Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
Thanks Mitch! Those Remington 22 LRs look great! One of the comments from a buyer says I have hit cow patties easily out to 300 yards I never imagind using CPs for target practice! He goes on to dscribe the splt being louder than the round firing! Also, at $3.50 for 50 they're pretty inexpensive - Thx agn - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g LarryT wrote: I have some subsonic .22s also - unfortunately they're .22 Shorts so accuracy beyond 10' is not very good. Try these: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=972593t=11082005 http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=678232t=11082005 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He goes on to dscribe the splt being louder than the round firing! But the brick of Remington subsonics I bought don't seem all that quiet. They are strong enough to cycle the action in my Marlin 60 and my friend's 10/22, but from a few feet away I can't really tell a lot of difference between the subs and the high velocity stuff in the Marlin, the Ruger, or even my 26 target rifle. They go bang (unlike CCI mini caps, which go pfft), but there's no supersonic crack echoing back from the woods like I'd get with full power 22LR. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think he added a zero, after 100 yards .22LR performance drops RAPIDLY. I forget the drop at 100 yards but its substantial. At 300 yards you'd really be just lobbing bullets toward the target in a huge arc. The CCI subsonics are vastly superior to the Remington or were 10 years ago the last time I played with them a lot. In the early '90s when I was shooting a lot Remington had something like a 10% misfire rate where other brands were 1% or less. When I was shooting smallbore target competitively I was firing around 1000 rounds a week, 10% was totally unacceptable... CCI was selling some .22 rounds that were so cheap they were loose packed but were much more reliable and accurate than more expensive Remington ammo... For fun subsonic try http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=163096 very very quiet. Of course in competition we shot much more expensive Eley target ammo... -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:25:17 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Thanks Mitch! Those Remington 22 LRs look great! One of the comments from a buyer says I have hit cow patties easily out to 300 yards I never imagind using CPs for target practice! He goes on to dscribe the splt being louder than the round firing! Also, at $3.50 for 50 they're pretty inexpensive - Thx agn - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g LarryT wrote: I have some subsonic .22s also - unfortunately they're .22 Shorts so accuracy beyond 10' is not very good. Try these: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=972593t=11082005 http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=678232t=11082005 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (rim fire ammo)
At 02:50 PM 6/21/2008, Curt wrote: I think he added a zero, after 100 yards .22LR performance drops RAPIDLY. I forget the drop at 100 yards but its substantial. About 8 for standard velocity IIRC. At 300 yards you'd really be just lobbing bullets toward the target in a huge arc. True. 50 yards has always been accepted as the 22LR hunting limit, both for accuracy and small game killing power. (snip) For fun subsonic try http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=163096 Beware. I bought some of the Colibri 20gr and noticed when reading the box they are only for handguns. When fired in long-barreled firearms such as rifles, bullets may remain lodged inside the long barrel. It is interesting that 22LR ammunition remains so cheap. You can buy those same crappy Remington 22s for $1.90 a box that I paid $1.25 for sixty years ago at the local hardware store. That was 3 or 4 hours of lawn mowing for a kid back then. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Hearing a melody is hearing, having heard, and being about to hear, all at once. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If the warning is ignored, and the Colibri CB bullet doesn't leave the barrel of the rifle, couldn't you just push it back, or out the front (depending on the rifle) with a cleaning rod? Then the only risk is remembering to verify that the barrel is clear before loading the next round (?). What are good, in-expensive, bolt action 22RF rifles to look for? My pump action Remington is nice for hunting, but the chamber if not readily accessible. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He goes on to dscribe the splt being louder than the round firing! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What are good, in-expensive, bolt action 22RF rifles to look for? My pump action Remington is nice for hunting, but the chamber if not readily accessible. The days when you could drop $29.88 at a Kmart for a .22 bolt Marlin are long gone. This thing looks just like my Brother's $30 rifle from the early 1970's: http://personalsecurityzone.com/cgi-win/order/prodlist.exe/PSZ/?Template=ProdDetail.htmProductID=19729 And this is more affordable: http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/sportster.aspx ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This looks a lot like my HR 410 shotgun! That might make a really nice 22. And this is more affordable: http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/sportster.aspx -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (rim fire ammo)
Interesting I've shot a lot of Colibri and Super Colibri (can't remember the difference) over the last few years. Thats pretty much all my Dad keeps around the house to shoot squirrels with. -Curt --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (rim fire ammo) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 5:18 PM At 02:50 PM 6/21/2008, Curt wrote: I think he added a zero, after 100 yards .22LR performance drops RAPIDLY. I forget the drop at 100 yards but its substantial. About 8 for standard velocity IIRC. At 300 yards you'd really be just lobbing bullets toward the target in a huge arc. True. 50 yards has always been accepted as the 22LR hunting limit, both for accuracy and small game killing power. (snip) For fun subsonic try http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=163096 Beware. I bought some of the Colibri 20gr and noticed when reading the box they are only for handguns. When fired in long-barreled firearms such as rifles, bullets may remain lodged inside the long barrel. It is interesting that 22LR ammunition remains so cheap. You can buy those same crappy Remington 22s for $1.90 a box that I paid $1.25 for sixty years ago at the local hardware store. That was 3 or 4 hours of lawn mowing for a kid back then. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Hearing a melody is hearing, having heard, and being about to hear, all at once. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Remington subsonics are garbage... A google search shows they run very close to the speed of sound, 1000fps or more... The slower, the quieter. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 He goes on to dscribe the splt being louder than the round firing! But the brick of Remington subsonics I bought don't seem all that quiet. They are strong enough to cycle the action in my Marlin 60 and my friend's 10/22, but from a few feet away I can't really tell a lot of difference between the subs and the high velocity stuff in the Marlin, the Ruger, or even my 26 target rifle. They go bang (unlike CCI mini caps, which go pfft), but there's no supersonic crack echoing back from the woods like I'd get with full power 22LR. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sure, the important thing is to KNOW when the bullet hasn't come out of the barrel... For a cheap rifle, just about anything in a bolt action will do nicely. Single shot rifles will tend to be less expensive... New England Arms makes a nice break action single shot but the stock sights are ABYSMAL. Dad has one, the front sight is really fat, I was trying to shoot a squirrel with it last month and I could even SEE the stupid squirrel beyond the front sight. I missed him twice before I switched to a Polish made training rifle with which I dispatched the stupid squirrel on the first shot... My Dad has been collecting boys rifles for a couple years now. He's specializing in the very small inexpensive ones that could be bought like in the back of a comic book. The spread in quality and features is amazing... -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:26:44 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If the warning is ignored, and the Colibri CB bullet doesn't leave the barrel of the rifle, couldn't you just push it back, or out the front (depending on the rifle) with a cleaning rod? Then the only risk is remembering to verify that the barrel is clear before loading the next round (?). What are good, in-expensive, bolt action 22RF rifles to look for? My pump action Remington is nice for hunting, but the chamber if not readily accessible. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He goes on to dscribe the splt being louder than the round firing! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've found few things he would not eat [celery comes to mind] so I suspect rabbit would suit him. I wouldn't mind a smaller feed bill for the family either. He already spends some of his outdoor time chasing them, but they are smart enough to stay near a fence for quick escape. I'm not all that interested in cleaning up the leftovers from my yard, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Yeah thought of that but then you have to go into the neighbors garden to get the evidence without being seen and if that works all it takes is for someone to see that poor little bunny flopping around from a poor shot, I'm not that good anymore, and the jig is up. Hey Bill doesn't that little puppy of yours like rabbit? Just tell him it tastes like chicken! Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:30:36 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] MG wrote: As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in the country. A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and make it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the silenced pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make virtually no noise, just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I may need the squirrel recipes if they get into the attic again or food costs continue to rise. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Bill, I have a few recipes somewhere, even very old ones from a book from the 1800s. For those little critters you can use one of those 1000 or 1200fps air rifles. The little rats don't make any noise if you don't hit them right so it's a lot easier to get another shot it. Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:00:01 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mom came out yesterday and told me she was getting an awful racket out of her chimney [also covered with wire mesh], so I assume they are trying another assault on the attic. Good recipes for squirrel? A few hundred $$ later I have had it with those pests. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts does not make much noise either. My younger son picks off squirrels out at the lake because my mother does not want them in the attic etc. It is too close in to town and we are not legally permitted to discharge firearms so we keep it pretty quiet. I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer hitting the cartridge. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rick Knoble wrote: I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer hitting the cartridge. Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those? I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very good. I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but there's little difference in sound from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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CBs are for short range. Should be ok for 25 yd or so. I used them to shoot pests in the barn. They won't put holes through things. Anything I ever shot at with a CB was dead. BB caps are a different story. Are you talking about BB caps? they have a round .22 inch round ball. Not so accurate. A CB is essentially a .22 short powered by the primer, or maybe a little more. A very short powder charge, anyway. At 10:19 AM 6/19/2008, you wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer hitting the cartridge. Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those? I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very good. I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but there's little difference in sound from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those? I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very good. I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but there's little difference in sound from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle. Not bad accuracy from about 20-25 yards. You have to sight them in tho'. So slow you can damn near watch the bullet arc toward the target. I am able to kill a 35 lbs. woodchuck at about twenty yards with one shot. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have some subsonic .22s also - unfortunately they're .22 Shorts so accuracy beyond 10' is not very good. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts does not make much noise either. My younger son picks off squirrels out at the lake because my mother does not want them in the attic etc. It is too close in to town and we are not legally permitted to discharge firearms so we keep it pretty quiet. I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer hitting the cartridge. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LarryT wrote: I have some subsonic .22s also - unfortunately they're .22 Shorts so accuracy beyond 10' is not very good. Try these: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=972593t=11082005 http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=678232t=11082005 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We're not talking minute of accurace here but I bet it'd be no more than 2... I've killed lots of squirrels with CB caps... Next time I get up to visit my folks I'll give 'er a try on paper. -Curt Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:19:10 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Rick Knoble wrote: I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer hitting the cartridge. Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those? I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very good. I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but there's little difference in sound from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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MG wrote: As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in the country. A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and make it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the silenced pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make virtually no noise, just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have wondered about those. With my extreme difficulty in heat and basic dislike of gardening I will need to be a bit hungrier prior to trying to get back the lost grape leaves via rabbit stew. Interesting to think about how much outside [expensive] input into our lives could be cut out if necessary. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g MG wrote: As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in the country. A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and make it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the silenced pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make virtually no noise, just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pay the $10 per/g for the diesel? Ed 300E 2008/6/18 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MG wrote: As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in the country. A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and make it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the silenced pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make virtually no noise, just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy tailed attic destroying rodents with the good PR firm. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pay the $10 per/g for the diesel? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bill R wrote: Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy tailed attic destroying rodents with the good PR firm. Tree rats are OK, as long as they don't try to move into your house. Then it's time for poison and/or rat traps in the attic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Far too likely to have to vacate from the smell of dead varmint with that stuff. I had the soffit vents covered with wire mesh all the way around the house and ended up trapping a few in the attic. Got most of them out by leaving a corner open for a few hours, but one or two would not leave. I heard them climbing down inside the walls to get to the water in the sump pump that drains the AC air handler, then they went down inside the outside walls [cinder block with cocina] and tunneled out by the AC units. A bag of cement discouraged reentry that way, and we have been varmint free for a couple of months. Mom came out yesterday and told me she was getting an awful racket out of her chimney [also covered with wire mesh], so I assume they are trying another assault on the attic. Good recipes for squirrel? A few hundred $$ later I have had it with those pests. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Bill R wrote: Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy tailed attic destroying rodents with the good PR firm. Tree rats are OK, as long as they don't try to move into your house. Then it's time for poison and/or rat traps in the attic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bill R wrote: Good recipes for squirrel? A few hundred $$ later I have had it with those pests. Wooden Victor rat traps 2/$1. Either nail them to the floor or chain them up solidly. You don't want a sq with a trap on his foot falling down a wall cavity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Unfortunately with a house built partly in the early 1900's and tripled in the 1980's there are many parts of the attic that are either not accessible or certainly not where I can get to them. Those seem to be the favorite areas for the squirrels. Academic now as we finally got them out - assuming the wire mesh holds and a full assault down the chimney is avoided. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Bill R wrote: Good recipes for squirrel? A few hundred $$ later I have had it with those pests. Wooden Victor rat traps 2/$1. Either nail them to the floor or chain them up solidly. You don't want a sq with a trap on his foot falling down a wall cavity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bill R wrote: Academic now as we finally got them out - assuming the wire mesh holds and a full assault down the chimney is avoided. Keep a fire ready to light in the fireplace. Light it up when you hear intruders approaching. Did I say rat traps were 2/$1? That's ancient history, mouse traps cost that much now, I think rat traps are more like $2 each. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is my plan. MIL is so afraid of fire that the first time I put a single fire log in the ancient fireplace she cleared off the mantle just in case... . I have another at the ready. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Bill R wrote: Academic now as we finally got them out - assuming the wire mesh holds and a full assault down the chimney is avoided. Keep a fire ready to light in the fireplace. Light it up when you hear intruders approaching. Did I say rat traps were 2/$1? That's ancient history, mouse traps cost that much now, I think rat traps are more like $2 each. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If you have the time inclination, there are some amazing pellet guns on the market now which will put bunny stew on the menu every day. I saw a commecial where raccoons, possums. and other fairly large animals were knocked out of trees with the 1st shot. Course, you'll need to clean them - or talk someone into doing it for you - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy tailed attic destroying rodents with the good PR firm. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pay the $10 per/g for the diesel? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Like I said, I'll have to be hungrier than I am now for that to happen. I've done some hunting and a fair amount of fishing, but never been responsible for dressing what was killed except for fish when I was a kid. We always ate what was killed or caught, though. I used to fish off the keys with my FIL. Best fisherman I ever saw, and was the man came up with the idea for the fighting chair and some other stuff. He was the exclusive furniture supplier for Chris-Craft for many years. He had the fish cleaning job down to a science, and any attempt to help was just a bother. Fun to watch him, though. I think mom still has one or two Pompanette fillet knives somewhere. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g If you have the time inclination, there are some amazing pellet guns on the market now which will put bunny stew on the menu every day. I saw a commecial where raccoons, possums. and other fairly large animals were knocked out of trees with the 1st shot. Course, you'll need to clean them - or talk someone into doing it for you - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy tailed attic destroying rodents with the good PR firm. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pay the $10 per/g for the diesel? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This sounds really interesting - can you send links or more info? My current (cheap) air rifle is LOUD. . A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and make it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the silenced pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make virtually no noise, just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts does not make much noise either. My younger son picks off squirrels out at the lake because my mother does not want them in the attic etc. It is too close in to town and we are not legally permitted to discharge firearms so we keep it pretty quiet. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g This sounds really interesting - can you send links or more info? My current (cheap) air rifle is LOUD. . A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and make it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the silenced pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make virtually no noise, just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah when I picked up my Hyundai in Long Beach on Monday it was $7.90 if I don't fill it myself. The stations around the airport were like $4.30 IIRC. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:00:49 -0700 From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To those who might be renting a car! Some rental car companies are now charging $8.00 a gallon if you don't top up the tank before returning the car. Be warned! Do not turn a rental car in without topping up or having a front end deal with a defined price per gallon! Take care, Chuck Phoenix ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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CB caps are even quieter as they're subsonic. Shorts are not always subsonic. Dad buys Super Calibri brand (made in Spain) CB caps which I dispatched many a squirrel with. Quieter than slapping the gun when you fire... -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:57:09 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts does not make much noise either. My younger son picks off squirrels out at the lake because my mother does not want them in the attic etc. It is too close in to town and we are not legally permitted to discharge firearms so we keep it pretty quiet. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah thought of that but then you have to go into the neighbors garden to get the evidence without being seen and if that works all it takes is for someone to see that poor little bunny flopping around from a poor shot, I'm not that good anymore, and the jig is up. Hey Bill doesn't that little puppy of yours like rabbit? Just tell him it tastes like chicken! Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:30:36 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] MG wrote: As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in the country. A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and make it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the silenced pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make virtually no noise, just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, but isn't this all about where you get the food that you can't buy because you have to pay that $10/gal? Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:55:12 -0400 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pay the $10 per/g for the diesel? Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bill, I have a few recipes somewhere, even very old ones from a book from the 1800s. For those little critters you can use one of those 1000 or 1200fps air rifles. The little rats don't make any noise if you don't hit them right so it's a lot easier to get another shot it. Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:00:01 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mom came out yesterday and told me she was getting an awful racket out of her chimney [also covered with wire mesh], so I assume they are trying another assault on the attic. Good recipes for squirrel? A few hundred $$ later I have had it with those pests. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'll keep the rabbits. We had those very ugly faced ducks down South. I didn't mind them drinking out of our small fountain by the front door, but then they would hop in [no way they actually fit] and poop in the water and all over the walk and porch every day. Learned to despise those critters. At least the rabbits poop in the weeds and can't get their mouths through the anti-rabbit fence on the grapes. Better the devil I know ... Now those bushy-tailed rodents with the good PR firm are another story. I had to put builders cloth [?? small squared wire] over the soffit vents around the entire house to keep them out of the attic, then repaint the wood trim every place they made or tried to make a 'door' through the screen. I am no longer a fan of the vermin - except perhaps next to the mashed potatoes. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g That's what ducks are for - great bug eaters. Of course, they also like to eat most of the same veggies you do, and will think of grapes as dessert --- Maybe we could engineer a rabbit to eat bugs... BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd get a job closer to home, I'm probably paying $5000-$6000 a year just to commute now. Enlarge our garden, we've got something like 60sq/ft now. I'm intensive gardening so theres a lot less work since the garden plants crowd out the weeds. I'd start keeping rabbits for meat. You can easily keep rabbits in a small yard and grow most of their food. We're already looking to switch grocery stores. The IGA around the corner from our house is alot smaller and a little more expensive but we can walk there. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:10:37 -0400 From: Bill R lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; charset=us-ascii I'd stay home even more, weekly date with my Darling Wife would not be weekly; start a garden, though I would have a hard time working it and we have a lot of wild rabbits.nbsp; Maybe I would develop a taste for rabbit ... keep the house warmer in the Summer and cooler in the Winter, start charging my MIL more than $100/month for housing/electric/cable/internet/ maintenance ... or maybe not.nbsp; Look for part time work. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks, walk to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD out of the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of trucking. CM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd start keeping rabbits for meat. You can easily keep rabbits in a small yard and grow most of their food. They are also generally very quiet. (Unlike birds.) They only scream if something's attacking them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's $s and only every other week or 2. Tennis is cheap, balls can be purchased for $1/can and used for 3-4 hours before they don't play the same. Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:54:52 -0500, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about golf? Bob R -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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By my reckoning, we're up to about $ 8.7/g here in the UK, so not long to go . Howard Fulford Bath England 190E, 1989, 2.0 l ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Didn't you see the jokers in Deov or Cornwall selling at 1.99 pounds per litre? They dropped it back to 1.36 now. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Make that Devon On 17/06/2008, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't you see the jokers in Deov or Cornwall selling at 1.99 pounds per litre? They dropped it back to 1.36 now. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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To those who might be renting a car! Some rental car companies are now charging $8.00 a gallon if you don't top up the tank before returning the car. Be warned! Do not turn a rental car in without topping up or having a front end deal with a defined price per gallon! Take care, Chuck Phoenix ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bill, all you have to do is get a chicken and it will eat the bugs. As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in the country. Manfred Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:05:08 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Manfred - If you can do it quietly and while my granddaughter is in Alaska you are welcome to the ones around here. Next door neighbor is growing a small farm in his front yard and the rabbits love it. I fenced them away from my grapes, but now the bugs are getting them. Maybe we could engineer a rabbit to eat bugs... BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You don't think the I'm releasing them from the difficulties of living in the wild will fly? Especially if I have the grill fired up at the time. I suspect our 100# puppy would enjoy playing with a few chickens, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Bill, all you have to do is get a chicken and it will eat the bugs. As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in the country. Manfred Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:05:08 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Manfred - If you can do it quietly and while my granddaughter is in Alaska you are welcome to the ones around here. Next door neighbor is growing a small farm in his front yard and the rabbits love it. I fenced them away from my grapes, but now the bugs are getting them. Maybe we could engineer a rabbit to eat bugs... BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks, walk to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD out of the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of trucking. CM John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd stay home even more, weekly date with my Darling Wife would not be weekly; start a garden, though I would have a hard time working it and we have a lot of wild rabbits. Maybe I would develop a taste for rabbit ... keep the house warmer in the Summer and cooler in the Winter, start charging my MIL more than $100/month for housing/electric/cable/internet/ maintenance ... or maybe not. Look for part time work. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks, walk to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD out of the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of trucking. CM John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I probably wouldn't change anything, I'd just complain about it more. Ed 300E 2008/6/16 John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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E M wrote: I probably wouldn't change anything, I'd just complain about it more. Now there is an honest answer if I ever heard one! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I reiterate what I have said many times before. Most of us are old enough to remember paying a fraction of what we currently pay for fuel. If prices would just stabilize for a bit folks would get used to it. The thing that scares everyone is that the price rises almost daily. I paid $0.57 for an Imperial gallon in the late 60's. I am now paying $5.88 per Imperial Gallon. A year ago I was paying around $5.00 per gallon. Two years ago it was around $4.00 per gallon. Three years ago it was still about $4.00 per gallon. The last time it was under $3.00 per gallon was in April 2004. So, the bottom line is that I would get used to the price if it would just settle down and let me have a couple of years at this price instead of rising just about everytime I fill up. I filled at $1.329 for a liter a couple of weeks ago and the price on the sign posted out front is now $1.369. Diesel is $1.399. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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R A Bennell wrote: Most of us are old enough to remember paying a fraction of what we currently pay for fuel. In the USA, if you were driving two years ago, you can remember paying half of current prices, which are running around $4 per us gallon for regular and $$.75-5.00 for #2. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Fire all the politicians and hire some who might actually do something useful about it. Or go to DC with tar and feathers and rails and carry them out of town with a new suit. But getting there would be problematic as our entire economy would be destroyed by then. --R John Robbins wrote: Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Fire up the old diesel tractor, grow me some rapeseed, press it into canola oil and go on a road trip in my big ole comfy crewcab with the kids.Or maybe go do some wheelin' in my OM615 powered tube buggy. Mike Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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(the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:30:03 -0500, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks, walk to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD out of the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of trucking. CM John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All that labour will wear you out. Best collect a few females and have your own commune. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:30:03 -0500, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks, walk to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD out of the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of trucking. CM John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd rather collect one female and make it a family affair. As far as the wearing me out thing, I'm an ex-farmhand that is running my own roofing/home repair business during my days off from my regular 36/48hr a week night job. I also play tennis 1-2 times a week. I don't get worn out :) Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:02:35 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that labour will wear you out. Best collect a few females and have your own commune. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All them females will wear you out, one way or the other (and they all come with mothers-in-law too!). --R Luther wrote: I'd rather collect one female and make it a family affair. As far as the wearing me out thing, I'm an ex-farmhand that is running my own roofing/home repair business during my days off from my regular 36/48hr a week night job. I also play tennis 1-2 times a week. I don't get worn out :) Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:02:35 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that labour will wear you out. Best collect a few females and have your own commune. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bunch of sisters. Then you only have one mother-in-law. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g All them females will wear you out, one way or the other (and they all come with mothers-in-law too!). --R Luther wrote: I'd rather collect one female and make it a family affair. As far as the wearing me out thing, I'm an ex-farmhand that is running my own roofing/home repair business during my days off from my regular 36/48hr a week night job. I also play tennis 1-2 times a week. I don't get worn out :) Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:02:35 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that labour will wear you out. Best collect a few females and have your own commune. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You must be a whole lot younger than me. Your time will come too. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g I'd rather collect one female and make it a family affair. As far as the wearing me out thing, I'm an ex-farmhand that is running my own roofing/home repair business during my days off from my regular 36/48hr a week night job. I also play tennis 1-2 times a week. I don't get worn out :) Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:02:35 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that labour will wear you out. Best collect a few females and have your own commune. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Then, when the economy really tanks, you'll suddenly have many friends wanting to dwell with you in Lutherville. Sounds like you'll need an arsenal. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:30:03 -0500, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks, walk to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD out of the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of trucking. CM John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard. I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to work as often as possible. No way I would do that in the summer... I don't want to stink up the whole office! Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced. All trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route) would be a little more planned. I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon. Wagon + trailer would be my pickup. I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't afford to go on road-trips anyway! If nothing else the amount of cars I have insured would be limited to two. Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see my parents on the coast! Don't even want to think about going to Phoenix to see family. I'm sure flying would be just as expensive though. What would you guys do? John -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What about golf? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g I'd rather collect one female and make it a family affair. As far as the wearing me out thing, I'm an ex-farmhand that is running my own roofing/home repair business during my days off from my regular 36/48hr a week night job. I also play tennis 1-2 times a week. I don't get worn out :) Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:02:35 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that labour will wear you out. Best collect a few females and have your own commune. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was thinking that and remembering my days of all that stuff. No longer for me. Luther - enjoy your relative youth and strength while you have it. Sounds like you are. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g You must be a whole lot younger than me. Your time will come too. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g I'd rather collect one female and make it a family affair. As far as the wearing me out thing, I'm an ex-farmhand that is running my own roofing/home repair business during my days off from my regular 36/48hr a week night job. I also play tennis 1-2 times a week. I don't get worn out :) Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:02:35 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that labour will wear you out. Best collect a few females and have your own commune. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g (the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon) Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar, geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yet! On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather collect one female and make it a family affair. As far as the wearing me out thing, I'm an ex-farmhand that is running my own roofing/home repair business during my days off from my regular 36/48hr a week night job. I also play tennis 1-2 times a week. I don't get worn out :) Luther -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bill, not to worry, you won't have to get used to rabbit. It tastes just like chicken. The good thing is that with a good sized garden you can even raise domesticated rabbit which is even better, as well as chicken for the eggs as well as the meat. We do that now, except for the rabbit part. Though I do buy a rabbit every now and then. The wild ones around here are too hard to find. Manfred Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:10:37 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd stay home even more, weekly date with my Darling Wife would not be weekly; start a garden, though I would have a hard time working it and we have a lot of wild rabbits. Maybe I would develop a taste for rabbit ... keep the house warmer in the Summer and cooler in the Winter, start charging my MIL more than $100/month for housing/electric/cable/internet/ maintenance ... or maybe not. Look for part time work. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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John R. wrote: Lets just say fuel cost$10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving habits would you make? My wife and I would share a car. I would drive her to work and pick her up afterwards. We would walk to the little grocery store more often than driving to the big one. I would always rent a more fuel efficient car when I was traveling long distances for work. I would probably break down and replace my 25 year old furnace (assuming natural gas was also increasing at an alarming rate). I would walk to lunch. I would buy more stocks of companies in oil and gas. I would wash and wax my big ole Expedition, disconnect the battery, and wait for a long time till I drove it again. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi Manfred - If you can do it quietly and while my granddaughter is in Alaska you are welcome to the ones around here. Next door neighbor is growing a small farm in his front yard and the rabbits love it. I fenced them away from my grapes, but now the bugs are getting them. Maybe we could engineer a rabbit to eat bugs... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g Bill, not to worry, you won't have to get used to rabbit. It tastes just like chicken. The good thing is that with a good sized garden you can even raise domesticated rabbit which is even better, as well as chicken for the eggs as well as the meat. We do that now, except for the rabbit part. Though I do buy a rabbit every now and then. The wild ones around here are too hard to find. Manfred Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:10:37 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd stay home even more, weekly date with my Darling Wife would not be weekly; start a garden, though I would have a hard time working it and we have a lot of wild rabbits. Maybe I would develop a taste for rabbit ... keep the house warmer in the Summer and cooler in the Winter, start charging my MIL more than $100/month for housing/electric/cable/internet/ maintenance ... or maybe not. Look for part time work. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's what ducks are for - great bug eaters. Of course, they also like to eat most of the same veggies you do, and will think of grapes as dessert --- Maybe we could engineer a rabbit to eat bugs... BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
