Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q XIII

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ouch!  Been there done that, but the emergency room doctor fixed me up.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Sep 4, 2020 3:00:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes :

> But but  but I worked so hard to get the 300D 2.5 ready on time! I even got a 
> metal shard in my eye from grinding rust which I had to have removed by an 
> ophthalmologist today!
> 
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>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We have postponed this year's Q originally scheduled for Sept 12. Let's
>> hope the world is safer by next May and we can have a spring Q.
>> It has been a tough decision but this seems advisable in our current world.
>> Stay tuned as we might figure out a virtual Q.
>> 
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> 1982 300CD
>> 2005 E320 4Matic
>> Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Chewed up trip

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Never found one of those I cared for, at least one that did a decent job. I’ve 
used bulk sprayers for painting houses, however, and that’s definitely the way 
to go.

-D

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Don't forget an airless sprayer to paint all that trim!
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Sep 4, 2020 9:07:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> The title is supposed to be chewed up TRIM
>> 
>> I got a small pancake air compressor but not a nail gun
>> 
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>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, plus an air nailer, maybe an air compressor if you don't have that.
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Sep 4, 2020 7:46:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
>>> 
 Since the renters pit bulls chewed up a crap load of trim in the house, it 
 really needs to be replaced. I suppose this means I’m going to have to go 
 to HF and buy a miter saw?
 
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[MBZ] 1969 *Mercedes* *406* *D* ** *FULLY* RESTORED DIESEL! - $24, 900 (Mercedes 406 D)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I want it I need it

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/statesville-1969-mercedes-406-fully/7190613311.html

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[MBZ] Wow. 48.9kmi 1993 Mercedes-Benz 600 SEL - $17, 000 (charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks brand new

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-1993-mercedes-benz-600-sel/7190485274.html

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[MBZ] looks fairly nice needs work 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 450 SL - $2, 900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/d/toccoa-1979-mercedes-benz-450-sl/7190156637.html

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[MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

And in order to drive it you can’t shave for 3 days

And if you ride in the back you have to look like Nancy Pelosi 

https://youtu.be/-4zsY28t76k

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Re: [MBZ] Wow. 48.9kmi 1993 Mercedes-Benz 600 SEL - $17, 000 (charlotte)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

A BATworthy car at a BATworthy price?
Mitch

On Sat, September 5, 2020 11:13 am, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> Looks brand new
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-1993-mercedes-benz-600-s
> el/7190485274.html


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Re: [MBZ] 1969 *Mercedes* *406* *D* ** *FULLY* RESTORED DIESEL! - $24, 900 (Mercedes 406 D)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

What a hauler.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 11:11 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I want it I need it
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/statesville-1969-mercedes-406-fully/7190613311.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1969 *Mercedes* *406* *D* ** *FULLY* RESTORED DIESEL! - $24, 900 (Mercedes 406 D)

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Why is the listing still up, and the truck isn't in your driveway yet?

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 10:11 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I want it I need it
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/statesville-1969-mercedes-406-fully/7190613311.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1969 *Mercedes* *406* *D* ** *FULLY* RESTORED DIESEL! - $24, 900 (Mercedes 406 D)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Should do 50mph easy. Maybe.


Dwight Giles via Mercedes  writes:

> What a hauler.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 11:11 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I want it I need it
>>
>>
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/statesville-1969-mercedes-406-fully/7190613311.html
>>
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[MBZ] Pergo

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have spent 2 days trying to lay this pergo crap. First row went in fine but 
2nd and 3rd row did not want to lock in properly. You knock one side in and the 
other side would pop loose. I ripped it all back up and came to the conclusion 
I must have some high spots causing it. Ended up sanding down the joints 
between subfloor pieces that seemed to be creating high spots. Filled in some 
low spots with leveling compound. Have to wait for it to dry and hopefully 
tomorrow it goes it easier. Last time I put this stuff in it went pretty 
easily. 


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Re: [MBZ] Pergo

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Last time I installed pergo (didn't actually do it myself) it was not
snap lock but tongue and groove that had to be glued.

I have installed the snap lock stuff in other brands. If you don't have
one, there is a little tool, a plastic block block with a ridge on it
that can help with hammering/tapping the pieces together without
damaging them. Should be available at Lowes, etc. in the flooring dept.

Level floor is important also, so not effort wasted if you had high and
low spots.

Are you using an underlayment?

Allan


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> I have spent 2 days trying to lay this pergo crap. First row went in
> fine but 2nd and 3rd row did not want to lock in properly. You knock
> one side in and the other side would pop loose. I ripped it all back
> up and came to the conclusion I must have some high spots causing
> it. Ended up sanding down the joints between subfloor pieces that
> seemed to be creating high spots. Filled in some low spots with
> leveling compound. Have to wait for it to dry and hopefully tomorrow
> it goes it easier. Last time I put this stuff in it went pretty
> easily.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Pergo

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 12:36:17 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Filled in some low spots with leveling compound.

The self-leveling compound is definitely very helpful.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Pergo or Paint?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’d rather do floors than paint, which is what I”m doing today to avoid going 
outside.

Our back (pool) bath was used by the PO’s daughter when she was a teenager. 
It’s pained (badly) in some weird “seafoam” color with (get ready) glitter 
glued on the walls using a stencil. That is, think about putting a stenciled 
design about 8” x 8” randomly all over the walls. With the stencing taped to 
the wall, you wipe white glue and over it and then toss a handful of glitter at 
it, then lift the stencil off and let things dry. At least that’s how I think 
they did what’s there.

We probably spent a couple hours using drywall compound sanding sheets, the 
open weave sort of stuff, to level off the drywall and get as much of the glue 
off the walls without damaging the drywall. Then I went over every one of them 
with a couple of coats of Kilz, then hit each with spray texture to match the 
original texture.  I will say that the cans of spray texture, while not cheap, 
do a heck of a job blending things once you get the hang of it.

So now I’m having to paint the walls. Finally. The last room of the house 
(besides the kitchen) that needed paint.

Beats going outside, though.

-D

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have spent 2 days trying to lay this pergo crap. First row went in fine but 
> 2nd and 3rd row did not want to lock in properly. You knock one side in and 
> the other side would pop loose. I ripped it all back up and came to the 
> conclusion I must have some high spots causing it. Ended up sanding down the 
> joints between subfloor pieces that seemed to be creating high spots. Filled 
> in some low spots with leveling compound. Have to wait for it to dry and 
> hopefully tomorrow it goes it easier. Last time I put this stuff in it went 
> pretty easily. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pergo or Paint?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Sounds nasty.  What kind of texture goes on walls?  I would just 
skimcoat over it all and start fresh if it has nasty mess on it like that


--FT

On 9/5/20 2:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’d rather do floors than paint, which is what I”m doing today to avoid going 
outside.

Our back (pool) bath was used by the PO’s daughter when she was a teenager. 
It’s pained (badly) in some weird “seafoam” color with (get ready) glitter 
glued on the walls using a stencil. That is, think about putting a stenciled 
design about 8” x 8” randomly all over the walls. With the stencing taped to 
the wall, you wipe white glue and over it and then toss a handful of glitter at 
it, then lift the stencil off and let things dry. At least that’s how I think 
they did what’s there.

We probably spent a couple hours using drywall compound sanding sheets, the 
open weave sort of stuff, to level off the drywall and get as much of the glue 
off the walls without damaging the drywall. Then I went over every one of them 
with a couple of coats of Kilz, then hit each with spray texture to match the 
original texture.  I will say that the cans of spray texture, while not cheap, 
do a heck of a job blending things once you get the hang of it.

So now I’m having to paint the walls. Finally. The last room of the house 
(besides the kitchen) that needed paint.

Beats going outside, though.

-D


On Sep 5, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

I have spent 2 days trying to lay this pergo crap. First row went in fine but 
2nd and 3rd row did not want to lock in properly. You knock one side in and the 
other side would pop loose. I ripped it all back up and came to the conclusion 
I must have some high spots causing it. Ended up sanding down the joints 
between subfloor pieces that seemed to be creating high spots. Filled in some 
low spots with leveling compound. Have to wait for it to dry and hopefully 
tomorrow it goes it easier. Last time I put this stuff in it went pretty easily.


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Re: [MBZ] Pergo or Paint?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Commonly used in newer construction, spray texture is used to hide the lousy 
drywall work.

-D

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds nasty.  What kind of texture goes on walls?  I would just skimcoat 
> over it all and start fresh if it has nasty mess on it like that
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 9/5/20 2:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’d rather do floors than paint, which is what I”m doing today to avoid 
>> going outside.
>> 
>> Our back (pool) bath was used by the PO’s daughter when she was a teenager. 
>> It’s pained (badly) in some weird “seafoam” color with (get ready) glitter 
>> glued on the walls using a stencil. That is, think about putting a stenciled 
>> design about 8” x 8” randomly all over the walls. With the stencing taped to 
>> the wall, you wipe white glue and over it and then toss a handful of glitter 
>> at it, then lift the stencil off and let things dry. At least that’s how I 
>> think they did what’s there.
>> 
>> We probably spent a couple hours using drywall compound sanding sheets, the 
>> open weave sort of stuff, to level off the drywall and get as much of the 
>> glue off the walls without damaging the drywall. Then I went over every one 
>> of them with a couple of coats of Kilz, then hit each with spray texture to 
>> match the original texture.  I will say that the cans of spray texture, 
>> while not cheap, do a heck of a job blending things once you get the hang of 
>> it.
>> 
>> So now I’m having to paint the walls. Finally. The last room of the house 
>> (besides the kitchen) that needed paint.
>> 
>> Beats going outside, though.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have spent 2 days trying to lay this pergo crap. First row went in fine 
>>> but 2nd and 3rd row did not want to lock in properly. You knock one side in 
>>> and the other side would pop loose. I ripped it all back up and came to the 
>>> conclusion I must have some high spots causing it. Ended up sanding down 
>>> the joints between subfloor pieces that seemed to be creating high spots. 
>>> Filled in some low spots with leveling compound. Have to wait for it to dry 
>>> and hopefully tomorrow it goes it easier. Last time I put this stuff in it 
>>> went pretty easily.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic: "Brake Service...Visit Workshop" message

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan!  It does have SBC.  I am going to the dealer next week to have the 
message reset.  Hopefully I didn't do any harm because I didn't disable it 
before bleeding the system. Bob


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Cc: Dan Penoff 
Sent: Fri, Sep 4, 2020 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic: "Brake Service...Visit Workshop" 
message

If it has SBC you’ve got to go to the dealer and have it reset. Not sure if a 
2004 has SBC, though. It’s also quite dangerous to work on brakes on a car 
equipped with SBC if you don’t disconnect the system or disable it using SDS.

-D

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> 
> Hi All,
> I just did a complete brake job on my 2004 Mercedes E320 4Matic.rotors, 
> pads, brake sensors and flush.  After the job was finished I now have the 
> message "Brake Service! - Visit Workshop"  
> Some research indicates I should have used a scan tool during the brake flush 
> because of the ABS and that may have caused the error.  
> Any advice on how to reset the message?  Do I need to have the system flushed 
>  again using the scan tool?
> Thanks,Bob
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic: "Brake Service...Visit Workshop" message

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Bob,

You most likely didn’t hurt anything. However, SBC systems can activate without 
warning, and quite forcefully, which is why you never want to work on a car 
with SBC without disconnecting the SBC unit. They can cause pretty serious 
injury if it goes off while you’re working on the brakes.

-D

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Robert Koziak  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan!  It does have SBC.  I am going to the dealer next week to have 
> the message reset.  Hopefully I didn't do any harm because I didn't disable 
> it before bleeding the system. 
> Bob
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Sent: Fri, Sep 4, 2020 8:36 pm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic: "Brake Service...Visit 
> Workshop" message
> 
> If it has SBC you’ve got to go to the dealer and have it reset. Not sure if a 
> 2004 has SBC, though. It’s also quite dangerous to work on brakes on a car 
> equipped with SBC if you don’t disconnect the system or disable it using SDS.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Sep 4, 2020, at 8:24 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > I just did a complete brake job on my 2004 Mercedes E320 4Matic.rotors, 
> > pads, brake sensors and flush.  After the job was finished I now have the 
> > message "Brake Service! - Visit Workshop"  
> > Some research indicates I should have used a scan tool during the brake 
> > flush because of the ABS and that may have caused the error.  
> > Any advice on how to reset the message?  Do I need to have the system 
> > flushed  again using the scan tool?
> > Thanks,Bob
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

One of the main things I like about the classic (123/124/126 pre 90s) models is 
they avoided unnecessary complication.  For example, the passenger-side mirror 
was electric but not the driver side because you can reach to adjust it 
manually.  They are maintainable and also indefinitely repairable (if parts 
available) unless they rust out.

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Subject: [MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

And in order to drive it you can’t shave for 3 days

And if you ride in the back you have to look like Nancy Pelosi 

https://youtu.be/-4zsY28t76k

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Pergo

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I do have the little tap block as well as the metal pull hook tool thing. Yes 
using underlayment 

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> On Sep 5, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Last time I installed pergo (didn't actually do it myself) it was not
> snap lock but tongue and groove that had to be glued.
> 
> I have installed the snap lock stuff in other brands. If you don't have
> one, there is a little tool, a plastic block block with a ridge on it
> that can help with hammering/tapping the pieces together without
> damaging them. Should be available at Lowes, etc. in the flooring dept.
> 
> Level floor is important also, so not effort wasted if you had high and
> low spots.
> 
> Are you using an underlayment?
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I have spent 2 days trying to lay this pergo crap. First row went in
>> fine but 2nd and 3rd row did not want to lock in properly. You knock
>> one side in and the other side would pop loose. I ripped it all back
>> up and came to the conclusion I must have some high spots causing
>> it. Ended up sanding down the joints between subfloor pieces that
>> seemed to be creating high spots. Filled in some low spots with
>> leveling compound. Have to wait for it to dry and hopefully tomorrow
>> it goes it easier. Last time I put this stuff in it went pretty
>> easily.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic: "Brake Service...Visit Workshop" message

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 14:41:52 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> You most likely didn’t hurt anything. However, SBC systems can activate
> without warning, and quite forcefully, which is why you never want to
> work on a car with SBC without disconnecting the SBC unit. They can
> cause pretty serious injury if it goes off while you’re working on the
> brakes.

What does it do when it, "goes off"? And why would it do that?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q XIII

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Never hit the on switch of a grinder without good safety glasses in
place... unless you want to walk your seeing eye dog with a white cane with
a red tip



On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 2:56 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Ouch!  Been there done that, but the emergency room doctor fixed me up.
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Sep 4, 2020 3:00:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>
> > But but  but I worked so hard to get the 300D 2.5 ready on time! I even
> got a metal shard in my eye from grinding rust which I had to have removed
> by an ophthalmologist today!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> We have postponed this year's Q originally scheduled for Sept 12. Let's
> >> hope the world is safer by next May and we can have a spring Q.
> >> It has been a tough decision but this seems advisable in our current
> world.
> >> Stay tuned as we might figure out a virtual Q.
> >>
> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> 1982 300CD
> >> 2005 E320 4Matic
> >> Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Chewed up trip

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Take a look at the latest issue from Harbor Freight.
It has a pressure control feature that lets you "turn down the pressure"
for finer work. They also stock and sell 3 nozzles to adjust the spray for
different types of paint or stain... all the way from thick outside paint
to fine cut for something like varnish or stain..

I haven't used one from Harbor Freight yet [holding off buying one by
waiting for their next sale, yes, I'm cheap.]  However I have used another
sprayer extensively with the pressure control feature... whow.. what a
great thing... that lets me cut in and control where and how much paint I'm
putting on very nicely.

With an airless sprayer, cleanup and storage is very important... If you
are using latex paint, use a bucket of clean water, drop the pickup tube in
and run the sprayer till it blows clean water out the nozzle.. then, ALWAYS
use the magic stuff [all the paint stores have it] that you run through the
pump, hose, and spray nozzle, that keeps all the parts from having
corrosion while not being used... then... Bobs Yer Unkle.

I'm totally sold on airless sprayers.. took a bit to master how to use one
well.. once that learning curve was passed... I'm spoiled Interior or
exterior... done before I would have messed with rollers, or brushes, or
sponges.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:37 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Never found one of those I cared for, at least one that did a decent job.
> I’ve used bulk sprayers for painting houses, however, and that’s definitely
> the way to go.
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 4, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget an airless sprayer to paint all that trim!
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Sep 4, 2020 9:07:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> The title is supposed to be chewed up TRIM
> >>
> >> I got a small pancake air compressor but not a nail gun
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes, plus an air nailer, maybe an air compressor if you don't have
> that.
> >>> Max Dillon
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>> Sep 4, 2020 7:46:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >>>
>  Since the renters pit bulls chewed up a crap load of trim in the
> house, it really needs to be replaced. I suppose this means I’m going to
> have to go to HF and buy a miter saw?
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Sat, September 5, 2020 11:23 am, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

> And if you ride in the back you have to look like Nancy Pelosi


I thought you made that up.
I thought wrong.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Chewed up trip

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

First time I used a rental store airless sprayer to prime new drywall, I
seemingly instantly put about a gallon of paint into about 10 square
feet. Globbed up and started running down the wall. Lesson learned, the
gun/nozzle must be moving *before* you pull the trigger, and it sprays a
LOT faster than you expect.

Allan

G Mann via Mercedes  writes:

> Take a look at the latest issue from Harbor Freight.
> It has a pressure control feature that lets you "turn down the pressure"
> for finer work. They also stock and sell 3 nozzles to adjust the spray for
> different types of paint or stain... all the way from thick outside paint
> to fine cut for something like varnish or stain..
>
> I haven't used one from Harbor Freight yet [holding off buying one by
> waiting for their next sale, yes, I'm cheap.]  However I have used another
> sprayer extensively with the pressure control feature... whow.. what a
> great thing... that lets me cut in and control where and how much paint I'm
> putting on very nicely.
>
> With an airless sprayer, cleanup and storage is very important... If you
> are using latex paint, use a bucket of clean water, drop the pickup tube in
> and run the sprayer till it blows clean water out the nozzle.. then, ALWAYS
> use the magic stuff [all the paint stores have it] that you run through the
> pump, hose, and spray nozzle, that keeps all the parts from having
> corrosion while not being used... then... Bobs Yer Unkle.
>
> I'm totally sold on airless sprayers.. took a bit to master how to use one
> well.. once that learning curve was passed... I'm spoiled Interior or
> exterior... done before I would have messed with rollers, or brushes, or
> sponges.
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:37 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Never found one of those I cared for, at least one that did a decent job.
>> I’ve used bulk sprayers for painting houses, however, and that’s definitely
>> the way to go.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On Sep 4, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Don't forget an airless sprayer to paint all that trim!
>> > Max Dillon
>> > Charleston SC
>> >
>> > Sep 4, 2020 9:07:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>> >
>> >> The title is supposed to be chewed up TRIM
>> >>
>> >> I got a small pancake air compressor but not a nail gun
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, plus an air nailer, maybe an air compressor if you don't have
>> that.
>> >>> Max Dillon
>> >>> Charleston SC
>> >>>
>> >>> Sep 4, 2020 7:46:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>> >>>
>>  Since the renters pit bulls chewed up a crap load of trim in the
>> house, it really needs to be replaced. I suppose this means I’m going to
>> have to go to HF and buy a miter saw?
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>> 

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[MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Oldest boy's Focus needs an alternator.

Autozone has three options: Duralast new for $201, Duralast reman for
$151, Valucraft reman $101.

First two have a lifetime warranty, the latter has a one-year warranty.

"Difficult installation" is noted. I have reviewed several YouTube
videos, it seems like a tight fit but otherwise not terrible.

The car is on its last legs mostly due to rust. Every time something
else goes wrong I debate just driving it to the scrapper. However it's
paid for, insurance is cheap, and it still starts and runs very well.

What say you all?

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Re: [MBZ] Chewed up trip

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s a bulk sprayer, like you would use for large area interior/exterior 
spraying. I’ve used them for both, and they’re a must-have. When we built our 
house in Wisconsin I sprayed the whole interior of a 3,000 SF house in about 
six hours, if that. Did my mother in-law’s house exterior in about three hours 
(800 SF single story block house) after spending the previous day prepping and 
masking.

I think what’s being discussed here is one of the smaller sprayers that you 
might use for small interior areas or maybe spraying doors, for example.

I had one of the name brand (Wagner?) ones about 10-12 years ago that literally 
“flung” the paint and wasn’t happy with it. Maybe they’ve gotten better since 
then.

-D

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> First time I used a rental store airless sprayer to prime new drywall, I
> seemingly instantly put about a gallon of paint into about 10 square
> feet. Globbed up and started running down the wall. Lesson learned, the
> gun/nozzle must be moving *before* you pull the trigger, and it sprays a
> LOT faster than you expect.
> 
> Allan
> 
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Take a look at the latest issue from Harbor Freight.
>> It has a pressure control feature that lets you "turn down the pressure"
>> for finer work. They also stock and sell 3 nozzles to adjust the spray for
>> different types of paint or stain... all the way from thick outside paint
>> to fine cut for something like varnish or stain..
>> 
>> I haven't used one from Harbor Freight yet [holding off buying one by
>> waiting for their next sale, yes, I'm cheap.]  However I have used another
>> sprayer extensively with the pressure control feature... whow.. what a
>> great thing... that lets me cut in and control where and how much paint I'm
>> putting on very nicely.
>> 
>> With an airless sprayer, cleanup and storage is very important... If you
>> are using latex paint, use a bucket of clean water, drop the pickup tube in
>> and run the sprayer till it blows clean water out the nozzle.. then, ALWAYS
>> use the magic stuff [all the paint stores have it] that you run through the
>> pump, hose, and spray nozzle, that keeps all the parts from having
>> corrosion while not being used... then... Bobs Yer Unkle.
>> 
>> I'm totally sold on airless sprayers.. took a bit to master how to use one
>> well.. once that learning curve was passed... I'm spoiled Interior or
>> exterior... done before I would have messed with rollers, or brushes, or
>> sponges.
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:37 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Never found one of those I cared for, at least one that did a decent job.
>>> I’ve used bulk sprayers for painting houses, however, and that’s definitely
>>> the way to go.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Sep 4, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Don't forget an airless sprayer to paint all that trim!
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 
 Sep 4, 2020 9:07:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
 
> The title is supposed to be chewed up TRIM
> 
> I got a small pancake air compressor but not a nail gun
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, plus an air nailer, maybe an air compressor if you don't have
>>> that.
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Sep 4, 2020 7:46:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>> 
>>> Since the renters pit bulls chewed up a crap load of trim in the
>>> house, it really needs to be replaced. I suppose this means I’m going to
>>> have to go to HF and buy a miter saw?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If the car is in that bad of shape, I would go for the cheapest one. If it 
lasts more than a year (the car or the alternator) you’re ahead of the game.

-D

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Oldest boy's Focus needs an alternator.
> 
> Autozone has three options: Duralast new for $201, Duralast reman for
> $151, Valucraft reman $101.
> 
> First two have a lifetime warranty, the latter has a one-year warranty.
> 
> "Difficult installation" is noted. I have reviewed several YouTube
> videos, it seems like a tight fit but otherwise not terrible.
> 
> The car is on its last legs mostly due to rust. Every time something
> else goes wrong I debate just driving it to the scrapper. However it's
> paid for, insurance is cheap, and it still starts and runs very well.
> 
> What say you all?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chewed up trip

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yeah I've used the little Wagner also, and also wasn't impressed.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> That’s a bulk sprayer, like you would use for large area interior/exterior 
> spraying. I’ve used them for both, and they’re a must-have. When we built our 
> house in Wisconsin I sprayed the whole interior of a 3,000 SF house in about 
> six hours, if that. Did my mother in-law’s house exterior in about three 
> hours (800 SF single story block house) after spending the previous day 
> prepping and masking.
>
> I think what’s being discussed here is one of the smaller sprayers that you 
> might use for small interior areas or maybe spraying doors, for example.
>
> I had one of the name brand (Wagner?) ones about 10-12 years ago that 
> literally “flung” the paint and wasn’t happy with it. Maybe they’ve gotten 
> better since then.
>
> -D
>
>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> First time I used a rental store airless sprayer to prime new drywall, I
>> seemingly instantly put about a gallon of paint into about 10 square
>> feet. Globbed up and started running down the wall. Lesson learned, the
>> gun/nozzle must be moving *before* you pull the trigger, and it sprays a
>> LOT faster than you expect.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Take a look at the latest issue from Harbor Freight.
>>> It has a pressure control feature that lets you "turn down the pressure"
>>> for finer work. They also stock and sell 3 nozzles to adjust the spray for
>>> different types of paint or stain... all the way from thick outside paint
>>> to fine cut for something like varnish or stain..
>>> 
>>> I haven't used one from Harbor Freight yet [holding off buying one by
>>> waiting for their next sale, yes, I'm cheap.]  However I have used another
>>> sprayer extensively with the pressure control feature... whow.. wh>> great thing... that lets me cut in and control where and how much paint I'm
>>> putting on very nicely.
>>> 
>>> With an airless sprayer, cleanup and storage is very important... If you
>>> are using latex paint, use a bucket of clean water, drop the pickup tube in
>>> and run the sprayer till it blows clean water out the nozzle.. then, ALWAYS
>>> use the magic stuff [all the paint stores have it] that you run through the
>>> pump, hose, and spray nozzle, that keeps all the parts from having
>>> corrosion while not being used... then... Bobs Yer Unkle.
>>> 
>>> I'm totally sold on airless sprayers.. took a bit to master how to use one
>>> well.. once that learning curve was passed... I'm spoiled Interior or
>>> exterior... done before I would have messed with rollers, or brushes, or
>>> sponges.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:37 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Never found one of those I cared for, at least one that did a decent job.
 I’ve used bulk sprayers for painting houses, however, and that’s definitely
 the way to go.
 
 -D
 
> On Sep 4, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Don't forget an airless sprayer to paint all that trim!
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Sep 4, 2020 9:07:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> 
>> The title is supposed to be chewed up TRIM
>> 
>> I got a small pancake air compressor but not a nail gun
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, plus an air nailer, maybe an air compressor if you don't have
 that.
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Sep 4, 2020 7:46:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>>> 
 Since the renters pit bulls chewed up a crap load of trim in the
 house, it really needs to be replaced. I suppose this means I’m going to
 have to go to HF and buy a miter saw?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 

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Re: [MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

[Clay via Mercedes]

S class has looked like korean car for the past two decades.  Kia cost a bunch 
less and you get the same quality build and fitment

clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And in order to drive it you can’t shave for 3 days
> 
> And if you ride in the back you have to look like Nancy Pelosi 
> 
> https://youtu.be/-4zsY28t76k
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Pergo or Paint?

[Clay via Mercedes]

Kudos

clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’d rather do floors than paint, which is what I”m doing today to avoid going 
> outside.
> 
> Our back (pool) bath was used by the PO’s daughter when she was a teenager. 
> It’s pained (badly) in some weird “seafoam” color with (get ready) glitter 
> glued on the walls using a stencil. That is, think about putting a stenciled 
> design about 8” x 8” randomly all over the walls. With the stencing taped to 
> the wall, you wipe white glue and over it and then toss a handful of glitter 
> at it, then lift the stencil off and let things dry. At least that’s how I 
> think they did what’s there.
> 
> We probably spent a couple hours using drywall compound sanding sheets, the 
> open weave sort of stuff, to level off the drywall and get as much of the 
> glue off the walls without damaging the drywall. Then I went over every one 
> of them with a couple of coats of Kilz, then hit each with spray texture to 
> match the original texture.  I will say that the cans of spray texture, while 
> not cheap, do a heck of a job blending things once you get the hang of it.
> 
> So now I’m having to paint the walls. Finally. The last room of the house 
> (besides the kitchen) that needed paint.
> 
> Beats going outside, though.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have spent 2 days trying to lay this pergo crap. First row went in fine 
>> but 2nd and 3rd row did not want to lock in properly. You knock one side in 
>> and the other side would pop loose. I ripped it all back up and came to the 
>> conclusion I must have some high spots causing it. Ended up sanding down the 
>> joints between subfloor pieces that seemed to be creating high spots. Filled 
>> in some low spots with leveling compound. Have to wait for it to dry and 
>> hopefully tomorrow it goes it easier. Last time I put this stuff in it went 
>> pretty easily. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

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On Sat, September 5, 2020 4:42 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>
> The car is on its last legs mostly due to rust.

Looks like Keystone-Kentuckiana has OE (used) for about $30, in better
condition than the rest of the car.
https://www.car-part.com

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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Unfortunately I don't see any salvage yards that are close enough to
make saving $70 worth the time and gas it would take.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> On Sat, September 5, 2020 4:42 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> The car is on its last legs mostly due to rust.
>
> Looks like Keystone-Kentuckiana has OE (used) for about $30, in better
> condition than the rest of the car.
> https://www.car-part.com
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Re: [MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Last Kia I drove felt like I was sitting in a coke can. Tinny and
insubstantial.

Agree on the styling but I'd certainly expect better build quality for
the price of an MB. No?

Allan


Clay via Mercedes  writes:

> S class has looked like korean car for the past two decades.  Kia cost a 
> bunch less and you get the same quality build and fitment
>
> clay 
>
> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
> self-recrimination and wetness.”
>
> B. Johnson
> 01/09/2020
>
>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> And in order to drive it you can’t shave for 3 days
>> 
>> And if you ride in the back you have to look like Nancy Pelosi 
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/-4zsY28t76k
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Wow. 48.9kmi 1993 Mercedes-Benz 600 SEL - $17, 000 (charlotte)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That’s what I was thinking. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A BATworthy car at a BATworthy price?
> Mitch
> 
>> On Sat, September 5, 2020 11:13 am, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks brand new
>> 
>> 
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-1993-mercedes-benz-600-s
>> el/7190485274.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

[G Mann via Mercedes]

That has to be the most irritating advertisement I have ever tried to
watch..
It insults me in so many ways, I had to click it off...
The only saving grace would be if the last 20 seconds of the ad, the car
and actors were driven into a car scrap shredder... Everything crushed,
including the techno music.
Y

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 2:57 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Last Kia I drove felt like I was sitting in a coke can. Tinny and
> insubstantial.
>
> Agree on the styling but I'd certainly expect better build quality for
> the price of an MB. No?
>
> Allan
>
>
> Clay via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > S class has looked like korean car for the past two decades.  Kia cost a
> bunch less and you get the same quality build and fitment
> >
> > clay
> >
> > “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”
> >
> > B. Johnson
> > 01/09/2020
> >
> >> On Sep 5, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> And in order to drive it you can’t shave for 3 days
> >>
> >> And if you ride in the back you have to look like Nancy Pelosi
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/-4zsY28t76k
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Chewed up trip

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> the gun/nozzle must be moving *before* you pull the trigger, and it sprays
> a
> LOT faster than you expect.


The time between looks good, and runny, is far less than the time it takes
to think "oh crap!"
Airless sprayers (not the handheld units) are the real deal.

If you need to, pick up a can at the recycling center, or the clearance
corner, and practice
spraying it onto scrap wood.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Chewed up trip

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> With an airless sprayer, cleanup and storage is very important...


I clean mine (latex) by running water through it until it is clear, then
follow
it with paint thinner.  I do it in reverse next time I paint.  You can't
leave them
with water in them, they'll rust.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Pergo or Paint?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

This is the time of year New England gets it's revenge on the south, it was 68 
and glorious. I changed the oil in the pickup and went to the range with my 
hunting buddy.Tried my .300 Savage at 100 yards. It's spot on at 50, about 3" 
low at 100. Bear season starts Tuesday, I'm going to hunt geese in the morning 
and bear in the afternoon. Just have to remember to hold into the top of the 
back at 75 yards and beyond.
Curt

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  On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 2:26 PM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   I’d rather do floors than paint, which 
is what I”m doing today to avoid going outside.

Our back (pool) bath was used by the PO’s daughter when she was a teenager. 
It’s pained (badly) in some weird “seafoam” color with (get ready) glitter 
glued on the walls using a stencil. That is, think about putting a stenciled 
design about 8” x 8” randomly all over the walls. With the stencing taped to 
the wall, you wipe white glue and over it and then toss a handful of glitter at 
it, then lift the stencil off and let things dry. At least that’s how I think 
they did what’s there.

We probably spent a couple hours using drywall compound sanding sheets, the 
open weave sort of stuff, to level off the drywall and get as much of the glue 
off the walls without damaging the drywall. Then I went over every one of them 
with a couple of coats of Kilz, then hit each with spray texture to match the 
original texture.  I will say that the cans of spray texture, while not cheap, 
do a heck of a job blending things once you get the hang of it.

So now I’m having to paint the walls. Finally. The last room of the house 
(besides the kitchen) that needed paint.

Beats going outside, though.

-D

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have spent 2 days trying to lay this pergo crap. First row went in fine but 
> 2nd and 3rd row did not want to lock in properly. You knock one side in and 
> the other side would pop loose. I ripped it all back up and came to the 
> conclusion I must have some high spots causing it. Ended up sanding down the 
> joints between subfloor pieces that seemed to be creating high spots. Filled 
> in some low spots with leveling compound. Have to wait for it to dry and 
> hopefully tomorrow it goes it easier. Last time I put this stuff in it went 
> pretty easily. 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Having kids is not worth it

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You sacrifice for your kids growing up, making sure they are well taken care 
of. Help then anytime they need help. When you are working your ass off for a 
month on a house that renters tore up, they can’t be bothered to help. 

BTW got the pergo done in the bathroom. Just have to put all the trim down. 
Hopefully the utility room goes smooth tomorrow. 

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Re: [MBZ] Having kids is not worth it

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mine help out for the most part, at least my youngest does. That’s because he 
knows when he needs help I’ll return the favor in kind. The eldest? Forget it.

Not a lot you can do at this point.

-D

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You sacrifice for your kids growing up, making sure they are well taken care 
> of. Help then anytime they need help. When you are working your ass off for a 
> month on a house that renters tore up, they can’t be bothered to help. 
> 
> BTW got the pergo done in the bathroom. Just have to put all the trim down. 
> Hopefully the utility room goes smooth tomorrow. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Having kids is not worth it

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Lear:
If she must teem,
Create her child of spleen, that it may live
And be a thwart disnatur'd torment to her!
Let it stamp wrinkles in her brow of youth,
With cadent tears fret channels in her cheeks,
Turn all her mother's pains and benefits
To laughter and contempt, that she may feel
How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is
To have a thankless child!
King Lear Act 1, scene 4, 281–289

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 8:48 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mine help out for the most part, at least my youngest does. That’s because
> he knows when he needs help I’ll return the favor in kind. The eldest?
> Forget it.
>
> Not a lot you can do at this point.
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You sacrifice for your kids growing up, making sure they are well taken
> care of. Help then anytime they need help. When you are working your ass
> off for a month on a house that renters tore up, they can’t be bothered to
> help.
> >
> > BTW got the pergo done in the bathroom. Just have to put all the trim
> down. Hopefully the utility room goes smooth tomorrow.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I'm at the point in the removal of the alternator where the instructions
say "lift the alternator up and out" but tight fit is putting it
mildly. Cannot get it out of the bracket because it hits the intake
manifold. Curse these engineers who don't make standard maintenance
items easy to replace! Around here we call it Purdue engineering.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> If the car is in that bad of shape, I would go for the cheapest one. If it 
> lasts more than a year (the car or the alternator) you’re ahead of the game.
>
> -D
>
>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oldest boy's Focus needs an alternator.
>> 
>> Autozone has three options: Duralast new for $201, Duralast reman for
>> $151, Valucraft reman $101.
>> 
>> First two have a lifetime warranty, the latter has a one-year warranty.
>> 
>> "Difficult installation" is noted. I have reviewed several YouTube
>> videos, it seems like a tight fit but otherwise not terrible.
>> 
>> The car is on its last legs mostly due to rust. Every time something
>> else goes wrong I debate just driving it to the scrapper. However it's
>> paid for, insurance is cheap, and it still starts and runs very well.
>> 
>> What say you all?
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ouch! Time for a boilermaker?

-D

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm at the point in the removal of the alternator where the instructions
> say "lift the alternator up and out" but tight fit is putting it
> mildly. Cannot get it out of the bracket because it hits the intake
> manifold. Curse these engineers who don't make standard maintenance
> items easy to replace! Around here we call it Purdue engineering.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> If the car is in that bad of shape, I would go for the cheapest one. If it 
>> lasts more than a year (the car or the alternator) you’re ahead of the game.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oldest boy's Focus needs an alternator.
>>> 
>>> Autozone has three options: Duralast new for $201, Duralast reman for
>>> $151, Valucraft reman $101.
>>> 
>>> First two have a lifetime warranty, the latter has a one-year warranty.
>>> 
>>> "Difficult installation" is noted. I have reviewed several YouTube
>>> videos, it seems like a tight fit but otherwise not terrible.
>>> 
>>> The car is on its last legs mostly due to rust. Every time something
>>> else goes wrong I debate just driving it to the scrapper. However it's
>>> paid for, insurance is cheap, and it still starts and runs very well.
>>> 
>>> What say you all?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Having kids is not worth it

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

They used to help. Not anymore. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Mine help out for the most part, at least my youngest does. That’s because 
> he knows when he needs help I’ll return the favor in kind. The eldest? Forget 
> it.
> 
> Not a lot you can do at this point.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You sacrifice for your kids growing up, making sure they are well taken care 
>> of. Help then anytime they need help. When you are working your ass off for 
>> a month on a house that renters tore up, they can’t be bothered to help. 
>> 
>> BTW got the pergo done in the bathroom. Just have to put all the trim down. 
>> Hopefully the utility room goes smooth tomorrow. 
>> 
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[MBZ] OT dog pee

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So this office that used to be the back porch that was apparently used as a dog 
kennel has constantly smelled so bad you couldn’t stand to be in there. The 
house side is being and the outside is Sheetrock. So far we have used that 
enzyme stuff, citrus cleaner, bleach, pine sol, ran ozone machine still just as 
bad. We then kilzed the walls and repainted them, kilzed the concrete floor, 
scrubbed the crap out of the being. Lower half of being is dark from the dogs 
peeing on it. They chewed up most of the trim so today we removed it. Oh my 
gosh holy hell it stunk. Behind the trim was just soaked in dog pee. We went to 
pull the trim from the Sheetrock side and we could put no pressure at all on 
the Sheetrock to pry it off. Would just sink it with no effort at all. Finally 
got it off and the bottom foot or so of the Sheetrock is just crumbling from 
all the dog piss. Now we are going to have to cut it out, replace, re texture 
the wall then probably paint it again. Holy hell. Everytime we are there we 
fine something else they screwed up. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT dog pee

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Greek lightning.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Sat, September 5, 2020 9:09 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> I'm at the point in the removal of the alternator where the instructions
> say "lift the alternator up and out" but tight fit is putting it mildly.
> Cannot get it out of the bracket because it hits the intake
> manifold. Curse these engineers who don't make standard maintenance items
> easy to replace! Around here we call it Purdue engineering.

At least my Saturn's alternator sits in front, above the compressor, and
lifts right out after you remove the airbox and tubing. But I accidentally
knocked the belt off the crank pulley and after much time wasted trying to
guide it back on, I ended up taking apart the fender liner, then the belt
went right back on the pulleys when I had decent access to the crank
pulley.

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Re: [MBZ] OT dog pee

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Sat, September 5, 2020 9:38 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  Every time we are there we
> find something else they screwed up.
>

And probably past the due date for giving them a final total of the damages?

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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Ouch! Time for a boilermaker?


That's Purdue. He's IU...


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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I know. Since he made the Purdue reference I figured I would pile on.

-D (who attended I.U. Bloomington one semester in 1978)

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Ouch! Time for a boilermaker?
> 
> 
> That's Purdue. He's IU...
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Unbolt the motor mount and shift the engine over.

Big fun.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT dog pee

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

We are way too far down the rabbit hole for that.  We are sitting at about $6k 
in materials so far. We need to get a fence guy out to quote repairing the wood 
privacy fence their dogs destroyed. Need to get a window guy out to quote 
replacing nearly every screen in the house. Some screens are just tore up or 
missing and can easily has the screen replaced. Others the frames are 
completely missing for some reason. 

I should check my coverage with USAA. It is specific rental property coverage 
and I know it covers loss of rent during claims, I wonder if it covers damage 
caused by renters. 

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> On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Greek lightning.
> 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I've considered it, the motor mount bolts are easily accessible, but I
don't think that will help in this case because everything that's
causing my problem will move with the engine. But I might try it, if
nothing else I might get a better angle to grab onto the thing.

Allan

Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:

> Unbolt the motor mount and shift the engine over.
>
> Big fun.
>
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Sat, September 5, 2020 10:03 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> I've considered it, the motor mount bolts are easily accessible, but I
> don't think that will help in this case because everything that's causing
> my problem will move with the engine. But I might try it, if nothing else
> I might get a better angle to grab onto the thing.

Any decent youtube videos on the subject?

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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Hey now!

--FT
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> On Sep 5, 2020, at 9:10 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Around here we call it Purdue engineering.

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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I was working on a 2005 Focus with the 2.? Eco something engine. The alternator 
was wedged between the engine and the firewall. I had to unbolt the motor mount 
and pry the engine over to get it out. Might have had to remove some other 
stuff in the too. It was a while ago. I've given up trying to leave things in 
place and "work around it". If it's in the way, it's outta here.


Rick

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Sent: September 5, 2020 9:04 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

I've considered it, the motor mount bolts are easily accessible, but I
don't think that will help in this case because everything that's
causing my problem will move with the engine. But I might try it, if
nothing else I might get a better angle to grab onto the thing.

Allan

Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:

> Unbolt the motor mount and shift the engine over.
>
> Big fun.
>
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yep that's similar. This is a 2003 with 2.0l Zetec.

Already removed/relocated coolant reservoir, PS fluid reservoir, and
misc wiring and hoses. In the video I watched, that was enough, so I'm
guessing that I just haven't hit upon the exact angle that will get it
to clear the bracket.

I'll be trying to watch some other videos tonight. Apparently others
have had success removing it from underneath, through the wheel well,
with wheel and liner removed.


Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:

> I was working on a 2005 Focus with the 2.? Eco something engine. The
> alternator was wedged between the engine and the firewall. I had to
> unbolt the motor mount and pry the engine over to get it out. Might
> have had to remove some other stuff in the too. It was a while
> ago. I've given up trying to leave things in place and "work around
> it". If it's in the way, it's outta here.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: September 5, 2020 9:04 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] FLAPS alternator options (non-MB)
>
> I've considered it, the motor mount bolts are easily accessible, but I
> don't think that will help in this case because everything that's
> causing my problem will move with the engine. But I might try it, if
> nothing else I might get a better angle to grab onto the thing.
>
> Allan
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:
>
>> Unbolt the motor mount and shift the engine over.
>>
>> Big fun.
>>
>> Rick

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[MBZ] So, after my Mercedes got wrecked...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

1:57 ...ouch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOWn1WSYhVQ

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