Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Steve MacSween]

So you, like, um, want WHAT for $2?


Mac

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Frederick Moir]

Loved his feedback ratio!
"Would you buy a used car from this man?"
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Mac


 
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Marshall,

I agree that wash down is not a problem in a fuel injected car because
of the way the fuel is managed - the fuel is sprayed into the manifold,
usually well into the manifold & is well atomized.

But it is a problem in carbureted cars, even Mercedes. Gasoline wash
down is caused by fuel condensing out of the charge - the same process
is what makes carburetor chokes a necessity. If fuel condensing out of
the charge were not an issue then carbureted cars would only have a high
speed idle & would not need a choke for cold starting. The choke
enriches the fuel mixture to make up for the fuel that is condensed out
of the charge. But the fuel droplets tend to be larger when the choke is
closed & this actually adds to the problem.

Carbureted Mercedes gas engines do not wear out AS FAST, not because
gasoline wash down is not an issue but because the engines are made from
much harder steel then the mild iron American engines. Also, American
engines through the early 70's tend to be tuned richer for performance &
driveability. Tuning rich also adds to the problem.

Tom Hargrave
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Tom Hargrave wrote:
> And Mobile 1 won't help a bit if the issue is gasoline wash down. The
issue
> is not lack of oil pressure at start up. The issue is oil that's
coating the
> cylinder walls being diluted with fuel condensate because the cylinder
walls
> are cold at start up. No-one's oil (synthetic or otherwise) protects
against
> this.

That's seldom a problem in a well engineered and maintained engine. The 
cylinder walls of MOST well cared for Mercedes engines aren't seriously 
worn even after a quarter or even a half a million miles although using 
a synthetic might improve that slightly. Synthetics really do reduce 
most cold accelerated bearing wear (and other friction caused wear).

Marshall
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Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Jim Cathey]

I'd hate to see whatever it is that is capable of
straddling the gooseneck to drive on and off!
Scary big.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Rich Thomas]

That's a turbohydrodiesel, makes fuel from water to give excellent 
mileage on whatever is put into it.  I'm guessing he has a magnetic flux 
inducer on the fuel line, and a Tornado turbulator on the air intake 
too.  There might even be a spare tank somewhere to collect the fuel it 
generates as it is driven.

You would think he would have vacuumed up the gum wrappers before he 
took the nice photos?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Robert Rentfro]

That's so cutting edge. 
I bet if you huff the exhaust while using the hydrogen converter you'll lose
weight! No wait...the front seats have been retro-fitted with ultrasonic
massage heads that destroy cellulite while you drive. Oh...and if you fill
the trunk with red brick pavers and you drive around the block while using
WVO and the hydrogen converter in tandem, you'll turn the pavers into gold
bricks. My favorite is when you drive around the block with a package of
bologna in the glove box the bologna turns into a perfectly medium-rare
ribeye.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[David Hemsley]

   I am quite a bit more than slightly confused by this.

   In producing bikodiesel I stress removing every bit of water I possibly can
   prior to putting the fuel in my vehicle's tank.

   Now, am I to understand that somethig to do with adding water increases the
   gas mileage?  How about corrosion, injector debris from the chemiclas in
   water, etc?


   Dave H...
   __

 From:  Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 To:  Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject:  Re: [MBZ] WTF?
 Date:  Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:05:43 -0600
 >That's a turbohydrodiesel, makes fuel from water to give excellent
 >mileage on whatever is put into it.  I'm guessing he has a magnetic flux
 >inducer on the fuel line, and a Tornado turbulator on the air intake
 >too.  There might even be a spare tank somewhere to collect the fuel it
 >generates as it is driven.
 >
 >You would think he would have vacuumed up the gum wrappers before he
 >took the nice photos?
 >
 >--R
 >
 >Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 > >
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 ADME:B:SS:CA:1123
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Tom Hargrave]

The car may be over priced but you'll love his home page.

http://www.greenbenz.com/

Regarding his hydro-conversion system.

He's taking energy from the alternator to break down water into hydrogen
& oxygen then he's feeding hydrogen & oxygen into the engine to create
power.

Sounds great, right?

But wait - he has to use that power plus more to drive the alternator
that he uses to generate the electricty that he uses to break the water
down into hydrogen and oxygen!

Last I checked there was no such thing as a prepetual motion machine and
his hydro-conversion is a farce.

Tom
www.kegkits.com 

Original Message
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   I am quite a bit more than slightly confused by this.

   In producing bikodiesel I stress removing every bit of water I
possibly can
   prior to putting the fuel in my vehicle's tank.

   Now, am I to understand that somethig to do with adding water
increases the
   gas mileage?  How about corrosion, injector debris from the chemiclas
in
   water, etc?


   Dave H...
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 To:  Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject:  Re: [MBZ] WTF?
 Date:  Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:05:43 -0600
 >That's a turbohydrodiesel, makes fuel from water to give excellent
 >mileage on whatever is put into it.  I'm guessing he has a
magnetic flux
 >inducer on the fuel line, and a Tornado turbulator on the air
intake
 >too.  There might even be a spare tank somewhere to collect the
fuel it
 >generates as it is driven.
 >
 >You would think he would have vacuumed up the gum wrappers before
he
 >took the nice photos?
 >
 >--R
 >
 >Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 > >
 
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Mitch Haley]

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> Last I checked there was no such thing as a prepetual motion machine and
> his hydro-conversion is a farce.

Unless the hydrogen tends to enhance the burning of the diesel, as propane
is reputed to do. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[OK Don]

More than the efficiency losses in the generation of the hydrogen that is ---
>
> Unless the hydrogen tends to enhance the burning of the diesel, as propane
> is reputed to do.
>
> Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Zoltan Finks]

Funny homepage. But some of the things he writes seem not jive with
what I've heard elsewhere. For example, he claims that biodiesel
actually makes more power than petro-based diesel.

Brian

On 11/10/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The car may be over priced but you'll love his home page.
>
> http://www.greenbenz.com/
>
> Regarding his hydro-conversion system.
>
> He's taking energy from the alternator to break down water into hydrogen
> & oxygen then he's feeding hydrogen & oxygen into the engine to create
> power.
>
> Sounds great, right?
>
> But wait - he has to use that power plus more to drive the alternator
> that he uses to generate the electricty that he uses to break the water
> down into hydrogen and oxygen!
>
> Last I checked there was no such thing as a prepetual motion machine and
> his hydro-conversion is a farce.
>
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com
>
> Original Message
> From: David Hemsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 11/10/07 04:13 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>I am quite a bit more than slightly confused by this.
>
>In producing bikodiesel I stress removing every bit of water I
> possibly can
>prior to putting the fuel in my vehicle's tank.
>
>Now, am I to understand that somethig to do with adding water
> increases the
>gas mileage?  How about corrosion, injector debris from the chemiclas
> in
>water, etc?
>
>
>Dave H...
>______________
>
>  From:  Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Reply-To:  Mercedes Discussion List 
>  To:  Mercedes Discussion List 
>  Subject:  Re: [MBZ] WTF?
>  Date:  Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:05:43 -0600
>  >That's a turbohydrodiesel, makes fuel from water to give excellent
>  >mileage on whatever is put into it.  I'm guessing he has a
> magnetic flux
>  >inducer on the fuel line, and a Tornado turbulator on the air
> intake
>  >too.  There might even be a spare tank somewhere to collect the
> fuel it
>  >generates as it is driven.
>  >
>  >You would think he would have vacuumed up the gum wrappers before
> he
>  >took the nice photos?
>  >
>  >--R
>  >
>  >Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>  > >
>
> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320180758015&ssPageNam
> e=
>  ADME:B:SS:CA:1123
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[andrew strasfogel]

Who would vandalize such a pretty car?

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> All the wood and moldings are gone?
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Already a parts car?

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All the wood and moldings are gone?



  
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Frederick W Moir]

Alles.
 It's twin (with mouldings) is in Naumkeg J/Y 90 380SEL
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

At 04:30 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote:
>Who would vandalize such a pretty car?
>
>On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/85203.html
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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Jim Cathey]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-350sd-1990- 
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350sd_W0QQitemZ170273356767QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd 
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Compression reduced to run on cheaper gasoline.  Auxiliary
ignitors added to compensate for lowered compression.  Two
cylinders added to smooth out the idle.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Allan Streib]

Well, pretty clearly the rods bent and they swapped in a V8.

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, pretty clearly the rods bent and they swapped in a V8.
>
> "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-350sd-1990-mercedez-benz-350sd_W0QQitemZ170273356767QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>

What kind of V-8 is that, anyway?  I clicked on the link expecting to
see a Chevy motor.  But then in the Q&A at the bottom the seller says
it's still a "disel."  I'm so confused.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Mitch Haley]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:


What kind of V-8 is that, anyway?  I clicked on the link expecting to
see a Chevy motor.  But then in the Q&A at the bottom the seller says
it's still a "disel."  I'm so confused.


Maybe they pulled out the MBZ 350 rodbender and dropped in the GM 350 
headleaker. Wouldn't that be neat, buy a 1991 MBZ and get a 1981 GM drivetrain?


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Loren Faeth]

That is the mysterious spark ignition "Diesel".  only 3 were made and 
none were supposed to be released to the public.  See the distributor 
cap and the coil.  Very exotic.  Must be worth millions (at least in 
ebay lister's minds)


You can make your own by buying a cheap 420SE and  then carefully 
removing the 420 nameplate and gluing on 300SD and turbo badges on the trunk.


At 11:19 AM 10/22/2008, you wrote:

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, pretty clearly the rods bent and they swapped in a V8.
>
> "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> 
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>

What kind of V-8 is that, anyway?  I clicked on the link expecting to
see a Chevy motor.  But then in the Q&A at the bottom the seller says
it's still a "disel."  I'm so confused.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Jim Cathey]

What kind of V-8 is that, anyway?  I clicked on the link expecting to
see a Chevy motor.  But then in the Q&A at the bottom the seller says
it's still a "disel."  I'm so confused.


He means "disel go faster than the original engine."

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
>> What kind of V-8 is that, anyway?  I clicked on the link expecting to
>> see a Chevy motor.  But then in the Q&A at the bottom the seller says
>> it's still a "disel."  I'm so confused.
>
> Maybe they pulled out the MBZ 350 rodbender and dropped in the GM 350
> headleaker. Wouldn't that be neat, buy a 1991 MBZ and get a 1981 GM
> drivetrain?
>

Add a turbo to the GM 5.7, and the badges on the back would still be
accurate!  (The head gaskets are going to blow anyway...)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[R A Bennell]

If you look at the photo, it appears to be an MB gas engine so I have no idea 
why it says it is a diesel.

Randy

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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
>> What kind of V-8 is that, anyway?  I clicked on the link expecting to
>> see a Chevy motor.  But then in the Q&A at the bottom the seller says
>> it's still a "disel."  I'm so confused.
>
> Maybe they pulled out the MBZ 350 rodbender and dropped in the GM 350
> headleaker. Wouldn't that be neat, buy a 1991 MBZ and get a 1981 GM
> drivetrain?
>

Add a turbo to the GM 5.7, and the badges on the back would still be
accurate!  (The head gaskets are going to blow anyway...)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Hendrik & Fay]

An early prototype of the Diesotto technology.

Hendrik

Loren Faeth wrote:
That is the mysterious spark ignition "Diesel".  only 3 were made and 
none were supposed to be released to the public.  See the distributor 
cap and the coil.  Very exotic.  Must be worth millions (at least in 
ebay lister's minds)


You can make your own by buying a cheap 420SE and  then carefully 
removing the 420 nameplate and gluing on 300SD and turbo badges on the 
trunk.





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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Mitch Haley]

You'd be surprised how fast you can get federal marshals on your doorstep
if you solicit donations without a license on the internet. Happened to
my brother last month. Fortunately the woman they were looking for hasn't
lived with him in over ten years, but he still didn't appreciate the 3AM
wake-up knock, or the involuntary search of the premises. 

Which leads to the question: Does an arrest warrant really give them
the right to search every residence in the country, including those
which the accused has never laid eyes upon, as long as the feds claim
the accused knows somebody who lives there?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:30:03 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Which leads to the question: Does an arrest warrant really give them
> the right to search every residence in the country, including those
> which the accused has never laid eyes upon, as long as the feds claim
> the accused knows somebody who lives there?

To search a residence, you need a search warrant, not an arrest warrant. I
presume it would specify the address.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Zoltan Finks]

My WTF is how the interior looks so nice at that age. Well, at least what
we're shown. The dash is uncracked and the glove box door seems to fit quite
nicely.
Brian

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Rich Thomas]

Put chore hands on yer monitor and feel the d-vine 240D healing 
pawer

--R

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> My WTF is how the interior looks so nice at that age. Well, at least what
> we're shown. The dash is uncracked and the glove box door seems to fit quite
> nicely.
> Brian
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> --
>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>>  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
>>  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Allan Streib]

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:48:07 -0600, "Craig McCluskey"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> To search a residence, you need a search warrant, not an arrest warrant.
> I presume it would specify the address.

However, if they show up at a residence, and have "reasonable cause" to
presume that the subject is inside, can they enter?  And once inside, if
they see any incriminating evidence "in plain sight" I believe they
don't need a warrant to act on that.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[John Robbins]

Allan Streib wrote:
> However, if they show up at a residence, and have "reasonable cause"
> to presume that the subject is inside, can they enter?

I hope not!  Otherwise, why would they need a warrant?

> And once inside, if they see any incriminating evidence "in plain
> sight" I believe they don't need a warrant to act on that.

I'm not sure on this one.  I've heard that if in searching they find 
something illegal that isn't related to the cause of the warrant they 
have to get another warrant.  I'm not sure if that applies to "in plain 
sight" or not.  I may very likely have heard wrong as well.

My $.02

John


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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Mitch Haley]

John Robbins wrote:
> I'm not sure on this one.  I've heard that if in searching they find
> something illegal that isn't related to the cause of the warrant they
> have to get another warrant.

I can answer that one. If they find it by accident while looking for
the item(s) listed on the warrant, they are in the clear. OTOH, if the
warrant lists the object to be found as a 300lb woman, they can't look
for her in a shoe box. It's my understanding that the unwarranted search
I mentioned earlier went quite quickly, as they really were just looking
to arrest a broad and not fishing for other stuff. As near as I can
tell, two women posted a plea on the internet for donations to pay
for a lawyer for a custody battle in Arkansas, and that resulted in
feds running around in Michigan looking for one of the women. Gigantic
waste of my/your/our money if that's what really happened. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Allan Streib]

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:09:43 -0500, "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Allan Streib wrote:
> > However, if they show up at a residence, and have "reasonable cause"
> > to presume that the subject is inside, can they enter?
> 
> I hope not!  Otherwise, why would they need a warrant?

I was assuming they had an arrest warrant for the subject, but not a
search warrant for the specific premises.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:
> I was assuming they had an arrest warrant for the subject, but not a
> search warrant for the specific premises.

That's my understanding of it. I don't think my brother was entirely
coherent when they woke him up in the middle of the night, but that's
how he told it to me. It would take a huge load of perjury to get a
warrant for his place, as I don't think he's laid eyes on the subject
in the past five years, and she doesn't know exactly where he lives now. 
I think they were just using the arrest warrant and 'probable cause'
to believe she'd be there. If they did that at my house, I'd tell
them that X county prosecuting attorney's office had her address last
summer when she took out a restraining order against her husband, go
talk to them, but I wouldn't let them in.
I'd sooner shoot both of them then let them make an armed home invasion
at my place. I hope I'd have the sense to grab the shotgun with the
flechettes in it if somebody started pounding on the door at 3am. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Kevin]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:48:07PM -0600, Craig McCluskey wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:30:03 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Which leads to the question: Does an arrest warrant really give them
> > the right to search every residence in the country, including those
> > which the accused has never laid eyes upon, as long as the feds claim
> > the accused knows somebody who lives there?
> 
> To search a residence, you need a search warrant, not an arrest warrant. I
> presume it would specify the address.

Correct, and for a 3AM call, it needs to be endorsed for night service. An
arrest warrant allows you to go knocking on a known place of residence, but
showing up to a place someone hasn't lived in ten years looking for them
AT THREE IN THE MORNING is really nothing more than flipping the bird at the
fourth amendment.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Rolf]

Of course none of this matters if you are a bounty hunter.

-Rolf

Kevin wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:48:07PM -0600, Craig McCluskey wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:30:03 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Which leads to the question: Does an arrest warrant really give them
>>> the right to search every residence in the country, including those
>>> which the accused has never laid eyes upon, as long as the feds claim
>>> the accused knows somebody who lives there?
>>>   
>> To search a residence, you need a search warrant, not an arrest warrant. I
>> presume it would specify the address.
>> 
>
> Correct, and for a 3AM call, it needs to be endorsed for night service. An
> arrest warrant allows you to go knocking on a known place of residence, but
> showing up to a place someone hasn't lived in ten years looking for them
> AT THREE IN THE MORNING is really nothing more than flipping the bird at the
> fourth amendment.
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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Mitch Haley]

Rolf wrote:
> 
> Of course none of this matters if you are a bounty hunter.

A while back there was a story in the news. Girl#1 (not on the lam)
is hiding out with boyfriend (who skipped out on probation) in a motel.
Bounty hunters (looking for girl#2, no relation to girl#1) almost get
inside by impersonating police, but they slam the door. Then a bounty
hunter tries to break in through a window. 

Boyfriend pulls a gun on him. He runs off and calls the cops, tells
them that a black guy with a gun is holding a white girl hostage. 
"hostage" crisis ends with the cops storming the motel room and
shooting boyfriend in the head. AFAIK, no charges filed against
bounty hunters for impersonating cops or attempted B&E of an occupied
dwelling. 
http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080302/NEWS01/803020681/1225/LANSING01
http://www.co.genesee.mi.us/Prosecutors/News-%20Prosecutor%20Announces%20Decision%20in%20Lansing%20Police%20Shooting.htm

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Zoltan Finks]

You know, I have always been quite uncomfortable with the notion of a bounty
hunter. I'm surprised they're legal.

I do like "Dog" though. He's just a softy.

Brian

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> Rolf wrote:
> >
> > Of course none of this matters if you are a bounty hunter.
>
> A while back there was a story in the news. Girl#1 (not on the lam)
> is hiding out with boyfriend (who skipped out on probation) in a motel.
> Bounty hunters (looking for girl#2, no relation to girl#1) almost get
> inside by impersonating police, but they slam the door. Then a bounty
> hunter tries to break in through a window.
>
> Boyfriend pulls a gun on him. He runs off and calls the cops, tells
> them that a black guy with a gun is holding a white girl hostage.
> "hostage" crisis ends with the cops storming the motel room and
> shooting boyfriend in the head. AFAIK, no charges filed against
> bounty hunters for impersonating cops or attempted B&E of an occupied
> dwelling.
>
> http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080302/NEWS01/803020681/1225/LANSING01
>
> http://www.co.genesee.mi.us/Prosecutors/News-%20Prosecutor%20Announces%20Decision%20in%20Lansing%20Police%20Shooting.htm
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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Rolf]

I bailed a buddy out on a DUI, there was some scheduling issue between
his lawyer and the courts and he was a no show for the first hearing.
This was all worked out but I made the mistake of listing my parents on
the form. These jackholes had the GALL to call my MOTHER at 3am in the
morning, when I complained about it they got "hardcore" and threatened
to break down the door at my parents house. I told them to feel free to
my mom is a shotgun wielding granny and I know plenty of good lawyers.
Buncha asshats. Everytime I hear of a bounty hunter getting shot I feel
no remorse.

-Rolf

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> You know, I have always been quite uncomfortable with the notion of a bounty
> hunter. I'm surprised they're legal.
>
> I do like "Dog" though. He's just a softy.
>
> Brian
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Rolf wrote:
>> 
>>> Of course none of this matters if you are a bounty hunter.
>>>   
>> A while back there was a story in the news. Girl#1 (not on the lam)
>> is hiding out with boyfriend (who skipped out on probation) in a motel.
>> Bounty hunters (looking for girl#2, no relation to girl#1) almost get
>> inside by impersonating police, but they slam the door. Then a bounty
>> hunter tries to break in through a window.
>>
>> Boyfriend pulls a gun on him. He runs off and calls the cops, tells
>> them that a black guy with a gun is holding a white girl hostage.
>> "hostage" crisis ends with the cops storming the motel room and
>> shooting boyfriend in the head. AFAIK, no charges filed against
>> bounty hunters for impersonating cops or attempted B&E of an occupied
>> dwelling.
>>
>> http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080302/NEWS01/803020681/1225/LANSING01
>>
>> http://www.co.genesee.mi.us/Prosecutors/News-%20Prosecutor%20Announces%20Decision%20in%20Lansing%20Police%20Shooting.htm
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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Mitch Haley]

Rolf wrote:
> Everytime I hear of a bounty hunter getting shot I feel no remorse.

On that story I linked, where the bounty hunters reported a nonexistant
hostage situation and somebody ended up dying: The more I think about it,
the more I wonder if the BHs were upset that they couldn't get inside
when they had the wrong address, and maybe they decided to make a false
911 call and have the SWAT team clear the motel room for them. I have no
evidence to that effect, but would not put it past them. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[LarryT]

I'm surprised the law that gives the bonty hunters so much leeway hasn;t 
been rewritten by now - I think the one presently in effect goes back to 
pre-civil war days when they were hunting down runaway slaves.  IIRC it was 
challenged in the late 1800s but the law stood -

It's hard to believe we have a law that allows the BHs to get away with 
so much stuff.  If law enforcement can play by the rules, the BHs can also -

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> Rolf wrote:
>> Everytime I hear of a bounty hunter getting shot I feel no remorse.
>
> On that story I linked, where the bounty hunters reported a nonexistant
> hostage situation and somebody ended up dying: The more I think about it,
> the more I wonder if the BHs were upset that they couldn't get inside
> when they had the wrong address, and maybe they decided to make a false
> 911 call and have the SWAT team clear the motel room for them. I have no
> evidence to that effect, but would not put it past them.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Mitch Haley]

LarryT wrote:
> 
> It's hard to believe we have a law that allows the BHs to get away with
> so much stuff.  If law enforcement can play by the rules, the BHs can also -

Who said law enforcement obeys the laws we pay them to enforce?

When it comes to bounty hunters breaking and entering at the wrong
address, remember that cops not only get to break in at the wrong house,
they can fire machine guns indiscriminately in there and none will be
punished. Although there is the case of a Lima, Ohio cop who shot a
woman and her baby after the suspect they were after was already
in handcuffs, and they are actually pressing charges against him. 
If convicted of all charges, the maximum possible sentence is
8 months. I bet he doesn't serve a day, and gets to keep his job. 
I think he shot them eight times. She was just standing there holding
a screaming one year old when he opened fire. So far he's been punished
with two months of paid vacation, and he's still getting paid. 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23679181/

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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[Rolf]

Then again sometimes they are punished. Case of the .38 wielding granny
who was shot by cops that had an illegal no knock warrant. She even
fired a warning shot into the roof after it took them 2 min to pry the
burglar bars off.
http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=96052

-Rolf

Mitch Haley wrote:
> LarryT wrote:
>   
>> It's hard to believe we have a law that allows the BHs to get away with
>> so much stuff.  If law enforcement can play by the rules, the BHs can also -
>> 
>
> Who said law enforcement obeys the laws we pay them to enforce?
>
> When it comes to bounty hunters breaking and entering at the wrong
> address, remember that cops not only get to break in at the wrong house,
> they can fire machine guns indiscriminately in there and none will be
> punished. Although there is the case of a Lima, Ohio cop who shot a
> woman and her baby after the suspect they were after was already
> in handcuffs, and they are actually pressing charges against him. 
> If convicted of all charges, the maximum possible sentence is
> 8 months. I bet he doesn't serve a day, and gets to keep his job. 
> I think he shot them eight times. She was just standing there holding
> a screaming one year old when he opened fire. So far he's been punished
> with two months of paid vacation, and he's still getting paid. 
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23679181/
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Re: [MBZ] WTF??

[LarryT]

Well, screaming kids *can* get on peoples nerves.  I know all too well the 
police often make mistakes - one thing the people who are always saying only 
police and military should have guns fail to understand that 11% of the time 
police shoot the wrong person while a concealed permit holder has a record 
of less then 2% - quite a difference.

But back to police and BHs - at least the police are *supposed* to play by 
the rules, the BHs get away with murder - yeah, so do cops - but so do 
parents who kill their kids - and there's few laws to charge then with.

BTW, that baby was probably reaching for a gun.

BTW, speaking of police with machine guns -- I have a *big* problem with 
traiing the police to be military.  There's a difference between the 2 
forces (obviously) - police are *supposed* to apprehend and bring in - 
military are trained to kill so they and fellow soldiers are not killed and 
objectives are met.  Totally different objectives.  Yet when the police are 
put in black special forces outfits with fully auto M16s (why must they be 
fully auto?) and face masks/helmets, they begin to think like a green beret.

And punishment for police officers should be the same as for regular people. 
BTW, ever notice how parents kill their kids and get 6 months in jail? 
Seems to happen a lot -

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> LarryT wrote:
>>
>> It's hard to believe we have a law that allows the BHs to get away 
>> with
>> so much stuff.  If law enforcement can play by the rules, the BHs can 
>> also -
>
> Who said law enforcement obeys the laws we pay them to enforce?
>
> When it comes to bounty hunters breaking and entering at the wrong
> address, remember that cops not only get to break in at the wrong house,
> they can fire machine guns indiscriminately in there and none will be
> punished. Although there is the case of a Lima, Ohio cop who shot a
> woman and her baby after the suspect they were after was already
> in handcuffs, and they are actually pressing charges against him.
> If convicted of all charges, the maximum possible sentence is
> 8 months. I bet he doesn't serve a day, and gets to keep his job.
> I think he shot them eight times. She was just standing there holding
> a screaming one year old when he opened fire. So far he's been punished
> with two months of paid vacation, and he's still getting paid.
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23679181/
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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:29:49 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL-1972-mercedes-280-SEL-4-5_W0QQitemZ110443183369QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item19b6ed3d09

Well, he has good feedback. The pictures with the people's head blocked
out are a little wierd, though.

$785 isn't a bad price if you want a '72 280SEL.


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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Bob Rentfro]

The dude looks like a more angular Jack of Jack-in-the-Box.

Bob

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:29:49 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
>  wrote:
>
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL-1972-mercedes-280-SEL-4-5_W0QQitemZ110443183369QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item19b6ed3d09
>
> Well, he has good feedback. The pictures with the people's head blocked
> out are a little wierd, though.
>
> $785 isn't a bad price if you want a '72 280SEL.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yea, I was more thinking it strange the pictures.

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:29:49 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL-1972-mercedes-280-SEL-4-5_W0QQitemZ110443183369QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item19b6ed3d09



Well, he has good feedback. The pictures with the people's head blocked
out are a little wierd, though.

$785 isn't a bad price if you want a '72 280SEL.


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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[winmutt]

He could be a DEA agent or something like that.

-Rolf

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Yea, I was more thinking it strange the pictures.

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:29:49 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL-1972-mercedes-280-SEL-4-5_W0QQitemZ110443183369QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item19b6ed3d09 




Well, he has good feedback. The pictures with the people's head blocked
out are a little wierd, though.

$785 isn't a bad price if you want a '72 280SEL.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[E M]

That fact you can see the grass through the wheel well in the trunk makes it
look like serious money to bring back.  Wonder how much time passed between
the pics of it sitting, full of pine needles, and when it was snapped in the
parking lot ?

Ed
300E

2009/10/14 winmutt 

> He could be a DEA agent or something like that.
>
> -Rolf
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
>> Yea, I was more thinking it strange the pictures.
>>
>> Craig McCluskey wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:29:49 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL-1972-mercedes-280-SEL-4-5_W0QQitemZ110443183369QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item19b6ed3d09


>>>
>>> Well, he has good feedback. The pictures with the people's head blocked
>>> out are a little wierd, though.
>>>
>>> $785 isn't a bad price if you want a '72 280SEL.
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I want a spare for my' 85 CA version 300td wagon!!
On Sep 28, 2013 2:01 PM, "Frederick Moir"  wrote:

> Original to the cars, yes.
> Pay for it, NO!
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-DIESEL-300D-EXHAUST-PARTICLE-TRAP-OXIDIZER-603-142-0294-/271280995868
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> Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Jim Cathey]

The TO: Intention: A; Execution: F

But you can't win your concourse without it!

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Frederick Moir]

Jim, et al.
That will never be a problem for me.
 
Fred Moir
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>
> From: Jim Cathey 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?
> 
>
>The TO: Intention: A; Execution: F
>
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Craig]

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Frederick Moir
 wrote:

> Original to the cars, yes.
> Pay for it, NO!
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-DIESEL-300D-EXHAUST-PARTICLE-TRAP-OXIDIZER-603-142-0294-/271280995868

How about asking him about the trap oxidizer recall and the fact they are
no longer used? Won't that show up on the web page?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Scott Ritchey]

So, That's what they look like!

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:02 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] WTF?
> 
> Original to the cars, yes.
> Pay for it, NO!
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-DIESEL-300D-EXHAUST-
> PARTICLE-TRAP-OXIDIZER-603-142-0294-/271280995868
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[WILTON]

Me, either.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?


Jim, et al.
That will never be a problem for me.

Fred Moir
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Diesel preferred.





From: Jim Cathey 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?


The TO: Intention: A; Execution: F

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Kevin Slater]

Wow, I should have parted out my 87 300td.
On Sep 28, 2013 2:58 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> I want a spare for my' 85 CA version 300td wagon!!
> On Sep 28, 2013 2:01 PM, "Frederick Moir"  wrote:
>
> > Original to the cars, yes.
> > Pay for it, NO!
> >
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-DIESEL-300D-EXHAUST-PARTICLE-TRAP-OXIDIZER-603-142-0294-/271280995868
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Sunil Hari]

Sure, like i'm going to hand the guy $700 for a scolding.

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>
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  I emailed him asking what it was he was selling. 
Funny thing is, he seems to have 4 or 5 of those same auctions going.


Sunil Hari wrote:


Sure, like i'm going to hand the guy $700 for a scolding.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Mitch Haley]

If he doesn't get his money in three days, he'll give you a neg.
If he doesn't feel like shipping until 7 days after he receives
payment, don't you dare think about giving HIM a neg. Sounds
fair to me. I could have sworn it was BigBaboon, but I think
he's in Commiefornia, this joker here has a Chicago location.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

is bigbafoon still around?

Mitch Haley wrote:


If he doesn't get his money in three days, he'll give you a neg.
If he doesn't feel like shipping until 7 days after he receives
payment, don't you dare think about giving HIM a neg. Sounds
fair to me. I could have sworn it was BigBaboon, but I think
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Mitch Haley]

Mitch Haley wrote:
>  I could have sworn it was BigBaboon, but 
>  this joker here has a Chicago location.

Now I get it, it's Ideal Auto. I've heard mixed
opinions about this guy. IIRC, if you catch him
in a good mood and he sends you the right stuff
you do OK. If he screws up, it's your fault.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Steve MacSween]

I can sympathize with him a bit. Not for no reason has eBay now supplied a
disclaimer that vendors are not responsible for service times on delivery
(read: postal service delays).

I have found people are getting insane. I have had buyers e-mail me TWO days
after they paid, asking where the item is. People must think all eBay
vendors live above postal offices or something.

Mac

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> If he doesn't get his money in three days, he'll give you a neg.
> If he doesn't feel like shipping until 7 days after he receives
> payment, don't you dare think about giving HIM a neg. Sounds
> fair to me. I could have sworn it was BigBaboon, but I think
> he's in Commiefornia, this joker here has a Chicago location.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Steve MacSween]

Well actually that listing violates eBay rules by a mile. If someone
complains he will get the boot.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  I emailed him asking what it was he was selling.
> Funny thing is, he seems to have 4 or 5 of those same auctions going.
> 
> Sunil Hari wrote:
> 
>> Sure, like i'm going to hand the guy $700 for a scolding.
>> 
>> On 12/28/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Mitch Haley]

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> is bigbafoon still around?

I just saw a revival of the Bigbafoon f***ed me again
thread on another forum today. Seems he was exchanging
nasty feedback with his customers on a tool selling site. 

Here it is:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?t=83554&page=12

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=ebs1948&Dirn=Received+by

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Mitch Haley]

Ideal's branching out, not just MBZ parts anymore.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7734298269

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Brian Baker]

Those would be worth some money if the seller would have cleaned her 
boyfriends vomit from them before taking the photo.

Brian from Columbia MO
82 240D 289,3XX (currently buzzing happily along)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?



Ideal's branching out, not just MBZ parts anymore.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7734298269

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Ooooh I like them and in my size too.
Although they say driving in high heels is dangerous, I have never had any 
problems.


Hendrik

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?



Those would be worth some money if the seller would have cleaned her
boyfriends vomit from them before taking the photo.
Brian from Columbia MO
82 240D 289,3XX (currently buzzing happily along)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?



Ideal's branching out, not just MBZ parts anymore.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7734298269




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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Tom Scordato]

All I know when someone writes add in red caps they are SCREAMING AT ME! and 
my ears hurt.


Regards Tom Scordato
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Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:47 PM
Subject: [MBZ] WTF?



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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Lee Levitt]

On Wed Dec 28 20:38:38 PST 2005, Hendrik Riessen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ooooh I like them and in my size too.
> Although they say driving in high heels is dangerous, I have 
> never had any problems.
> 
> Hendrik


Try ice skates. Now *that's* a challenge!

Lee

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Lee Levitt]

On Wed Dec 28 20:38:38 PST 2005, Hendrik Riessen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ooooh I like them and in my size too.
> Although they say driving in high heels is dangerous, I have 
> never had any problems.
> 
> Hendrik


Try ice skates. Now *that's* a challenge!

Lee

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

My policy is up to 14 business days for delivery.  Most of the time 
stuff is shipped out right away but sometimes there are delays for 
whatever reason.  But yes, I have people all the time emailing me, where 
are my parts.  I just repond back with a generic per auction bla bla bla


Steve MacSween wrote:


I can sympathize with him a bit. Not for no reason has eBay now supplied a
disclaimer that vendors are not responsible for service times on delivery
(read: postal service delays).

I have found people are getting insane. I have had buyers e-mail me TWO days
after they paid, asking where the item is. People must think all eBay
vendors live above postal offices or something.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



If he doesn't get his money in three days, he'll give you a neg.
If he doesn't feel like shipping until 7 days after he receives
payment, don't you dare think about giving HIM a neg. Sounds
fair to me. I could have sworn it was BigBaboon, but I think
he's in Commiefornia, this joker here has a Chicago location.




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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well that one dude in OKC is still selling after MANY people on this 
list complained about his shills bidding up his stuff.


Steve MacSween wrote:


Well actually that listing violates eBay rules by a mile. If someone
complains he will get the boot.

Mac


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http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Jim Cathey]

Well that one dude in OKC is still selling after MANY people on this
list complained about his shills bidding up his stuff.


A shill can't hurt you if you never bid more than you think an
item is worth.  Being able to wave good-bye to an item is a crucial
tool to have in auctions.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

The whole problem with ebay these days is it's frequented by people with 
more money than brains. They have no idea what auction means. They just 
keep bidding way over retail value for items sight unseen with no 
warrenty.They think because it's an auction that theyre getting a deal. 
all they are doing is running prices up way past reality for auction goods.
I had one customer, a lady bought a volvo and had it shipped cross 
country, the thing and an insane multitude of problems, but she waited 
too long to try to remedy with the seller and was stuck with it She 
didn't have a clue as to what she had done, the seller just made it so 
easy to part with her money and she bought it). Then she brings it to me 
and I basicaly wind up doing charity work on it so she can try to recoup 
her loss. She bought it from one of the many major chrysler  dealers 
selling on ebay.


-Robert

Jim Cathey wrote:

Well that one dude in OKC is still selling after MANY people on this
list complained about his shills bidding up his stuff.



A shill can't hurt you if you never bid more than you think an
item is worth.  Being able to wave good-bye to an item is a crucial
tool to have in auctions.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The whole problem with ebay these days is it's frequented by people with
> more money than brains. They have no idea what auction means. They just
> keep bidding way over retail value for items sight unseen with no
> warrenty.They think because it's an auction that theyre getting a deal.

You are completely correct. The same problem exists with 'live' auctions,
particularly the ones held by the itinerant companies who rent a big hotel
ballroom on Boxing Day or Labour Day and advertise 'inventory blowout' or
such. The people who go there are often paying close to retail, or even
over, with no real recourse or customer service (and they even buy stuff
like electronics and PCs).

The eBay psychology is interesting. For example, my biggest headaches (and I
mean HUGE) have been with customers buying late-model Volvo stuff. They are
beyond not having a clue. The vintage Volvo crowd are absolutely tip-top
people, love dealing with them, but the people with the more recent cars are
just plain lost. I mean, how can you purchase a piece of trim using Buy It
Now, FIVE DAYS before the end of the listing, then e-mail someone and say,
"oh, sorry but I forgot my interior is beige not black"?? This happened not
once but twice.

Mercedes stuff is harder to sell, but I rarely hear a peep back, either
during or after the transaction.

Oh, and I hate to say this but Canadians are the absolute worst. I have
nearly reached the point of not shipping to my own country. I kid you not.
No wonder e-commerce never took off up here as it did in the U.S.

Mac
Aylmer, Quebec
'60 220s / '82 240d (x2!!) / '82 300sd
 

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Thats no joke about canadians.  Not you, but it seems quite a few I sell 
to bitch and moan about something.


Steve MacSween wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



The whole problem with ebay these days is it's frequented by people with
more money than brains. They have no idea what auction means. They just
keep bidding way over retail value for items sight unseen with no
warrenty.They think because it's an auction that theyre getting a deal.



You are completely correct. The same problem exists with 'live' auctions,
particularly the ones held by the itinerant companies who rent a big hotel
ballroom on Boxing Day or Labour Day and advertise 'inventory blowout' or
such. The people who go there are often paying close to retail, or even
over, with no real recourse or customer service (and they even buy stuff
like electronics and PCs).

The eBay psychology is interesting. For example, my biggest headaches (and I
mean HUGE) have been with customers buying late-model Volvo stuff. They are
beyond not having a clue. The vintage Volvo crowd are absolutely tip-top
people, love dealing with them, but the people with the more recent cars are
just plain lost. I mean, how can you purchase a piece of trim using Buy It
Now, FIVE DAYS before the end of the listing, then e-mail someone and say,
"oh, sorry but I forgot my interior is beige not black"?? This happened not
once but twice.

Mercedes stuff is harder to sell, but I rarely hear a peep back, either
during or after the transaction.

Oh, and I hate to say this but Canadians are the absolute worst. I have
nearly reached the point of not shipping to my own country. I kid you not.
No wonder e-commerce never took off up here as it did in the U.S.

Mac
Aylmer, Quebec
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Jim Cathey]

Thats no joke about canadians.  Not you, but it seems quite a few I 
sell

to bitch and moan about something.


Dare I suggest that it is the inevitable consequence of a Nanny State?
Expect more such from the US in coming years.  (I'm ducking now!)

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[David Brodbeck]

Steve MacSween wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

The whole problem with ebay these days is it's frequented by people with
more money than brains. They have no idea what auction means. They just
keep bidding way over retail value for items sight unseen with no
warrenty.They think because it's an auction that theyre getting a deal.



You are completely correct. The same problem exists with 'live' auctions,
particularly the ones held by the itinerant companies who rent a big hotel
ballroom on Boxing Day or Labour Day and advertise 'inventory blowout' or
such. The people who go there are often paying close to retail, or even
over, with no real recourse or customer service (and they even buy stuff
like electronics and PCs).
  


I think sometimes people think they're getting a "deal," but I think 
more often people just get caught up in the competition.  People hate to 
lose "their item" to someone else, so they'll pay more than they should 
to win the auction.


The rest is just pure capitalism at work.  eBay is the closest thing out 
there to the friction-free capitalist markets talked about in economics 
textbooks.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Dave M.]

Sadly, no, he will not get the boot. He's a Power Seller, which means
he can do anything short of selling crack on eBay and get away with
it. See, eBay makes money off these jokers, no matter how badly they
screw their victims (er,I mean customers). That's why Big Buffoon is
still around after years of continuous problems. He consistently gets
eBay to remove a lot, if not most, of his negative feedbacks. Bottom
line, eBay "officials" are not our friends - they are interested in
making money. Extreme care should be taken with any seller that has a
questionable feedback record.

BTW, this Ideal bozo has a cheaper scolding here - save 90% over his other rant:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8025646444

I wonder if he has any idea how much those listings are costing him!


-Dave M.


> --
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:08:15 -0500
> From: Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?
>
>
> Well actually that listing violates eBay rules by a mile. If someone
> complains he will get the boot.
>
> Mac

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[TimothyPilgrim]

Really? We're that bad? The only time I've bitched and moaned was in
trying to get something shipped here by regular post to avoid the
raping that UPS subjects us to in brokerage fees.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 12/29/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh, and I hate to say this but Canadians are the absolute worst. I have
> nearly reached the point of not shipping to my own country. I kid you not.
> No wonder e-commerce never took off up here as it did in the U.S.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[David Brodbeck]

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

Really? We're that bad? The only time I've bitched and moaned was in
trying to get something shipped here by regular post to avoid the
raping that UPS subjects us to in brokerage fees.
  


I don't mind that, personally, but I can see how it'd be a problem for 
businesses that ship UPS exclusively.  It'd mean extra trouble/expense 
for them -- having to go to the post office instead of letting the stuff 
go out with their scheduled UPS pickup.


It does get my goat when foreign buyers try to insist I lie on the 
customs forms to save them a few bucks.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[David Brodbeck]

Tom Scordato wrote:
All I know when someone writes add in red caps they are SCREAMING AT ME! and 
my ears hurt.
  


I consider it a big red flag when a seller only wants to accept Western 
Union Bidpay.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[andrew strasfogel]

What I really don't understand is how someone who SHOUTS and WARNS in RED
ALL CAPS
about people who don't pay in 3 days for buying  NOTHING can have a 99+
feedback rating.  WTF indeed!


On 12/28/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If he doesn't get his money in three days, he'll give you a neg.
> If he doesn't feel like shipping until 7 days after he receives
> payment, don't you dare think about giving HIM a neg. Sounds
> fair to me. I could have sworn it was BigBaboon, but I think
> he's in Commiefornia, this joker here has a Chicago location.
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Hans Neureiter]

A new war is on: Feedback. Dont bad feedback me, Buster. I feedback you
worse!

On 12/29/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What I really don't understand is how someone who SHOUTS and WARNS in RED
> ALL CAPS
> about people who don't pay in 3 days for buying  NOTHING can have a 99+
> feedback rating.  WTF indeed!
>
>
> On 12/28/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If he doesn't get his money in three days, he'll give you a neg.
> > If he doesn't feel like shipping until 7 days after he receives
> > payment, don't you dare think about giving HIM a neg. Sounds
> > fair to me. I could have sworn it was BigBaboon, but I think
> > he's in Commiefornia, this joker here has a Chicago location.
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

The whole feedback system is ajoke, they need to do something to stop 
retalitory feedback. I've bought two vehicles on there where the seller 
lied through their teeth and they negd the daylights out of me after I 
left WAY to nice a statement on their neg feedback.. My crime, immidiate 
payment ...WTF???
You cant give an honest feedback without getting a retalitory  neg from 
a crook. it's rediculous.


--Robert

Hans Neureiter wrote:

A new war is on: Feedback. Dont bad feedback me, Buster. I feedback you
worse!

On 12/29/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

What I really don't understand is how someone who SHOUTS and WARNS in RED
ALL CAPS
about people who don't pay in 3 days for buying  NOTHING can have a 99+
feedback rating.  WTF indeed!


On 12/28/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If he doesn't get his money in three days, he'll give you a neg.
If he doesn't feel like shipping until 7 days after he receives
payment, don't you dare think about giving HIM a neg. Sounds
fair to me. I could have sworn it was BigBaboon, but I think
he's in Commiefornia, this joker here has a Chicago location.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[David Brodbeck]

Hans Neureiter wrote:
> A new war is on: Feedback. Dont bad feedback me, Buster. I feedback you
> worse!

I gave bad feedback once and got it in return.  Worst part is, it dinged
me worse because it's a higher percentage of my rating.  The seller's
account got removed, eventually, but eBay left their negative feedback
on my account.

Now if I don't have anything nice to say, I just don't leave feedback.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[LT Don]

That has been my philosophy. I have left neutral, once, I think. And I never
leave feedback until the other party has first. I'm sitting at 151 feedbacks
/ 100% positive.

On 12/30/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Now if I don't have anything nice to say, I just don't leave feedback.
>

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I dont leave feedback till its left for me, does that make me a sleezebag?

Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote:



You'll notice though that the sleezebag sellers will never leave 
feedback until you do, those clowns are just laying in wait to retaliate 
for what they know is coming for their lieing.


-Robert



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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Lee Levitt]

Hey, when he has a listing for something that doesn't exist, so that people
know to contact him directly, Ebay is not making very much on the listing...

Lee 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave M.
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?
> 
> Sadly, no, he will not get the boot. He's a Power Seller, 
> which means he can do anything short of selling crack on eBay 
> and get away with it. See, eBay makes money off these jokers, 
> no matter how badly they screw their victims (er,I mean 
> customers). That's why Big Buffoon is still around after 
> years of continuous problems. He consistently gets eBay to 
> remove a lot, if not most, of his negative feedbacks. Bottom 
> line, eBay "officials" are not our friends - they are 
> interested in making money. Extreme care should be taken with 
> any seller that has a questionable feedback record.
> 
> BTW, this Ideal bozo has a cheaper scolding here - save 90% 
> over his other rant:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=
> 8025646444
> 
> I wonder if he has any idea how much those listings are costing him!
> 
> 
> -Dave M.
> 
> 
> > ------------------
> > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:08:15 -0500
> > From: Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?
> >
> >
> > Well actually that listing violates eBay rules by a mile. 
> If someone 
> > complains he will get the boot.
> >
> > Mac
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Dave M.]

Then I'm a sleazebag too. :) I finally stopped leaving feedback (when
I'm selling something) until the buyer leaves positive feedback for
me. I tell them right up front to leave feedback for me if they're
happy, and email me immediately if they're not so we can work out a
resolution. Half the time I get no feedback at all, and I'm sure not
going to pad their positives while they give me nothing!

As a buyer, I leave feedback immediately if it's positive, and I don't
bother leaving negatives or neutrals - not worth the risk of losing my
100% positive record for some retaliatory scumbag. I'd attempt the
'feedback snipe' but eBay can't even commit to a firm 90 day limit, so
the scumbag may still be able to retaliate even if you time it to
89.99 days.

+dm

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> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:40:37 -0600
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?
>
>
> I dont leave feedback till its left for me, does that make me a sleezebag?

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Dave M.]

True, eBay isn't making much... but the listing fees (regardless of if
the item sells) are based on opening bid price. He'd same some $$ if
the opening bid was $0.99 instead of $600. It makes no sense to me for
him to list more than one, with a useless title, at a high price. Very
weird.

=)

> --
> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:21:29 -0500
> From: "Lee Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?
>
>
> Hey, when he has a listing for something that doesn't exist, so that people
> know to contact him directly, Ebay is not making very much on the listing...
>
> Lee

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Thats my exact policy.  YOu leave somebody good feedback then they get a 
wild hair up their ass, or cant read auction terms and leave neg just 
because they can.  Or, you leave people good feedback and they dont 
bother leaving you feedback.  My thought is that if they want good 
feedback, they need to leave it.  IF I am the buyer I always leave good 
feedback right away.  Half the time I still never get any in return.


Dave M. wrote:


Then I'm a sleazebag too. :) I finally stopped leaving feedback (when
I'm selling something) until the buyer leaves positive feedback for
me. I tell them right up front to leave feedback for me if they're
happy, and email me immediately if they're not so we can work out a
resolution. Half the time I get no feedback at all, and I'm sure not
going to pad their positives while they give me nothing!

As a buyer, I leave feedback immediately if it's positive, and I don't
bother leaving negatives or neutrals - not worth the risk of losing my
100% positive record for some retaliatory scumbag. I'd attempt the
'feedback snipe' but eBay can't even commit to a firm 90 day limit, so
the scumbag may still be able to retaliate even if you time it to
89.99 days.

+dm



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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:40:37 -0600
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?


I dont leave feedback till its left for me, does that make me a sleezebag?



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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yes it does. I think ebay protocol dictates that the seller leaves feedback 
after receiving payment and the buyer leaves feedback after receiving the 
goods. Otherwise it turns into intimidation.


Hendrik

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I dont leave feedback till its left for me, does that make me a sleezebag?

Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote:



You'll notice though that the sleezebag sellers will never leave
feedback until you do, those clowns are just laying in wait to retaliate
for what they know is coming for their lieing.

-Robert



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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[David Brodbeck]

Hendrik Riessen wrote:
> Yes it does. I think ebay protocol dictates that the seller leaves feedback 
> after receiving payment and the buyer leaves feedback after receiving the 
> goods. Otherwise it turns into intimidation.

I've literally never seen a transaction go that way.  Generally the
buyer leaves feedback once they're satisfied (or not) with the
merchandise, then the seller leaves feedback.  You really don't know
whether someone's a "good buyer" or not until they've gotten the stuff.
 Just because they paid doesn't mean they won't try to weasel out of it
later.

Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[OK Don]

Most of my transactions have worked that way - but I'm an infrequent
eBay'er -- only up to 72.

On 12/30/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hendrik Riessen wrote:
> > Yes it does. I think ebay protocol dictates that the seller leaves feedback
> > after receiving payment and the buyer leaves feedback after receiving the
> > goods. Otherwise it turns into intimidation.
>
> I've literally never seen a transaction go that way.  Generally the
> buyer leaves feedback once they're satisfied (or not) with the
> merchandise, then the seller leaves feedback.  You really don't know
> whether someone's a "good buyer" or not until they've gotten the stuff.
>  Just because they paid doesn't mean they won't try to weasel out of it
> later.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Hendrik Riessen]

I have had a couple like that just recently, at the mo I've bought a couple 
of clear indicator assemblies and the seller has left feedback already, even 
though the indicators (according to Fedex) have not even left the states.
A "decent" seller should leave feedback once he/she has what they are after 
(money). Otherwise they are withholding feedback to try and intimidate the 
buyer into leaving good feedback. Unfortunately however that is the way the 
feedback system is going.
Anyway ebay is full of con artists at best and downright crooks at worst and 
every vehicle in which the A/C is not working just needs a recharge:-)


Hendrik

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Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF?



Hendrik Riessen wrote:
Yes it does. I think ebay protocol dictates that the seller leaves 
feedback

after receiving payment and the buyer leaves feedback after receiving the
goods. Otherwise it turns into intimidation.


I've literally never seen a transaction go that way.  Generally the
buyer leaves feedback once they're satisfied (or not) with the
merchandise, then the seller leaves feedback.  You really don't know
whether someone's a "good buyer" or not until they've gotten the stuff.
Just because they paid doesn't mean they won't try to weasel out of it
later.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[David Brodbeck]

Hendrik Riessen wrote:
> A "decent" seller should leave feedback once he/she has what they are after 
> (money). Otherwise they are withholding feedback to try and intimidate the 
> buyer into leaving good feedback.

I guess I feel like I'd be shirking my duty if I left feedback
immediately upon getting the money.  There's more to being a good buyer
than paying, though admittedly that's most of it. ;)  Until they have
the goods, you don't know if they're going to complain about stuff they
were already told about in the listing, etc.

What I'll usually do is wait a couple weeks, then leave feedback if I
haven't heard anything.  Often the buyer has already left feedback at
that point, but if not, I don't wait for them to do so.  I think that's
reasonable.

Re: [MBZ] wtf???

[DANTERR9]

That does not make much sense- A turbo heat wrap?  The diesel exhaust does 
not get that hot to begin with and this stuff could cause the oil and bearing 
in 
the turbo to run hotter.  Plus this crazy intake system with that small air 
filter could not possibly breath as well as the big stock filter?  It also 
takes in hot air from the engine bay instead of cool outside air as the stock 
setup does.  His oil reclaim system looks too small to work well... Who 
knows...  
I bet this stuff works as well as the fuel saving magnets  -Dan


In a message dated 7/13/2005 11:01:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7985433939&categ
ory=38634&rd=1
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Re: [MBZ] wtf???

[Steve MacSween]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7985433939&categ
> ory=38634&rd=1

Well now that is a piece of kit that promises to nicely complement the other
useless thing in the first pic, the K & N cylinder wall sandblaster.

The turbo performance crowd use heat wraps on their bling bling cars. I
really don't see it making a shred of difference on a daily driver
turbodiesel, unless you routinely pound the daylights out of it all day in
stop and go driving in a really hot environment.

For those guys who build up their turbodiesels, however, like the GM and
Ford pickup performance crowd, I could see it making some sense.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] wtf???

[Rich Thomas]

I think it's the red rattle can spray paint that really increases 
performance, but probably not as good as some neon color, maybe with 
some blue LEDs to light it up, and an "R" sticker too...


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7985433939&category=38634&rd=1 

RE: [MBZ] wtf???

[Tarek Elshenawy]

The best part about this is that having a hot engine bay is beneficial to
the engine. Anyone who has taken thermodynamics and heat transfer would know
that the hotter an engine runs, the more efficient it is. The only think you
would want to be cold is the air going into the engine because it is more
dense. The whole idea behind this is silly...

Tarek

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>
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