Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Someday when I have big money I'll turn my 1 car into a 2 1/2 car (which will take up all the available width) and get something like this. I'm impressed with how inexpensive that is... -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:17:40 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed andrew strasfogel wrote: My ceiling is 9'6 This is 9'3, just remember my prior comment about sticking your car roof through the ceiling: http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp7a-d.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Me three. When I do it I want 220v out in the garage. Thats only maybe 10 feet from the house. When I do that I want a subpanel in the garage with at least 3 30a circuits so I can run the welder (which requires a 20a) through its complete duty cycle without tripping a breaker. Right now if the welder starts to get hot it'll trip the breaker. I can weld about 2 continuous before it trips... -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:28:18 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That is cool. I need to do the same thing. We have 100 Amp service panel and I want to move to 200 Amp. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
As a practical matter, can someone 1) compute how much shipping would cost, and 2) outline the cost and steps needed to get it into the garage and installed (let alone the electrical hook up)? On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someday when I have big money I'll turn my 1 car into a 2 1/2 car (which will take up all the available width) and get something like this. I'm impressed with how inexpensive that is... -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:17:40 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed andrew strasfogel wrote: My ceiling is 9'6 This is 9'3, just remember my prior comment about sticking your car roof through the ceiling: http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp7a-d.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You do not want the cable across floor. You want the clear floor version. Trust me the first time your cart, transmission jack, etc gets stuck on the bump on floor you will wish you paid extra for clear floor version. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop As a practical matter, can someone 1) compute how much shipping would cost, and 2) outline the cost and steps needed to get it into the garage and installed (let alone the electrical hook up)? On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someday when I have big money I'll turn my 1 car into a 2 1/2 car (which will take up all the available width) and get something like this. I'm impressed with how inexpensive that is... -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:17:40 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed andrew strasfogel wrote: My ceiling is 9'6 This is 9'3, just remember my prior comment about sticking your car roof through the ceiling: http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp7a-d.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
When I do that I want a subpanel in the garage with at least 3 30a circuits so I can run the welder (which requires a 20a) through its complete duty cycle without tripping a breaker. The usual 220V welder plug is something like a 30A small version of a clothes drier plug. 10-gauge (30A) wire at a minimum, my welder (and range, and RV, it's a triplet installation) uses 8-gauge (40A) wire. I backfeed Big Bertha through one of these plugs when I'm running the house on that generator. Poor little 140A generator is limited to a 40A feed! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ahh, my welder is 110v I should have said. I don't have any 220v out in the garage right now. I should though, everything is a little less expensive if you can use 220v, welder, compressor, etc. -Curt --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 10:44 AM When I do that I want a subpanel in the garage with at least 3 30a circuits so I can run the welder (which requires a 20a) through its complete duty cycle without tripping a breaker. The usual 220V welder plug is something like a 30A small version of a clothes drier plug. 10-gauge (30A) wire at a minimum, my welder (and range, and RV, it's a triplet installation) uses 8-gauge (40A) wire. I backfeed Big Bertha through one of these plugs when I'm running the house on that generator. Poor little 140A generator is limited to a 40A feed! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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220V equipment is not necessarily less expensive. It's only less expensive if its more efficient and the $$$ saved more than offsets the additional cost, which is rarely the case in a home garage. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Jim Cathey Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Ahh, my welder is 110v I should have said. I don't have any 220v out in the garage right now. I should though, everything is a little less expensive if you can use 220v, welder, compressor, etc. -Curt --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 10:44 AM When I do that I want a subpanel in the garage with at least 3 30a circuits so I can run the welder (which requires a 20a) through its complete duty cycle without tripping a breaker. The usual 220V welder plug is something like a 30A small version of a clothes drier plug. 10-gauge (30A) wire at a minimum, my welder (and range, and RV, it's a triplet installation) uses 8-gauge (40A) wire. I backfeed Big Bertha through one of these plugs when I'm running the house on that generator. Poor little 140A generator is limited to a 40A feed! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In the stuff I've been looking at the 220v is usually a little less expensive or I can get the seller to move a little on the price. For instance: I was looking for a compressor from Harbor Freight. They didn't have the 110v unit, the 220v was like $10 cheaper anyway and the sales lady offered to take another $20 off. I should have bought it... Looks to still be true: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94667 is 110v, $229 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93271 220v $209 -Curt --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 11:07 AM 220V equipment is not necessarily less expensive. It's only less expensive if its more efficient and the $$$ saved more than offsets the additional cost, which is rarely the case in a home garage. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Jim Cathey Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Ahh, my welder is 110v I should have said. I don't have any 220v out in the garage right now. I should though, everything is a little less expensive if you can use 220v, welder, compressor, etc. -Curt --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 10:44 AM When I do that I want a subpanel in the garage with at least 3 30a circuits so I can run the welder (which requires a 20a) through its complete duty cycle without tripping a breaker. The usual 220V welder plug is something like a 30A small version of a clothes drier plug. 10-gauge (30A) wire at a minimum, my welder (and range, and RV, it's a triplet installation) uses 8-gauge (40A) wire. I backfeed Big Bertha through one of these plugs when I'm running the house on that generator. Poor little 140A generator is limited to a 40A feed! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Curt Raymond wrote: Someday when I have big money I'll turn my 1 car into a 2 1/2 car (which will take up all the available width) and get something like this. I'm impressed with how inexpensive that is... http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp7a-d.htm Like Andy said, $500 or so to ship it to the east coast, so delivered price isn't quite as stunning. There are a couple of places within a hundred miles of me that sell 9000lb lifts for $1300-1600. If they'll load it in my truck for me, it'd be worth it to save the freight charges. I like the clear floor versions (syncro cables or chains run overhead instead of across the floor), but those need 12-13' of ceiling. My house plans are for a raised two story colonial, with half of the basement above ground, attached 13' garage ceiling level with the first story ceiling of the house, and the 2nd story running full length over the garage and first story. That was the least amount of building materials and surface area that I could come up with to enclose a good size home and a tall three car garage. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Curt Raymond wrote: Me three. When I do it I want 220v out in the garage. Thats only maybe 10 feet from the house. When I do it, I want to put 200A service panel in the garage, on the wall it shares with the house. I'll put all the 240v loads (water heater and well pump in basement, kitchen stove on first floor, dryer on 2nd floor, welder and compressor in garage) within 10' of that wall. Copper is getting to be expensive. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My garage has two separate 220V 30A outlets. The prior owner had a welder and air compressor that both took 220. A neighbor has 3-phase to run his machine shop tools, which he somehow creates by running a 3 phase motor and tapping off of it. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A neighbor has 3-phase to run his machine shop tools, which he somehow creates by running a 3 phase motor and tapping off of it. It's called a rotary converter. Think of it as a rotating transformer. The motor is manually spun to get it turning then power is applied to one phase. It'll spin up to speed. Power is then available off the other two phases, though there is some slip so that the phase power is not exactly on 120-degree spacing. Good enough, though. I have three-phase 140A/208-240V power available in my garage, courtesy of Big Bertha! I've never yet used it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: I think that unless I can walk beneath the car w/o crouching, it makes more sense to get the low rise lift rather than a post lift. With a 9 1/2' ceiling, the floor of the car will be less than 6' in most cases. You decide whether it's easier to stoop a bit or get a chair on wheels. The two post lift leaves a lot more open space under the car than a scissors lift, which gets in the way to various extents when doing tranny, driveshaft, or exhaust work. The drive on lifts are foolproof, just put the wheels on the rails and hit the lift button, but they don't let you remove the wheels. Drive ons are great for oil changes, except for MBZ, which you don't need to get under to drain the oil. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How much power? I dunno, but we recently had a heavy up in the house so I guess there is adequate capacity. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What is a heavy up? By power, I mean what currently runs from the house to the garage? Is there a sub-panel in the garage with breakers or fuses? How would you turn off the power to the garage from the house end? Are there breakers at the house end that you would use to shut off the power to the garage? That alone would tell you what is now available. If you look at the wiring at the house end or the garage end it will also tell you whether there is any additional capacity available in the sense of possibly having wire that exceeds could be fused at a higher amperage. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop How much power? I dunno, but we recently had a heavy up in the house so I guess there is adequate capacity. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A heavy up is an enlargement of the main panel box to boost the electrical capacity. Yes, there is a separate panel in the garage. The non-trivial part is getting any unit delivered to the house, unloaded, and installed! On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:24 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a heavy up? By power, I mean what currently runs from the house to the garage? Is there a sub-panel in the garage with breakers or fuses? How would you turn off the power to the garage from the house end? Are there breakers at the house end that you would use to shut off the power to the garage? That alone would tell you what is now available. If you look at the wiring at the house end or the garage end it will also tell you whether there is any additional capacity available in the sense of possibly having wire that exceeds could be fused at a higher amperage. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop How much power? I dunno, but we recently had a heavy up in the house so I guess there is adequate capacity. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is cool. I need to do the same thing. We have 100 Amp service panel and I want to move to 200 Amp. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop A heavy up is an enlargement of the main panel box to boost the electrical capacity. Yes, there is a separate panel in the garage. The non-trivial part is getting any unit delivered to the house, unloaded, and installed! On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:24 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a heavy up? By power, I mean what currently runs from the house to the garage? Is there a sub-panel in the garage with breakers or fuses? How would you turn off the power to the garage from the house end? Are there breakers at the house end that you would use to shut off the power to the garage? That alone would tell you what is now available. If you look at the wiring at the house end or the garage end it will also tell you whether there is any additional capacity available in the sense of possibly having wire that exceeds could be fused at a higher amperage. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop How much power? I dunno, but we recently had a heavy up in the house so I guess there is adequate capacity. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I always use a log as a support in case the car falls off the jack. The problem with ramps is they might move as I attempt to drive up them. I like the idea of a lift better. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always use a log as a support in case the car falls off the jack. The problem with ramps is they might move as I attempt to drive up them. I like the idea of a lift better. I have bad luck with ramps as well, at least on my smooth, sealed garage floor. they just slide, the car never goes up on them. Jack stands and a decent floor jack have always served me well. A real lift that would let me stand under the car would be wonderful; unfortunately I have neither the overhead clearance nor the money for one right not. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tempting, but at $1350 not what I would call inexpensive... On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Here's what you need... http://www.asedeals.com/ low_rise_lifts.htmlOn the inexpensive side. A low rise lift to give clearance for your underneath and not push up the floor above.. Chuck why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would prefer one that is narrower so I wouldn't have to drive over it all the time when entering and leaving the garage... I also wonder what would be involved in moving the non-portable unit from place to place. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Here's what you need... http://www.asedeals.com/ low_rise_lifts.htmlOn the inexpensive side. A low rise lift to give clearance for your underneath and not push up the floor above.. Chuck why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew, Possibly, just some muscle. Chuck On Aug 21, 2008, at 8:32 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I would prefer one that is narrower so I wouldn't have to drive over it all the time when entering and leaving the garage... I also wonder what would be involved in moving the non-portable unit from place to place. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Here's what you need... http://www.asedeals.com/ low_rise_lifts.htmlOn the inexpensive side. A low rise lift to give clearance for your underneath and not push up the floor above.. Chuck why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Glue some rubber on the bottom of the ramps so they won't slide. I guess my garage floor is rougher as I have not experienced any issues with sliding. I am always concerned about going too far or not being centered but I can always get my wife or one of the boys to watch and let me know if I appear to be in danger of going off the ramp. One thing I will comment on (and have in the past) is that my ramps are home made out of plywood. They were initially built for a Mercury Sable that my wife had. The front spoiler on it was too low to the ground and my old steel ramps would not work. The spoiler would hit the ramp long before the wheels got to the ramp. I made ramps with a longer ramp part so it is quite a bit easier to drive up. The angle is not as steep. They do project further under the car so can be a bit in the way when sliding under the car but I can live with that. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always use a log as a support in case the car falls off the jack. The problem with ramps is they might move as I attempt to drive up them. I like the idea of a lift better. I have bad luck with ramps as well, at least on my smooth, sealed garage floor. they just slide, the car never goes up on them. Jack stands and a decent floor jack have always served me well. A real lift that would let me stand under the car would be wonderful; unfortunately I have neither the overhead clearance nor the money for one right not. Allan -- 1983 300D _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew, First, ditch the log. It's too unstable even if it's a foot in diameter. Get two jack stands. Second, put a 2x6x36 or 48 on the floor in front of each ramp with one end up against a concrete sill or something like that. Did it for many years. Ramps won't slide. Chuck On Aug 21, 2008, at 7:46 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I always use a log as a support in case the car falls off the jack. The problem with ramps is they might move as I attempt to drive up them. I like the idea of a lift better. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: I would prefer one that is narrower so I wouldn't have to drive over it all the time when entering and leaving the garage... I also wonder what would be involved in moving the non-portable unit from place to place. If you have 12' of ceiling height, get a wide one with clear floor underneath. Then you just swing the arms out of the way with plenty of room to drive in and open your doors without hitting the uprights. If you move and take it with you, you will have to specifically exempt it from the sales contract (it's bolted to the floor) and you have the logistics of unbolting, disassembling, and moving a 1500lb object. Then you need to have about 4 of good concrete and 12' of overhead clearance at the new garage. There are floor plate lifts that can fit under a 9' or 10' ceiling, but you would be driving over the hump in the middle and if you might have to be careful about hoisting your car into the ceiling. (with any hoist, if you don't have 16' ceilings you better not be hoisting with the hood open) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My ceiling is 9'6 due to the architect who designed our garage with a flat roof. On the bright side, I can do a green roof one day to grow even more heirloom tomatoes. Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is there any reason that you could not raise the roof and give yourself more room? What is the garage built of? Are there height restrictions in your area? How does it compare to the house in terms of height? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop My ceiling is 9'6 due to the architect who designed our garage with a flat roof. On the bright side, I can do a green roof one day to grow even more heirloom tomatoes. Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: My ceiling is 9'6 This is 9'3, just remember my prior comment about sticking your car roof through the ceiling: http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp7a-d.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think that unless I can walk beneath the car w/o crouching, it makes more sense to get the low rise lift rather than a post lift. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: My ceiling is 9'6 This is 9'3, just remember my prior comment about sticking your car roof through the ceiling: http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp7a-d.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Also, that low post lift costs $495 for shipping whereas the low rise was $1400 delivered (vs. nearly $1800, plus installation and electrical charges). On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:22 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I think that unless I can walk beneath the car w/o crouching, it makes more sense to get the low rise lift rather than a post lift. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: My ceiling is 9'6 This is 9'3, just remember my prior comment about sticking your car roof through the ceiling: http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp7a-d.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've cured a clunking downshift by properly adjusting the transmission modulator to the correct working pressure. Too high and you get clunks. Too low and you get flaring. Adjusting it per the book with a gauge is the only way to know for sure. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/19/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I should have asked whether a bad vacuum control valve will cause the symptoms that I describe (clunking on downshifts). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What's a gauge. Just kidding, I'm not that bovine. I know what they are, but I don't do gauges in the quantitative sense. I do cookbook, pictures, and mentoreeing under the guidance of a certified technician. I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. This required me to jack up the car and slide underneath while holding my breath, so it's not one of my favorite activities, which is why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I've cured a clunking downshift by properly adjusting the transmission modulator to the correct working pressure. Too high and you get clunks. Too low and you get flaring. Adjusting it per the book with a gauge is the only way to know for sure. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/19/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I should have asked whether a bad vacuum control valve will cause the symptoms that I describe (clunking on downshifts). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:43 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. At the risk of going Marshall on you, please CHECK THE VACUUM SYSTEM before you play with the transmission modulator! On every car I've seen the modulator pressure was right on spec or nearly so without any tweaks, and turning it one way or the other just made things worse. Chasing down vacuum leaks is tedious and less satisfying than turning the little crank doodad, but it is FAR MORE LIKELY to lead you to a properly shifting transmission! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK! There is nothing more tedious than jacking up the wagon etc. to turn the tiny crank, so I guess I am motivated to learn something new. Where do I go for the cookbook? On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:43 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. At the risk of going Marshall on you, please CHECK THE VACUUM SYSTEM before you play with the transmission modulator! On every car I've seen the modulator pressure was right on spec or nearly so without any tweaks, and turning it one way or the other just made things worse. Chasing down vacuum leaks is tedious and less satisfying than turning the little crank doodad, but it is FAR MORE LIKELY to lead you to a properly shifting transmission! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew, Here's what you need... http://www.asedeals.com/ low_rise_lifts.htmlOn the inexpensive side. A low rise lift to give clearance for your underneath and not push up the floor above.. Chuck why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Get a set of ramps and just drive up onto them. That should give enough clearance to get to the tranny. Alternatively, if you don't have a floor jack, get one. Much quicker and easier than using the crank thing in the trunk- and please use some sort of stand or blocking to protect you before you crawl under. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop OK! There is nothing more tedious than jacking up the wagon etc. to turn the tiny crank, so I guess I am motivated to learn something new. Where do I go for the cookbook? On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:43 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. At the risk of going Marshall on you, please CHECK THE VACUUM SYSTEM before you play with the transmission modulator! On every car I've seen the modulator pressure was right on spec or nearly so without any tweaks, and turning it one way or the other just made things worse. Chasing down vacuum leaks is tedious and less satisfying than turning the little crank doodad, but it is FAR MORE LIKELY to lead you to a properly shifting transmission! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. This required me to jack up the car and slide underneath while holding my breath, so it's not one of my favorite activities, which is why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). PLEASE get some ramps or jack stands to support the car, never get under a car supported only by a jack. Jacks are for lifting, not holdingmany folks have been killed when a jack let go while they were under their car. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xxuapi452k1qmln3f5apa455partnumber=1230700046 They list it as back order. Did you try classic parts? This does not bode well its very crucial to the operation of the transmission. -Rolf andrew strasfogel wrote: I've been playing with the transmission settings on my new 318K miles 300TD turbo wagon. It had been flaring, and when I cured that by adjusting the cable on top of the valve cover and the tiny crank on the side of the transmission, it now clunks when shifting down into first gear. Could a leaky vacuum control valve cause this clunking? All the other adjustments I made seemed to help. Incidentally, the part number for this valve is 123 070 0046. Rusty tells me it is NLA but perhaps one of you fine people has a good used one or a NOS valve I can have for a proverbial song? 1983 300TD 318 K 1983 300TD 282 K (trusty/rusty and for sale cheap) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
andrew strasfogel wrote: Incidentally, the part number for this valve is 123 070 0046. Rusty tells me it is NLA but perhaps one of you fine people has a good used one or a NOS valve I can have for a proverbial song? I tried to check bimby to see if the 116 version was available, or if there were different 123 versions, and got an error message when I clicked on the Online Catalog link. I have a 300D pump around here somewhere, might have a good VCV on it, but I'm pretty sure it is not 1985. http://buymbparts.com/epcmakemodel2.epc?make=MERCEDES Processing Error - make=MERCEDES Error: 1705 Message: File access is denied d:\countercat\wwstore\wws_stores.dbf. Code: Program: routerepc Line No: 47 Handled by: Webstoreserveraa.Error() ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Rolf wrote: http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xxuapi452k1qmln3f5apa455partnumber=1230700046 They list it as back order. Did you try classic parts? This does not bode well its very crucial to the operation of the transmission. Check with a dealer if Rusty can't get it. I see it as available with a retail price of $89 (vice $125 from Arizona), but the parts guy can tell you for sure. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
The annoying thing is that I was just looking at one a few weeks ago and I am pretty sure it was under $20. Looks like I have some new gold to dig for at the junk yards. -Rolf tom savage wrote: Rolf wrote: http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xxuapi452k1qmln3f5apa455partnumber=1230700046 They list it as back order. Did you try classic parts? This does not bode well its very crucial to the operation of the transmission. Check with a dealer if Rusty can't get it. I see it as available with a retail price of $89 (vice $125 from Arizona), but the parts guy can tell you for sure. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
I would be careful in stockpiling these nuggets because the Classic Center said that Mercedes would probably start making them again since the demand was so hugh... On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The annoying thing is that I was just looking at one a few weeks ago and I am pretty sure it was under $20. Looks like I have some new gold to dig for at the junk yards. -Rolf tom savage wrote: Rolf wrote: http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xxuapi452k1qmln3f5apa455partnumber=1230700046 They list it as back order. Did you try classic parts? This does not bode well its very crucial to the operation of the transmission. Check with a dealer if Rusty can't get it. I see it as available with a retail price of $89 (vice $125 from Arizona), but the parts guy can tell you for sure. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
I guess I should have asked whether a bad vacuum control valve will cause the symptoms that I describe (clunking on downshifts). On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:38 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I would be careful in stockpiling these nuggets because the Classic Center said that Mercedes would probably start making them again since the demand was so hugh... On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The annoying thing is that I was just looking at one a few weeks ago and I am pretty sure it was under $20. Looks like I have some new gold to dig for at the junk yards. -Rolf tom savage wrote: Rolf wrote: http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xxuapi452k1qmln3f5apa455partnumber=1230700046 They list it as back order. Did you try classic parts? This does not bode well its very crucial to the operation of the transmission. Check with a dealer if Rusty can't get it. I see it as available with a retail price of $89 (vice $125 from Arizona), but the parts guy can tell you for sure. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
