[MBZ] Online EPC down?

[dave walton]

I can't bring up the Online EPC:
https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp

I log in okay, but can't start it. Anyone else having problems, or is
my computer flaking out?

Thanks

-Dave Walton

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[MBZ] Online EPC down?

[Alex Chamberlain]

Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately?
After logging in I click the link that says "Launch EPC-Net
Online"---then almost immediately I get a small box saying "Unable to
launch EPC" and under that a window saying "Requested
http://epc-prod.startekinfo.com/EPC-net/servlets/epc.jar.  Failed to
load resource."

I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine
since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to
that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a
*newer* version of Java instead?

I'm running XP SP3, if that gives anyone any ideas.  (Other than that
I should try doing this in Linux.)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:25 AM, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't bring up the Online EPC:
> https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp
>
> I log in okay, but can't start it. Anyone else having problems, or is
> my computer flaking out?
>

Dave, did you recently upgrade Java?  On the machine I use to get to
that site (running XP SP2) it won't work with the latest version of
Java; I had to force a downgrade to a previous version.  The failure
mode is exactly as you've described. I don't know the relevant version
numbers offhand, but will check when I get home in about 10 hours.

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[dave walton]

It's back up now.

Thanks

-Dave Walton

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:25 AM, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I can't bring up the Online EPC:
>> https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp
>>
>> I log in okay, but can't start it. Anyone else having problems, or is
>> my computer flaking out?
>>
>
> Dave, did you recently upgrade Java?  On the machine I use to get to
> that site (running XP SP2) it won't work with the latest version of
> Java; I had to force a downgrade to a previous version.  The failure
> mode is exactly as you've described. I don't know the relevant version
> numbers offhand, but will check when I get home in about 10 hours.
>
> Alex Chamberlain
> '87 300D Turbo et al.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain
 wrote:
> Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately?
...
> I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine
> since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to
> that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a
> *newer* version of Java instead?
>

I think I just figured it out, and my guess was right.  Works fine on
another XP SP3 machine with Java Version 6 Update 26 build
1.6.0_26-b03 (per the About Java box in the Java control panel).  I
don't have the first machine in front of me, but I know it's got an
older Java on it, maybe even Version 5.

Summary: If the EPC isn't working, try updating Java to the latest
version at .  Hope this helps
somebody else besides me!

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[G Mann]

I have Java 6, latest version, still EPC doesn't load or open.  It does give
me a courteous message stating it won't open however.. how kind.

Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard copy book
that you could look at?   Ahh, the good old days.  Funny thing... that
book never "crashed" and I could carry it to the car and lay it on the
fender while sorting out what went to what, even if the electricity went
out.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain
>  wrote:
> > Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately?
> ...
> > I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine
> > since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to
> > that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a
> > *newer* version of Java instead?
> >
>
> I think I just figured it out, and my guess was right.  Works fine on
> another XP SP3 machine with Java Version 6 Update 26 build
> 1.6.0_26-b03 (per the About Java box in the Java control panel).  I
> don't have the first machine in front of me, but I know it's got an
> older Java on it, maybe even Version 5.
>
> Summary: If the EPC isn't working, try updating Java to the latest
> version at .  Hope this helps
> somebody else besides me!
>
> Alex
>
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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[buymbparts]

The EPC has been having issues all week. The bad thing is when it is down it is 
down for everyone, including MB dealers. They really hate it.

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From: G Mann 
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Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:50:41 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

I have Java 6, latest version, still EPC doesn't load or open.  It does give
me a courteous message stating it won't open however.. how kind.

Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard copy book
that you could look at?   Ahh, the good old days.  Funny thing... that
book never "crashed" and I could carry it to the car and lay it on the
fender while sorting out what went to what, even if the electricity went
out.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain
>  wrote:
> > Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately?
> ...
> > I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine
> > since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to
> > that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a
> > *newer* version of Java instead?
> >
>
> I think I just figured it out, and my guess was right.  Works fine on
> another XP SP3 machine with Java Version 6 Update 26 build
> 1.6.0_26-b03 (per the About Java box in the Java control panel).  I
> don't have the first machine in front of me, but I know it's got an
> older Java on it, maybe even Version 5.
>
> Summary: If the EPC isn't working, try updating Java to the latest
> version at <http://www.java.com/en/download/>.  Hope this helps
> somebody else besides me!
>
> Alex
>
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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[G Mann]

With a very limited geek skill, I found that Java wasn't getting validation
of the license source for the EPC site...[if I'm understanding what I saw
written in "geekese"]
Anyway, it's above my pay grade. someone please let us know if it ever
works again. Sounds like a useful tool in keeping our MBZ on the street and
out of the dust bin.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM,  wrote:

> The EPC has been having issues all week. The bad thing is when it is down
> it is down for everyone, including MB dealers. They really hate it.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
>
> -Original Message-
> From: G Mann 
> Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:50:41
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
>
> I have Java 6, latest version, still EPC doesn't load or open.  It does
> give
> me a courteous message stating it won't open however.. how kind.
>
> Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard copy book
> that you could look at?   Ahh, the good old days.  Funny thing... that
> book never "crashed" and I could carry it to the car and lay it on the
> fender while sorting out what went to what, even if the electricity went
> out.
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Alex Chamberlain
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain
> >  wrote:
> > > Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately?
> > ...
> > > I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine
> > > since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to
> > > that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a
> > > *newer* version of Java instead?
> > >
> >
> > I think I just figured it out, and my guess was right.  Works fine on
> > another XP SP3 machine with Java Version 6 Update 26 build
> > 1.6.0_26-b03 (per the About Java box in the Java control panel).  I
> > don't have the first machine in front of me, but I know it's got an
> > older Java on it, maybe even Version 5.
> >
> > Summary: If the EPC isn't working, try updating Java to the latest
> > version at <http://www.java.com/en/download/>.  Hope this helps
> > somebody else besides me!
> >
> > Alex
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[Fmiser]

> G Mann wrote:

> Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard
> copy book that you could look at?   Ahh, the good old
> days.  Funny thing... that book never "crashed" and I could
> carry it to the car and lay it on the fender while sorting out
> what went to what, even if the electricity went out.

But what a pain to copy!

And really tough to look at it from 15,000 miles away.

And if the text I'm looking for is not in the index, searching
for one word is a very, very, slow long process.

We* are spoiled.  We won't be happy with either the old or the
new.  They each have disadvantages and we will complain when
using either one.

*"We" meaning collectively us humans.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[G Mann]

Points well made and taken Philip.  Having said that, when the chips are
down, I'll open the case in the trunk, take out the hard copy Maint. manual
and the Illustrated Parts Manual  [even if it's out of date] and fix the
problem at the side of the road or know why I can't.  All the fancy
electronic whiz bang devices are only a single solar flair from failure.
Drop your beloved laptop or IPhone off the back of a truck and then drop the
tattered hard copy manual off the same truck... pick them both up and use
them.  Which one survived?

Copy??... try this, Buy a hard copy, remove the spine so it becomes loose
leaf, punch the pages for a 5 hole binder and then remove the desired pages,
make copies, replace the originals in the binder, take the copies to the car
and do the work.  Grease spots? no prob.. make new copies from the
"master"... IPC pictures to look at while you are removing the problem
assembly?  No problem..

You will be amazed at how helpful it is when the assembly picture is in
front of you in hard copy.

Ok... so I give up call up the pages on your laptop after you fight MBZ
system that doesn't work print the pages and use them. we'll call it
a "win".

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > G Mann wrote:
>
> > Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard
> > copy book that you could look at?   Ahh, the good old
> > days.  Funny thing... that book never "crashed" and I could
> > carry it to the car and lay it on the fender while sorting out
> > what went to what, even if the electricity went out.
>
> But what a pain to copy!
>
> And really tough to look at it from 15,000 miles away.
>
> And if the text I'm looking for is not in the index, searching
> for one word is a very, very, slow long process.
>
> We* are spoiled.  We won't be happy with either the old or the
> new.  They each have disadvantages and we will complain when
> using either one.
>
> *"We" meaning collectively us humans.
>
> --   Philip
>
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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[Fmiser]

> G Mann wrote:

> Points well made and taken Philip.  Having said that, when the
> chips are down, I'll open the case in the trunk, take out the
> hard copy Maint. manual and the Illustrated Parts Manual
> [even if it's out of date] and fix the problem at the side of
> the road or know why I can't.

Oh, I don't think the paper manual is bad - just that I am now
unhappy with both paper and electronic!  Historically I have
preferred paper manuals.  But I have come to really like the
advantages of the PDFs.  *sigh*  I don't like PDFs, I don't like
paper.

> Copy??... try this, Buy a hard copy, remove the spine so it
> becomes loose leaf, punch the pages for a 5 hole binder and
> then remove the desired pages, make copies, replace the
> originals in the binder,

Hehe.  And how will you make that copy without the help of
electronics?

Electronically, I have a _complete_ copy on CD to use in other
computers, a copy on the laptop, a copy on the desktop, and I
can email you a page with my notes on it. :)

> Ok... so I give up call up the pages on your laptop after
> you fight MBZ system that doesn't work print the pages and
> use them. we'll call it a "win".

Well, I don't use the silly MB interface.

I wonder if I could make an iPad/iPhone/Android app that would
have the full manual and interface

--   Philip


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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[G Mann]

> There you go... progress in a box plus a business opportunity.
>

Grant...


> I wonder if I could make an iPad/iPhone/Android app that would
> have the full manual and interface
>
> --   Philip
>
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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[Larry]

I use this link to access it - just checked and it works:
http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/

Once the above loads, there is a link in the left margin to launch Star 
Tek...


Good luck -
LarryT
91 300D

-Original Message- 
From: Alex Chamberlain

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately?
After logging in I click the link that says "Launch EPC-Net
Online"---then almost immediately I get a small box saying "Unable to
launch EPC" and under that a window saying "Requested
http://epc-prod.startekinfo.com/EPC-net/servlets/epc.jar.  Failed to
load resource."

I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine
since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to
that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a
*newer* version of Java instead?

I'm running XP SP3, if that gives anyone any ideas.  (Other than that
I should try doing this in Linux.)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

[G Mann]

Well,,, thank you.

It finally did work and I was able to sign on and look at "stuff".
Now to school myself to actually be able to navigate through the rather
irritating layout to find parts that are useful.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Larry  wrote:

> I use this link to access it - just checked and it works:
> http://epc.startekinfo.com/**epc/ <http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/>
>
> Once the above loads, there is a link in the left margin to launch Star
> Tek...
>
> Good luck -
> LarryT
> 91 300D
>
> -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:27 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
>
> Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately?
> After logging in I click the link that says "Launch EPC-Net
> Online"---then almost immediately I get a small box saying "Unable to
> launch EPC" and under that a window saying "Requested
> http://epc-prod.startekinfo.**com/EPC-net/servlets/epc.jar<http://epc-prod.startekinfo.com/EPC-net/servlets/epc.jar>.
>  Failed to
> load resource."
>
> I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine
> since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to
> that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a
> *newer* version of Java instead?
>
> I'm running XP SP3, if that gives anyone any ideas.  (Other than that
> I should try doing this in Linux.)
>
> Alex
>
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