Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

As G Mann wrote: The involvement of the brain is now a major interest of those 
researching the cause and treatment of tinnitus. Following is one interesting 
approach. Research on the cause(s) of tinnitus are interesting, but since 
Andrew is probably most interested in treatment and relief, he might be better 
off going to a clinic that specializes in treatment and relief. Then, if that 
clinic affords no relief, he still has the option of going to a clinic doing 
research on tinnitus. Of course, that is just a guess since there is no way of 
knowing which clinic in the DC area would help Andrew the most.
Gerry

Neuroscientists Identify Brain Mechanism Responsible for Tinnitus, Chronic Pain

Neuroscientists at Georgetown University Medical Center (GUMC) and Germany’s 
Technische Universität München report that they’ve identified the brain 
mechanism responsible for tinnitus and chronic pain — the symptoms that can 
persist long after an initial injury.

In an article slated to appear in the October 2015 issue of Trends in Cognitive 
Sciences, researchers explain that identifying the underlying problem is the 
first step to developing effective therapies for tinnitus and chronic pain. In 
their article, the scientists describe how the neural mechanisms that normally 
“gate” or control noise and pain signals can become dysfunctional, leading to a 
chronic perception of these sensations. In their study, the researchers traced 
the flow of these signals through the brain and showed where “circuit breakers” 
should be working, but aren’t.

In both disorders, according to the research team, the brain has been 
reorganized in response to an injury in its sensory apparatus. Tinnitus can 
occur after the ears are damaged by loud noise or other issue, but even after 
the brain reorganizes itself, it continues to “hear” a constant hum or drum. 
Chronic pain can occur from an injury that often is healed elsewhere in the 
body but persists inside the brain.

Josef Rauschecker, PhD, DSc, Georgetown University Medical Center wrote:

“Some people call these phantom sensations, but they are real, produced by a 
brain that continues to ‘feel’ the initial injury because it cannot 
down-regulate the sensations enough,” said Josef Rauschecker, PhD, DSc, 
director of the Laboratory for Integrative Neuroscience and Cognition at GUMC. 
“Both conditions are extraordinarily common, yet no treatment gets to the root 
of these disorders.”

The researchers report that areas of the brain responsible for these errant 
sensations are the nucleus accumbens, the reward and learning center, as well 
as other brain regions that serve “executive” or administrative roles, such as 
the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (VNPFC), and the anterior cingulate cortex. 
All of these areas are also important for evaluating and modulating emotional 
experiences, according to Rauschecker.

“These areas act as a central gatekeeping system for perceptual sensations, 
which evaluate the affective meaning of sensory stimuli — whether produced 
externally or internally — and modulate information flow in the brain. Tinnitus 
and chronic pain occur when this system is compromised,” Rauschecker says. He 
notes that other issues often arise in concert with tinnitus and/or chronic 
pain, such as depression and anxiety, which are also modulated by the nucleus 
accumbens. Uncontrollable or long-term stress is another important factor in 
these symptoms.

The brain plasticity that produces some of these changes provides hope that 
this gatekeeping role can be restored. Because these systems rely on 
transmission of dopamine and serotonin between neurons, drugs that modulate 
dopamine may help restore sensory gating.


Markus Ploner, MD, PhD, TUM School of Medicine
“Better understanding could also lead to standardized assessment of 
individuals’ risk to develop chronic tinnitus and chronic pain, which in turn 
might allow for earlier and more targeted treatment,” said Markus Ploner, MD, 
PhD, a consultant neurologist and Heisenberg Professor of Human Pain Research 
at the Technische Universität München (TUM) in Germany.

Rauschecker, an expert in tinnitus, collaborated with Ploner, who studies 
chronic pain, during his senior fellowship at the Institute of Advanced Study 
at TUM. Co-authors include Audrey Maudoux, MD, PhD, from GUMC and Elisabeth 
May, PhD, from TUM.

Source: Newswise; Trends in Cognitive Sciences; Georgetown University Medical 
Center

For a related story, read this article describing a research study from McGill 
University Medical Centre that looks at the neuropathic pathways of pain–or, 
“pain in the brain.”
~~~
G Mann wrote:
> The latest research I've come across identifies the source of Tinnitus to
> be located in the brain, rather than in the ear. The sounds you are hearing
> are "electrical discharge" located in the brain cells, according to the
> latest investigations.
> 
> I didn't do the research... ju

[MBZ] BaT Flip For Kaleb

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Just have Dimitri patch up the bullet hole. 

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Re: [MBZ] Another BaT Flip For Dan

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Not that bad looking of a car for the $$.  I’m not that keen on the W124 
coupes, however.

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Re: [MBZ] Another BaT Flip For Dan

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If it were closer I would be on it

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Re: [MBZ] BaT Flip For Kaleb

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That’s a good deal depending on what that bullet lodged in and what mayhem it 
left behind. 

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Re: [MBZ] Another BaT Flip For Dan

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That looks nice. Poos needs to go check that out. $1200 would be an excellent 
deal. 

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Re: [MBZ] Broke Brakes!

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I would gently threaten to write a bad review, unless they came up with a
plan to compensate me for my travails.

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> >Not much.  Just tell everyone I meet that >would listen, naming names.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 for Michael Esh or Mitch

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Is this someone's idea of a bad joke?

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Re: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Remind me to hire one of you sleuths for my next PPI.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:20:02 -0500 tyee165 via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Cracked dash, cracked and peeling wood on dash, split seats, damaged
> > grill, dirty carpets, rusty underneath etc
>
> Jury-rigged rear exhaust hanger, rust bubbles on rear of trunk lid,
> paint chip on rear of right-front wheel well, paint damage between
> left-front wheel well and driver's door, strange wire on passenger's
> side of console, damage on dark member to the left of the driver's
> rug, driver's rug dirty and damaged, storage bins on the rears of the
> front seats sagging and stretched, damage on center of bottom cushion
> of rear seat, driveshaft tunnel rug discolored, console vent beneath
> ash tray and ash tray dirty, colored dings on passenger's map pocket,
> non-standard fasteners and dirt on inside of driver's door, leaves in
> engine compartment, rust around vehicle identification plate, factory
> rust-proofing coating damaged underneath passenger's compartment, etc.!
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks again.  I had always thought that tinnitus meant ringing in the ears
- a terrible affliction.  My "constant steam radiator" is actually not that
disruptive, as the only adverse effect is diminished hearing acuity.
Still, I don't know if this will worsen or transform over time to something
different/worse, so I will try to find a qualified practitioner to get
checked out and rule out any serious underlying causes.  It better not be
diesel pollution.  ;)

P.S.  I began the Dillon Experiment this morning by eliminating my massive
daily does of vitamin B12.  We'll see what happens..

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:18 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As G Mann wrote: The involvement of the brain is now a major interest of
> those researching the cause and treatment of tinnitus. Following is one
> interesting approach. Research on the cause(s) of tinnitus are interesting,
> but since Andrew is probably most interested in treatment and relief, he
> might be better off going to a clinic that specializes in treatment and
> relief. Then, if that clinic affords no relief, he still has the option of
> going to a clinic doing research on tinnitus. Of course, that is just a
> guess since there is no way of knowing which clinic in the DC area would
> help Andrew the most.
> Gerry
>
> Neuroscientists Identify Brain Mechanism Responsible for Tinnitus, Chronic
> Pain
>
> Neuroscientists at Georgetown University Medical Center (GUMC) and
> Germany’s Technische Universität München report that they’ve identified the
> brain mechanism responsible for tinnitus and chronic pain — the symptoms
> that can persist long after an initial injury.
>
> In an article slated to appear in the October 2015 issue of Trends in
> Cognitive Sciences, researchers explain that identifying the underlying
> problem is the first step to developing effective therapies for tinnitus
> and chronic pain. In their article, the scientists describe how the neural
> mechanisms that normally “gate” or control noise and pain signals can
> become dysfunctional, leading to a chronic perception of these sensations.
> In their study, the researchers traced the flow of these signals through
> the brain and showed where “circuit breakers” should be working, but aren’t.
>
> In both disorders, according to the research team, the brain has been
> reorganized in response to an injury in its sensory apparatus. Tinnitus can
> occur after the ears are damaged by loud noise or other issue, but even
> after the brain reorganizes itself, it continues to “hear” a constant hum
> or drum. Chronic pain can occur from an injury that often is healed
> elsewhere in the body but persists inside the brain.
>
> Josef Rauschecker, PhD, DSc, Georgetown University Medical Center wrote:
>
> “Some people call these phantom sensations, but they are real, produced by
> a brain that continues to ‘feel’ the initial injury because it cannot
> down-regulate the sensations enough,” said Josef Rauschecker, PhD, DSc,
> director of the Laboratory for Integrative Neuroscience and Cognition at
> GUMC. “Both conditions are extraordinarily common, yet no treatment gets to
> the root of these disorders.”
>
> The researchers report that areas of the brain responsible for these
> errant sensations are the nucleus accumbens, the reward and learning
> center, as well as other brain regions that serve “executive” or
> administrative roles, such as the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (VNPFC),
> and the anterior cingulate cortex. All of these areas are also important
> for evaluating and modulating emotional experiences, according to
> Rauschecker.
>
> “These areas act as a central gatekeeping system for perceptual
> sensations, which evaluate the affective meaning of sensory stimuli —
> whether produced externally or internally — and modulate information flow
> in the brain. Tinnitus and chronic pain occur when this system is
> compromised,” Rauschecker says. He notes that other issues often arise in
> concert with tinnitus and/or chronic pain, such as depression and anxiety,
> which are also modulated by the nucleus accumbens. Uncontrollable or
> long-term stress is another important factor in these symptoms.
>
> The brain plasticity that produces some of these changes provides hope
> that this gatekeeping role can be restored. Because these systems rely on
> transmission of dopamine and serotonin between neurons, drugs that modulate
> dopamine may help restore sensory gating.
>
>
> Markus Ploner, MD, PhD, TUM School of Medicine
> “Better understanding could also lead to standardized assessment of
> individuals’ risk to develop chronic tinnitus and chronic pain, which in
> turn might allow for earlier and more targeted treatment,” said Markus
> Ploner, MD, PhD, a consultant neurologist and Heisenberg Professor of Human
> Pain Research at the Technische Universität München (TUM) in Germany.
>
> Rauschecker, an expert in tinnitus, collaborated with Ploner, who studies
> chronic pai

Re: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think the "etc" is what sunk it.
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On March 13, 2018 12:27:17 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:20:02 -0500 tyee165 via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> Cracked dash, cracked and peeling wood on dash, split seats, damaged
>> grill, dirty carpets, rusty underneath etc 
>
>Jury-rigged rear exhaust hanger, rust bubbles on rear of trunk lid,
>paint chip on rear of right-front wheel well, paint damage between
>left-front wheel well and driver's door, strange wire on passenger's
>side of console, damage on dark member to the left of the driver's
>rug, driver's rug dirty and damaged, storage bins on the rears of the
>front seats sagging and stretched, damage on center of bottom cushion
>of rear seat, driveshaft tunnel rug discolored, console vent beneath
>ash tray and ash tray dirty, colored dings on passenger's map pocket,
>non-standard fasteners and dirt on inside of driver's door, leaves in
>engine compartment, rust around vehicle identification plate, factory
>rust-proofing coating damaged underneath passenger's compartment, etc.!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Crack Smokers

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"Once owned by " . makes it worth so much more BTW... who the hell
was the named owner?  And, why should I worship said owner with my wallet?

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Having served in the Washington Beltway myself, I'm sure the "steam
radiator" sound you are hearing is actually just the giant sucking sound
that comes from all the government is motion there. It is suggested a
therapy move to a remote desert island would alleviate the symptoms.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks again.  I had always thought that tinnitus meant ringing in the ears
> - a terrible affliction.  My "constant steam radiator" is actually not that
> disruptive, as the only adverse effect is diminished hearing acuity.
> Still, I don't know if this will worsen or transform over time to something
> different/worse, so I will try to find a qualified practitioner to get
> checked out and rule out any serious underlying causes.  It better not be
> diesel pollution.  ;)
>
> P.S.  I began the Dillon Experiment this morning by eliminating my massive
> daily does of vitamin B12.  We'll see what happens..
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:18 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > As G Mann wrote: The involvement of the brain is now a major interest of
> > those researching the cause and treatment of tinnitus. Following is one
> > interesting approach. Research on the cause(s) of tinnitus are
> interesting,
> > but since Andrew is probably most interested in treatment and relief, he
> > might be better off going to a clinic that specializes in treatment and
> > relief. Then, if that clinic affords no relief, he still has the option
> of
> > going to a clinic doing research on tinnitus. Of course, that is just a
> > guess since there is no way of knowing which clinic in the DC area would
> > help Andrew the most.
> > Gerry
> >
> > Neuroscientists Identify Brain Mechanism Responsible for Tinnitus,
> Chronic
> > Pain
> >
> > Neuroscientists at Georgetown University Medical Center (GUMC) and
> > Germany’s Technische Universität München report that they’ve identified
> the
> > brain mechanism responsible for tinnitus and chronic pain — the symptoms
> > that can persist long after an initial injury.
> >
> > In an article slated to appear in the October 2015 issue of Trends in
> > Cognitive Sciences, researchers explain that identifying the underlying
> > problem is the first step to developing effective therapies for tinnitus
> > and chronic pain. In their article, the scientists describe how the
> neural
> > mechanisms that normally “gate” or control noise and pain signals can
> > become dysfunctional, leading to a chronic perception of these
> sensations.
> > In their study, the researchers traced the flow of these signals through
> > the brain and showed where “circuit breakers” should be working, but
> aren’t.
> >
> > In both disorders, according to the research team, the brain has been
> > reorganized in response to an injury in its sensory apparatus. Tinnitus
> can
> > occur after the ears are damaged by loud noise or other issue, but even
> > after the brain reorganizes itself, it continues to “hear” a constant hum
> > or drum. Chronic pain can occur from an injury that often is healed
> > elsewhere in the body but persists inside the brain.
> >
> > Josef Rauschecker, PhD, DSc, Georgetown University Medical Center wrote:
> >
> > “Some people call these phantom sensations, but they are real, produced
> by
> > a brain that continues to ‘feel’ the initial injury because it cannot
> > down-regulate the sensations enough,” said Josef Rauschecker, PhD, DSc,
> > director of the Laboratory for Integrative Neuroscience and Cognition at
> > GUMC. “Both conditions are extraordinarily common, yet no treatment gets
> to
> > the root of these disorders.”
> >
> > The researchers report that areas of the brain responsible for these
> > errant sensations are the nucleus accumbens, the reward and learning
> > center, as well as other brain regions that serve “executive” or
> > administrative roles, such as the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (VNPFC),
> > and the anterior cingulate cortex. All of these areas are also important
> > for evaluating and modulating emotional experiences, according to
> > Rauschecker.
> >
> > “These areas act as a central gatekeeping system for perceptual
> > sensations, which evaluate the affective meaning of sensory stimuli —
> > whether produced externally or internally — and modulate information flow
> > in the brain. Tinnitus and chronic pain occur when this system is
> > compromised,” Rauschecker says. He notes that other issues often arise in
> > concert with tinnitus and/or chronic pain, such as depression and
> anxiety,
> > which are also modulated by the nucleus accumbens. Uncontrollable or
> > long-term stress is another important factor in these symptoms.
> >
> > The brain plasticity that produces some of these changes provides hope
> > that this gatekeeping role can be restored. Because these systems rely on
> > transmission of dopamine and serotonin between neurons, drugs that
> modulate
>

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thank you, Those are the studies I read and took notice of.  Seems to be a
promising line of investigation to the problem.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:18 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As G Mann wrote: The involvement of the brain is now a major interest of
> those researching the cause and treatment of tinnitus. Following is one
> interesting approach. Research on the cause(s) of tinnitus are interesting,
> but since Andrew is probably most interested in treatment and relief, he
> might be better off going to a clinic that specializes in treatment and
> relief. Then, if that clinic affords no relief, he still has the option of
> going to a clinic doing research on tinnitus. Of course, that is just a
> guess since there is no way of knowing which clinic in the DC area would
> help Andrew the most.
> Gerry
>
> Neuroscientists Identify Brain Mechanism Responsible for Tinnitus, Chronic
> Pain
>
> Neuroscientists at Georgetown University Medical Center (GUMC) and
> Germany’s Technische Universität München report that they’ve identified the
> brain mechanism responsible for tinnitus and chronic pain — the symptoms
> that can persist long after an initial injury.
>
> In an article slated to appear in the October 2015 issue of Trends in
> Cognitive Sciences, researchers explain that identifying the underlying
> problem is the first step to developing effective therapies for tinnitus
> and chronic pain. In their article, the scientists describe how the neural
> mechanisms that normally “gate” or control noise and pain signals can
> become dysfunctional, leading to a chronic perception of these sensations.
> In their study, the researchers traced the flow of these signals through
> the brain and showed where “circuit breakers” should be working, but aren’t.
>
> In both disorders, according to the research team, the brain has been
> reorganized in response to an injury in its sensory apparatus. Tinnitus can
> occur after the ears are damaged by loud noise or other issue, but even
> after the brain reorganizes itself, it continues to “hear” a constant hum
> or drum. Chronic pain can occur from an injury that often is healed
> elsewhere in the body but persists inside the brain.
>
> Josef Rauschecker, PhD, DSc, Georgetown University Medical Center wrote:
>
> “Some people call these phantom sensations, but they are real, produced by
> a brain that continues to ‘feel’ the initial injury because it cannot
> down-regulate the sensations enough,” said Josef Rauschecker, PhD, DSc,
> director of the Laboratory for Integrative Neuroscience and Cognition at
> GUMC. “Both conditions are extraordinarily common, yet no treatment gets to
> the root of these disorders.”
>
> The researchers report that areas of the brain responsible for these
> errant sensations are the nucleus accumbens, the reward and learning
> center, as well as other brain regions that serve “executive” or
> administrative roles, such as the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (VNPFC),
> and the anterior cingulate cortex. All of these areas are also important
> for evaluating and modulating emotional experiences, according to
> Rauschecker.
>
> “These areas act as a central gatekeeping system for perceptual
> sensations, which evaluate the affective meaning of sensory stimuli —
> whether produced externally or internally — and modulate information flow
> in the brain. Tinnitus and chronic pain occur when this system is
> compromised,” Rauschecker says. He notes that other issues often arise in
> concert with tinnitus and/or chronic pain, such as depression and anxiety,
> which are also modulated by the nucleus accumbens. Uncontrollable or
> long-term stress is another important factor in these symptoms.
>
> The brain plasticity that produces some of these changes provides hope
> that this gatekeeping role can be restored. Because these systems rely on
> transmission of dopamine and serotonin between neurons, drugs that modulate
> dopamine may help restore sensory gating.
>
>
> Markus Ploner, MD, PhD, TUM School of Medicine
> “Better understanding could also lead to standardized assessment of
> individuals’ risk to develop chronic tinnitus and chronic pain, which in
> turn might allow for earlier and more targeted treatment,” said Markus
> Ploner, MD, PhD, a consultant neurologist and Heisenberg Professor of Human
> Pain Research at the Technische Universität München (TUM) in Germany.
>
> Rauschecker, an expert in tinnitus, collaborated with Ploner, who studies
> chronic pain, during his senior fellowship at the Institute of Advanced
> Study at TUM. Co-authors include Audrey Maudoux, MD, PhD, from GUMC and
> Elisabeth May, PhD, from TUM.
>
> Source: Newswise; Trends in Cognitive Sciences; Georgetown University
> Medical Center
>
> For a related story, read this article describing a research study from
> McGill University Medical Centre that looks at the neuropathic pathways of
> pain–or, “pain in the brain.”
> ~

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 13/03/2018 10:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks again.  I had always thought that tinnitus meant ringing in the ears
- a terrible affliction.  My "constant steam radiator" is actually not that
disruptive, as the only adverse effect is diminished hearing acuity.
Still, I don't know if this will worsen or transform over time to something
different/worse, so I will try to find a qualified practitioner to get
checked out and rule out any serious underlying causes.  It better not be
diesel pollution.  ;)



Maybe you need hearing aides?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Crack Smokers

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Never heard of him so I looked him up - "an American former professional
baseball outfielder". Now that we know, who cares???

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> "Once owned by " . makes it worth so much more BTW... who the hell
> was the named owner?  And, why should I worship said owner with my wallet?
>
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> > https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300ce-
> > koenig/6478584233.html
> >
> > https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1   That giant sucking sound is all out dollars being sucked up, never 
to be seen again.


Herr Mann,  Thank you for your service.   I am glad you were able to 
escape the sucking before it consumed you also!



G Mann via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 11:18 AM
Having served in the Washington Beltway myself, I'm sure the "steam
radiator" sound you are hearing is actually just the giant sucking sound
that comes from all the government is motion there. It is suggested a
therapy move to a remote desert island would alleviate the symptoms.


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Re: [MBZ] W123 for Michael Esh or Mitch

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> Rick wrote:

> https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-mercedes-300-turbo/6526690662.html

That looks like someone got stuck with a W123 instead of the
Chrysler K-car they were dreaming of...

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Crack Smokers

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On 3/13/18 6:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300ce-koenig/6478584233.html

No pics of the engine, just the garish body work


https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-300ce/6472705813.html
You can actually get lost in the deep black shiny paint.  This vehicle 
was owned by an elderly lady that had basically quit driving but kept 
the vehicle meticulously maintained like it was part of the family. 
TRANSLATION: I bought it cheap from her estate and now I am trying to 
make8grand on the deal.






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Re: [MBZ] W123 for Michael Esh or Mitch

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Down on the southern border regions that would fetch some good money

--FT


On 3/13/18 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Is this someone's idea of a bad joke?

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:03 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-
mercedes-300-turbo/6526690662.html

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W123 for Michael Esh or Mitch

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Don't you folks recognize a customized car when you see one?

RB


On 13/03/2018 10:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Is this someone's idea of a bad joke?

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:03 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-
mercedes-300-turbo/6526690662.html

Rick
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[MBZ] Mitch-level POS ML

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2000-mercedes-ml320/6524867562.html

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[MBZ] 73 Mercedes-Benz 220D -- Once final assembly is complete car should be worth $15, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This looks like a good Poos opportunity

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/73-mercedes-benz-220d/6526765708.html

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[MBZ] 1970 Mercedes-Benz 280SL Cognac vinyl - $34529

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And perhaps most remarkably, it's still wearing its original exhaust 
system, another clue to an easy life out of the elements and in the 
hands of a very responsible and caring owner.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1970-mercedes-benz-280sl/6525641884.html

It does look quite nice though

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[MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

   1992 Mercedes Benz 300SD - $750

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-benz-300sd/6525753462.html

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Re: [MBZ] 73 Mercedes-Benz 220D -- Once final assembly is complete car should be worth $15, 000

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Love the color.  And he’s not that far off on the final price if it’s done 
right and sold on BAT.

Basket cases are bad news, though. This is a “good” basket case if there is 
such a thing.

-D

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This looks like a good Poos opportunity
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/73-mercedes-benz-220d/6526765708.html
> 
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[MBZ] Anyone need a TD hatch?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

cheepcheep, could probably get it for $25.  I might just go get it for grins

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-rear-door/6516073569.html

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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

$500 and your buddies in the barn have a stable mate.

Do it.  You know you want to.

-D

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>   1992 Mercedes Benz 300SD - $750
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-benz-300sd/6525753462.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I accept your thanks in honor of all who gave more than I did.

I was medically discharged for not being crazy enough to re-enlist again.
;)) [joking, of course]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> +1   That giant sucking sound is all out dollars being sucked up, never to
> be seen again.
>
> Herr Mann,  Thank you for your service.   I am glad you were able to
> escape the sucking before it consumed you also!
>
> G Mann via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 11:18 AM
>> Having served in the Washington Beltway myself, I'm sure the "steam
>> radiator" sound you are hearing is actually just the giant sucking sound
>> that comes from all the government is motion there. It is suggested a
>> therapy move to a remote desert island would alleviate the symptoms.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's about an hour away out in the country/hood I am thinking.  I might 
go $400 depending, start at $300...  whatever the starting issue is is 
probably something pretty simple if he drove it home. But it apparently 
is a rodbender so who knows.


Max -- you looking for a short road trip to Walterboro this weekend?

Someone stop me...

--FT


On 3/13/18 2:55 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

$500 and your buddies in the barn have a stable mate.

Do it.  You know you want to.

-D


On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:


   1992 Mercedes Benz 300SD - $750

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-benz-300sd/6525753462.html

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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You did not read the ad carefully. It is not the rod bender. It is the 
elusive 8 cylinder 300D.


RB

On 13/03/2018 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
It's about an hour away out in the country/hood I am thinking.  I 
might go $400 depending, start at $300...  whatever the starting issue 
is is probably something pretty simple if he drove it home. But it 
apparently is a rodbender so who knows.


Max -- you looking for a short road trip to Walterboro this weekend?

Someone stop me...

--FT




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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Andrew sez:

>  I began the Dillon Experiment this morning >by eliminating my massive daily 
> does of >vitamin B12.

Occasionally, I take valerian root and tryptophan before bed. That exacerbates 
the problem. 

Rick
BTW, trim your posts
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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

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I need that car. You need to go get it, then I bring a 3 car trailer down and 
haul 3 back to okieland

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's about an hour away out in the country/hood I am thinking.  I might go 
> $400 depending, start at $300...  whatever the starting issue is is probably 
> something pretty simple if he drove it home. But it apparently is a rodbender 
> so who knows.
> 
> Max -- you looking for a short road trip to Walterboro this weekend?
> 
> Someone stop me...
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 3/13/18 2:55 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> $500 and your buddies in the barn have a stable mate.
>> 
>> Do it.  You know you want to.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   1992 Mercedes Benz 300SD - $750
>>> 
>>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-benz-300sd/6525753462.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 73 Mercedes-Benz 220D -- Once final assembly is complete car should be worth $15, 000

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I think he is on crack

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Love the color.  And he’s not that far off on the final price if it’s done 
> right and sold on BAT.
> 
> Basket cases are bad news, though. This is a “good” basket case if there is 
> such a thing.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This looks like a good Poos opportunity
>> 
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/73-mercedes-benz-220d/6526765708.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Ha I think I am going to keep this E300 now that I have it running well, 
or at least try to sell it for some good money now not Okie money.  I 
need to check the GPs on it though, see what those codes are about. I 
don't need another car but it is not bad, would need a new set of tires 
if I was to drive it much.


The owner replied to my query of where it is, it is about an hour away.  
I axed him for interior pics, if I don't hear back I'll call him to try 
to go look at it the next coupla days, maybe take the trailer and some 
$$ and see what I can do.


Lawzamercy...

--FT


On 3/13/18 3:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I need that car. You need to go get it, then I bring a 3 car trailer down and 
haul 3 back to okieland

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On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

It's about an hour away out in the country/hood I am thinking.  I might go $400 
depending, start at $300...  whatever the starting issue is is probably 
something pretty simple if he drove it home. But it apparently is a rodbender 
so who knows.

Max -- you looking for a short road trip to Walterboro this weekend?

Someone stop me...

--FT



On 3/13/18 2:55 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
$500 and your buddies in the barn have a stable mate.

Do it.  You know you want to.

-D


On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
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   1992 Mercedes Benz 300SD - $750

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-benz-300sd/6525753462.html

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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Wow!  Who's o n crack?
Need!   Nope! You need it like you need another hole in the head.
Want?  maybe


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 2:17 PM
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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I passed my exam this a.m., I'm now a Certified Systems Engineering
Professional, so yah let's go junking.  I'll check with the Chairman of the
Social Committee and get back to you.

Worst case scenario we put in the engine from Wilton's 300D.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's about an hour away out in the country/hood I am thinking.  I might go
> $400 depending, start at $300...  whatever the starting issue is is
> probably something pretty simple if he drove it home. But it apparently is
> a rodbender so who knows.
>
> Max -- you looking for a short road trip to Walterboro this weekend?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] BaT Flip For Kaleb

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

"So one night we drove south to that hill overlooking the Rio Grande
and then I said "Watch this!" and in the ensuing mayhem I shot a hole in my
car trying to get my pistol out of my waistband."

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> That’s a good deal depending on what that bullet lodged in and what mayhem
> it left behind.
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:01 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just have Dimitri patch up the bullet hole.
> >
> > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300ce-
> sportline/6528377679.html
> >
> > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Crack Smokers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That "koenig" CE is about as ugly as one can make a CE.  Did they fit a
hood from a 129 on it, trying to get that Bustang look?  Hideous.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300ce-
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>
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 for Michael Esh or Mitch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

" This car drives no accidents has worn out driver seat  "

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Max
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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

True

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Who's o n crack?
> Need!   Nope! You need it like you need another hole in the head.
> Want?  maybe
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 2:17 PM
>> I need that car. You need to go get it, then I bring a 3 car trailer down 
>> and haul 3 back to okieland
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Congrats!  Time to ask for a raise?

-D


> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I passed my exam this a.m., I'm now a Certified Systems Engineering
> Professional, so yah let's go junking.  I'll check with the Chairman of the
> Social Committee and get back to you.
> 
> Worst case scenario we put in the engine from Wilton's 300D.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It's about an hour away out in the country/hood I am thinking.  I might go
>> $400 depending, start at $300...  whatever the starting issue is is
>> probably something pretty simple if he drove it home. But it apparently is
>> a rodbender so who knows.
>> 
>> Max -- you looking for a short road trip to Walterboro this weekend?
>> 
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[MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.


I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
(plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..


Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.


The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The 
distributor was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or 
possibly robbed shortly after the accident.


HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The 
spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner 
covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any 
popcorn there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine 
tomorrow, to see if I find any other clues.


When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?


The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be 
intact.  (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine 
assembled.)


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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago   They made a whole mess out of the certifications after 
2003.   Before that it was MCSE for servers/network, and MCSA for 
software dev. and MCDBA for SQL.Easily understood.


(MCSE 4.0, 2000)

Ask for a raise?  Sure.

GET a raise?Probably not without a move and a new employer.  So, the 
cost of moving negates the benefit of the raise.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:34 PM
Congrats! Time to ask for a raise?

-D





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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That is the M116 popcorn popper engine, very rare

--FT


On 3/13/18 4:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.


I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
(plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..


Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.    Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.


The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The 
distributor was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or 
possibly robbed shortly after the accident.


HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve. The 
spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner 
covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any 
popcorn there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the 
engine tomorrow, to see if I find any other clues.


When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor 
that meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?


The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be 
intact.  (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine 
assembled.)


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--FT


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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, does the engine now turn over fully?

RB


On 13/03/2018 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.


I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
(plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..


Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.    Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.


The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The 
distributor was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or 
possibly robbed shortly after the accident.


HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve. The 
spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner 
covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any 
popcorn there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the 
engine tomorrow, to see if I find any other clues.


When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor 
that meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?


The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be 
intact.  (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine 
assembled.)


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Re: [MBZ] 1970 Mercedes-Benz 280SL Cognac vinyl - $34529

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

I’m sure that’s a scam. The car pictured in that condition is 90 plus K all day 
long.

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And perhaps most remarkably, it's still wearing its original exhaust system, 
> another clue to an easy life out of the elements and in the hands of a very 
> responsible and caring owner.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1970-mercedes-benz-280sl/6525641884.html
> 
> It does look quite nice though
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it turn over 
now?

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
> 
> Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
> 
> I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
> out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
> 
> Wait for it! ...
> 
> . ..
> 
> POPCORN!
> 
> Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the left 
> bank.
> 
> The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
> out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly 
> after the accident.
> 
> HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
> 
> Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
> loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
> intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I 
> will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I 
> find any other clues.
> 
> When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
> 
> Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
> 
> The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  
> (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine assembled.)
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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As for Microsoft certs, yes, they created what we used to call the “profit 
octopus”.  In other words, how many branches can we break each discipline into 
in order to create more certifications that cost more money to obtain?

-D who has far too many certs as it is, fortunately none of them are MS ones….


> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Waytago   They made a whole mess out of the certifications after 2003.   
> Before that it was MCSE for servers/network, and MCSA for software dev. and 
> MCDBA for SQL.Easily understood.
> 
> (MCSE 4.0, 2000)
> 
> Ask for a raise?  Sure.
> 
> GET a raise?Probably not without a move and a new employer.  So, the cost 
> of moving negates the benefit of the raise.
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 3:34 PM
>> Congrats! Time to ask for a raise?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it turn 
> over now?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
>> 
>> Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
>> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
>> 
>> I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
>> (plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
>> 
>> Wait for it! ...
>> 
>> . ..
>> 
>> POPCORN!
>> 
>> Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the left 
>> bank.
>> 
>> The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor 
>> was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly 
>> after the accident.
>> 
>> HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
>> 
>> Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
>> loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
>> intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I 
>> will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I 
>> find any other clues.
>> 
>> When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
>> 
>> Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
>> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
>> 
>> The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  
>> (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine assembled.)
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Re: [MBZ] BaT Flip For Kaleb

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Good Texas etiquette requires "Hold my beer and watch this".. besides,
it's only ONE bullet hole, so has to be an "accidental discharge"
"friendly fire" sort of thing... If it was a mad Texas woman, the only
thing left without bullet holes would be one hubcap [maybe].
:))  [Don't ask me how I know these things ]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "So one night we drove south to that hill overlooking the Rio Grande
> and then I said "Watch this!" and in the ensuing mayhem I shot a hole in my
> car trying to get my pistol out of my waistband."
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That’s a good deal depending on what that bullet lodged in and what
> mayhem
> > it left behind.
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > > On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:01 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just have Dimitri patch up the bullet hole.
> > >
> > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300ce-
> > sportline/6528377679.html
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The only thing I can think of is at some point a mouse somehow dropped it in 
the intake which in turn made its way into open valves or something. 

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it turn 
>> over now?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
>>> 
>>> Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
>>> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
>>> 
>>> I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
>>> (plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
>>> 
>>> Wait for it! ...
>>> 
>>> . ..
>>> 
>>> POPCORN!
>>> 
>>> Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the left 
>>> bank.
>>> 
>>> The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor 
>>> was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed 
>>> shortly after the accident.
>>> 
>>> HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
>>> 
>>> Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The 
>>> spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner 
>>> covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn 
>>> there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, 
>>> to see if I find any other clues.
>>> 
>>> When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
>>> 
>>> Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
>>> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
>>> 
>>> The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  
>>> (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine assembled.)
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Or, maybe someone was changing plugs but a bit slowly. Took them out and 
did not put them back in for a few days and a squirrel or 2 decided to 
store some food?


RB

On 13/03/2018 3:50 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it turn over 
now?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over completely 
on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.

I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..

Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the left 
bank.

The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly after 
the accident.

HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring loaded 
"valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the intake) was 
in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I will start to pull the 
stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I find any other clues.

When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that meeses 
can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?

The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  (in 
all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine assembled.)

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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed 
popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the air 
intake?

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Greg 

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:38 PM
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Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over completely 
on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.

I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..

Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.

The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly after 
the accident.

HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I will 
start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I find 
any other clues.

When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that meeses 
can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?

The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  (in 
all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine
assembled.)

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Crack Smokers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ken Griffey Jr. is in the Hall of Fame so that adds cachet and some value,
provided you never drive the car and keep the title in his name.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 3/13/18 6:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300ce-ko
>> enig/6478584233.html
>>
> No pics of the engine, just the garish body work
>
>>
>> https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-
>> 300ce/6472705813.html
>>
> You can actually get lost in the deep black shiny paint.  This vehicle was
> owned by an elderly lady that had basically quit driving but kept the
> vehicle meticulously maintained like it was part of the family.
> TRANSLATION: I bought it cheap from her estate and now I am trying to
> make8grand on the deal.
>
>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 Mercedes-Benz 220D -- Once final assembly is complete car should be worth $15, 000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Fun weekend project.  Once done will drive another 1+ million miles.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think he is on crack
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Love the color.  And he’s not that far off on the final price if it’s
> done right and sold on BAT.
> >
> > Basket cases are bad news, though. This is a “good” basket case if there
> is such a thing.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This looks like a good Poos opportunity
> >>
> >> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/73-mercedes-benz-
> 220d/6526765708.html
> >>
> >> --
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a TD hatch?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That is stupid cheap.  Someone go get it.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> cheepcheep, could probably get it for $25.  I might just go get it for
> grins
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-rear-door/6516073569.html
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Interesting.  Maybe it's the melatonin 1 mg sublingual tablet I take nearly
every night!

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew sez:
>
> >  I began the Dillon Experiment this morning >by eliminating my massive
> daily does of >vitamin B12.
>
> Occasionally, I take valerian root and tryptophan before bed. That
> exacerbates the problem.
>
> Rick
> BTW, trim your posts
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Re: [MBZ] 73 Mercedes-Benz 220D -- Once final assembly is complete car should be worth $15, 000

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, if Andrew were to buy this and begin to put it back together, can 
you just imagine how many questions he would pose to the list?


RB

On 13/03/2018 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Fun weekend project.  Once done will drive another 1+ million miles.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I think he is on crack

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 

wrote:

Love the color.  And he’s not that far off on the final price if it’s

done right and sold on BAT.

Basket cases are bad news, though. This is a “good” basket case if there

is such a thing.

-D


On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

This looks like a good Poos opportunity

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/73-mercedes-benz-

220d/6526765708.html

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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe, or she ran it thru a popcorn factory

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed 
> popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the air 
> intake?
> 
> That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
> 
> Greg 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curley 
> McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:38 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Curley McLain
> Subject: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn
> 
> OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
> 
> Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
> 
> I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
> out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
> 
> Wait for it! ...
> 
> . ..
> 
> POPCORN!
> 
> Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
> left bank.
> 
> The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
> out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly 
> after the accident.
> 
> HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
> 
> Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
> loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
> intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I 
> will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I 
> find any other clues.
> 
> When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
> 
> Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
> 
> The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  
> (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine
> assembled.)
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Orville Redenbacher had relations with it?

https://youtu.be/XiGtFrRo5vg

-D


> On Mar 13, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe, or she ran it thru a popcorn factory
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed 
>> popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the 
>> air intake?
>> 
>> That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
>> 
>> Greg 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Maybe it was in a circus wagon

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe, or she ran it thru a popcorn factory
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed
> popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the
> air intake?
> >
> > That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curley McLain via Mercedes
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:38 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Curley McLain
> > Subject: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn
> >
> > OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
> >
> > Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over
> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
> >
> > I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes,
> (plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
> >
> > Wait for it! ...
> >
> > . ..
> >
> > POPCORN!
> >
> > Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the
> > left bank.
> >
> > The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The
> distributor was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly
> robbed shortly after the accident.
> >
> > HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
> >
> > Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The
> spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner
> covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn
> there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow,
> to see if I find any other clues.
> >
> > When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
> >
> > Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that
> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
> >
> > The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be
> intact.  (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine
> > assembled.)
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[MBZ] Kaleb Car w/a Crashbox!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://williamsport.craigslist.org/cto/6528149422.html

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car w/a Crashbox!!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Interesting. I have heard that the 300e with manny is not all that fun to 
drive. Very rare though if it’s factory. 

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> wrote:
> 
> https://williamsport.craigslist.org/cto/6528149422.html
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

It were the Aliens making atmospheric entry coming in from the Pacific.  Bright 
lights and booms in the sky at night

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Mar 12, 2018, at 5:14 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did the temporal rift over the weekend consume the sun?
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 12:08 AM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We are in a rare solar event this weekend.  The rain will return soon, so I 
>> am scrambling to pack lots of little tasks while I can.
>> 
>> Allen seems to not have parking brakes.  I thought they were there, but the 
>> pedal goes to the floor and the wheels roll with no resistance, so I tried 
>> to adjust the shoes.  No impact spinning the star.  Up on driver/down for 
>> passenger.  Maybe it will visit a shop instead of spending many hours trying 
>> to make the ($**!!*%#%) wee spring to actually hook up.  
>> 
>> That led to hooking the working antenna cable to the head unit.  Current 
>> wire was snipped off to splice into an chinese aftermarket antenna.  Had to 
>> pull up carpet, a seat, and dig into the console.  May as well hook the 
>> speakers directly to the radio instead of trying to make the fader work 
>> right.  Noise was only coming out the driver rear speaker with this unit.  
>> Now I can control media from a touch screen, plucked from PnP for $10, over 
>> installing one of the vintage Grand Prix that would fetch multiples of that 
>> investment flogged on Fleabay.  I am not trying to make this a show car.
>> 
>> While wrestling the driver seat, the power wires to the motors had to be 
>> reseated, as they fell out somehow.  The MBTex seat I installed, came minus 
>> the back, so, I needed to make holes to fit the OE panel.  That done, I had 
>> to liberate the seatbelt dock, as it had become high-centered on a bolt and 
>> would not allow the seat to be re-installed.  
>> 
>> I popped the trunk and tested the vacuum pump.  No vac holding, and pump 
>> would not power.  Will need to trace where I have a hole, so will not hook 
>> the replacement  pump to power.  Which somehow flowed to under the hood 
>> looking at the EGR.  That holds vacuum, but will not open.  I pulled out and 
>> gave it a cleaning.  Valve opened by digital manipulation, but not vacuum.  
>> Stuff It!  Put it back, at least it is clean now.
>> 
>> A side trip to the hardware store to secure some Schedule 40 to build a few 
>> stands so I can refinish the Bundt wheels I pulled from PnP.  Many $$$ later 
>> I had a square base with a set of posts along the middle side arms rising to 
>> an apex to hold the rims by the centers of the teepee.  A fast wipe down 
>> with acetone (I cleaned, filled and sanded rims last month) and I was 
>> shaking the rattle cans to prime, paint and clear the backsides of the 
>> Bundts.  It will be warmer in the morrow, so I will tackle the fronts after 
>> lunch.
>> 
>> Last task this night was to blast the console switches with contact cleaner 
>> on the off chance they needed it.  At least it could not hurt.  
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks!  Time to apply for a position that includes a raise.  I've got some 
more certifications to get over the next year, but right now I'm pretty 
competitive for moving up.  CSEP wasn't too tough, but glad it's done.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 13, 2018 4:34:46 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Congrats!  Time to ask for a raise?
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> I passed my exam this a.m., I'm now a Certified Systems Engineering
>> Professional, so yah let's go junking.  I'll check with the Chairman
>of the
>> Social Committee and get back to you.

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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks!  Yes, frequently a move is required, but there are opportunities within 
Chucktown.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 13, 2018 4:42:31 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Waytago   They made a whole mess out of the certifications after 
>2003.   Before that it was MCSE for servers/network, and MCSA for 
>software dev. and MCDBA for SQL.Easily understood.
>
>(MCSE 4.0, 2000)
>
>Ask for a raise?  Sure.
>
>GET a raise?Probably not without a move and a new employer.  So,
>the 
>cost of moving negates the benefit of the raise.

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Re: [MBZ] UH OH this could be deadly

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 19:03:52 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Thanks!  Time to apply for a position that includes a raise.  I've got
> some more certifications to get over the next year, but right now I'm
> pretty competitive for moving up.  CSEP wasn't too tough, but glad it's
> done.

Yes, congratulations!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

They tend to reduce road mess getting up on the engine, as act as a diaper for 
any leaks that may try to mark the pavement.   Lazy mechanics and body shops 
tend to lose the part when performing services as it speeds up access to the car

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Mar 12, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What's so special about belly pans?
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> If the belly pans were in place it would make it easier for the mice to
>> chew things
>> 
>> --R
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That adds at least $100 to the value of the car, after the mouse nests
>> are
>>> cleared out.
>>> 
>>> Maybe the mices chewed through the gas lines and drained the tank?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Did I mention the belly pans are still in place?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I would love to find some for the w126.  Beats finding diapers or tearing down 
the engine to solve all the leaks.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Mar 12, 2018, at 6:03 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I take mine off or just don't put them back when they get buggered. I know
> diesels sound reduction etc etc. I have 2 or 3 124 pans,around here.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Mar 12, 2018 8:56 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What's so special about belly pans?
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> If the belly pans were in place it would make it easier for the mice to
>>> chew things
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 That adds at least $100 to the value of the car, after the mouse nests
>>> are
 cleared out.
 
 Maybe the mices chewed through the gas lines and drained the tank?
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Did I mention the belly pans are still in place?

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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I forgot to mention that I got two color and clear coats on the faces of the 
bundts.  Used the wire wheel on the lug bolts to defeat the rust, and gave them 
a rust begone primer as well as color and clear.  Now all of it is living 
inside until around May so that the cure is complete before rubber is installed.

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen
 
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:43 PM, clay monroe  wrote:
> 
> It were the Aliens making atmospheric entry coming in from the Pacific.  
> Bright lights and booms in the sky at night
> 
> clay 
 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Send money!   Enough franklins, and you can own it!


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:43 PM
That is the M116 popcorn popper engine, very rare

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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

not yet.I am thinking there is popcorn holding a valve open or 
popcorn still wedged in the combustion chamber.That is why I plan to 
take the top/valley apart tomorrow.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:45 PM
So, does the engine now turn over fully?

RB



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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No.   Wanna buy a "rare popcorn popper M116?   See if you can outbid Floyd!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:46 PM
You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it 
turn over now?




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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No, I don't think that is a possibility at alll.   I did however have an 
OM603 sabotaged one time.  Made to look like mice, but it was done by 2 
legged rats.



Dimitri via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:50 PM
Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?



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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Haha!  I like that one!


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 4:00 PM
Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who 
tossed popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got 
sucked into the air intake?


That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Greg


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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Or she ran over a cub scout  delivering popcorn he sold...

Actually it is not normal yellow popcorn.  it is a small kernel popcorn 
like what we used to call cuban popcorn.  about 1/8" dia  and 1/4 to 
3/16ths long.

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 4:23 PM
Maybe, or she ran it thru a popcorn factory

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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

All the rubber probably needs to be replaced anyway. Did you blow compressed 
air into a spark plug hole, or remove plug and blow into intake?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> not yet.I am thinking there is popcorn holding a valve open or popcorn 
> still wedged in the combustion chamber.That is why I plan to take the 
> top/valley apart tomorrow.
> 
>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 3:45 PM
>> So, does the engine now turn over fully?
>> 
>> RB
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Really? 

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, I don't think that is a possibility at alll.   I did however have an 
> OM603 sabotaged one time.  Made to look like mice, but it was done by 2 
> legged rats.
> 
>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 3:50 PM
>> Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Compressed air into the plug hole.  Popcorn started popping out right away.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM
All the rubber probably needs to be replaced anyway. Did you blow 
compressed air into a spark plug hole, or remove plug and blow into 
intake?




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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Wacko idea- is it possible that it is something other than popcorn?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 13, 2018 9:09 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Compressed air into the plug hole.  Popcorn started popping out right away.
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM
>> All the rubber probably needs to be replaced anyway. Did you blow
>> compressed air into a spark plug hole, or remove plug and blow into intake?
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Did it blow out an exhaust port? Just trying to imagine this scenario. 

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Compressed air into the plug hole.  Popcorn started popping out right away.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM
>> All the rubber probably needs to be replaced anyway. Did you blow compressed 
>> air into a spark plug hole, or remove plug and blow into intake?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No, it came back out the plug hole.  I wish I had my blow gun with the 
12" tube here.   That would make blowing out the combustion chambers 
easier.  If the intake valve was open, the exhaust would be closed.


If someone wants to send me an old android smartfone, I can look inside 
with a borescope.   It has no software for ifone, so there is no way to 
turn the light on unless I can get an android.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 8:14 PM
Did it blow out an exhaust port? Just trying to imagine this scenario.


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[MBZ] Probably not for Don

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

He has a hot rod 400E now.  No need for an oldtimer to Martha

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/d/1970-mercedes-280se/6527151144.html



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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car w/a Crashbox!!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Where is the car locate, VA?
-- 
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'95 E300

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 wrote:
>https://williamsport.craigslist.org/cto/6528149422.html
>
>-D
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Re: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am not sure the market is tanking much for the classics.   If it were, there 
would be far more of them making appearances at PnP.   Somebody is holding on 
to them, or allowing them to rot in the weeds of the back 40.  The W140 is 
about the oldest in the yards at the moment.  Mostly w210 and newer up to 
whatever the 2008 models are.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:20 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Cracked dash, cracked and peeling wood on dash, split seats, damaged grill, 
> dirty carpets, rusty underneath etc 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  Date: 2018-03-12  8:04 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
> Discussion List  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Subject: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s? 
> Kind of shocked that this 300D didn't get much love.  It's green, which is
> unusual.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-mercedes-benz-300d/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-03-12
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Re: [MBZ] BaT Flip For Kaleb

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If there were a good story behind the bullet hole that would add
provenance/value.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Good Texas etiquette requires "Hold my beer and watch this".. besides,
> it's only ONE bullet hole, so has to be an "accidental discharge"
> "friendly fire" sort of thing... If it was a mad Texas woman, the only
> thing left without bullet holes would be one hubcap [maybe].
> :))  [Don't ask me how I know these things ]
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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>
> > "So one night we drove south to that hill overlooking the Rio Grande
> > and then I said "Watch this!" and in the ensuing mayhem I shot a hole in
> my
> > car trying to get my pistol out of my waistband."
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That’s a good deal depending on what that bullet lodged in and what
> > mayhem
> > > it left behind.
> > >
> > > --R
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:01 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just have Dimitri patch up the bullet hole.
> > > >
> > > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300ce-
> > > sportline/6528377679.html
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Still available from the dealers?

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 7:55 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would love to find some for the w126.  Beats finding diapers or tearing
> down the engine to solve all the leaks.
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 6:03 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I take mine off or just don't put them back when they get buggered. I
> know
> > diesels sound reduction etc etc. I have 2 or 3 124 pans,around here.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Mar 12, 2018 8:56 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What's so special about belly pans?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If the belly pans were in place it would make it easier for the mice to
> >>> chew things
> >>>
> >>> --R
> >>> Sent from iPhone
> >>>
>  On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  That adds at least $100 to the value of the car, after the mouse nests
> >>> are
>  cleared out.
> 
>  Maybe the mices chewed through the gas lines and drained the tank?
> 
>  -
>  Max
>  Charleston SC
> 
>  On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Did I mention the belly pans are still in place?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car w/a Crashbox!!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Might it be a yuro version like a taxi?

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. I have heard that the 300e with manny is not all that fun to 
> drive. Very rare though if it’s factory. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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>> 
>> https://williamsport.craigslist.org/cto/6528149422.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car w/a Crashbox!!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s possible but it looks like the rare us version 5 speed

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Might it be a yuro version like a taxi?
>  
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting. I have heard that the 300e with manny is not all that fun to 
>> drive. Very rare though if it’s factory. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> 
>>> https://williamsport.craigslist.org/cto/6528149422.html
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car w/a Crashbox!!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe a foreign diplomat imported it, then sold it stateside.  I've seen that 
before in the D.C. area.
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'95 E300

On March 13, 2018 10:38:54 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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>It’s possible but it looks like the rare us version 5 speed
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>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> wrote:
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>> Might it be a yuro version like a taxi?
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>>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting. I have heard that the 300e with manny is not all that
>fun to drive. Very rare though if it’s factory. 
>>> 
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 On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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 https://williamsport.craigslist.org/cto/6528149422.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Un-popped?  Must have been mice, stored somewhere in the intake, then sucked in 
when the engine was cranked. 
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[MBZ] OT 2000 Dodge Durango question

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Today, I bought a 2000 Dodge Durango with Carfax verified 43,000 miles on it, 
5.2 L V8 engine. I found something very interesting going on. It will not crank 
at all unless the light switch is turned one click to the right, just before 
the position to turn on the lights. I have never heard of this happening 
before. It is as if the starter circuit has been wired into the light switch.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR  

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Re: [MBZ] OT 2000 Dodge Durango question

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Anti- theft measure?  Some aftermarket bodge?

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
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> Today, I bought a 2000 Dodge Durango with Carfax verified 43,000 miles on it, 
> 5.2 L V8 engine. I found something very interesting going on. It will not 
> crank at all unless the light switch is turned one click to the right, just 
> before the position to turn on the lights. I have never heard of this 
> happening before. It is as if the starter circuit has been wired into the 
> light switch.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR  
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Re: [MBZ] OT 2000 Dodge Durango question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

On crypsler 300s when you turn the steering to the right, the RF window 
goes down.   Could be some similar gremlin.   Could be something screwed 
up in the steering column wiring.  (light dimmer crossed with starter 
wire?)  bad insulation?
Starter/trans lockout crossed with light low/high (dimmer) in the column 
or underdash or in the console?



Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 10:30 PM
Today, I bought a 2000 Dodge Durango with Carfax verified 43,000 miles 
on it, 5.2 L V8 engine. I found something very interesting going on. 
It will not crank at all unless the light switch is turned one click 
to the right, just before the position to turn on the lights. I have 
never heard of this happening before. It is as if the starter circuit 
has been wired into the light switch.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

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