Re: [MBZ] OT: How to divide my IMac
As a matter of fact, this isn't a trivial question. My son did this for me on another iMac, and he had to partition the hard drive. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device -- Original message--From: Curt Raymond via MercedesDate: Tue, Dec 15, 2015 1:22 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion List;Cc: Curt Raymond;Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT: How to divide my IMac Open the system preferences, either from the icon in the doc or the apple menu in the upper left.Then open your favorite web browser, type www.google.com in the address bar, in the Google window type in "how do I make a new mac user".Sheesh, do you need help to find the bathroom? You've got a world of instructions out there, don't make people hold your hand like you're 4, learn to do for yourself once in awhile.-Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How to divide my IMac Nope. How do I access Users and Groups?On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:Is this a trick question?The Users & Groups system preference would be the obvious place. Also obviously you can't be logged in as guest to make the change.-Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:59 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: How to divide my IMacI have a Macbook Pro and IMac desktop . Each has a guest login thatdoesn't allow the guest to save data or files when logging out - the workmust be abandoned. How can I create a second user rather than a "guest" sothat they can log in independently and keep/save their work when they logout?___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Woodpecker siting
Much more realistic. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device -- Original message--From: fmiser via MercedesDate: Wed, Dec 9, 2015 6:42 PMTo: mercedes@okiebenz.com;Cc: fmiser;Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT: Woodpecker siting > Andrew wrote:> > Anyway, I found a potential solution - a giant animatronic> > spider!> > Earlier Andrew wrote:> > > > Whatever solution I come up with must > meet the most> > rigorous aesthetic standards.An animatronic spider is better > than a plastic > snake___http://www.okiebenz.comTo > search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change > delivery options go > to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel
What ethanol? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 07 October 2015, 02:34PM -0400 from OK Don via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> : >Don't forget the federal subsidy of the ethanol in your gas . . . that >needs to STOP. > >On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: > >> Don't forget - oil and gas get $$billions in tax breaks >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:47 AM, G Mann via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> wrote: >> >> > Federal Subsidies: A scheme by which you use electricity today with the >> > cost being pushed forward to be paid by yet unborn citizens. >> > >> > In legal principle, a contract of adhesion. Specifically named as a >> > violation of the Constitution of USA. >> > >> > > >-- >OK Don > >NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! > >*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of >our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > >"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who >learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence >for themselves." > >WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* >2013 F150, 18 mpg >2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg >1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For y'all trekkies
Now that was funny!! -- Sent from myMail app for Android Thursday, 28 May 2015, 00:50PM -0400 from Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: But wasn't his predecessor the most often on vacation president ever? I feel like the Republicans pick on Obama for a whole bunch of things they'd have lauded in other presidents. I also feel like today if Obama said You know what, the AMA isn't working out lets scrap it. the Republicans would pull a 180 and FORCE him to keep it in place. I think the right has only one platform right now and its merely to be against whatever Obama is for. Sadly Obama doesn't seem to get that all he has to do is support Republican initiatives and the Repubs will abandon them immediately... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For y'all trekkies I don't think that is fair. A whole lot of white people voted for him in order for him to get into the office of president. During the campaign he was a very good speaker. He convinced a lot of people that he could get the job done. Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action. RB Whole lotta action on the golf courses and extended vacations ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HiFly better than GoforM?
Insane! ! I want some but lack a vehicle. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Thursday, 14 May 2015, 09:57PM -0400 from Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: These tars are H rated 400 AA, so that sounds pretty good. $46 each at MI stores. (for 123) That makes em less than go for em tar that Andrew likes. http://www.belletire.com/tires-for-size/1957014 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Accumulators for a W123 300TD
-- Edison California state regulation. Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 13 May 2015, 05:12PM -0400 from Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: That’s bogus. How are other suppliers sending them? They’re in LA - see if there’s someone around that can do a will call and send them to you. Dan On May 13, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 13/05/2015 2:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Pelican Parts carries these nitrogen cells and their prices are awesome, but claims they cannot be shipped (air OR ground) them due to post-9/11 regulations. Part number is 1233200215 Bummer. ___ So, the immediate question that arises, is: If they cannot ship them to you - how do they get them? This is sort of like the old joke about the fellow who is working on an acid that will dissolve anything and everything and the dimwit who asks what are you going to keep it in? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Once seen cannot be unseen
Assuming money is no object... -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 13 May 2015, 05:37PM -0400 from Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: I'll admit they're not bad but I'd rather buy a G-wagen or a 60's bronco or scout. Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The Land Cruiser - a Toyota tat even Dimitri could appreciate. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:29 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curt wrote: I dunno, I'd kind of like a Land Cruiser. Theres an early '70s one for sale nearby. Didn't check but I bet they want big money for it. In the far reaches of the world, the Land Cruiser was considered a heavy alternative to a Land Rover that was prone to rusting and getting stuck. Series IIA with an OM617 is what I want. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
I commute 13 miles RT daily. I will gladly accept a donation of any brand of electric car. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 27 April 2015, 11:40PM -0400 from OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: The Leaf would be a good car for my BIL in Philly, my daughter in NYC, or the one in Providence, and probably the one moving to Boston; assuming that they will not be taking road trips out of town in it. It would even be a good car for my wife, as she only drives the Passat once a week for approx. 40 miles round trip. No one car will be good at all missions . . . On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fact that they claim an unattainable range of 100 miles is false advertising. We do not drive the car in a lab under perfect conditions. In the real, practical world, the leaf has no practical application, hence it's a turd. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hillary for Prez
I'm sure that the Black Plague community would be highly insulted by your intemperate remarks! -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 13 April 2015, 11:20AM -0400 from Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com: 18 min of missing tape took down nixon, and earned him the title tricky Dick. There have been any number of things pillary has done that are far worse. Where is the media outcry? The most analogous is tens of thousands of missing emails. Where are the NSA records of the missing emails?? That is far more than 18 minutes! Put pillary in the Pillories! Not to mention Billy Bob's crimes... Together they could be called the black plague Roger that. The current list could run long, if we were to treat treasonous acts as they should be treated. On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: There a whole bunch of other folks who should be brought up on treason charges also. GMANN sez: I wish to volunteer to make a Clinton vote.. as long as it is as a jury member at the treason trial for participation in the running of Libya weapons stores to Syria al queda, and the violation of state secrets act via private email server use. Otherwise, not interested in anything she does. I understand that George Zimmerman changed his name to Ben Ghazi.. notice the media now refuses to give him any notice? SNL seemed to pull out the stops I hear, for humor and entertainment by raking her over the coals.. I wonder who the democrat party will run when it gets serious finally. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Video For Andrew
How is that different from a sociopath? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 10 April 2015, 05:29PM -0400 from arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com: After watching the video, I got the impression that the cop might be a psychopath. His disciplinary record during his six years in the Coast Gaurd might be interesting as well as details of his home life. Characteristics of the Psychopathic Personality Updated September 07, 2014. The study of the psychopath reveals an individual who is incapable of feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for their actions. They are generally cunning, manipulative and know the difference between right and wrong but dismiss it as applying to them. They are incapable of normal emotions such as love, generally react without considering the consequences of their actions and show extreme egocentric and narcissistic behavior...snip http://crime.about.com/od/serial/a/psychopaths.htm Gerry .. G Mann wrote: All good points, however, the cut line between manslaughter and murder can be a very fine one. I expect prosecution will try for murder 1 with manslaughter as the fallback position. The fine points of what happened will have to be displayed to the jury, and the judge, at trial. There appears to be good cause to charge murder1 because the burden of Mens Rea can be a very short time span... such as the time the deceased was exiting the scene, until the shooter made the decision to shoot him in the back multiple times... If there were only one shot, perhaps that could be argued as heat of the moment action... but logic says multiple shots into the retreating party demonstrates good cause for Mens Rae [intent followed by the act]. I retreat to my status as Citizen and pass this to the courts at this time.. my TV is resting in 280 feet of water at the bottom of the lake. If anything worth watching comes on, I will retrieve it. On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I have also seen commentary regarding the murder charge -- murder apparently requires aforethought, which was probably not present here, so that manslaughter might be the more appropriate charge. i don't know what the prosecutor is going to charge him with. I thought that under the laws of most (maybe all) states, Murder in the First Degree requires malice aforethought, but Murder 2 can happen in the heat of the moment. Manslaughter is when you're criminally responsible but didn't intend to kill. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4328/9505 - Release Date: 04/10/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live guns banned at NRA Convention
I thought there was a gun show exemption from background checks. My mistake. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Thursday, 09 April 2015, 02:01PM -0400 from G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com: Andrew, Yet again, I feel I must speak in response to your latest posting. First: The article is in error because of it's hoplopobic reporting focus. Apparently, you are drawn to that, which is your right, just as it is mine to point it out. Second: It seems now likely both yourself and the writer of the posted article are not aware of the standard practice at ALL gun shows that requires the checking of ALL weapons and then securing them with a safety tie wrap through the firing mechanism UPON ENTRY to the gun show. NRA is simply a HUGE GUN SHOW... This is simply standard safety practice used at ALL gun shows to ensure against unintended discharge of any weapon. Third: This practice is a STANDARD SAFETY PRACTICE when entering and exiting any shooting range I have ever attended. ALL weapons are cleared of bullets in the barrel, and ALL magazines or cylinders are emptied BEFORE leaving the line of fire, while the barrel is pointed DOWN RANGE.. Simple and primary gun safety practiced by RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS as a universal practice. Fourth: The writer attempts to make this standard safety practice a platform for hoplophobic social engineering under the guise of gun control.. This is an insult to anyone who understands and practices standard gun safety. Thus, wrong. Fifth: I invite you to satisfy your fascination with all things gun by making contact with a certified firearms instructor and taking an introductory course where such basics are covered as gun handling, gun safety, and very basic shooting skills introduction. I sincerely believe you would come to understand more about the real facts of ownership and responsibility that comes with ownership of a firearm. I am a certified firearms instructor myself and over the years have often come in contact with people who only saw a gun on TV or the movies, being used most improperly and often illegally. These perceptions have become ingrained in the minds of many, unfortunately. I urge you to expose yourself to the facts on gun safety and use. There is a group called USCCA which, if you contact them, will steer you to one of their certified instructors, in your local area, which you may find helpful and educational. You are a smart man.. the decision is yours, I only suggest. Respectfully, Grant... On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/firearmconcierge/ nra-criticized-for-banning-working-guns/ http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/foghorn/can-you- carry-a-handgun-at-the-2015-nra-annual-meeting-in-nashville/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the club
Yes, a couple times a month. I even get notes on my windshield asking whether I wouldn't sell the car. so far, however, no one has asked whether I'd like to go out for a drink. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 07 April 2015, 11:52AM -0400 from Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com: Andrew, do you ever get people who come up and ask you about your TDs? Your cars are kept up nicely. I'd think you would get comments and compliments. I'd think there are enough MBCA members in the GW section that you would bump into to some while you are out and about. If not, I guess that is the difference with the DC kullture. (emphasis on Kull) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 1984 300CD
I don't like anthracite grey and besides - what's with the hub caps? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 16 March 2015, 02:42PM -0400 from Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: I can see the price he’s asking - it’s a really nice example and appears to be in excellent shape: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2297929-fs-1985-300cd-turbodiesel-115k-miles.html#post11511537 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2297929-fs-1985-300cd-turbodiesel-115k-miles.html#post11511537 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble
I never tailgate and don't own drone so our paths will never cross. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 16 March 2015, 01:36PM -0400 from Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: You of course have the right to operated the drone but if it begins to infringe on my rights I have an equal right to react. Since I'm a nice person I'd start by asking you to stop, if you failed to stop you'd stop having a drone. Same thing as when you tailgate me. You have the right to tailgate but I have the right to drive really slow... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble My right to own and operate a drone vs. your right to privacy? On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I invite you to read and understand the 10th Amendment of Bill of Rights. A Right can not be taken, it can only be surrendered. You may have surrendered yours.. I have not. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Under what law? On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not property rights fool, PERSONAL rights and responsibilities. You fly your drone over my house and I have the right to knock it down... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble So you have no problem with a civilian (non-gov't.) overflight or 24/7 aerial surveillance of your property? Or buzzing around outside your b/r window? And since you believe in Property Rights Uber Alles if you knock this thing out of the sky you will have to pay for it. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:19 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Government does not ask permission before flying drones to spy on you, it is only equally fair we citizens would do the same. Who would you rather be stalked by, an ex girlfriend or a government agency with unlimited power and an armed drone? A quick read of the 10th Amendment of the Bill of Rights is suggested. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So are you guys saying there should be no controls on private citizens flying drones anywhere, anytime they please - including spying on you or anyone else? On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Remember that drone footage I posted a link to a few months back? That's a guy that works in our building, who is now in trouble with the FAA for flying his drone for commercial purposes. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/28417965/faa-to-tampa-man-dont-put-drone-video-on-youtube As I understand it he's pretty much told the FAA to pound sand, which, I believe, is a pretty dumb thing to do. Even more so when you're a government employee yourself. Should be interesting to see how this pans out Dan .. Sounds like someone complained to the FAA. The commercial angle might just be an excuse to try and stop him without mentioning the real reasons which could relate to security of various sorts. A large drone can carry enough explosives to do serious damage according to one article. Seems to be lots of government concern about drones in general with several states enacting laws regulating them. The government is running tests around the White House and DC trying to find ways to disrupt their communication and Florida is doing the following: http://www.bing.com/search?q=drone+laws+floridaqs=ASsk=AS4pq=drone+laws ≻=8-10sp=5cvid=c5c3a53824b74e74aa438983b6c5a6cfFORM=QBLHghc=1 or search: drone laws florida If he really wanted to test his drone rights he could take his drone up north of Tampa a few miles and take pictures around the large nudist camp, or down to Boca Grande and take pictures of the Rockefellers and other rich folks around their enclaves. Gerry P.S. The info on his drone that I passed on to friend in Tallahassee was much appreciated. He is now flying a drone around the area and he sends you his thanks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble
I don't know but from what I've read he's a jerk in real life -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 16 March 2015, 01:35PM -0400 from Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com: Steve Segall and Bruce Willis. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I want Wilton and Jon on my team. Andrew, pick two for your team. .. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 2 real military pilots vs 2 would be actors... My money is on Max's team! Isn't that supposed to be seagull? Is he related to Jonathan Livingston? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Incredibly disappearing coolant in my W123 300TD
Patty is super helpful advice, Peter - many thanks. Do you make house calls? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 16 March 2015, 01:47PM -0400 from Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Leaks that I have found on this system: Porous heater or radiator hoses that only weep under pressure. Failed radiator cap. Cracked plastic coolant tank, either around the filler neck or down the seam. Bad water pump only leaking when hot and under pressure -- this one can be hard to find. Failed auxillary pump that only leaks when running -- look for coolant traces below the pump or coolant in the rubber holder. Failed head gasket leaking out the side. Failed head gasket leaking into the coolant passages, blowing coolant out the overlfow (check for pressurized hoses when cold). Cracked head, same symptoms as the head gasket. Pressure test the system, that should at least eliminate some of the common possibilities. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
How is his fee determined? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 10 March 2015, 10:01AM -0400 from Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the computer will tell the driver when it wants attention. That seems kinda crazy but I guess our electronic overlords know best. --R On 3/9/15 10:52 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote: On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil? Here's the full list: http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html There are five times as many oils listed now as there were just a few months ago. I'm running this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00R0CRISI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425955466 I don't know what the max oil change interval is, probably 13k miles. Kaleb is forgiven for using the wrong oil as my local dealer does the same thing, but you really want to keep the filter healthy. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list
Please keep us posted. I want to have a solar tube installed to shed some light on a gloomy kitchen, even though it has a window. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 20 January 2015, 00:47PM -0500 from Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Did my civic duty today and had jury duty. Slow week so we got dismissed early I'm going to spend some time in the attic scoping out the location for a tubular skylight I want to put in our laundry room. it's yucky outside or I would wash the R129. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list
I would have attaboyed if he have used lung power rather than the electric motor. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 20 January 2015, 00:08PM -0500 from WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: ATTABOY. W - Original Message - From: Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list Changed the engine oil and filter on my '87 300TD this past weekend. Sucked out the old with an electric pump. Filled with M1 5w-40, installed a new Hengst oil filter. Easy-peasy. Need to order some new oil sample kits from Larry. I expect this engine can safely go at least 10k miles before reaching the soot load limit. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list
Where do you' do all that driving? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 20 January 2015, 00:03PM -0500 from Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Changed the engine oil and filter on my '87 300TD this past weekend. Sucked out the old with an electric pump. Filled with M1 5w-40, installed a new Hengst oil filter. Easy-peasy. Need to order some new oil sample kits from Larry. I expect this engine can safely go at least 10k miles before reaching the soot load limit. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Perhaps a better descriptor is the one offered by a tech at an indy Autohaus: they don't break. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 04 January 2015, 07:39PM -0500 from Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123.Not really a fair comparison, the newest 123 cars are 5+ years older and considering their cost when new much less common... I think when most people say bulletproof they mean maintainable. The real killer for me on 123 cars is the inability to find one that isn't all rusted out. Most of the cheap ones now have descended to the level of real beaters that even I don't want to tackle. I saw a couple on Craigslist in the $2500 range with no exterior trim, terrible interiors and many signs of neglect like rust, failed paint, leaking windows/sunroof and failed ACC. Last summer when my Jetta quit on the highway (failed wiring to the shutoff solenoid) a friend said Geez I thought those were reliable... Its a 16 year old car I drove 20,000 miles in a year with only 3 breakdowns. One I was able to drive home from, one I could have driven home from with a little more knowledge and 2 feet of jumper wire that I now carry. Sounds pretty good to me. -Curt Of course the Jetta is down right now awaiting a new radiator... From: ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com ; Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
A replacement dash or console in any color besides black. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 04 January 2015, 07:43PM -0500 from dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: I've never had problems getting parts for a w123. What parts are hard to find? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:29 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
Not to mention literalists. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 24 December 2014, 05:23PM -0500 from Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com: Andrew wrote: It appears that this list is populated with late bloomers. No bloomers here. I wear briefs. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
We're all in this closet together. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 12 December 2014, 07:27PM -0500 from Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com: Andrew wrote: I followed on with a zero content message because I am a closet conformist Not much closet here. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD W123 Balky Starter
Send me a link so I can at least price it. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 18 November 2014, 06:39PM -0500 from Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: The problem with the diesel starters is that usually the coil windings have acquired too much resistance, and if you don't replace the armature, you will still have a weak, high current draw starter. New bushing and turning the commutator will do very little to fix it. So far as I know, only Bosch rewinds the armatures. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: Craig's New Ride
New job too. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 14 November 2014, 02:55PM -0500 from Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: fredh.s...@hotmail.com To: d...@penoff.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:54:08 + On a business lunch my boss derided my choice of Quiche Lorraine as Real men don't eat quicheMy reply was Real men eat whatever they want!Game over, new balls please. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:36:22 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Careful. I ate quiche yesterday and it was yummy! Okie Benz had a quotes page at one time. Haven't looked to see if it's still there. Dan who believes he is a real man despite eating quiche Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD
I like your explanation better than any of the others because it's a cheap fix. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 10 November 2014, 11:48AM -0500 from Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca: Is there a check valve in the main hose leading to the brake booster? I had a vehicle way back that would periodically lose the power brake function and scare me half to death. I changed the hose between the booster and the intake (it was a gas engine) and that solved the problem. There was a check valve in the hose that would sometimes stick. RB On 09/11/2014 9:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Some of you will recall my write up of the intermittent loss of power braking on my 1983 300TD, coupled with the loss of engine shut off (won't turn off with key). I fiddled with a rubber connector to the brake booster line, and happily the problem disappeared for nearly a week. The issue then resurfaced, but now the following symptoms occur all the time: 1) Power brakes completely gone - must apply extremely forceful pressure on the brake pedal (or petal, if you prefer). 2) Cannot shut off the engine with key - must be done manually 3) Vacuum door locks completely inoperative, even with the engine running. Otherwise, everything else on the car works fine. Whoever is the first to successfully diagnose this problem, based solely on the symptoms enunciated above, wins a coveted ATTABOY. Good luck. Andrew 1983 300TD No brakes, locks or engine shutoff 1985 300TD CA version ___ http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD
I kinda doubt it. The tube looks grate. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 10 November 2014, 10:17AM -0500 from Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: It's the big plastic tube that gose to the break booster. If it is braken you will loose you're break peddle. Their a known week link. --R On 11/9/14 11:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What's that? On Nov 9, 2014 11:08 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fact that messing with the nut made it better for a while leads me to guess the main synthetic tube is broken. No diaphragm on that car. I vote for busted main vacuum line or a ruptured booster. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD
My symptoms are silent -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 10 November 2014, 04:31PM -0500 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:41 PM To: Scott Ritchey; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD My pessimistic half is betting on the vacuum pump, the most expensive scenaro ($350 + labor). The junkyard / breakers / pick and pull is your friend. I had one break mechanically. It sounded like a rod was going to let loose. $60 later with a trip to the bone yard, and it was all better. Potomac German Auto is close by, yes? Call and maybe they have one and will ship...? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fuel sender and hubcap
I did too, in the Auto Benz body shop in Alexandria, VA -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 12 October 2014, 01:31PM -0400 from Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: I saw a masking tool once that covered the star. Looked like a big branding iron. On Oct 12, 2014 1:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BTW, about 14 years ago, I did a beautiful job of painting 123 wheel covers of other colors to the ivory I needed. 'Masked the center star and elsewhere as necessary with masking tape and sprayed 'em with paint from towerpaint.com. 'The masking took some care, of course, but overall, it was a fairly easy job. The results looked so good, I even gave myself an ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 123 fuel sender and hubcap Last call. Does anyone have a 123 fuel sender or a midnight blue hubcap for a 123? I've had no positive responses so far. If you have one or the other, let me know. It looks like I will have to find a junkyard on car-part.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Someone in IL needs this 116
They were never badged as 450SE L 6,9. Just 6.9 on lower right corner of trunk lid, sometimes with 450 SE L as well on the left corner -- Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 04 October 2014, 04:56PM -0400 from Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Exactly. The car is a 450SEL (long wheel base W116) with a 6.9L instead of a 4.5L V8. This is standard MB badging -- if the W116 had originally had the 6.9 as designed, it would be badged as a 690SEL. Fat chance on that, there was a very substantial difference in price point, that 6.9L is VERY expensive. Obviously there are other diffrerences, but MB names the car line by the original engine size (4.5L = 450, etc) as a rule, then later modifications will get a badge on the right side. Hence a 300D 2.5 Turbodiesel for the 5 cylinder 2.5L turbocharged engine in the W124 chassis, which originally had the 3.0L OM603 instead of the 2.5L OM602. Just how MB names cars. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD
I bought a 78 SL C for cheap that had several broken linkage bushings. Very poky- top speed was 45 mph IIRC. .. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 06 October 2014, 07:34AM -0400 from MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Having that linkage break while driving would not be my favorite thing in the world. That sounds like a very nice emergency fix. I hope to remember it if I ever need it. Manfred Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 12:17:40 -0500 From: M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com Had fun for about an hour this morning. I fixed the accelerator linkage on the firewall of the red TD. Had that happen on a 450SEL-on the side of the interstate! No good atall. Wound up sticking in a small socket in lieu of the bushing, which held me until I got home and could order a replacement... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Sounds insanely cheap. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 12 September 2014, 04:48AM -0400 from John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net: How about a cheap new vehicle. Lease a smart ED with the battery assurance plus (BAP). Note that MBUSA has captured and retained the $7500 federal incentive, but it's passed on to you anyway. The finance charges on the lease work out to about 1%. Anyhow, the official deal is $999 down and $139/mo for 36 months, with 30k miles over the life of the lease. In Maryland, with taxes, tags, destination fee, etc, it's $3250 down (but it qualifies for a $2200 rebate from MD MVA) and $145/mo. -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:59, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This worth anywhere near the listed price?
Run away from this pos. The owner is obviously lying. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 08 September 2014, 08:02PM -0400 from dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Depends upon condition. If the rust is merely surface which the owner claims but I doubt then it's probably worth the asking price. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1973 Mercedes Benz 280se 4.5 http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4658341271.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FYI 85 123.133 for sale; usable for parts
What color interior? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 08 September 2014, 09:30AM -0400 from John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Mainly drive-train stuff is usable; radiator and oil cooler are no good; body has rust-through in several places, so some body stuff might be usable. It's in Towson, MD (21204); I thought I would give everyone here a shot at it before CL or the wrecker. It was running well until it abruptly stopped, mangling the front end. -j -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 300D fuel sender source?
I can do better. Stay tuned.,. -- Sent from myMail app for Android etter Monday, 30 June 2014, 00:10PM -0400 from ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org: hi Gerry! saw that, thanks; that's the record for the worst price so far. cheers! e On 30/Jun/14 08:28, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l3201_nkw=1983+300D+mercedes+fuel+sender_sacat=0 Scroll down. Gerry ... On 6/29/2014 11:44 AM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi Kaleb! i've sent him an e-mail directly, even though it didn't appear on the website. i've tried taking it apart to clean it up, to no avail. can't imagine it's just a matter of being dead from being dirty anyway, since it's run almost nothing but commercial B99 through it for most of the last ~115K+ miles. next time i mess with pull the thing out into the nice clean interior, i just want to put in one that's going to work. (fuel gauges that read Empty freak out the wife, and i want her to drive the thing more; i can't get her to understand that using the trip odometer to track miles traveled works just fine.) cheers! e On 29/Jun/14 06:22, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Did you try jabba the hurst? Why are you needing a new one anyway? Most of the time all you have to do is clean the old one Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2014, at 2:46 AM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi all! any tips on where to start looking for a Fuel Sender? local Indy says they showed up back-ordered,... i tried the Europarts website, but it didn't seem to be available,.. cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - VW woes ---
Awesome! Keep us informed. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 01:11PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: I took the Passat in for it's two year check-up, free oil change, and a re-call for the head light connector yesterday. While they were mucking about in the engine compartment, they managed to break something somehow, but don't yet know what they did. The check engine light stays one, and relay near the engine is buzzing constantly. They gave up trying to figure it out themselves and called VW tech support today, and were told that they had fried the main engine computer and need to replace it. The parts man reports that there are no new main engine computers in the US nor in Germany at this time. They are continuing to search for one however. I told them that since the car is assembled in Tennessee, that there are indeed new parts in the US - get one. Then is occurred to me that they have new TDIs on the lot - if the part number is the same for the 2012 and the 2014, they can just pull one and let their car sit waiting for a new part! Dr. Fatty, can you look up part numbers for a 2012 VW Passat TDI SE, the main engine computer, and the same part for a 2014??? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Pepper Jelly
What does the distance prize comprise? -- Thursday, 15 May 2014, 10:42PM -0400 from Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com: Andrew -ChowdahQ is Saturday September 13. We'd love to have you ( your pepper jelly) you might win the distance prize. Dwight On May 15, 2014 7:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Might just do that. If I run out of fuel I am sure the pj can be used as biodiesel. Date? On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Andrew, Can we get a jar of jelly donated for ChowdaQ? Everybody's heard so much about it after all... You should drive up with it ;) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Pepper jelly
What with, Wilton? -- Tuesday, 13 May 2014, 10:40AM -0400 from WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com: 'Had some mighty fine pepper jelly this morning. Thanks, again, Andrew! Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON To: mercedes list Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 6:06 PM Subject: Pepper jelly Received a jar of pepper jelly from Andrew here in GOLDsboro, NC, today. Many thanks! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming
Indeed I remember them clesrly. Splendid fellows bearing gifts. A real pleasure. -- Friday, 09 May 2014, 04:57PM -0400 from WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com: I sent you a 123 grille. You met my son and grandson in DC. Grandson is now in grad school at Institut d'Etude Politique de Paris (Science Po). Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming Oh yeah, now I remember. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:11 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Nom de Diesel reverts to just one name - Wilton, or sometimes two, Wilton Strickland. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming Ok, so what's the official 4-name WIltonian nom de diesel? On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:48 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, four, if ya include Colonel. ;) (Couldn't resist.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming Two - Wilton Wayne Three if you include Strickland? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming
For once we can agree... I apologize to all for the extraneous n. -- Thursday, 08 May 2014, 02:56PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: I see you dun no nuffin about Latin either. --R On 5/8/14 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That sounds like yet another one of your straw men. Reduction ad absurdo. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I just had an idea that big ol nukular fusion reactor sitting at the center of our solar system might have some effect on our weather and climate and radiation and stuff like that. And maybe in the past, and the present and future too. But since you won't answer I guess you don't know either. I am thinking that if we raise taxes on the Americans who actually pay taxes and send it to the UN for globalwarmingclimatechangedisruption initiatives things should start improving after they spend most of it flying around the globe in first class and staying at fancy hotels and eating at fancy restaurants and giving it to random third-world kleptocrats to transfer to foreign bank accounts. I am ready to step up and do my part! --R On 5/8/14 1:36 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Your question is irrelevant, or a red herring if you prefer. Whatever caused those prehistoric changes have absolutely no bearing on what we are doing to ourselves now by consuming fossil fuels at an insane rate. But it might have everything to do with the validity of your claim that climate change is something we are doing to ourselves now by consuming fossil fuels at an insane rate. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming
That too. -- Thursday, 08 May 2014, 04:57PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: Reductio ad absurdum. --R (sometimes absurd, but never dum) On 5/8/14 3:00 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: For once we can agree... I apologize to all for the extraneous n. -- Thursday, 08 May 2014, 02:56PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net : I see you dun no nuffin about Latin either. --R On 5/8/14 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That sounds like yet another one of your straw men. Reduction ad absurdo. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming
Don't worry- be happy. Who cares what the scienctists tells us. -- Wednesday, 07 May 2014, 03:31AM -0400 from arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com: Does that include global warming? Gerry On 5/6/2014 9:07 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Yes, the new religion requires that any human activity associated with fossil fuels and / or capitalism must be labeled as evil and blamed for the soon-to-occur end of the world... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On May 6, 2014 8:45 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/05/oklahoma- earthquake-risk_n_5269280.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular Fracking frackers are fracking the place up. Hendrik who is scared by earthquakes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Doesn't Fit -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:10PM -0400 from Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net: Why can't you put one from a pre 85 car on it? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: BTDT. Best I could find was a rebuilt unit for $700.00 :( On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi On 25/04/2014 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. Andrew 1983 300TD - runs great 1985 300TD - runs like a slug ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Yeah. -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:03PM -0400 from Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca: Maybe, but I have to admit that I wonder why you have 2 MB wagons. Surely one would be sufficient for your needs. Given that the 85 seems to be a problem, it might be much easier for you if you swapped it for something that was more common and less trouble to source pieces for. On 25/04/2014 1:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: If I do, there goes the conversation piece. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: 1. get it 2. install it 3. SELL that car NOW On 25/04/2014 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: BTDT. Best I could find was a rebuilt unit for $700.00 :( On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi On 25/04/2014 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. Andrew 1983 300TD - runs great 1985 300TD - runs like a slug ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Which one fits my car? -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:15PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: http://www.maxspeedingrods-store.com/MERCEDES-turbo-cartridges_c94.htm Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:03:52 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee! I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. Andrew 1983 300TD - runs great 1985 300TD - runs like a slug ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Not a fan, although once owned a 78 450 SL C. -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 04:42PM -0400 from Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca: How about a nice SL? On 25/04/2014 3:38 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:03PM -0400 from Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca : Maybe, but I have to admit that I wonder why you have 2 MB wagons. Surely one would be sufficient for your needs. Given that the 85 seems to be a problem, it might be much easier for you if you swapped it for something that was more common and less trouble to source pieces for. On 25/04/2014 1:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: If I do, there goes the conversation piece. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: 1. get it 2. install it 3. SELL that car NOW On 25/04/2014 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: BTDT. Best I could find was a rebuilt unit for $700.00 :( On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi On 25/04/2014 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. Andrew 1983 300TD - runs great 1985 300TD - runs like a slug ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such,
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Not really. Too expensive or wrong year -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:36PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: http://www.ebay.com/itm/77-85-Mercedes-300D-300SD-300CD-W123-W126-Diesel-Turbo-Turbocharger-/181350860703 http://www.ebay.com/itm/84-85-MERCEDES-300D-TURBO-TURBOCHARGER-125778-/121136440135?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessoriesfits=Year%3A1985 |Make%3AMercedes-Benz|Model%3A300TD|Submodel%3ABase|Engine+-+Liter_Display%3A3.0Lhash=item1c344b6347vxp=mtr http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/135489-turbo-cartridge-replacement.html http://www.ebay.com/itm/123-126-300D-300CD-30SD-Turbo-Diesel-Turbocharger-Turbo-Assembly-Excellent-/121163191370?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item1c35e3944avxp=mtr http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-300SD-TURBO-FROM-1984-AND1985-/380281512256?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item588a8b6140vxp=mtr http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-Federal-W-106K-/111220793091?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item19e5469f03vxp=mtr http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1434404-diy-turbo-charger-rebuild-some-pics.html There. That should keep you busy. Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:03:52 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee! I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Yes, yes, no. -- Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 03:51PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Green list... Hmm. Environmentally green? Green tea affectionado? Favorite smoking materials are green? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Why not? -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 00:34PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands. Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any chance? On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad car to see if the problem is solved. Easy-peasy to swap them, loosen the strut mounts at the bottom, jack up the rear at the differential and the springs basically fall out. Reverse procedure to install. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 4:05 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so essentially if your spring is weak more load is carried on the struts. Hendrik who knows very little about SLS systems On 21/04/14 07:57, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the correct springs, but is this relevant? I am leaning toward replacing the rear valve, although I might be persuaded to change the springs as well. Or change those first. Anyone? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
First I need to confirm diameter of springs in the other wagon. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and stick them in the bouncy car to see if they caused the bounce? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Service manual says otherwise. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and stick them in the bouncy car to see if they caused the bounce? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC
LOL! -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:59PM -0400 from Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com: Let me put it this way. These poodles get excited about hunting cats about 10x what wakes you up each day. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 19, 2014 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is poodle a local tree or a hairdo? On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: My wife's sister lives in CH but she is sitting here next to me under a big poodle. Daughter is in Gboro, driving an SD down here tomorrow --R (sent from my miniPad) On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thanks, Wilton. Dan On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:49 PM, WILTON wrote: Tim Crone lives in Chapel Hill. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com ; Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC Isn't someone on the list a resident of this area? There's what appears to be a really nice 300TD for sale there with a manny tranny. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] grid
Now I want one too, -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:52PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: Or this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/321378831193?redirect=mobile http://m.ebay.com/itm/321378831193?nav=SEARCH Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Rick Hawkins Java Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:18 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] grid how about some grid like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plastic-Replacement-Grid-for-15-Drip-Tray-Draft-Beer-Tray-Prevent-Splashing-/280928527836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4168a525dc thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
That I can try on my own - great idea. -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:28PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it I'd still like to know what makes Andy's wagon go boing, boing, boing. Would having too high a spring rate on the steel springs cause it to be oversprung and underdamped to the point where it would fail a does it bounce more than twice? test? More to the point of passing safety inspection, does it get better or worse with ten bags of softener salt in the back? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol]
I didn't think any of you troglodytes would notice. . -- Friday, 18 April 2014, 01:53PM -0400 from Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net: Andrew: Never use a preposition to end a sentence with! Greg, unofficial Grammar Police. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 7:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol] What bait am I supposed to rise to? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay
That is a huge help. Thanks so much. May I have your turbocharger please? I really need one. ;) -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 11 April 2014, 10:29PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:36:43 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay That would be awesome - thanks! Please focus on the location of the turbocharger. Sorry it took me so long. Here ya go. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1zkopqlbvs14kz/0h5z5GtUBS Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
I did. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 07 April 2014, 11:14PM -0400 from Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com: Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens... Andrew, Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the wheels, or the later email asking if you had seen either of the first two? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
No trunk - this is a 300td (wagon) . -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 02 April 2014, 04:31PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
No trunk - this is a 300td (wagon) . -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 02 April 2014, 04:31PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Installed used relay in '84 300D
Need to organize my garage first. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 30 March 2014, 00:01AM -0400 from Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com: My goal this summer during car season is accomplishing something that merits a Wiltonian Attaboy! An Honorable goal, Indeed! Go for Broke! Andrew! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
Some drs. are not in it for the money. Doctors Without Borders, for example. I always support them if modestly. Y -- Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 29 March 2014, 00:34PM -0400 from dsereta...@yahoo.com: If you look at the exorbitant cost of medical school, the insane number of years of training( 7-12 years after college) and the number of hours per week working during that training (80-120) for miserable pay, then every doctor should be entitled to at least a new Mercedes! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's actually a good thing isn't it? Where is it written that every physician has to be wealthy. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Q: What´s the difference between an Obamacare HMO physician and a seagull? A: A seagull can still make a significant deposit on a Mercedes. ba-da-boom, I'll be here all week... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?
Why Granada? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:02:20 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook? No not me but if no one claims it... My macbook got stolen by my daughter's landlord in Granada last summer when we were visiting. --R On 10/22/11 12:31 PM, LWB250 wrote: Somebody (Rich?) sent me a white 13 iBook a couple of years ago to check out. I wasn't able to at the time since I didn't have a power supply for it. I just found it in my stuff while unpacking. If you're the owner and want it returned, drop me a PM and I'll get it on the way back to you... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Isn't this accomplished when the car is on a lift? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:55:50 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. And I would also add to the explanation of the procedure, to wear old clothes and prepare to take a hydraulic fluid shower. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Can you recommend a good condiitioner? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:10:58 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. I realize that's how it's SUPPOSED to work, but when working on the suspension of my 500SEL Euro I seem to always get a Febi shampoo anyway. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Activity
Whatever topic I raise, conversation does seem to flow freely. I like to think of myself as the Johnny Appleseed of this list. Andrew Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:03:40 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Activity Mostly we beat up on Andrew, almost as popular as an oil thread. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: You were a prolific bunch over the weekend. I access this list at my office only and thus generally don't see it over the weekend. Lots of new posts to read this morning. Randy _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 TD sunroof frame
What won't work? Doesn't close? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: M G trainpain2...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 19:32:52 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 123 TD sunroof frame OK Looks like I need a sunroof frame for a 123 TD. that's the part mounted under the roof that the sun roof slides on and the drain hoses connect to. The one on the new car is all gone on one side. Seems that Mercedes does not have any and has no plans to produce new ones so my only option is to find one from a car that is being parted out. If anyone runs across one in the southeast please let me know. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] smoke stink
Ground fresh coffee beans can help absorb SOME of the odors. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:43:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] smoke stink On 13/09/2011 3:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone... Not if there is ANY fabric inside. RLE What he meant to say, is that after a month or so one would get used to the smell and not really care. Ugh! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities
Did you test a sample for asbestos? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:42:56 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities On 12/09/2011 9:52 AM, Craig wrote: We are in the process of remodeling our kitchen, which was originally built in 1959 and apparently remodeled in 1987. As the end of a series of thoughts about asbestos, I sent a sample of linoleum off to be tested. It came back negative, but the samples of sheetrock/joint compound I sent off later turned out positive. So, last Friday and Saturday I was helped by Charles Perea of the Johnny O. Perea Foundation to take down the sheetrock, using all proper protections, including a high volume, HEPA filtered blower which sucks the air in the kitchen, filters it, and blows it out an outside window. Two very long, tiring days and we are not finished yet. Sunday morning, we went out to the '94 E420 to go to church and found it ran VERY roughly. So we got into the '95 E320 and drove off. We found the heat wasn't coming on as it should. Yesterday afternoon, I tried the E420 again, and found that it smoothed out, but had a lot of lifter noise (I did change from Castrol 10W-40 to Mobil 1, but grabbed the wrong bottle and it ended up with 2.5 quarts 15W-40 and 5 quarts 0W-40). The lifter noise quieted down after awhile. I'm thinking it was a collapsed lifter and wondering how much of a problem that will be. I noticed on the E320 that there was more airflow out the footwell vents as it was changing from heating to cooling than when it was in the heating mode. I hope that's not too hard to fix. Craig I am surprised that they did not recommend that you just leave the drywall alone or perhaps cover it with another layer of new stuff. I read some of the information on their site after your post and they seem most intent upon not disturbing any material that may include asbestos if at all possible. Not what most of us want to hear. We have vermiculite insulation in the attic out at the lake and I would love to have it gone. They (Perea) say it is best not to disburb it and that it is difficult to test and confirm that it contains or does not contain asbestos. I have thought seriously about trying to vaccuum it out of the attic but do not wish to have the dust filter down into the rooms below. The house is old enough that there is no poly vapour barrier in the ceiling so there would be cracks that might permit some to filter down. My other choice may be to put up a poly vapour barrier and then cover the ceilings with new material from below so that I have less concern about the filtering down of small particles when it is windy out etc. The kitchen is drywall so it is fairly tight with the exception of the two lights but the living room and one of the bedrooms have wooden ceilings that will not be quite as tight. I do wonder how dangerous it might be to remove it if I was careful and wore a good respirator etc. Again, my major concern is that disturbing it in the attic might cause the particles to filter down into the rooms below and I am uncertain as to how one might best prevent or clean that up after. They talk about putting poly sheeting down but it would be difficult to cover everything and then remove it without losing some of it. A professional crew with experience might know how to acccomlish that but I am afraid I might just make matters worse than they currently are. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:19:22 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo My large Advents I bought in 74 are still in daily use, I had to get them re-coned about15 years ago, but that was cheap. The guy who did it said, Ah, some of the best speakers ever made. When I went to MIT a few years after I bought them, the old Advent factory was just down the street from my apartment. --R On 8/28/11 9:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dan wrote: I remember the sales guys in the electronics place I worked at calling these Advent killers. I finally bought myself some advents - I always wanted advent since early '70's I have no idea how old these are - but they do alright... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene
Power went out at 5 PM yesterday. Might take days to restore. Thank you. Pepco. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:18:23 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene Yeah, gonna be a good one in DC, I think. My sister lives just off the GW Parkway a few miles north of Mt. Vernon -- no danger of flooding, I don't think, but plenty of rain. My BIL has a boat at my Aunt's place in West River, 'round the corner from Annapolis, that's more of a worry. Never been flooded there, either, and it's pretty sheltered from the Bay, but it's going to be a LONG storm, I think. It's as big a Katrina on satellite Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene
So who gets the credit? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:27:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene Well, this morning, we still have power, no trees have fallen as far as I can see down the block, and there isn't any water in the basement. Lots of debris all over the place, but thats the worst of it. Its not over yet, but so far so good! Jaime On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 10:56 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, sure is quiet outside. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene My knee was hurting yesterday, but the dogs could not have cared less about what was going on. I heard the lemurs at the Natl Zoo got all noodgie 15mon before the earthquake the other day though. --R On 8/27/11 10:18 PM, John Reames wrote: Speaking of cats, how are everyone's animals acting? One of the cats here was wide-eyed/complaining like something was wrong (Baltimore,MD) this morning, before we even saw any rain... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Aug 27, 2011, at 14:29, Max Dillonmeadedillon@bellsouth.**netmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Irene probably won't be done with you for another 24 to 36 hours. You're welcome to evacuate to my house, cats and all, but I won't promise any about talking politics. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogelastrasfogel@gmail.**com astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Already had an inch of rain in my DC back yard, and the storm is still 200+ miles to the SE... On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:11 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I wish you well. Downed trees are usually our worst problem with these storms here. They knock out power, crush houses, cars, etc. Coastal and low areas have the flooding problem, of course. No fun to have a roof blow off, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com** To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene Oh man, good luck down there. I just boarded up the huge opening in our attic for the whole house fan and taped up the large windows we have just in case. Gutters are clean, fridge and freezer are packed with everything we can find that will stay cold. We're under a Hurricane warning now, so they're expecting it to pass pretty close. The water is one thing, but I'm worried about all the mature trees here in our densely populated town. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nobody has a 602 they are parting out.
What is a 602? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:07:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Nobody has a 602 they are parting out. Im almost deperate enough to pay for new from Rusty. Anyone? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD
No and no. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:52:36 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD How did you hit the curb, tire tread or tire sidewall? Any damage done to the rim? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The swap was done back in May. Just remembered something else that might be worth mentioning - I hit the curb with my right rear wheel before the symptoms appeared. Coincidence? Irrelevant On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Went out for another drive. Noise pitch varies with engine speed, not road speed. In neutral, coasting, there the noise abates. If I apply hard throttle, there is a startling metallic grinding noise in the rear in addition to the whistle/whine coupled with the gear shifting, along with a clunk. When i ease off, it's back to normal. I like Max's explanation and will follow his suggestion. Hmm, front half of transmission? Just had an engine swap? Torque converter had better be bolted tight to the flywheel, and flywheel to crank. Torque converter failing internally might do it, but the timing would be coincidental. _ **_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com; _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD
Driveability is not affected - shifs normally. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:07:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD Went out for another drive. Noise pitch varies with engine speed, not road speed. In neutral, coasting, there the noise abates. Truly? Torque converter? Front end of tranny innards? What is the stall speed of the engine? (Jam brakes and throttle while stopped, note engine RPM.) Stripped stator splines on TC connection results in whine, low starting torque, low engine stall-speed RPM. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD
1. I cut the corner a little tight. 2. RR Tire sidewall banged into the curb but no visible damage. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:01:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD Your reply is missing something. You said you hit a curb with the right rear wheel. Q1: How did that happen? Q2: What part of the tire/wheel made contact with the curb? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: astrasfo...@gmail.com astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 9:16:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD No and no. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:52:36 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD How did you hit the curb, tire tread or tire sidewall? Any damage done to the rim? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The swap was done back in May. Just remembered something else that might be worth mentioning - I hit the curb with my right rear wheel before the symptoms appeared. Coincidence? Irrelevant On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Went out for another drive. Noise pitch varies with engine speed, not road speed. In neutral, coasting, there the noise abates. If I apply hard throttle, there is a startling metallic grinding noise in the rear in addition to the whistle/whine coupled with the gear shifting, along with a clunk. When i ease off, it's back to normal. I like Max's explanation and will follow his suggestion. Hmm, front half of transmission? Just had an engine swap? Torque converter had better be bolted tight to the flywheel, and flywheel to crank. Torque converter failing internally might do it, but the timing would be coincidental. _ **_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com; ; _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
Is timing an issue for earlier diesel engines? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:10:14 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Check your timing. Rusy sells a $30 tool that makes timing the 603 a 15-20min job. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 12:29 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote: Sounds line weak/bad glow plug(s). -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
So how/when/whY would I adjust timing on my W123 turbodiesel? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:14:10 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Diesel engines are all about timing. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 01:11 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is timing an issue for earlier diesel engines? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolfr...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:10:14 To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Check your timing. Rusy sells a $30 tool that makes timing the 603 a 15-20min job. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 12:29 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote: Sounds line weak/bad glow plug(s). -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
In 25 years of W123 ownership, I have never heard of drip timing. Nor has any tech ever brought this up as a maintenance issue or requirement. Andrew. 1983, 1985 300TD Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:29:40 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Google drip timing. Once a year or so never hurts -Rolf On 08/10/2011 01:25 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So how/when/whY would I adjust timing on my W123 turbodiesel? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolfr...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:14:10 To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Diesel engines are all about timing. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 01:11 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is timing an issue for earlier diesel engines? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolfr...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:10:14 To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Check your timing. Rusy sells a $30 tool that makes timing the 603 a 15-20min job. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 12:29 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote: Sounds line weak/bad glow plug(s). -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
Great - thanks, Rolf. One last question. So how will this adjustment improve how the engine operates? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:53:24 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, That is up for some debate. I cant see why you wouldnt be able to do it via the RIV tool port on 84 and 85's but GSXR on pp said you couldn't. Why I don't know. Its worth a try I think, unfortunately my 85 has an 83 engine... It should dead simple, similar to the steps liste in 07_1-111. Rotate the engine to the proper timing mark, stick the lock tool in (make sure the slot is horizontal to accept the tang) and then adjust the IP banck or forward until the tang pops in the slot and bam your done. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 01:37 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: Diesel engines are all about timing. Do the later 617 engines take a lock tool similar to the 60x engines? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.
The issue here is AQ. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 09:43:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas. I have some experience with that program. About 12 years ago our local transit system converted several buses to LNG [Liquified Natural Gas] to join the clean is green movement. The engines ran OK, delivery and fill systems worked fine, however, power and mileage lost the match. Total BTU of LNG vs Diesel equation vs costs to convert, store, fill, and deal with the whole mess only worked because it was done on a government paid money is no object program. As soon as the special money ran out back to diesel. Cant imagine how that would work in todays economy for an individual with one or two vehicles, dependent upon the one LNG filling station within 100 miles of home. Your decision, don't shoot the messenger. Grant... If it's diesel, it's mine. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: Is it too early to ask the collective opinion of this apparently new technology that is available to retrofit current diesel engines from dinosaur-diesel fuel to clean burning natural gas? Not sure of the name of the company, but I hear that Caterpillar and Cummins will be using this technoogy. Anyone know more about this and how it works? Jerry 1982 240D Too old to convert __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6361 (20110808) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.
Not old to me. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:46:16 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas. Running diesels on natural gas is old news. Been done for years in the transmission line business. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Are we talking about running diesel engines on CNG (I'd only heard of that with spark ignition engines), or are we talking about synthesizing diesel from NG? Mitch. roger...@comcast.net wrote: Jerry, I'd switch even my old diesels for synthetic diesel. It's cleaner, more power, better mileage, but I don't expect to see it. It's better to try to create something else rather than what could be. And even our old diesels would run on synthetic diesel without costly mods. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108
What is that color - desert sand? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:51:52 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108 This just popped up locally. http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2529563809.html Hard to tell from these photos, but looks like it might be reasonably solid. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450 SLC
Nice color for an S LC. AC issue sounds a bit fishy. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:53:49 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 450 SLC http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2530305628.html Color looks... uneven? Again poor quality photos here. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines
Well put. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 23:14:33 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines But the US government is -- TOO BIG TO FAIL. hahahahahaha The Chinese economy would crash if can't buy all their crap. They won;t let it happen. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: And don't forget they just bought another credit card and charged another $40,000 on it last week. I read in the past week that the U.S. can be likened to a family that makes $48,000 per year, but that spends $75,000 per year. With the latest big belt-tightening, the family is now spending $72,000 per year. All the while having a credit card balance of $384,000. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change
How about anthracite gray/sienna? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:24:15 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change My high line car broker buddy always told me that the combination of silver and maroon took 20% off the value of a car. Not being critical, just making the observation I could live with it myself. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My 87 300D has burgundy leather inside Smoke silver. It is a good combination. (But I'd prefer tex) I have the same problems. Someone was selling the MB reinforcment foam bits for these on benzworld I think. $40 per side IIRC. The problem with my seats is that the scalloping on the sides is broken, I have to replace the whole chair. At the same time the tex is worn in one place. If there is anything I have learned, rare int colors, like burgundy or high quartz should be avoided in a purchase. Beige may be dull but they are a dime a dozen at the yard. I would love leather seats but never seen burdgundy... -Rolf On 08/02/2011 06:16 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Hey gang, how hard is it to RR the spring box in an early 124 front seat, once I have the seat out of the car? Is it enough of a pain that I am better off trying the pool-noodle fix? How does that work exactly---you wedge the noodles between the top and bottom layers of the spring box, or just between the seat and the carpet? (I'm looking at the bottom side of the rear base cushion and imagining that the fronts probably are constructed more or less the same, where the springs are not coils as in an old-fashioned mattress but look more like a network or webbing of spring steel parallel to the seat base.) Thoughts? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
What are warning signs for a worn-about-to-snap timing chain on a 1983 or '85 W123 turbodiesel? Andrew (300TD x 2) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:45:31 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com writes: I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. If the oil changes haven't been overextended, it's unlikely IMO that the chain would be in need of replacement at only 150K miles. Use of a diesel-rated synthetic such as M1 Turbo Diesel Truck a/k/a Delvac-1 should reduce chain wear/stretch to nearly negligible. Check it as Mitch described if you want to put your mind at ease. The rough starts could be due to a bad glow plug or two... is your dash glow lamp working properly? This will only get worse as the fall/winter arrives and temps start to drop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DC
Barky? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:09:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DC At some of the outlying stops. Problem is that they fill up with commuters, but you can check. Metro is easy and pretty quick to get into the mall or other areas. The kids would love the Natural History museum, lots of dinosaurs and other creatures on display. Kleb would probably like the one with all the old mechanical stuff (it is the really old castle looking building on the mall, forget what it is called). Don't forget to stop in and say hi to Barky, though he might still be in Chitown raising money. Don't get close enough to Harry Reid that he can smell you, he doesn't like to smell the tourists. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So you can park the car at the metro and ride that to town? There is parking at the metro, right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DC
Yes bit not free/unlimited so be careful. We are VERY efficient at parking enforcement. :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:45:57 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DC So you can park the car at the metro and ride that to town? There is parking at the metro, right? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Definitely. Find a Metro stop in someplace like Rockville MD, and ride in to the city. Cheap, safe, and relatively quick. Just be sure to check the schedule, as the Metro does shut down at night. I got stranded in Georgetown bar hopping one night because the last Metro out was at midnight... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yesterday I went to the Air Space museum at Dulles Airport. Awesome. THe one in town is very cool too, but if you go there, park out somewhere and take the metro in (then you can do all the other stuff too), traffic is crazy and there is no parking anywhere. The one out there has a shuttle, SR71, and all kinds of other cool planes and rockets and stuff. $15 to park, entrance is free In general traffic is a mess morning and evenings, midday it is relatively tolerable but still heavy and stop and go in places. Our Lady of Perpetual Construction is in widespread evidence EVERYWHERE. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I think I'm going to leave Maine in the morning and its about a 10 hour drive to dc. That will leave us all day Friday before heading back home. If I have 1 day in dc what is one must see thing? Maybe just driving around seeing the sights? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD
Easy to check, as I must have a spare switch in the garage. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 22:38:02 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD When it gets super hot, my turn signal stops flashing. Is this more likely to be caused by the flasher relay or the rocker switch in the console? The odds are always on the switch, but you could have the exception. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD
Capacitors in the relay? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Barry Stark barryst...@verizon.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:50:02 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD Andrew - The flasher in my '81 SD had quit and I just replaced a couple of the usual old dried out electrolytic capacitors in there and it had been working fine since. I wonder if yours has a capacitor that is ready to go and sensitive to temperature? They are easy to replace. Barry When it gets super hot, my turn signal stops flashing. Is this more likely to be caused by the flasher relay or the rocker switch in the console? When the temp. cools down everything is back to normal. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Collection - $1500 (Rutland)
For the entire collection? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:23:40 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Collection - $1500 (Rutland) Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:Mercedes Benz Collection - $1500 (Rutland) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:21:57 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/2524506251.html to contact the person who posted this. Mercedes Benz Collection Date: 2011-08-01, 2:48PM Flagship Mercedes benz 560 SEL $1500. each 3 available 420 SEL 1 available, 84 300 CD, 89 300TE, 87 300 TD, 83 300TD, Tractor Trailer full of parts as well. Stop by and take a look lots of Mercedes Parts, cleaning out, serious cash buyers. Thanks for looking!! No scammers/spammers * Location: Rutland * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/2524506251.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX181NzM3NTczNujPzExRwN_4AvUU2n0nNxkEAPpySTvSxGBUqLOETAgMHhkuDPr3MNxToIswsDDwNA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
OK. Let me phrase this slightly differently. If you were limited to ONE composer whom would you choose to listen to exclusively7 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:01:50 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.comMercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD astrasfogel wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. The greatest what? The greatest composer? The greatest composer in his style/era? The term classical music is confusing because Classical is a style or period or era. J.S. Bach and Beethoven are in different eras/styles. Bach is in the Baroque era/period, it's pretty difficult to compare them. It would be like asking who is the greatest Sports figure? When the question might be who is the greatest football player? It's pretty hard to compare a football player and a tennis player. Likewise, it is difficult to compare composers from different eras/periods. So, Bach is arguably the greatest of the Baroque period/style. And arguably, Beethoven the greatest of the Classical period. EXCEPT, ole Ludwig only wrote 9 symphonies. So, I think Mozart gets the nod. Some people would include Beethoven in the Romantic period, but I think that is incorrect because his symphonies followed most of the strict formalities of the classical periods. He might be a transition between the two. For me, the greatest of the Romantic period is Wagner. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad trap oxidizers [was: Re: GUMP is DEAD]
Wow. How can I tell if turbo/TO are original? Would a photo help one of our resident ezperts? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:06:12 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Bad trap oxidizers [was: Re: GUMP is DEAD] On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:52 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: It's been good for 26 years. What are the odds of this happening now? Hey, don't shoot the messenger. :) But the standing lifetime recall on TO-equipped cars is there for a reason. My theory is that your car is not on either its original TO or its original turbo. D-B went through several iterations before giving up and installing the straight (actually kind of curvy) pipe that you almost always see on 603 engines. It's very likely that the TO has nothing to do with the reduced soot you're seeing with this car (which could be caused by about a dozen other, more likely things). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] reduced mpg in 91 300D
Great advice! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:10:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] reduced mpg in 91 300D That is evident by driving some distance (miles) then checking the temp of the wheels with your hand. If a brake is dragging, you WILL know it. It is also good practice to walk around occasionally during a highway stop and put your hand on the tires. One tire hotter indicates low pressure or a bad tire. Mitch Haley wrote: One more thing, since I believe this car was recently parked for a while with transmission problems: Is there an overabundance of brake dust on one wheel? Or, did somebody in the shop apply a parking brake that hadn't been used in years, and is there a stuck parking brake cable? Or DOT3 brake fluid cause a swollen hose? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sheryls old junker up for auction
Sheryl who? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:07:14 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Sheryls old junker up for auction http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110725/COLLECTOR/110729926 I would have thought she is more of a pick up truck type. Hendrik who likes some of Sheryls stuff, even some of her music ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Both of my US spec 300 TD wagons have rear child seats to take care of up to 3 additional offspring. Feel free to make a preemptive offer. Andrew Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:14:50 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD redghost wrote: This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong. Manual everywhere, much as Gump was. Oooh. My dream is a TD turbo, manual transmission, manual heater controls, power windows. I think I'll probably have to build it to actually get one. Meanwhile, the family doesn't really fit in a 123 anymore. I may have to look for something a bit bigger. *sigh* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Sure, but to be fair I expect to compliment me if this calamity doesn't come to pass. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:06:46 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD The odds of a device failing increase with every use. I'd forgotten that a failing TO destroys the turbo. If it were a case of the thing just plugging up and you having less power I'd say eh, whatever but when it takes out your turbo I'll laugh like a hyena. You've been warned, when it fails be prepared to be mocked. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:52:43 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: CAC35L=t0bxgv1ydoqggrdmxnjned1maaguojzjms6amqdo7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's been good for 26 years. What are the odds of this happening now? On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like the extra stuff on the '85. Andrew seems to prefer it - but I would rather have the less refined but simpler. Andrew likes the fact that the TO on the '85 keeps his trunklid clean. He doesn't seem to care that sooner or later it will self-destruct and dump chunks of catalyst into his turbo. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
