Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
I did the same, bought a 2-stroke Lawn Boy professional push mower about 2001 or so, cost a lot at the time but still running strong today. No drive mechanism, but cast aluminum deck so it's light enough that it's easy to push without it. Allan Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > I bit the bullet and bought a really nice Honda walk behind in 2013 because I > was tired of throw away lawn mowers. It wasn’t pleasant dropping over $500 at > the time for a mower, but it was money well spent. I’ve puled the (original) > plug several times over the years. Only had to regap it once, it still looks > like new. Change oil annually, always clean when it comes out. I change the > air filter every two years, but knocking the dirt out of it every couple of > weeks seems to make it just as good, too. > > I would definitely do it again. > > -D > >> On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> You did better than I did with my mid 90's Quantum -- blasted thing burned >> oil right out of the box and knocked badly. Total junk. >> >> My cheap Chinese replacement from Rural King starts on the first pull every >> time, never uses ANY oil, and the oil never darkens in use. >> >> I will be getting a Honda 165 for a replacement on the Snapper 21 >> self-propel, that Briggs was junk too, although since I got it used it's har >> to tell if it was junk when new or just badly abused. >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
I bit the bullet and bought a really nice Honda walk behind in 2013 because I was tired of throw away lawn mowers. It wasn’t pleasant dropping over $500 at the time for a mower, but it was money well spent. I’ve puled the (original) plug several times over the years. Only had to regap it once, it still looks like new. Change oil annually, always clean when it comes out. I change the air filter every two years, but knocking the dirt out of it every couple of weeks seems to make it just as good, too. I would definitely do it again. -D > On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > You did better than I did with my mid 90's Quantum -- blasted thing burned > oil right out of the box and knocked badly. Total junk. > > My cheap Chinese replacement from Rural King starts on the first pull every > time, never uses ANY oil, and the oil never darkens in use. > > I will be getting a Honda 165 for a replacement on the Snapper 21 > self-propel, that Briggs was junk too, although since I got it used it's har > to tell if it was junk when new or just badly abused. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
You did better than I did with my mid 90's Quantum -- blasted thing burned oil right out of the box and knocked badly. Total junk. My cheap Chinese replacement from Rural King starts on the first pull every time, never uses ANY oil, and the oil never darkens in use. I will be getting a Honda 165 for a replacement on the Snapper 21 self-propel, that Briggs was junk too, although since I got it used it's har to tell if it was junk when new or just badly abused. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
> Larry wrote: > one day someone will figure out how to put EFI on small engines > at a cost comparable to carbs and carbs will disappear > completely - like they have on cars. Stihl has it on the 500. The big selling point, or at least the big talk-about point, is the lighting fast throttle response. Not quite as much power as the 750 it is supposed to replace. Like I really care about throttle response on my saw. No mention of decreased fuel consumption, that I have seen. Noticeable price difference. I imagine it will "trickle down" in time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
My weed wacker doesn’t have a shutoff valve, but since it’s a 40:1 mix I don’t worry if I don’t run it completely out. My Honda lawn mower has a shutoff valve and I always turn it off and run it until it quits. Remember, too, that we cut grass here year ‘round, which eliminates a lot of the issues of bad gas and varnished carbs. If it happens it’s usually in the winter, as I only have to cut grass maybe once a month from November to March. -D > On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > That is a good habit to get into. I need to start doing that but I generally > forget about it. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> True. I am very careful to always run my stuff out of fuel when I’m >> finished and shut off the supply. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> In my experience most small engine problems are caused by old gas in the >>> tank and carb (assuming nothing obvious like broken fuel lines or clogged >>> filters). There are rebuild kits but I usually find new (same brand) carbs >>> on eBay very cheap (like $20) that work well. >>> -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes I think the weird knobs are there to ensure you need to buy new equipment more often... -Curt >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
That is a good habit to get into. I need to start doing that but I generally forget about it. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > True. I am very careful to always run my stuff out of fuel when I’m finished > and shut off the supply. > > -D > > >> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> In my experience most small engine problems are caused by old gas in the >> tank and carb (assuming nothing obvious like broken fuel lines or clogged >> filters). There are rebuild kits but I usually find new (same brand) carbs >> on eBay very cheap (like $20) that work well. >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>> >>> I think the weird knobs are there to ensure you need to buy new equipment >>> more often... >>> -Curt >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
So does our 1995 Craftsman mower with a Briggs engine - it just keeps on ... It only gets fuel with Stal-Bil in it. On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 6:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My 1961 Snapper RER starts right up every time. The engine is a 1988 > Briggs that is surprisingly reliable > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 6:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Considering what it costs to do on a car > now, you would think they would have figured it out. Co-worker just > retrofitted an old Chevy pickup truck with a Holley TBI system, and it was > pretty reasonable compared to buying a new carb. When you factor in the > flexibility it gives him and the ability to get feedback and control, it’s > money well spent, I thought. > > That being said, I’m still amazed that my Honda walk behind mower I bought > new in 2013 still starts on the first pull every time. That’s something > majikal. > > -D > > > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > one day someone will figure out how to put EFI on small engines at a > cost comparable to carbs and carbs will disappear completely - like they > have on cars. > > > > LarryT > > 06 E350 > > Youroil.net > > > > On 3/27/2020 1:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > >>> Floyd wrote: > >>> Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string > >>> trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with > >>> the mixtures. > >> > >>> Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being > >>> frustrated with the things pretty much forever. > >>> Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in > >>> Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. > >> Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions > >> - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you > >> had to bypass or remove them > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
You both missed the important point from Larry " put EFI on small engines at *acost comparable* to carbs ". On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Point well taken. > > -D > > > On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Ohh... good then we can be forced to buy $4,000 weed eaters and chain > > saws. > > Simple is good, dead simple is better. I can buy a new carb for a weed > > eater for about $12 bucks... I can only imagine what a computer injection > > system, with injector and an electrical system to run them would cost > for a > > simple engine driven yard tool > > Pass Thank you very much... > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:48 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> one day someone will figure out how to put EFI on small engines at a > >> cost comparable to carbs and carbs will disappear completely - like they > >> have on cars. > >> > >> LarryT > >> 06 E350 > >> Youroil.net > >> > >> On 3/27/2020 1:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Floyd wrote: > Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string > trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with > the mixtures. > >>> > Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being > frustrated with the things pretty much forever. > Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in > Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. > >>> Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions > >>> - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you > >>> had to bypass or remove them > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
True. I am very careful to always run my stuff out of fuel when I’m finished and shut off the supply. -D > On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > In my experience most small engine problems are caused by old gas in the tank > and carb (assuming nothing obvious like broken fuel lines or clogged > filters). There are rebuild kits but I usually find new (same brand) carbs > on eBay very cheap (like $20) that work well. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> >> I think the weird knobs are there to ensure you need to buy new equipment >> more often... >> -Curt >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
My 1961 Snapper RER starts right up every time. The engine is a 1988 Briggs that is surprisingly reliable Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 6:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Considering what it costs to do on a car now, you would think they would have figured it out. Co-worker just retrofitted an old Chevy pickup truck with a Holley TBI system, and it was pretty reasonable compared to buying a new carb. When you factor in the flexibility it gives him and the ability to get feedback and control, it’s money well spent, I thought. That being said, I’m still amazed that my Honda walk behind mower I bought new in 2013 still starts on the first pull every time. That’s something majikal. -D > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > one day someone will figure out how to put EFI on small engines at a cost > comparable to carbs and carbs will disappear completely - like they have on > cars. > > LarryT > 06 E350 > Youroil.net > > On 3/27/2020 1:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >>> Floyd wrote: >>> Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string >>> trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with >>> the mixtures. >> >>> Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being >>> frustrated with the things pretty much forever. >>> Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in >>> Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. >> Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions >> - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you >> had to bypass or remove them >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
Float-bowl carbs (typical on 4-cycle engines like mowers, edgers, snow blowers, etc.) can usually be "fixed" by dropping the float bowl and reaming gum and corrosion from the main jet (I usually unscrew the jet to clean it). But the dual-diaphragm carbs on small 2-cycle motors (chain saws, leaf blowers, weed whackers, etc.) aren't worth fixing; just replace with new. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 6:29 PM > To: Okie Benz > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance > > Considering what it costs to do on a car now, you would think they would have > figured it out. Co-worker just retrofitted an old Chevy pickup truck with a > Holley TBI system, and it was pretty reasonable compared to buying a new > carb. When you factor in the flexibility it gives him and the ability to get > feedback and control, it’s money well spent, I thought. > > That being said, I’m still amazed that my Honda walk behind mower I bought > new in 2013 still starts on the first pull every time. That’s something > majikal. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
In my experience most small engine problems are caused by old gas in the tank and carb (assuming nothing obvious like broken fuel lines or clogged filters). There are rebuild kits but I usually find new (same brand) carbs on eBay very cheap (like $20) that work well. > -Original Message- > From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes > > I think the weird knobs are there to ensure you need to buy new equipment > more often... > -Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
Point well taken. -D > On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Ohh... good then we can be forced to buy $4,000 weed eaters and chain > saws. > Simple is good, dead simple is better. I can buy a new carb for a weed > eater for about $12 bucks... I can only imagine what a computer injection > system, with injector and an electrical system to run them would cost for a > simple engine driven yard tool > Pass Thank you very much... > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:48 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> one day someone will figure out how to put EFI on small engines at a >> cost comparable to carbs and carbs will disappear completely - like they >> have on cars. >> >> LarryT >> 06 E350 >> Youroil.net >> >> On 3/27/2020 1:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Floyd wrote: Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with the mixtures. >>> Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being frustrated with the things pretty much forever. Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. >>> Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions >>> - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you >>> had to bypass or remove them >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
Considering what it costs to do on a car now, you would think they would have figured it out. Co-worker just retrofitted an old Chevy pickup truck with a Holley TBI system, and it was pretty reasonable compared to buying a new carb. When you factor in the flexibility it gives him and the ability to get feedback and control, it’s money well spent, I thought. That being said, I’m still amazed that my Honda walk behind mower I bought new in 2013 still starts on the first pull every time. That’s something majikal. -D > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > one day someone will figure out how to put EFI on small engines at a cost > comparable to carbs and carbs will disappear completely - like they have on > cars. > > LarryT > 06 E350 > Youroil.net > > On 3/27/2020 1:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >>> Floyd wrote: >>> Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string >>> trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with >>> the mixtures. >> >>> Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being >>> frustrated with the things pretty much forever. >>> Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in >>> Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. >> Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions >> - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you >> had to bypass or remove them >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
Ohh... good then we can be forced to buy $4,000 weed eaters and chain saws. Simple is good, dead simple is better. I can buy a new carb for a weed eater for about $12 bucks... I can only imagine what a computer injection system, with injector and an electrical system to run them would cost for a simple engine driven yard tool Pass Thank you very much... On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:48 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > one day someone will figure out how to put EFI on small engines at a > cost comparable to carbs and carbs will disappear completely - like they > have on cars. > > LarryT > 06 E350 > Youroil.net > > On 3/27/2020 1:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > >> Floyd wrote: > >> Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string > >> trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with > >> the mixtures. > > > >> Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being > >> frustrated with the things pretty much forever. > >> Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in > >> Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. > > Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions > > - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you > > had to bypass or remove them > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
one day someone will figure out how to put EFI on small engines at a cost comparable to carbs and carbs will disappear completely - like they have on cars. LarryT 06 E350 Youroil.net On 3/27/2020 1:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Floyd wrote: Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with the mixtures. Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being frustrated with the things pretty much forever. Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you had to bypass or remove them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
There’s some truth to that. -D > On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > My crusty old neighbor in DC used to complain that his mower stopped > running smoothly when ethanol was blended into gas. > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:27 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I think the weird knobs are there to ensure you need to buy new equipment >> more often... >> -Curt >> >>On Friday, March 27, 2020, 1:04:32 AM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Floyd wrote: >> >>> Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string >>> trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with >>> the mixtures. >> >> >>> Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being >>> frustrated with the things pretty much forever. >> >>> Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in >>> Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. >> >> Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions >> - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you >> had to bypass or remove them >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
My crusty old neighbor in DC used to complain that his mower stopped running smoothly when ethanol was blended into gas. On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:27 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think the weird knobs are there to ensure you need to buy new equipment > more often... > -Curt > > On Friday, March 27, 2020, 1:04:32 AM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Floyd wrote: > > > Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string > > trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with > > the mixtures. > > > > Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being > > frustrated with the things pretty much forever. > > > Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in > > Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. > > Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions > - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you > had to bypass or remove them > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
I think the weird knobs are there to ensure you need to buy new equipment more often... -Curt On Friday, March 27, 2020, 1:04:32 AM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Floyd wrote: > Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string > trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with > the mixtures. > Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being > frustrated with the things pretty much forever. > Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in > Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you had to bypass or remove them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
> Floyd wrote: > Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string > trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with > the mixtures. > Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being > frustrated with the things pretty much forever. > Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in > Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. Yup. Ironic that by adjusting them you _decreased_ the emissions - the very thing those goofy caps were supposed to insure, yet you had to bypass or remove them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
Better than needing adjustment, my brother gave me one from his days trimming the graveyard next to his house. Wife didn't like it, ran OK, etc. Got it over the winter and went to start it in the spring and about ruptured myself hauling on the starter cord. Blasted thing would hit a couple licks and stop. Took it apart. cleaned the plug, flushed out the carb (which looked fine), and was about to call my brother and ask what I was overlooking when he drove up. First words out of his mouth were "look at the exhaust" -- sure enough, it was the perfect size for a mud dauber to build a nest. Three seconds with a screwdriver and it fired right up. Little motors like that always have to be adjusted slightly, the screws vibrate around over time. Just don't make them smoke and you will be fine, and if it's a 4-stroke, run it just a hair lean rather than rich. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
I had a Troy Built weed whacker with a bunch of matching attachments for about 8 years. Always used good gas in it, etc. Started to run poorly about a year ago. Looked at the adjustments and saw that I needed a set of the Pac Man tools. Got some from the Island of Large Wimmen. Minor adjustments, no doubt due to the years of wear, and it’s running just fine. I wonder how many of these end up in the trash because people can’t twiddle the adjustments? Sort of difficult to justify taking it in for service. So you now have company in the execution of a Federal felony, if that’s what the punishment is. Oy. -D > On Mar 26, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string trimmer, and > a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with the mixtures. The chainsaw > carburetor can be adjusted with a little screwdriver, which is curious as > that must violate various federal laws and constitutes an act of > ecoterrorism. But it is easy to deal with it in the field. The other 2 each > have a different head on the adjusters for some reason unclear. > > The trimmer and blower were running like crap. I ordered little set of 10 > tools from Amazon Prime for $10, apparently they will adjust about ever tool. > The blower takes a "Pac Man" whatever that is and the trimmer like a little > 4mm (or so) hex head. But they have to be really small to fit in the holes > the head are embedded in. (I hate the federal government). > > Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being frustrated > with the things pretty much forever. So I am happy now, a $10 solution to my > problem! > > Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in Kollyfawnya) > felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT well that fixed an annoyance
Actually two. I have these 3 Stihl things, a chainsaw, a string trimmer, and a blower. They are constantly out of "tune" with the mixtures. The chainsaw carburetor can be adjusted with a little screwdriver, which is curious as that must violate various federal laws and constitutes an act of ecoterrorism. But it is easy to deal with it in the field. The other 2 each have a different head on the adjusters for some reason unclear. The trimmer and blower were running like crap. I ordered little set of 10 tools from Amazon Prime for $10, apparently they will adjust about ever tool. The blower takes a "Pac Man" whatever that is and the trimmer like a little 4mm (or so) hex head. But they have to be really small to fit in the holes the head are embedded in. (I hate the federal government). Anyway, in short order I got them both running fine after being frustrated with the things pretty much forever. So I am happy now, a $10 solution to my problem! Yay me, although I am probably now a federal (or at least in Kollyfawnya) felon for adjusting the carburetors on these tools. -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
