date:20200328

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/michigans-democrat-governor-threatens-all-doctors-and-pharmacists-who-prescribe-or-dispense-hydroxychloroquine-for-coronavirus/

So why would governors refuse to let people use it?


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[MBZ] Editorial: Giving the Right Name to the Virus Causing a Worldwide Pandemic

https://www.theepochtimes.com/giving-the-right-name-to-the-virus-causing-a-worldwide-pandemic-2_3277200.html

There has been controversy recently about what to call the virus that has
unleashed a worldwide pandemic. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) prefers
“novel coronavirus.” Others have referred to it as the “Wuhan virus,”
after its place of origin, as is common in naming diseases.

The Epoch Times suggests a more accurate name is the “CCP virus,” and
calls upon others to join us in adopting this name.

The name holds the CCP accountable for its wanton disregard of human life
and consequent spawning of a pandemic that has put untold numbers in
countries around the world at risk, while creating widespread fear and
devastating the economies of nations trying to cope with this disease.

(continued on the webpage)



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[MBZ] Beer virus

https://www.chicksonright.com/blog/2020/03/28/medical-detection-dogs-being-trained-to-sniff-out-coronavirus/

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[MBZ] Idiot or crack head?

86 Mercedes 560sel

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/wichita-falls-86-mercedes-560sel/7100239651.html


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[MBZ] 606 turbo wagon


https://slo.craigslist.org/pts/d/paso-robles-w124-wagon-om606-turbo/7093931750.html


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Re: [MBZ] So is somebody going to buy this or what?


Tight ass.

On 3/28/2020 7:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

4 times more than I pay

--FT
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On Mar 28, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/222908762264846/


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Hamburgers

Wimpy!

There was something about Wimpy that I was always kinda creeped out about

--FT
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> On Mar 28, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Try this:
> 
> http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 
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Re: [MBZ] So is somebody going to buy this or what?

4 times more than I pay

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/222908762264846/
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/222908762264846/


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Re: [MBZ] Kitchen cabinets

If you have to ask, you can't afford them ...

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> At some point in the future I might be looking to replace the kitchen
> cabinets.  How much might a decent quality replacements cost?
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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

This:

https://www.harborfreight.com/30-amp-automotive-fuse-circuit-tester-67724.html 


I’ve got one. Works great!

-D



> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess I have not see this meter you are talking about at HF. Got a link?
> 
> On 3/28/2020 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> The ideal way to do a parasitic draw test is with an ammeter in line between 
>> the negative battery post and the negative battery cable.
>> 
>> Hook everything up, roll the windows down, open the hood and let the car sit 
>> for maybe 15-30 minutes, as some electronic systems won’t “sleep” right 
>> away. Once the time has passed, have a helper watch the ammeter and while 
>> doing so, remove fuses in the fusebox one at a time to see if the current 
>> changes. When it does, you’ll have identified the circuit and potentially 
>> the device or system that’s causing the draw.
>> 
>> Harbor Fright has a fancy ammeter with a blade fuse plug on it that you can 
>> use as well, which eliminates the need to put an ammeter inline at the 
>> battery. That is, if you have a car that uses blade fuses. Your 2005 Honda 
>> most likely does.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Jerry Herrman via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is a parasitic draw test  a procedure that can be applied to any car? Today
>>> I discovered that the  2005 Honda Odyssey, which had been parked unused for
>>> the last three weeks or so, has a totally dead one year old Bosch battery.
>>> It took a charge so I left it on the charger for a few hours. It works now.
>>> The only "parasitic draw test" I know is disconnecting the negative cable
>>> and then touching that negative cable to the battery post, checking to see
>>> if there is a spark. There was a tiny spark, indicating that electricity is
>>> being drawn from something. What should I know about parasitic draw at this
>>> point in order to proceed?
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> 82 240D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Kitchen cabinets

Lots of variables. You can go online and look at what some of the OTA and 
assembled cabinets cost to get an idea. My old kitchen was pretty basic, a 
short “L” with wall cabinets on the short side of the “L”, base cabinets under 
the whole thing and a long wall opposite with the oven and microwave in the 
middle and equally spaced cabinets on either side, both wall and base. That was 
about $10k out the door at Lowes with good quality Kitchen Maid, I think.

Not installed, either.

If you go with the OTA online ones, those are the ones that you assemble, 
you’re probably looking at the same thing for around or slightly under $5k. A 
lot depends on the cabinet style and finish, too.

Spend an hour and measure, then go online to any one of the bajillion kitchen 
cabinet sellers online and spec it out.

-D

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> At some point in the future I might be looking to replace the kitchen 
> cabinets.  How much might a decent quality replacements cost?
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[MBZ] OT - Hamburgers

Try this:

http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Kitchen cabinets

2020-03-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

> ...replace the kitchen cabinets.  How much might decent quality replacements 
> cost?

How much you got?  <>

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

2020-03-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

The test lamp as shown is excellent on older gear, but the computer-controlled
stuff is trickier.  Also, even a 20mA parasitic draw is enough to cause 
problems,
but not really enough to make light.  My favorite technique remains to loosen 
the
ground clamp, stab the center of the post with one ammeter probe, and then pinch
the other probe against the clamp while lifting the clamp up over the probe.  
Briefly,
just long enough to take a reading, then push the clamp back onto the post.  
Repeat
as required.

That way power is never interrupted, and so no surge exists to damage
the ammeter's fuse or throw off the readings.  (My Fluke's fuse is something
like $10.  Each.)  And, the surge-ing electronics never has a voltage drop 
during
its startup, which could confuse it and cause spurious problems.  Or even,
more permanent problems.

If you have one of those inline battery knife switches, you can put it in
place and wire up the ammeter more solidly.  Then just open the
switch to take a reading, then close the switch.  Easy, quick, safe,
and reliable.  That's what we did back in school.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Kitchen cabinets

At some point in the future I might be looking to replace the kitchen 
cabinets.  How much might a decent quality replacements cost?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Hamburgers


uhhh ok

On 3/28/2020 2:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

You’re showing your age if you get this.



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Re: [MBZ] SPAM RE: OT - Hamburgers

As usual, my picture didn’t post. I’ll send a link to it in a bit.

-D

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Where's the beef?
> 
> G
> 
> -Original Message-
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> via Mercedes
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> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Hamburgers
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> You’re showing your age if you get this.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

I’ll get it for you in a bit. Gotta make dinner.

-D

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess I have not see this meter you are talking about at HF. Got a link?
> 
> On 3/28/2020 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> The ideal way to do a parasitic draw test is with an ammeter in line between 
>> the negative battery post and the negative battery cable.
>> 
>> Hook everything up, roll the windows down, open the hood and let the car sit 
>> for maybe 15-30 minutes, as some electronic systems won’t “sleep” right 
>> away. Once the time has passed, have a helper watch the ammeter and while 
>> doing so, remove fuses in the fusebox one at a time to see if the current 
>> changes. When it does, you’ll have identified the circuit and potentially 
>> the device or system that’s causing the draw.
>> 
>> Harbor Fright has a fancy ammeter with a blade fuse plug on it that you can 
>> use as well, which eliminates the need to put an ammeter inline at the 
>> battery. That is, if you have a car that uses blade fuses. Your 2005 Honda 
>> most likely does.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Jerry Herrman via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is a parasitic draw test  a procedure that can be applied to any car? Today
>>> I discovered that the  2005 Honda Odyssey, which had been parked unused for
>>> the last three weeks or so, has a totally dead one year old Bosch battery.
>>> It took a charge so I left it on the charger for a few hours. It works now.
>>> The only "parasitic draw test" I know is disconnecting the negative cable
>>> and then touching that negative cable to the battery post, checking to see
>>> if there is a spark. There was a tiny spark, indicating that electricity is
>>> being drawn from something. What should I know about parasitic draw at this
>>> point in order to proceed?
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> 82 240D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw


I guess I have not see this meter you are talking about at HF. Got a link?

On 3/28/2020 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Jerry,

The ideal way to do a parasitic draw test is with an ammeter in line between 
the negative battery post and the negative battery cable.

Hook everything up, roll the windows down, open the hood and let the car sit 
for maybe 15-30 minutes, as some electronic systems won’t “sleep” right away. 
Once the time has passed, have a helper watch the ammeter and while doing so, 
remove fuses in the fusebox one at a time to see if the current changes. When 
it does, you’ll have identified the circuit and potentially the device or 
system that’s causing the draw.

Harbor Fright has a fancy ammeter with a blade fuse plug on it that you can use 
as well, which eliminates the need to put an ammeter inline at the battery. 
That is, if you have a car that uses blade fuses. Your 2005 Honda most likely 
does.

-D


On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Jerry Herrman via Mercedes  
wrote:

Is a parasitic draw test  a procedure that can be applied to any car? Today
I discovered that the  2005 Honda Odyssey, which had been parked unused for
the last three weeks or so, has a totally dead one year old Bosch battery.
It took a charge so I left it on the charger for a few hours. It works now.
The only "parasitic draw test" I know is disconnecting the negative cable
and then touching that negative cable to the battery post, checking to see
if there is a spark. There was a tiny spark, indicating that electricity is
being drawn from something. What should I know about parasitic draw at this
point in order to proceed?

Jerry

82 240D



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Re: [MBZ] Success

Oh this was the $600E320  

Doing on the car is probably easiest then. 

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> On Mar 28, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve never done it any other way.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh so you can do it while the diff is on the car?  I guess I should look up 
>> the procedure but I doubt if I'm going to do it any time soon.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 3/28/20 4:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> New fluid can help, too. Additives that make the seals swell and/or remain 
>>> pliable were probably long gone from the fluid that was in it.
>>> 
>>> Pinion seals aren’t hard to do, it’s more of a PITA to drop the drive shaft 
>>> to get to them.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Changed out the diff fluid on the $600E300. Was nasty. Was not hard to get 
 the plugs out. Looks like the pinion seal is leaking. Looks like a PITA to 
 get the diff dropped and out so I think I’ll just live with it. Diff 
 seemed to be fairly full so I guess not too much has leaked.
 
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Re: [MBZ] SPAM RE: OT - Hamburgers

2020-03-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes


NO BEEF!   NO MERCEDES. THIS GARBAGE DOES NOT BELONG HERE!


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
March 28, 2020 at 4:30 PM
Where's the beef?

G


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[MBZ] SPAM RE: OT - Hamburgers

2020-03-28 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

Where's the beef?

G

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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:24 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] OT - Hamburgers

You’re showing your age if you get this.



-D
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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 16:48:34 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> This is all good info EXCEPT:  These new cars always draw a tiny
> current to keep the computers alive.  But more than that, when power is
> first connected (after being disconnected) the computers run through
> some kind of power-on diagnostics that consume significant (less than
> an amp) current.  You need to wait until the computers go back to sleep
> to see if there is really a parasitic current drain.

That can be solved by disconnecting the ground lead, connecting the test
lamp, shorting the test lamp for the 30 minutes Dan suggested, and then
unshorting the test lamp.


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Re: [MBZ] Success

I’ve never done it any other way.

-D



> On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh so you can do it while the diff is on the car?  I guess I should look up 
> the procedure but I doubt if I'm going to do it any time soon.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 3/28/20 4:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> New fluid can help, too. Additives that make the seals swell and/or remain 
>> pliable were probably long gone from the fluid that was in it.
>> 
>> Pinion seals aren’t hard to do, it’s more of a PITA to drop the drive shaft 
>> to get to them.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Changed out the diff fluid on the $600E300. Was nasty. Was not hard to get 
>>> the plugs out. Looks like the pinion seal is leaking. Looks like a PITA to 
>>> get the diff dropped and out so I think I’ll just live with it. Diff seemed 
>>> to be fairly full so I guess not too much has leaked.
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

Exactly. Hence my direction to connect everything then wait 15-30 minutes for 
the computers to settle down.

-D


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is all good info EXCEPT:  These new cars always draw a tiny current to
> keep the computers alive.  But more than that, when power is first connected
> (after being disconnected) the computers run through some kind of power-on
> diagnostics that consume significant (less than an amp) current.  You need
> to wait until the computers go back to sleep to see if there is really a
> parasitic current drain.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Craig via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 4:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Craig 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw
> 
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:02:14 -0700 Jerry Herrman via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Is a parasitic draw test a procedure that can be applied to any car?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
>> The only "parasitic draw test" I know is disconnecting the negative 
>> cable and then touching that negative cable to the battery post, 
>> checking to see if there is a spark. There was a tiny spark, 
>> indicating that electricity is being drawn from something. What should 
>> I know about parasitic draw at this point in order to proceed?
> 
> Put a test light in series with the ground lead of the battery as shown in
> the attached picture. Then start pulling fuses until the light goes out.
> 
> You can see what connects to each fuse from the car's schematic and start
> eliminating each item which might cause the drain.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - COVID 19 Stuff/Non-political

Thanks, Karl.

He self isolates pretty well, so that’s not an issue. He didn’t present with 
any respiratory issues. If he has what the wife brought home, it’s not so much 
diarrhea as things are just really loose. That’s why I was saying I was 
surprised that all of the known stuff I threw at it seemed to have little to no 
effect. It’s just gradually gotten more normal over a week’s time.

We’ll keep a close eye, for sure. Again, thank you!

Dan

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It could easily be covid 19 unfortunately. Diarrhea is one of the known
> presenting symptoms in a significant minority of patients. Of course it
> could be tens of other viruses or bacteria also.
> 
> The doc probably doesnt have any access to a test for non hospitalized
> patients. That is changing rapidly, but we are still not at that level of
> test availability. So thay have no way to rule out covid 19.
> 
> You can get one forecast for hospital bed shortages here. Florida peaks
> later I think:
> 
> https://covid19.healthdata.org/?fbclid=IwAR22wuagEnK_CIc2Httm1vTDRU8LAE7QQK6wNlq4McYnbqOt3CFk5vp5Mao
> 
> Either way chicken soup, sleep and keep a weather eye out in 5-7 days if he
> isnt looking right. Significant shortness of breath is about the only
> reason to go to an ER.
> 
> That's the tough part of this thing - variable presentation. Many people
> seem to not get super sick at all, and the ones who do have a variety of
> symptoms. Might not be a bad idea to isolate him from you if he has any
> respiratory stuff at all.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 11:18 AM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:54:48 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Mom was kind enough to bring something like this into the house
>>> recently, which I’ve been dealing with as well. No fever, but
>>> definitely tearing up the lower GI. Nothing, I mean nothing, has
>>> affected the symptoms. Yogurt, cheese, anything that would normally
>>> slow or stop things up has absolutely no effect.
>> 
>> When Shirley was a Registered Dietitian, she used the A-B-C diet of
>> applesauce, bananas, and cottage cheese on the hospital floor.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Max's COVID-19 vs H1N1 update

2020-03-28 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

Yeah. Flu is no joke either. But its rate of hospitalizing people does not
compare. The main difference is that many people are already immune to
h1n1, so they dont all show up to the ER at the same time, also because
h1n1 is less contagious. And covid 19 hospitalizes 20% of the people it
infects, roughly, which flu does not do. So it is spreading fast into to a
population with no herd immunity, and making a bunch of them pretty sick.

 See my reply to Dan for a link to the estimated ICU bed shortage state by
state, estimated deaths etc. They project 81k deaths for the country as a
whole IIRC for this epidemic over a few months. But NY is short thousands
of ICU beds and hospital beds, because it hits faster there, whereas
CLifonia put distancing in place earlier, so it peaks more slowly and we
remain within our bed capacity mostly. It will still be ugly here and we
still dont have n95 masks for ourselves or our residents dealing with these
patients. (The critical care people doing all the intubations get first
dibs on the n95s). But NYC is in for a truly terrible couple of weeks
coming up. Just terrible. Models are just estimates but it looks like they
are already piling up bodies in refrigerated containers outside the
hospital.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 9:43 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Time for another update.
>
> Then and now:
>
> H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
> approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
> hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306)
> occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.
>
> COVID-19 As of today, 28 March:  ~106,000 cases, ~1700 deaths.
>
> Plain Old Flu as killed ~22,000 Americans this season, estimated to top out
> around 30,000.
>
> Try to keep perspective folks!
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:32 AM Meade Dillon  wrote:
>
> > Then and now:
> >
> > H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
> > approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
> > hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306)
> > occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.
> >
> > COVID-19 As of today:  ~9400 cases, ~150 deaths.
> >
> > Plain Old Flu as killed ~20,000 Americans this season, estimated to top
> > out around 30,000.
> >
> > Draw your own conclusions.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

2020-03-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

This is all good info EXCEPT:  These new cars always draw a tiny current to
keep the computers alive.  But more than that, when power is first connected
(after being disconnected) the computers run through some kind of power-on
diagnostics that consume significant (less than an amp) current.  You need
to wait until the computers go back to sleep to see if there is really a
parasitic current drain.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Craig via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 4:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Craig 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:02:14 -0700 Jerry Herrman via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Is a parasitic draw test a procedure that can be applied to any car?

Yes.

> The only "parasitic draw test" I know is disconnecting the negative 
> cable and then touching that negative cable to the battery post, 
> checking to see if there is a spark. There was a tiny spark, 
> indicating that electricity is being drawn from something. What should 
> I know about parasitic draw at this point in order to proceed?

Put a test light in series with the ground lead of the battery as shown in
the attached picture. Then start pulling fuses until the light goes out.

You can see what connects to each fuse from the car's schematic and start
eliminating each item which might cause the drain.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - COVID 19 Stuff/Non-political

Yeah 2 weeks ago that podcast said some patients were presenting with GI
symptoms, which could also be another vector for infection of others.

--FT

On 3/28/20 4:36 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

It could easily be covid 19 unfortunately. Diarrhea is one of the known
presenting symptoms in a significant minority of patients. Of course it
could be tens of other viruses or bacteria also.

The doc probably doesnt have any access to a test for non hospitalized
patients. That is changing rapidly, but we are still not at that level of
test availability. So thay have no way to rule out covid 19.

You can get one forecast for hospital bed shortages here. Florida peaks
later I think:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/?fbclid=IwAR22wuagEnK_CIc2Httm1vTDRU8LAE7QQK6wNlq4McYnbqOt3CFk5vp5Mao

Either way chicken soup, sleep and keep a weather eye out in 5-7 days if he
isnt looking right. Significant shortness of breath is about the only
reason to go to an ER.

That's the tough part of this thing - variable presentation. Many people
seem to not get super sick at all, and the ones who do have a variety of
symptoms. Might not be a bad idea to isolate him from you if he has any
respiratory stuff at all.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 11:18 AM Craig via Mercedes
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:54:48 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:

Mom was kind enough to bring something like this into the house
recently, which I’ve been dealing with as well. No fever, but
definitely tearing up the lower GI. Nothing, I mean nothing, has
affected the symptoms. Yogurt, cheese, anything that would normally
slow or stop things up has absolutely no effect.

When Shirley was a Registered Dietitian, she used the A-B-C diet of
applesauce, bananas, and cottage cheese on the hospital floor.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - COVID 19 Stuff/Non-political

2020-03-28 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

It could easily be covid 19 unfortunately. Diarrhea is one of the known
presenting symptoms in a significant minority of patients. Of course it
could be tens of other viruses or bacteria also.

The doc probably doesnt have any access to a test for non hospitalized
patients. That is changing rapidly, but we are still not at that level of
test availability. So thay have no way to rule out covid 19.

You can get one forecast for hospital bed shortages here. Florida peaks
later I think:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/?fbclid=IwAR22wuagEnK_CIc2Httm1vTDRU8LAE7QQK6wNlq4McYnbqOt3CFk5vp5Mao

Either way chicken soup, sleep and keep a weather eye out in 5-7 days if he
isnt looking right. Significant shortness of breath is about the only
reason to go to an ER.

That's the tough part of this thing - variable presentation. Many people
seem to not get super sick at all, and the ones who do have a variety of
symptoms. Might not be a bad idea to isolate him from you if he has any
respiratory stuff at all.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 11:18 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:54:48 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Mom was kind enough to bring something like this into the house
> > recently, which I’ve been dealing with as well. No fever, but
> > definitely tearing up the lower GI. Nothing, I mean nothing, has
> > affected the symptoms. Yogurt, cheese, anything that would normally
> > slow or stop things up has absolutely no effect.
>
> When Shirley was a Registered Dietitian, she used the A-B-C diet of
> applesauce, bananas, and cottage cheese on the hospital floor.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

Brilliant.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:24 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:02:14 -0700 Jerry Herrman via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Is a parasitic draw test a procedure that can be applied to any car?
>
> Yes.
>
>
> > The only "parasitic draw test" I know is disconnecting the negative
> > cable and then touching that negative cable to the battery post,
> > checking to see if there is a spark. There was a tiny spark, indicating
> > that electricity is being drawn from something. What should I know
> > about parasitic draw at this point in order to proceed?
>
> Put a test light in series with the ground lead of the battery as shown in
> the attached picture. Then start pulling fuses until the light goes out.
>
> You can see what connects to each fuse from the car's schematic and start
> eliminating each item which might cause the drain.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Hamburgers

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 15:23:33 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You’re showing your age if you get this.
> 
> 
> 
> -D

Seeing how there is nothing but your title, one sentence, three blank
lines, and you signature, there appears to be nothing to get.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Success

Oh so you can do it while the diff is on the car?  I guess I should look 
up the procedure but I doubt if I'm going to do it any time soon.


--FT

On 3/28/20 4:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

New fluid can help, too. Additives that make the seals swell and/or remain 
pliable were probably long gone from the fluid that was in it.

Pinion seals aren’t hard to do, it’s more of a PITA to drop the drive shaft to 
get to them.

-D


On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Changed out the diff fluid on the $600E300. Was nasty. Was not hard to get the 
plugs out. Looks like the pinion seal is leaking. Looks like a PITA to get the 
diff dropped and out so I think I’ll just live with it. Diff seemed to be 
fairly full so I guess not too much has leaked.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] ANY OFFER OVER 12K IS REASONABLE

16

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> How old is she?  Our 15 y.o. neutered male has lost his rear leg support and 
> can't make it to his litter box w/o assistance.  Otherwise, his heart is 
> healthy and all blood tests are within norms.  We're taking him to a neuro 
> who will in all likelihood tell us he needs an MRI to make an accurate 
> diagnosis.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:06 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Mine is probably going in to get nucleated (radioiodine treatment) in a 
> couple of weeks to fix her hypothyroidism. We have to collect her litter and 
> hold it for 60 days afterwards before disposing of it, or it could trigger 
> the nuke alarms in the trash system.
> 
> At least she’ll be able to see well in the dark for a while.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > I can't afford to take the chance.  My cat may need an MRI.
> > 
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 3:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >> Someone==Andrew
> >> 
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ANY OFFER OVER 12K IS REASONABLE

How old is she?  Our 15 y.o. neutered male has lost his rear leg support
and can't make it to his litter box w/o assistance.  Otherwise, his heart
is healthy and all blood tests are within norms.  We're taking him to a
neuro who will in all likelihood tell us he needs an MRI to make an
accurate diagnosis.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:06 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mine is probably going in to get nucleated (radioiodine treatment) in a
> couple of weeks to fix her hypothyroidism. We have to collect her litter
> and hold it for 60 days afterwards before disposing of it, or it could
> trigger the nuke alarms in the trash system.
>
> At least she’ll be able to see well in the dark for a while.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can't afford to take the chance.  My cat may need an MRI.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 3:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Someone==Andrew
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] ANY OFFER OVER 12K IS REASONABLE

Mine is probably going in to get nucleated (radioiodine treatment) in a couple 
of weeks to fix her hypothyroidism. We have to collect her litter and hold it 
for 60 days afterwards before disposing of it, or it could trigger the nuke 
alarms in the trash system.

At least she’ll be able to see well in the dark for a while.

-D

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can't afford to take the chance.  My cat may need an MRI.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 3:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Someone==Andrew
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Success

New fluid can help, too. Additives that make the seals swell and/or remain 
pliable were probably long gone from the fluid that was in it.

Pinion seals aren’t hard to do, it’s more of a PITA to drop the drive shaft to 
get to them.

-D

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Changed out the diff fluid on the $600E300. Was nasty. Was not hard to get 
> the plugs out. Looks like the pinion seal is leaking. Looks like a PITA to 
> get the diff dropped and out so I think I’ll just live with it. Diff seemed 
> to be fairly full so I guess not too much has leaked. 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S Ponton on BAT

Sold for $30k.  Unbelievable.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't mind the  current colour either. The orignal blue was not
> horrible either.
>
> RB
>
> On 27/03/2020 3:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Engine compartment on these was always black, I believe. That’s why it’s
> tough to tell the color change if it was done well, and this one appeared
> to be. I like the current colour myself.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Mar 27, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Didn't see that. I was guessing based upon the colour of the inner
> fenders in the photos showing the engine. Maybe back then they were not the
> same colour as the car.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >> On 27/03/2020 12:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> " Originally finished in light blue (334)"
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] ANY OFFER OVER 12K IS REASONABLE

I can't afford to take the chance.  My cat may need an MRI.

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> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Someone needs to offer the seller exactly $12K but not 1 cent more.  On
> > Wednesday, April 1.
> >
> >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:47 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Holy smokes that is a pretty nice and well loaded SDL, not at that price
> >> though.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Rural crack pipe smoker:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >> <
> >>
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[MBZ] Success

Changed out the diff fluid on the $600E300. Was nasty. Was not hard to get the 
plugs out. Looks like the pinion seal is leaking. Looks like a PITA to get the 
diff dropped and out so I think I’ll just live with it. Diff seemed to be 
fairly full so I guess not too much has leaked. 

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Re: [MBZ] ANY OFFER OVER 12K IS REASONABLE

Someone==Andrew

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> On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Someone needs to offer the seller exactly $12K but not 1 cent more.  On
> Wednesday, April 1.
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:47 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Holy smokes that is a pretty nice and well loaded SDL, not at that price
>> though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rural crack pipe smoker:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/d/ocala-mercedes-300-sdl-mpg/7085337137.html
>> <
>> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/d/ocala-mercedes-300-sdl-mpg/7085337137.html
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Re: [MBZ] Not all OT I don't get this thing with these Eyetalyun cars

I had a cup holder like that on my former 300TD.  Worked OK but not ideal.

Too bad about the cracked console wood.  Otherwise, nice interior.  We used
to call the exterior color nickel green.

I suspect this car will get close to but not exceed $10K when the auction
ends.

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> Is it me, or is the ad copy poorly done?
>
> "Work performed in 2019 is said to have included the installation of
> replacement engine and subframe mounts,…”
>
> Do I interpret that as a replacement engine, and subframe mounts, or
> replacement of engine and subframe mounts?
>
> Wow. The BaT folks really need to use an AP style book or something.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:54 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, this one is nice! You should get it!
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:30 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-mercedes-benz-560sec-23/
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] L 60 -- STOP ME!!!!

The Mercedes dealerships around here offer no warranty whatsoever for cars
that are 6 - 10 years old.  Not even 30 days.  Not even 30'.

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> I think you REALLY need that car!
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
> > I could get it delivered for free!  And a $1000 match on my downpayment!
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3456954941011462
> >
> > 2002 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class CL 600
> >
> > $3,995
> >
> >
> >   About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Driven 97,884 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> > Exterior color: Silver · Interior color:
> > VIN: WDBPJ78J42A025660
> > Fuel type: Gasoline
> >
> >
> >   Seller's description…
> >
> > In response to this terrbile outbreak Driveline is doing everything we
> > can to help the people and to make sure economy doesnt stop. We will
> > remain open for business under special and strict rules. No direct
> > contact, (sorry cant shake hands and hug or kiss you any more) all deals
> > can be done on line and via email, fax, mail and E-Signatures and if you
> > do come in person, we will desinfect everything before and after you, so
> > dont be offended. DELIVERY WILL BE FREE WITHIN 500 MILES. To help our
> > customers and to boost the economy, we will match your down payment up
> > to $1,000 toward your down payment on ANY vehicle on our lot. In
> > addition to that we will add 3 month warranty on every car that
> > qualifies to put you at ease. Extended warranties are available. Please
> > share and let people know this and to apply please go to
> > WWW.DRIVELINELLC.COM$0 DOWN for anyone with decent credit trough
> > Capital OneThank you guys for amazing 11 years of support and
> > love, good luck and God Bless each and every one of you.
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Re: [MBZ] HOW DID I MISS THIS????

Must have been damaged by an uninhibited bunch of Y2K partygoers
celebrating the End of Civilization.  Prematurely.

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> Yeah I noticed that.  Probably not hard to fix but it could be a
> feature! Stanced!
>
> --FT
>
> On 3/28/20 11:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I would be more concerned with the stance in the rear suspension. That’s
> sitting really low. I wonder if they kept the SLS?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 28, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is just too much going on here with the woodwork
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3610849185624366
> >>
> >> 1988 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL Limo
> >> $12,000
> >> Dealership· Listed 7 weeks ago in Daytona Beach, FL <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/112957898718013/>
> >>
> >>
> >> About This Vehicle…
> >>
> >> Driven 59,000 miles
> >> Automatic transmission
> >> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
> >> VIN: WDBCA39D7JA415313
> >> Fuel type: Gasoline
> >>
> >>
> >> Seller's description…
> >>
> >> Awesome Mercedes Benz 560SEL Custom Stretch Limo.
> >>
> >> --
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[MBZ] OT - Hamburgers

You’re showing your age if you get this.



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Re: [MBZ] TP

What’s the big deal? I buy firewood from these guys:

https://youtu.be/TBb9O-aW4zI 

-D

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Re: [MBZ] who likes green. bright green.

Rare color but it has quite a few bruises.  This wholesale dealership is
selling mostly cats and dogs.

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2899188963453804
>
> 2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class
>
> $3,375
>
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Re: [MBZ] Parasitic Draw

Jerry,

The ideal way to do a parasitic draw test is with an ammeter in line between 
the negative battery post and the negative battery cable.

Hook everything up, roll the windows down, open the hood and let the car sit 
for maybe 15-30 minutes, as some electronic systems won’t “sleep” right away. 
Once the time has passed, have a helper watch the ammeter and while doing so, 
remove fuses in the fusebox one at a time to see if the current changes. When 
it does, you’ll have identified the circuit and potentially the device or 
system that’s causing the draw.

Harbor Fright has a fancy ammeter with a blade fuse plug on it that you can use 
as well, which eliminates the need to put an ammeter inline at the battery. 
That is, if you have a car that uses blade fuses. Your 2005 Honda most likely 
does.

-D

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> 
> Is a parasitic draw test  a procedure that can be applied to any car? Today
> I discovered that the  2005 Honda Odyssey, which had been parked unused for
> the last three weeks or so, has a totally dead one year old Bosch battery.
> It took a charge so I left it on the charger for a few hours. It works now.
> The only "parasitic draw test" I know is disconnecting the negative cable
> and then touching that negative cable to the battery post, checking to see
> if there is a spark. There was a tiny spark, indicating that electricity is
> being drawn from something. What should I know about parasitic draw at this
> point in order to proceed?
> 
> Jerry
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[MBZ] Parasitic Draw

2020-03-28 Thread Jerry Herrman via Mercedes

Is a parasitic draw test  a procedure that can be applied to any car? Today
I discovered that the  2005 Honda Odyssey, which had been parked unused for
the last three weeks or so, has a totally dead one year old Bosch battery.
It took a charge so I left it on the charger for a few hours. It works now.
The only "parasitic draw test" I know is disconnecting the negative cable
and then touching that negative cable to the battery post, checking to see
if there is a spark. There was a tiny spark, indicating that electricity is
being drawn from something. What should I know about parasitic draw at this
point in order to proceed?

Jerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weekly market trip

ROFL.

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Re: [MBZ] ANY OFFER OVER 12K IS REASONABLE

Someone needs to offer the seller exactly $12K but not 1 cent more.  On
Wednesday, April 1.

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> though.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > Rural crack pipe smoker:
> >
> >
> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/d/ocala-mercedes-300-sdl-mpg/7085337137.html
> <
> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/d/ocala-mercedes-300-sdl-mpg/7085337137.html
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[MBZ] Aborted landing

https://www.facebook.com/inflightvideo/videos/478719459701364/?vh=e=n


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Re: [MBZ] OT - COVID 19 Stuff/Non-political

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:54:48 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Mom was kind enough to bring something like this into the house
> recently, which I’ve been dealing with as well. No fever, but
> definitely tearing up the lower GI. Nothing, I mean nothing, has
> affected the symptoms. Yogurt, cheese, anything that would normally
> slow or stop things up has absolutely no effect.

When Shirley was a Registered Dietitian, she used the A-B-C diet of
applesauce, bananas, and cottage cheese on the hospital floor.


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[MBZ] TP

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be=vRlBtabKRFM

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Re: [MBZ] Not all OT I don't get this thing with these Eyetalyun cars

Is it me, or is the ad copy poorly done?

"Work performed in 2019 is said to have included the installation of 
replacement engine and subframe mounts,…”

Do I interpret that as a replacement engine, and subframe mounts, or 
replacement of engine and subframe mounts?

Wow. The BaT folks really need to use an AP style book or something.

-D


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> wrote:
> 
> Wow, this one is nice! You should get it!
> 
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:30 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-mercedes-benz-560sec-23/
>> 
>> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Not all OT I don't get this thing with these Eyetalyun cars

Wow, this one is nice! You should get it!

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>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-mercedes-benz-560sec-23/
>
>
-- 
OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher

No, it's potassium ions and such that bind to the oxygen in the area of the
fire. I still don't understand how it can do that and still be no problem
to breathe. Like a flair, you can't turn it off once you start it, unlike a
traditional fire extinguisher, which is why (besides the price) I won't be
getting one.

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> I wonder if the primary product isn't carbon dioxide or some other inert
> gas that displaces the oxygen.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] L 60 -- STOP ME!!!!

I think you REALLY need that car!

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I could get it delivered for free!  And a $1000 match on my downpayment!
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3456954941011462
>
> 2002 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class CL 600
>
> $3,995
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 97,884 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color:
> VIN: WDBPJ78J42A025660
> Fuel type: Gasoline
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> In response to this terrbile outbreak Driveline is doing everything we
> can to help the people and to make sure economy doesnt stop. We will
> remain open for business under special and strict rules. No direct
> contact, (sorry cant shake hands and hug or kiss you any more) all deals
> can be done on line and via email, fax, mail and E-Signatures and if you
> do come in person, we will desinfect everything before and after you, so
> dont be offended. DELIVERY WILL BE FREE WITHIN 500 MILES. To help our
> customers and to boost the economy, we will match your down payment up
> to $1,000 toward your down payment on ANY vehicle on our lot. In
> addition to that we will add 3 month warranty on every car that
> qualifies to put you at ease. Extended warranties are available. Please
> share and let people know this and to apply please go to
> WWW.DRIVELINELLC.COM$0 DOWN for anyone with decent credit trough
> Capital OneThank you guys for amazing 11 years of support and
> love, good luck and God Bless each and every one of you.
>
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[MBZ] Max's COVID-19 vs H1N1 update

Time for another update.

Then and now:

H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306)
occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.

COVID-19 As of today, 28 March:  ~106,000 cases, ~1700 deaths.

Plain Old Flu as killed ~22,000 Americans this season, estimated to top out
around 30,000.

Try to keep perspective folks!

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:32 AM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Then and now:
>
> H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
> approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
> hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306)
> occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.
>
> COVID-19 As of today:  ~9400 cases, ~150 deaths.
>
> Plain Old Flu as killed ~20,000 Americans this season, estimated to top
> out around 30,000.
>
> Draw your own conclusions.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Not all OT I don't get this thing with these Eyetalyun cars

I guess if you're a rich guy you just buy one and look at it.  If I was 
a rich guy I would buy one (or all) of these and drive it into the 
ground, then buy another one.


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-ferrari-458-italia-5

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-ferrari-f355-spider-16/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2009-ferrari-f430-scuderia-3/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-ferrari-348-9/

This one is pretty cool too

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-lamborghini-islero/

But this is total class but the paint looks funky and the interior is gross

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-mercedes-benz-300sel-6-3-11/

but this one is nicer

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-mercedes-benz-560sec-23/

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Re: [MBZ] HOW DID I MISS THIS????

Yeah I noticed that.  Probably not hard to fix but it could be a 
feature! Stanced!


--FT

On 3/28/20 11:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I would be more concerned with the stance in the rear suspension. That’s 
sitting really low. I wonder if they kept the SLS?

-D



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 wrote:

There is just too much going on here with the woodwork

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3610849185624366

1988 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL Limo
$12,000
Dealership· Listed 7 weeks ago in Daytona Beach, FL 



About This Vehicle…

Driven 59,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
VIN: WDBCA39D7JA415313
Fuel type: Gasoline


Seller's description…

Awesome Mercedes Benz 560SEL Custom Stretch Limo.

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Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher

I wonder if the primary product isn't carbon dioxide or some other inert
gas that displaces the oxygen.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 12:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s what I was thinking. It sure looks like one when they use it. There
> was some mention of the chemical(s) used in it on their web site.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It's a flare, essentially, is it not?  One that spews anti-combustants
> > of some form.
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT - COVID 19 Stuff/Non-political

Glad to hear it is not COVID-19!

Lesson to us all, not a good time to share any health concerns with other
than a healthcare professional or family, lest someone go off half cocked.

Sad stories about traveling nurses being kicked out of leases because
landlords are afraid of contagion.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:55 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This hit really close to home:
>
> Youngest boy comes home from work last night, looking a bit peaked and
> feeling poorly, said he had a fever. Hmm. Not good. Checks his temperature,
> sure enough, he’s got a mild fever. Says his gut has been a mess as the day
> went on, with his lower GI going berserk.
>
> Mom was kind enough to bring something like this into the house recently,
> which I’ve been dealing with as well. No fever, but definitely tearing up
> the lower GI. Nothing, I mean nothing, has affected the symptoms. Yogurt,
> cheese, anything that would normally slow or stop things up has absolutely
> no effect.
>
> So anyway, once we hear the symptoms we breathe a sigh of relief and send
> him off to his room.
>
> About an hour later, he comes out to me at the computer and he’s all
> worked up. Seems that he shared his concerns about his symptoms/health with
> a coworker that day. The coworker, a poorly educated rural Bubba type, goes
> home and tells his equally clueless wife. She has a major meltdown and
> calls a County commissioner, at home, and rants about the employees
> spreading CV19 all over the place and the County doing nothing to prevent
> it.
>
> So now youngest son is like the chicken that got caught in the tractor’s
> nuts, to quote Slim Pickens.
>
> I tell him to not worry, he’s not going to lose his job, and that with
> everyone on edge this is just one of what will probably be many meltdowns
> that will occur over the next few weeks. Hardly calming, but at this point
> there’s not a lot he can do. He was planning on going to the doctor this
> morning to get checked out anyway.
>
> So he goes to the doctor this morning. Stomach bug, doc tells him. No
> cure, it has to run it’s course. He gets a “get out of jail free” statement
> from the doc and sends it to his supervisor so he can return to work
> tomorrow.
>
> Crisis averted. Oy.
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher

That’s what I was thinking. It sure looks like one when they use it. There was 
some mention of the chemical(s) used in it on their web site.

-D


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It's a flare, essentially, is it not?  One that spews anti-combustants
> of some form.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher

2020-03-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

It's a flare, essentially, is it not?  One that spews anti-combustants
of some form.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher

Agreed. However, if you’ve ever dealt with the aftermath of a dry powder 
extinguisher being used, it’s something to consider. That stuff is super 
corrosive and will destroy softer metals like aluminum the minute there’s any 
moisture present.

-D

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks like it takes at least one more step to activate than a traditional
> fire extinguisher.
> 
> Also takes 2 seconds after completing the activation process before the
> extinguisher is ready to go.
> 
> Lastly, in the video, the "fireman" had to get REALLY close to the fire to
> put it out.
> 
> Although it is intriguing, I think I'll keep my traditional extinguishers.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:47 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Ran across this just now:
>> 
>> https://elementfire.com/
>> 
>> A new type of fire extinguisher which is up to 80% smaller than a
>> traditional fire extinguisher and has 5 times the discharge time.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher

Looks like it takes at least one more step to activate than a traditional
fire extinguisher.

Also takes 2 seconds after completing the activation process before the
extinguisher is ready to go.

Lastly, in the video, the "fireman" had to get REALLY close to the fire to
put it out.

Although it is intriguing, I think I'll keep my traditional extinguishers.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:47 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Ran across this just now:
>
> https://elementfire.com/
>
> A new type of fire extinguisher which is up to 80% smaller than a
> traditional fire extinguisher and has 5 times the discharge time.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] HOW DID I MISS THIS????

I would be more concerned with the stance in the rear suspension. That’s 
sitting really low. I wonder if they kept the SLS?

-D


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is just too much going on here with the woodwork
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3610849185624366
> 
> 1988 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL Limo
> $12,000
> Dealership· Listed 7 weeks ago in Daytona Beach, FL 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 59,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
> VIN: WDBCA39D7JA415313
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> Awesome Mercedes Benz 560SEL Custom Stretch Limo.
> 
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[MBZ] OT - COVID 19 Stuff/Non-political

This hit really close to home:

Youngest boy comes home from work last night, looking a bit peaked and feeling 
poorly, said he had a fever. Hmm. Not good. Checks his temperature, sure 
enough, he’s got a mild fever. Says his gut has been a mess as the day went on, 
with his lower GI going berserk.

Mom was kind enough to bring something like this into the house recently, which 
I’ve been dealing with as well. No fever, but definitely tearing up the lower 
GI. Nothing, I mean nothing, has affected the symptoms. Yogurt, cheese, 
anything that would normally slow or stop things up has absolutely no effect.

So anyway, once we hear the symptoms we breathe a sigh of relief and send him 
off to his room.

About an hour later, he comes out to me at the computer and he’s all worked up. 
Seems that he shared his concerns about his symptoms/health with a coworker 
that day. The coworker, a poorly educated rural Bubba type, goes home and tells 
his equally clueless wife. She has a major meltdown and calls a County 
commissioner, at home, and rants about the employees spreading CV19 all over 
the place and the County doing nothing to prevent it.

So now youngest son is like the chicken that got caught in the tractor’s nuts, 
to quote Slim Pickens.

I tell him to not worry, he’s not going to lose his job, and that with everyone 
on edge this is just one of what will probably be many meltdowns that will 
occur over the next few weeks. Hardly calming, but at this point there’s not a 
lot he can do. He was planning on going to the doctor this morning to get 
checked out anyway.

So he goes to the doctor this morning. Stomach bug, doc tells him. No cure, it 
has to run it’s course. He gets a “get out of jail free” statement from the doc 
and sends it to his supervisor so he can return to work tomorrow.

Crisis averted. Oy.

-D

 
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[MBZ] who likes green. bright green.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2899188963453804

2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class

$3,375

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[MBZ] HOW DID I MISS THIS????


There is just too much going on here with the woodwork

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3610849185624366

1988 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL Limo
$12,000
Dealership· Listed 7 weeks ago in Daytona Beach, FL 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 59,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
VIN: WDBCA39D7JA415313
Fuel type: Gasoline


 Seller's description…

Awesome Mercedes Benz 560SEL Custom Stretch Limo.

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Re: [MBZ] One for Dwight

We need to get King John to do it. He’s big into the renaissance fair stuff, or 
used to be.

-D


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:52 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Nope, it was hilarious!
> 
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:09 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’ll do that as soon as I finish walking around the neighborhood in my
>> renaissance costume pushing my wheelbarrow and yelling, “Bring out your
>> dead!”
>> 
>> Ooops. Sorry. Was that tasteless?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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> Von Braun
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[MBZ] 1996 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D,$2,000


Only one pic, low miles, doesn't look too bad


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/222908762264846

1996 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D
$2,000
Vehicles 
Listed 18 hours ago in Loris, SC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 132,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Beige
Fuel type: Diesel
24.0 MPG city · 32.0 MPG highway · 27.0 MPG combined
Good condition 


 Typical Features…

 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   6-Cyl, Diesel, 3.0 Liter
 *
   ABS (4-Wheel)
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *


 Seller's description…

1996 Mercedes Benz E300 Diesel. Two owner. Great fuel mileage

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[MBZ] L 60 -- STOP ME!!!!


I could get it delivered for free!  And a $1000 match on my downpayment!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3456954941011462

2002 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class CL 600

$3,995


 About This Vehicle…

Driven 97,884 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver · Interior color:
VIN: WDBPJ78J42A025660
Fuel type: Gasoline


 Seller's description…

In response to this terrbile outbreak Driveline is doing everything we 
can to help the people and to make sure economy doesnt stop. We will 
remain open for business under special and strict rules. No direct 
contact, (sorry cant shake hands and hug or kiss you any more) all deals 
can be done on line and via email, fax, mail and E-Signatures and if you 
do come in person, we will desinfect everything before and after you, so 
dont be offended. DELIVERY WILL BE FREE WITHIN 500 MILES. To help our 
customers and to boost the economy, we will match your down payment up 
to $1,000 toward your down payment on ANY vehicle on our lot. In 
addition to that we will add 3 month warranty on every car that 
qualifies to put you at ease. Extended warranties are available. Please 
share and let people know this and to apply please go to 
WWW.DRIVELINELLC.COM$0 DOWN for anyone with decent credit trough 
Capital OneThank you guys for amazing 11 years of support and 
love, good luck and God Bless each and every one of you.


--
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Re: [MBZ] 123 CDs and index -- LINK

2020-03-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

I think Dave M is hosting a copy to download Steve Nervig's index.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Mar 28, 2020 10:54:27 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Go here then on the right tab Others -- Service Library Index
> 
> http://mercedeslist.com/
> 
> On 3/28/20 10:50 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> 
> > Maybe the index isn't in here. Search for it, a guy made a front end > for 
> > the CDs that makes stuff easier to find
> > 
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dydOFCtsx_56Qk1QauU36cn7JdchtwxM
> > 
> > 
> -- --FT
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Re: [MBZ] One for Dwight


STOP You're giving me ideas

--FT

On 3/28/20 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’ll do that as soon as I finish walking around the neighborhood in my 
renaissance costume pushing my wheelbarrow and yelling, “Bring out your dead!”

Ooops. Sorry. Was that tasteless?

-D


On Mar 28, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Poos needs to go check it out for us while being socially distant.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


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Could be a rusty pile of crap.

Sent from my iPhone


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Here’s your chance, Dwight!

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/altamonte-springs-1980-mercedes-300cd/7099799141.html
 


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[MBZ] Escape COVID-19 with a new CAR!!!!! - $6500 (SAVANNAH)


ABOVE IS CASH PRICE, FINANCING IS PRICE AVAILABLE

https://savannah.craigslist.org/ctd/d/savannah-escape-covid-19-with-new-car/7099770128.html

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz CLK 430 Convertible - $2500 (Thunderbolt)


With lightning it is very very frightening

--FT

On 3/27/20 4:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I was wondering the same, and would have cared if it wasn’t a Crap class.

-D




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 wrote:

What does "Thunderbolt" refer to?

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:01 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


No mention of whether the top works.  Could be an interesting deal, not
many pics but looks half nice


https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-mercedes-benz-clk-430/7099334211.html

V-8 convertible black 158,000 miles. Good condition, runs great, fast
and reliable. Never been wrecked, straight body. Great car, many good
miles left, looks great, fun to drive, great on hwy. Call Mark @ show
contact info
<
https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-mercedes-benz-clk-430/7099334211.html#
. New rag top, AMG wheels, AMG ground effects.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 CDs and index -- LINK


Go here then on the right tab Others -- Service Library Index

http://mercedeslist.com/

On 3/28/20 10:50 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
Maybe the index isn't in here.  Search for it, a guy made a front end 
for the CDs that makes stuff easier to find


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dydOFCtsx_56Qk1QauU36cn7JdchtwxM


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tampa COVID cases after spring break

2020-03-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

 I agree and its why I had to quit listening to Terry Gross which is too bad, 
at one point I considered her one of the best interviewers around. Since Trump 
got elected she can't help but weave him into every conversation. Also now all 
her guests are people I either don't care about or can't stand.
Instead I've moved on to "The Art of Manliness Podcast". Brett has an 
interesting cross section of people and asks good questions. Generally speaking 
the ones I think I'll like the least are the ones I'm most interested in...

-Curt

On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 3:18:10 AM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 Hear, hear.  Respectful discourse seems rare these days.  We see name-calling 
instead of a rational discussion of ideas.  I used to enjoy the Diane Rehm show 
on NPR (even though I seldom agreed with the host or network) because the 
discussion was generally civil even if biased.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> 
> FWIW I agree with Dimitri. As long as a post is marked as OT, everyone is free
> to employ the delete key. We are all wy past kindergarten. I do not find
> Curley's OR Andrew's posts offensive, even if I often disagree.
> 
> The USA would be a better place if we all were more tolerant of others'
> political views. When a significant portion of the population considers
> something important, we all should respect that position. Kinda hard
> sometimes, when the points of view are opposed, like the 2 sides on abortion.
> Yet there must be compromise!
> 
> Greg

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Re: [MBZ] One for Dwight

Nope, it was hilarious!

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> I’ll do that as soon as I finish walking around the neighborhood in my
> renaissance costume pushing my wheelbarrow and yelling, “Bring out your
> dead!”
>
> Ooops. Sorry. Was that tasteless?
>
> -D
>

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weekly market trip

2020-03-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes


THIS IS GARBAGE!

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[MBZ] 123 CDs and index

Maybe the index isn't in here.  Search for it, a guy made a front end 
for the CDs that makes stuff easier to find


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dydOFCtsx_56Qk1QauU36cn7JdchtwxM

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Re: [MBZ] Look at the Miles!

That's only 15,333 miles per year, not much more than the average.

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> Car looks good from the one photo, but no other photos or details. Yes
> miles could be real.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Coud that be true?
> >
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/saint-petersburg-mercedes-300-sdl-turbo/7097990388.html
> <
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/saint-petersburg-mercedes-300-sdl-turbo/7097990388.html
> >
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Diesel Engine Workshop Manual

The factory manuals are available to download for free all over the internet. 

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> While changing out the engine on the 240D I plan on replacing some 
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> Haynes manual which is helpful but doesn’t cover many areas. What manual is 
> recommended  for working on the W123 diesel cars.  Does anyone have one they 
> would like sell?
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weekly market trip

2020-03-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

 If you can't tell almond milk from the real thing you've got no tastebuds...
-Curt

On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 12:14:09 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Trader Joe's sells some pretty awesome macadamia and almond milk. Can't
tell it from half and half with a fraction of the calories.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 10:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Almond, soy, oat, coconut milk all work
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I fear I may be developing a resistance to lactose.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weekly market trip

2020-03-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

 My mother-in-law is lactose intolerant while also having gut issues that would 
be helped by eating yogurt so I've been working my way through the non-lactose 
yogurts at the co-op to test them out.
So far the clear winner is cashew. Most of the yogurts are super sweet and 
non-lactose ones are even worse. The cashew isn't as sweet and has just a hint 
of nutty taste underneath, a real winner.
The biggest loser so far has be almond, way too sweet and a strange chemical 
flavor I can't explain, disgusting.
-Curt

On Friday, March 27, 2020, 10:51:28 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Almond, soy, oat, coconut milk all work 

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> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I fear I may be developing a resistance to lactose.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Diesel Engine Workshop Manual

I can send you a link to the MB 123 shop manuals, I put it up on a 
google drive


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On 3/28/20 10:25 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:

While changing out the engine on the 240D I plan on replacing some components 
and adjusting, refurbishing and cleaning others.  I have the Haynes manual 
which is helpful but doesn’t cover many areas. What manual is recommended  for 
working on the W123 diesel cars.  Does anyone have one they would like sell?
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Diesel Engine Workshop Manual

2020-03-28 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes

Thanks Dan!

Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I believe you can find the W123 factory manuals online here:
> 
> https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/program/matrix6.htm 
> 
> 
> https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/matrix6.htm 
> 
> 
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> While changing out the engine on the 240D I plan on replacing some 
>> components and adjusting, refurbishing and cleaning others.  I have the 
>> Haynes manual which is helpful but doesn’t cover many areas. What manual is 
>> recommended  for working on the W123 diesel cars.  Does anyone have one they 
>> would like sell?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Diesel Engine Workshop Manual

Mike,

I believe you can find the W123 factory manuals online here:

https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/program/matrix6.htm 


https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/matrix6.htm 



-D

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> While changing out the engine on the 240D I plan on replacing some components 
> and adjusting, refurbishing and cleaning others.  I have the Haynes manual 
> which is helpful but doesn’t cover many areas. What manual is recommended  
> for working on the W123 diesel cars.  Does anyone have one they would like 
> sell?
> Thanks,
> Mike
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[MBZ] W123 Diesel Engine Workshop Manual

2020-03-28 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes

While changing out the engine on the 240D I plan on replacing some components 
and adjusting, refurbishing and cleaning others.  I have the Haynes manual 
which is helpful but doesn’t cover many areas. What manual is recommended  for 
working on the W123 diesel cars.  Does anyone have one they would like sell?
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Re: [MBZ] One for Dwight

I’ll do that as soon as I finish walking around the neighborhood in my 
renaissance costume pushing my wheelbarrow and yelling, “Bring out your dead!”

Ooops. Sorry. Was that tasteless?

-D

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Poos needs to go check it out for us while being socially distant. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Could be a rusty pile of crap. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here’s your chance, Dwight!
>>> 
>>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/altamonte-springs-1980-mercedes-300cd/7099799141.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] One for Dwight

Poos needs to go check it out for us while being socially distant. 

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> Could be a rusty pile of crap. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>> Here’s your chance, Dwight!
>> 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/altamonte-springs-1980-mercedes-300cd/7099799141.html
>>  
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Re: [MBZ] ANY OFFER OVER 12K IS REASONABLE

Holy smokes that is a pretty nice and well loaded SDL, not at that price 
though. 

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> Rural crack pipe smoker:
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> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/d/ocala-mercedes-300-sdl-mpg/7085337137.html 
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Re: [MBZ] One for Dwight

Could be a rusty pile of crap. 

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Re: [MBZ] Look at the Miles!

Car looks good from the one photo, but no other photos or details. Yes miles 
could be real. 

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> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/saint-petersburg-mercedes-300-sdl-turbo/7097990388.html
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