particles 
should appear to pop out of the void. Particles carry energy, so they would be, 
in effect, a warm bath. Wave a thermometer outside, and it would record a 
positive temperature.

Called the Unruh effect, this is a solid prediction of quantum field theory. 
It’s never been observed, however, as a spaceship would have to accelerate at 
as-yet-unrealistic speeds to generate an effect large enough to be testable. 
But because timelike entanglement also involves particles emerging from 
vacuums, it could be used to conduct more convenient searches, relying on time 
rather than space.

Finding the Unruh effect would provide support for quantum field theory. But it 
might be even more exciting not to see the effect, Olson said.

“It would be more of a shocking result,” Olson said. “If you didn’t see it, 
something would be very wrong with our understanding.”

https://www.wired.com/2011/01/timelike-entanglement/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
Quantum Teleportation
Quantum teleportation provides a mechanism of moving a qubit from one 
location to 

Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Isn't he domiciled in FL somewhere?

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have seen a couple of those when I was first researching MB's. I will do
> a more through review when I am back at work in a week!
>
> Kyle
>
> On Jan 29, 2017 2:23 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> > Better yet, just go to Pierre’s YouTube channel at:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDTOh7Fk-QSSpi24UJIcs5A/featured
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good!  If you look on the thomaspolk website, he as a whole bunch of
> > movies of Pierre and MB cars.
> > >
> > >> Kyle Arola via Mercedes 
> > >> January 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM
> > >> Awesome thanks!
> > >>
> > >> Kyle
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 29, 2017 2:01 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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Re: [MBZ] Window Sealant?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, but my question was about cleaning it from a used windshield.  Haven't 
gotten to asking about installation yet, but thanks for the part number for the 
sealant.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 29, 2017 5:56:06 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Max,
>
>Was it you or someone else asking about windshield sealant?
>(Scheibendichtmittel)
>
>The proper Mercedes part is 001 989 31 20 and it comes in a caulking
>tube with a removable nozzle that is designed to get into the grooves
>on the seals, or to lay a flat bead.
>
>I just bought some to do the replacement of the seal on my W123 rear
>window.  I think it was about $30 for the tube.
>
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

...or the atmosphere is cooling and the earth is shrinking. Your perception has 
no fixed point of reference. Therefore, the theory that the planet is warming 
cannot be demonstrated and/or proven.
It is much like Einstein on his constantly accellerating train which is 
approaching the speed of light.

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> You don't need "theories" - just look at the data.  The planet IS warming
> and sea levels are rising.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh it's at least 2 feet off the ground for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The sill plate should be significantly (maybe 12+ inches) higher than the
> outside grade.  If so, I don't think wicking is an issue.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 11:33 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors
>> 
>> So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the
>> foundation can water "wick" upward along the inside of the stem wall to
> the
>> flooring area?
>> 
>> We also seem to have a water intrusion issue at the window of one of the
>> bedrooms on the front of the house because as I was under the house the
>> stem wall was wet under the area where that window is and the surrounding
>> areas were dry.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would look at two things regarding the constructIon of the house as to
> the
>> moisture:
>>> 
>>> 1.) The gutter in the corner is not configured properly. There should be
> some
>> sort of "splash guard" on the outside edge of the gutter to prevent water
> from
>> washing over the side. What's happening is that rain is collecting in the
> roof
>> valley from either side of the roof. As it collects and flows down the
> valley, the
>> velocity and volume increases, which ends up overwhelming the gutter and
>> washing right over the side of it at that corner. The water then goes to
> the
>> ground in large amounts, even with a relatively small amount of rain.
>>> 
>>> 2.) The ground is not graded away from the foundation at the corner. It
> can't
>> just be landscaping crap like mulch, you've got to go in there with soil
> and fill
>> the area enough to have a grade moving away from the foundation.  Once
>> you've got good compacted soil properly graded you can cover it with
>> landscaping.
>>> 
>>> I think we're looking at multiple problems that have come together to
> cause
>> the damage over time. If you don't fix the gutter and grading, you're
> wasting
>> your time fixing the damaged boards.
>>> 
>>> And I would definitely replace everything with treated lumber. Sill
> plates
>> should be treated per code, I believe. The others would be for insurance.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The sill plate should be significantly (maybe 12+ inches) higher than the
outside grade.  If so, I don't think wicking is an issue.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 11:33 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors
> 
> So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the
> foundation can water "wick" upward along the inside of the stem wall to
the
> flooring area?
> 
> We also seem to have a water intrusion issue at the window of one of the
> bedrooms on the front of the house because as I was under the house the
> stem wall was wet under the area where that window is and the surrounding
> areas were dry.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > I would look at two things regarding the constructIon of the house as to
the
> moisture:
> >
> > 1.) The gutter in the corner is not configured properly. There should be
some
> sort of "splash guard" on the outside edge of the gutter to prevent water
from
> washing over the side. What's happening is that rain is collecting in the
roof
> valley from either side of the roof. As it collects and flows down the
valley, the
> velocity and volume increases, which ends up overwhelming the gutter and
> washing right over the side of it at that corner. The water then goes to
the
> ground in large amounts, even with a relatively small amount of rain.
> >
> > 2.) The ground is not graded away from the foundation at the corner. It
can't
> just be landscaping crap like mulch, you've got to go in there with soil
and fill
> the area enough to have a grade moving away from the foundation.  Once
> you've got good compacted soil properly graded you can cover it with
> landscaping.
> >
> > I think we're looking at multiple problems that have come together to
cause
> the damage over time. If you don't fix the gutter and grading, you're
wasting
> your time fixing the damaged boards.
> >
> > And I would definitely replace everything with treated lumber. Sill
plates
> should be treated per code, I believe. The others would be for insurance.
> >
> > -D
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[clay via Mercedes]

Climate change or the wizards?  

I know there is a bunch of top level science knowledge on this list, and I want 
to know what the heck would really happen with teleportation.  It seems like 
the movies just bypass the reality of what takes place and … Poof!, you get 
Scotty to beam you up.  Driving the W126 pushes a bunch of air.  #1 boy tells 
me that single use teleportation would have no impact.  ie. pulling a blade of 
grass from a lawn does not create a statistically significant change.  But the 
constant yanking of stalks of grass must do something.  A solution posited here 
was that you move in a container.  So, I am poofed in the SDL.  What takes its 
place from where I left, and what of where I land?  Do I need to drive to a 
teleportation station that will provide reciprocal matter transmission?  

Maybe I remove a tablespoon of power steering fluid and put it in the 
transmission.  Do I need to remove the same volume of ATF to put back in the 
steering pump?  The dang movies never show that!  Star Trek has fancy lights 
that shimmer when they teleport.  Is that the O2 in the Enterprise being sent 
to the dead Red shirt on the planet while Kirk and the other guys bring 
xenobacteria back?


OR!  Was it all just there in the beginning with the big bang and will still be 
there when the whole mess falls apart into the constituent sub atomic parts in 
absolute 0 Kelvin?  As it is, the SDL seems on an accelerated pace of entropy 
which I am fighting on a weekly basis.

clay


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just for clarification, subject matter like this that can be construed as 
> political, so it is not considered acceptable here.  Let’s keep it on cars 
> and related subjects.
> 
> If you’re unsure about a topic, run it by Kaleb or myself and we’ll let you 
> know.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -D/ListMom
> 
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> You don't need "theories" - just look at the data.  The planet IS warming
>>> and sea levels are rising.
>> 
>> Is that political? i.e. disallowed at okiebenz?
>> Okay, so... not political - we buy that.
>> What can be accomplished?  Am I doing sufficient against what IS by
>> driving cars that have been on the planet for 30+ years as little as
>> possible? and riding my 80-year-old Schwinn bicycle as much as
>> possible for purposes of commerce?
>> What else can be accomplished against what IS?
>> Seriously.  This is DIY okiebenz.
>> Thanks.
>> tin-man 

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I thought about that when I heard the nasty noises it was making last night.  I 
can have the door panel off in about five minutes, and I like the idea of being 
able to take the check strap out and inspect it while re-lubricating it.

-D


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Can you use a syringe/hose set up so you do not need to remove door panels?
> 
> clay
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Saturday Projects

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

WX was pretty nice here yesterday in north central NC; I think I like global 
warming.  So I mounted the inside and outside units for the split mini heat 
pump  for my workshop/barn.  I decided to wait and hire a HVAC pro for the 
final hookup rather than buying a proper flare tool and replacing the oil in my 
old vacuum pump. Then I installed hydraulic lines for the grapple on my tractor 
and did a mini ops test; that grapple is awesome.  I still need to fab a 
bracket to hold the front end hydraulic quick couplings on the loader cross 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Fun

[clay via Mercedes]

Can you use a syringe/hose set up so you do not need to remove door panels?

clay


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Went over to spend the night at the mother in law’s for her birthday.  I 
> drove to the birthday dinner, and when loading everyone up noticed the right 
> rear door was making the creaky/popping sounds of a dry door check.
> 
> It’s the original one from what I can see, so I guess I’ll have to pull the 
> door panel and pop it out and give it a good lube.  I’ve got a spare if I 
> need it but I’m hoping I caught it in time before it gets goobered up.
> 
> It’s all of maybe 50F here today, wet and overcast.  B!  I’m not feeling 
> like going out and working in the garage today….
> 
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[clay via Mercedes]

But the same thing has been going on for millennia.   Were it not, then I would 
be living under two miles of ice.   Who made the last ice age go away?  

I am suspecting it is alien invaders who teleported down to inspect this big 
ice ball planet.  Their careless use of transporters caused the weather 
patterns to change and the climate moderated.  Then the poor Neanderthals were 
invaded by white folk from out of Africa.


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> On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> You don't need "theories" - just look at the data.  The planet IS warming
> and sea levels are rising.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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>> Bartender, I'll have what he's drinking!
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Re: [MBZ] 3m yellow

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Then you need the foam double sided tape.  Advance Auto carries it in the 
stores, and the roll will last forever.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/3m-super-strength-molding-tape-1-2-x-15-ft-03614/7100055-P?searchTerm=tape

-D

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 6:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> I need to stick a trunk badge back on a car
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> The yellow is for weatherstripping.
>> 
>> What do you want it for?  That’s what dictates which one to get.
>> 
>> 8088 is the light duty stuff, 8089 heavier, 8090 heaviest.
>> 
>> That’s the spray contact cement such as one would use for interior panels, 
>> hood pads, etc.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the yellow 3m adhesive for trim and stuff? I need to buy some but 
>>> can't remember which was the right one.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 3m yellow

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I need to stick a trunk badge back on a car

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No.
> 
> The yellow is for weatherstripping.
> 
> What do you want it for?  That’s what dictates which one to get.
> 
> 8088 is the light duty stuff, 8089 heavier, 8090 heaviest.
> 
> That’s the spray contact cement such as one would use for interior panels, 
> hood pads, etc.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the yellow 3m adhesive for trim and stuff? I need to buy some but 
>> can't remember which was the right one.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 3m yellow

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No.

The yellow is for weatherstripping.

What do you want it for?  That’s what dictates which one to get.

8088 is the light duty stuff, 8089 heavier, 8090 heaviest.

That’s the spray contact cement such as one would use for interior panels, hood 
pads, etc.

-D

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> What is the yellow 3m adhesive for trim and stuff? I need to buy some but 
> can't remember which was the right one.
> 
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[MBZ] 3m yellow

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What is the yellow 3m adhesive for trim and stuff? I need to buy some but can't 
remember which was the right one.

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Window Sealant?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Max,

Was it you or someone else asking about windshield sealant? 
(Scheibendichtmittel)

The proper Mercedes part is 001 989 31 20 and it comes in a caulking tube with 
a removable nozzle that is designed to get into the grooves on the seals, or to 
lay a flat bead.

I just bought some to do the replacement of the seal on my W123 rear window.  I 
think it was about $30 for the tube.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[MG via Mercedes]

Aha. Looks like I remembered backwards. Not too uncommon.

Manfred

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

That flat one is the updated version. The round multiple piece one is the old 
version.

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On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:19 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't know why they 
decided to switch to the newer round version on the 123 and stayed with the 
flat thing on the SD. At first that flat one was used on all of them or so I 
have found other people to say. Haven't done any research of my own on that.

Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number search.
Rick ‎
But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.
Manfred
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Mitch wrote:
> 80 year old Schwinn? Wow.

1938 near as I can tell from web pictures and Sheldon Brown, the
okiebenz of bicycles in Boston, RIP
tin-man

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[MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just for clarification, subject matter like this that can be construed as 
political, so it is not considered acceptable here.  Let’s keep it on cars and 
related subjects.

If you’re unsure about a topic, run it by Kaleb or myself and we’ll let you 
know.

Thank you,

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> On Jan 29, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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> 
> Andrew wrote:
>> You don't need "theories" - just look at the data.  The planet IS warming
>> and sea levels are rising.
> 
> Is that political? i.e. disallowed at okiebenz?
> Okay, so... not political - we buy that.
> What can be accomplished?  Am I doing sufficient against what IS by
> driving cars that have been on the planet for 30+ years as little as
> possible? and riding my 80-year-old Schwinn bicycle as much as
> possible for purposes of commerce?
> What else can be accomplished against what IS?
> Seriously.  This is DIY okiebenz.
> Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

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> On January 29, 2017 at 3:43 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:

> possible? and riding my 80-year-old Schwinn bicycle as much as
> possible for purposes of commerce?


80 year old Schwinn? Wow. 
My Frejus probably isn't 50 yet. And I haven't ridden it in ten years. I doubt 
I even have any tubular tires that are safe to ride on. 
And my Maino is barely 40. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Why we all need dash cameras...

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Both videos = nice! but too bad.
Theory... unprovable but...
All drivers become demon possessed when they get behind the wheel of their car.
tin-man

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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> You don't need "theories" - just look at the data.  The planet IS warming
> and sea levels are rising.

Is that political? i.e. disallowed at okiebenz?
Okay, so... not political - we buy that.
What can be accomplished?  Am I doing sufficient against what IS by
driving cars that have been on the planet for 30+ years as little as
possible? and riding my 80-year-old Schwinn bicycle as much as
possible for purposes of commerce?
What else can be accomplished against what IS?
Seriously.  This is DIY okiebenz.
Thanks.
tin-man

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sure is. About 1600 miles round trip. It was flawless the whole way there and 
back other than having no AC and it was awful hot on the return trip. The check 
engine light came on the day after we go back...
-Curt


  From: Mitch Haley 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question
   
That's the one you drove here in Charlotte, right?
Mitch.


> On January 29, 2017 at 1:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well I don't know what he's upset about, the Jetta is one of my favorite 
> cars. Its small, quick and frugal to operate. I realized yesterday that I've 
> put around 45,000 miles on it, not bad for a rusty $1500 car.


   
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Also it averaged 48mpg over those 1500 miles (3 states and one Canadian 
province) while loaded heavy and running fast.
-Curt

 

 From: Curt Raymond 
 To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question
   
Sure is. About 1600 miles round trip. It was flawless the whole way there and 
back other than having no AC and it was awful hot on the return trip. The check 
engine light came on the day after we go back...
-Curt


  From: Mitch Haley 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question
  
That's the one you drove here in Charlotte, right?
Mitch.


> On January 29, 2017 at 1:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well I don't know what he's upset about, the Jetta is one of my favorite 
> cars. Its small, quick and frugal to operate. I realized yesterday that I've 
> put around 45,000 miles on it, not bad for a rusty $1500 car.


   

   
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

That's the one you drove here in Charlotte, right?
Mitch.


> On January 29, 2017 at 1:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well I don't know what he's upset about, the Jetta is one of my favorite 
> cars. Its small, quick and frugal to operate. I realized yesterday that I've 
> put around 45,000 miles on it, not bad for a rusty $1500 car.

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Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I have seen a couple of those when I was first researching MB's. I will do
a more through review when I am back at work in a week!

Kyle

On Jan 29, 2017 2:23 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> Better yet, just go to Pierre’s YouTube channel at:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDTOh7Fk-QSSpi24UJIcs5A/featured
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good!  If you look on the thomaspolk website, he as a whole bunch of
> movies of Pierre and MB cars.
> >
> >> Kyle Arola via Mercedes 
> >> January 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM
> >> Awesome thanks!
> >>
> >> Kyle
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

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Better yet, just go to Pierre’s YouTube channel at:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDTOh7Fk-QSSpi24UJIcs5A/featured

-D


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> Good!  If you look on the thomaspolk website, he as a whole bunch of movies 
> of Pierre and MB cars.
> 
>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes 
>> January 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM
>> Awesome thanks!
>> 
>> Kyle
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Good!  If you look on the thomaspolk website, he as a whole bunch of 
movies of Pierre and MB cars.



Kyle Arola via Mercedes 
January 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM
Awesome thanks!

Kyle

On Jan 29, 2017 2:01 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 


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Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Awesome thanks!

Kyle

On Jan 29, 2017 2:01 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> If you didn't already find it:
>
> http://www.thomaspolk.net/mercedes-benz/2015/12/4/new-video
>
> Removing 123 bumpers
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[MBZ] one for Kyle

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If you didn't already find it:

http://www.thomaspolk.net/mercedes-benz/2015/12/4/new-video

Removing 123 bumpers

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Crab crab it was 40F yesterday when I replaced the alternator and crawled 
around on the icy ground. We've barely seen the sun for 2 weeks. I wouldn't 
mind if it snow but we keep sliding back and forth between the mid 20s and the 
low 50s with rain and snow showers.
Go home mother nature, you're drunk.
-Curt


  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:54 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] W126 Fun
   
Went over to spend the night at the mother in law’s for her birthday.  I drove 
to the birthday dinner, and when loading everyone up noticed the right rear 
door was making the creaky/popping sounds of a dry door check.

It’s the original one from what I can see, so I guess I’ll have to pull the 
door panel and pop it out and give it a good lube.  I’ve got a spare if I need 
it but I’m hoping I caught it in time before it gets goobered up.

It’s all of maybe 50F here today, wet and overcast.  B!  I’m not feeling 
like going out and working in the garage today….

-D
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Fun

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's nice a sunny here and I have been in a lazy funk as of late and have not 
felt like working out in the shop. As a result nothing has been done in a 
while. I was going to swap out some ballasts in 3 8ft fixtures out there but 
can find any wire nuts so I'm fixing to head to town to get some. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Went over to spend the night at the mother in law’s for her birthday.  I 
> drove to the birthday dinner, and when loading everyone up noticed the right 
> rear door was making the creaky/popping sounds of a dry door check.
> 
> It’s the original one from what I can see, so I guess I’ll have to pull the 
> door panel and pop it out and give it a good lube.  I’ve got a spare if I 
> need it but I’m hoping I caught it in time before it gets goobered up.
> 
> It’s all of maybe 50F here today, wet and overcast.  B!  I’m not feeling 
> like going out and working in the garage today….
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] W126 Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Went over to spend the night at the mother in law’s for her birthday.  I drove 
to the birthday dinner, and when loading everyone up noticed the right rear 
door was making the creaky/popping sounds of a dry door check.

It’s the original one from what I can see, so I guess I’ll have to pull the 
door panel and pop it out and give it a good lube.  I’ve got a spare if I need 
it but I’m hoping I caught it in time before it gets goobered up.

It’s all of maybe 50F here today, wet and overcast.  B!  I’m not feeling 
like going out and working in the garage today….

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Well I don't know what he's upset about, the Jetta is one of my favorite cars. 
Its small, quick and frugal to operate. I realized yesterday that I've put 
around 45,000 miles on it, not bad for a rusty $1500 car.
Spent some time crawling around under it yesterday while the oil was draining. 
The under floor rust really isn't as bad as I though it was. If I pull the 
carpet out I could fix the worst of it in an afternoon and probably get another 
year out of it. I was planning on replacing it in the spring but it might have 
a new lease on life.
-Curt

  From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question
   
It's very likely that you have a German sprite, a "Kobold", living in your car. 
You recently made disparaging remarks about the car which must have angered the 
Kobold.
I have them living in my cars. Shortly after buying a Prius the ignition switch 
died in my 300D. I worked and worked trying to get it to operate properly, but 
the new mechanism would never go into start mode. One day, after it had sat for 
a few months, without thinking I got in, preheated, and turned the ignition to 
start. It started! The Kobold had obviously removed its spell.

Also, FWIW, there are rumours going around that a certain Germanic individual 
who has obtained enormous power is actually a Kobold in human form. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobold

 

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

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> On January 28, 2017 5:11:28 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> >I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98
> >Jetta on the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and
> >installed a used one, PITA job, the engine bay is tight and I think the
> >alternator was probably original at 279,000 miles. These have an
> >interesting one way clutch that I had to transfer to the replacement,
> >glad I ordered the tool to remove it...
> >Anyway when I got it all installed it didn't work, the idiot light was
> >still on and battery voltage measured around 12.5v. I was pretty
> >defeated at that point. A little later I had to move the car so I could
> >push some snow (well ice really) off the driveway, the first time I
> >revved the engine the light went out...Not to look a gift horse in the
> >mouth I used the car to go over to the park to walk the dog, idiot
> >light stayed out, heater fan ran, seat heater on.
> >When I got home I put the meter on with the engine running, 14.8v just
> >like you'd expect.
> >Is this something I should have expected? I don't remember going
> >through this before but its been a few years since I've changed an
> >alternator.
> >-Curt
> >___
It's very likely that you have a German sprite, a "Kobold", living in your car. 
You recently made disparaging remarks about the car which must have angered the 
Kobold.

I have them living in my cars. Shortly after buying a Prius the ignition switch 
died in my 300D. I worked and worked trying to get it to operate properly, but 
the new mechanism would never go into start mode. One day, after it had sat for 
a few months, without thinking I got in, preheated, and turned the ignition to 
start. It started! The Kobold had obviously removed its spell.

Also, FWIW, there are rumours going around that a certain Germanic individual 
who has obtained enormous power is actually a Kobold in human form. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobold

 

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Re: [MBZ] Why we all need dash cameras...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It felt SO good to see that SOB get his comeuppance.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Or this one:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSE3fkeHAmo
> Closer to home.  Exit 146 on US41/I-41 in WI   (Appleton, WI)
>
> http://www.banggood.com/buy/dash-cam.html  cheaper than a smartfone.
>
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> January 28, 2017 at 10:20 PM
>>
>> Just a reminder that I've got to do something, at least set up a
>> smartphone to continuously record...I'd hate have something like this
>> happen and be found at fault because I rear ended the guy...
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfWfSgyN2c
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - No Political Topics

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks, Dan.  This is like turning on the lights and startling the
cockroaches.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> > Enough.
>
> Me? - did I do dat?
> tin-man
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Re: [MBZ] FWIW

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wonder why Saudi Arabia isn't on the list.  Didn't they support the 9/11
highjackers?



On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> Fred wrote:
> > I could just cry.
>
> If the house is on fire, we should do something...
> Probably not a mere whim that these countries were selected.
> The prohibition is 90-days and then resume those countries, probably.
> tin-man
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You don't need "theories" - just look at the data.  The planet IS warming
and sea levels are rising.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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>
> Bartender, I'll have what he's drinking!
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> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Need ideas for cleaning urethane sealant from windshield

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Grant, that's good to know and probably the best course of action.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:07 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Couple of times I've had used glass installed by a glass shop, the techs
> just cut back the sealant with razor knife and left about 1/4 inch of
> sealant on the surface.
>
> They then bedded the used glass in new sealant, just like it was "new
> glass".
>
> The old sealant had good contact with the glass, no areas were separated.
> Had no leak issues with "new install" of the "used glass".
>
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I thought it was strange, too.  I figured this out when I went looking 
for the flat tube for the 300D.  My parts guy traced it down and also reminded 
me of when I bought one for the 300SD back in 1997 (is this guy good, or 
what???)

Looks like Meyle is the only one making them now in the aftermarket, at least 
that was the only one I could find.  I just like the aesthetics of the thing. 
The hard plastic tubes with the foamy coves that break down and the rubber 
elbows and clamps just look lousy.

-D


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's strange they would update it for 126 but not 123 since it's the same 
> engine with the same problems.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The flat one was designed to limit the amount of oil mist/vapor that could 
>> get to the air cleaner, too.  There are little baffles inside of it for this.
>> 
>> From what I can determine it was never spec’ed out for the OM617 on the 
>> W123, but it was on the OM617 on the W126 chassis’ cars.  I got one for my 
>> 82 300SD some years back when I tried ordering a replacement tube and the 
>> tube part number superceded to the flat one piece version.
>> 
>> Interestingly, the flat one is now NLA from Mercedes but they still sell the 
>> original style tubes and elbows.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Usinger elves Wuz: Alternator question

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M.  My bi-monthly care package from Bernie’s Fine Meats is due next week.  
I want it NOW!

Have seen the Usinger’s elves on more than one occasion.  Wonderful place to 
visit.  Follow up with a helping of frozen custard. Yum.

-D

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Had Usingers Brats & Sauerkraut last Sat.
> 
> 
> On Sat,1/28/17 17:43, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> I finally found a couple of pictures of the original elf murals:
>> 
>> https://enchantedamerica.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/wisconsin-milwaukee-usingers-sausage-elf-mural.jpg
>>  
>> 
>> http://www.findingjoyinallthings.com/2014_01_01_archive.html
>> 
>> The 5 lb bulk boxes used to have Bavarian elves all around.
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's strange they would update it for 126 but not 123 since it's the same 
engine with the same problems.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The flat one was designed to limit the amount of oil mist/vapor that could 
> get to the air cleaner, too.  There are little baffles inside of it for this.
> 
> From what I can determine it was never spec’ed out for the OM617 on the W123, 
> but it was on the OM617 on the W126 chassis’ cars.  I got one for my 82 300SD 
> some years back when I tried ordering a replacement tube and the tube part 
> number superceded to the flat one piece version.
> 
> Interestingly, the flat one is now NLA from Mercedes but they still sell the 
> original style tubes and elbows.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That flat one is the updated version. The round multiple piece one is the 
>> old version.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:19 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't know why they 
>>> decided to switch to the newer round version on the 123 and stayed with the 
>>> flat thing on the SD. At first that flat one was used on all of them or so 
>>> I have found other people to say. Haven't done any research of my own on 
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> Manfred
>>> 
>>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
 Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number 
 search.
 Rick ‎
 But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The flat one was designed to limit the amount of oil mist/vapor that could get 
to the air cleaner, too.  There are little baffles inside of it for this.

From what I can determine it was never spec’ed out for the OM617 on the W123, 
but it was on the OM617 on the W126 chassis’ cars.  I got one for my 82 300SD 
some years back when I tried ordering a replacement tube and the tube part 
number superceded to the flat one piece version.

Interestingly, the flat one is now NLA from Mercedes but they still sell the 
original style tubes and elbows.

-D




> On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That flat one is the updated version. The round multiple piece one is the old 
> version.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:19 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't know why they 
>> decided to switch to the newer round version on the 123 and stayed with the 
>> flat thing on the SD. At first that flat one was used on all of them or so I 
>> have found other people to say. Haven't done any research of my own on that.
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number 
>>> search.
>>> Rick ‎
>>> But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.
>>> Manfred
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Certainly.  Look up “capillary action”.

But understand that water is probably puddling in that corner as well, despite 
it draining away after maybe a short time.

Intrusion around the window openings is certainly a possibility, too.


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the 
> foundation can water "wick" upward along the inside of the stem wall to the 
> flooring area? 
> 
> We also seem to have a water intrusion issue at the window of one of the 
> bedrooms on the front of the house because as I was under the house the stem 
> wall was wet under the area where that window is and the surrounding areas 
> were dry. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

One other thing also.  From doing some research online I will be back 
over there today and I am going to make sure the brick actually has weep 
holes like it should, which is supposed to drain any water out from 
behind the bring that may get in rather than it finding its way out to 
other spots. I do not really think this is my problem but something I 
want to check none the less.



On 1/29/2017 10:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the foundation can 
water "wick" upward along the inside of the stem wall to the flooring area?

We also seem to have a water intrusion issue at the window of one of the 
bedrooms on the front of the house because as I was under the house the stem 
wall was wet under the area where that window is and the surrounding areas were 
dry.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

I would look at two things regarding the constructIon of the house as to the 
moisture:

1.) The gutter in the corner is not configured properly. There should be some sort of 
"splash guard" on the outside edge of the gutter to prevent water from washing 
over the side. What's happening is that rain is collecting in the roof valley from either 
side of the roof. As it collects and flows down the valley, the velocity and volume 
increases, which ends up overwhelming the gutter and washing right over the side of it at 
that corner. The water then goes to the ground in large amounts, even with a relatively 
small amount of rain.

2.) The ground is not graded away from the foundation at the corner. It can't 
just be landscaping crap like mulch, you've got to go in there with soil and 
fill the area enough to have a grade moving away from the foundation.  Once 
you've got good compacted soil properly graded you can cover it with 
landscaping.

I think we're looking at multiple problems that have come together to cause the 
damage over time. If you don't fix the gutter and grading, you're wasting your 
time fixing the damaged boards.

And I would definitely replace everything with treated lumber. Sill plates 
should be treated per code, I believe. The others would be for insurance.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the 
foundation can water "wick" upward along the inside of the stem wall to the 
flooring area? 

We also seem to have a water intrusion issue at the window of one of the 
bedrooms on the front of the house because as I was under the house the stem 
wall was wet under the area where that window is and the surrounding areas were 
dry. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I would look at two things regarding the constructIon of the house as to the 
> moisture:
> 
> 1.) The gutter in the corner is not configured properly. There should be some 
> sort of "splash guard" on the outside edge of the gutter to prevent water 
> from washing over the side. What's happening is that rain is collecting in 
> the roof valley from either side of the roof. As it collects and flows down 
> the valley, the velocity and volume increases, which ends up overwhelming the 
> gutter and washing right over the side of it at that corner. The water then 
> goes to the ground in large amounts, even with a relatively small amount of 
> rain.
> 
> 2.) The ground is not graded away from the foundation at the corner. It can't 
> just be landscaping crap like mulch, you've got to go in there with soil and 
> fill the area enough to have a grade moving away from the foundation.  Once 
> you've got good compacted soil properly graded you can cover it with 
> landscaping.
> 
> I think we're looking at multiple problems that have come together to cause 
> the damage over time. If you don't fix the gutter and grading, you're wasting 
> your time fixing the damaged boards.
> 
> And I would definitely replace everything with treated lumber. Sill plates 
> should be treated per code, I believe. The others would be for insurance.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Nope. Pretty sure I either screwed up the seal or the tension spring popped
off or it is just a bad one.  I just did the axles so pretty sure I screwed
up the drivers side. Will be ordering a new one and repairing it next week.
Bummer.

Kyle

On Jan 29, 2017 8:42 AM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Is there a new thread about Kyle's leaking diff?
> --
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> '95 E300
>
> On January 28, 2017 5:21:58 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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> >
> >Now if my rear diff leak settles out We can both be happy! Hahaha!
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I would look at two things regarding the constructIon of the house as to the 
moisture:

1.) The gutter in the corner is not configured properly. There should be some 
sort of "splash guard" on the outside edge of the gutter to prevent water from 
washing over the side. What's happening is that rain is collecting in the roof 
valley from either side of the roof. As it collects and flows down the valley, 
the velocity and volume increases, which ends up overwhelming the gutter and 
washing right over the side of it at that corner. The water then goes to the 
ground in large amounts, even with a relatively small amount of rain.

2.) The ground is not graded away from the foundation at the corner. It can't 
just be landscaping crap like mulch, you've got to go in there with soil and 
fill the area enough to have a grade moving away from the foundation.  Once 
you've got good compacted soil properly graded you can cover it with 
landscaping.

I think we're looking at multiple problems that have come together to cause the 
damage over time. If you don't fix the gutter and grading, you're wasting your 
time fixing the damaged boards.

And I would definitely replace everything with treated lumber. Sill plates 
should be treated per code, I believe. The others would be for insurance.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Automotive uses:

Carbide thin kerf blade makes a great panel cutter for removing damaged
areas.  It's possible to make plunge cuts in center of a panel.. invent
other applications I haven't thought of.

Gasket scraper: Grind the teeth off of a straight blade [re-purpose one
thats gone dull] and sharpen it a bit... The thing goes through stuck on
gasket bits like butter..

DO NOT USE IT ON ALUMINUM.. aluminum is to soft and you will gouge the
gasket surface.. Don't ask how I learned that.. ha.. But.. cast iron, or
sheet metal.. works like a champ..

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have seen these but never gave them a thought. Do they have any
> automotive uses also?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 28, 2017, at 11:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Kaleb,
> > That is the saw I had in mind.. I bought one, liked it so much, I bought
> a
> > second one. If you use just a bit of inventiveness you'll find ways to
> cut
> > things you never thought possible..
> >
> > BTW.. Home Depot also sells a saw like it.. for lots more money.. however
> > the blades will work on the Harbor Fright saw, and they are better
> > quality.. worth the few bucks.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Is this the sort of saw you are talking about?
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/v
> >> ariable-speed-oscillating-multi-tool-63111.html
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 1/28/2017 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is the best idea I have heard so far. Can you share a link to this
> >>> HF saw you are talking about?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
>  I would look at doing the whole job from the top side, instead of
> trying
>  to
>  lay on my back under the house, since the tile underlay boards have
>  failed
>  also.
> 
>  Harbor Freight sells a nice [cheap is nice when it works] flush cut
>  vibrating saw with all kinds of different blades. I would use one of
>  those
>  with the grout cut blade to section the tile back far enough to gain
>  access
>  to the underlay board. This could be done in such a way to preserve
> the
>  tile and reuse it. There is a blade that will go under the tile and
>  vibrate/cut the grout, thus releasing a row.
> 
>  From that space, use the flush cut blade [you'll see what they are
> when
>  you
>  see them] to cut the underlay board out [in pieces if need be] which
> will
>  then give you access to the floor joists.  The flush cut blade will
> allow
>  you to cut right up to the drywall of the sidewall, without damaging
> the
>  drywall.. I've done this using a 6 inch drywall knife behind the flush
>  cut
>  blade to keep it off the drywall surface. A piece of flat sheet metal
>  would
>  do the same. The drywall knife just has a handy handle to move it
> along
>  with the saw.
> 
>  With a working opening, from the top side, sectioning out the damaged
>  joist, and sistering in fresh wood with screwed and glued plates
> would be
>  "easy peasy"...
> 
>  Cut a new piece of underlay board to fit the surgery hole.. screw it
> to
>  the
>  "now fresh joists" and relay the tile you just salvaged... even the
>  broken
>  tile would re-lay with solid floor under it.. there might be a
> hairline
>  crack, but I would Gorillia glue the pieces together, and lay it..
> match
>  the grout..done and dusted..
> 
>  Saws are on sale often at Harbor Freight.. $40 or less..
> 
>  On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
>  On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:17:10 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The joists themselves are fine except on the very end.
> >>>
> >> Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run
> TWO
> >> replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the rotted
> >> ones, with 2' of overlap, so it goes from solid original joist, to
> >> triple joist, to double joist at the end. If it's only rotted for a
> few
> >> feet at the end, materials for the double reinforcement shouldn't
> cost
> >> much.
> >>
> > An excellent idea!
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Need ideas for cleaning urethane sealant from windshield

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Couple of times I've had used glass installed by a glass shop, the techs
just cut back the sealant with razor knife and left about 1/4 inch of
sealant on the surface.

They then bedded the used glass in new sealant, just like it was "new
glass".

The old sealant had good contact with the glass, no areas were separated.
Had no leak issues with "new install" of the "used glass".

Might work for you.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Rich and I removed this windshield yesterday, plan is to install in my '95
> sedan.  I'd like to clean off the sticky sealant, but the trick will be not
> damaging the black paint underneath (perimeter of the inside of the glass).
>
> Any ideas for a product or method?
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Used alternator yes. I paid I think $42 with tax and a $5 core charge which I 
think is forfeit since I had to rip the back cover of the old one to shreds to 
get to look at the voltage regulator. The screws that hold the cover broke off 
but stayed wedged in the plastic which being almost 20 years old broke easily.

BTW these use a similar voltage regulator to the MB alternators you may be 
familiar with. The regulator on my old one had brushes worn down to nubbins. I 
suspect it could be brought back to life with a new VR but in comparing the old 
alternator to its replacement the old one was making a slight crunchy bearing 
noise so even though the replacement is re-manufactured its in the car.
Also BTW the entire alternator process plus an oil change took just over 3 
hours. Having done it once and figuring out what tools I need I could probably 
cut that time in half. The toolset is super limited, the most important thing 
was a 1 1/16" wrench (originally bought for 240D oil cooler connections, MB 
content!) to wrench (HA!) the old alternator out.
-Curt


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 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question
   
Bravo on the repair! Used alternator, right? Cost?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On January 28, 2017 5:11:28 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 Jetta on 
the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and installed a used one, 
PITA job, the engine bay is tight and I think the alternator was probably 
original at 279,000 miles. These have an interesting one way clutch that I had 
to transfer to the replacement, glad I ordered the tool to remove it...
Anyway when I got it all installed it didn't work, the idiot light was still on 
and battery voltage measured around 12.5v. I was pretty defeated at that point. 
A little later I had to move the car so I could push some snow (well ice 
really) off the driveway, the first time I revved the engine the light went 
out...Not to look a gift horse in the mouth I used the car to go over to the 
park to walk the dog, idiot light stayed out, heater fan ran, seat heater on.
When I got home I put the meter on with the engine running, 14.8v just like 
you'd expect.
Is this something I should have expected? I don't remember going through this 
before but its been a few years since I've changed an alternator.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That flat one is the updated version. The round multiple piece one is the old 
version.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:19 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't know why they 
> decided to switch to the newer round version on the 123 and stayed with the 
> flat thing on the SD. At first that flat one was used on all of them or so I 
> have found other people to say. Haven't done any research of my own on that.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number 
>> search.
>> Rick ‎
>> But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.
>> Manfred
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have seen these but never gave them a thought. Do they have any automotive 
uses also?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 11:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> That is the saw I had in mind.. I bought one, liked it so much, I bought a
> second one. If you use just a bit of inventiveness you'll find ways to cut
> things you never thought possible..
> 
> BTW.. Home Depot also sells a saw like it.. for lots more money.. however
> the blades will work on the Harbor Fright saw, and they are better
> quality.. worth the few bucks.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is this the sort of saw you are talking about?
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/v
>> ariable-speed-oscillating-multi-tool-63111.html
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/28/2017 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is the best idea I have heard so far. Can you share a link to this
>>> HF saw you are talking about?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:
 
 I would look at doing the whole job from the top side, instead of trying
 to
 lay on my back under the house, since the tile underlay boards have
 failed
 also.
 
 Harbor Freight sells a nice [cheap is nice when it works] flush cut
 vibrating saw with all kinds of different blades. I would use one of
 those
 with the grout cut blade to section the tile back far enough to gain
 access
 to the underlay board. This could be done in such a way to preserve the
 tile and reuse it. There is a blade that will go under the tile and
 vibrate/cut the grout, thus releasing a row.
 
 From that space, use the flush cut blade [you'll see what they are when
 you
 see them] to cut the underlay board out [in pieces if need be] which will
 then give you access to the floor joists.  The flush cut blade will allow
 you to cut right up to the drywall of the sidewall, without damaging the
 drywall.. I've done this using a 6 inch drywall knife behind the flush
 cut
 blade to keep it off the drywall surface. A piece of flat sheet metal
 would
 do the same. The drywall knife just has a handy handle to move it along
 with the saw.
 
 With a working opening, from the top side, sectioning out the damaged
 joist, and sistering in fresh wood with screwed and glued plates would be
 "easy peasy"...
 
 Cut a new piece of underlay board to fit the surgery hole.. screw it to
 the
 "now fresh joists" and relay the tile you just salvaged... even the
 broken
 tile would re-lay with solid floor under it.. there might be a hairline
 crack, but I would Gorillia glue the pieces together, and lay it.. match
 the grout..done and dusted..
 
 Saws are on sale often at Harbor Freight.. $40 or less..
 
 On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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 On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:17:10 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The joists themselves are fine except on the very end.
>>> 
>> Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run TWO
>> replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the rotted
>> ones, with 2' of overlap, so it goes from solid original joist, to
>> triple joist, to double joist at the end. If it's only rotted for a few
>> feet at the end, materials for the double reinforcement shouldn't cost
>> much.
>> 
> An excellent idea!
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well we're damn glad you were in a Benz that gave it's last full measure for 
you!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 28, 2017 10:35:59 PM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Makes me sad all over again.
>
>Wilton
>
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[MBZ] Need ideas for cleaning urethane sealant from windshield

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Rich and I removed this windshield yesterday, plan is to install in my '95 
sedan.  I'd like to clean off the sticky sealant, but the trick will be not 
damaging the black paint underneath (perimeter of the inside of the glass).

Any ideas for a product or method?
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[MG via Mercedes]

Not that I know of. Last I knew (yesterday) Kyle was hard at work 
replacing the rear wheel bearings.


Manfred

Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Is there a new thread about Kyle's leaking diff?


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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[MG via Mercedes]

From the ones I've seen no, since those don't seem to go into 
the top of the air cleaner. Even if the hose goes from the valve 
cover to the top of the air cleaner it would still probably not 
work since the 616 is shorter so the distance will be shorter.


Manfred

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Would one of those work on a 616? I found that breather apparatus troublesome 
and prone to leaks.
-Curt

  From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 To: "mercedes@okiebenz com"  
Cc: Karl Wittnebel 

 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 11:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question
   
+1. No leaks.


On Jan 28, 2017 6:36 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:


I have one on the 300D. It eliminated all the kludgy plastic pipes and
elbows.

-D


On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number

search.

Rick ‎

But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Bravo on the repair!  Used alternator, right?  Cost?
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 28, 2017 5:11:28 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98
>Jetta on the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and
>installed a used one, PITA job, the engine bay is tight and I think the
>alternator was probably original at 279,000 miles. These have an
>interesting one way clutch that I had to transfer to the replacement,
>glad I ordered the tool to remove it...
>Anyway when I got it all installed it didn't work, the idiot light was
>still on and battery voltage measured around 12.5v. I was pretty
>defeated at that point. A little later I had to move the car so I could
>push some snow (well ice really) off the driveway, the first time I
>revved the engine the light went out...Not to look a gift horse in the
>mouth I used the car to go over to the park to walk the dog, idiot
>light stayed out, heater fan ran, seat heater on.
>When I got home I put the meter on with the engine running, 14.8v just
>like you'd expect.
>Is this something I should have expected? I don't remember going
>through this before but its been a few years since I've changed an
>alternator.
>-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Is there a new thread about Kyle's leaking diff?
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 28, 2017 5:21:58 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>Now if my rear diff leak settles out We can both be happy! Hahaha!
>
>Kyle
>
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

*Snort* English undercoat...
Angie's Golf got a good dose of that when I bent the oil pan. The tow dolly did 
too now that I think of it.

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Fred Moir via 
Mercedes wrote:   Alles.

When the 300TD came into my possession ( in Punta Gorda ), the original 
breather elbow was split and the engine compartment was full of english 
undercoat.

The floppy snake breather hose with the ribbed insides fixed the problem and 
still works today.

YMMV


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of MG via Mercedes 

Sent: 29 January 2017 08:19
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: trainpain2...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't
know why they decided to switch to the newer round version on the
123 and stayed with the flat thing on the SD. At first that flat
one was used on all of them or so I have found other people to
say. Haven't done any research of my own on that.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Alles.

When the 300TD came into my possession ( in Punta Gorda ), the original 
breather elbow was split and the engine compartment was full of english 
undercoat.

The floppy snake breather hose with the ribbed insides fixed the problem and 
still works today.

YMMV


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of MG via Mercedes 

Sent: 29 January 2017 08:19
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Cc: trainpain2...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't
know why they decided to switch to the newer round version on the
123 and stayed with the flat thing on the SD. At first that flat
one was used on all of them or so I have found other people to
say. Haven't done any research of my own on that.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[MG via Mercedes]

Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't 
know why they decided to switch to the newer round version on the 
123 and stayed with the flat thing on the SD. At first that flat 
one was used on all of them or so I have found other people to 
say. Haven't done any research of my own on that.


Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number search.

Rick ‎

But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Would one of those work on a 616? I found that breather apparatus troublesome 
and prone to leaks.
-Curt

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 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 11:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question
   
+1. No leaks.

On Jan 28, 2017 6:36 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I have one on the 300D. It eliminated all the kludgy plastic pipes and
> elbows.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number
> search.
> >
> > Rick ‎
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> > But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.
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