Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Great - Thanks Manfred. I'll be back your way in a few weeks. Bill -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Bill, I will have to look but I think the ones on the old junker that I have out back are still good. Maybe not great but good. let you know tomorrow. If I have it just come by and get it the next time you are in the area. On the memory, make sure it is the right kind and speed. Manfred Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:45:23 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out You guys went way past my level some time ago, but thought I would add an update. I decided to get new 2 x 1Gb [Samsung, as it turned out] memory modules. I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. So much for new stuff [never had a problem with used memory] - I started the computer, and my handheld would not interface, then my Outlook lost it's Inbox. I ran a memory scan and was getting more than 50% errors with the new modules. Pulled them out and back to 100% pass on the old modules. I'll get new new memory and try once more. Past assistance appreciated. On topic piece: While I was driving home from Gainesville I lost instrumentation. Turns out my RF corner light/blinker [1981 300SD] had fallen out on the road somewhere. That was a downer. I'd been having some electrical issues with front and rear R parking lights for a few weeks. Anyone with a replacement available I am in the market, either for $ or I will trade a pair of fog lights for the same vehicle. I ordered them when I wanted to replace a cracked on, then never even opened the package [used, but no info on the promised functionality]. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Bit off topic, but I was surfing the archives on this to try to re- animate the cheapo server I got at auction. $10 for a nice winxp pro with raid and loaded up on hardwares. Supposed to have wiped drives, but they only pulled the power cord to the drive, so it showed no OS/ Drive. The thing was in perfect condition but for needing the darn password. Found some help online for hacking that and now I have access to all their AR/AP data and project/client files. Maybe I post on wikileaks? Probably just figure out how to make it a media server with those terabyte raid drives clay Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 24, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Smith, Todd wrote: Allan, /3GB switch caused a lot of problems on a Citrix server one time since the Citrix sessions still use Kernel process space and it is very easy to run out especially with /3GB and no more sessions can be created even though there is plenty of RAM available. A consultant told us that this was the best way to handle this server and of course management said to do it. After that, I spend a fair amount time learning all of the issues involving memory and Citrix so that I could advise management on what really worked. Todd Further complicated because the 32-bit Windows splits the memory into a user space and a kernel space. The user space is available to applications and the kernel space is used by Windows itself and device drivers. By default up to 2GB will be allocated to user space. If you put the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file, you change that to allow 3GB to be available to user applications. This is often done with single-purpose machines (servers) that do little else but run one piece of software, such as SQL Server, in order to give more RAM to the software. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
There is a unix boot program you can put on a CD to boot from, it will let you get at passwords and such and change them on winders boxes. But I suppose you did something similar. --R On 2/27/2011 5:22 PM, redghost wrote: Bit off topic, but I was surfing the archives on this to try to re-animate the cheapo server I got at auction. $10 for a nice winxp pro with raid and loaded up on hardwares. Supposed to have wiped drives, but they only pulled the power cord to the drive, so it showed no OS/Drive. The thing was in perfect condition but for needing the darn password. Found some help online for hacking that and now I have access to all their AR/AP data and project/client files. Maybe I post on wikileaks? Probably just figure out how to make it a media server with those terabyte raid drives clay Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 24, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Smith, Todd wrote: Allan, /3GB switch caused a lot of problems on a Citrix server one time since the Citrix sessions still use Kernel process space and it is very easy to run out especially with /3GB and no more sessions can be created even though there is plenty of RAM available. A consultant told us that this was the best way to handle this server and of course management said to do it. After that, I spend a fair amount time learning all of the issues involving memory and Citrix so that I could advise management on what really worked. Todd Further complicated because the 32-bit Windows splits the memory into a user space and a kernel space. The user space is available to applications and the kernel space is used by Windows itself and device drivers. By default up to 2GB will be allocated to user space. If you put the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file, you change that to allow 3GB to be available to user applications. This is often done with single-purpose machines (servers) that do little else but run one piece of software, such as SQL Server, in order to give more RAM to the software. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Yeah didn't they tell you it might work with 8GB? Don't bother with more than 4... -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:37:32 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 020801cbd616$85b0eb60$9112c220$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Really, I had looked at their max suggestion [which was 2x the manufactures max] with a high $ cost, then got into seeing a bunch of options and paid almost as much for new memory elsewhere anyway. If I end up with a refund rather than a replacement I will go with Crucial. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:35 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out eBay memory? I'd warned against it... Crucial is the only place I buy RAM from. A little more expensive than Crazy Larry's House of RAM but I have zero patience for mucking around with the wrong stuff. If Crucial's stuff doesn't work they'll make it so it does... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
yes. burned to disk. Turned out there was not a DVD optical but CD, had to reburn to CD instead and then it all worked fine Clay On Feb 27, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: There is a unix boot program you can put on a CD to boot from, it will let you get at passwords and such and change them on winders boxes. But I suppose you did something similar. --R On 2/27/2011 5:22 PM, redghost wrote: Bit off topic, but I was surfing the archives on this to try to re- animate the cheapo server I got at auction. $10 for a nice winxp pro with raid and loaded up on hardwares. Supposed to have wiped drives, but they only pulled the power cord to the drive, so it showed no OS/Drive. The thing was in perfect condition but for needing the darn password. Found some help online for hacking that and now I have access to all their AR/AP data and project/client files. Maybe I post on wikileaks? Probably just figure out how to make it a media server with those terabyte raid drives clay Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 24, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Smith, Todd wrote: Allan, /3GB switch caused a lot of problems on a Citrix server one time since the Citrix sessions still use Kernel process space and it is very easy to run out especially with /3GB and no more sessions can be created even though there is plenty of RAM available. A consultant told us that this was the best way to handle this server and of course management said to do it. After that, I spend a fair amount time learning all of the issues involving memory and Citrix so that I could advise management on what really worked. Todd Further complicated because the 32-bit Windows splits the memory into a user space and a kernel space. The user space is available to applications and the kernel space is used by Windows itself and device drivers. By default up to 2GB will be allocated to user space. If you put the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file, you change that to allow 3GB to be available to user applications. This is often done with single-purpose machines (servers) that do little else but run one piece of software, such as SQL Server, in order to give more RAM to the software. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
You guys went way past my level some time ago, but thought I would add an update. I decided to get new 2 x 1Gb [Samsung, as it turned out] memory modules. I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. So much for new stuff [never had a problem with used memory] - I started the computer, and my handheld would not interface, then my Outlook lost it's Inbox. I ran a memory scan and was getting more than 50% errors with the new modules. Pulled them out and back to 100% pass on the old modules. I'll get new new memory and try once more. Past assistance appreciated. On topic piece: While I was driving home from Gainesville I lost instrumentation. Turns out my RF corner light/blinker [1981 300SD] had fallen out on the road somewhere. That was a downer. I'd been having some electrical issues with front and rear R parking lights for a few weeks. Anyone with a replacement available I am in the market, either for $ or I will trade a pair of fog lights for the same vehicle. I ordered them when I wanted to replace a cracked on, then never even opened the package [used, but no info on the promised functionality]. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:52 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out We make extensive use of the 3GB switch, video editors are pretty much single use machines... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:10:23 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 1298581823.15628.1423482...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:41 -0500, Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org wrote: Sorry that I am a little slow to this thread, it has probably been already answered but there is so few questions that I can answer on here that I felt that I couldn't pass it up. Any 32-bit microprocessor and operating system has a maximum address space of exactly 4096MB (4GB). This address space has to include video memory, any memory-mapped for ROM caches or memory exclusions for IO devices. It is possible to install 4GB of RAM but since the address space is taken up by other hardware all of the RAM is not accessible. It is different for every computer depending on the equipment installed but 3.25 to 3.5GB is the normal maximum RAM that the OS will see. I have read of a dual video card gamer rig that wouldn't see any more then 2.75GB but he had a lot of video memory and other equipment that took away from the address space. Further complicated because the 32-bit Windows splits the memory into a user space and a kernel space. The user space is available to applications and the kernel space is used by Windows itself and device drivers. By default up to 2GB will be allocated to user space. If you put the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file, you change that to allow 3GB to be available to user applications. This is often done with single-purpose machines (servers) that do little else but run one piece of software, such as SQL Server, in order to give more RAM to the software. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
I am confused -- do you not remember getting your stem cells harvested, or did they mail you memories of it, or did you delete them and replace them with something more pleasant? I would wonder about that facility and if you were subject to some sort of rogue gummint testing or something. --R On 2/26/2011 10:45 AM, Bill Ringgold wrote: I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
eBay memory? I'd warned against it... Crucial is the only place I buy RAM from. A little more expensive than Crazy Larry's House of RAM but I have zero patience for mucking around with the wrong stuff. If Crucial's stuff doesn't work they'll make it so it does... -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:45:23 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 00bb01cbd5cc$2f020fa0$8d062ee0$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 You guys went way past my level some time ago, but thought I would add an update. I decided to get new 2 x 1Gb [Samsung, as it turned out] memory modules. I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. So much for new stuff [never had a problem with used memory] - I started the computer, and my handheld would not interface, then my Outlook lost it's Inbox. I ran a memory scan and was getting more than 50% errors with the new modules. Pulled them out and back to 100% pass on the old modules. I'll get new new memory and try once more. Past assistance appreciated. On topic piece: While I was driving home from Gainesville I lost instrumentation. Turns out my RF corner light/blinker [1981 300SD] had fallen out on the road somewhere. That was a downer. I'd been having some electrical issues with front and rear R parking lights for a few weeks. Anyone with a replacement available I am in the market, either for $ or I will trade a pair of fog lights for the same vehicle. I ordered them when I wanted to replace a cracked on, then never even opened the package [used, but no info on the promised functionality]. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
What Curt said - stick with Crucial for memory. They seem to always have a reasonable price for good memory. I don't even shop for other quotes anymore -- On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: eBay memory? I'd warned against it... Crucial is the only place I buy RAM from. A little more expensive than Crazy Larry's House of RAM but I have zero patience for mucking around with the wrong stuff. If Crucial's stuff doesn't work they'll make it so it does... -Curt -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
I buy OCZ brand, lifetime no-hassle waranty on any defect, even normal degredation. Small bit more expensive, but worth the peace of mind. Walt On Feb 26, 2011 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: eBay memory? I'd warned against it... Crucial is the only place I buy RAM from. A little more expensive than Crazy Larry's House of RAM but I have zero patience for mucking around with the wrong stuff. If Crucial's stuff doesn't work they'll make it so it does... -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:45:23 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 00bb01cbd5cc$2f020fa0$8d062ee0$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 You guys went way past my level some time ago, but thought I would add an update. I decided to get new 2 x 1Gb [Samsung, as it turned out] memory modules. I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. So much for new stuff [never had a problem with used memory] - I started the computer, and my handheld would not interface, then my Outlook lost it's Inbox. I ran a memory scan and was getting more than 50% errors with the new modules. Pulled them out and back to 100% pass on the old modules. I'll get new new memory and try once more. Past assistance appreciated. On topic piece: While I was driving home from Gainesville I lost instrumentation. Turns out my RF corner light/blinker [1981 300SD] had fallen out on the road somewhere. That was a downer. I'd been having some electrical issues with front and rear R parking lights for a few weeks. Anyone with a replacement available I am in the market, either for $ or I will trade a pair of fog lights for the same vehicle. I ordered them when I wanted to replace a cracked on, then never even opened the package [used, but no info on the promised functionality]. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Rich, you must listen to what I mean and not what would be a literal of what I say. I am known to blend and segue without proper signals. Stem cell study [one of about 30 going on in the US at the moment] is to check on effective dosages for re-growth of cardiac vessels in folks with heart damage. If someone makes Total Recall available I might talk to them. My new memory had some big holes in it, though. I deserve better memories than that. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out I am confused -- do you not remember getting your stem cells harvested, or did they mail you memories of it, or did you delete them and replace them with something more pleasant? I would wonder about that facility and if you were subject to some sort of rogue gummint testing or something. --R On 2/26/2011 10:45 AM, Bill Ringgold wrote: I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
If it is the signals that are causing a problem you need the AFDB http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ That stem cell thing sounds pretty cool (aside from the underlying issue) -- let us know how that goes. --R (say what you mean, mean what you say, hey hey) On 2/26/2011 5:02 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Rich, you must listen to what I mean and not what would be a literal of what I say. I am known to blend and segue without proper signals. Stem cell study [one of about 30 going on in the US at the moment] is to check on effective dosages for re-growth of cardiac vessels in folks with heart damage. If someone makes Total Recall available I might talk to them. My new memory had some big holes in it, though. I deserve better memories than that. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out I am confused -- do you not remember getting your stem cells harvested, or did they mail you memories of it, or did you delete them and replace them with something more pleasant? I would wonder about that facility and if you were subject to some sort of rogue gummint testing or something. --R On 2/26/2011 10:45 AM, Bill Ringgold wrote: I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
I might just get one of those to wear in when I go for the main event in a few weeks, just in case they are secretly controlling my mind to make me let someone stick what is in effect a 3 foot long flexible needle into my heart. That can't be a natural desire or act. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out If it is the signals that are causing a problem you need the AFDB http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ That stem cell thing sounds pretty cool (aside from the underlying issue) -- let us know how that goes. --R (say what you mean, mean what you say, hey hey) On 2/26/2011 5:02 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Rich, you must listen to what I mean and not what would be a literal of what I say. I am known to blend and segue without proper signals. Stem cell study [one of about 30 going on in the US at the moment] is to check on effective dosages for re-growth of cardiac vessels in folks with heart damage. If someone makes Total Recall available I might talk to them. My new memory had some big holes in it, though. I deserve better memories than that. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out I am confused -- do you not remember getting your stem cells harvested, or did they mail you memories of it, or did you delete them and replace them with something more pleasant? I would wonder about that facility and if you were subject to some sort of rogue gummint testing or something. --R On 2/26/2011 10:45 AM, Bill Ringgold wrote: I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Really, I had looked at their max suggestion [which was 2x the manufactures max] with a high $ cost, then got into seeing a bunch of options and paid almost as much for new memory elsewhere anyway. If I end up with a refund rather than a replacement I will go with Crucial. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:35 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out eBay memory? I'd warned against it... Crucial is the only place I buy RAM from. A little more expensive than Crazy Larry's House of RAM but I have zero patience for mucking around with the wrong stuff. If Crucial's stuff doesn't work they'll make it so it does... -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:45:23 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 00bb01cbd5cc$2f020fa0$8d062ee0$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 You guys went way past my level some time ago, but thought I would add an update. I decided to get new 2 x 1Gb [Samsung, as it turned out] memory modules. I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. So much for new stuff [never had a problem with used memory] - I started the computer, and my handheld would not interface, then my Outlook lost it's Inbox. I ran a memory scan and was getting more than 50% errors with the new modules. Pulled them out and back to 100% pass on the old modules. I'll get new new memory and try once more. Past assistance appreciated. On topic piece: While I was driving home from Gainesville I lost instrumentation. Turns out my RF corner light/blinker [1981 300SD] had fallen out on the road somewhere. That was a downer. I'd been having some electrical issues with front and rear R parking lights for a few weeks. Anyone with a replacement available I am in the market, either for $ or I will trade a pair of fog lights for the same vehicle. I ordered them when I wanted to replace a cracked on, then never even opened the package [used, but no info on the promised functionality]. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bill, I will have to look but I think the ones on the old junker that I have out back are still good. Maybe not great but good. let you know tomorrow. If I have it just come by and get it the next time you are in the area. On the memory, make sure it is the right kind and speed. Manfred Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:45:23 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out You guys went way past my level some time ago, but thought I would add an update. I decided to get new 2 x 1Gb [Samsung, as it turned out] memory modules. I just got back from 4 days away [ending in 2 days of baseline testing for a cardiac stem cell harvest and injection trial] and my new memory was here when I returned. So much for new stuff [never had a problem with used memory] - I started the computer, and my handheld would not interface, then my Outlook lost it's Inbox. I ran a memory scan and was getting more than 50% errors with the new modules. Pulled them out and back to 100% pass on the old modules. I'll get new new memory and try once more. Past assistance appreciated. On topic piece: While I was driving home from Gainesville I lost instrumentation. Turns out my RF corner light/blinker [1981 300SD] had fallen out on the road somewhere. That was a downer. I'd been having some electrical issues with front and rear R parking lights for a few weeks. Anyone with a replacement available I am in the market, either for $ or I will trade a pair of fog lights for the same vehicle. I ordered them when I wanted to replace a cracked on, then never even opened the package [used, but no info on the promised functionality]. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Sorry that I am a little slow to this thread, it has probably been already answered but there is so few questions that I can answer on here that I felt that I couldn't pass it up. Any 32-bit microprocessor and operating system has a maximum address space of exactly 4096MB (4GB). This address space has to include video memory, any memory-mapped for ROM caches or memory exclusions for IO devices. It is possible to install 4GB of RAM but since the address space is taken up by other hardware all of the RAM is not accessible. It is different for every computer depending on the equipment installed but 3.25 to 3.5GB is the normal maximum RAM that the OS will see. I have read of a dual video card gamer rig that wouldn't see any more then 2.75GB but he had a lot of video memory and other equipment that took away from the address space. Physical Address Extension (PAE) creates a 36-bit address space and it moves all of the video memory and other hardware IO spaces above the 4GB mark so that everything below 4GB can be used for RAM. 32-bit Microsoft OS will allow you to access all 4GB of RAM if PAE is turned on and 4GB of RAM is installed. Many of the 32-bit MS server OS can access more then 4GB but only via specially written software of which SQL Server was probably the vast majority. A little-known fact, that Intel systems with Execute Disable (XD) in the system BIOS have PAE capabilities since XD is implemented by a superset of PAE. If you turn on XD in the BIOS then PAE is implicitly turned on whether it says or not. 64-bit systems have very large address space and unless you are building some huge monolithic system are unlikely to approach the limit of the RAM that you can install. 64-bit OS require 64 bit microprocessors and generally plenty of RAM and normally say 64-bit in the description somewhere. You can run 32-bit software in a 64-bit software but not vice-versa. More then you ever wanted to know about address spaces I am sure. :) Todd Smith -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 09:53 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out I believe that the windows XP 32 bit can address 3.5 gigs of ram -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 6:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Bill Ringgold wrote: Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. How man GB can Winblows XP actually use, 3, 4? Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:41 -0500, Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org wrote: Sorry that I am a little slow to this thread, it has probably been already answered but there is so few questions that I can answer on here that I felt that I couldn't pass it up. Any 32-bit microprocessor and operating system has a maximum address space of exactly 4096MB (4GB). This address space has to include video memory, any memory-mapped for ROM caches or memory exclusions for IO devices. It is possible to install 4GB of RAM but since the address space is taken up by other hardware all of the RAM is not accessible. It is different for every computer depending on the equipment installed but 3.25 to 3.5GB is the normal maximum RAM that the OS will see. I have read of a dual video card gamer rig that wouldn't see any more then 2.75GB but he had a lot of video memory and other equipment that took away from the address space. Further complicated because the 32-bit Windows splits the memory into a user space and a kernel space. The user space is available to applications and the kernel space is used by Windows itself and device drivers. By default up to 2GB will be allocated to user space. If you put the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file, you change that to allow 3GB to be available to user applications. This is often done with single-purpose machines (servers) that do little else but run one piece of software, such as SQL Server, in order to give more RAM to the software. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Allan, /3GB switch caused a lot of problems on a Citrix server one time since the Citrix sessions still use Kernel process space and it is very easy to run out especially with /3GB and no more sessions can be created even though there is plenty of RAM available. A consultant told us that this was the best way to handle this server and of course management said to do it. After that, I spend a fair amount time learning all of the issues involving memory and Citrix so that I could advise management on what really worked. Todd Further complicated because the 32-bit Windows splits the memory into a user space and a kernel space. The user space is available to applications and the kernel space is used by Windows itself and device drivers. By default up to 2GB will be allocated to user space. If you put the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file, you change that to allow 3GB to be available to user applications. This is often done with single-purpose machines (servers) that do little else but run one piece of software, such as SQL Server, in order to give more RAM to the software. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
We make extensive use of the 3GB switch, video editors are pretty much single use machines... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:10:23 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 1298581823.15628.1423482...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:41 -0500, Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org wrote: Sorry that I am a little slow to this thread, it has probably been already answered but there is so few questions that I can answer on here that I felt that I couldn't pass it up. Any 32-bit microprocessor and operating system has a maximum address space of exactly 4096MB (4GB). This address space has to include video memory, any memory-mapped for ROM caches or memory exclusions for IO devices. It is possible to install 4GB of RAM but since the address space is taken up by other hardware all of the RAM is not accessible. It is different for every computer depending on the equipment installed but 3.25 to 3.5GB is the normal maximum RAM that the OS will see. I have read of a dual video card gamer rig that wouldn't see any more then 2.75GB but he had a lot of video memory and other equipment that took away from the address space. Further complicated because the 32-bit Windows splits the memory into a user space and a kernel space. The user space is available to applications and the kernel space is used by Windows itself and device drivers. By default up to 2GB will be allocated to user space. If you put the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file, you change that to allow 3GB to be available to user applications. This is often done with single-purpose machines (servers) that do little else but run one piece of software, such as SQL Server, in order to give more RAM to the software. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
300SD Air Cleaner Fix. Does this require bracing welded to the factory bracket, or a rubber donut mounted to the side of the air cleaner in gap between air cleaner and valve cover? -Max From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:07:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to listen while you are away? It sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able to beat it. I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like pause? Or a setting for max record time before going idle? Best, Tim Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
The bracket is not up to the task, at least the ones I have replaced on the SD. The most recent one I got from our esteemed lister/supplier was cheap chinee crap but can probably be fixed with some stout metal. I think the problem is sort of a design issue along with a marginal part (per the design) The air cleaner is pretty heavy and sits cantilevered out quite a ways on the bracket, and the engine, and hence AC shakes quite a bit, and that bending moment/flexing with that weight hanging out there just destroys a poorly-designed/manufactured part and general arrangement. --R On 2/22/2011 12:35 PM, Max Dillon wrote: 300SD Air Cleaner Fix. Does this require bracing welded to the factory bracket, or a rubber donut mounted to the side of the air cleaner in gap between air cleaner and valve cover? -Max From: Bill Ringgoldbillr32...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:07:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to listen while you are away? It sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able to beat it. I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like pause? Or a setting for max record time before going idle? Best, Tim Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, Bill Ringgoldbillr32...@comcast.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
So when are you going to buy a welder? -Max From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 1:01:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out The bracket is not up to the task, at least the ones I have replaced on the SD. The most recent one I got from our esteemed lister/supplier was cheap chinee crap but can probably be fixed with some stout metal. I think the problem is sort of a design issue along with a marginal part (per the design) The air cleaner is pretty heavy and sits cantilevered out quite a ways on the bracket, and the engine, and hence AC shakes quite a bit, and that bending moment/flexing with that weight hanging out there just destroys a poorly-designed/manufactured part and general arrangement. --R On 2/22/2011 12:35 PM, Max Dillon wrote: 300SD Air Cleaner Fix. Does this require bracing welded to the factory bracket, or a rubber donut mounted to the side of the air cleaner in gap between air cleaner and valve cover? -Max From: Bill Ringgoldbillr32...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:07:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to listen while you are away? It sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able to beat it. I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like pause? Or a setting for max record time before going idle? Best, Tim Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, Bill Ringgoldbillr32...@comcast.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
There is no economy in buying cheap RAM, you'll be buying the proper stuff again later or you'll get a new computer. Go to Crucial.com and plug in what your computer is and they'll get you the right stuff the first time at a reasonable price. -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:27:05 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 000301cbd166$73dd1850$5b9748f0$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dan, I have just made that change [I had it at 4000, now at 6500]. Hopefully that will help. With the mydefrag program running that Walt suggested [thanks again Walt] it does start and run faster. I tried switching the memory chips around, but it is still as the manual says, running a matched pair in 1 and 3 [2 x 256 MB] and 2 and 4 [2 x 1 GB]. That didn't do anything. Once it starts working it is fine, but it is that 2 minute wait for it to process the first statement after a pause that is driving me nuts. The manual suggests a matched set of 2 x 2GB as optimal, but I'll have to be a lot more frustrated before I spend that amount of $. I am reminded of a friend who had a then new 286 when we bought our first laptop: That is entirely too easy to pick up and throw against the wall. I may have to move my sledge hammer out to the back porch. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I had not thought of that, but if it is trying to read the entire document each time it would indeed take awhile. It actually works too quickly once it's running to be able to do that, but perhaps that is part of the problem when I wake it up after a brief pause. I'm still having a bit of an issue with that, but it is much faster and less of a problem after having made the adjustments suggested by the group. Dragon NaturallySpeaking is typing this for me without a problem, and I have two open files in Word also (the full 180 page manuscript and a page of notes). Glancing over the tools menu and the options menu I think the programs reading of my writing is only done on command, then word patterns are matched to previous writings. At any rate, I think the bulk of my problem is greatly eased and now something I can live with. Wish I could get my 300SD in as good a shape, though really I have no complaints about the old girl. Bill R. 1981 300SD @325K miles you-Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 10:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out As someone pointed out, a huge Word document will slow the system down as well. If that's a possible issue, dictate to new, small docs, then merge or copy the text to the master document after the dictation session. Dragon will read a document, looking for word patterns to understand your speach better - maybe it's reading the entire doc every time you dictate now? I don't understand the detailed workings of that feature yet. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.netwrote: My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:23 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out There is no economy in buying cheap RAM, you'll be buying the proper stuff again later or you'll get a new computer. Go to Crucial.com and plug in what your computer is and they'll get you the right stuff the first time at a reasonable price. -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:27:05 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 000301cbd166$73dd1850$5b9748f0$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dan, I have just made that change [I had it at 4000, now at 6500]. Hopefully that will help. With the mydefrag program running that Walt suggested [thanks again Walt] it does start and run faster. I tried switching the memory chips around, but it is still as the manual says, running a matched pair in 1 and 3 [2 x 256 MB] and 2 and 4 [2 x 1 GB]. That didn't do anything. Once it starts working it is fine, but it is that 2 minute wait for it to process the first statement after a pause that is driving me nuts. The manual suggests a matched set of 2 x 2GB as optimal, but I'll have to be a lot more frustrated before I spend that amount of $. I am reminded of a friend who had a then new 286 when we bought our first laptop: That is entirely too easy to pick up and throw against the wall. I may have to move my sledge hammer out to the back porch. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Unless you are using a 64 bit version of windows, more than 3gb is of limited utility. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:12, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:23 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out There is no economy in buying cheap RAM, you'll be buying the proper stuff again later or you'll get a new computer. Go to Crucial.com and plug in what your computer is and they'll get you the right stuff the first time at a reasonable price. -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:27:05 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 000301cbd166$73dd1850$5b9748f0$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dan, I have just made that change [I had it at 4000, now at 6500]. Hopefully that will help. With the mydefrag program running that Walt suggested [thanks again Walt] it does start and run faster. I tried switching the memory chips around, but it is still as the manual says, running a matched pair in 1 and 3 [2 x 256 MB] and 2 and 4 [2 x 1 GB]. That didn't do anything. Once it starts working it is fine, but it is that 2 minute wait for it to process the first statement after a pause that is driving me nuts. The manual suggests a matched set of 2 x 2GB as optimal, but I'll have to be a lot more frustrated before I spend that amount of $. I am reminded of a friend who had a then new 286 when we bought our first laptop: That is entirely too easy to pick up and throw against the wall. I may have to move my sledge hammer out to the back porch. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is what I had been thinking [and one reason I stopped at 2.5GB][besides the cost], but the crucial.com analysis of my Dell 5100C says that more memory will be useful for a couple of reasons, though not fully utilized without the 64 bit version. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 9:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Unless you are using a 64 bit version of windows, more than 3gb is of limited utility. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:12, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:23 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out There is no economy in buying cheap RAM, you'll be buying the proper stuff again later or you'll get a new computer. Go to Crucial.com and plug in what your computer is and they'll get you the right stuff the first time at a reasonable price. -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:27:05 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 000301cbd166$73dd1850$5b9748f0$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dan, I have just made that change [I had it at 4000, now at 6500]. Hopefully that will help. With the mydefrag program running that Walt suggested [thanks again Walt] it does start and run faster. I tried switching the memory chips around, but it is still as the manual says, running a matched pair in 1 and 3 [2 x 256 MB] and 2 and 4 [2 x 1 GB]. That didn't do anything. Once it starts working it is fine, but it is that 2 minute wait for it to process the first statement after a pause that is driving me nuts. The manual suggests a matched set of 2 x 2GB as optimal, but I'll have to be a lot more frustrated before I spend that amount of $. I am reminded of a friend who had a then new 286 when we bought our first laptop: That is entirely too easy to pick up and throw against the wall. I may have to move my sledge hammer out to the back porch. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Bill Ringgold wrote: Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. How man GB can Winblows XP actually use, 3, 4? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I believe that the windows XP 32 bit can address 3.5 gigs of ram -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 6:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Bill Ringgold wrote: Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. How man GB can Winblows XP actually use, 3, 4? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Correct, 32 bit machines, or 64 bit machines running a 32 bit OS, can't address past 3.5ish gigabytes, due to the limitations of the 32 bit address space. Walt On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Douglas jgi...@comcast.net wrote: I believe that the windows XP 32 bit can address 3.5 gigs of ram -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 6:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Bill Ringgold wrote: Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. How man GB can Winblows XP actually use, 3, 4? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think some here have suggested 3 is about max for a 32 bit program. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 9:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Bill Ringgold wrote: Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. How man GB can Winblows XP actually use, 3, 4? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Windows XP 32 bit can only use 3GB of RAM, it can't conceive of more so there isn't a whole lot of point in having it EXCEPT, I've seen lots of cases where the motherboard was more comfortable having all the RAM match. Specifically we had a system certified for video editing years ago that absolutely required 4x 1GB sticks otherwise it would blue screen. Weird but true. -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:12:00 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 001201cbd1d1$4fa87040$eef950c0$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch wrote: How man GB can Winblows XP actually use, 3, 4? According to MS 4 GB. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have head stranger things than a computer with confidence issues. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 11:37 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Windows XP 32 bit can only use 3GB of RAM, it can't conceive of more so there isn't a whole lot of point in having it EXCEPT, I've seen lots of cases where the motherboard was more comfortable having all the RAM match. Specifically we had a system certified for video editing years ago that absolutely required 4x 1GB sticks otherwise it would blue screen. Weird but true. -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:12:00 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 001201cbd1d1$4fa87040$eef950c0$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Curt. I checked it out and they suggest 4 2GB modules, though my manual says the system will only support 4GB total RAM. I will probably do the 2 1GB upgrades to 4GB total, but probably won't try the possibly compatible 8GB upgrade - too much $ for me anyway, especially now with the tweaks making what I have work so much better. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
On a Windoze XP machine, you should be running a fixed page (swap) file of 2.5x your RAM size. By setting it to a fixed size you will cut down significantly on page swaps. Otherwise, everything else sounds OK. Dan --- On Sat, 2/19/11, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 9:42 PM At the moment the HD is 32% free, freshly defragged. The machine has an 80 GB SATA HD with a 50 GB Windows partition and a 30DB Ubuntu partition. I'll do the checks you suggested and try out the dictation in the morning. Thanks - Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
If the onboard video uses system ram, you can get funky available memory numbers like that. You need multiple cores and/or multiple processors for speech recognition to work smoothly. Windows is a resource hog, but pales in comparison to Dragon. -Dave Walton On Feb 19, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: What Rich said and add more memory. 2.49 gig of ram just doesn't sound right. Most computers of that vintage shipped with 512mb of ram and were upgradeable to 2gb of ram. Rick Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:49:17 -0500 From: richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Is your hard drive near capacity? It might not have enough swap space. Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr, you can see what apps are using resources (Processes), and you can see memory usage (Performance). It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup by doing Start -- Run -- then type msconfig and hit enter. You can go in and uncheck startup apps, some of which might be completely unneeded but take up resources. --R On 2/19/2011 7:41 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: On a Windoze XP machine, you should be running a fixed page (swap) file of 2.5x your RAM size. By setting it to a fixed size you will cut down significantly on page swaps. Also create the swap file on a clean partition so it won't be fragmented right away. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Set the PC to no swap file, defrag, then create a fixed size swap file, 2.5X the memory (as stated earlier). This results in a clean, not fragmented swap file, that will stay that way. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: On a Windoze XP machine, you should be running a fixed page (swap) file of 2.5x your RAM size. By setting it to a fixed size you will cut down significantly on page swaps. Also create the swap file on a clean partition so it won't be fragmented right away. Allan -- 1983 300D -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: Set the PC to no swap file, defrag, then create a fixed size swap file, 2.5X the memory (as stated earlier). This results in a clean, not fragmented swap file, that will stay that way. It would if XP defrag condensed the files instead of leaving spaces between them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's still much better than not having defragged before setting the swap file. Yes - a clean partition is best, if you have room for one. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK Don wrote: Set the PC to no swap file, defrag, then create a fixed size swap file, 2.5X the memory (as stated earlier). This results in a clean, not fragmented swap file, that will stay that way. It would if XP defrag condensed the files instead of leaving spaces between them. ___ -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to listen while you are away? It sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able to beat it. I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like pause? Or a setting for max record time before going idle? Best, Tim Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Is that the max RAM the computer will support? WinXP only handles 3GB of RAM but the extra .5 might help marginally. Why is the page file so big? Have you tried letting Windows manage it? Have you turned off all the Windows look stuff? Right click on my computer, choose properties, advanced tab, settings, set for best performance. Have you defragmented the hard drive recently? How full is the drive? Have you tried breaking your manuscript into pieces? Word will use an obnoxiously large amount of RAM when its got a big big doc. Computers have come a long long way since yours was new, its probably not a bad idea to upgrade. Even a low end workstation thats 5 years old (like the HP XW8000 I'm using right now for instance) will have 2x the horsepower of your machine... The reason most PC people go to Macs is that they've never used a WORKSTATION class PC. Its like the difference between a Chevy Aveo and a Camaro... -Curt Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:36:57 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 00ca01cbd096$49095010$db1bf030$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a minor two ago where ever I am the. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Thanks Dan, I have just made that change [I had it at 4000, now at 6500]. Hopefully that will help. With the mydefrag program running that Walt suggested [thanks again Walt] it does start and run faster. I tried switching the memory chips around, but it is still as the manual says, running a matched pair in 1 and 3 [2 x 256 MB] and 2 and 4 [2 x 1 GB]. That didn't do anything. Once it starts working it is fine, but it is that 2 minute wait for it to process the first statement after a pause that is driving me nuts. The manual suggests a matched set of 2 x 2GB as optimal, but I'll have to be a lot more frustrated before I spend that amount of $. I am reminded of a friend who had a then new 286 when we bought our first laptop: That is entirely too easy to pick up and throw against the wall. I may have to move my sledge hammer out to the back porch. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out On a Windoze XP machine, you should be running a fixed page (swap) file of 2.5x your RAM size. By setting it to a fixed size you will cut down significantly on page swaps. Otherwise, everything else sounds OK. Dan --- On Sat, 2/19/11, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 9:42 PM At the moment the HD is 32% free, freshly defragged. The machine has an 80 GB SATA HD with a 50 GB Windows partition and a 30DB Ubuntu partition. I'll do the checks you suggested and try out the dictation in the morning. Thanks - Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
I am checking it out on e-Bay. @ $60 for a matched 2 x 2 GB for this one [optimal according to the manual]. Any reason I couldn't use 4 x 1GB instead? 2GB DDR2 PC2-4300 is what is called for, but I see a lot of DDR2 PC-5300's out there. I assume they are newer model chips, but would they work OK in my older machine? Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dave Walton Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 10:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out If the onboard video uses system ram, you can get funky available memory numbers like that. You need multiple cores and/or multiple processors for speech recognition to work smoothly. Windows is a resource hog, but pales in comparison to Dragon. -Dave Walton On Feb 19, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: What Rich said and add more memory. 2.49 gig of ram just doesn't sound right. Most computers of that vintage shipped with 512mb of ram and were upgradeable to 2gb of ram. Rick Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:49:17 -0500 From: richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Is your hard drive near capacity? It might not have enough swap space. Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr, you can see what apps are using resources (Processes), and you can see memory usage (Performance). It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup by doing Start -- Run -- then type msconfig and hit enter. You can go in and uncheck startup apps, some of which might be completely unneeded but take up resources. --R On 2/19/2011 7:41 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
OK Allan, you just passed my ability level/ understanding of computer HD's. I'm thinking that the mydefrag should keep it pretty well together, but there is extra space in the 'Ubuntu partition, but Windows doesn't see it. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: On a Windoze XP machine, you should be running a fixed page (swap) file of 2.5x your RAM size. By setting it to a fixed size you will cut down significantly on page swaps. Also create the swap file on a clean partition so it won't be fragmented right away. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Thanks Don, it was accidental, but that is almost how I did it ... well, one day later but using the 'mydefrag' program. Should I do it again with the no page file, another defrag and then set it back to 6500? Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Set the PC to no swap file, defrag, then create a fixed size swap file, 2.5X the memory (as stated earlier). This results in a clean, not fragmented swap file, that will stay that way. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: On a Windoze XP machine, you should be running a fixed page (swap) file of 2.5x your RAM size. By setting it to a fixed size you will cut down significantly on page swaps. Also create the swap file on a clean partition so it won't be fragmented right away. Allan -- 1983 300D -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
I am seriously considering an upgrade, but just don't have the spare cash at the moment. I'll try all the suggestions and see what happens. You guys have been great. If anyone ever needs to know about the political and social situation in the prosperous and independent minded 1st century Galilee [district of the gentiles] just ask. That I understand reasonably well, computers lose me at a very low level. Thanks again - Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:59 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Is that the max RAM the computer will support? WinXP only handles 3GB of RAM but the extra .5 might help marginally. Why is the page file so big? Have you tried letting Windows manage it? Have you turned off all the Windows look stuff? Right click on my computer, choose properties, advanced tab, settings, set for best performance. Have you defragmented the hard drive recently? How full is the drive? Have you tried breaking your manuscript into pieces? Word will use an obnoxiously large amount of RAM when its got a big big doc. Computers have come a long long way since yours was new, its probably not a bad idea to upgrade. Even a low end workstation thats 5 years old (like the HP XW8000 I'm using right now for instance) will have 2x the horsepower of your machine... The reason most PC people go to Macs is that they've never used a WORKSTATION class PC. Its like the difference between a Chevy Aveo and a Camaro... -Curt Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:36:57 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Message-ID: 00ca01cbd096$49095010$db1bf030$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a minor two ago where ever I am the. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
That certainly wouldn't hurt. I don't know that it will make a significant difference, but it won't hurt anything to try. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.netwrote: Thanks Don, it was accidental, but that is almost how I did it ... well, one day later but using the 'mydefrag' program. Should I do it again with the no page file, another defrag and then set it back to 6500? Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Set the PC to no swap file, defrag, then create a fixed size swap file, 2.5X the memory (as stated earlier). This results in a clean, not fragmented swap file, that will stay that way. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: On a Windoze XP machine, you should be running a fixed page (swap) file of 2.5x your RAM size. By setting it to a fixed size you will cut down significantly on page swaps. Also create the swap file on a clean partition so it won't be fragmented right away. Allan -- 1983 300D - -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to listen while you are away? It sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able to beat it. I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like pause? Or a setting for max record time before going idle? Best, Tim Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:35:48 -0500 Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: OK Allan, you just passed my ability level/ understanding of computer HD's. I'm thinking that the mydefrag should keep it pretty well together, but there is extra space in the 'Ubuntu partition, but Windows doesn't see it. Bill R The Ubuntu partition is most likely a format that Winders doesn't recognize. If the Ubuntu partition were of a type Winders did recognize, you would have to manually tell it about the extra partition. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
As someone pointed out, a huge Word document will slow the system down as well. If that's a possible issue, dictate to new, small docs, then merge or copy the text to the master document after the dictation session. Dragon will read a document, looking for word patterns to understand your speach better - maybe it's reading the entire doc every time you dictate now? I don't understand the detailed workings of that feature yet. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.netwrote: My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Is your hard drive near capacity? It might not have enough swap space. Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr, you can see what apps are using resources (Processes), and you can see memory usage (Performance). It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup by doing Start -- Run -- then type msconfig and hit enter. You can go in and uncheck startup apps, some of which might be completely unneeded but take up resources. --R On 2/19/2011 7:41 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
What Rich said and add more memory. 2.49 gig of ram just doesn't sound right. Most computers of that vintage shipped with 512mb of ram and were upgradeable to 2gb of ram. Rick Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:49:17 -0500 From: richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Is your hard drive near capacity? It might not have enough swap space. Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr, you can see what apps are using resources (Processes), and you can see memory usage (Performance). It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup by doing Start -- Run -- then type msconfig and hit enter. You can go in and uncheck startup apps, some of which might be completely unneeded but take up resources. --R On 2/19/2011 7:41 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
--R wrote: Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr... You can get Task Mgr with ctrl+shift+esc also. It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup... There is also a very nice small control panel applet that allows all this from the control panel apps. It is called startup control panel, by Mike Lin. See: http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml or: http://www.mlin.net/StartupMonitor.shtml mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Thanks - this particular one came with 512 and I added 2 GB, it has a capacity of 4, but I have not run it higher as yet. I tried it without the 512 memory, but it didn't make any difference that I could tell so I put it back in. I'll do the checks that Rich suggested now. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 8:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out What Rich said and add more memory. 2.49 gig of ram just doesn't sound right. Most computers of that vintage shipped with 512mb of ram and were upgradeable to 2gb of ram. Rick Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:49:17 -0500 From: richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Is your hard drive near capacity? It might not have enough swap space. Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr, you can see what apps are using resources (Processes), and you can see memory usage (Performance). It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup by doing Start -- Run -- then type msconfig and hit enter. You can go in and uncheck startup apps, some of which might be completely unneeded but take up resources. --R On 2/19/2011 7:41 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
At the moment the HD is 32% free, freshly defragged. The machine has an 80 GB SATA HD with a 50 GB Windows partition and a 30DB Ubuntu partition. I'll do the checks you suggested and try out the dictation in the morning. Thanks - Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Is your hard drive near capacity? It might not have enough swap space. Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr, you can see what apps are using resources (Processes), and you can see memory usage (Performance). It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup by doing Start -- Run -- then type msconfig and hit enter. You can go in and uncheck startup apps, some of which might be completely unneeded but take up resources. --R On 2/19/2011 7:41 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Try a program called mydefrag next time you run a defrag, it uses the official Windows defrag api's, and has some very nice options to not only defrag, but optimize the ordering of files on the drive based on what is used the most. It has monthly, weekly, and daily scripts to do the optimizations (shuffles data around on the physical disk to take advantage of seek time differences at the center vs at the edges), and can be set to run in the background behind the screen saver, so you don't have to remember it. I've used it on my dad's XP laptop with great success. Walt On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment the HD is 32% free, freshly defragged. The machine has an 80 GB SATA HD with a 50 GB Windows partition and a 30DB Ubuntu partition. I'll do the checks you suggested and try out the dictation in the morning. Thanks - Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Is your hard drive near capacity? It might not have enough swap space. Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr, you can see what apps are using resources (Processes), and you can see memory usage (Performance). It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup by doing Start -- Run -- then type msconfig and hit enter. You can go in and uncheck startup apps, some of which might be completely unneeded but take up resources. --R On 2/19/2011 7:41 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
Thanks Walt, I will do a search for that one. Bill R 1981 300SD @325k miles -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Walt Zarnoch Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 10:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Try a program called mydefrag next time you run a defrag, it uses the official Windows defrag api's, and has some very nice options to not only defrag, but optimize the ordering of files on the drive based on what is used the most. It has monthly, weekly, and daily scripts to do the optimizations (shuffles data around on the physical disk to take advantage of seek time differences at the center vs at the edges), and can be set to run in the background behind the screen saver, so you don't have to remember it. I've used it on my dad's XP laptop with great success. Walt On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment the HD is 32% free, freshly defragged. The machine has an 80 GB SATA HD with a 50 GB Windows partition and a 30DB Ubuntu partition. I'll do the checks you suggested and try out the dictation in the morning. Thanks - Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out Is your hard drive near capacity? It might not have enough swap space. Do CTRL-ALT-DEL and bring up the Task Mgr, you can see what apps are using resources (Processes), and you can see memory usage (Performance). It might have a lot of crapware running and using up memory. You can check to see what is being started at startup by doing Start -- Run -- then type msconfig and hit enter. You can go in and uncheck startup apps, some of which might be completely unneeded but take up resources. --R On 2/19/2011 7:41 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: Corrected a few mistakes in typing [which is one reason I need the dictation program]. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:37 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out From a longtime lurker - I am spending a lot of time doing research and writing these days, and I am having a computer problem that I do not understand and hopefully one of you can offer some insight. I have an old Dell desktop computer [it was free], Pentium 4 CPU, 2.8Ghz, 2.49 GB of Ram, running a legal XP Professional with Service Pack 3. Paging file is 4,000 MB. Things go pretty well until I am using my Dragon Naturally Speaking, version 10 [Gerry inspired me] to edit and add text to my manuscript [180 pages, MS Word 2007]. It usually is fast and pretty accurate until I stop for a moment to do something else, and then it frequently starts to have long pauses, most of the time followed by a message that it is recovering from low system resources. It will freeze up for a minute and then type what I have said. If I have gotten impatient and moved using the keyboard it will type what I said a min. or two ago where ever I am then. I am well above the minimum resources for the program, and often just close it out in frustration and go back to my typing - but I do find the dictation easier until is screws up. I cannot figure out why the stalling and low system resources warning, and am assuming I have some setting that is off, but not evident to me. Anyone with ideas [presented for a moderate computer user level] to share would be greatly appreciated. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
