Re: [MBZ] A New Oil Specification for GDI Engines

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 00:28:44 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  That same engine is in a Pisten Bully PB200, ours actually has an
> OM352LA (turbo/intercooled). It also has the ether injector but ours
> has the hose cut. Is liquid ether available? It'd be awesome to have it
> working again and not have to pull the air cleaner to give it a little
> snort. -Curt

Some heavy truck engines have provision for ether injection from a can
of liquid ether, so the technology and hardware (still) exist.

Check with the guys at:

 FleetPride Parts Leominster
 100 Crawford Street
 Leominster, MA 01453
 (978) 840-3629

They will most likely be able to fix you up.


Craig

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[MBZ] LiOn recycles!

[Clay via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/mbkhXAP1EQE

I was not sure the stuff could be reused.  Looks like your dead cells power 
appliances and other junk until they perish.  Then it all gets chopped up and 
sent to China for their use.


clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
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Re: [MBZ] Clear drug abuse issues

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wow. I’ll say.

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 8:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/360581355144677/
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[MBZ] Mercedes 450SL - $6,500 FIRM, MUST SELL!!!

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

$6500 FIRM
Two Seater Coupe with 119K miles
Removable Hard top and Convertible top, both in great shape
Owned for 20 years, always garaged
MUST SELL!!! Downsizing!!!

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/coatesville-mercedes-450sl/7208032704.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Benze 380 SL - $21,000 (Perry)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Does the scarecrow come with it?


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> It looks new
>
> https://macon.craigslist.org/cto/d/perry-1983-mercedes-benze-380-sl/7208524380.html
>
> -- 
> --FT
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[MBZ] Clear drug abuse issues

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/360581355144677/


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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Diesel Mercedes 350SD - $6,000 (BRUNSWICK)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-10-05 19:17, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
$6k is about the price for a decent one that doesn’t have a branded 
title.


And had a factory replacement engine instead of an engine swap.

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Diesel Mercedes 350SD - $6,000 (BRUNSWICK)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

$6k is about the price for a decent one that doesn’t have a branded title.

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No pics
> 
> https://brunswick.craigslist.org/cto/d/brunswick-1991-diesel-mercedes-350sd/7208685404.html
> 
> I am the second owner of this car and have loved / taken good care of this 
> car. Unfortunately years ago, I was in an accident (was ran off the highway) 
> and the car was deemed a total loss. I loved the car so much, I bought it 
> back from the insurance company and I fully restored the vehicle mechanically 
> as well as the bodywork. It is titled as salvage rebuilt due to it being 
> fully restored. Replaced the engine with a new/used engine with a little over 
> 100K miles on it. Runs smoothly, is a beautiful car and drives like a dream. 
> I no longer need the vehicle as I am recently married and starting a family 
> and no longer need an additional vehicle as I am trying to simplify. Would 
> love to sell to the right buyer. Carfax available upon request.
> 
> 
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[MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Benze 380 SL - $21,000 (Perry)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It looks new

https://macon.craigslist.org/cto/d/perry-1983-mercedes-benze-380-sl/7208524380.html

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[MBZ] 1991 Diesel Mercedes 350SD - $6,000 (BRUNSWICK)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No pics

https://brunswick.craigslist.org/cto/d/brunswick-1991-diesel-mercedes-350sd/7208685404.html

I am the second owner of this car and have loved / taken good care of 
this car. Unfortunately years ago, I was in an accident (was ran off the 
highway) and the car was deemed a total loss. I loved the car so much, I 
bought it back from the insurance company and I fully restored the 
vehicle mechanically as well as the bodywork. It is titled as salvage 
rebuilt due to it being fully restored. Replaced the engine with a 
new/used engine with a little over 100K miles on it. Runs smoothly, is a 
beautiful car and drives like a dream. I no longer need the vehicle as I 
am recently married and starting a family and no longer need an 
additional vehicle as I am trying to simplify. Would love to sell to the 
right buyer. Carfax available upon request.



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Re: [MBZ] 1986 300SDL - $1, 500 needs to be sold or it goes to the crusher

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah, good luck at the scrapper.  Or maybe he thinks the threat will 
bring out some ransom desire


--FT

On 10/5/20 4:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:


If you don't give me $1500 for it, I'll haul it to the crusher for $150.

Adds like that are just begging for "I'll give you 20% over scrap and 
you don't have to drag it to the recyclers".


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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I mean quite literally they were driving 165 a lot of the time. The guy
said they never went over 170.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020, 12:28 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 05/10/2020 2:21 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > These dudes kind of want to be legends like pirates or the people who
> > download music for free on the dark net, or antifa rebelling against
> > something but no one is sure exactly what. It was more understandable
> when
> > the speed limit in South Dakota was 55mph. Now it is 80. Fundamentally
> > breaking this particular law isn't very impressive and driving 165mph on
> > public roads has lost its moral justification, if it ever had any. Maybe
> > youtube will demonetize them. They should take the car to an oval and
> set a
> > 24h record if they want to achieve anything significant.
> >
>
> I agree totally. It is dangerous for them and anyone else on the road.
> They (everyone and not just the one's who have done it and want to
> improve their record etc ) should give it up before someone gets killed
> in the process.
>
> RB
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 300SDL - $1, 500 needs to be sold or it goes to the crusher

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good point, hadn’t thought of that…

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you don't give me $1500 for it, I'll haul it to the crusher for $150.
> 
> Adds like that are just begging for "I'll give you 20% over scrap and you 
> don't have to drag it to the recyclers".
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Re: [MBZ] Hey I’m Vince and I’m selling my 2003 Mercedes Benz s430

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Take the gas cap off, pry the seal out of the groove, flip it over, and put it 
back in.

I haven’t driven the wagon enough to determine if my P0400 CEL was resolved by 
the discovery of a cracked vacuum line yet. I need to drive it some to see how 
my new HID headlights are working, too…

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-05 15:55, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> In my experience this is almost always something emissions
>> related. Oxygen sensor, etc. Could also be any other abnormal sensor
>> reading such as fuel pressure.
> 
> My 2003 ML put up a CEL yesterday.
> Scanned it today, and it was P0442, slight leak in evap system.
> I interpret that as either 'my gas cap is 17 years old', or 'I'm tired of 
> being parked all the time'. Cleared the code and filled the tank, will see 
> what happens next.
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 300SDL - $1, 500 needs to be sold or it goes to the crusher

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If you don't give me $1500 for it, I'll haul it to the crusher for $150.

Adds like that are just begging for "I'll give you 20% over scrap and 
you don't have to drag it to the recyclers".


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Re: [MBZ] Hey I’m Vince and I’m selling my 2003 Mercedes Benz s430

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-10-05 15:55, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

In my experience this is almost always something emissions
related. Oxygen sensor, etc. Could also be any other abnormal sensor
reading such as fuel pressure.


My 2003 ML put up a CEL yesterday.
Scanned it today, and it was P0442, slight leak in evap system.
I interpret that as either 'my gas cap is 17 years old', or 'I'm tired 
of being parked all the time'. Cleared the code and filled the tank, 
will see what happens next.


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Re: [MBZ] 1986 300SDL - $1, 500 needs to be sold or it goes to the crusher

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They need to drop the “1”.

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> For sale or Best Offer 1985 Mercedes Benz 300 SDL. 2 owner 4 dr. Rust
> free, exterior in very good condition. Excellent dash, door panels, and
> headliner. Engine needs some work to get running. Options are pwr wind.,
> a/c, sun roof, bucket seats w/ console, pwr driver & pass seats. This
> needs to be sold or it goes to the crusher. It needs to go. Last chance
> to buy an excellent project car or donor to finish a project. Clean
> Title in hand. 
> 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1986-mercedes-benz-300/7208528665.html
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[MBZ] 1986 300SDL - $1, 500 needs to be sold or it goes to the crusher

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

For sale or Best Offer 1985 Mercedes Benz 300 SDL. 2 owner 4 dr. Rust
free, exterior in very good condition. Excellent dash, door panels, and
headliner. Engine needs some work to get running. Options are pwr wind.,
a/c, sun roof, bucket seats w/ console, pwr driver & pass seats. This
needs to be sold or it goes to the crusher. It needs to go. Last chance
to buy an excellent project car or donor to finish a project. Clean
Title in hand. 

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1986-mercedes-benz-300/7208528665.html

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Re: [MBZ] Hey I’m Vince and I’m selling my 2003 Mercedes Benz s430

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would try and get a worst case scenario, maybe from the dealership before
proceeding.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 3:56 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In my experience this is almost always something emissions
> related. Oxygen sensor, etc. Could also be any other abnormal sensor
> reading such as fuel pressure.
>
> I don't know what the "worst" thing it could be.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > WHat's the worst thing that the CEL could reveal?
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 8:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> HELLO VINCE
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2003-mercedes-benz-for-sale/7208085588.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey I’m Vince and I’m selling my 2003 Mercedes Benz s430

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

In my experience this is almost always something emissions
related. Oxygen sensor, etc. Could also be any other abnormal sensor
reading such as fuel pressure.

I don't know what the "worst" thing it could be.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> WHat's the worst thing that the CEL could reveal?
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 8:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> HELLO VINCE
>>
>>
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2003-mercedes-benz-for-sale/7208085588.html
>>
>> --
>> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a Cummins

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

No, I had a disagreement with one of their franchisees. They refused to
do anything to even partially correct the situation or even own up to
any responsibility. Their attitude was not just indifferent but
hostile. The actual dollar ammount this cost me was not worth legal
action but because of how they handled it I did swear off buying their
gasoline and other products (prior to this I used to prefer them when I
had a choice).

Allan


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Is it because of the commercials with the banners the cars drove through?
>
> https://youtu.be/7p90_8JJQUI
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I use Chevon Delo in my OM617s.
>> 
>> I have a 30 year old grudge against Shell so I avoid their products.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Besides the Mercedes fleet I also own and operate 5 Ford F350 with the 7.3
>>> diesel engine and one F 450, also 7.3 engine.
>>> Rotella oil in those engines leaks and blows out... fresh oil change and
>>> 1,500 miles I lose a quart.. all the engines are in good shape, wear and
>>> maintenance wise..
>>> When I removed the Rotella oil and shifted to Castrol Diesel oil... each
>>> engine immediately did not lose oil, or leak oil. Since then, I've tried
>>> other diesel oils [all 15 / 40 wt] with no oil loss... as soon as I do a
>>> shift back to Rotella... oil loss...
>>> 
>>> So.. Rotella is on my "don't like list".. for the trucks, and everything
>>> else in the diesel fleet.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 5:40 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Why are you not a fan of Rotella? What oil do you like?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:
> 
> Change the fuel filter now... and travel with a spare..
> 
> Oil "should make the trip" with the miles it has since last change...
> However.. it's been driven only short trips and been setting a lot, which
> is perfect to absorb moisture I would change oil and filter before
> taking the road.
> I'm not a fan of Rotella... you get to pick what you put in it.  Diesel
> synthetic has won me over... 15-40 wt...
> 
> I'm a Ford Powerstroke guy and I have friends who drive Cummins Dodges...
> have a look at:
> www.Oilburners.net
> Discussion board that has a very active group for Cummins and good folks
> [has another one for Fords, where I visit]
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My pops and I swapped trucks. He wanted my 2016 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi 80k
>> miles,  I get his2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.7 4x4  112k miles, and a
 $4k
>> check. Drove here to Illinois to make the swap. He was trying to guilt
 me
>> into it saying I’d feel bad if my 85 year old father somehow fell and
 broke
>> a hip while climbing into a 2500 4x4 while knowing he wanted my truck.
>> He bought it new when he still lived in AZ. Up until last year he towed
>> around a backhoe he had that he used to dig holes to set septic tanks.
>> Right around Thanksgiving last year he sold the backhoe, finally ready
 to
>> really retire at 85. Since then, he has barley driven it except for the
>> occasional trip to Menards.
>> Three questions. I know nothing yet about Cummins 5.7 engines yet. The
 oil
>> (Rotella non-synthetic) is a year old, a little less than 1000 miles on
 it.
>> Should I change the oil before I head back or change it after the 1850
 mile
>> trip back...or both? Also, should i change  or anticipate having to
 change
>> the fuel filter on the way back?  What else should i be concerned about
>> before we take off?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Hey I’m Vince and I’m selling my 2003 Mercedes Benz s430

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

WHat's the worst thing that the CEL could reveal?

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 8:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> HELLO VINCE
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2003-mercedes-benz-for-sale/7208085588.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a Cummins

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Are you running Dino or synthetic 15w40? 

In my 606 I was running the old Delo 5w40 LE(?) and it seemed like I had to top 
the oil a coupe of times per oil change. The last couple of changes I switched 
to Rotella T6 5w40 and right when it was due for a change the low oil message 
would come on, so it was down a qt. Now Delo has a new formula that is 
supposedly approved for gas and diesel. Not sure if I want to try Delo again or 
try something else, or stick with Rotella. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 12:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Besides the Mercedes fleet I also own and operate 5 Ford F350 with the 7.3
> diesel engine and one F 450, also 7.3 engine.
> Rotella oil in those engines leaks and blows out... fresh oil change and
> 1,500 miles I lose a quart.. all the engines are in good shape, wear and
> maintenance wise..
> When I removed the Rotella oil and shifted to Castrol Diesel oil... each
> engine immediately did not lose oil, or leak oil. Since then, I've tried
> other diesel oils [all 15 / 40 wt] with no oil loss... as soon as I do a
> shift back to Rotella... oil loss...
> 
> So.. Rotella is on my "don't like list".. for the trucks, and everything
> else in the diesel fleet.
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 5:40 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Why are you not a fan of Rotella? What oil do you like?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Change the fuel filter now... and travel with a spare..
>>> 
>>> Oil "should make the trip" with the miles it has since last change...
>>> However.. it's been driven only short trips and been setting a lot, which
>>> is perfect to absorb moisture I would change oil and filter before
>>> taking the road.
>>> I'm not a fan of Rotella... you get to pick what you put in it.  Diesel
>>> synthetic has won me over... 15-40 wt...
>>> 
>>> I'm a Ford Powerstroke guy and I have friends who drive Cummins Dodges...
>>> have a look at:
>>> www.Oilburners.net
>>> Discussion board that has a very active group for Cummins and good folks
>>> [has another one for Fords, where I visit]
>>> 
 On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 My pops and I swapped trucks. He wanted my 2016 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi 80k
 miles,  I get his2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.7 4x4  112k miles, and a
>> $4k
 check. Drove here to Illinois to make the swap. He was trying to guilt
>> me
 into it saying I’d feel bad if my 85 year old father somehow fell and
>> broke
 a hip while climbing into a 2500 4x4 while knowing he wanted my truck.
 He bought it new when he still lived in AZ. Up until last year he towed
 around a backhoe he had that he used to dig holes to set septic tanks.
 Right around Thanksgiving last year he sold the backhoe, finally ready
>> to
 really retire at 85. Since then, he has barley driven it except for the
 occasional trip to Menards.
 Three questions. I know nothing yet about Cummins 5.7 engines yet. The
>> oil
 (Rotella non-synthetic) is a year old, a little less than 1000 miles on
>> it.
 Should I change the oil before I head back or change it after the 1850
>> mile
 trip back...or both? Also, should i change  or anticipate having to
>> change
 the fuel filter on the way back?  What else should i be concerned about
 before we take off?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 92 600SEL in IL

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Playboy's car.  Might be worth a gamble but do a PPI.

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> >
> > Looks nice, supposedly needs a starter, price not too excessive, could
> be a solid ride
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/384034985891694/
> >
> > Too far for me
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car if There Ever Was One

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But he could get it for $500 I bet.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 9:00 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:42 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > You need to come back down here, Kaleb.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

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On 05/10/2020 2:21 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

These dudes kind of want to be legends like pirates or the people who
download music for free on the dark net, or antifa rebelling against
something but no one is sure exactly what. It was more understandable when
the speed limit in South Dakota was 55mph. Now it is 80. Fundamentally
breaking this particular law isn't very impressive and driving 165mph on
public roads has lost its moral justification, if it ever had any. Maybe
youtube will demonetize them. They should take the car to an oval and set a
24h record if they want to achieve anything significant.



I agree totally. It is dangerous for them and anyone else on the road. 
They (everyone and not just the one's who have done it and want to 
improve their record etc ) should give it up before someone gets killed 
in the process.


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Re: [MBZ] Getting a Cummins

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On 05/10/2020 2:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Is it because of the commercials with the banners the cars drove through?

https://youtu.be/7p90_8JJQUI

-D


On Oct 5, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

I use Chevon Delo in my OM617s.

I have a 30 year old grudge against Shell so I avoid their products.

Allan

I am not a fan of Shell either. It might not be any more but there was a 
time when, if gas prices went up, it was always Shell that raised the 
price first around here.


In addition, I had a 1977 Mercury that was not tolerant of the Shell 
gasoline. It would ping if I ran Shell. It was fine if I ran Esso so, I 
gave up on Shell.


I have been running Delo in my old 300D too.

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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

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These dudes kind of want to be legends like pirates or the people who
download music for free on the dark net, or antifa rebelling against
something but no one is sure exactly what. It was more understandable when
the speed limit in South Dakota was 55mph. Now it is 80. Fundamentally
breaking this particular law isn't very impressive and driving 165mph on
public roads has lost its moral justification, if it ever had any. Maybe
youtube will demonetize them. They should take the car to an oval and set a
24h record if they want to achieve anything significant.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020, 12:11 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> I was thinking it is  a small car but maybe I am wrong. It is a bit hard
> to tell how big that car is from the photos. Does it have a back seat? I
> think the guys who just did the run in the Audi had someone in the back
> seat working the electronics etc (my recall from reading the article a
> while back without checking again). How big is the trunk for an
> additional fuel cell?
>
> RB
>
>
>
> On 05/10/2020 12:33 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Randy - good point, what's been done in the past is the "teams" that make
> > these runs will add extra fuel tanks to the trunk to increase range, and
> at
> > fuel stops they simultaneously fill all the tanks.  I think they set up
> > electric transfer pumps to move fuel from the added tanks to the original
> > fuel tank while driving.  One reason that the Mercedes high-end cars are
> > favored (other than safety, comfort, and high speed) is the self-leveling
> > suspension which can handle the increased weight of the fuel and not
> > compromise handling / braking too much.
> >
> > Check out youtube university for additional content.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 12:10 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Might not be able to haul enough fuel in that one. Would spend too much
> >> time at re-filling stops.
> >> I wonder what the fuel economy numbers might be at high speed?
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >> On 05/10/2020 8:34 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> There's your Cannon ball run car.  A little creative use of duct tape
> >> and she'll look like a Honda Accord for added stealth.
> >>> Max Dillon
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>> Oct 5, 2020 8:40:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> :
> >>>
>  "Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently at
> >> Leith Mercedes including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"
>  My loss, your loss
> 
> 
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a Cummins

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Is it because of the commercials with the banners the cars drove through?

https://youtu.be/7p90_8JJQUI

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I use Chevon Delo in my OM617s.
> 
> I have a 30 year old grudge against Shell so I avoid their products.
> 
> Allan
> 
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Besides the Mercedes fleet I also own and operate 5 Ford F350 with the 7.3
>> diesel engine and one F 450, also 7.3 engine.
>> Rotella oil in those engines leaks and blows out... fresh oil change and
>> 1,500 miles I lose a quart.. all the engines are in good shape, wear and
>> maintenance wise..
>> When I removed the Rotella oil and shifted to Castrol Diesel oil... each
>> engine immediately did not lose oil, or leak oil. Since then, I've tried
>> other diesel oils [all 15 / 40 wt] with no oil loss... as soon as I do a
>> shift back to Rotella... oil loss...
>> 
>> So.. Rotella is on my "don't like list".. for the trucks, and everything
>> else in the diesel fleet.
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 5:40 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Why are you not a fan of Rotella? What oil do you like?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
 
 Change the fuel filter now... and travel with a spare..
 
 Oil "should make the trip" with the miles it has since last change...
 However.. it's been driven only short trips and been setting a lot, which
 is perfect to absorb moisture I would change oil and filter before
 taking the road.
 I'm not a fan of Rotella... you get to pick what you put in it.  Diesel
 synthetic has won me over... 15-40 wt...
 
 I'm a Ford Powerstroke guy and I have friends who drive Cummins Dodges...
 have a look at:
 www.Oilburners.net
 Discussion board that has a very active group for Cummins and good folks
 [has another one for Fords, where I visit]
 
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> My pops and I swapped trucks. He wanted my 2016 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi 80k
> miles,  I get his2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.7 4x4  112k miles, and a
>>> $4k
> check. Drove here to Illinois to make the swap. He was trying to guilt
>>> me
> into it saying I’d feel bad if my 85 year old father somehow fell and
>>> broke
> a hip while climbing into a 2500 4x4 while knowing he wanted my truck.
> He bought it new when he still lived in AZ. Up until last year he towed
> around a backhoe he had that he used to dig holes to set septic tanks.
> Right around Thanksgiving last year he sold the backhoe, finally ready
>>> to
> really retire at 85. Since then, he has barley driven it except for the
> occasional trip to Menards.
> Three questions. I know nothing yet about Cummins 5.7 engines yet. The
>>> oil
> (Rotella non-synthetic) is a year old, a little less than 1000 miles on
>>> it.
> Should I change the oil before I head back or change it after the 1850
>>> mile
> trip back...or both? Also, should i change  or anticipate having to
>>> change
> the fuel filter on the way back?  What else should i be concerned about
> before we take off?
> 
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a Cummins

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I use Chevon Delo in my OM617s.

I have a 30 year old grudge against Shell so I avoid their products.

Allan

G Mann via Mercedes  writes:

> Besides the Mercedes fleet I also own and operate 5 Ford F350 with the 7.3
> diesel engine and one F 450, also 7.3 engine.
> Rotella oil in those engines leaks and blows out... fresh oil change and
> 1,500 miles I lose a quart.. all the engines are in good shape, wear and
> maintenance wise..
> When I removed the Rotella oil and shifted to Castrol Diesel oil... each
> engine immediately did not lose oil, or leak oil. Since then, I've tried
> other diesel oils [all 15 / 40 wt] with no oil loss... as soon as I do a
> shift back to Rotella... oil loss...
>
> So.. Rotella is on my "don't like list".. for the trucks, and everything
> else in the diesel fleet.
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 5:40 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Why are you not a fan of Rotella? What oil do you like?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Change the fuel filter now... and travel with a spare..
>> >
>> > Oil "should make the trip" with the miles it has since last change...
>> > However.. it's been driven only short trips and been setting a lot, which
>> > is perfect to absorb moisture I would change oil and filter before
>> > taking the road.
>> > I'm not a fan of Rotella... you get to pick what you put in it.  Diesel
>> > synthetic has won me over... 15-40 wt...
>> >
>> > I'm a Ford Powerstroke guy and I have friends who drive Cummins Dodges...
>> > have a look at:
>> > www.Oilburners.net
>> > Discussion board that has a very active group for Cummins and good folks
>> > [has another one for Fords, where I visit]
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My pops and I swapped trucks. He wanted my 2016 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi 80k
>> >> miles,  I get his2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.7 4x4  112k miles, and a
>> $4k
>> >> check. Drove here to Illinois to make the swap. He was trying to guilt
>> me
>> >> into it saying I’d feel bad if my 85 year old father somehow fell and
>> broke
>> >> a hip while climbing into a 2500 4x4 while knowing he wanted my truck.
>> >> He bought it new when he still lived in AZ. Up until last year he towed
>> >> around a backhoe he had that he used to dig holes to set septic tanks.
>> >> Right around Thanksgiving last year he sold the backhoe, finally ready
>> to
>> >> really retire at 85. Since then, he has barley driven it except for the
>> >> occasional trip to Menards.
>> >> Three questions. I know nothing yet about Cummins 5.7 engines yet. The
>> oil
>> >> (Rotella non-synthetic) is a year old, a little less than 1000 miles on
>> it.
>> >> Should I change the oil before I head back or change it after the 1850
>> mile
>> >> trip back...or both? Also, should i change  or anticipate having to
>> change
>> >> the fuel filter on the way back?  What else should i be concerned about
>> >> before we take off?
>> >>
>> >> Bob R
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I was thinking it is  a small car but maybe I am wrong. It is a bit hard 
to tell how big that car is from the photos. Does it have a back seat? I 
think the guys who just did the run in the Audi had someone in the back 
seat working the electronics etc (my recall from reading the article a 
while back without checking again). How big is the trunk for an 
additional fuel cell?


RB



On 05/10/2020 12:33 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Randy - good point, what's been done in the past is the "teams" that make
these runs will add extra fuel tanks to the trunk to increase range, and at
fuel stops they simultaneously fill all the tanks.  I think they set up
electric transfer pumps to move fuel from the added tanks to the original
fuel tank while driving.  One reason that the Mercedes high-end cars are
favored (other than safety, comfort, and high speed) is the self-leveling
suspension which can handle the increased weight of the fuel and not
compromise handling / braking too much.

Check out youtube university for additional content.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 12:10 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Might not be able to haul enough fuel in that one. Would spend too much
time at re-filling stops.
I wonder what the fuel economy numbers might be at high speed?

RB

On 05/10/2020 8:34 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

There's your Cannon ball run car.  A little creative use of duct tape

and she'll look like a Honda Accord for added stealth.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Oct 5, 2020 8:40:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
"Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently at

Leith Mercedes including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"

My loss, your loss



https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/wake-forest-mercedes-v12-bi-turbo/7208279068.html

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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There was a new Cannonball record set recently (by a big margin, the 
covids had the roads fairly clear) by some guys who did it before in an 
E63 (I think?) that was set up with extra tanks and ECM (electronic 
counter measures) and all kinds of nav and comms gear.  They were going 
to use the E63 again but it had been wrecked or something, so they took 
an Audi that somebody had and swapped stuff over in a week or two then 
headed out.  There is a utuber vid on it, pretty cool, I might have 
posted it a few weeks ago.


It's hard to imagine that record will be beat anytime soon given they 
were taking advantage of very light traffic, esp in the bigger cities 
like NYC where they left from.


--FT

On 10/5/20 12:09 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
Might not be able to haul enough fuel in that one. Would spend too 
much time at re-filling stops.

I wonder what the fuel economy numbers might be at high speed?

RB

On 05/10/2020 8:34 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
There's your Cannon ball run car.  A little creative use of duct tape 
and she'll look like a Honda Accord for added stealth.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Oct 5, 2020 8:40:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
:


"Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently 
at Leith Mercedes including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"


My loss, your loss

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/wake-forest-mercedes-v12-bi-turbo/7208279068.html 



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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Dealer didn't have the filter in stock. Waiting for online order delivery.

Allan

Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> Allen, any update on the filter change?
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Fundamentally the fuel consumption is going to be determined by the power
required, which is determined by the air resistance of the vehicle at that
speed, assuming both cars have a reasonable final drive gear ratio. The
engine doesn't matter much.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020, 9:10 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Might not be able to haul enough fuel in that one. Would spend too much
> time at re-filling stops.
> I wonder what the fuel economy numbers might be at high speed?
>
> RB
>
> On 05/10/2020 8:34 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > There's your Cannon ball run car.  A little creative use of duct tape
> and she'll look like a Honda Accord for added stealth.
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Oct 5, 2020 8:40:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  >:
> >
> >> "Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently at
> Leith Mercedes including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"
> >>
> >> My loss, your loss
> >>
> >>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/wake-forest-mercedes-v12-bi-turbo/7208279068.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a Cummins

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Besides the Mercedes fleet I also own and operate 5 Ford F350 with the 7.3
diesel engine and one F 450, also 7.3 engine.
Rotella oil in those engines leaks and blows out... fresh oil change and
1,500 miles I lose a quart.. all the engines are in good shape, wear and
maintenance wise..
When I removed the Rotella oil and shifted to Castrol Diesel oil... each
engine immediately did not lose oil, or leak oil. Since then, I've tried
other diesel oils [all 15 / 40 wt] with no oil loss... as soon as I do a
shift back to Rotella... oil loss...

So.. Rotella is on my "don't like list".. for the trucks, and everything
else in the diesel fleet.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 5:40 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why are you not a fan of Rotella? What oil do you like?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Change the fuel filter now... and travel with a spare..
> >
> > Oil "should make the trip" with the miles it has since last change...
> > However.. it's been driven only short trips and been setting a lot, which
> > is perfect to absorb moisture I would change oil and filter before
> > taking the road.
> > I'm not a fan of Rotella... you get to pick what you put in it.  Diesel
> > synthetic has won me over... 15-40 wt...
> >
> > I'm a Ford Powerstroke guy and I have friends who drive Cummins Dodges...
> > have a look at:
> > www.Oilburners.net
> > Discussion board that has a very active group for Cummins and good folks
> > [has another one for Fords, where I visit]
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My pops and I swapped trucks. He wanted my 2016 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi 80k
> >> miles,  I get his2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.7 4x4  112k miles, and a
> $4k
> >> check. Drove here to Illinois to make the swap. He was trying to guilt
> me
> >> into it saying I’d feel bad if my 85 year old father somehow fell and
> broke
> >> a hip while climbing into a 2500 4x4 while knowing he wanted my truck.
> >> He bought it new when he still lived in AZ. Up until last year he towed
> >> around a backhoe he had that he used to dig holes to set septic tanks.
> >> Right around Thanksgiving last year he sold the backhoe, finally ready
> to
> >> really retire at 85. Since then, he has barley driven it except for the
> >> occasional trip to Menards.
> >> Three questions. I know nothing yet about Cummins 5.7 engines yet. The
> oil
> >> (Rotella non-synthetic) is a year old, a little less than 1000 miles on
> it.
> >> Should I change the oil before I head back or change it after the 1850
> mile
> >> trip back...or both? Also, should i change  or anticipate having to
> change
> >> the fuel filter on the way back?  What else should i be concerned about
> >> before we take off?
> >>
> >> Bob R
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Randy - good point, what's been done in the past is the "teams" that make
these runs will add extra fuel tanks to the trunk to increase range, and at
fuel stops they simultaneously fill all the tanks.  I think they set up
electric transfer pumps to move fuel from the added tanks to the original
fuel tank while driving.  One reason that the Mercedes high-end cars are
favored (other than safety, comfort, and high speed) is the self-leveling
suspension which can handle the increased weight of the fuel and not
compromise handling / braking too much.

Check out youtube university for additional content.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 12:10 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Might not be able to haul enough fuel in that one. Would spend too much
> time at re-filling stops.
> I wonder what the fuel economy numbers might be at high speed?
>
> RB
>
> On 05/10/2020 8:34 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > There's your Cannon ball run car.  A little creative use of duct tape
> and she'll look like a Honda Accord for added stealth.
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Oct 5, 2020 8:40:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  >:
> >
> >> "Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently at
> Leith Mercedes including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"
> >>
> >> My loss, your loss
> >>
> >>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/wake-forest-mercedes-v12-bi-turbo/7208279068.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> --FT
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: German Cars For Sale Blog

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

It is a 6k car all day long out here if it has been maintained well.
Personally I would go with the m113k forced induction version though. That
motor is bulletproof and one of the few machines that could give a Tesla a
run for its money at the stoplight

Interestingly a friend with the slowest model X raced a vintage Mustang
hotrod at a light the other day. He said it was pretty even until the other
guy had to shift into second gear, at which point the mustang was no longer
a factor in the race.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020, 9:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> A little, but not bad. These are fairly rare any more, and this one
> appears to be in very nice condition and with low (>100k) miles.
>
> Show up with $5k cash and see what they do. It’s worth that.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 5, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > $6k?  Seems steep
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 10/5/20 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> AZ Bob needs to run down and make a deal on this ASAP:
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>> From: German Cars For Sale Blog 
> >>> Subject: German Cars For Sale Blog
> >>> Date: October 5, 2020 at 11:46:07 AM EDT
> >>> To: d...@penoff.com
> >>> Reply-To: German Cars For Sale Blog 
> >>>
> >>> German Cars For Sale Blog 
> >>> 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 <
> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/GermanCarsForSaleBlog/~3/tCzLi9_j4t8/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email
> >
> >>> Posted: 05 Oct 2020 07:00 AM PDT
> >>>  
> >>> I think the days of V8s in mid-size sedans are numbered. With
> emissions regulations and fuel economy standards becoming more stringent as
> the years go on, you’ll be seeing smaller and smaller displacement engines
> along with hybrid systems becoming the norm in almost every car except the
> ultra-high performance models. Look right now, the current Mercedes-Benz
> E-Class lineup lacks a V8 until you get to the top of the range E63 AMG,
> which starts at $110,000. Even ten years ago, you could get your E500 with
> a 5.0 V8 and call it a day. Not anymore, two 2.0L inline-fours and an 3.0L
> inline-six are what awaits your down payment. Buyers don’t really care, as
> long as the car looks good and the lease numbers and performance are good,
> sign ’em up.
> >>>
> >>> So rewind 20 years and head back to the new Millennium where the
> E-Class lineup was simple. There was the 3.2L V6 E320, 4.3L V8 E430, and
> 5.4L V8 E55 AMG. Done. The buyers for E320s and E55s were very different
> people, as the E320 was $47,000, while the E55 was a significant amount
> more at $72,000. Turns out its not cheap to pay a bunch of Germans in a
> small town to hand-assemble a car. So what about the E430? $53,000.
> Suddenly that extra six grand seems like a worthwhile upgrade over the
> E320. You had more than respectable numbers at the time with 275 horsepower
> and 295 lb.-ft of torque. Still, every time you saw an E55, which lets be
> honest probably never because of the extremely low production numbers, you
> wanted those 18″ Monoblocks and special body kit. Now that is 20 years
> later, does it still make sense to buy an E430? I think so, especially this
> one.
> >>>
> >>> CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 on eBay <
> https://bit.ly/33qkREz>
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>> Year: 2000
> >>> Model: E430
> >>> VIN: WDBJF70J8YA968307
> >>> Engine: 4.3 liter V8
> >>> Transmission: 5-speed automatic
> >>> Mileage: 103,843 mi
> >>> Location: Mesa, Arizona
> >>> Price: $5,995 Buy It Now
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>> Just arrived! This 1 owner California car with clean carfax and
> extensive history of dealer service. Super clean cosmetics and nice running
> example of classic Mercedes build quality. AZ Euros has inspected, serviced
> and replaced motor mount, ac compressor and full synthetic oil change and
> the E430 is ready to hit the road.
> >>>
> >>> Power memory seats, Elegance package, sunroof and two keys.
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>> For 100,000 miles, this is a super clean example. Usually almost any
> W210 by now has had a hard life and is maybe on its last legs, but
> thankfully not this one. The seats looks great, and even the engine bay is
> spotless. Not a leaking valve cover gasket to be found. Kind of funny that
> this car wasn’t optioned with heated seats, but I guess you had to pay to
> play back then. The only real flaw I see is the the missing badge on top of
> the shift knob, but that fixable with a dab of glue.
> >>>
> >>> For $6,000, this is a good buy all day. You have slightly lower
> running costs than the big brother E55, while still having that torquey
> M119 V8. I think the thing here is that you have to be satisfied with it
> just being an E430 and not constantly reminding yourself it isn’t the E55.
> I know you won’t be touching a similar condition E55 for this price now.
> >>>
> >>> – Andrew
> >>>
> >>>

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: German Cars For Sale Blog

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A little, but not bad. These are fairly rare any more, and this one appears to 
be in very nice condition and with low (>100k) miles.

Show up with $5k cash and see what they do. It’s worth that.

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> $6k?  Seems steep
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 10/5/20 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> AZ Bob needs to run down and make a deal on this ASAP:
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: German Cars For Sale Blog 
>>> Subject: German Cars For Sale Blog
>>> Date: October 5, 2020 at 11:46:07 AM EDT
>>> To: d...@penoff.com
>>> Reply-To: German Cars For Sale Blog 
>>> 
>>> German Cars For Sale Blog   
>>> 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 
>>> 
>>> Posted: 05 Oct 2020 07:00 AM PDT
>>>  
>>> I think the days of V8s in mid-size sedans are numbered. With emissions 
>>> regulations and fuel economy standards becoming more stringent as the years 
>>> go on, you’ll be seeing smaller and smaller displacement engines along with 
>>> hybrid systems becoming the norm in almost every car except the ultra-high 
>>> performance models. Look right now, the current Mercedes-Benz E-Class 
>>> lineup lacks a V8 until you get to the top of the range E63 AMG, which 
>>> starts at $110,000. Even ten years ago, you could get your E500 with a 5.0 
>>> V8 and call it a day. Not anymore, two 2.0L inline-fours and an 3.0L 
>>> inline-six are what awaits your down payment. Buyers don’t really care, as 
>>> long as the car looks good and the lease numbers and performance are good, 
>>> sign ’em up.
>>> 
>>> So rewind 20 years and head back to the new Millennium where the E-Class 
>>> lineup was simple. There was the 3.2L V6 E320, 4.3L V8 E430, and 5.4L V8 
>>> E55 AMG. Done. The buyers for E320s and E55s were very different people, as 
>>> the E320 was $47,000, while the E55 was a significant amount more at 
>>> $72,000. Turns out its not cheap to pay a bunch of Germans in a small town 
>>> to hand-assemble a car. So what about the E430? $53,000. Suddenly that 
>>> extra six grand seems like a worthwhile upgrade over the E320. You had more 
>>> than respectable numbers at the time with 275 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft of 
>>> torque. Still, every time you saw an E55, which lets be honest probably 
>>> never because of the extremely low production numbers, you wanted those 18″ 
>>> Monoblocks and special body kit. Now that is 20 years later, does it still 
>>> make sense to buy an E430? I think so, especially this one.
>>> 
>>> CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 on eBay 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Year: 2000
>>> Model: E430
>>> VIN: WDBJF70J8YA968307
>>> Engine: 4.3 liter V8
>>> Transmission: 5-speed automatic
>>> Mileage: 103,843 mi
>>> Location: Mesa, Arizona
>>> Price: $5,995 Buy It Now
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Just arrived! This 1 owner California car with clean carfax and extensive 
>>> history of dealer service. Super clean cosmetics and nice running example 
>>> of classic Mercedes build quality. AZ Euros has inspected, serviced and 
>>> replaced motor mount, ac compressor and full synthetic oil change and the 
>>> E430 is ready to hit the road.
>>> 
>>> Power memory seats, Elegance package, sunroof and two keys.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> For 100,000 miles, this is a super clean example. Usually almost any W210 
>>> by now has had a hard life and is maybe on its last legs, but thankfully 
>>> not this one. The seats looks great, and even the engine bay is spotless. 
>>> Not a leaking valve cover gasket to be found. Kind of funny that this car 
>>> wasn’t optioned with heated seats, but I guess you had to pay to play back 
>>> then. The only real flaw I see is the the missing badge on top of the shift 
>>> knob, but that fixable with a dab of glue.
>>> 
>>> For $6,000, this is a good buy all day. You have slightly lower running 
>>> costs than the big brother E55, while still having that torquey M119 V8. I 
>>> think the thing here is that you have to be satisfied with it just being an 
>>> E430 and not constantly reminding yourself it isn’t the E55. I know you 
>>> won’t be touching a similar condition E55 for this price now.
>>> 
>>> – Andrew
>>> 
>>>    
>>>   
>>>   
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Might not be able to haul enough fuel in that one. Would spend too much 
time at re-filling stops.

I wonder what the fuel economy numbers might be at high speed?

RB

On 05/10/2020 8:34 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

There's your Cannon ball run car.  A little creative use of duct tape and 
she'll look like a Honda Accord for added stealth.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Oct 5, 2020 8:40:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :


"Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently at Leith Mercedes 
including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"

My loss, your loss

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/wake-forest-mercedes-v12-bi-turbo/7208279068.html

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: German Cars For Sale Blog

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$6k?  Seems steep

--FT

On 10/5/20 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

AZ Bob needs to run down and make a deal on this ASAP:

-D


Begin forwarded message:

From: German Cars For Sale Blog 
Subject: German Cars For Sale Blog
Date: October 5, 2020 at 11:46:07 AM EDT
To: d...@penoff.com
Reply-To: German Cars For Sale Blog 

German Cars For Sale Blog 
2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 

Posted: 05 Oct 2020 07:00 AM PDT
  
I think the days of V8s in mid-size sedans are numbered. With emissions 
regulations and fuel economy standards becoming more stringent as the years go 
on, you’ll be seeing smaller and smaller displacement engines along with hybrid 
systems becoming the norm in almost every car except the ultra-high performance 
models. Look right now, the current Mercedes-Benz E-Class lineup lacks a V8 
until you get to the top of the range E63 AMG, which starts at $110,000. Even 
ten years ago, you could get your E500 with a 5.0 V8 and call it a day. Not 
anymore, two 2.0L inline-fours and an 3.0L inline-six are what awaits your down 
payment. Buyers don’t really care, as long as the car looks good and the lease 
numbers and performance are good, sign ’em up.

So rewind 20 years and head back to the new Millennium where the E-Class lineup 
was simple. There was the 3.2L V6 E320, 4.3L V8 E430, and 5.4L V8 E55 AMG. 
Done. The buyers for E320s and E55s were very different people, as the E320 was 
$47,000, while the E55 was a significant amount more at $72,000. Turns out its 
not cheap to pay a bunch of Germans in a small town to hand-assemble a car. So 
what about the E430? $53,000. Suddenly that extra six grand seems like a 
worthwhile upgrade over the E320. You had more than respectable numbers at the 
time with 275 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft of torque. Still, every time you saw an 
E55, which lets be honest probably never because of the extremely low 
production numbers, you wanted those 18″ Monoblocks and special body kit. Now 
that is 20 years later, does it still make sense to buy an E430? I think so, 
especially this one.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 on eBay 

  
Year: 2000
Model: E430
VIN: WDBJF70J8YA968307
Engine: 4.3 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 103,843 mi
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Price: $5,995 Buy It Now

  
Just arrived! This 1 owner California car with clean carfax and extensive 
history of dealer service. Super clean cosmetics and nice running example of 
classic Mercedes build quality. AZ Euros has inspected, serviced and replaced 
motor mount, ac compressor and full synthetic oil change and the E430 is ready 
to hit the road.

Power memory seats, Elegance package, sunroof and two keys.

  
For 100,000 miles, this is a super clean example. Usually almost any W210 by 
now has had a hard life and is maybe on its last legs, but thankfully not this 
one. The seats looks great, and even the engine bay is spotless. Not a leaking 
valve cover gasket to be found. Kind of funny that this car wasn’t optioned 
with heated seats, but I guess you had to pay to play back then. The only real 
flaw I see is the the missing badge on top of the shift knob, but that fixable 
with a dab of glue.

For $6,000, this is a good buy all day. You have slightly lower running costs 
than the big brother E55, while still having that torquey M119 V8. I think the 
thing here is that you have to be satisfied with it just being an E430 and not 
constantly reminding yourself it isn’t the E55. I know you won’t be touching a 
similar condition E55 for this price now.

– Andrew

    
  
  

  

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[MBZ] Another rathole

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://carsandbids.com/search/?q=mercedes

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[MBZ] Hey Dan -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz SLK350, Rare 6-Speed Manual with ~69, 100 Miles

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Vero Beach, current bid $3800 with 3 days to go.  Question asked about 
the balance shafts.


https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KPbzW56V/2006-mercedes-benz-slk350

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[MBZ] Fwd: German Cars For Sale Blog

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

AZ Bob needs to run down and make a deal on this ASAP:

-D

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: German Cars For Sale Blog 
> Subject: German Cars For Sale Blog
> Date: October 5, 2020 at 11:46:07 AM EDT
> To: d...@penoff.com
> Reply-To: German Cars For Sale Blog 
> 
> German Cars For Sale Blog 
> 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 
> 
> Posted: 05 Oct 2020 07:00 AM PDT
>  
> I think the days of V8s in mid-size sedans are numbered. With emissions 
> regulations and fuel economy standards becoming more stringent as the years 
> go on, you’ll be seeing smaller and smaller displacement engines along with 
> hybrid systems becoming the norm in almost every car except the ultra-high 
> performance models. Look right now, the current Mercedes-Benz E-Class lineup 
> lacks a V8 until you get to the top of the range E63 AMG, which starts at 
> $110,000. Even ten years ago, you could get your E500 with a 5.0 V8 and call 
> it a day. Not anymore, two 2.0L inline-fours and an 3.0L inline-six are what 
> awaits your down payment. Buyers don’t really care, as long as the car looks 
> good and the lease numbers and performance are good, sign ’em up.
> 
> So rewind 20 years and head back to the new Millennium where the E-Class 
> lineup was simple. There was the 3.2L V6 E320, 4.3L V8 E430, and 5.4L V8 E55 
> AMG. Done. The buyers for E320s and E55s were very different people, as the 
> E320 was $47,000, while the E55 was a significant amount more at $72,000. 
> Turns out its not cheap to pay a bunch of Germans in a small town to 
> hand-assemble a car. So what about the E430? $53,000. Suddenly that extra six 
> grand seems like a worthwhile upgrade over the E320. You had more than 
> respectable numbers at the time with 275 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft of torque. 
> Still, every time you saw an E55, which lets be honest probably never because 
> of the extremely low production numbers, you wanted those 18″ Monoblocks and 
> special body kit. Now that is 20 years later, does it still make sense to buy 
> an E430? I think so, especially this one.
> 
> CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 on eBay 
> 
>  
> Year: 2000
> Model: E430
> VIN: WDBJF70J8YA968307
> Engine: 4.3 liter V8
> Transmission: 5-speed automatic
> Mileage: 103,843 mi
> Location: Mesa, Arizona
> Price: $5,995 Buy It Now
> 
>  
> Just arrived! This 1 owner California car with clean carfax and extensive 
> history of dealer service. Super clean cosmetics and nice running example of 
> classic Mercedes build quality. AZ Euros has inspected, serviced and replaced 
> motor mount, ac compressor and full synthetic oil change and the E430 is 
> ready to hit the road.
> 
> Power memory seats, Elegance package, sunroof and two keys.
> 
>  
> For 100,000 miles, this is a super clean example. Usually almost any W210 by 
> now has had a hard life and is maybe on its last legs, but thankfully not 
> this one. The seats looks great, and even the engine bay is spotless. Not a 
> leaking valve cover gasket to be found. Kind of funny that this car wasn’t 
> optioned with heated seats, but I guess you had to pay to play back then. The 
> only real flaw I see is the the missing badge on top of the shift knob, but 
> that fixable with a dab of glue.
> 
> For $6,000, this is a good buy all day. You have slightly lower running costs 
> than the big brother E55, while still having that torquey M119 V8. I think 
> the thing here is that you have to be satisfied with it just being an E430 
> and not constantly reminding yourself it isn’t the E55. I know you won’t be 
> touching a similar condition E55 for this price now.
> 
> – Andrew
> 
>    
>   
>   
> 
>  
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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Allen, any update on the filter change?
Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

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I always thought maybe a lexus sc400 with a 2jz would be a good choice. or
whatever that 2 door coupe is. But maybe it would be too recognizable.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 6:35 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> There's your Cannon ball run car.  A little creative use of duct tape and
> she'll look like a Honda Accord for added stealth.
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Oct 5, 2020 8:40:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
>
> > "Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently at
> Leith Mercedes including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"
> >
> > My loss, your loss
> >
> >
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/wake-forest-mercedes-v12-bi-turbo/7208279068.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

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There's your Cannon ball run car.  A little creative use of duct tape and 
she'll look like a Honda Accord for added stealth.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Oct 5, 2020 8:40:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> "Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently at Leith 
> Mercedes including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"
> 
> My loss, your loss
> 
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/wake-forest-mercedes-v12-bi-turbo/7208279068.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT 2008 Hyundai Accent

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 Not much of anything up here running and driving for less than $2000...
-Curt

On Monday, October 5, 2020, 9:08:29 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 great deal. Market right now is not bad for $2k cars I am told

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On 10/4/20 4:40 PM, Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via 
Mercedes wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I finally got my 2200 lb letterpress packed in the crate and had the crate 
> heat treated in JAX for export to Korea. I dropped it off at a terminal and 
> since I was in the GMC Isuzu rollback, I stopped off at a printer friend and 
> picked up my new 2008 Hyundai Accent with 190k miles and ice cold AC that I 
> bought from a letterpress printer friend for ... get this $350!! It was his 
> car, I think from new and was dealer maintained. It had a busted driver side 
> outside door handle . He said the dealer wanted $250 to replace that. I 
> bought a handle for about $8.50 on fleabay. The installation turned into a 
> nightmare. You had to slide lock it into place using the plastic inside the 
> door backing plate. It took me forever to realize that the lock cylinder had 
> to be removed, the handle locked into place and then the cylinder needs to be 
> reinstalled.  Now I could do one in 10 minutes. You can see the door handle 
> drama on my Instagram printerrickthe. The car is manual transmission and 
> needs a couple of $37.50 tires. I sort of want to drive it some but I have 
> too many cars and too few drivers.  It even has working satellite radio which 
> he says should be on for a while. What is it worth? Maybe $2k ? No body 
> damage ... perfect little car.
>
> And here it is if the photo sends! Xx rick
>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a Cummins

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 I'm not a fan of 15w40 but then I live where it gets cold. I'm reasonably sure 
the ASV has 15w40 conventional and it cranks slow in the cold and really 
requires the block heater. That oil only has maybe 100 hours on it but its 5 
years old now, I'm thinking of changing it with synthetic. John Deere (its a JD 
engine) recommends 10w40 or 0w40.

My 2015 VW Jetta TDI REQUIRES 10w30 which I find difficult to swallow after 
years of MB diesels. Otherwise I'd run 5w40 in everything except the pickup 
which wants 5w20.
-Curt

On Monday, October 5, 2020, 8:40:18 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Why are you not a fan of Rotella? What oil do you like? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Change the fuel filter now... and travel with a spare..
> 
> Oil "should make the trip" with the miles it has since last change...
> However.. it's been driven only short trips and been setting a lot, which
> is perfect to absorb moisture I would change oil and filter before
> taking the road.
> I'm not a fan of Rotella... you get to pick what you put in it.  Diesel
> synthetic has won me over... 15-40 wt...
> 
> I'm a Ford Powerstroke guy and I have friends who drive Cummins Dodges...
> have a look at:
> www.Oilburners.net
> Discussion board that has a very active group for Cummins and good folks
> [has another one for Fords, where I visit]
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My pops and I swapped trucks. He wanted my 2016 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi 80k
>> miles,  I get his2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.7 4x4  112k miles, and a $4k
>> check. Drove here to Illinois to make the swap. He was trying to guilt me
>> into it saying I’d feel bad if my 85 year old father somehow fell and broke
>> a hip while climbing into a 2500 4x4 while knowing he wanted my truck.
>> He bought it new when he still lived in AZ. Up until last year he towed
>> around a backhoe he had that he used to dig holes to set septic tanks.
>> Right around Thanksgiving last year he sold the backhoe, finally ready to
>> really retire at 85. Since then, he has barley driven it except for the
>> occasional trip to Menards.
>> Three questions. I know nothing yet about Cummins 5.7 engines yet. The oil
>> (Rotella non-synthetic) is a year old, a little less than 1000 miles on it.
>> Should I change the oil before I head back or change it after the 1850 mile
>> trip back...or both? Also, should i change  or anticipate having to change
>> the fuel filter on the way back?  What else should i be concerned about
>> before we take off?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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[MBZ] 1965 Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.3 Sedan 4D, $1, 500, Vehicles, Listed 2 hours ago in Taylorsville, NC

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A little ratty and banged up

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/360502038429267

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[MBZ] 1961 Mercedes-Benz S-Class, $1, 200, Vehicles, Listed 18 hours ago in Wellford, SC

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Rusty and somewhat ratty but complete

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/665290164417998

1961 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
$1,200
Vehicles 
Listed 18 hours ago in Wellford, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 37,631 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Diesel


   Seller's description…

1961 mercedes 220se $1,200. lost title, complete car has all trim and 
factory hubcaps an trim rings 13" factory wheels. Don't know much about 
car, bought to redo for wife and she change her mind about the car, no 
low ball offers car isn't in my way at all dont mind if it sits an i 
keep it, and yes its still available will take add down when its gone.. 
it will need to be towed havent tried to get it running, bought to LS 
swop it, so don't know anything about engine


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Re: [MBZ] OT 2008 Hyundai Accent

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

great deal. Market right now is not bad for $2k cars I am told

--FT

On 10/4/20 4:40 PM, Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via 
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Folks,

I finally got my 2200 lb letterpress packed in the crate and had the crate heat 
treated in JAX for export to Korea. I dropped it off at a terminal and since I 
was in the GMC Isuzu rollback, I stopped off at a printer friend and picked up 
my new 2008 Hyundai Accent with 190k miles and ice cold AC that I bought from a 
letterpress printer friend for ... get this $350!! It was his car, I think from 
new and was dealer maintained. It had a busted driver side outside door handle 
. He said the dealer wanted $250 to replace that. I bought a handle for about 
$8.50 on fleabay. The installation turned into a nightmare. You had to slide 
lock it into place using the plastic inside the door backing plate. It took me 
forever to realize that the lock cylinder had to be removed, the handle locked 
into place and then the cylinder needs to be reinstalled.  Now I could do one 
in 10 minutes. You can see the door handle drama on my Instagram 
printerrickthe. The car is manual transmission and needs a couple of $37.50 
tires. I sort of want to drive it some but I have too many cars and too few 
drivers.  It even has working satellite radio which he says should be on for a 
while. What is it worth? Maybe $2k ? No body damage ... perfect little car.

And here it is if the photo sends! Xx rick



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Re: [MBZ] OT 2008 Hyundai Accent

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks like a great little car, what's the fuel consumption like?  No need for 
another car here though.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Oct 5, 2020 8:12:54 AM Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via Mercedes 
:

> Folks,
> 
> I finally got my 2200 lb letterpress packed in the crate and had the crate 
> heat treated in JAX for export to Korea. I dropped it off at a terminal and 
> since I was in the GMC Isuzu rollback, I stopped off at a printer friend and 
> picked up my new 2008 Hyundai Accent with 190k miles and ice cold AC that I 
> bought from a letterpress printer friend for ... get this $350!! It was his 
> car, I think from new and was dealer maintained. It had a busted driver side 
> outside door handle . He said the dealer wanted $250 to replace that. I 
> bought a handle for about $8.50 on fleabay. The installation turned into a 
> nightmare. You had to slide lock it into place using the plastic inside the 
> door backing plate. It took me forever to realize that the lock cylinder had 
> to be removed, the handle locked into place and then the cylinder needs to be 
> reinstalled.  Now I could do one in 10 minutes. You can see the door handle 
> drama on my Instagram printerrickthe. The car is manual transmission and 
> needs a couple of $37.50 tires. I sort of want to drive it some but I have 
> too many cars and too few drivers.  It even has working satellite radio which 
> he says should be on for a while. What is it worth? Maybe $2k ? No body 
> damage ... perfect little car.
> 
> And here it is if the photo sends! Xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] 280SEL Restoration Project

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Not bad. I would sure like to see pics of the rust. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Lousy pictures, but the price is pretty good:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1970-one-owner-mercedes-280sel/7208287502.html
> 
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[MBZ] Hey I’m Vince and I’m selling my 2003 Mercedes Benz s430

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HELLO VINCE

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2003-mercedes-benz-for-sale/7208085588.html

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[MBZ] I am underwater Mercedes V12 Bi Turbo - $29,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"Over $13,000.00 worth of new parts and service completed recently at 
Leith Mercedes including brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires"


My loss, your loss

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/wake-forest-mercedes-v12-bi-turbo/7208279068.html

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a Cummins

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Why are you not a fan of Rotella? What oil do you like? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Change the fuel filter now... and travel with a spare..
> 
> Oil "should make the trip" with the miles it has since last change...
> However.. it's been driven only short trips and been setting a lot, which
> is perfect to absorb moisture I would change oil and filter before
> taking the road.
> I'm not a fan of Rotella... you get to pick what you put in it.  Diesel
> synthetic has won me over... 15-40 wt...
> 
> I'm a Ford Powerstroke guy and I have friends who drive Cummins Dodges...
> have a look at:
> www.Oilburners.net
> Discussion board that has a very active group for Cummins and good folks
> [has another one for Fords, where I visit]
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:26 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My pops and I swapped trucks. He wanted my 2016 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi 80k
>> miles,  I get his2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.7 4x4  112k miles, and a $4k
>> check. Drove here to Illinois to make the swap. He was trying to guilt me
>> into it saying I’d feel bad if my 85 year old father somehow fell and broke
>> a hip while climbing into a 2500 4x4 while knowing he wanted my truck.
>> He bought it new when he still lived in AZ. Up until last year he towed
>> around a backhoe he had that he used to dig holes to set septic tanks.
>> Right around Thanksgiving last year he sold the backhoe, finally ready to
>> really retire at 85. Since then, he has barley driven it except for the
>> occasional trip to Menards.
>> Three questions. I know nothing yet about Cummins 5.7 engines yet. The oil
>> (Rotella non-synthetic) is a year old, a little less than 1000 miles on it.
>> Should I change the oil before I head back or change it after the 1850 mile
>> trip back...or both? Also, should i change  or anticipate having to change
>> the fuel filter on the way back?  What else should i be concerned about
>> before we take off?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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[MBZ] 2002 Mercedes ML500 - $1,600 (Wilmington)

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Cheap winter beater? (for those with winter)

https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/wilmington-2002-mercedes-ml500/7208346442.html

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[MBZ] 1969 *Mercedes* *406* *D* ** *FULLY* RESTORED DIESEL! - $24, 900 (Mercedes 406 D)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

0-30 measured in days

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/statesville-1969-mercedes-406-fully/7208405177.html

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Re: [MBZ] 280SEL Restoration Project

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

One man's rust is another man's patina.  I'd go take a look, if nothing else 
that's a BaT flip.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Oct 5, 2020 8:22:29 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> You ought to go look at it anyway.  Would be a fun buff-up, if it has rust so 
> be it.  It has a cool factor to drive around.  LOBALL him after pointing out 
> the issues...
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 10/5/20 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Agreed. A W108 with the inline six is an excellent compromise between style 
>> and economy. While it would be nice to have the power of  V8, maintaining 
>> the V8s is getting to be an expensive and sometimes frustrating endeavor.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:17 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> True, but it’s still a cool ride.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yeah, but there’s nothing showing the rust on the door bottoms or 
 elsewhere. Need more information.
 
 -D
 
> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You know you want that car. And NEED it. I like it.
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> Lousy pictures, but the price is pretty good:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1970-one-owner-mercedes-280sel/7208287502.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 280SEL Restoration Project

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You ought to go look at it anyway.  Would be a fun buff-up, if it has 
rust so be it.  It has a cool factor to drive around.  LOBALL him after 
pointing out the issues...


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On 10/5/20 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Agreed. A W108 with the inline six is an excellent compromise between style and 
economy. While it would be nice to have the power of  V8, maintaining the V8s 
is getting to be an expensive and sometimes frustrating endeavor.

-D


On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:17 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

True, but it’s still a cool ride.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yeah, but there’s nothing showing the rust on the door bottoms or elsewhere. 
Need more information.

-D


On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You know you want that car. And NEED it. I like it.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Oct 5, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Lousy pictures, but the price is pretty good:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1970-one-owner-mercedes-280sel/7208287502.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 280SEL Restoration Project

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed. A W108 with the inline six is an excellent compromise between style and 
economy. While it would be nice to have the power of  V8, maintaining the V8s 
is getting to be an expensive and sometimes frustrating endeavor.

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:17 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> True, but it’s still a cool ride. 
> 
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>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, but there’s nothing showing the rust on the door bottoms or 
>> elsewhere. Need more information.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You know you want that car. And NEED it. I like it. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
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> On Oct 5, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Lousy pictures, but the price is pretty good:
 
 https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1970-one-owner-mercedes-280sel/7208287502.html
 
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[MBZ] Fwd: 92 600SEL in IL

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> 
> Looks nice, supposedly needs a starter, price not too excessive, could be a 
> solid ride
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/384034985891694/
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> Too far for me
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Re: [MBZ] 280SEL Restoration Project

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

True, but it’s still a cool ride. 

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> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, but there’s nothing showing the rust on the door bottoms or elsewhere. 
> Need more information.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You know you want that car. And NEED it. I like it. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 5, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lousy pictures, but the price is pretty good:
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1970-one-owner-mercedes-280sel/7208287502.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 280SEL Restoration Project

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, but there’s nothing showing the rust on the door bottoms or elsewhere. 
Need more information.

-D

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
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>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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>> 
>> Lousy pictures, but the price is pretty good:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1970-one-owner-mercedes-280sel/7208287502.html
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Re: [MBZ] 280SEL Restoration Project

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You know you want that car. And NEED it. I like it. 

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> On Oct 5, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Lousy pictures, but the price is pretty good:
> 
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[MBZ] 280SEL Restoration Project

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Lousy pictures, but the price is pretty good:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1970-one-owner-mercedes-280sel/7208287502.html

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