Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

And the place to do that figuring is on Okietalk...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Feb 28, 2021 7:38:24 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes :

> We all need to figure out who to or what to blame for it.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 5:28 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well the price of crude oil keeps going up, so as long as that continues 
>> the price at the pump will go up.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> Feb 28, 2021 7:21:47 PM OK Don via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> Remember when it was at or over $4/gal? I wonder where this is headed.
>>> 
 On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 6:17 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Yes Typically, Flagstaff is always more expensive than down here, but not
 at this point in time. Diesel is hanging in at 2.80, regular unleaded is $3
 a gallon, and the Fry’s Stations near me are out of diesel and out of
 medium grade and premium unleaded.
 I filled up all of my vehicles. Shit is getting real.
 
 AZBob
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>>> Wernher
>>> Von Braun
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 ML320, 190k miles - $2,000

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Those things are all over in the south with no rust

--FT
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> 
> Somewhat rusty, maybe could bargain agressively?
> 
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2001-mercedes-ml320-for-sale/7284127316.html
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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes "that is the 'choke"

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 9:05 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The "choke" in my W115 cars was an idle speed control - more idle speed for
> starting instead of a bit of pedal with your foot.
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 7:51 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't know what a "pull start knob" is but what is a "choke" on a
> > diesel?  Diesels operate on a surplus of air so how does a choke help
> > with starting? My 300SD has an idle adjustment knob but that's not what
> > I'd call a choke.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > Dwight Giles via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> > > I never saw one on a 123. My 78 240D did have choke knob but key start.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
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>
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[MBZ] Nutso bidding

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It is up to over $1200 after auction fees in pre bid.  Wow. Maybe I 
should start dumping cars on copart.


https://www.copart.com/lot/33456661/clean-title-1991-mercedes-benz-350-sd-ar-little-rock


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Return of the VW Pickup, on a Ford Focus platform?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Amarok. I'd absolutely have one with the 2.0l TDI engine. Of course if they 
brought it here it would be bloated out with leather and stupid options and 
$60,000...

-Curt

On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 9:48:18 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 VW have their own pickup. Saw some in Argentina a few years ago. Might have 
been some rebadged something but VW was the badge

--FT
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> On Feb 28, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Return of the VW Pickup, on a Ford Focus platform?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I wonder if Ford sees that nobody is filling that mini-truck market any more 
and figures they can lead the pack back to it. In a world with $4 gas again...
-Curt

On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 9:36:19 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-maverick-spy-photo-factory-details/

https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/2022-ford-maverick-to-start-at-under-20k-exclusive/

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Return of the VW Pickup, on a Ford Focus platform?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

VW have their own pickup. Saw some in Argentina a few years ago. Might have 
been some rebadged something but VW was the badge

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> On Feb 28, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 

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[MBZ] OT: Return of the VW Pickup, on a Ford Focus platform?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-maverick-spy-photo-factory-details/

https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/2022-ford-maverick-to-start-at-under-20k-exclusive/

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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> but what is a "choke" on a diesel?


You used it _like_ a choke knob.  It increased idle speed, like most choke knobs
also do, but did not affect mixture in any way.  If it looks like a choke, and 
quacks
like a choke...

It was for better _running_ at cold start, not starting per se.  It's so it 
wouldn't die
when you took your foot off the pedal, before the engine had started to warm up.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My 1976 300D had one of those knobs.  Randy's should as well.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:05 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The "choke" in my W115 cars was an idle speed control - more idle speed for
> starting instead of a bit of pedal with your foot.
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 7:51 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't know what a "pull start knob" is but what is a "choke" on a
> > diesel?  Diesels operate on a surplus of air so how does a choke help
> > with starting? My 300SD has an idle adjustment knob but that's not what
> > I'd call a choke.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > Dwight Giles via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> > > I never saw one on a 123. My 78 240D did have choke knob but key start.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
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> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The "choke" in my W115 cars was an idle speed control - more idle speed for
starting instead of a bit of pedal with your foot.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 7:51 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't know what a "pull start knob" is but what is a "choke" on a
> diesel?  Diesels operate on a surplus of air so how does a choke help
> with starting? My 300SD has an idle adjustment knob but that's not what
> I'd call a choke.
>
> Allan
>
> Dwight Giles via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I never saw one on a 123. My 78 240D did have choke knob but key start.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
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OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] 2001 ML320, 190k miles - $2,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Somewhat rusty, maybe could bargain agressively?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2001-mercedes-ml320-for-sale/7284127316.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I don't know what a "pull start knob" is but what is a "choke" on a
diesel?  Diesels operate on a surplus of air so how does a choke help
with starting? My 300SD has an idle adjustment knob but that's not what
I'd call a choke.

Allan

Dwight Giles via Mercedes  writes:

> I never saw one on a 123. My 78 240D did have choke knob but key start.
>
>
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My $2.25 cheapo Marathon diesel is now $2.75.  Since I drive maybe 500
miles/month it doesn't really bother me.  Was $3.00 in the past 12 months
IIRC.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 8:01 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’m sure it will be hitting $4 by the end of summer, if not before.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 28, 2021, at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Remember when it was at or over $4/gal? I wonder where this is headed.
> >
> >> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 6:17 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes Typically, Flagstaff is always more expensive than down here, but
> not
> >> at this point in time. Diesel is hanging in at 2.80, regular unleaded
> is $3
> >> a gallon, and the Fry’s Stations near me are out of diesel and out of
> >> medium grade and premium unleaded.
> >> I filled up all of my vehicles. Shit is getting real.
> >>
> >> AZBob
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I’m sure it will be hitting $4 by the end of summer, if not before. 

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> On Feb 28, 2021, at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Remember when it was at or over $4/gal? I wonder where this is headed.
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 6:17 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Typically, Flagstaff is always more expensive than down here, but not
>> at this point in time. Diesel is hanging in at 2.80, regular unleaded is $3
>> a gallon, and the Fry’s Stations near me are out of diesel and out of
>> medium grade and premium unleaded.
>> I filled up all of my vehicles. Shit is getting real.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, all US cars had key start. This must be a euro thing. 

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> On Feb 28, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not a US model.  As far as I know (and I'm no expert here) all US spec W123 
> cars had relay type glow plugs, series "loop" style to start with, later 
> "pencil" type like all the later models.
> 
> 115s still had pull start.
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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>We all need to figure out who to or what to blame for it.

Increased activity I would think. Less Covid restrictions, more travel, more 
fuel used. Early on in the lockdowns, there was a glut of crude oil, and no 
where to store it. Prices actually went negative for a while. Semi tractors and 
rail engines still used diesel, but petroleum refining can only skew the 
finished product a few percentage points, so lack of refined gasoline storage 
capacity nearly shut down refineries. Probably why the fallacy of doing away 
with fossil fuels is just that. A fallacy.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

That would depend on "activities" in the middle east.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

Remember when it was at or over $4/gal? I wonder where this is headed.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 6:17 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

We all need to figure out who to or what to blame for it. 

AZBob

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> On Feb 28, 2021, at 5:28 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well the price of crude oil keeps going up, so as long as that continues the 
> price at the pump will go up.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Feb 28, 2021 7:21:47 PM OK Don via Mercedes :
> 
>> Remember when it was at or over $4/gal? I wonder where this is headed.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 6:17 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes Typically, Flagstaff is always more expensive than down here, but not
>>> at this point in time. Diesel is hanging in at 2.80, regular unleaded is $3
>>> a gallon, and the Fry’s Stations near me are out of diesel and out of
>>> medium grade and premium unleaded.
>>> I filled up all of my vehicles. Shit is getting real.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well the price of crude oil keeps going up, so as long as that continues the 
price at the pump will go up.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Feb 28, 2021 7:21:47 PM OK Don via Mercedes :

> Remember when it was at or over $4/gal? I wonder where this is headed.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 6:17 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes Typically, Flagstaff is always more expensive than down here, but not
>> at this point in time. Diesel is hanging in at 2.80, regular unleaded is $3
>> a gallon, and the Fry’s Stations near me are out of diesel and out of
>> medium grade and premium unleaded.
>> I filled up all of my vehicles. Shit is getting real.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Remember when it was at or over $4/gal? I wonder where this is headed.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 6:17 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> Yes Typically, Flagstaff is always more expensive than down here, but not
> at this point in time. Diesel is hanging in at 2.80, regular unleaded is $3
> a gallon, and the Fry’s Stations near me are out of diesel and out of
> medium grade and premium unleaded.
> I filled up all of my vehicles. Shit is getting real.
>
> AZBob
>


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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yes Typically, Flagstaff is always more expensive than down here, but not at 
this point in time. Diesel is hanging in at 2.80, regular unleaded is $3 a 
gallon, and the Fry’s Stations near me are out of diesel and out of medium 
grade and premium unleaded. 
I filled up all of my vehicles. Shit is getting real. 

AZBob

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> wrote:
> 
> Grant,
> 
> In Flagstaff this week I paid around $2,80/gallon for regular unleaded, and 
> diesel was slightly cheaper, which sort of surprised me.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 2:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> DIesel is now over $0.65 cents higher than the day the keystone pipeline
>> was canceled That should be a real economic stimulus.
>> Yesterday, I saw gas at over $3 ... first time in 4 years... That will hurt
>> a lot of people in the covid no work year.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 2:20 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ...the price of fuel has gone up 10 cents.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I never saw one on a 123. My 78 240D did have choke knob but key start.



Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Years ago back in the early 90’s even before I owned my first car a 79
> 240d, I could have sworn I saw a 123 in a parking lot once that had a pull
> start knob like the 115. At that time I only had experience with my
> grandmothers 115. I have never seen another one and have never ran across
> anybody that has seen or heard of this. I figured I must have remember it
> wrong. That is until today when some dude posted a photo on fakebook
> looking for a part. After much back and forth he posted this video which
> basically confirms what I saw way back years ago.
>
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1HpVm4igfge1XidXQdpsCJE10WxPImsvUEjOc_BrZp-1gXePsILhDBEy4=ydZsqct6k5Y=youtu.be
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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Not a US model.  As far as I know (and I'm no expert here) all US spec W123 
cars had relay type glow plugs, series "loop" style to start with, later 
"pencil" type like all the later models.

115s still had pull start.
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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Seems weird starting an MBZ with no tachometer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydZsqct6k5Y

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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

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We’re appointment only as well, so I don’t think they’re enforcing the 30 day 
rule.

Your points are all quite valid - it’s a matter of blending in and not drawing 
attention to your car. I’ve done the “use a current plate” thing tons of times 
over 30 years and never had an issue. The only time I did was in southern VA 
with a 1970 280S I picked up in Roanoke. I drove across to I-95, my FL plate 
propped up in the back window as the car didn’t have a plate on it, so I had no 
hardware.

I stopped in a McD’s in some little burg on the way, and Barney Fife and 
friends decided to accost me in the parking lot because my plate had fallen 
down onto the parcel shelf.

I found out later that the route I was on was common route for people moving 
drugs up from FL into VA and surrounds.

-D

> On Feb 28, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-02-27 20:43, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> In a state you reside in, that may be well and good. Driving a car
>> 1,700 miles with fictitious plates will get the car impounded. A
>> number of years ago I attempted to drive a 1992 300D home from
>> Maryland with no plates. The cop said if I had fictitious plates it
>> would've been a mess. I probably should've checked into a temporary
>> tag, but I don't think one was available.
> 
> My three interstate purchases, I fraudulently placed a current plate 
> belonging to another car on my new purchase. Drove a 300SD home from Florida, 
> a 2.3-16 home from Chicago, and a E320 home from Boston that way.
> 
> In Michigan, I have three days from date of purchase to title and register 
> the car. There are two problems with that:
> 
> 1. Doing it legally (no plate) generates probable cause to believe you are 
> doing it illegally and might cause you to get pulled over and subjected to 
> undue scrutiny.
> 
> 2. The Secretary of State (DMV) is open by appointment only. If you want an 
> appointment in February to buy that new plate within 3 days of purchase, you 
> better have made that appointment in November (True story: a friend has an 
> appointment for her 16 year old to apply for his license tomorrow. When she 
> made the appointment in November, the first available time slots were in mid 
> February). I suppose there are workarounds, like mailing in your title 
> application and hopefully the cops would be lenient about the 3 day limit and 
> the fact that you don't have your car's papers because you mailed them to the 
> SOS.
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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Florida is 30 days from date of purchase or bringing it into the state.

-D

> On Feb 28, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2021-02-28 10:25, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:
>>> In Michigan, I have three days from date of purchase to title and
>>> register the car.
>> Wow that's not much time. In Indiana it's 30 days I think, maybe 45?
> 
> If I don't title it within 30 or 60 days, I forget which, there's a late fee, 
> something like $15-25.
> 
> The three days is the longest I can drive it without registration, and I 
> better be on a pretty straight line between point of purchase and my home 
> when I get pulled over for driving without a plate, because that grace period 
> is for purposes of getting it home, not driving it around. Again, I'm talking 
> long established law, which might have COVID relaxations on enforcement now 
> that I can't just wait in line at the SoS office for title transfer papers 
> and registration.
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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Grant,

In Flagstaff this week I paid around $2,80/gallon for regular unleaded, and 
diesel was slightly cheaper, which sort of surprised me.

-D

> On Feb 28, 2021, at 2:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> DIesel is now over $0.65 cents higher than the day the keystone pipeline
> was canceled That should be a real economic stimulus.
> Yesterday, I saw gas at over $3 ... first time in 4 years... That will hurt
> a lot of people in the covid no work year.
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 2:20 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ...the price of fuel has gone up 10 cents.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I remember a "choke" knob on the dash.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 3:43 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Years ago back in the early 90’s even before I owned my first car a 79
> 240d, I could have sworn I saw a 123 in a parking lot once that had a pull
> start knob like the 115. At that time I only had experience with my
> grandmothers 115. I have never seen another one and have never ran across
> anybody that has seen or heard of this. I figured I must have remember it
> wrong. That is until today when some dude posted a photo on fakebook
> looking for a part. After much back and forth he posted this video which
> basically confirms what I saw way back years ago.
>
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1HpVm4igfge1XidXQdpsCJE10WxPImsvUEjOc_BrZp-1gXePsILhDBEy4=ydZsqct6k5Y=youtu.be
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Re: [MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[G Mann via Mercedes]

DIesel is now over $0.65 cents higher than the day the keystone pipeline
was canceled That should be a real economic stimulus.
Yesterday, I saw gas at over $3 ... first time in 4 years... That will hurt
a lot of people in the covid no work year.

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> ...the price of fuel has gone up 10 cents.
>
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[MBZ] I’m getting tired of every time I leave my house...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

...the price of fuel has gone up 10 cents. 

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[MBZ] I guess early 123 diesels did have pull start knobs

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Years ago back in the early 90’s even before I owned my first car a 79 240d, I 
could have sworn I saw a 123 in a parking lot once that had a pull start knob 
like the 115. At that time I only had experience with my grandmothers 115. I 
have never seen another one and have never ran across anybody that has seen or 
heard of this. I figured I must have remember it wrong. That is until today 
when some dude posted a photo on fakebook looking for a part. After much back 
and forth he posted this video which basically confirms what I saw way back 
years ago. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1HpVm4igfge1XidXQdpsCJE10WxPImsvUEjOc_BrZp-1gXePsILhDBEy4=ydZsqct6k5Y=youtu.be



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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D,$1,995

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

$1995 down 

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> On Feb 28, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> $1995
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> $8995 is stupid cheap? Seems stupid expensive to me 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is steupid cheap.  Must have some fatal or really expensive to fix
>>> flaw.
>>> 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 LOoks mostly nice
 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1072446446607733/?ref=search_code=undefined
 
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D,$1,995

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks like a big dent in the trunk lid.  I do like the color.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> LOoks mostly nice
>
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1072446446607733/?ref=search_code=undefined
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D,$1,995

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

$1995

--FT
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> On Feb 28, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> $8995 is stupid cheap? Seems stupid expensive to me 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That is steupid cheap.  Must have some fatal or really expensive to fix
>> flaw.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 12:19 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> LOoks mostly nice
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1072446446607733/?ref=search_code=undefined
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D,$1,995

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$8995 is stupid cheap? Seems stupid expensive to me 

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> On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> That is steupid cheap.  Must have some fatal or really expensive to fix
> flaw.
> 
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> LOoks mostly nice
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1072446446607733/?ref=search_code=undefined
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D,$1,995

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That is steupid cheap.  Must have some fatal or really expensive to fix
flaw.

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> LOoks mostly nice
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1072446446607733/?ref=search_code=undefined
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Re: [MBZ] 15 vs 8 hole wheels on w124

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Dimitri.
I have a few 124 wheels that you may have.
Most are typical used rims, all are useful.
Fred.

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> Is the transaction based on actual value of bartered goods or on money
> exchanged ($0)?
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> > On Feb 26, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
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> > 
> > 10 percent of this transaction goes to the House.
> >
> >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 3:18 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> >> Thanks. Sounds like a good approach!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >> > On Feb 26, 2021, at 12:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
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> >> >
> >> > I have some experience with that kind of project... The outtake was I
> >> > discovered there are a number of different length wheel bolts for
> Mercedes
> >> > / wheels.
> >> > The good news is: I found them in good supply on Ebay, rather cheap.
> >> > Tip:  Tak e the stock wheel and with it off the car, insert a lug
> bolt,
> >> > then, from the back side of the wheel, take a good measurement of the
> >> > extending grip length of the protruding threads.
> >> > That measurement is how much thread length the car needs to safely
> mount a
> >> > wheel.
> >> >
> >> > Now, take the "new wheel" and do the same measurement... with the
> stud you
> >> > now have.   Do a little math to determine how much longer or shorter
> wheel
> >> > stud you need to safely mount the "new" wheel, and go looking on
> ebay, or
> >> > amazon, or wherever you find the length you need.
> >> >
> >> > Remember, Mercedes uses a Ball shape to the contact between wheel and
> >> > stud.. NOT a cone shape.. ONLY use the ball shape studs.
> >> > Get the correct wheel studs for the wheels you want to use and "Bobs
> yer
> >> > Unkle" ... Happy motoring.
> >> >
> >> > As I recall, a set of studs cost me about $12 per wheel, with express
> >> > shipping.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:01 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The 90 300D 2.5 has three 8 hole aftermarket wheels but retains the
> >> >> original 15 hole wheel in the right rear position. I have extra 8
> hole
> >> >> wheels and tried to swap the 15 for the 8 but the car made a grinding
> >> >> noise. Turns out that the lug bolts interfere with the parking brake
> drum
> >> >> somehow. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Should/ can I
> safely
> >> >> use shorter lugs on this wheel only? I’m just trying to get a
> uniform look
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Re: [MBZ] Corre bien funciona pars trabajar -- 1995 Mercedes-Benz S-Class, $900

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That cannot be an authentic Mercedes color.  Yet, it is oddly compelling...

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 12:04 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Azul
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/229136382246504/?ref=search_code=undefined
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[MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D,$1,995

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

LOoks mostly nice

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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-02-28 10:25, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:


In Michigan, I have three days from date of purchase to title and
register the car.


Wow that's not much time. In Indiana it's 30 days I think, maybe 45?


If I don't title it within 30 or 60 days, I forget which, there's a late 
fee, something like $15-25.


The three days is the longest I can drive it without registration, and I 
better be on a pretty straight line between point of purchase and my 
home when I get pulled over for driving without a plate, because that 
grace period is for purposes of getting it home, not driving it around. 
Again, I'm talking long established law, which might have COVID 
relaxations on enforcement now that I can't just wait in line at the SoS 
office for title transfer papers and registration.


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[MBZ] Hello Kitty 2000 Mercedes-Benz M-Class,$1,900

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I wonder if he would take $500

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/174403874266317/?ref=search_code=undefined

Ran good transmission stopped shifting. I think it's the transmission 
module. Replaced the connector on the transmission. Has new window 
switches, radiator, and water pump. It's been setting for about 2 years. 
Need a trailer. NC title in hand.


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[MBZ] Corre bien funciona pars trabajar -- 1995 Mercedes-Benz S-Class, $900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Azul

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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yeah. I sent him an email.

Thanks,


Rick

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Sent: February 28, 2021 7:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

Florida allows plate transfers, so unless an LEO had some kind of “sixth sense” 
that allowed them to know what was going on with the car you removed the plate 
from they would have no way to determine your claim to transfer wasn’t legit.

Rick, did you contact my shipping guy, Mike? I ask because he called and left 
me a voice mail for “Rick”.

-D


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[MBZ] So cool -- OT 1948 SPARTAN ROYAL MANSION 33FT,$4,250

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Please... Don’t ask if it is available!! If it would not be available, 
you would not see this listing! If it’s not available any more the 
listing will be removed! Ie as long as you can see this listing the unit 
is for sale! I hope that answers the question “ Is this available ? “ 
for everyone. <- Thank you for your understanding.


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Re: [MBZ] 8ball -- 1976 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D,$6,000

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Must have just had a speed ball 

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[MBZ] cgw? -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 350 Sedan 4D,$1,215

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I wonder if my star computer could deal with that?

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Motor and transmission is great, was my daily driver until the cgw went 
out(fuse box), I have the replacement just needs to be clone 
($100-$200). First $1500 gets her Car needs to be towed away.


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[MBZ] 8ball -- 1976 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D,$6,000

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/894981971316355/?ref=product_details_code=undefined


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[MBZ] Now this looks nice

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/pleasant-hill-1979-mercedes-300sd/7283848980.html

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[MBZ] Now this looks nice

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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[MBZ] 91 Mercedes Benz 300D - $1,200 (Harrisburg)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Actually doesn't look too bad aside from the paint

https://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/d/augusta-91-mercedes-benz-300d/7283541653.html

Cons. Three windows don't work, color faded

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[MBZ] Will not break them up. Smart Car[s] RV Ready - $6, 500 (Baymeadows)

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Bonded pair

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[MBZ] It comes equipped with a lot of extras such as three Kenwood 12 inch speakers in the box, A pioneer double den DVD Player, two amps, 24 inch rims and tires

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AND an introductory bag of crack rocks


 2002 Mercedes Benz S-500 - $7,500(Savannah)

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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> In Michigan, I have three days from date of purchase to title and 
> register the car.

Wow that's not much time. In Indiana it's 30 days I think, maybe 45?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

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On 2021-02-27 20:43, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:


In a state you reside in, that may be well and good. Driving a car
1,700 miles with fictitious plates will get the car impounded. A
number of years ago I attempted to drive a 1992 300D home from
Maryland with no plates. The cop said if I had fictitious plates it
would've been a mess. I probably should've checked into a temporary
tag, but I don't think one was available.


My three interstate purchases, I fraudulently placed a current plate 
belonging to another car on my new purchase. Drove a 300SD home from 
Florida, a 2.3-16 home from Chicago, and a E320 home from Boston that 
way.


In Michigan, I have three days from date of purchase to title and 
register the car. There are two problems with that:


1. Doing it legally (no plate) generates probable cause to believe you 
are doing it illegally and might cause you to get pulled over and 
subjected to undue scrutiny.


2. The Secretary of State (DMV) is open by appointment only. If you want 
an appointment in February to buy that new plate within 3 days of 
purchase, you better have made that appointment in November (True story: 
a friend has an appointment for her 16 year old to apply for his license 
tomorrow. When she made the appointment in November, the first available 
time slots were in mid February). I suppose there are workarounds, like 
mailing in your title application and hopefully the cops would be 
lenient about the 3 day limit and the fact that you don't have your 
car's papers because you mailed them to the SOS.


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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

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On 2021-02-27 22:04, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

In MA you're allowed to move your plate to a vehicle you just bought,
I think you have 7 days to get to the DMV and move the plate before
"big trouble" ensues. Every pickup truck we've bought we just moved
the plate from the trade in to the new one, worked it out with the DMV
in a day or three.


In MI, you pay a $8 plate transfer fee, plus if the property tax on the 
donor car is less than the tax on the receiving car, they charge you the 
additional tax. So moving a plate from a $6000 Toyota to a $80k Mercedes 
carries about a $300 transfer fee.


The price of the plate drops a bit over the first three years (seems 
like about 10% per year), then you're stuck paying most of the cost of a 
new car for all eternity, even if the $80k car is eventually only worth 
$2k in the real world.


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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

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Florida allows plate transfers, so unless an LEO had some kind of “sixth sense” 
that allowed them to know what was going on with the car you removed the plate 
from they would have no way to determine your claim to transfer wasn’t legit.

Rick, did you contact my shipping guy, Mike? I ask because he called and left 
me a voice mail for “Rick”.

-D

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
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> Oklahoma just started that this year I think - we got a letter telling us
> to keep the plate on our car if we sold it, and use it for the next car.
> Must be cheaper somehow.
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>> In MA you're allowed to move your plate to a vehicle you just bought, I
>> think you have 7 days to get to the DMV and move the plate before "big
>> trouble" ensues. Every pickup truck we've bought we just moved the plate
>> from the trade in to the new one, worked it out with the DMV in a day or
>> three.
>> 
>> -Curt
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